From BIOSCI-REQUEST Mon Apr 1 01:21:57 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA08676; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:21:57 -0800 Received: from carina.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (carina.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.128.25]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA08282; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:17:47 -0800 Received: from cipfb5.biologie.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (cipfb5.biologie.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.28.3]) by carina.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA32009 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:08:58 +0200 Received: from CIPFB5/SpoolDir by cipfb5.biologie.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 1 Apr 96 10:08:25 Received: from SpoolDir by CIPFB5 (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 1 Apr 96 10:08:02 From: "Katherina Psathaki" Organization: Biologie Uni Osnabrueck To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:07:54 GMT Subject: Ecology X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Katherina Psathaki" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <346C2F2110B@cipfb5.biologie.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> My name is Katherina Psathaki and i am writing my diploma work about the dipoma work about the distribution of polychaetes the southwest Mediterrannean I have to write about the ecology of the most abundant species and I have a problem to find references about the ecology of the species. Can somebody help me to find s. th.:the species are: Malcoceros fuliginosus Aricidea fragilis mediterranea, Aricidea capensis bansei Prionispio malmgreni, Spirorbis corrugatus and Chone filicaudata. I would thank you very very much if you could help me Sincerely yours katherina Psathaki /// (o o) ---oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------------------------ Katherina Psathaki Universitaet Osnabrueck, FB 5, Spezielle Zoologie Barbarastr. 11 D-49069 Osnabrueck, Germany Tel: +49-(0)541-969-2859 Fax: +49-(0)541-969-2870 From BIOSCI-REQUEST Tue Apr 2 01:44:15 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA01989; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:44:15 -0800 Received: from epmhs.gr (gw1.epmhs.gr [143.233.1.12]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA01979; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:44:03 -0800 Received: from isosun.ariadne-t.gr by epmhs.gr with SMTP id AA25735 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:23:06 +0300 Received: from atlas.uoa.gr (atlas.uoa.ariadne-t.gr) by isosun.ariadne-t.gr (4.1/SMI-4.0-MHS-6.0) id AA24621; Tue, 2 Apr 96 11:34:11 +0300 X-Ncc-Regid: gr.ariadnet Received: from localhost by atlas.uoa.gr (8.6.4/10.1) id MAA11266; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:42:07 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:42:07 +0200 From: NIKOLAIDOU ARTEMIS Message-Id: <199604021042.MAA11266@atlas.uoa.gr> To: PSATHAKI@cipfb5.biologie.uni-osnabrueck.de, annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Re: Ecology X-Charset: ELOT_928 X-Char-Esc: 29 Hello, I think the best person to contact is Mika (Nomiki) Symboura at msim@erato.fl.ariadne-t.gr who has recently finished her Ph.D. thesis on the polychaetes of Greece. Regards, Artemis Nicolaidou From BIOSCI-REQUEST Tue Apr 2 13:53:26 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA28540; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:53:26 -0800 Received: from atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (atlantis.actrix.gen.nz [192.100.53.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA28521; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:53:12 -0800 Received: (from gread@localhost) by atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA28991 for annelida@net.bio.net; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:48:45 +1200 From: Geoffrey Read Message-Id: <199604022148.JAA28991@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Subject: Glycera (fwd) To: annelida@net.bio.net (ANNELIDA list) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:48:43 +1200 (NZST) Reply-To: gread@actrix.gen.nz X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1109 [Forwarded to ANNELIDA list from TAXACOM list for obvious reasons by GBR.] [Apologies for any duplication experienced] Craeymeersch, Johan, current ANNELIDA subscriber, writes:- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:33:00 PST Sender: Biological Systematics Discussion List From: "Craeymeersch, Johan" Subject: Glycera We are presently reidentifying all Glycera specimen we collected in the last 5 years. We use the key Brendan O'Connor published some years ago (J. of Natural History, 21, 167-189, 1987). However, at the last point (11) we are not sure what is ment. The socket for articulation of the terminal section of the composite chaetae are either deeply cleft (G. lapidum comples) or not cleft (G. mimica). However, in fig. 14 and 16 it looks like both are cleft. Has anyone used this key and is able to explain? Does anyone know whether the G. lapidum complex has been further analyzed yet? Johan Craeymeersch craeymer@nioo.nl (in the near future: craeymer@cemo.nioo.knaw.nl) Netherlands Institute of Ecology Vierstraat 28 4401 EA Yerseke From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sat Apr 6 12:42:22 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA05914; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 12:42:22 -0800 Received: from sunny.berkeley.edu (sunny-fddi.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.155.9]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA05879; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 12:42:17 -0800 Received: from [128.227.163.147] by sunny.berkeley.edu (8.7.3/1.33(with-hostname-dups)) id MAA01238; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 12:06:43 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: nicola.du.plessis@vax1.uni.durban.ac.za (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: please.reply.via.fax@or.smail.to.fax.number.or.smail.address.shown.below.thank.you Approved: moderator X-Priority: 2 (High) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:56:14 +0200 To: nicola.du.plessis@uni.durban.ac.za From: nicola.du.plessis@uni.durban.ac.za, steinlink@vax1.vax.joburg.org.za, chiu@capeto.n.ac.za, ronnie@jhgt.co.za, ellen@tci.co.za, samuels@uni.transvaal.ac.za, chen.birmingham.org.za@uni.durban.ac.za, chiu@natal.co.za, wind@rfg1.co.za, susans@uni.swaziland.ac.za, gregor@southampton.org.za, ellen@plymouth.ac.za, gfos@fresno.co.za, trens@ni.london.ac.za, jimt@uni.london.ac.za, fharile@plymouth.org.za, relson@child.co.za, nels@hall.co.za, sarap@ruv4.co.za, gspelling@earthlite.co.za (Nicola du Plessis, President of the South Africa Association of University Students and the Board of Directors of the South Africa Association of University Students) Subject: ---> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 290+ Popular USA Titles -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* and/or *auto-deleted* from the incoming queue of faxes to be read, if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. is sent more than one time 4. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 5. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 6. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. However, if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas faxes coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note that the best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New York Time). If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Nicola du Plessis. 040696-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Nicola du Plessis and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Nicola du Plessis From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sat Apr 6 21:48:46 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA21967; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 21:48:46 -0800 Received: from atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (atlantis.actrix.gen.nz [192.100.53.