From daemon Wed Jul 3 13:56:52 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA20409 Message-Id: <199607032056.NAA20409@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:29:51 +0000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: p.j.w.olive@ncl.ac.uk Subject: Computer based expert system Polychaeta Message from Peter Olive Reply to p.j.miller@ncl.ac.uk An ex-student of mine is working in a computer lab and is proposing to develop an expert system for the identification of Polychaeta. He wants to know if such things have been done before. He therefore writes: I would be most greatful if anyone who has any information on the use of a computer to aid in this or other types of animal identification, could please get in touch. In addition, if anyone knows of anything that might assist me in writing such an expert system program for this particular purpose, I would again be very greatful if they share it with me. thanks Paul Miller -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Jul 3 18:34:38 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA19412 Message-Id: <199607040134.SAA19412@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:12:00 +1200 (NZST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Geoff Read Subject: Re: Computer based expert system Polychaeta Pierre Chevaldonne wrote: > Wasn't there something like that presented at the 4th International > Polychete Conference? I don't have the info handy, but I would suggest that > you take a look at the proceedings of that 1992 conference. > Annelida subscribers can probably confirm or infirm this info. Good luck. Pierre may be remembering this proceedings abstract. It's not immediately evident from the very short abstract if the program does any more than key the families. AU Jussien, N., V. Verger, P. Gillet and Y. L'Hospitalier. PY 1994 TI The expert system "Nereis" for polychaetous annelids from France. SO Memoires du Museum National d'Histoire Naturelle 162: 627. The original questioner asked if such things as polychaete expert systems have been done before. So what definition of expert system is he using? If not that of a computer scientist there are several programs already available which will construct keys from data and run interactively. Those based on the Delta method of descriptions for example. No polychaete datasets are publicly available or imminent yet though others will know more about that than I. Personally I would suggest effort into taxonomy rather than expert systems is what will advance knowledge and ease of identification of Polychaeta, but I'm also very keen on computerisation of the miscellaneous drudge, record-keeping and analytical tasks that get taxonomy done and get it done rigorously. -- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html From daemon Thu Jul 4 03:37:56 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA03261 Message-Id: <199607041037.DAA03261@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:07:45 MST Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Helmut Zibrowius Subject: Re: Computer based expert systems - belief in miracles On Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:12:00 +1200 (NZS, Geoff Read wrote: >Personally I would suggest effort into taxonomy rather than expert systems >is what will advance knowledge and ease of identification of Polychaeta ... A very pertinent and realistic advice from Geoff (only too moderately formulated). Computer based expert systems germinating everywhere, but largely perpetuating outdated fuss. - Such projects will make more sense as the final stage after true, experienced and still brained human experts have put together large representative revisions and monographs. But that's less fashionable... ----------------------------------- Helmut ZIBROWIUS (Centre d'Oceanologie de Marseille) Station Marine d'Endoume Rue Batterie des Lions 13007 Marseille / France TEL: (intern. - 33) 9 1 0 4 1 6 2 4 FAX: (intern. - 33) 9 1 0 4 1 6 3 5 E-MAIL: ----------------------------------- = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu Jul 4 15:19:00 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA10578 Message-Id: <199607042219.PAA10578@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:08:48 +1100 (EETDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Robin Wilson Subject: Re: Computer based expert system Polychaeta The recent little flurry of comment on computer based identification systems for polychaetes is based on a very vague initial query. It is not clear to me if the original questioner wants to develop new software or if he/she wants to use existing software to ease polychaete identifications. Whichever is the case, a good starting point is the DELTA (= DEscriptive Language for TAxonomy) home page at http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/delta/ Anyone contemplating development of new software would do well to investigate what the DELTA team has accomplished over many years. At the very least, the DELTA standard data format should be supported by any taxonomic database/intelligent system. There are other taxonomic database and identification systems out there (try net searches on ALICE and PANDORA in the U.K, for example), but I think most support the DELTA format for data files. On the polychaete front, and in response to what Geoff Read wrote: ... > based on the Delta method of descriptions for example. No polychaete > datasets are publicly available or imminent yet though others will know > more about that than I. ... Well, I have some polychaete DELTA datasets in development. They are not publicly available yet, but I like to think they are imminent! At present I have about 12 polychaete families in various stages of completion, and more underway. My project intends to complete these DELTA databases for soft-bottom benthic polychaetes from SE-Australia, with 2 goals: 1. to document taxa accurately from various environmental surveys 2. to facilitate accurate identifications in the future The initial target audience is taxonomists and ecologists working with polychaetes in southern Australia, but maybe others will find it useful also, notably taxonomists doing global revisions who are looking for summary information about the southern Australian fauna for inclusion in revisions (I hope). I have broached this subject on the list before, but I will say again that I hope the polychaete community out there will be able to make some critical and constructive comments as I am able to make databases available (family by family). And I hasten to add to those who have already expressed an interest, please be patient, I haven't forgotten! I also wanted to comment briefly on the very pertinent words of wisdom from Geoff and Helmut, to the effect that what is needed first are good taxonomic revisions rather than new computer toys. Although this is partly true, the two goals are complementary, they are NOT in conflict. I use DELTA because it vastly simplifies