From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed May 1 01:22:24 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA10936; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:22:24 -0700 Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA10920; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:22:14 -0700 X400-Received: by mta eros.britain.eu.net in /PRMD=eunet/ADMD=0/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:18:36 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=MAFF400/ADMD=ATTmail/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:20:59 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=MAFF400/ADMD=ATTmail/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:20:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:20:39 +0100 X400-Originator: M.A.PENDLE@dfr.maff.gov.uk X400-Recipients: annelida@net.bio.net X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=MAFF400/ADMD=ATTmail/C=GB/;960501162039] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: CSI NC V3.0 From: Marie Pendle AEP2 DFR Message-ID: <0003ED4D.MAI*/I=MA/S=PENDLE/OU=DFR/O=MAFF/PRMD=MAFF400/ADMD=ATTmail/C=GB/@MHS> To: ANNELIDA NEWSGROUP Subject: RE: citation help Stephanie Bailenson __________________________________________________________ The Worm Lab. University of Hawaii Department of Zoology Wrote: Aloha all... I am hoping someone can help me with a troublesome citation. I am trying to locate the source of the article"Population dynamics and ecophysiology of Capitella capitata from North Sea intertidal flats: evidence for two sibling species" by Inez Gamenick and Olaf Giere. We have been unable to locate them in the various indices for journals and books. The only other information we have is that the header lists Polychaete Research and the footer lists BioLine 1994. Any leads you can give me are appreciated. Polychaete Research is a British newsletter, this particular issue reports on a relatively informal meeting - the 2nd Polychaete Colloquium and Workshop, Cardiff, 1993. The information in the front suggests that an e-mail copy can be obtained from bio@biostrat. demon.co.uk I don't know whether this is still the case, but the editor is Chris Mettam, School of Pure and Applied Biology, University of Wales, Cardiff, United Kingdom. Failing all that, I have a copy of it and could send it Best wishes Marie Pendle M.A.F.F. Fisheries Laboratory Remembrance Avenue Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex CM0 8HA United Kingdom m.a.pendle@dfr.gov.uk ---------- From BIOSCI-REQUEST Wed May 1 16:07:53 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA18637; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:07:53 -0700 Received: from storm.greta.cri.nz (storm.greta.cri.nz [131.203.56.10]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA18624; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:07:44 -0700 Received: from read.greta.niwa.cri.nz ([131.203.56.134]) by storm.greta.cri.nz (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA23690 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:03:27 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199605012303.LAA23690@storm.greta.cri.nz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Geoff Read" Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 11:05:51 +12 Subject: RE: citation help Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) For anyone else confused by this -- the list of papers in "Polychaete Research no. 16" appeared in CHAETOZONE seven of May 1995, along with background and contact information for the journal. As far as I know the text of it is not available online anywhere at the moment (see below) but I would be happy to be corrected.. Stephanie Bailenson wrote: > trying to locate the source of the article"Population dynamics and > ecophysiology of Capitella capitata from North Sea intertidal flats: > evidence for two sibling species" by Inez Gamenick and Olaf Giere. > We have been unable to locate them in the various indices for > journals and books. The only other information we have is that the > header lists Polychaete Research and the footer lists BioLine 1994. Marie Pendle replied: >The information in the front suggests that an > e-mail copy can be obtained from bio@biostrat. demon.co.uk I don't know > whether this is still the case ... That e-mail is the contact for Bioline Publications, which confusingly is not connected with BioLine which published Chris Mettam's journal and has one contact e-mail of sabjbe@cardiff.ac.uk. Bioline Publications has a web site, and the page http://www.bdt.org.br/bioline/newsletters has, as it has had for a long time, only information on old issues 14 and 15 (1993) of the "Polychaete Research Newsletter". There is no information on the later "Polychaete Research" incarnation apparent at the site. This strongly suggests to me that it never got there and is not available via e-mail. -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources (moving to) => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html From BIOSCI-REQUEST Thu May 2 02:31:17 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA04091; Wed, 1 May 1996 05:45:22 -0700 Received: from atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (atlantis.actrix.gen.nz [192.100.53.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA04042; Wed, 1 May 1996 05:45:15 -0700 Received: from gread.actrix.gen.nz (chaeto.actrix.gen.nz [202.36.204.171]) by atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA26378 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 00:42:10 +1200 Message-Id: <199605011242.AAA26378@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Geoff Read" To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 00:43:02 +0000 Subject: Receipts and Annelida mail Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Annelida subscribers, A couple of recent messages to the list have had receipt-request or confirm-reading headers attached. Please turn this option off when you send list mail. For the rest of us -- you are probably unaware of this intrusion into your privacy, but, if your mailer shows you these receipt things waiting to go out in your mail queue I recommend you delete them. As for moderation, well, it seems it can't come soon enough for some of you, and there were no objections from the rest. Thus it will be in place in a few days. Geoff -- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/chaeto/index.html (moving to) => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sat May 4 13:08:13 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA14717; Sat, 4 May 1996 13:08:13 -0700 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA14714; Sat, 4 May 1996 13:08:11 -0700 From: Jeanchev@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA23699; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:24:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 15:24:04 -0400 Message-ID: <960504152402_287137277@emout08.mail.aol.com> Subject: CRaZy Complimentary Offer........ Apparently-To: --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: CRaZy Complimentary Offer........ 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Sincerely, Jean Chevalier From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sun May 5 18:29:38 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA26507; Sun, 5 May 1996 18:29:38 -0700 Received: from Joyce-Perkins.tenet.edu (peteb@Joyce-Perkins.tenet.edu [198.213.2.6]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA26504; Sun, 5 May 1996 18:29:36 -0700 Received: (from peteb@localhost) by Joyce-Perkins.tenet.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id UAA22354; Sun, 5 May 1996 20:26:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 20:26:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Pete Bryant To: annelida@net.bio.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe peteb@tenet.edu From daemon Tue May 7 12:16:16 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA15723 Message-Id: <199605071916.MAA15723@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Craeymeersch, Johan" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: new e-mail address Date: Tue, 07 May 96 12:57:00 PDT >From May, 7th, onwards my e-mail address will be craeymer@cemo.nioo.knaw.nl Johan Craeymeersch Netherlands Institute of Ecology Centre for Estuarine and Coastal Ecology Vierstraat 28 4401 EA Yerseke the Netherlands From daemon Tue May 7 19:40:52 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA08631 To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Message-Id: <199605080203.OAA25085@storm.greta.cri.nz> Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 14:06:13 +12 Subject: Re: Meiofaunal Biodiversity Project- Status? On Sun, 17 Dec 1995: SMccar2410@aol.com (Sheryl McCarthy?) wrote: > I was involved in obtaining the Hawaii samples for the "Meiofaunal > Biodiversity Project" that took place in 1993 (sponsored by > Plymouth Marine Lab, U.K.). Does anyone know the status of this > study? I know that there were individuals from all over the world > who took part and I am interested to hear what they found. > Thanks. Remembered that when I saw this: Gee, JM and Warwick, RM (1996) "A study of global biodiversity patterns in the marine motile fauna of hard substrata" JMBAUK 76(1):177-184. Description of project ("Artificial substrate units" = ASU's = nylon pan-scourers!) & preliminary results only. A paper apparently presented at a marine biodiversity meeting in York way back in 1994. They have polychaete taxonomists involved, as yet not publicly named as far as I know. For those who have not yet come across that Feb issue of JMBAUK -- it's worth a look as several papers impinging upon polychaetes are included. -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources (moving to) => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html From daemon Tue May 7 20:17:48 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA12633 To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Geoffrey Read Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Message-Id: <199605080307.PAA12075@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Subject: Annelida now moderated Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 15:07:41 +1200 (NZST) Annelida folks, Just to confirm that the list is now moderated (i.e., the junk still comes to my mail box but not, with any luck, on to yours!). You may notice the annelida messages are addressed to "nobody@net.bio.net" (but the "reply-to" reveals that they came via annelida). Previously reply-to was set to sender. Now it goes to the list. I hope this may mean we have a livelier list! However, moderating gives you a safety net of sorts -- any messages that look as if they should be strictly private I will refer back to sender for confirmation. Enjoy, & best regards to you all, Geoff -- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/chaeto/index.html moving to => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html From daemon Thu May 9 16:21:51 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA24124 Message-Id: <199605092321.QAA24124@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Cutlereb@aol.com Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 10:34:11 -0400 Subject: Spengel's Enteropneusts