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA21962; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 21:48:43 -0800 Received: from gread.actrix.gen.nz (chaeto.actrix.gen.nz [202.36.204.171]) by atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA13933 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:45:56 +1200 Message-Id: <199604070545.RAA13933@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Geoff Read" To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:46:36 +0000 Subject: ANNELIDA: Web access by e-mail Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) As some ANNELIDA list members have only e-mail access, this item extracted from the net "Scout Report" of March 29 may be worth following up. I see it is available in various languages too. I know no more. GBR ============================== Network Tools: ----------------- "Dr. Bob" Rankin has recently updated "The Whole Internet... By E-Mail," a comprehensive guide for using email to access all types of Internet sites. The guide provides examples of email access to information available on FTP, Gopher, WWW, Usenet, WAIS, Listserv, Finger, and "Directory Assistance" (Whois and Netfind) sites. If a user lacks full Internet connectivity but wishes to take advantage of the complete array of Internet resources, this guide is for them. It also provides instructions for accessing several miscellaneous Internet information sources via email, including dictionary lookup, sending a fax, sources of U.S. government information, Internet patent news service, currency conversion, virus protection software, and Internet Service Providers by area code. "The Whole Internet...By E-Mail" has been translated into over 25 languages. Foreign language access instructions are in the guide. http://www1.mhv.net/~bobrankin/inetbook.txt http://www.vip.at/cfeichtner/InternetByEmail.htm >From the Scout Toolkit: http://rs.internic.net/scout/toolkit/3d7.html Via email from the North or South America: Send email to: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu In the body of the message type: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email >From Europe, Asia, Africa, or Australia: Send e-mail to: mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk In the body of the message type: send lis-iis e-access-inet.txt ====================================== -- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/chaeto/index.html From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sun Apr 7 22:07:37 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA10337; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 22:07:37 -0700 Received: from atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (atlantis.actrix.gen.nz [192.100.53.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA10330; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 22:07:31 -0700 Received: (from gread@localhost) by atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA06216 for annelida@net.bio.net; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:04:40 +1200 From: Geoffrey Read Message-Id: <199604080504.RAA06216@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Subject: anesthetizing earthworms (fwd) To: annelida@net.bio.net (ANNELIDA list) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:04:38 +1200 (NZST) Reply-To: leotta@trib.com Reply-To: gread@actrix.gen.nz X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 584 Web page mail forwarded to ANNELIDA. Reply set to Sandy Leotta writes:- Date: Sun, 07 Apr 96 18:23:25 0700 From: Sandy Leotta To: gread@actrix.gen.nz Subject: (no subject) X-URL: http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/chaeto/index.html Does anyone have suggestions for anesthetizing earthworms before dissecting? My biology classes put the worms in alcohol for 90 seconds before dissection and are able to see hearts beating and peristalsis occurring. Any research on pain perception of earthworms, or better ways to anesthetize the worms? Thanks From BIOSCI-REQUEST Mon Apr 8 01:23:53 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA24211; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 01:23:53 -0700 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA24208; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 01:23:50 -0700 From: JohnChen00@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA10315; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:43:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:43:34 -0400 Message-ID: <960408034333_266462790@mail02.mail.aol.com> Subject: Interesting Free Offer........ Apparently-To: --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Interesting Free Offer........ Date: 96-04-08 02:45:01 EDT From: JohnChen00 To: announcement.service@r1.f62.n8669.z303.fidonet.org -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* and/or *auto-deleted* from the incoming queue of faxes to be read, if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. is sent more than one time 4. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 5. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 6. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. However, if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas faxes coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note that the best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New York Time). If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: John Chen. 040896-l-ifo Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is John Chen and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, John Chen From BIOSCI-REQUEST Mon Apr 8 07:53:08 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA03975; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 07:53:08 -0700 Received: from rsoft.rsoft.bc.ca (mindlink.net [204.174.16.1]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA03970; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 07:53:03 -0700 Received: from Steve's System by rsoft.rsoft.bc.ca with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0u6IGa-00001HC; Mon, 8 Apr 96 07:50 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 07:50 PDT X-Sender: evs_consultants@mindlink.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: annelida@net.bio.net From: EVS Consultants Subject: Repeated "Free Offer" Is there any way to stop the influx of free magazine offers that have been flooding this (and other) discussion groups? Our company has no interest in the offer, and resent paying internet time to download the same thing repeatedly. ------------------------------------------------------------ EVS Environment Consultants 195 Pemberton Ave. North Vancouver, B.C., Canada V7P 2R4 evs_consultants@mindlink.bc.ca ------------------------------------------------------------ From BIOSCI-REQUEST Mon Apr 8 11:00:40 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA25655; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:00:40 -0700 Received: from blackhole.mus-nature.ca (mus-nature.ca [198.53.203.3]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA25648; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:00:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by blackhole.mus-nature.ca (8.6.5/8.6.6) id OAA17669; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:26:39 -0400 Received: from unknown(172.16.100.2) by internet.mus-nature.ca via smap (V1.3) id sma017665; Mon Apr 8 14:26:18 1996 Received: from smtpgate by cmnsco.mus-nature.ca id aa18802; 8 Apr 96 13:52 EDT Received: by smtpgate.mus-nature.ca with Microsoft Mail id <31696F0D@smtpgate.mus-nature.ca>; Mon, 08 Apr 96 12:54:53 PDT From: "Fournier, Judith" To: "'Sandy Leotta '" Cc: Annelida Group Subject: Anesthetizing earthworms Date: Mon, 08 Apr 96 12:53:00 PDT Message-ID: <31696F0D@smtpgate.mus-nature.ca> Encoding: 20 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >Does anyone have suggestions for anesthetizing earthworms before >dissecting? My biology classes put the worms in alcohol for 90 seconds >before dissection and are able to see hearts beating and peristalsis >occurring. Any research on pain perception of earthworms, or better >ways to anesthetize the worms? Thanks Hello Sandy, Thank you for your humane request. I do believe that earthworms do feel pain. Ninety seconds in alcohol is not enough for proper relaxation. Using alcohol, it is best to add the relaxant a few drops or crystals at a time until the worm no longer responds to stimulus. It takes about 10 minutes but is much better. An alternative to alcohol (highly flammable), is to use Manganese sulfate, in a 25% saturated solution. It can take longer and may not be as good as the alcohol drop method. Judy Fournier Annelids Collection Canadian Museum of Nature From BIOSCI-REQUEST Mon Apr 8 16:52:13 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA07021; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:52:13 -0700 Received: from storm.greta.cri.nz (storm.greta.cri.nz [131.203.56.10]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA06995; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:51:33 -0700 Received: from read.greta.niwa.cri.nz ([131.203.56.134]) by storm.greta.cri.nz (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA08178 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:47:20 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199604082347.LAA08178@storm.greta.cri.nz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Geoff Read" Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:50:35 +0000 Subject: ANNELIDA Admin: Re: Repeated "Free Offer" etc Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) EVS Environment Consultants wrote: > Is there any way to stop the influx of free magazine offers that have been > flooding this (and other) discussion groups? Our company has no interest in > the offer, and resent paying internet time to download the same thing > repeatedly. In short no. It is a consequence of having an unmoderated list that the unscrupulous will abuse it. I believe that, while momentarily irritating, it is not YET bad enough to cause loss of membership (one or two spams a week are easy enough to delete unread aren't they? And for most of us it is only a few cents cost if anything). The magazine spammer is very cunning (almost all those messages come from ONE person, Kevin someone (K. Lipsitz I think from memory) using forged e-mail addresses). He is just about fireproof by the way -- there is no way of stopping him permanently though people have tried. Ignore him is best for most of us. Another way of reducing junk-mail impact is by increasing the activity on the list - more discussion when relevant issues arrive that can be discussed. Send your replies to ANNELIDA and not just to the original poster. Over to you. ( However, this current topic is an exception :-). Please reply to me personally on list admin problems or to :-)). If enough ANNELIDA subscribers request it this list can be made into a moderated list. I don't want to go down that path if I can possibly avoid it (more work for someone, probably me, and loss of freedom from "censorship" for everybody. This issue will also be discussed probably in May when ANNELIDA is due to be voted on as a proposed UseNet newsgroup. A moderator for the entry of UseNet postings is highly likely to be recommended by me. On another minor admin topic: List subscription problems when subscribers change e-mail address. The hassle-free way to do it is to unsubscribe before your address changes and then subscribe again from your new address. Happy annelidaning, Geoff Read in "discussion leader" mode, [ANNELIDA server address = biosci-server@net.bio.net (unsubscribes) ] [Discussion group address = annelida@net.bio.net (talk to all members)] -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources => http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/chaeto/index.html From BIOSCI-REQUEST Mon Apr 8 23:18:52 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA19128; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:18:52 -0700 Received: from atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (atlantis.actrix.gen.nz [192.100.53.