taxonomic work, it forces me to be more rigorous (not skipping characters, won't let me get away with taxa that cannot be separated!), and it makes the results of that work much more useful (I hope!). The huge benefits to users should be the ability to have multiple starting points in an electronic key when making identifications, and having all important information handy (like character state glossaries etc). And it is easy to make a paper (or html) version for those who want it. I know I sound like an evangelist, but when you see a good thing ... You can expect to hear from me again on this (in about a month), when I have finished incorporating images into the first databases and have talked to my museum's computer people about making files available for downloading. bye Robin _____________________________________________________________________ Robin Wilson rwilson@mov.vic.gov.au Museum of Victoria 71 Victoria Crescent telephone 61-3 9284 0216 Abbotsford Victoria fax 61-3 9416 0475 Australia 3067 _____________________________________________________________________ From daemon Thu Jul 4 16:13:09 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA13846 Message-Id: <199607042313.QAA13846@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Petersen, Mary E. {ZMUC}" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Re: DELTA datasets for SE Australian Polychaeta Date: Fri, 05 Jul 96 00:46:00 DST Friday, 5 July 1996 Robin Wilson just wrote: >Well, I have some polychaete DELTA datasets in development. They are not >publicly available yet, but I like to think they are imminent! At >present I have about 12 polychaete families in various stages of >completion, and more underway. My project intends to complete >these DELTA databases for soft-bottom benthic polychaetes from >SE-Australia, with 2 goals: >1. to document taxa accurately from various environmental surveys >2. to facilitate accurate identifications in the future Robin, are you ready to tell us which families you are working on, and the approximate number of taxa (genera and species) in each of them? Mary ------ Mary E. Petersen Zoological Museum, University of Copenhagen Universitetsparken 15, DK-2100 Copenhagen O, Denmark Tel +45-35 32 10 67 --- Fax +45-35 32 10 10 E-mail mepetersen@zmuc.ku.dk ------------------------------------------------- From daemon Thu Jul 4 21:05:08 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA03380 Message-Id: <199607050405.VAA03380@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:52:21 +1100 (EETDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Robin Wilson Subject: Re: DELTA datasets for SE Australian Polychaeta On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Petersen, Mary E. {ZMUC} wrote: ... > Robin, are you ready to tell us which families you are working on, and the > approximate number of taxa (genera and species) in each of them? > > Mary > ------ > Mary E. Petersen > Zoological Museum, University of Copenhagen ... Mary, and others, Yes, of course, I should mention what families were first up (in no particular order): Syllidae, Sabellidae, Paraonidae, Capitellidae, Maldanidae, Glyceridae, Phyllodocidae, Orbiniidae, Hesionidae. The reason for such a hotch-potch is that priorities have been dictated by a variety of factors, none of which is phylogeny! Level of treatment, and the likely usefullness of these databases beyond southern Australia varies considerably. For example, the Sabellidae, Maldanidae, Orbiniidae and Phyllodocidae databases should be useful at generic level globally. Some others, notably Syllidae and Hesionidae at present, avoid the genus level entirely and merely attempt to distinguish syllid 1 - syllid n as species without worrying too much about generic placement. Mostly I have incorporated stable generic revisions where they are available, so that the Sabellidae database closely matches Kirk Fitzhugh's revision, as does the Phyllodocidae with Fredrik Pleijel's work. Remember everyone that the clients are those doing routine identifications of benthic collections in southern Australia; accurate generic placement of species is at present an optional extra. When the databases are ready for distribution I will write a "readme" file to accompay them which explains the goals and failings of the project in more detail. Anyway, enough for now. bye Robin _____________________________________________________________________ Robin Wilson rwilson@mov.vic.gov.au Museum of Victoria 71 Victoria Crescent telephone 61-3 9284 0216 Abbotsford Victoria fax 61-3 9416 0475 Australia 3067 _____________________________________________________________________ From daemon Fri Jul 5 03:04:36 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA13992 Message-Id: <199607051004.DAA13992@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 06:26:49 GMT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Hans Hillewaert Subject: Re: Computer based expert system Polychaeta On the ICES Benthos Ecology Working group in Aberdeen recently, I demonstrated a technique for using existing identification keys on an Internet website. Pictures and text are scanned and the text is subsequently converted with Optical Character Recognition. HTML (hypertext markup language) code is added to provide links between several parts of the key and the pictures. This technique is fairly easy and could be use to produce new keys quickly or to provide easily accessible updates to existing keys. An example for the Pandalidae (Crustacea) of the North Sea can be found on: http://uc2.unicall.be/RVZ/Pandalus/PandalusIdentificationKey.html Sincerely Hans J.J.F. Hillewaert ___________________________________ hhillewaert@unicall.be http://uc2.unicall.be/RVZ http://uc2.unicall.be/izwo http://www.angelfire.com/free/Zambia.html tel work: +32 (059) 320805 [8am-5pm] tel home: +32 (059) 238471 Fisheries Research Station Ankerstraat 1 B-8400 Oostende Belgium ___________________________________ From daemon Fri Jul 5 16:08:33 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA08003 Message-Id: <199607052308.QAA08003@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Jim Culter Subject: Re: Computer based expert system Polychaeta There have been a number of responses suggesting a look at DELTA, developed by the Australians, but you may also want to inquire about the Linneaus II software from University of Amsterdam, e-mail: info@eti.bio.uva.nl with the FTP site: eti.bio.uva.nl Good Luck, Jim Culter jculter@marinelab.sarasota.fl.us Mote Marine Laboratory voice (813) 388-4441 1600 Thompson Parkway fax (813) 388-4312 Sarasota, FL 34236 MML is an independent not-for-profit marine/estuarine research and education laboratory. All opinions herein are my own (not MML policy) unless noted as otherwise. Invertebrates rule! FOR MORE ABOUT MML SEE: http://www.marinelab.sarasota.fl.us./RESEAR07.HTM (case sensitive) On Wed, 3 Jul 1996 p.j.w.olive@ncl.ac.uk wrote: > Message from Peter Olive > Reply to p.j.miller@ncl.ac.uk > > An ex-student of mine is working in a computer lab and is proposing to > develop an expert system for the identification of Polychaeta. [...] From daemon Mon Jul 8 20:15:09 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA06374 Message-Id: <199607090315.UAA06374@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:52:26 +12 Subject: Cornell Annelida Resources Web pages will be moving Hello folks, I have recently been advised that the Biodiversity and Biological Collections Web pages currently at the Cornell site http://muse.bio.cornell.edu will be moving, together with the MUSE project, to a new home at the University of Kansas Natural History Museum. The latest news is that the move will be this coming weekend of July 13-14. The server will be offline from July 12-15. The new address will be http://www.keil.ukans.edu/. Our annelid resources pages, which are hosted by courtesy of Julian Humphries and Muse, will be transferred also, and I'm hoping the transition will be a painless one. I will post again when I know the exact new URL the annelid pages will have and have tested them. At best guess it may be http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html but I can't say for sure yet. I have some more new material and hope to have it up very shortly. By the way I would strongly suggest to those still without web access that they should do something about it real soon if possible. Regards to you all, Geoff -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html (moving soon to => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/ ANNELIDA mailing list => annelida@net.bio.net & biosci-server@net.bio.net From daemon Tue Jul 9 14:51:09 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA07947 Message-Id: <199607092151.OAA07947@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:21:33 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Torkild Bakken Subject: Nereidae vs. Nereididae It has been brought to my knowledge that a few months ago (February/March ?) someone asked for information concerning the family names Nereidae versus Nereididae on Annelida net. The name Nereididae showed up in Dr. Marian Pettibones article from 1971: "Revision of some species referred to Leptonereis, Nicon, and Laonereis (Polychaeta: Nereididae)". I have not seen Nereididae used before it showed up in her article. I am very interested in the "problem" so if those who sent that previous request could get in contact with me, or anyone else could give me some information, I would be very grateful. Thanks. Sincerely Torkild Bakken ***************************************************************************** Torkild Bakken Tlf.: +47 73 59 14 89 MSc stud. Systematics on Fax.: +47 73 59 15 97 Nereidae and Sphaerodoridae E-mail: torkildb@james.stud.unit.no (Polychaeta) Trondhjem Biological Station Bynesvn. 46 N-7018 Trondheim Norway ***************************************************************************** From daemon Tue Jul 9 22:24:58 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA19015 Message-Id: <199607100524.WAA19015@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 20:12:02 -0800 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Aaron Baldwin Subject: Polychaete ecology (Again) Hello All, I posted a request for information on polychaete ecology several weeks ago. Unfortunately, a few days afterwards our mail server went down for a few weeks, and in the meantime my mailbox filled up and exploded, so I lost everything. If anyone replied to me specifically, and I didn't reply, please retry. I promise to respond back. A synopsis: I am looking for information on the ecology of Alaskan polychaetes. Specifically, Mediomastus californiensis (Capitellidae), Myriochele oculata (Oweniidae), Glycera cf. tenuis (Glyceridae), Prionospio steenstrupi (Spionidae), Nephtys cornuta (Nephtyidae), Lumbrineris luti (Lumbrineridae), Tenonia priops (Polynoidae), Polydora cardalia (Spionidae), Magelona berkeleyi (Magelonidae), and Nephtys caeca (Nephtyidae). If this list differs from my original, it is probably because our "top ten" list is changing and the fact that I left my data sheets at work, so this is off of the top of my head. We are also reaching a point in the study where I need to start putting names on all of our species. I am doing okay (using Washington state, British Columbia, and Eastern USSR keys) with the very large and some of the very small (small enough to mash under a cover slip). The problem lies with the in-betweens. Too small to remove the uncinii and too large to put the whole thing on a slide. Are there any keys to NE Pacific polychaetes that would utilize some other characteristics that would be more obvious? For example, we are getting this little Polydora (under 5 mm). I cannot find a way to remove the uncinii from the 5th setiger. However, it is white with a row of tiny black dots that nearly encircle every setiger. This feature would seem to be fairly unique, and just might id it to species with any micro-dissection. Either that or I would appreciate any tips on micro-dissection of the "in-between" worms. Thanks, Aaron Baldwin From daemon Wed Jul 10 01:34:28 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA02377 Message-Id: <199607100834.BAA02377@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 09:10:06 GMT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: aim@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: Nereidae vs. Nereididae On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:21:33 +0200, Torkild Bakken writes: > >It has been brought to my knowledge that a few months ago (February/March >?) someone asked for information concerning the family names Nereidae >versus Nereididae on Annelida net. That first message came from mcamargo@aica.cem.ufpr.br on Sunday the 17th. of December last year. >I am very interested in the "problem" so if those who sent that previous >request could get in contact with me, or anyone else could give me some >information, I would be very grateful. I sent the following reply to M.G. de Camargo, but not to the whole discussion group: "When the Americans first started putting Nereis in the Nereididae rather than the Nereidae, I decided to check it out. I found that, in Greek mythology, Nereis was one of the Nereides - the 50 sea-nymph daughters of Nereus (a god of the sea) and his wife Doris. The generic name Nereis is therefore obviously feminine, but not being a Greek scholar I could not work out the termination of the grammatical stem for use in forming derivatives (see page 223 of the 1985 edition of the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature). I therefore spoke to Mr. Melville (then Secretary to the ICZN), who assured me that under the circumstances NEREIDIDAE is the correct spelling for the family name. I hope this helps!" ----------------------------------------------------------- Mr. A.I. Muir, Marine Biological Services Division, Department of