Greetings, My Japanese colleague, Teruaki Nishikawa (Teruaki@info.human.nagoya-u.ac.jp) is trying to locate material described by J. W. Spengel around the beginning of this century. If anyone out there can help him please contact him directly. Even if you don't know specifically about enteropneusts, where he deposited other 'vermes' could be helpful. Thanks, Ed Cutler From daemon Thu May 9 16:24:26 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA24424 Message-Id: <199605092324.QAA24424@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 11:34:53 +0000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Mike Kendall Subject: Re: Meiofaunal Biodiversity Project- Status? -Reply After seeing Geoff Read's message concerning the meiofaunal biodiversity project I forewarded a copy to Mike Gee who co-ordinates the programme. His reply follows. The polychaete person involved is me (when time is available) Mike Kendall Message from Mike Gee This is the present state of the project Contributors listed in the JMBA paper and also a map of all the sites from which we have received samples. Results of one UK location also given. All contributing labs and main personnel (including Sheryl McCarthy) were sent a copy of the paper. Huge task of sorting both macrofauna and meiofauna samples begun but we don't have the personnel to carry this forward with any speed. One PML scientist (JTD) is picking macrofauna from samples and sorting the amphipods to species and we have two unemployed graduates who are picking the meiofauna (principally copepods) on a voluntary basis for two days a week. They are all starting on one of the Japanese locations. Because of manpower shortage we are at first attempting to do three locations from around 50 degrees north (Japan, UK, Alaska), three from the tropics (Indonesia, Kenya, Trinidad) and three from around 40 degrees south (Brazil, S. Africa, Australia) - others will follow later, hopefully. All the samples are preserved in alcohol and archived at PML at the moment. If anyone has time! - we would be grateful for offers of assistance in sorting. Mike Gee From daemon Thu May 9 16:33:04 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA25500 Message-Id: <199605092333.QAA25500@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 9 May 96 08:28:02 EDT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "mnhiv073@sivm.si.edu" Subject: Re: Aquafarming? [of leeches] The gnathobdellid leeches Hirudo medicinalis and Hirudinaria manillensis are usually used for medicinal purposes. The leech Hirudo medicinalis is a native of Europe and an endangered species (on the CITES list). Hirudinaria manillensis comes from southeast Asia. No North American leech is as effective. To get information about the habitat, reproduction, uses, and diet of leeches, I recommend 4 books: 1). Halton, Cheryl Mays. 1989. Those amazing Leeches. Dillon Press, Inc. Minneapolis, Minnesota. 120 p. [Good introduction to the group; Non-technical] 2). Mann, K.H. 1962. Leeches (Hirudinea) Their structure, physiology, ecology and embryology. Pergamon Press, New York.201 p. [Good introduction to the group and their attributes; More technical] 3). Sawyer, Roy T. 1986. Leech Biology and Behaviour. Vols. I-III Clarendon Press, Oxford England. 1065 p. [The most comprehensive and update book on leeches; technical; Excellent reference] 4). Elliott, J.M. and K.H. Mann. 1979. A key to the British freshwater leeches. Freshwater Biological Association Scientific Publication No 40. 72 p. [Excellent reference to the ecology and natural history of leeches; fairly easy to read] You should be able to find these books at a local college/university library. Sincerely, William Moser Division of Worms mnhiv073@sivm.si.edu ================================== [original message] Tom Hennessy wrote: "I am hoping there is someone on this list who may be able to exchange a few ideas in the realm of 'at home' raising of leeches. I am wondering if the leech which is used 'specifically' for bloodletting [medicinal] is of any special type.. or can one use the common fresh water leech found in northrern States and Provinces of Canada? ... " From daemon Thu May 9 19:47:29 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA16383 Message-Id: <199605100247.TAA16383@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Cutlereb@aol.com Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 22:10:34 -0400 Subject: Rouse & Fauchald Phylogeny Paper Greetings, A few months ago the following article appeared: "The articulation of annelids" Rouse, G.W. & Fauchald K. 1995.. Zoologica Scripta 24: 269-301. It was an exhaustive phylogenetic analysis of the major worm taxa based on a series of morphological characters. They defined their terms and set forth their assumptions. While I am not here taking issue with their conclusions I would like to raise a concern about two characters as they relate to the Sipuncula. NUCHAL ORGAN - They assert that Sipuncula do not have nuchal organs. This term has been used for decades to describe the presumed chemo-receptor. It is different than that in the polychaetes - single (usually multilobed), but not paired, and the innervation seems to be from a different part of the brain - anterior, not posterior. This organ becomes important since it is the ONLY synapomorphy unique to their 'polychaete' construct - soon to include the Pogonophora. While this latter group has not been shown to have a nuchal organ it is still to be included as they suggest it has simply been overlooked by previous investigators of Pogonophora/Vestimentifera. For reference if you wish: B. Akesson's paper (1958. A study of the nervous system of the sipunculoideae, with some remarks on the development of the two species Phascolion strombi Montagu and Golfingia minuta Keferstein. Undersokningar over Oresund (Lund) 38:1-249.) On p. 76 in the section on General Anatomy & Terminology: "The striking resemblances between this organ and the nuchal organ of many polychaetes, indicated chiefly by the histological structure and the type of nerve supply, favors the term nuchal organ also for the sipunculid organ." ... "The organ is innervated by two nerves from the anterodorsal part of the brain near its lateral margin. ...(more on innervation) ..."double innervation of all the nuchal organs" They make a distinction between Paired and Unpaired (but with 2, 4, or 5 lobes) structures. Perhaps this is a real biological distinction with evolutionary significance (not simply a variation on the theme?), but perhaps in future works the emphasis could be on Paired/Single difference rather than a Presence/Absence dichotomy. LONGITUDINAL MUSCLE BANDS: They code longitudinal muscle bands as being either present or absent. Sipuncula DO have l.m.b's but not as they defined them - they are of a different sort and number. Their groups have 4-5 while sipunculans commonly have 20-30. This condition of what I consider to be a late division of an undivided layer has occurred several times within the phylum Sipuncula (9 of the 17 genera). For a detailed discussion see my monograph "The Sipuncula, their systematics, biology, and evolution" Cornell Univ. Press, 1994, particularly Ch. 19. It is possible that the presence of l.m.b's is not an indication of shared common ancestry as they propose, but one result of a common life style that came about more than once?? While this has become a bit long I have tried hard to keep it short to fit this mode of communication. I have shared this (and more) with Greg & Kris privately but I'm putting these thoughts forward here for your consideration. Ed Cutler Cutlereb@aol.com OR EBCutler@husc.harvard.edu p.s. I'll be away from my computer from May 12-23. From daemon Fri May 10 03:38:45 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA28409 To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Message-Id: <199605101023.WAA07828@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 22:24:30 +0000 Subject: Rouse & Fauchald abstract In case some haven't seen the paper yet here is the abstract. Rouse GW; Fauchald K The Articulation of Annelids Zoologica Scripta, 1995, 24(4) (OCT): 269-301 Abstract: The aim of this paper is to assess the monophyly of the Annelida. Also, recent cladistic analyses of metazoan taxa, using a variety of data, have shown incongruities with regards to annelids and associated taxa that should be resolved. The Platyhelminthes is selected as the taxon to root our minimal length trees and polarise our characters in a parsimony analysis; ingroup taxa being Mollusca, Nemertea, Sipuncula, Echiura, Pogonophora, Vestimentifera, Euarthropoda, Onychophora, and the groups most commonly regarded as true 'annelids', the Clitellata and Polychaeta. We use 13 characters and a total of 33 states. This results in 18 minimal length trees of 23 steps. The consensus tree has the topology (Platyhelminthes (Nemertea (Sipuncula Mollusca (Echiura (Polychaeta (Vestimentifera Pogonophora) Clitellata (Euarthropoda Onychophora)))))). The name Articulata is applied to the Clitellata, Euarthropoda, Onychophora, Pogonophora, Polychaeta, and Vestimentifera. The Vestimentifera is the sister group to, or more likely a clade within, the frenulate pogonophores, and the name Pogonophora is retained for this group. In half of the 18 minimal length trees, the traditionally formulated Annelida, i.e. Polychaeta and Clitellata, is paraphyletic if the Pogonophora are excluded. In the remaining minimal length trees, a monophyletic Annelida cannot be formulated. The name Annelida should not be used unless relationships within the Articulata are resolved to show it is a monophyletic taxon. The taxon name Articulata, originally formulated to include the Annelida and Arthropoda by Cuvier, is defined as the clade stemming from the first ancestor to show repetition of homologous body structures derived by teloblastic growth with a pygidial growth zone (segmentation) and longitudinal muscles broken into bands. The Articulata is considered, on current evidence, to consist of four monophyletic groups; the Arthropoda, Clitellata, Polychaeta, and Pogonophora, though the latter group may be a clade of polychaetes. If this is shown, the Pogonophora should revert to the original family name Lamellisabellidae Uschakov, 1933. An indented classification reflective of the cladistic pattern is provided. Other recent hypotheses about metazoan systematics are analysed. =========================================================================== From daemon Fri May 10 14:50:14 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA20791 Message-Id: <199605102150.OAA20791@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 10:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Marine Biology Laboratory Subject: Conference announcement [Oligochaetes] Hello Readers: I have just received a flyer on the 7th International Symposium on Aquatic Oligochaetes. Its August 18-22 1997 in Maine, U. S. A. It accepts leech papers as well. Contact Dr. Gelder(Symposium leader)at email GELDER@polaris.umpi.maine.edu if you need the full announcement and sign up sheet. Bye Tom Parker LACSD mblcsdla@netcom.com From daemon Fri May 10 15:11:25 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA23231 Message-Id: <199605102211.PAA23231@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 13:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Kirk Fitzhugh Subject: Re: Rouse & Fauchald Phylogeny Paper All: Ed Cutler's comments on the Rouse & Fauchald "articulation" paper do, I believe, convey the sort of reaction one would want to see to such an analysis. Namely, to stimulate positive thinking about some very fundamental issues. Whether Rouse & Fauchald were mistaken in some of their interpretations or did not read every piece of literature for every taxon in each phylum is of no relevance. I dare say my own interpretations of characters as part of my research on sabellids changes with my mood. While I take Cutler's comments to be constructive, it would have been more illuminating had he incorporated this information into the Rouse & Fauchald data set and discussed the results. Science is powered by our interpretations of what we percieve around us, but Science only grows when interpretations are synthesized into the more complete framework of explanatory hypothesis formation. The controversy over phylum relationships will not die down any time soon for one very big reason: our understanding of relationships at most levels within phyla are not much better than meagre. To (theoretically) have a more complete understanding of, say, plesiomorphic states for the taxon Polychaeta (assuming monophyly) would necessitate having patterns of relationship among families (assuming monophyly), which would necessitate patterns of relationship among genera (ditto), etc., etc. Such simply is not the case. Phylogenetic research programs for invertebrates are pitifully lacking. As such, I'm generally critical of those who attempt phylum-level analyses; which seems to be the growing trend with the advent of the misguided and grossly naive notion that molecular sequence data will tell us how phyla are related. I do, however, applaud Rouse & Fauchald for their efforts because their explicit intent is to work down to less general levels for the purpose of then going back up. This is a classic case of reciprocal illumination. Yet, rather than colleagues engaging in disputes about what phylum is related to another based on piecemeal evidence, our collective efforts really need to focus on expanding phylogenetic research within polychaete families, and for the most part genera and species. It is truely astounding how few polychaete families and genera can be considered monophyletic - a fact which should be the most compelling reason not to worry so much about phylum relationships. Rather than focusing our efforts on showing how Rouse & Fauchald are wrong, I do hope that invertebrate systematists will seek to improve the knowledge base of within-phylum relationships such that analyses among phyla can go beyond the anectdotal. Regards, Kirk Fitzhugh --------------------------------------------- Kirk Fitzhugh Associate Curator of Polychaetes Research & Collections Branch Los Angeles County Museum of Natural History 900 Exposition Blvd Los Angeles CA 90007 Phone: (213) 744-3233 FAX: (213) 746-2999 e-mail: fitzhugh@bcf.usc.edu --------------------------------------------- From daemon Fri May 10 15:17:22 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA23970 Message-Id: <199605102217.PAA23970@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:54:10 -0500 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Mario Baltazar Choque Subject: Help!! [address of Visscher ...] Hello everyone, I need the email of Pieter Visscher, Jan Beukema or Hans van Gemerden at the Deparment of Microbiology of the Groningen University-Nether lands, if you know something about them, please send me the information to: mbaltaza@halcon.dpi.udec.cl Thanks for all and Have a nice weekend Bye....Mario Baltazar Marine Biologist Deparment of Oceanography University of Concepcion Concepcion-CHILE From daemon Sat May 11 14:32:05 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA26904 Message-Id: <199605112132.OAA26904@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 14:34:18 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Kristian Fauchald Subject: Rouse & Fauchald Phylogeny Paper -Reply Kristian and I welcome the comments that were recently posted by Ed Cutler. The posting by Kirk Fitzhugh is a more than elegant summary of what we were trying to do so we feel there is nothing to add in that regard. However, Ed's concerns should be addressed. Nuchal Organs We did consider giving the Sipuncula either their own state for this character, or a score of 'present', but decided not to. This was largely because, no matter what the innervation, the structure is still single, hence not the same as the paired structures found in virtually every group of 'polychaetes'. This is a valid justification for our homology argument and we made the term 'nuchal organ' restrictive. However, for those interested in the 'what if' side of things, coding the Sipuncula in our matrix with nuchal organs present, ie. the same state as Polychaeta, or with their own state 'single', does not change our trees; nuchal organs merely appear independently for the Sipuncula every time. This homoplastic result thus supports our narrow use of the term. The issue of the 'Pogonophora' will be dealt with further in forthcoming papers. Longitudinal Muscles Members of the Sipuncula, as we stated in our paper, can have muscle banding but it does not resemble the situation found in the Articulata. We had no reason to suggest any homology and feel our coding is satisfactory on this point. In fact Ed's comment that banding has evolved several times in the Sipuncula provides further support for our decision to regard the plesiomorphic condition for the group to be 'unbanded'. Coding Sipuncula with bands present will collapse our trees and the heuristic value of this is difficult to see. Ed's comment that the banding found in Articulata could have evolved several times within the group is problematic. There are no taxa in the clade, to our knowledge, that have an unbanded condition so we have no evidence for any such speculation. Also, functional considerations of the type suggested by Ed are untestable and we deliberately left out any discussion of the many 'stories' about evolution in the Metazoa. We suggest it is time to move beyond such a methodology since it is largely responsible for the mess we are in now. Finally we are sorry we did not see Ed's fine book in the course of our work and will certainly consult it in future. greg and kristian ps. We are not so confident in our result to suggest a renaming of Annelida discussion group. From daemon Sat May 11 14:35:38 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA27000 Message-Id: <199605112135.OAA27000@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 16:37:50 +0000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: B.L.Cohen@udcf.gla.ac.uk (B.L.Cohen) Subject: Re: Rouse & Fauchald Phylogeny Paper >Phylogenetic research programs for invertebrates are pitifully >lacking. As such, I'm generally critical of those who attempt phylum-level >analyses; which seems to be the growing trend with the advent of the >misguided and grossly naive notion that molecular sequence data will tell us >how phyla are related. > >Kirk Fitzhugh > As someone involved in trying to use molecular data to unravel lophophorate relationships (especially brachiopods) I would disagree with this remark. Whilst it may be true that any one gene (such as the 18s rDNA sequence) may contain insufficient evidence to completely resolve phylum-level relationships, it does very well at lower levels (e.g. Classes) and clearly separates creatures belonging to different phyla. If the SSU gene alone can show that phoronids and brachiopods are monophyletic, why, with more data, should other relationships between phyla be impossible to discern? Perhaps if Kirk has some solid evidence to support his remark he will share it with us. Bernie Cohen Dr B. L. Cohen Phone: (+44) (0)141 339 8855 ext 5103/5101 Molecular Genetics Fax: 330 5994 University of Glasgow, Pontecorvo Building, 56 Dumbarton Rd Glasgow G11 6NU Scotland, UK. From daemon Sat May 11 22:49:29 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA09424 Message-Id: <199605120549.WAA09424@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 20:13:35 -700 (PDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Mike Satterwhite Subject: Re: Rouse & Fauchald Phylogeny Paper [For Cohen in the first line read Fitzhugh. Judicious editing of requotes of prior postings is recommended -- Moderator ;-)] ========================================================================= I second the suggestion that evidence be provided to support B.L. Cohen's criticism. I am not suggesting that such evidence doesn't exist. I would suggest that this issue is of great importance and worthy of a scholoarly review in this medium. I am afraid (and biased I suppose), that in the absence of molecular data, we really don't have much data supporting phylogeny in many areas, especially among the invertebrates. MS ============================================================================ D. Michael Satterwhite, PhD. Phone: 208-799-2890 at LCSC Division of Natural Science and Mathematics Home: 208-746-3628/7288 Lewis-Clark State College Fax: 208-799-2064 500 8th Street Lewiston, Idaho 83501 e-mail: msatterw@lcsc.edu On Sat, 11 May 1996, B.L.Cohen wrote: > >Phylogenetic research programs for invertebrates are pitifully > >lacking. As such, I'm generally critical of those who attempt phylum-level > >analyses; which seems to be the growing trend with the advent of the > >misguided and grossly naive notion that molecular sequence data will tell us > >how phyla are related. > > > >Kirk Fitzhugh > > > > As someone involved in trying to use molecular data to unravel lophophorate > relationships (especially brachiopods) I would disagree with this remark. > Whilst it may be true that any one gene (such as the 18s rDNA sequence) may > contain insufficient evidence to completely resolve phylum-level > relationships, it does very well at lower levels (e.g. Classes) and clearly > separates creatures belonging to different phyla. 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Please contact us at biosci-help@net.bio.net for details. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From daemon Sun May 12 04:09:05 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA02941 Message-Id: <199605121109.EAA02941@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 22:45:49 +0000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Geoff Read Subject: Annelida and not nobody (nohow, noway!) A tiny, tiny clarification: The list address has not changed. Please send all contributions to Annelida list discussions ONLY to the e-mail address . (I hope the lack of junk mail is enjoyable, and that the outbreak of discussion is also. Please cast off your inhibitions and have your say too.) That is all I wanted to say that is important. Those whose native language is not English can safely stop reading here. And most others can give up on this message also -- unless you might have received the (incorrect) impression that perhaps list mail could be sent somewhere else as-well-as, or instead-of, the correct address above and you now want to be confused further. Here goes -- I mentioned in an earlier message the change in the 'to:' address you may see on incoming mail. That 'to:' address is just an artifact, a dummy, a device, a programmer's quirk, and is created when the Biosci computer processes moderated mail and sends it to all annelida subscribers, on its file, one-by-one. A shorthand used by somebody for nobody-in-particular and everybody-in-general. It is the same on all biosci lists. I know not why, but it is. It obviously should not be used as a real address and is not the reply-to address or the true 'to' address. So please don't send list mail to nobody, somebody, anybody, or everybody at biosci -- just to (as you did before) is all that is necessary. Thanks, :-) :-) Annelida Moderator [ANNELIDA server address = biosci-server@net.bio.net (un/subscribes)] [Discussion group address = annelida@net.bio.net (talk to all members)] -- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/chaeto/index.html (moving to) => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html From daemon Sun May 12 14:41:39 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA28238 Message-Id: <199605122141.OAA28238@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 09:06:25 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: jablake@ix.netcom.com (JAMES ALAN BLAKE) Subject: Re: Rouse & Fauchald Phylogeny Paper Dear Annelid enthusiasts, Greg and Kristian's phylogeny paper seems to have a kicked off a lively debate that is branching out in several directions, rather like a cladogram :). I don't profess in any way to understanding molecular genetics, except that my daughter is a biochemist and active in the field and I have a cousin who is heavily funded by NIH in the same area. Based upon comments with my relatives, I take some exception to Kirk Fitzhugh's suggestion that studies of molecular sequence data will be of no use in understanding phylogentic relationships at the phylum level. Given that the evolution all existing phyla was probably complete by the beginning of the Cambrian (600 MY), and that many other phyla came and went during that same Period, we have little in the way of direct evidence as to what the ancestral soft-bodied organisms were that gave rise to what we are looking at today (assuming a monophyletic origin). It seems to me that a comparison of gene sequences among related groups of organisms can only help in an understanding of their relationships. The problem however, is which sequences to focus on. Given how much time and energy has gone into the Human Genome Program, such an effort for invertebrates will of necessity be limited to identifying those gene sequences responsible for characters that currently are used to define phyla. We are probably talking about some very fundamental anatomical features, not chemosensory and adaptive characters such as nuchal organs. I agree with Kirk that outrageous claims are being made, but these are probably because investigators are rushing their work into print, making claims that are based upon sparse data, sometimes speculation, and often reliance on what a cladistics software program reveals. I have seen some recent examples of very bad cladistics using traditional morphology, where the full extent of character state richness was not developed not to mention the use of very inapproprite characters in the matrix to begin with. When inappropriate character matrices are used, there will obviously be problems in interpreting the results. I think that molecular sequence data will be difficult to use initially, but it should not be discounted because it may be the only real link we may have to understanding the origins of phyla. If we do not consider all available information in the development of a phylogeny, then our hypotheses become exercises in fantasy. Jim Blake ENSR, 89 Water Street Woods Hole, MA 02543 (jablake@ix.netcom.com) From daemon Mon May 13 03:41:01 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA05824 Message-Id: <199605131041.DAA05824@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:34:36 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Sabine Cochrane Subject: Parasites of Sabellids Does anyone out there have any experience with parasitic copepods which produce strings of eggs and are attached to the radiolar crown of Sabellid polychaetes? Any comments on the occurrence and morphology of these, or references to the literature would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance, Sabine Cochrane Akvaplan-niva AS Postboks 735 9001 Tromsoe Norway Tlf: +47 77 68 52 80 Fax:+47 77 68 05 09 e-mail: sabine.cochrane@akvaplan.niva.no From daemon Mon May 13 12:01:04 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA04002 Message-Id: <199605131901.MAA04002@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 13 May 96 13:50:00 DST Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Petersen, "Mary E. {ZMUC}" Subject: Re: Parasites of Sabellids On Mon, 13 May 1996 10:34:36 +0200 Sabine Cochrane wrote: >Subject: Parasites of Sabellids >Does anyone out there have any experience with parasitic copepods which >produce strings of eggs and are attached to the radiolar crown of >Sabellid polychaetes? Any comments on the occurrence and morphology of >these, or references to the literature would be greatly appreciated. (...) Hi, Sabine! Try Humes & Stock 1973 to see what some of the older literature has to offer: Humes, Arthur G. & Jan H. Stock. 1973. A revision of the family Lichomolgidae Kossmann, 1877, cyclopoid copepods mainly associated with marine invertebrates. -- Smithsonian Contributions to Zoology 127: v+368 pp. For the family Sabelliphilidae Guerney, 1927, at least 18 genera have been reported from sabellids; an index of host genera is also included. I don't know if any of these produce strings of eggs, but Sabelliphilus elongatus M. Sars, 1862, the type species of the genus, might be worth checking. According to the remarks (p. 69), "This species always lives on the branchial crown of the polychaete host." [host = Sabella sarsii Kro/yer (= S. pavonina Savigny, Norway)] (No figures but lots of references.) Best wishes, Mary ------- Mary E. Petersen Zoological Museum, University of Copenhagen Universitetsparken 15, DK-2100 Copenhagen O, Denmark Tel +45-35 32 10 67 --- Fax +45-35 32 10 10 E-mail From daemon Mon May 13 11:56:13 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA03736 Message-Id: <199605131856.LAA03736@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:53:24 +0100 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard?= Bellan Subject: Re: Parasites of Sabellids In very old days (more than 30 years ago), I think to remenber me than one of my colleague (and friend) Y. CARTON, Laboratoire propre du CNRS, Populations, Evolution, Centre de recherche du CNRS, Gif sur Yvette, worked on "your" topic. I'm unable to say you if he is always (more or less) interested by these Copepods. Nevertheless, if you want I could send you the exact adress of Y. CARTON. In the other hand, our Colleague, the well known Polychetologist L. LAUBIER studied lot of parasistic Copepods, may be on Sabellids, I haven't the time to control that. If you are working in connection with The Tronsoe Museum, please present the best Regards from the 3 Bellan to Vim Vader. Sincerely BELLAN >Does anyone out there have any experience with parasitic copepods which >produce strings of eggs and are attached to the radiolar crown of >Sabellid polychaetes? Any comments on the occurrence and morphology of >these, or references to the literature would be greatly appreciated. > >Sabine Cochrane Dr. Gerard BELLAN Centre d'Oceanologie de Marseille UMR CNRS DIMAR Station marine d'Endoume Rue Batterie des Lions 13007 MARSEILLE France tel.: (33) 91 04 16 12 Fax.: (33) 91 04 16 35 From daemon Mon May 13 12:04:41 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA04335 Message-Id: <199605131904.MAA04335@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 18:30:59 GMT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt Subject: Re: Parasites of Sabellids For copepods associated with marine inverts see Humes and Stock (1973) ... copepods mainly associated with marine invertebrates. Smiths. Contr. Zool. 127, 1-368. More than 320 species are listed. The index to host genera (page 365-368) lists many poly- chete genera and their associated copepds. Dr. Stock is retired but still happy to look at specimens. Peter Wirtz biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt From daemon Mon May 13 14:57:22 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA22766 Message-Id: <199605132157.OAA22766@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 16:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: pchevald@ahab.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Parasites of Sabellids Dear Sabine, Annelidans have been very efficient and quick at pointing out the key reference by Humes and Stock (1973). In case this helps, here is an additional reference : Humes, A. G. 1975. Cyclopoid copepods associated with marine invertebrates in Mauritius. Zool. J. Linn. Soc. 56: 171-181 Good luck Pierre Pierre Chevaldonne Center for Deep-Sea Ecology and Biotechnology Tel: 908 932 8959 (x-205) Institute of Marine and Coastal Sciences Fax: 908 932 6557 Rutgers University Dudley Road, Cook College New Brunswick, NJ 08903, USA E-mail: pchevald@imcs.rutgers.edu From daemon Mon May 13 14:55:30 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA22554 Message-Id: <199605132155.OAA22554@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 12:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Kirk Fitzhugh Subject: Re: Rouse & Fauchald Phylogeny Paper To Pro-annelido-moleculoid types: Since Bernie Cohen, Jim Blake, and Michael Satterwhite interpreted my statement about moleculoid research as meaning that I hold no hope for sequence data in phylogenetic research, let me clarify some matters. I did not intend to condem sequences as data unworthy of inclusion in cladistic analyses, much less for inferring patterns of relationship at any level. I've no problem with the notion that science should strive to collect observations. Sequences (qua observation) are no different from what one might gleen from looking at gross morphology. Sequences suffer the same (maybe more) inherent problems with respect to homology as morphology. Data are data no matter what, and in the context of cladistic analysis, the goal is to explain why a given set of taxa share particular states to the exclusion of other taxa. Thus, my statement that the interest in phylum relationships is a "growing trend with the advent of the misguided and grossly naive notion that molecular sequence data will tell us how phyla are related" was not a general remark on the data themselves, but on the percieved greater importance of those data relative to other observations as well as the generally poor degree to which phyla are represented in these studies. To sequence, say, a couple of flatworms, a sipunculan, a vestimentiferan, a polychaete, an oligochaete, and a fruit fly, and produce a cladogram in the name of gaining substanative understanding of phylum relationships is laughable. Similarly, I can't think of anyone so completely fluent in the systematics of all invertebrates that