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA19119; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:18:45 -0700 Received: from gread.actrix.gen.nz (chaeto.actrix.gen.nz [202.36.204.171]) by atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA25459 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:15:55 +1200 Message-Id: <199604090615.SAA25459@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Geoff Read" To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:16:27 +0000 Subject: Sabellid "parasite" on abalone (fwd) Reply-to: c_culver@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu (Carrie Culver), annelida@net.bio.net Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) I believe one or two Annelida subscribers in Californian may know more about this one? Please what species is it firstly? GBR. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sun, 7 Apr 96 13:07:56 PDT To: gread@actrix.gen.nz From: c_culver@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu (Carrie Culver) Subject: Re: Sabellid "parasite" Hi - Thank you for the information on subscribing to the annelid listserver. The sabellid polychaete I am working with is an introduced species, native to South Africa. In California it was originally found only in California abalone aquaculture facilities, but apparently now it looks like it may be "getting out" into the environment. The sabellid is quite crafty in that it settles on the margin of the growing edge of molluscs which elicits a response by the host to cover it with nacreous shell thus forming a tube (its home). We have attempted to eradicate the adult worms from the shell with no success; either there was no effect from the treatment or the ab was negatively impacted first. The only treatment for the adults appears to be covering the shell with wax (or other nontoxic paints) which effectively closes off the tubes and suffocates the worms. This, although somewhat effective, is very labor intensive and thus something abalone growers are hesitant to do. We did examine potential biocontrols with no success, although this was prior to learning the sabellid was not native to California. I am curious if anyone knows of any substance or technique that can be used to control these worms; either the adult or the larvae. The larvae is benthic and thus is exposed for a short time. Any ideas/thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. Carrie Culver ************************************************************************* * Carrie Culver E-Mail c_culver@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu * * Department of Biology * University of California * Santa Barbara, CA 93106 **************************************************************************** From BIOSCI-REQUEST Tue Apr 9 00:47:40 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA27936; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:47:40 -0700 Received: from sbr.sb-roscoff.fr (sbr.sb-roscoff.fr [193.52.39.100]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA27908; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:47:30 -0700 Received: from [193.52.39.191] (mac1-ecophy.sb-roscoff.fr [193.52.39.191]) by sbr.sb-roscoff.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA00246 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:46:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:46:43 +0200 X-Sender: lallier@sbr.sb-roscoff.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 To: annelida@net.bio.net From: lallier@sb-roscoff.fr (Francois H. Lallier) Subject: Re: Repeated "Free Offer" >Is there any way to stop the influx of free magazine offers that have been >flooding this (and other) discussion groups? Our company has no interest in >the offer, and resent paying internet time to download the same thing >repeatedly. > I totally agree, and if this continues it may be a good reason to unsuscribe. There's enough "serious" messages to read without receiving junk e-mail. Francois Lallier +--------------------------------------------------+ | ~~ E C O P H Y S I O L O G I E ~~ |+ | STATION BIOLOGIQUE BP74 TEL (33) 98 29 23 11 || |29682 ROSCOFF CEDEX FRANCE FAX (33) 98 29 23 24 || +--------------------------------------------------+| +--------------------------------------------------+ From BIOSCI-REQUEST Tue Apr 9 05:27:51 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA19710; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 05:27:51 -0700 Received: from ic.si.edu (ic.si.edu [160.111.2.92]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA19707; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 05:27:47 -0700 Received: from SIWP01-Message_Server by ic.si.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Apr 1996 08:25:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 08:24:15 -0400 From: Kristian Fauchald To: gread@actrix.gen.nz, c_culver@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu, annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Sabellid "parasite" on abalone (fwd) -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline It sounds very much like the worm Kirk Fitzhugh at the Los Angeles County Museum described at the last ASZ meeting; I would suggest getting in contact with him Kristian Fauchald NHB MRC 163 Smithsonian Institution Washington, DC 20560 USA Tel. (202)357-4757; FAX (202)357-3043 e-mail MNH.FAUCHALD@IC.SI.EDU From BIOSCI-REQUEST Tue Apr 9 10:27:34 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA29074; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:27:34 -0700 Received: from mizar.usc.edu (root@mizar.usc.edu [128.125.253.137]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA29069; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:27:29 -0700 Received: from lyell.lam.mus.ca.us ([204.140.246.65]) by mizar.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id KAA15674 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199604091724.KAA15674@mizar.usc.edu> X-Sender: fitzhugh@bcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Kirk Fitzhugh Subject: Re: Sabellid "parasite" on abalone (fwd) Worm Workers: The sabellid Carrie Culver referred to is a new genus and species, which is being described by Greg Rouse (University of Sydney) and myself. Carrie has been concentrating on possible erradication measures under aquaculture conditions, as well as conducting some very nice experiments to determine aspects of the species' population dynamics. The species was introduced from South Africa, apparently via the abalone Haliotis midae. At this point, the worm has been found in aquaculture facilities along Southern California, but there is no evidence that I'm aware of that it has become established outside of these conditions. I will be going to South Africa later this year to collect specimens, and determine the extent of occurrence on other mollusc taxa. Systematically, the worm is a fairly apomorphic member of the Sabellinae, and appears to be a sister group to Amphiglena. It has thoracic and abdominal uncini unlike those seen in any other sabellid. For instance, uncini on setigers 2-6 are acicular, whereas on setigers 7-8 they are avicular, with a dentition more similar to that seen in serpulid uncini. Overall, specimens resemble Caobangia in that the overall body shape is sac-like. Adults are about 3 mm long, with only two pairs of radioles, and 8 and 3 thoracic and abdominal setigers, respectively. The species is a simultaneous hermaphrodite and broods lecithotrophic larvae. Unlike other brooding sabellids, early (nonfeeding) juveniles are released prior to the development of the branchial crown, which facilitates the unique settling behavior the juvenile exhibits, consequently being covered over by shell material by the host abalone. For native abalone under culture conditions, high worm infestations cause the abalone to produce abnormal shells and reduced growth. Burrows can be very numerous, likely compromising shell integrity. It will be interesting to see if the worm becomes established in California waters, and the impact it will have on other native gastropods. Sincerely, Kirk Fitzhugh --------------------------------------------- Kirk Fitzhugh Associate Curator of Polychaetes Research & Collections Branch Los Angeles County Museum of Natural History 900 Exposition Blvd Los Angeles CA 90007 Phone: (213) 744-3233 FAX: (213) 746-2999 e-mail: fitzhugh@bcf.usc.edu --------------------------------------------- From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed Apr 10 04:00:24 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA16261; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 04:00:24 -0700 Received: from atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (atlantis.actrix.gen.nz [192.100.53.