Zoology, Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, South Kensington, LONDON SW7 5BD UNITED KINGDOM Tel: +44 (0) 171 938 9298 Fax: +44 (0) 171 938 9158 From daemon Wed Jul 10 15:20:38 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA00738 Message-Id: <199607102220.PAA00738@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Chris Glasby" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: N I W A Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:57:35 +13 Subject: Re: Nereidae vs. Nereididae Following on from Alex Muir's eloquent explanation of why Nereididae is to be preferred over Nereidae, how should we refer to the group in an informal way, nereidids or nereids? In speech at least the former sounds like you have a stutter, whilst anybody who knows polychaetes will understand what is meant if you say nereids. In scientific writing the the issue is not so clear in my mind. The ICZN (1985) appears not to cover the formation of informal names from formal family-group names (but I may be wrong). Is it the unwritten rule that informal names are formed by dropping the family -AE ending and adding an 's' - in which case nereidids would be correct. I personally favour nereids for both the spoken and written word (as being more parsimonious(;-)), but I am sure some editors would object. Also if anyone has an opinion on the correct spelling of the adjectival use of the family (and subfamily) names. Is it for example, nereidin species or nereidine species (or nereididin or nereididine .... arrrrhhhhhg)? Chris Chris Glasby, Marine Taxonomy, NIWA - Greta Point, PO Box 14-901, Kilbirnie, Wellington, New Zealand email: c.glasby@niwa.cri.nz phone: 64-4-386 0352 fax: 64-4-386 2153 From daemon Wed Jul 10 17:32:46 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA13492 Message-Id: <199607110032.RAA13492@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Swindlehurst, Robert" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Rearing marine worms Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:50:00 +1000 Dear All As Aquaculture Development Officer for the Queensland Department of Primary Industries in Australia I have received a small number of enquiries about the culture of marine worms. There is a small local bait fishery for the eunicid worm Marphysa sanguinea, know as the 'blood' or 'mud' worm. It is found in a variety of habitats including: muddy sand, oyster banks. under rocks and in sponges. In estuarine areas it inhabits the beds of seagrass (Zostera and Halophila species) and is found at sediment depths of 30-50 cm. I would appreciate any biological or technical and culture information any subscribers may be able to provide or point to. I have already emailed Peter Olive in the UK with the same request. Thanks Robert Swindlehurst -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html (moving soon to => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/ -- From daemon Wed Jul 10 19:20:54 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA22305 Message-Id: <199607110220.TAA22305@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:06:56 -0800 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Aaron Baldwin Organization: Emperor of the Known Universe Subject: Today's message- Tenonia priops (Polynoidae) Dear All, Today at work I was keying out a very small (usually under 5mm) polynoid. I had keyed it before as Tenonia priops, but thought I would take another look at it (I am going to eventually re-confirm all of my id's). It still, mounted under high power, keyed out to Tenonia. The key feature is "Neurosetae the same thickness as Notosetae". But one thing I did notice is that the borders of the elytra had long, papillated tubercules. Is this typical of Tenonia? This feature is noted in the next couplet, had I chosen choice two. I would greatly appreciate a quick short description of Tenonia, if someone has such a thing. Thank you- Aaron Aaron Baldwin From daemon Wed Jul 10 20:31:53 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA28361 Message-Id: <199607110331.UAA28361@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:27:40 +12 Subject: Re: Nereidae vs. Nereididae Alex Muir wrote: > That first message came from mcamargo@aica.cem.ufpr.br on Sunday the 17th. > of December last year. I would just add that old messages are always available in a searchable archive at http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/. So even if your e-mail box fills up and explodes (a slight exaggeration I hope ;-)) recovery of the past public messages is possible. [...] > I therefore spoke to Mr. Melville (then Secretary to the ICZN), > who assured me that under the circumstances NEREIDIDAE is the > correct spelling for the family name. Chambers and Garwood (1992 p.1) in a paper on Scottish nereids specifically elected to continue with Nereidae and not Nereididae *in anticipation* of the ICZN proposal to amend article 29b(i). Now the June 1995 draft of the fourth edition of the code says under article 29d "if a spelling of a family-group name ... has won general acceptance before 1997 that spelling is to be maintained, whether or not it is the original spelling and whether or not its derivation ... is in accordance with the grammatical procedures [of article 29]." Has Nereididae now won general acceptance? I don't think so (viz. Fauchald 1977 ?). Therefore the case will/could be referred to the Commission for a ruling (groan!). However, at the moment that doesn't matter as "the discussion draft is under no circumstances to be used as a set of rules." ;-) The current situation is that the new zoological code (probably somewhat more conservative than the draft) is expected to come into force on 1 January 1999 (fide public e-mail from Pres. ICZN). For less formal namings we might take a cue from the original Pettibone (1971) paper and stick to nereids and for that matter heteronereids. What happened in Pholoidae/Pholoididae of which the former is current I believe? (I'm too busy/lazy to look it up!) Before anyone else says it -- yes this sort of thing does tend to make people wonder whether taxonomists have got their priorities right (pun intended). It's a thankless task but someone has to do it! Geoff -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources => http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html (moving soon to => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/ ANNELIDA mailing list => annelida@net.bio.net & biosci-server@net.bio.net From daemon Wed Jul 10 20:34:03 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA28531 Message-Id: <199607110334.UAA28531@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:37:04 -0500 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: keith.probert@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Keith Probert) Subject: Slides of polychaetes Dear Colleagues, Does anyone have for sale, or know where I might purchase, high quality colour transparencies of polychaetes that could