they are truely qualified to discern plesiomorphic taxa representative of each phylum. Again, this presumes a solid knowledge of within-phylum relationships, the lack of which was the concern expressed in my earlier posting. I certainly would agree that sequences have profound utility when there are inherent problems characterizing homologous conditions of morphological characters between phyla. What I vehemently disagree with is the position that one suite of characters, say sequences, is "better" or "more informative" than another suite for the sake of simply generating trees. Once again, my problem is not with the data per se, but the manner in which it has been used. As I tried to indicate earlier, working at the level of phylum to the exclusion of having a better understanding of lower level relationships is a very fundamental problem. To work at the level of phylum, or even class or order, using molecular data from a limited set of taxa representing these groups presumes the monophyly of each group. If evidence of monophyly is lacking, then the patterns generated are not particularly illuminating, and potentially very misleading. For instance, if one is interested in relationships of polychaete families, the more basic issue of polychaete monophyly must be addressed as a part of this research, which necessitates consideration of polychaete/clitellate relationships, not to mention how vestimentiferans/pogonophorans, echiurans, and arthropods fit into all this. That polychaete monophyly is tenuous at best, certainly calls into question the efficacy of a phylum-level research program, especially one as grand as looking at relationships among the metazoa, regardless of using sequences or morphology. I hope this has soothed the concerns of Cohen, Blake, and Satterwhite. The bottom line is that I have always been an advocate for seeking evidence of all sorts for phylogenetic research, especially given that I support analyses of _ALL_ data combined as opposed to the use of consensus techniques. Having data at hand is one thing, using it responsibly and within the purview of accepted scientific practice is another. Kirk --------------------------------------------- Kirk Fitzhugh Associate Curator of Polychaetes Research & Collections Branch Los Angeles County Museum of Natural History 900 Exposition Blvd Los Angeles CA 90007 Phone: (213) 744-3233 FAX: (213) 746-2999 e-mail: fitzhugh@bcf.usc.edu --------------------------------------------- From daemon Mon May 13 23:12:12 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA16228 Message-Id: <199605140612.XAA16228@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 17:55:37 +12 Subject: Lair of the Web Worm A Web-Worm burrow of the annelid kind is open for exploration at: http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html I've been playing around with this set of worm web pages on and off for quite some time (mostly off as you might have noticed - so much to do, so little time)! It's not leading-edge in web design but the important aspect of this project is making information freely and readily available, and I think it's certainly polished enough now to be worthy of your evaluation. So please have a cruise through it if you can, give me some feedback as to what else could/should be there, and send in any useful material you may have (any further translations available, any graphics?). Don't hesitate to point out errors of fact, any minor glitches in layout, or any other difficulties you have in navigating (there shouldn't be such things, but they do creep in as multiple changes are made). The pages are intended to be helpful for others on the periphery of the subject, as well as to the 'hard-core' worm specialists such as ourselves. Many thanks to those who have generously allowed material to be put online. Amongst which the highlights for me are the complete texts of the 1995 polychaete-conference abstracts courtesy of Pei-Yuan Qian, a nicely-arranged glossary of polychaete terminology authored by Chris Glasby, and Lobo Orensanz has contributed a version of his ongoing checklist of Pacific NorthWest polychaetes. I've done a very condensed guide to polychaete families which has potential to be expanded in various ways, and if any expert on a particular family feels inspired to become the author of more detailed backgrounders (or has something suitable at their disposal) I'd be eager to link such material in to the system. The version of the PRO address file of polychaete researchers is an interim edition until I can get time to add new entries (any more out there?). When that is edited I'll probably send a copy to Annelida mailing list. My Actrix-hosted web page still exists, but it is not worth looking at until I remodel it (very soon). Regards to you all, Geoff -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html From daemon Tue May 14 05:07:50 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA17991 Message-Id: <199605141207.FAA17991@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 12:10:46 +0100 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Harry A. ten Hove" Subject: parasites on sabellids [Sabine: I can confirm the host address in your header does not work for replies at the moment - Moderator] ======================================================================== The message sent directly to Sabine.Cochrane@akvaplan.niva.no bounced twice, hence that I decided to go "public" in the annelida discussion group. 140596 Dear Sabine, in addition to the various replies you got I can tell you that Prof. J.H. Stock indeed will be interested in the parasitic copepods you encountered. Generally he answers my questions about parasites of serpulids, the sisterfamily of sabellids, within a couple of weeks. Although he occasionally visits our lab, the fastest way to communicate is on his home address: Ridderweg 2 4327 SK SEROOSKERKE (Schouwen) Nederland tel. 0111672008 Wormly, Harry A. ten Hove Institute for Systematics and Populationbiology Zoological Museum, University of Amsterdam POB 94766, 1090 GT AMSTERDAM tel. 3120 5256906 fax. 3120 5255402 Email: hove@bio.uva.nl From daemon Wed May 15 18:22:54 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA22563 Message-Id: <199605160122.SAA22563@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Geoffrey Read Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: 7th Int. Symp. Aquatic Oligochaetes Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 12:30:00 +1200 (NZST) [I am posting to Annelida list the full announcement obtained from Dr Stuart Gelder and will put a 'prettier' version on the web site. -GBR] SEVENTH INTERNATIONAL ** PRESQUE ISLE ** SYMPOSIUM ON * MAINE, U.S.A. * AQUATIC OLIGOCHAETES 18 - 22 AUGUST 1997 FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS Time to think of the seventh symposium! It will be held on the campus of the University of Maine at Presque Isle during the 18th to 22nd August 1997. You are invited to present a paper on your research in either oral or poster format, or attend and contribute to discussions on oligochaetology. The major topics of the papers in the symposium will include morphology, systematics, evolution, biogeography, ecology, pollution biology, parasite interactions, and physiology of oligochaetes. Contributions on leech phylogeny and systematics are also welcome. Please share this invitation with your colleagues. The University of Maine at Presque Isle is one of the smaller campuses in the State University System. Most of the buildings are new and convenient to the adjacent city. Presque Isle is located in northern Maine with the Northern Maine Regional airport located only 3km from the campus. Most flights fly directly the 650km from Presque Isle into the Boston International airport. Presque Isle is situated on US Route 1, 65km north of the end of Interstate 95, and 30km west of the TransCanada Highway as it passes through Perth-Andover, New Brunswick, Canada. Accommodation, meals and scientific sessions will be held on the campus. The accommodation is in high standard student dormitories, with two people sharing a room. Single person rooms are available at a slightly higher price. If more expensive motel accommodation is desired, this can be booked at one of two motels within 300m of the campus. Tentative prices will be a registration fee of 100 USD (maximum) and about 40 USD per day for food and dormitory accommodation. Accurate prices will be given in the Second Announcement. Please return your tentative registration form BEFORE 1 September 1996. If you wish to make an oral or a poster presentation please indicate which on the attached form. When, and how long your oral presentation will be, will be announced later. In order to keep the mailing cost as low as possible, only tentatively registered colleagues will be sent the Second Announcement. Please complete the enclosed form and mail it to: Dr. S.R. Gelder University of Maine at Presque Isle FAX: +207-768-9608 181 Main Street Presque Isle GELDER@polaris.umpi.maine.edu ME 04769-2888 U.S.A. I look forward to seeing you in 1997! SEVENTH INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM ON AQUATIC OLIGOCHAETES PRESQUE ISLE, MAINE, U.S.A. -- 18 - 22 AUGUST 1997 TENTATIVE REGISTRATION FORM NAME: _________________________________________________ TITLE: ____________ ADDRESS: __________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ TEL. NO. _____________ FAX: ______________ E-MAIL:______________________ Please fill in one of the following: _____ I will attend the symposium, and _____ enclose (or ___ will send latter) the registration fee. _____ I do not think I will be able to attend, but wish to receive the Second Announcement. _____ I will not be attending the Symposium. NAME OF ACCOMPANYING PERSON (not participating in symposium):_______________ TITLE OF ORAL PRESENTATION: ________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ TITLE OF POSTER: ___________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ Abstracts of oral and poster presentations MUST be submitted by May 1, 1997 Return the form to: Dr. S.R. Gelder University of Maine at Presque Isle 181 Main Street Presque Isle FAX: +207-768-9608 ME 04769-2888 U.S.A. E-mail: GELDER@polaris.umpi.maine.