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16251; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 04:00:14 -0700 Received: from gread.actrix.gen.nz (chaeto.actrix.gen.nz [202.36.204.171]) by atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA22656 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:57:23 +1200 Message-Id: <199604101057.WAA22656@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Geoff Read" To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:57:59 +0000 Subject: ANNELIDA admin: for junk-mail worriers only! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Please respond to me rather than the list if you have any comments or suggestions. I wouldn't like the list discussion to be diverted onto this. A post to UseNet group news.admin.net-abuse.misc indicates that the account from which Kevin Jay Lipsitz's latest magazine advert was posted has been terminated. He has control of his own internet domain so that will be just a temporary inconvenience for him. His true addresses are known but it is NOT advisable to complain to him via e-mail due to his likely retaliation. For those who need to learn more about Kevin and the fight against his and other's spams the following URLs will help. The second URL has most on Kevin. http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/BL/blacklist.html. http://www.iac.co.jp/~issho/stop-spam.html -- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/chaeto/index.html From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed Apr 10 12:07:11 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA15218; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:07:11 -0700 Received: from login1.email.unc.edu (ecruzriv@login1.email.unc.edu [152.2.25.15]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA15156; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:07:04 -0700 Received: (from ecruzriv@localhost) by login1.email.unc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA238698; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:04:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:04:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Edwin Cruz-rivera To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Procaerea fasciata Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear people, The syllid Procaerea fasciata isvery common on one species of hydroid along the coats of Morehead City, North Carolina. I have also abserved it on a different species of hydroid down in the Bahamas. Additionally, I have collected it from a local sponge on occasion. Although I have seen a few refernces about its habits, I have not found any detailed work on its ecology. Am I just looking in the wrong places? Has anyone worked on this animal enough as to give me an indication of whether this association with hydroids has any pattern or significance? Edwin Cruz-Rivera Ph (919) 726-6841 Institute of Marine Sciences Fax (919) 726-2426 University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill email: ecruzriv@email.unc.edu 3431 Arendell Street Morehead City, NC 28557 From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed Apr 10 12:36:03 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA19176; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:36:03 -0700 Received: from ic.si.edu (ic.si.edu [160.111.2.92]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA19172; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:36:00 -0700 Received: from SIWP01-Message_Server by ic.si.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:34:35 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:32:31 -0400 From: Kristian Fauchald To: ecruzriv@email.unc.edu, annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Procaerea fasciata -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I am not sure whether any detailed information is available, but the person that follow syllids, perhaps more than any other, would be Guillermo San Martin in Madrid Spain From BIOSCI-REQUEST Fri Apr 12 11:59:36 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA01348; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:00:29 -0700 Received: (from biohelp@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA01311; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:00:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:00:23 -0700 From: BIOSCI Administrator Message-Id: <199604120900.CAA01311@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: IMPORTANT - BIOSCI Fundraising Update! I'm interrupting the usual monthly posting of the BIOSCI miniFAQ to bring you up to date on BIOSCI fundraising progress, a topic of concern to your future use of this resource. Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this message carefully. Last year we announced that BIOSCI was going to adopt the U.S. Public Broadcasting System model to fund its operations after our DOE/NSF grant runs out later this year. Unlike PBS, we are not soliciting contributions from users; we are only selling ads on our Web pages solely to cover our operating costs. Our goal is to seek sponsorships until we build up an operating reserve of about $100,000 and then cease further promotions until we need to build the reserve back up. (The accountants among our readership will be familiar with the problem of deferred revenue which we can not safely utilize until ads have been displayed for a period of time.) We have three sponsors to date with a couple more pending. The process is time-consuming, however, and we need your help as explained further below. Our operating costs consist of our network connection, phone lines, hardware maintenance (we hope to have new and faster hardware soon!), plus 0.7 FTE of salaries covering UNIX systems admin, technical support, quality assurance, i.e., testing, of our system, and administrative costs (such as the time it takes to actually find/write/call potential sponsors and raise money!). Although the BIOSCI staff does get compensated for a portion of the work that they do, this project has always received a lot of free after-hours and "vacation" time labor, so we hope that no one will begrudge the time that we do charge to the project to serve you. All of the three part-time staff members, Dave Mack, Julie Lawrence, and myself, have full time day jobs and families in addition to working hard to keep this service running for all of you. Julie and Dave Mack are subcontractors for BIOSCI; my time that is charged to the project defrays a portion of my regular salary instead of adding to my income. Besides having to relocate the project, we were very busy this last year building new infrastructure such as our WWW hypermail interface to the system. This was released last December along with scores of WAIS indices for the newsgroups. Virtually everything is complete, although we do continue to find and fix bugs (many through your helpful feedback!). We are still having some problems with our WAIS indexing. The archives continue to grow rapidly. We are running over 100 indexes now versus three previously and any systems crashes cause greater havoc with the indexing than before! We are still working to fix this as fast as our resources permit and appreciate your patience, but we have been able to automate a lot of the infrastructure to reduce labor as compared to past requirements. We have also implemented new software to make moderation of BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups much easier and combat the growing problem of Internet junk mail and USENET "spamming." About 20% of our groups are now moderated, many of them by the BIOSCI staff! This, for example, made a major difference last year in the quality of content in our EMPLOYMENT/bionet.jobs.offered newsgroup which many commercial concerns and recruiting firms are using **without charge** to recruit candidates for positions in the biological sciences. We are also now in a position to have sponsors for individual newsgroups as you will have noticed if you have visited http://www.bio.net/ and clicked on "Access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups" recently. So, how can you help?? ---------------------- As noted above it can take a lot of time to contact potential sponsors if I have to do it all myself. Our request is quite simple. You can do two important things which will take very little time for you individually. First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the archives. You can now post or reply to messages via your Web browser. Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term. Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass this message on to your marketing or marketing communications department or other appropriate group. Please ask them to help support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are interested, they can then contact us for further information at our tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net. Our hope is to quickly raise several large corporate/institutional sponsors on our heavily-used WWW locations (some stats appended below), and then end this sponsorship campaign so that our resources can continue to be used for service provision, not fundraising. Many of our specialty newsgroup WWW archives are still used by small communities of scientists (and they haven't been heavily promoted yet). While these may be valuable niche markets to some advertisers, it will generate more labor and overhead having to find these sponsors, fairly price the locations, and deal with lots of smaller sponsorships than fewer mid-to large sponsors. We are striving to keep our operation as lean and efficient as possible since we are not trying to make careers out of running BIOSCI. We are trying if at all possible to avoid the administrative overhead entailed with processing lots of small payments to reach our fundraising goals. I'd like to thank all of you for your help in advance. In helping us, you are also helping yourselves, not only in keeping this resource available for all of the both large and small research communities that we serve, but also by alleviating the need for us to go back and compete with researchers for tight grant dollars! We promised NSF when we were awarded the BIOSCI grant that we would carry out this mission to make the service self-supporting. With your help, we will succeed in continuing BIOSCI's work into its second decade. Thank you very much! Sincerely, Dave Kristofferson BIOSCI/bionet Manager biosci-help@net.bio.net A list of our prime WWW sponsorship locations follow. Statistics are for the four week period from 22 Jan. - 18 Feb. 1996 and usage continues to grow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The overall BIOSCI WWW pages are currently visited by users from close to 5000 unique computer hosts per week. Web servers only log the Internet computer/host name and frequently more than one individual can connect to us from a particular host. Main home page, http://www.bio.net, visited recently by about 2100 unique hosts per week Main Newsgroups archives page, http://www.bio.net/archives.html, visited recently by about 1200 Unique hosts per week BIO-JOURNALS archive page, http://www.bio.net/BIO-JOURNALS.html, visited recently by about 1000 unique hosts per week. EMPLOYMENT archive pages: http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/EMPLOYMENT/ and monthly header pages, visited recently by about 600 unique hosts per week. Address database search page, http://www.bio.net/addrsearch.html, visited recently by about 450 unique hosts per week. Methods newsgroup archive pages, http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/METHDS- REAGNTS/ and monthly header pages, visited recently by about 350 unique hosts per week. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sun Apr 14 23:22:03 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA22915; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 23:22:03 -0700 Received: from sme.univ-mrs.fr (sme.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.16.1]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA22910; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 23:21:59 -0700 Received: from [139.124.16.21] (smepc11.univ-mrs.fr) by sme.univ-mrs.fr with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA237619114; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:18:34 +0200 From: "Helmut Zibrowius" Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 07:13:44 MST Message-Id: <1137.hzibrowi@[139.124.16.1]_POPMail/PC_3.2.2> Reply-To: X-Popmail-Charset: IBM 8-Bit To: JFOURNIER@mus-nature.ca, leotta@trib.com, annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Re: earthworms' pain On Mon, 08 Apr 96 12:53:00 PDT, Fournier, Judith wrote: > Thank you for your humane request. I do believe that earthworms do >feel pain.... And think of the poor mad or potentially mad cows, some millions to be slaughtered hastily in near future! Preferably let's forget the humans. ----------------------------------- Helmut ZIBROWIUS (Centre d'Oceanologie de Marseille) Station Marine d'Endoume Rue Batterie des Lions 13007 Marseille / France TEL: (intern. - 33) 9 1 0 4 1 6 2 4 FAX: (intern. - 33) 9 1 0 4 1 6 3 5 E-MAIL: ----------------------------------- From BIOSCI-REQUEST Mon Apr 15 08:45:26 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA17387; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:45:26 -0700 Received: from ccr.dsi.uanl.mx (ccr.dsi.uanl.mx [148.234.15.4]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA17303; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:45:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:45:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199604151545.IAA17303@net.bio.net> Received: from ccr.dsi.uanl.mx (ts09.dsi.uanl.mx) by ccr.dsi.uanl.mx (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:42:06 CST6 X-Sender: jadeleon@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: annelida@net.bio.net From: angel de leon Subject: anesthetizing earthworms Dear Sandy, Just I return from my spring vacations, and I found your message about anesthetizing earthworms. In my class we put big earthworms (150-200 mm)wrap in blotting paper, but the worm must be stright. When the specimens are ready they are placed inside a hermetic cristal box, and are put a cotton damp with chloroform, for not less than 10 minutes. The specimens may be are dead in that time, and the study of the inner organs are ready. Angel de Leon Lab. Zoologia de Invertebrados Fac. Ciencias Biologicas, U.A.N.L. Ap. Postal 5, Suc."F" San Nicolas de los Garza, N.L. 66451 MEXICO e-mail: jadeleon@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed Apr 17 01:39:36 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA28271; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:39:36 -0700 Received: from sme.univ-mrs.fr (sme.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.16.1]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA28266; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:39:26 -0700 Received: from [139.124.16.43] (smemac13.univ-mrs.fr) by sme.univ-mrs.fr with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA029130177; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:36:17 +0200 X-Sender: gbellan@sme.univ-mrs.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.1 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:37:25 +0100 To: annelida@net.bio.net From: gbellan@com.univ-mrs.fr ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard?= Bellan) Subject: Nereis speciation Dear Annelidians, Help! Is some one could send me the Weinberg new adress? I'm unable to locate him! Thank you so much! Gerard Dr. Gerard BELLAN Centre d'Oceanologie de Marseille UMR CNRS DIMAR Station marine d'Endoume Rue Batterie des Lions 13007 MARSEILLE France tel.: (33) 91 04 16 12 Fax.: (33) 91 04 16 35 From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed Apr 17 06:59:10 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA00811; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 06:59:10 -0700 Received: from UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU (univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu [129.252.41.4]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA00801; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 06:59:02 -0700 Received: from biolgate.biol.sc.edu by UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 17 Apr 96 09:57:13 EDT Received: From CLS/WORKQUEUE1 by biolgate.biol.sc.edu via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.960417095550.480; 17 Apr 96 09:55:15 +500 Message-ID: From: "Sara Lindsay" To: gbellan@com.univ-mrs.fr ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard?= Bellan), annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:55:37 EST Subject: Re: Nereis speciation Priority: normal X-mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) If it is Jim Weinberg you seek, he may be found at: James R. Weinberg, NMFS, 166 Water St., Woods Hole, MA, 02543, USA Cheers, Sara Lindsay On Wed., April 17, 1996, Gerard Bellan wrote: >Dear Annelidians, > Help! >Is some one could send me the Weinberg new adress? >I'm unable to locate him! >Thank you so much! >Gerard >Dr. Gerard BELLAN ************************* Sara M. Lindsay, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Sciences University of South Carolina Columbia, S.C. 29208 Phone (803) 777-9621 FAX (803) 777-4002 From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed Apr 17 08:07:03 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA09990; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 08:07:03 -0700 Received: from sme.univ-mrs.fr (sme.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.16.1]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09901; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 08:06:50 -0700 Received: from [139.124.16.43] (smemac13.univ-mrs.fr) by sme.univ-mrs.fr with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA053593345; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:02:25 +0200 X-Sender: gbellan@sme.univ-mrs.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.1 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:03:29 +0100 To: annelida@net.bio.net From: gbellan@com.univ-mrs.fr ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard?= Bellan) Subject: RE : Nereis speciation Dear Annelidians, I just realize I forgot to give the full name of Weinberg (as the Man of Nereis speciation): JAMES R. Weinberg! Mille excuses, please Sara Lindsay send me an adress in Woods Holes: >James R. Weinberg, NMFS, 166 Water St., Woods Hole, MA, 02543, USA Is Jim has a Fax opr e-mail? Nevertheless, I am able, yet, to use a pen and a paper! Gerard From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed Apr 17 15:32:57 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA14173; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 04:36:53 -0700 Received: from wep.uminho.pt (wep.uminho.pt [193.136.9.122]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA14165; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 04:36:43 -0700 From: biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt Received: from nunes.uminho.pt by wep.uminho.pt with SMTP (PP) id <02609-0@wep.uminho.pt>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:32:44 +0100 Received: by nunes.uminho.pt (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA09560; Wed, 17 Apr 96 12:32:34 +0100 Received: by dragoeiro.uma.pt (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA16763; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:31:32 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:31:32 GMT Message-Id: <9604171231.AA16763@dragoeiro.uma.pt> To: annelida@net.bio.net, gbellan@com.univ-mrs.fr ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard?= Bellan) Subject: Re: Nereis speciation If it is Stthe address of Steven Weinberg you are looking for, try fax 00352-348849, rue de la montagne correction: 13, rue de la montagne L - 6962 Senningen Luxembourg. Soory about the typing mistakes. In this program, I cannot go backwards to make changes. Best EWishes, Peter Wirtz From BIOSCI-REQUEST Thu Apr 18 07:59:24 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA01636; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 07:59:24 -0700 Received: from nms.rz.uni-kiel.de (nms.rz.uni-kiel.de [134.245.10.2]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA01614; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 07:58:35 -0700 Received: from piggy.sfb313.uni-kiel.de by nms.rz.uni-kiel.de with SMTP (PP) id <15012-0@nms.rz.uni-kiel.de>; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:56:02 +0200 Received: by piggy.sfb313.uni-kiel.d400.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17309; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:51:40 +0100 From: ks@sfb313.uni-kiel.d400.de (Klaus Schnack) Message-Id: <9604181551.AA17309@piggy.sfb313.uni-kiel.d400.de> Subject: searching length/width/weight data To: annelida@net.bio.net (Annelida Listserver) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 16:51:40 NFT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL2] Dear colleagues, I am working on Polychaetes from the eastern Greenland shelf region. For a community analysis we want to get biomass estimations as good as possible. Unfortunately, due to harsh conditions during sieving, most specimens are broken. So we will try to estimate the 'true' biomass with the help of empirically derived relationships between body measurements and weight. But our material seems to be too incomplete for this purpose. So we are looking for data on width/length/weight relationships of Polychaetes - species, families or 'shape'. Does anybody have hints on literature, own measurements to share or tips where to find data about it? Every input will be appreciated very much. Thanks Klaus Schnack ,,, (o o) ----------------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------------- Klaus Schnack ks@sfb313.uni-kiel.de ---------------------------------------------------------- From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed Apr 24 22:21:34 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA15312; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 06:42:20 -0700 Received: from carpa.ciagri.usp.br (agphilst@carpa.ciagri.usp.br [143.107.209.25]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA15309; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 06:42:15 -0700 Received: (from agphilst@localhost) by carpa.ciagri.usp.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA25021; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:35:29 -0300 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:35:29 -0300 (BSB) From: "Antonio G.P. Hilst" To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Earthworm fatty acid Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HELP!!! Does you know about eicosapentaenoic acid extraction from earthworm? I have heard that someone at Technical University of Budapest is working on this. I tried their home page (http://www.bme.hu) to no avail. Thank you. A. Hilst From BIOSCI-REQUEST Fri Apr 26 19:56:59 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA04177; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 19:56:59 -0700 Received: from mserv.rug.ac.be (mserv.rug.ac.be [157.193.40.37]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA04155; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 19:56:51 -0700 Received: from eduserv.rug.ac.be by mserv.rug.ac.be with SMTP id AA25282 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 26 Apr 1996 16:10:02 +0200 Received: by eduserv.rug.ac.be (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25829; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 16:09:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 16:09:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Adrenalized Megadeth To: Annelida Listserver Subject: Re: searching length/width/weight data In-Reply-To: <9604181551.AA17309@piggy.sfb313.uni-kiel.d400.de> Message-Id: Organization: Dobol Private Net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Klaus Schnack wrote: > So we are looking for data on width/length/weight relationships of > Polychaetes - species, families or 'shape'. When I worked with _Nereis diversicolor_ long time ago, I found the width-weight relation to be more accurate than length-weight, probably because the width of polychaetes didn't expand as much as the length. Cautions should be taken when using regression equation from other areas, or even from other season. Therefore I suggest taking extra samples from your own site just to make this relationship. Something like 100 individuals, depending on the size-range, should suffice. If your size-range is wide, I propose to divide the relation into two, one for the small individuals, and another one for the bigger ones. ranan samanya Internet ranan.samanya@rug.ac.be FIDONet 2:292/880.5 http://studwww.rug.ac.be/~rsamanya Team OS/2 From BIOSCI-REQUEST Fri Apr 26 20:09:50 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA06337; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 20:09:50 -0700 Received: from mailgate1.uea.ac.uk (mailgate1.uea.ac.uk [139.222.230.1]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA06326; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 20:09:44 -0700 Received: from cpca6.uea.ac.uk by mailgate1.uea.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:06:25 +0100 Received: from cpca5.uea.ac.uk by cpca6.uea.ac.uk; (5.65/1.1.8.2/29Jun95-0305PM) id AA21580; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:06:21 +0100 Received: by cpca5.uea.ac.uk; (5.65/1.1.8.2/28Mar95-1216PM) id AA22151; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:06:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:06:18 +0100 (BST) From: "V.Degas" X-Sender: u9539085@cpca5.uea.ac.uk To: annelida@net.bio.net Cc: ICZN-4@CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU, C.Delpancq@uea.ac.uk, P.Nahoum@uea.ac.uk, F.Boulange@uea.ac.uk, F.Kind@uea.ac.uk, S.Herault@uea.ac.uk Subject: human condition In-Reply-To: <199604260905.KAA15583@sirius.lns.ed.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > "Just yesterday B'nai B'rith's annual report (Canada) on hate and > racism located the net as the one source of exploding and > uncontrollable dissemination of hate mail.I feel strongly that every >> NO vote on the formation of a neo-Nazi newsgroup is a public and >> civilized blow against a pernicious, evil movement. >Please vote to >> affirm society's rejection of neo-Nazis. Please distribute the > >> following message as you deem appropriate. >> > >> A group of neo-nazis are trying to form a newsgroup on Usenet called > >> rec.music.white-power, so that they can get their message of hate out > >> to young people using the Internet. Newsgroups are public discussion > >> areas on the Internet and their formation requires enough support > from > >> the Internet community. > >> > >> >>Do not vote twice - that would constitute voting fraud. > >> >>HOW TO VOTE: > >> >> > >> >>Send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: > >> >> music-vote@sub-rosa.com > >> > >> >>Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may > >> >>mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an > >> >>acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker > >> >>about the problem. 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If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Sally Ann Ellison. 