be used for teaching purposes? I would find it very useful to have photos representating major families, particularly some of the more infaunal families (as the few slides I have are mainly of epibenthic species). The photos would be used solely for teaching purposes and would not be reproduced. If anyone is able to help directly, or point me in the right direction, I'd be most grateful. At the First Polychaete Conference in Sydney there were some superb slides available and I've ever since regretted not buying the set! I believe they were produced by Kathie Atkinson Productions but I've had no luck in tracking them down. Does anyone know if they are still available? Thanks, Keith Probert __________________________________________________ Keith Probert Department of Marine Science University of Otago PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand Phone: (03) 478 1812 or 479 7465 Fax: (03) 478 1825 or 479 8336 Email: keith.probert@stonebow.otago.ac.nz __________________________________________________ From daemon Thu Jul 11 02:30:37 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA01976 Message-Id: <199607110930.CAA01976@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:52:26 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Francois H. Lallier" Subject: Re: Nereidae vs. Nereididae >Also if anyone has an opinion on the correct spelling of the >adjectival use of the family (and subfamily) names. Is it for >example, nereidin species or nereidine species (or nereididin or >nereididine .... arrrrhhhhhg)? > >Chris > >Chris Glasby, Marine Taxonomy, NIWA - Greta Point, PO Box 14-901, Well, try "species of nereids" (or nereidids). I would add that in french, we usually just remove the "a" from and add an "s" to the latin suffix to form common family names: Nereidae -> nereides And until the new ICZN comes out, I'll vote for simplicity and continue to ignore Nereididae and nereidids. Francois Lallier +--------------------------------------------------+ | ~~ E C O P H Y S I O L O G I E ~~ |+ | STATION BIOLOGIQUE BP74 TEL (33) 98 29 23 11 || |29682 ROSCOFF CEDEX FRANCE FAX (33) 98 29 23 24 || +--------------------------------------------------+| +--------------------------------------------------+ From daemon Thu Jul 11 15:02:58 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA08055 Message-Id: <199607112202.PAA08055@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: p.j.w.olive@ncl.ac.uk Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:41:26 +0000 Subject: Re: Slides of polychaetes I too would like to purchase a set of such slides and especially of larval forms Peter Olive < p.j.w.olive@ncl.ac.uk> -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html (moving soon to => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/ -- From daemon Thu Jul 11 15:20:00 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA10127 Message-Id: <199607112220.PAA10127@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:39:18 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: jablake@ix.netcom.com (JAMES ALAN BLAKE) Subject: Taxonomic Atlas Vol. 6 Dear Annelid enthusiasts and friends, I am pleased to announce the publication of Volume 6 of the "Taxonomic Atlas of the Benthic Fauna of the Santa Maria Basin and Western Santa Barbara Channel." Volume 6 is the third of four planned volumes on the Annelida. The full citation for the volume is: Blake, J.A., B. Hilbig, and P.H. Scott (editors). 1996. The Annelida Part 3. Polychaeta: Orbiniidae to Cossuridae. Taxonomic Atlas of the Benthic Fauna of the Santa Maria Basin and Western Santa Barbara Channel, Vol. 6. Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History, Santa Barbara California. vii + 418 pp. including Appendices and index. The chapter sequence and authorship is as follows: 1. Family Orbiniidae Hartman, 1942 (by James A. Blake): 1-26 2. Family Paraonidae Cerruti, 1909 (by James A. Blake): 27-70. 3. Family Apistobranchidae Mesnil and Caullery, 1898 (by James A. Blake) : 71-79. 4. Family Spionidae Grube, 1850. Including a Review of the Genera and Species from California and a Revision of the Genus Polydora (by James A. Blake): 81-223. 5. Family Poecilochaetidae Hannerz, 1956 (by James A. Blake): 225-232. 6. Family Chaetopteridae Malmgren, 1867 (by James A. Blake): 233-251. 7. Family Magelonidae Cunningham and Ramage, 1888 (by James A. Blake): 253-261. 8. Family Cirratulidae Ryckholdt, 1851. Including a Revision of the Genera and Species from the Eastern North Pacific (by James A. Blake): 263-384. 9. Family Cossuridae Day, 1963 (by Brigitte Hilbig): 385-404. Abstract: Volume 6, the third annelid volume, includes nine of the so-called "Sedentary" polychaete families: Orbiniidae, Paraonidae, Apistobranchidae, Spionidae, Poecilochaetidae, Chaetopteridae, Magelonidae, Cirratulidae, and Cossuridae. A total of 43 genera and 143 species are included of which 29 species are new to science and another is renamed. In addition, numerous species are redescribed and illustrated. Seven species of Orbiniidae are treated along with a discusion of possible taxonomic problems with the concept of the subfamily Protoariciinae. Nineteen species of Paraonidae includes a new species of Aricidea; A. lopezi rubra is elevated to full species status. A single species of the Apistobranchidae, Apistobranchus ornatus is redescribed. The taxonomic history of the family reveals several erroneous concepts have been perpetuated. A key is presented to all known species of Apistobranchus. The chapter on Spionidae includes a major review of the family from California with a key to genera and known species. A total of 53 species are described including 7 new to science. The genus Pygospiopsis and its relatives are reviewed, and partially revised, with a new species described. The holotype of Morants duplex, long an enigma, was discovered at the Museum of Comparative Zoology, Harvard and determined to be the senior synonym of Spiophanes missionensis. The genus Polydora is divided into two genera: Polydora Bosc, and Dipolydora Verrill. All known species of these two genera are tabulated, with keys and diagnoses presented for all California species. Known species of Chaetopteridae (6) and Magelonidae (3) are treated. The chapter on the Cirratulidae represents a revision of all known genera and species from the eastern North Pacific. A total of 47 species are treated in 10 genera. Twenty species are new to science and another is newly named. All previously described species are reviewed and mostly redescribed from type materials. Among 6 species of Cossura, one is new to science. The price for Volume 6 is $39 + Postage ($4 U.S) ($7 Non U.S.). Credit card orders will be accepted. For ordering information, please contact Dr. Paul Scott: Department of Invertebrate Zoology Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History 2559 Puesta del Sol Road Santa Barbara, CA 93105 USA FAX: (805) 569-3170 e-mail: phscott@rain.org On behalf of