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html previously at => http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/chaeto/index.html From daemon Thu May 16 15:56:59 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA02835 Message-Id: <199605162256.PAA02835@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 10:27:38 +12 Subject: Vanished earthworm taxonomy Can this be true? Quoting from a New Scientist capsule review (p44, Jan96): "There are treasures, however, such as the chapter titled 'Forgetting', which shows how some science disciplines simply vanish. Earthworm taxonomy is his example." The book: "Beginning Again: People and Nature in the New Millennum" [sic], by David Ehrenfeld, OUP. Not having seen the book I don't know how he apparently decided the last word had been said on earthworm relationships. Granted there aren't that many species, but, to compare with the ultimate, human taxonomy is a rather lively field at the moment. And would I be incorrect in assuming there were never vast numbers of practitioners in the field (literally!) anyway? -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html From daemon Thu May 16 18:21:48 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA16932 Message-Id: <199605170121.SAA16932@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:32:28 +1200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Geoffrey Read Subject: Ecology of estuaries and soft sediment habitats (Conf.) ------- start of forwarded message to Annelida list ------- Newsgroups: sci.bio.ecology Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 23:34:00 EDT Subject: Conference on the ecology of estuaries and soft sediment habitats 1st Announcement INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE on the ECOLOGY OF ESTUARIES AND SOFT SEDIMENT HABITATS School of Aquatic Science and Natural Resources Management Deakin University Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia 3280 3-8 February 1997 Australia is one of the most urbanised of the developed nations with over 50% of its population located in cities associated with estuaries and coastal environments. The ecology of estuaries in Australia has become a topic of interest to governments and public as a result of recent enquiries and the State of the Marine Environment report. However, experimental estuarine ecology in Australia is in its infancy. As a result, ecologists have a limited ability to provide predictions about how estuarine assemblages will respond to a variety of influences, including those which are anthropogenic. The theme of this conference will be benthic ecology in estuaries and soft sediment habitats but broad discussion of estuarine ecology generally is also invited. The aims of the conference are to: i) synthesise knowledge on benthic ecology of Australian estuaries compared to estuarine ecology elsewhere in the world, and, on the basis of these syntheses, ii) to discuss and derive priorities for research into these systems in Australia. The conference will include invited speakers, contributed papers and posters and targeted discussion. A number of speakers with considerable experience in soft sediment ecology have been invited to address aspects of the theme in order to stimulate discussion on future directions for research into estuarine and soft sediment ecology, including: C.H. Peterson, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, U.S.A.; B. Coull, Marine and Biological Sciences, University of South Carolina, U.S.A.; D. McLusky, University of Stirling, Stirling, Scotland; P. Hutchings, Australia Museum, Sydney, N.S.W.; W. Dennison, University of Qld, Queensland; I. Potter, Murdoch University, W.A.; S. Thrush, Department of Scientific and Industrial Research, Hamilton, N.Z.; A.J. Underwood, University of Sydney, Sydney, N.S.W.; M.J. Keough, University of Melbourne, Melbourne, Victoria; P. Fairweather, CSIRO, Griffith, N.S.W. More information can be obtained from the conference organisers (Dr.Andrew Constable or Assoc. Prof. Brad Mitchell) on email: asnrm@deakin.edu.au fax: Australia: 03 9244 7480; International 61 3 9244 7480 __________________________________________________________ Dr. Andrew Constable Lecturer in Marine Ecology School of Aquatic Science and Natural Resources Management Deakin University PO Box 423 Warrnambool Vic 3280 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 55 63 3099 Fax: +61 55 63 3462 Email: aconst@deakin.edu.au ------- end of forwarded message ------- From daemon Thu May 16 19:38:04 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA23814 Message-Id: <199605170238.TAA23814@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Sean Handley" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: Cawthron Institute Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:21:30 GMT+12 Subject: Polychaete larval systematics Dear Annelidians I am looking for reference material for the identification of polychaete larvae from plankton samples, with particular interest in Spionids and Polynoids. I'd greatly appreciate any help you could provide. Thanks...Sean Handley ---------------------------------------------------------- Sean Handley sean@environment.cawthron.org.nz Cawthron Private Bag 2 Tel 03 548 2319 Nelson Fax 03 546 9464 New Zealand ---------------------------------------------------------- From daemon Thu May 16 22:28:34 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA15341 Message-Id: <199605170528.WAA15341@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 17:11:13 +12 Subject: Re: Parasites of Sabellids > Does anyone out there have any experience with parasitic copepods ... For copepods on polychaetes generally Gotto seems to be one good modern resource: "Commensal and parasitic copepods associated with marine invertebrates (and whales). Keys and notes for identification of the species." V. Gotto (1993), Synop. Brit. Fauna (NS), no.461-264 which has a ref to: "The assoc. of copepods with marine invertebrates." V. Gotto (1979) Adv. mar. biol. 16:1-109 I also have a dim recollection of happening upon another very recent monograph. Maybe there's more out there ... ;-) Geoff R. PS: Sabine - your alternate address is still not working. From daemon Fri May 17 12:35:49 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA08752 Message-Id: <199605171935.MAA08752@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 17 May 96 12:00:32 GMT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: gljp@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: Parasites of Sabellids Concerning copepods on Sabellids, I got this information from Rony Huys: Hope that is useful Gordon Paterson Rony writes: The copepods are most likely members of the Sabelliphilidae Gurney, 1927 (order Poecilostomatoida) which are associates of polychaete worms, the only exception being Phoronicola which was found on a phoronid worm in Hong Kong. The host taxa of the remaining genera are all tubicolous polychaetes, usually either members of the Sabellidae (copepod genera Sabelliphilus M. Sars, 1862; Myxomolgus Humes & Stock, 1972 ; Myxomolgoides Humes, 1975; and Nasomolgus Sewell, 1949) or of the family Serpulidae (genera Serpuliphilus Humes & Stock, 1972 and Acaenomolgus Humes & Stock, 1972). The host of Eupolymniphilus Humes & Boxshall, 1996 belongs to the Terebellidae. Useful references are: Humes, A.G. & J.H. Stock (1973). A revision of the family Lichomolgidae Kossmann, 1877, cyclopoid copepods mainly associated with marine invertebrates. Smithsonian Contributions to Zoology, 127: 1-386. Humes, A.G. (1975) Cyclopoid copepods associated with marine invertebrates in Mauritius. Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society, 56: 171-181. A key to genera of Sabelliphilidae is found in: Humes, A.G. & G.A. Boxshall (1996). A revision of the lichomolgoid complex (Copepoda: Poecilostomatoida), with the recognition of six new families. Journal of Natural History, 30: 175-227. regards Rony Rony HUYS Crustacea Research Group Department of Zoology The Natural History Museum Cromwell Road, LONDON, SW7 5BD. internet: r.huys@nhm.ac.uk =========================== [Ah! That last is probably the one I partly remembered. Thanks :-) GBR (Moderator)] From daemon Fri May 17 12:35:51 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA08753 Message-Id: <199605171935.MAA08753@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 07:54:01 GMT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Frank Licher Subject: Re: Polychaete larval systematics Dear Sean, do you know the following paper? Plate, Susanne & Husemann, Eginhard (1994) Identification guide to the planctonic polychaete larvae around the island of Helgoland (German Bight). Helgolaender Meeresuntersuchungen, 48: 1-58. If the address of the authors is still actual, you can call them at Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum Lehrstuhl fuer Spezielle Zoologie und Parasitologie Postfach 10 21 48 D-44721 Bochum I suppose they still have their material. Hope that I could help you. Frank Licher -------------------------------------------------------- Frank Licher Universitaet Osnabrueck, FB 5, Spezielle Zoologie D-49069 Osnabrueck, Germany Tel: +49-(0)541-969-2859 Fax: +49-(0)541-969-2870 From daemon Fri May 17 12:35:49 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA08754 Message-Id: <199605171935.MAA08754@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 13:32:20 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "P.J.W. Olive" Subject: Whereabouts Pat Hutchings Greg Rouse I apologise to annelidans for a specific message broadcast but I need to contact Pat Hutchings and Greg Rouse who are not at base camp. If they are in touch with annelid newsletter or someone knows where they are could I ask for e-mail contact. p.j.w.olive@ncl.ac.uk I am enjoying the dialog about Articulata quite exciting opening my mail each day Peter Olive From daemon Fri May 17 13:05:10 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA12802 Message-Id: <199605172005.NAA12802@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Marine Biology Laboratory Subject: Re: Polychaete larval systematics On Fri, 17 May 1996, Sean Handley wrote: > Dear Annelidians > > I am looking for reference material for the identification of > polychaete larvae from plankton samples, with particular interest in > Spionids and Polynoids. I'd greatly appreciate any help you could > provide. > Hello Sean: I don't have a lot of taxonomic references on larval forms. illustrations and descriptions that exist are scattered in the literature. I don't know of anyone locally (my location) that specializes in such identifications. I know this is really what you want but here are several references in the literature that might be of help getting you into library research: Blake, J. A. 1991. Larval development of polychaeta from the northern california coast v. Ramex californiensis Hartman (Polychaeta Terebellidae) Bull Mar Sci (48):448-460. Blake, J. A. 1969. Reproduction and larval development of Polydora from the northern New England (Polychaeta:Spionidae). Ophelia (7)1-63. Hannerz, L. 1956. Larval development of the polychaete families Spionidae Sars, Disomidae Mesnil, and Poecilochaetidae N. Fam. in the Gullmar Fjord (Sweden). Zoologiska bidrag Fran uppsala, Band 31. 204pp. Bye for now, Tom Parker mblcsdla@netcom.com From daemon Fri May 17 15:57:52 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA05740 Message-Id: <199605172257.PAA05740@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 16:34:23 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Kristian Fauchald Subject: Re: Polychaete larval systematics -Reply In addition, if you want to get into it in some detail, look up all the work by D.P. Wilson and R. P. Dales, mostly in JMBA UK from the 1930-s through the 1950's. In addition of course the classic Thorson reference from Danish waters in 1946 is the locus classicus for lots of information. From daemon Fri May 17 15:57:51 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA05742 Message-Id: <199605172257.PAA05742@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 16:31:10 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Kristian Fauchald Subject: Whereabouts Pat Hutchings Greg Rouse -Reply I believe they are both sort of in transit at this point: Pat from Marseille towards home base; Greg is in Norway on his way to Sweden and should be reachable via Fredrik Pleijel's e-mail by the end of next week. From daemon Fri May 17 16:01:51 1996 Return-Path: daemon Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA06110 Message-Id: <199605172301.QAA06110@net.bio.net> To: nobody@net.bio.net X-Really-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 15:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Bruno Pernet Subject: Re: Polychaete larval systematics Sean, In addition to the references already posted, a few more useful ones are the following: Lacalli, T.C. 1980. A guide to the marine flora and fauna of the Bay of Fundy: polychaete larvae from Passamaquoddy Bay. Canadian Technical Report of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences 940:1-27. Bhaud, M. and C. Cazaux. 