042796-l-ifo Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Sally Ann Ellison and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Sally Ann Ellison From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sat Apr 27 11:50:12 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA21810; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 11:50:12 -0700 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA21807; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 11:50:08 -0700 From: SElli97635@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA23618; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:03:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:03:46 -0400 Message-ID: <960427140345_282090613@emout07.mail.aol.com> Subject: Fwd: Interesting Free Offer........ Apparently-To: --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Interesting Free Offer........ Date: 96-04-27 13:08:08 EDT From: SElli97635 To: SElli97635 To: internet.announcement.service@r1.f64.n8769.z303.fidonet.org -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* and/or *auto-deleted* from the incoming queue of faxes to be read, if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. is sent more than one time 4. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 5. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 6. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. However, if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas faxes coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note that the best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New York Time). If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Sally Ann Ellison. 042796-l-ifo Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Sally Ann Ellison and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Sally Ann Ellison From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sat Apr 27 17:26:04 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA20093; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:26:04 -0700 Received: from atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (atlantis.actrix.gen.nz [192.100.53.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA20090; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:25:58 -0700 Received: from gread.actrix.gen.nz (chaeto.actrix.gen.nz [202.36.204.171]) by atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA14073 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:22:56 +1200 Message-Id: <199604280022.MAA14073@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Geoff Read" To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:23:35 +0000 Subject: Job: Molecular phylogeny of polychaetes (fwd) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Forwarded to Annelida from UseNet. The original was posted early in the month but no closing date is given. Be quick! - GBR ====================================================================== Molecular Phylogeny of Invertebrates From: a.grant@uea.ac.uk (Alastair Grant) Date: 1996/04/02 MessageID: 4jqnun$jo1@cpca3.uea.ac.uk#1/1 distribution: world organization: University of East Anglia, Norwich, UK newsgroups: bionet.jobs.offered I have on offer a one year post-doc job, using molecular methods to determine phylogenetic relationships of polychaetes and their relationships with other annelids and other metazoa. This represents the final year of a three year project, the previous post holder having left for personal reasons. Polychaetes have only a fragmentary fossil record, and their phylogenetic relationships are very poorly understood - an ideal candidate for the application of molecular methods. Our chosen sequence is 18s rDNA, using PCR followed by cycle sequencing analysed using a Pharmacia ALF. The methods are working well (from worm to complete 18s rDNA sequence in about 3 days). A preliminary paper has been submitted, and the final year should generate a substantial amount of data and result in several publications clarifying what is one of the largest gaps in invertebrate phylogeny. Further particulars can be obtained by email from J.Darch@uea.ac.uk and are displayed in the vacancies section of our WWW homepage: http://www.uea.ac.uk/menu/acad_depts/env/all/default.html Alastair Grant School of Environmental Science, University of East Anglia, Norwich, NR4 7TJ, UK From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sat Apr 27 17:47:49 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA22318; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:47:49 -0700 Received: from atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (atlantis.actrix.gen.nz [192.100.53.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA22243; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:47:38 -0700 Received: (from gread@localhost) by atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA15327 for annelida@net.bio.net; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:44:39 +1200 From: Geoffrey Read Message-Id: <199604280044.MAA15327@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Subject: Bristleworm Factsheet (fwd) To: annelida@net.bio.net (ANNELIDA list) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:44:38 +1200 (NZST) Reply-To: gread@actrix.gen.nz X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 14058 I picked this up from a Usenet aquaria group. I have not altered it. It's well-intentioned, and an entertainingly different perspective of our favourites. However, maybe I'd like to disagree with him in places. As far as I know Michael Noreen is not an Annelida subscriber. Feedback to the list please, and to Michael of course. GBR ===================================================================== Bristleworm Factsheet and FAQ. From: Michael Noreen Date: 1996/04/04 organization: MolSystLab, Naturhistoriska Riksmuseet. newsgroups: rec.aquaria.marine.reefs x-mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Here's the bristleworm FAQ I promised to write earlier. Suggestions and corrections eagerly awaited. ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Bristleworm Factsheet and Mini-FAQ v0.91 (4apr96) by Mike Noreen Contents: Introduction About the Author Various disclaimers and copyright information I. The bristleworm Factsheet 1. What is a bristleworm? 2. Sedentary bristleworms. 3. Errant bristleworms. 4. The Bad Boys. 5. The Fireworm (additions welcomed). II. The Bristleworm Frequently Asked Question. INTRODUCTION: So you've set up a reef tank, with lots of live rock, corals, fish and nice live rock. You sit back to admire your work, when a strange centipede-like creature suddenly crawls out from under a rock. What is it? Is it dangerous? Should it be killed? How? Is it Bleach-and-Boil time? Relax. The cavallery is here with some answers - I give you the Bristleworm Factsheet and Frequently Asked Questions. Everything you've ever wanted to know about bristleworms, and then some. ABOUT THE AUTHOR: At the time of writing this I'm a biology student, specializing in marine evertebrate systematics, at Stockholm University. I work at the Molecular Systematics Laboratory at the National Museum of Natural History in Stockholm, under dr Ulf Jondelius, one of the worlds foremost authorities on flatworms. Aquariums are my hobby, and I've some 20 years experience in the field, 10 years with reef tanks. Contacting the author with questions/suggestions/bug reports: email to: ev-michael@nrm.se or (preferrably) radharc@karkis.canit.se VARIOUS DISCLAIMERS AND COPYRIGHT INFORMATION: Legal stuff: This text is (c) Mike Noreen, but may be freely reproduced for non-profit purposes as long as it is not altered in any way and the authors name is not removed. Commercial use of this text (ie in publications) require the written consent of the author. Disclaimer: This text is as accurate as I could make it without getting _too_ long, but I'm only human, and there will be errors in it. I am not responsible for any actions or losses or altered mental states resulting from the reading of this text or following advice given in it. THE BRISTLEWORM FACTSHEET. 1. What is a bristleworm? The phylum Annelida (ringworms) is divided into three classes: the Oligocheta (earthworms and their allies (ie tubifex)), the Hirudinea (leeches), and the Polychaeta (bristleworms). By far the biggest class is the polychaetes, with over 8000 species in atleast 80 families - and more species are described every year. Almost all polychaetes live in the sea, although a few also can be found in freshwater and in moist soil. They are extremely diverse, ranging in size from 1mm to in excess of two meters in length, and are abundant in all biotopes in all seas around the world. In fact, together with crustaceans their role is reminiscent of that of insects on land, forming the base of the foodweb. Several species, mainly of Errant polychaetes, are used as fishing bait (ie the sand/lugworm). >From an aquarists point of view, for purposes of identification, bristleworms can be crudely divided into Errant and Sedentary species (please note that this is not systematically correct. This division does not in any way reflect relationship, but is purely utilitarian). Sedentary bristleworms stay in one place, are typically tube-builders and feed by filtering mikroplankton with their often brightly coloured retractable tentacle crowns. Common in our tanks are for example Peacock worms pertaining to the family Sabellidae. Errant bristleworms actively move about in search of food, which may be other small vertebrates, algae, corals or almost any organic matter depending on species. Errant bristleworms usually resemble centipedes in general appearance, and have strong jaws. Bristleworms normally reproduce sexually, usually with planktonic larvae. Only about 30 out of 8000 species reproduce asexually by fission. 