the editors and authors of the Atlas, I would like to thank everyone for the tremendous response to this series. Several of the previously published volumes, including the two previous annelid volumes, are now completely sold out. These will be reprinted this summer. Other recently issued volumes include Gastropods, amphipods, and bryozoans. Additional crustacean volumes, echinoderms and miscellaneous groups, cnidarians, and the rest of the molluscs will be issued soon. The final annelid volume will be ready by the end of the year. Jim Blake -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://muse.bio.cornell.edu/~worms/annelid.html (moving soon to => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/ -- From daemon Thu Jul 11 16:36:12 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA17875 Message-Id: <199607112336.QAA17875@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Rudolf Fischer Subject: Diplochaetetes fossil tubes Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:01:48 +0000 Dear worm experts, I study fossil calcareous tubes, found in Oligocene to Pliocene beds from Lower California. They are known as Diplochaetetes mexicanus, considered as tubes of a polychaete worm. The tube walls show a microbialitic microstructure, very similar to that of a recent Dodecaceria-sepcies from Yucatan, Mexico. Precipitation of microbialites is actively controlled by microbes (bacteria) or inactively induced by acidic organic macromolecules. I would appreciate any information about (1) symbiosis between bacteria and polychaetes and (2) about the chemical composition of mucus enveplopes of polychaete worms. Thanks Rudolf Fischer -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- [Yes, this is a near repeat of the message I forwarded 4 July. Anyone experienced in vent polychaetes & vestimentiferans care to comment for Prof Fischer? -- Moderator ] From daemon Fri Jul 12 15:49:31 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA15196 Message-Id: <199607122249.PAA15196@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:00:04 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: BIOSCI Administrator Subject: IMPORTANT - BIOSCI Fundraising Update! BIOSCI is about halfway to its funding goal!! 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Methods newsgroup archive pages, http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/METHDS- REAGNTS/ and monthly header pages, visited recently by about 350 unique hosts per week. Ads can also be displayed on various combinations of other BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. Please contact us at biosci-help@net.bio.net for details. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From daemon Fri Jul 12 16:36:42 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA19551 Message-Id: <199607122336.QAA19551@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:33:19 GMT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt Subject: Re: Slides of polychaetes You could either make slides yourself by taking photos from books or, if there actually is interest in this, I could send slides of the species figured in my book on the marine invertebrates of Madeira, the Canaries, the Azores (and other species, too; only creatures larger than 2 cm). Contact me if interested at biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt Peter Wirtz From daemon Fri Jul 12 22:26:23 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA17823 Message-Id: <199607130526.WAA17823@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:17:59 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: LLLPOLYTAX@aol.com Subject: Dr. Nunez inquiry. Friends of things that crawl in the mud, I need to communicate with Dr. Jorge Nunez from the Canary Islands. Can someone out there please send me his e-mail or FAX number? Thanks. Worm regards, Larry Lovell LLLPOLYTAX@aol.com From daemon Mon Jul 15 11:18:28 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA16856 Message-Id: <199607151818.LAA16856@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:35:09 +0000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Rafa Sarda Subject: Re: Dr. Nunez inquiry. The FAX of Dr. Nunez is 34 - 22 - 273344 if it has not been changed recently. Sorry I do not have his E-mail. Rafa Sarda -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ -- From daemon Mon Jul 15 11:18:28 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA16859 Message-Id: <199607151818.LAA16859@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 11:08:46 -0600 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Franck Zal Subject: Pogonophora [specm request] Dear Colleagues, I'm working on invertebrate hemoglobin structures and more precisely on vestimentiferans and annelids. Some species of these phyla possess extracellular Hbs dissolved on their vascular blood or/and in their coelomic fluid. So, I'm looking for frozen Pogonophora specimens (Siboglinium, Oligobrachia or...). Does anyone know how I should obtain these worms for Hb structure purpose ? Any information could be posted to me directly on my email address zal@sb-roscoff.fr Thanks a lot for your help. Regards Franck Zal *-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-* FRANCK ZAL STATION BIOLOGIQUE tel: (33) 98 29 23 11 BP74, 29682 ROSCOFF CEDEX FRANCE fax: (33) 98 29 23 24 W3 page: http://www.sb-roscoff.fr e-mail: zal@sb-roscoff.fr *-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-*--*-* -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ -- From daemon Tue Jul 16 02:44:26 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA17633 Message-Id: <199607160944.CAA17633@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:32:14 GMT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt Subject: slides Dear Colleagues, There has been a surprisingly large response to my offer to send polychaete slides. So, here is a list (species, location taken) of what I could send (good slide copies of underwater photos). Price 5 German Marks (eurocheque) or 3 US Dollars per slide. If ordering less than ten, add 5 DM or 3 Dollars for postage. Please send money with order. Sabella spalanzanii, Azores Biuspira volutacornis, Madeira Sabella pavonina, Madeira Megalomma vesiculosum, Azores Myxicola infundibulum, Azores Serpula vermicularis, Madeira Lygdamis murata, Madeira Eupolymnia nebulosa, Azores Polycirrus sp., Azores Lanice conchilega, Azores Diopatra neapolitana, Madeira Hesione pantherina, Azores Hermodice carunculata, Madeira Phyllodoce paretti, Madeira Ditrupa arietina, Madeira Spionodae sp., Azores Spirobranchus polytrema, Madeira Eulalia viridis (?), Madeira 5 strange unidentified, Madeira Achloe astericola, Canaries Protula sp. Canaries Bispira viola, Canaries Best wishes Peter Wirtz biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt Also: Ochetostoma baroni (Echiurida) Barebtsintsia discreta (Kamptozoa) Bonellia viridis (Echiurida) Sipunculid unid. Phorionis hippocrepia (Phoronida) etc. etc,. ================================ Moderator says: Oops no postal address Peter! Peter's address previously was: Dr. Peter Wirtz c/o Hotel Vila ventura P - 9125 Canico Madeira, Portugal. -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ -- From daemon Tue Jul 16 15:38:49 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA19940 Message-Id: <199607162238.PAA19940@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:39:53 GMT Subject: Re: slides The address to send orders (and the money) to is indeed still Dr. Peter Wirtz c/o Hotel Vila Ventura P - 9125 Canico Madeira, Portugal Thanks, Geoff, for adding this to my message. Peter From daemon Tue Jul 16 19:57:55 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA13389 Message-Id: <199607170257.TAA13389@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:11:13 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: jkw1@axe.humboldt.edu (John K. Weaver) Subject: bacteria/worm symbiosis-mucus chem. I also would appreciate any information about (1) symbiosis between bacteria and polychaetes and (2) about the chemical composition of mucus envelopes of polychaete worms. The orbiniid worm I'm studing, Naineris dendritica, ingests alot of woody debris which occassionally cuts through and splits the body walls posteriorly. There are also what appear to be mucoid-like filiments which become entangled around the posterior sections of the worms then constrict the flow of food material along the digestive tract. These worms live in mucus envelopes within the rhizomes of the Zostra eel-grass and I'm wondering if these mucus-like constrictions may be purposely setup to aid passing clogged debris or originate some other way ? Thanks. John K. Weaver Department of Biological Sciences Humboldt State University Arcata, California 95519 e-mail: jkw1@axe.humboldt.edu fax: 707 826-3201 From daemon Wed Jul 17 00:54:45 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA10352 Message-Id: <199607170754.AAA10352@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:20:22 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Daniel.Desbruyeres@ifremer.fr Subject: Re: bacteria/worm symbiosis-mucus chem. >I also would appreciate any information about >(1) symbiosis between bacteria and polychaetes and >(2) about the chemical composition of mucus envelopes of polychaete >worms. The orbiniid worm I'm studing, Naineris dendritica, ... > John K. Weaver ... All the papers on Alvinellid worms (from deep-sea hydrothermal vents) would be of interest for you. Daniel. Daniel Desbruyeres Departement Environnement Profond Centre de Brest de l IFREMER BP 70, 29280 Plouzane Cedex France Tel : 33 98 22 43 01 Secretariat Tel : 33 98 22 43 04 Fax : 98 22 45 47 ou 98 22 46 53 From daemon Wed Jul 17 16:06:06 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA27754 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:06:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199607172306.QAA27754@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Paulo da Cunha Lana Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: Centro de Estudos do Mar Subject: SIXTH INTERNATIONAL POLYCHAETE CONFERENCE: First circular First announcement and call for papers: SIXTH INTERNATIONAL POLYCHAETE CONFERENCE 2-7 August 1998 Curitiba, Parana, Brazil E-mail address This is an e-mail version of the first announcement. It is also available on the WWW, together with regular information updates on plans for the Conference, with the addresses: http://cem.ufpr.br/sixthIntpolycconf.html (Home page from August 1996 onwards) http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/brazil.html (Mirror & currently online) You are invited to attend the Sixth International Polychaete Conference to be held in Curitiba, Brazil from 2-7 August 1998. The conference is sponsored by the International Polychaetology Association and hosted by the Marine Studies Center (Universidade Federal do Parana, Brazil). The major topics in the conference will include polychaete diversity and phylogeny, taxonomy and systematics, genetics and molecular biology, evolutionary ecology, population and community ecology, and applied research. The conference will include invited speakers in targeted discussions, special symposia (polychaete phylogenetics and biogeography / comparative aspects of polychaete biology), oral presentation of papers, and poster sessions. Invited speakers will present and discuss the current status of polychaete and annelid research in order to stimulate discussion on future directions of research. Short stays at South American research institutions and field collecting trips to the Brazilian southeastern coast can be organized just before or after the conference, depending upon interest. A short course on polychaete ecology and cladistics, including participants from the polychaete conference, is also being planned by the Organizing Committee. Arrangements are being made to publish the contributed papers or poster displays in the Bulletin of Marine Science, which Dr. Donald J. Reish has kindly offered to edit. All papers must be in English and will be subject to peer review. Curitiba has about 1.5 million inhabitants and it is well known for its low-cost solutions to urban problems (have a look at the March 1996 issue of Scientific American for more information about the city). Located at 905 m above sea level, it has a temperate climate with average temperatures ranging from 20 oC (68 oF) in the summer to 13 oC (55 oC) in the winter. Temperatures can be as low as 2 oC during morning and evening. Therefore, be prepared for a cold period in Curitiba. A well-known travel guide to Brazil states that "there is not much [in Curitiba] for the out-of-towner, but it is still possible to pass a pleasant day in a park, museum and older neighborhood waiting for your bus or train to leave". I would add: "... or attending a polychaete conference". ORGANIZING COMMITTEE Chairman: Paulo da Cunha Lana, Universidade Federal do Parana, Brazil (lana@aica.cem.ufpr.br or lana@cce.ufpr.br) Co-conveners: Edmundo Ferraz Nonato (fax + 55 11 2103092), Universidade de Sao Paulo, Brazil; Antonia Cecilia Z. Amaral (camaral@obelix.unicamp.p.br), Universidade de Campinas; Eloisa Morgado do Amar al, Universidade de Campinas; Jeanette Maron Ramos, Universidade Santa Ursula; Arno Blankensteyn (absteyn@bio.ufpr.br), Universidade Federal do Parana; Paulo Cesar Paiva, Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro. Secretariat: Marcia Brandini, Mauricio Garcia de Camargo (mcamargo@aica.cem.ufpr.br), Rosemary Aparecida Brogim (rbrogim@aica.cem.ufpr.br) and Cinthya Simone Gomes Santos (csgomes@aica.cem.ufpr.br) The organizing committee is supported by the Zoology Department (UFPR), Instituto Paranaense de Desenvolvimento Cientifico e Tecnologico (IPARDES), Brazilian Society of Zoology, Brazilian Society of Oceanography, Municipality of Curitiba, and a number of other Brazilian universities. Likely co-sponsors will be