1987. Description and identification of polychaete larvae: their implications in current biological problems. Oceanis 13(6):596-753. Blake, J. 1975. The larval development of Polychaeta from the northern California coast III. Eighteen species of Errantia. Ophelia 14:23-84. Cazaux, C. 1968. Etude morphologique du devellopement larvaire d'annelides polychetes (Bassin d'Arcachon). I. Aphroditidae, Chrysopetalidae. Arch. Zool. exp. gen. 109:477-543. These are all useful for getting larvae down to family, but unless there are descriptions of larvae available for worms from your region, identifying to species will be pretty hard, at least with the scaleworms. Bruno Pernet pernetb@zoology.washington.edu. From daemon Fri May 17 19:01:58 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA26903 Message-Id: <199605180201.TAA26903@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 16:19:01 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: David Kristofferson Subject: Fix in the ANNELIDA archive regarding "nobody@net.bio.net" Geoff et al., The use of nobody@net.bio.net pertains to the need to hide the real posting address to protect the mailing lists from "spam." We tried several schemes, but all except for this solution wound up putting information that could be hacked somewhere in the mail header (not necessarily on the To: line). My system administrator Dave Mack would have to explain all the technical ins-and-outs of this choice, but please do not try to mail to that address - mail to "nobody" just ends up in the bit bucket, i.e. /dev/null in UNIX-speak. This convention is used on all of our moderated lists, but not on the unmoderated ones. In the mailing list conversion, I unfortunately overlooked a necessary addition to the archiving software, so unfortunately the messages are archived with the nobody@net.bio.net address on the To: line. This has just been fixed (Fri, 5/17, 4:15 PDT). Dave Kristofferson From daemon Sat May 18 03:33:19 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA12308 Message-Id: <199605181033.DAA12308@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 09:22:21 GMT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt Subject: Ochetostoma [Echiura] Dear colleagues, could somebody help me with the year of the description of Ochetostoma barionii Greef and the known distribution of this echiurid worm ? The species is common at Madeira, but it is almost impossible to get literature here. Please reply directly to biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt. Many thanks Peter Wirtz From daemon Mon May 20 14:48:57 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA15273 Message-Id: <199605202148.OAA15273@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 14:57:02 -0500 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Sam James Subject: Re: Vanished earthworm taxonomy At 10:27 AM 5/17/96 +12, you wrote: >Can this be true? > >Quoting from a New Scientist capsule review (p44, Jan96): > >"There are treasures, however, such as the chapter titled >'Forgetting', which shows how some science disciplines simply vanish. >Earthworm taxonomy is his example." > >The book: "Beginning Again: People and Nature in the New Millennum" >[sic], by David Ehrenfeld, OUP. > >Not having seen the book I don't know how he apparently decided the >last word had been said on earthworm relationships. Granted there >aren't that many species, but, to compare with the ultimate, human >taxonomy is a rather lively field at the moment. And would I be >incorrect in assuming there were never vast numbers of practitioners >in the field (literally!) anyway? > >-- >Geoff Read As one of the people mentioned in the book (and in an excerpt I actually read) in connection with earthworm taxonomy, I can make two statements relevant to this thread: 1) The Golden Age of EW taxonomy was probably 1880-1930, and since then there have never been more than a handful of active researchers worldwide at any one time, the present included; 2) It did not appear that the author intended to say that the last word had been uttered because the job was done, only that the subject was in danger of collapse due to lack of participants. The study of earthworm relationships has not really made any progress in the last 60 years, with a few exceptions due to the work of Jamieson. In general, the point seemed to be that expertise on many obscure and not-so-obscure groups of organisms and other categories of knowledge is endangered. Since I am not in a position from which I can train my successor(s), I tend to agree. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Sam James ~ ~ Dept. of Biology ~ ~ Maharishi Univ. of Mgmt. ~ ~ Fairfield, IA 52557 ~ ~ sjames@mum.edu ~ ~ 515-472-1146 ~ ~ Systematics and Ecology ~ ~ of Earthworms ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From daemon Mon May 20 20:07:47 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA15641 Message-Id: <199605210307.UAA15641@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 22:49:21 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: rolfp@clemson.edu (Rolf Parker) Subject: cool storage of live planaria Does anyone know how long one can keep terrestrial flatworms in the fridge? I finally have a specimen (Bipalium kewense) but I can not use it at this time (my thesis is screaming). I have bad luck keeping them alive for any extended period of time, even using the methods outlined in the Manual for Psychological Experimentation on Planaria, published by worm runners. So I hoped that I might be able to pop him in the fridge. I have done this in the past and pulled worms out after several days. Can I get away with more? Rolf Parker (rolfp@clemson.edu) Clemson University, Long Hall, Entomology Dept, Clemson, South Carolina, 29634 From daemon Tue May 21 03:34:59 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA22413 Message-Id: <199605211034.DAA22413@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 10:55:12 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Lennart Gidholm Subject: Re: Ask about Spionidae larvae Vadim Khaitov wrote: >Hello colleagues! >Has anybody tried to maintain planctotrophic larvae of Spionidae? >The problem is how to avoid bacterial sheet on mud in experimental dishes. >I am trying to investigate metamorphosis and settlement. >If there is anybody who studies the same question or knows any solution my >problem >answer me please. >Thanks. Dear Vadim, Lennart Hannerz cultured spionid larvae with varying success some 40 years ago. You can get some ideas from Material and Methods, pp5-6, in : Hannerz, L. 1956. Larval development of the polychaete families Spionidae Sars, Disomidae Mesnil, and Poecilochaetidae N. Fam. in the Gullmar Fjord . Zoologiska bidrag Fran uppsala, Band 31. 204pp. His ingenious apparatus, the "hannoplask", is useful for many other small animals: Hannerz, L. 1953. A simple apparatus for producing weak water-currents in culture dishes. Oikos, 4 (2): 148-150. Good luck Lennart Lennart Gidholm, Departm of Biology /IFM), Linksping University, S-58183 Linksping, Sweden Phone 013-282612, Fax 013-282611, E-mail leg@ifm.liu.se From daemon Thu May 23 18:03:25 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA06961 Message-Id: <199605240103.SAA06961@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 16:47:00 +0000 Subject: Report: Biological Invasions of San Francisco Bay -Forwarded from another list. GBR. ------- Forwarded Message to Annelida Follows ------- From: "Eleanor S. Uhlinger" To: iamslic@UCSD.EDU Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 16:32:20 +0000 Subject: NTIS Order Number for the S.F. Bay/Delta Study The following is a new report of interest to many, plus availability/ordering info: Andrew N. Cohen and James T. Carlton. 1995. Biological Study: Nonindigenous Aquatic Species in a United States Estuary: A Case Study of the Biological Invasions of the San Francisco Bay and Delta. A Report for the United States Fish And Wildlife Service, Washington D. C. and the National Sea Grant College Program, Connecticut Sea Grant (NOAA Grant Number NA36RG0467). AVAILABLE FROM NTIS (NATIONAL TECHNICAL INFORMATION SERVICE) Order phone in the US:703-487-4650 Order number PB96-166525 Cost $49.00 (in the US) From daemon Fri May 24 01:46:18 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA19428 Message-Id: <199605240846.BAA19428@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 23 May 96 20:57:37 +0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Vadim M. Khaitov" Subject: What is settlement? Hello, colleagues! There is such a phrase in number of articles as 'mechanism of settlement' or similar one. Let's discuss what is phenomena of settlement. What do we understand under this concept? Vadim Khaitov. (polydora@vmk.stud.pu.ru) From daemon Fri May 24 15:04:38 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA22625 Message-Id: <199605242204.PAA22625@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:39:20 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Anthony Grehan, Zoology Dept, MRI, UCG" Subject: Re: Polychaete larval systematics > Dear Annelidians > > I am looking for reference material for the identification of > polychaete larvae from plankton samples, with particular interest in > Spionids and Polynoids. I'd greatly appreciate any help you could > provide. > > Thanks...Sean Handley Dear Sean, The following reference may be of help: Description and identification of polychaete larvae; their implications in current biological problems. M. Bhaud (ed.). Oceanis 13:596-753 (1987). You could also try to contact M. Bhaud directly, I think his e-mail is: Cheers, Anthony Grehan ************************************************************************** Dr. Anthony J. Grehan, * Tel: +353 91 524411 Ext. 3235 Zoology Department, * Fax: +353 91 525005 Martin Ryan Marine Institute, * University College, Galway, * Anthony.Grehan@ucg.ie Ireland. * ************************************************************************** From daemon Fri May 24 15:25:45 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA24366 Message-Id: <199605242225.PAA24366@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Marine Biology Laboratory Subject: Eumida mucus Dear Worm people: During a recent SCAMIT meeting on Eumida (phyllodocids) there was some discussion of their large dorsal cirri. The point was made that these cirri are not constructed as true branchia (with vessels) to facilitate respiration, but