2. Sedentary bristleworms. These guys are common and usually welcome inhabitants in reef tanks. Roughly they can be divided into two different types: those with fan-like feeding apparatuses and those with tentacle-like feeding apparatuses (again not a systematically correct division, but useful for identification). They all feed on small organic particles and detritus, and are totally harmless to other inhabitants in the tank. They all have a burrow or tube which they withdraw into when they feel threatened. A lot of animals, evertebrates as well as fish, feed on them. Sedentary with fan-like feeding apparatus: a) Peacock worms (any species belonging to the family Sabellidae). Recognisable by their soft, leathery, tubes made of mud and mucus. Worms of this family are often sold in petshops. They require good quality water to thrive, but are not photosynthetic. They occasionally scare their owners by shedding their brightly coloured crown of tentacles - don't worry, it grows back. However, if the worm leaves its tube it's dying and should be removed (and water parameters should be checked). They sometimes reproduce in aquaria, but not so to become a problem. b) Christmas tree worms and allies (several families, ie Spirorbidae, Serpulidae). Very similar to Peacock worms, but living in limestone tubes and sometimes burrowing in limestone (the familiar Fan worms of living rock). Of particular interest are the Serpulidae and Spirorbidae families, which may have sudden population explosions in the tank. Serpulids are bigger than Spirorbids, and live in irregularly shaped tubes, while the Spirorbid tubes are small, white, tightly coiled spirals (spiral less than 1cm, often just a few mm, from side to side). They may proliferate to the point that they become a nuisance, clogging tubing and covering the glass, but usually these explosions are over as quickly as they started. Sedentary with tentacle-like feeding apparatus: Here we find a bunch of worms sometimes difficult to even identify as worms. Common in reef tanks are the Spaghetti worms and Sand Mason worms belonging to the family Terebellidae. They hide their bodies (which are quite large) in cracks in/under stones, and all that's visible are the numerous, sometimes 30cm long, narrow, transparent tentacles. The tentacles work as conveyor belts, bringing detritus to the worm on which it feeds. Other extremely common but rarely noticed worms belong to the family Spionidae. They are small, burrow in limestone (and snail shells), and all that's visible of them are two short tentacles. 3. Errant bristleworms. The real problem childs in tanks. They are ugly, move in an unnerving manner, can pack nasty poisonous bites and/or poisonous bristles, and may eat things the aquarist would not like them to eat. In general appearance they resemble centipedes (although the 'legs' are not true legs, and they are not related to centipedes), and are always present in all tanks with live rock or live sand. They are of varying colour, size and disposition, and a great number of families and even greater number of species are found in aquaria. It is very common for errant polychaetes to be opportunists - eating algae, scavenging, or killing small evertebrates as they find it. Despite their omnivorous habits the vast majority of species are totally harmless in a reef tank. A very few species may, however, cause problems. 4. The Bad Boys. Errant bristleworms cause problems in two ways: either by becoming so big that they can attack things they normally would not be able to harm (ie fish or aquarists fingers), or by being predators/parasites on valuable inhabitants in the aquarium. Bad because of size: Basically a bristleworm larger than, say, two-three inches can deliver painful bites, and conceivably kill fish, shrimp etc. Some species also have poisonous bites, and although I've never heard of anyone dying of bristleworm-bite, there's no doubt they could seriously inconvenience a sensitive person (normally a bite from a poisonous species, ie a Glycera, is comparable to the sting of a wasp). Use caution (and/or tweezers) when dealing with a large worm. Bad because it's a specialized predator/parasite: Actually very few bristleworms are parasites, and none on vertebrates, so the fish are safe (except for very large very hungry predatory worms). Some species do eat corals, and may cause problems. The most known coral-eating species is the Fireworm. 5. The Fireworm (additions welcomed): The Fireworms are a group of coral-eating worms from the Caribbean, common in shallow waters. In general appearance a fireworm is fat, fatter than an earthworm, reddish-brown, with prominent tufts of white-to-green bristles. They can multiply rapidly, and can in a short time kill all corals in a tank. They have gotten their names from having poisoned bristles, which cause skin irritation. Handle with care. Various methods have been suggested to remove Fireworms. These include: commercially sold traps, mechanical removal with tweezers, putting something tasty (ie shrimp meat) in old nylon stockings in the tank overnight. The worms become entangled in the nylon, and can be removed in the morning. If I sound somewhat vague on fireworms, that's because I've never even seen an actual fireworm. BRISTLEWORM FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS: Q: My peacock worm has left it's tube. What's happening? A: It's dying. Remove it before it rots. Its death may be a sign of poor water quality. Q: My peacock worm has lost its head! Is it dying? A: Nope. It's just shed its old worn tentacle crown. A new crown will grow back. Q: How much light does my peacock/christmas tree/fan worm require? A: None. It's a filter feeder - it's not photosynthetic. Q: How should I place my peacock/christmas tree/fan worm? A: They like moderate current. They dislike too strong current. Q: I've found this centipede-like worm in my tank - is it dangerous?! A: With 99.9% probability not, unless it's more than 2-3 inches in length OR very fat, reddish brown, with white or greenish bristles, and there's live rock from he Gulf/Caribbean in the tank. Remember: there are ALWAYS bristleworms in ALL tanks with live rock, and they're nearly always harmless. Q: I've got one/several 'bad' bristleworms in the tank - how do I kill it/them? A: Four ways: *Get a commercial bristleworm trap. Not all work well. *Pluck them out/cut them in two with tweezers. If divided in two it will NOT grow back into two worms, although the head end MAY sometimes grow a new tail. *Put something tasty, ie shrimp or mussel meat, in a nylon stocking, and place on the bottom of the tank over night. Bristleworms who try to eat the meat become entangled in the nylon, and can be disposed of in the morning. *Get a bristleworm predator, ie an Arrow crab. Problem is that they don't know that you want to keep some bristleworms, like the Peacock/Christmas tree worms, but eat all worms. Q: Why not kill the worms by boiling the live rock, or with cupper sulphate, or with fresh water, or with bleach? A: Because all of the above are guaranteed to kill the beneficial bacteria in the live rock, which is the reason one keeps live rock to begin with. You might aswell throw the live rock/sand away as try the above. Chemical control of bristleworms is basically only an option in fish-only tanks. Q: What's this hard, white, organism that's growing on the glass of the tank? A: If it's a tightly coiled spiral its the tube of a Spirorbid, else probably a Serpulid, bristleworm. Harmless filterfeeders, but may go through population explosions. Usually they disappear as the tank ages. Q: There's weird _long_ translucent tentacles coming out of my live rock! What is it? A: It's the tentacles of a detritus-feeding Terebellid bristleworm. Totally harmless, quite long-lived, and extremely ugly, even for a bristleworm, should you ever see the actual worm (which is probably the size of your thumb!). Q: There's lots of small parasitic bristleworms all over my soft corals! A: Take out the coral, and mechanically remove all the worms by washing the coral in salt water. Repeat as necessary. Q:My tank has been set up for several years, and I've now found bristleworms. Should I be worried? A: No. If they've caused no damage after a year, chances are they never will. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - MVH: Mike Noreen Internet: radharc@karkis.canit.se FIDO: 2:201/411.14 ========================================================================= From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sat Apr 27 17:56:28 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA23281; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:56:28 -0700 Received: from atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (atlantis.actrix.gen.nz [192.100.53.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA23269; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:56:23 -0700 Received: from gread.actrix.gen.nz (chaeto.actrix.gen.nz [202.36.204.171]) by atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA16104 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:53:24 +1200 Message-Id: <199604280053.MAA16104@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Geoff Read" To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:54:07 +0000 Subject: Re: Job: Molecular phylogeny of polychaetes (fwd) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Too late with the news methinks. 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