are instead embedded with numerous mucus-secreting glands. Heavy mucus production is a common live condition of these (and some other) phyllodocids with large dorsal cirri. I have several questions about this and possibly readers of this mailing might have data on dorsal cirri/mucous function. Why do these worms need so much mucus? Can it be predator protection? Protection from physical damage from sediments? Could the mucus serve to improve respiration at the body wall? If so, could phyllodocid body pigments have either a respiratory exchange or storage function? Any info along these lines would be appreciated. P.S. I don't know about anybody else, but if I had major body surfaces dedicated to mucus production I'd have a hard time breathing! Bye, Tom Parker Marine Biology Laboratory LACSD mblcsdla@netcom.com From daemon Sat May 25 12:22:04 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA14248 Message-Id: <199605251922.MAA14248@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 12:39:10 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Cutlereb@aol.com Subject: MOLECULES & DERIVED TAXA Dear seekers after Truth (truths?), Today I find myself agreeing with Kirk F. - I think. My concern in this regard comes from the unfortunate fact that the most easily obtained Sipuncula are: In Europe - Sipunculus nudus / On the eastern U.S. coast - Phascolopsis gouldii. Any biologist ordering from a biological supply house is likely to get one of these two (our west coast Themiste is also a 'young' genus). The physiology/biochemisty literature - and molecular phylogeny - is based largely on these two Very Derived taxa (see pp. 233-235 in Cutler 1994). Also, I strongly agree with the 'synthetic' approach to resolving phylogenetic questions having based my conclusions on embryological, karyological, zoogeographical, biochemical, immunological, .... data. However, I do have hopes that in the near future persons working with molecular approachs will test my hypotheses and confirm OR modify/correct my efforts. Perhaps I too need to clarify one point - I respect the efforts made by Greg & Kris and was interested in generating some dialogue about what I consider to be an important contribution - I fully expect/hope there will be more grist for our mental mills in coming months. Ed Cutler From daemon Wed May 29 02:52:35 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA29850 Message-Id: <199605290952.CAA29850@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 21:31:51 +0000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Geoff Read Subject: New phylogeny Two recent papers of interest: Pleijel, F; Eide, R (1996): The phylogeny of Ophryotrocha (Dorvilleidae: Eunicida: Polychaeta). J. Nat. Hist. 30(5), 647-659. Abstract: The phylogeny of 20 cultured species of Ophryotrocha, including a group of sibling species that can only be identified by biochemical or reproductive information, is estimated from a combined parsimony analysis of 32 morphological, reproductive and electrophoretic characters, with selected members of Dorvillea, Ougia and Protodorvillea used as outgroups. Sexual production in the group include simultaneous hermaphroditism, protandrous sex reversal, an exceptional male/ hermaphrodite system, and gonochorism. According to the presented phylogeny, simultaneous hermaphroditism appears as the primitive state in the group. It is suggested that sequential hermaphroditism and gonochorism are independently acquired, the latter state also giving rise to the male/hermaphrodite system. Nielsen, Claus; Scharff, Nikolaj; Eibye-Jacobsen, Danny (1996): Cladistic analyses of the animal kingdom. Biological Journal of the Linnean Society 57, 385-410. Abstract: A recently published book on the phylogeny of the animal Kingdom [Nielsen, 1995] provided a classification based on a 'manual' cladistic analysis at the phylum level. We have extracted a data matrix consisting of 61 characters from 32 phyla from this book and treated it in more formal analyses using three different parsimony programs. Following a posteriori weighting, one cladogram emerged as the most parsimonious explanation of the data. This cladogram is compared to those in recent publications. Congruence is greatest with the phylogeny published by the first author, as the monophyly of 18 of the 21 supraphyletic categories proposed therein are supported in our cladogram. The exceptions are Aschelminthes, Protornaeozoa and Neorenalia [Deuterostomes], but the latter group does emerge as a monophyletic taxon in a number of equally parsimonious, equally weighted trees. Comparisons with other recent phylogenies show varying degrees of divergence, especially concerning the monophyly of Spiralia and Articulata [here including molluscs], both of which are advocated in the present paper. Significant characters of most of the supraphyletic taxa proposed by the first author are discussed. From daemon Wed May 29 15:09:46 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA15425 Message-Id: <199605292209.PAA15425@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Fournier, Judith" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: FW: Vanished earthworm taxonomy [ISBNs] Date: Wed, 29 May 96 12:30:00 PDT ---------- From: Fournier, Judith To: Adrenalized Megadeth Subject: Re: Vanished earthworm taxonomy Date: Wednesday, May 29, 1996 12:14PM Dear Dr. Samanya They are: Nomemclatura Oligochaetologica: ISBN 0-920114-01-6 N. O. Supplementum Primum: ISBN 0-9690911-0-9 N. O. Supplementum Secundum: ISBN 0-919326-19-6 N. O. Supplementum Tertium: ISBN 0-9690911-1-7 ---------- From: Adrenalized Megadeth To: Fournier, Judith Subject: Re: Vanished earthworm taxonomy Date: Wednesday, May 29, 1996 4:37PM On Mon, 20 May 1996, Fournier, Judith wrote: > I recommend the "Nomenclatura Oligochaetologica" and its first 3 supplements > by Reynolds, J. W . and Cook, D. G. (1976, 1981, 1989, 1992) published by > the University of New Brunswick Press. These volumes cover all the Could you be so kind as to provide the ISBNs, please? ranan samanya Internet ranan.samanya@rug.ac.be FIDONet 2:292/880.5 http://studwww.rug.ac.be/~rsamanya Team OS/2 From daemon Wed May 29 15:16:00 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA16084 Message-Id: <199605292216.PAA16084@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Fournier, Judith" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Temporary Closure of Collections, Canadian Museum of Nature Date: Wed, 29 May 96 12:25:00 PDT AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE / UN MESSAGE IMPORTANT Temporary Closure of / Fermeture temporaire des Invertebrate Collections / collections d'invertebres Canadian Museum of Nature / Musee canadien de la nature ________________________________________________________________ Dear Colleagues, The Canadian Museum of Nature is building a new facility to house all its collections and to consolidate most of our activities in one location. Staff and collections are scheduled to begin moving in the late summer and will continue throughout the fall of 1996. The staff in the Collection Division will be working hard over the coming months preparing the millions of specimens and other objects in our collections for a safe move to the new building. Once moved, staff will be fully engaged in unpacking the collections. We will try to continue serving the users of our collections, if possible, but large parts of the collections will be relatively inaccessible for several months. The following closure schedule applies for our Invertebrate collections: closes reopens Entomology 1 Sept. 1996 1 Feb. 1997 All other Inverts. 1 May 1996 1 Feb. 1997 We wish to minimize the risk of damaged or lost specimens and other collection objects during the move. This is also true for borrowed material that may be returned to the Museum while the collections are being packed, moved or unpacked. Please contact us before sending any collection material back. If you must absolutely borrow specimens or obtain collection data from us during this period, special arrangements may be possible but we cannot provide any guarantee. Thank you for your understanding. We look forward to being able to continue to serve you from our new home. ______________________________________________________________ Cher(e)s colleques, Le Musee canadien de la nature s affaire a construire un nouvel edifice pour loger toutes ses collections et concentrer la majeure partie de ses activites. Le demenagement du personnel et des collections commencera a la fin de l'ete et se poursuivra pendant l'automne de 1996. Le personnel de la division des collections travaillera avec ardeur, au cours des prochains mois, pour preparer les millions de specimens et autres articles de collection pour le demenagement au nouvel edifice. Apres ce demenagement, les employes devront deballer les collections. Nous essaierons de continuer a servir le mieux possible les utilisateurs de nos collections, mais une grande partie restera inaccessible pendant de nombreux mois. L horaire de fermeture des collections d invertebres est comme suit: fermera reouvrira Entomologie 1 sept. 1996 1 fev. 1997 Autres collections 1 mai 1996 1 fev. 1997 Nous desirons prevenir le risque de domage ou de perte de specimens et autres articles de collections pendant le demenagement. Cela s'applique aussi aux articles empruntes qui seront rapportes au Musee pendant l'emballage, le demenagement ou le deballage. Veuillez nous contacter avant de retourner du materiel de collection emprunte. Si vous devez absolument emprunte des specimens ou obtenir des donnees de collection de notre part durant cette periode, certains arrangements pourront etre faits mais nous ne pouvons le garantir. Merci de votre comprehension. Nous serons heureux de continuer a vous servir dans notre nouvel edifice. _______________________________________________________________ Collection Division Canadian Museum of Nature P.O. Box 3443, Station D Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1P 1P6 e-mail: cmncoll@mus.nature.ca From daemon Fri May 31 20:11:08 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA09893 Message-Id: <199606010311.UAA09893@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:03:20 +0000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Geoff Read Subject: Papers from Hydrothermal book This book is new to me, but, no doubt, not to all :-) I gather it arose out of a 1993 workshop (Big Sky). Humphris, Susan E; Zierenberg, Robert A; Mulineaux, Lauren S; Thomson, Richard E (Eds.) (1995): Seafloor Hydrothermal Systems: Physical, Chemical, Biological, and Geological Interactions. (Geophysical Monograph, 91.) American Geophysical Union, Washington. (ISBN 0-87590-048-8) Amongst others includes the more obviously relevant to Annelida of: Hessler,Robert R; Kaharl, Victoria (1995): The deep-sea hydrothermal vent community: an overview. p72-. Juniper,S Kim; Sarrazin, Jozee (1995): Interaction of Vent Biota and Hydrothermal Deposits: Present evidence and Future Experimentation. p178-. Mullineaux,Lauren S; France,Scott C (1995): Dispersal mechanisms of Deep-Sea Hydrothermal Vent Fauna. p408-. -- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html (has replaced) => http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/chaeto/index.html