the Brazilian National Research Council (CNPq), and the Brazilian Ministry of Education (CAPES). CHAIRPERSON OF THE INTERNATIONAL POLYCHAETOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION Kristian Fauchald (fauchald.kristian@nmnh.si.edu), Smithsonian Institution, USA ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF THE CONFERENCE All the members of the Advisory Council of the International Polychaetology Association, plus a group of invited South American polychaetologists. DEADLINES 1 December 1996 Deadline for preliminary show of interest to attend April 1997 Second circular, including abstract form for oral or poster presentation and update information (to be sent only to those who have returned the reply form included in this announcement) 1 September 1997 Booking of hotels and postconference excursions 1 February 1998 Submission of abstracts 1 May 1998 Notification of acceptance of contributed papers and posters 1 June 1998 Final circular and programme 7 August 1998 Submission of manuscripts for review and publication REGISTRATION FEES US Dollars (USD) 220 including all conference materials, proceedings, cocktail and coffee-breaks, and mid-conference tour. USD 140 for students and USD 80 each for accompanying spouses, friends and children. CONFERENCE VENUE All sessions and meetings will be held in the Instituto Paranaense de Desenvolvimento Cientifico e Tecnologico (IPARDES), located in Edificio Castelo Branco, Centro Civico, downtown Curitiba. Two lecture rooms (82 and 312 people) and a number of smaller meeting rooms, will be available. Both of the lecture rooms are provided with all conference facilities for oral sessions, poster displays, etc. Other facilities (e-mail and WWW access, fax, photocopies, etc.) will be available either at IPARDES or at Universidade Federal do Parana. CONFERENCE PROGRAM English is the official language for the conference, both for oral presentations and poster displays. No translation facilities will be available. Details of the scientific program, registration and abstract forms will be provided in the second announcement. ARRIVAL AND ACCOMMODATION Afonso Pena International Airport is located within the Curitiba Metropolitan region at about 18 kilometers from downtown. Several hotels are located within 1-5 km from the conference venue. Current prices of good hotels (three to four stars) vary from USD 50 to USD 90 per person per day, breakfast included. Double rooms are available at lower prices (USD 40 to USD 80 per room). A list of hotels, including also some cheaper mid-range alternatives (prices from USD 30 to USD 50 per person), will be provided in the second announcement. Practical information on arrival, registration, and social activities (opening and closing ceremonies, concerts, and banquet) will be provided in the second and third announcements. MID- AND POST-CONFERENCE EXCURSIONS The mid-conference tour will be a whole day visit to Serra do Mar (Mar Mountain Range), and the coastal lowlands by train and bus (no charges to participants). The 110-km railroad from Curitiba to the coast descends a steep mountainside covered with a well-preserved Atlantic tropical forest. It is the most exciting railroad in Brazil, with superb views. After a filling lunch in the sleepy colonial town of Morretes, polychaete collecting at nearby mangroves can be arranged, depending upon interest. Two post-conferences tours will be organized upon demand: a) Iguacu Falls/the Amazon or the Pantanal (5 days) and b) seaside resorts (Natal and Fortaleza) of the northeastern Brazilian coast (5 days). Detailed plans and the cost of excursions will be presented in the next announcement and will depend on the number of participants. Other excursions will be considered if there is the interest and demand. REPLY FORM AND SECOND CIRCULAR Please fill out the enclosed reply form and return it to me before 1 December 1996. E-mail, fax or letter will be accepted. The second circular will be sent by April 1997. Titles of papers need not be final at this time but will assist in planning. SIXTH INTERNATIONAL POLYCHAETE CONFERENCE CURITIBA, PARANA, BRAZIL 2-7 AUGUST 1998 REGISTRATION FORM (please type or print) Surname/Family name: _________________________________ First name: __________________________________________ Work address: _______________________________________ ____________________________________________________ Work phone (international version): + _____________________ Fax (international): + ___________________ E-mail:_______________________________ Title of paper or poster (tentative): ________________________ ____________________________________________________ ____ oral or ______ poster presentation (please tick where appropriate) Abstracts of papers must be submitted by 1 February, 1998 Excursions (tick where appropriate): _______ Serra do Mar and mangrove (mid-conference) _______ Iguacu Falls/the Amazon or Pantanal _______ Seaside resorts of the Brazilian northeastern coast Other excursions (specify) __________________________________ Any accompanying person (s), not participating in symposium? ___ How many? __________ Would you accept to share rooms? ______ yes ______ no Return this form by 1 December 1996 (or sooner) to: Paulo da Cunha Lana - Sixth International Polychaete Conference Centro de Estudos do Mar - Universidade Federal do Parana Trav. Alfredo Bufren, 140 - Terreo 80 000-000 Curitiba - Parana - Brazil Tel + 55 41 4551333 Fax + 55 41 4551105 E-mail: IPC6@cce.ufpr.br or IPC6@aica.cem.ufpr.br Please make this circular available, either printed or as an e-text, together with the appended reply form, to other people interested in polychaetes and related topics. About 1,000 printed folders will also be posted to polychaete specialists, postgraduate students, universities and research institutions worldwide. I will add your e-mail addresses to the mailing list to facilitate regular information update on plans for the Conference. Paulo da Cunha Lana -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Jul 17 16:06:06 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA27755 Message-Id: <199607172306.QAA27755@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:46:31 +1200 (NZST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Geoff Read Subject: Annelid Resources WWW online now Hello folks, The annelid WWW pages formerly at Cornell have survived shipment to Kansas and are back online. I have already added a web version of Paulo's Polychaete Conference first circular. More news of other additions shortly but I should mention a page from Tom Parker on "Diagnostic Difficulties with Polychaetes in the genus Pista (Terebellidae)" under the Systematics and Taxonomy section. Please update bookmarks to: http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html Geoff -- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html List Archives => http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ From daemon Wed Jul 17 20:36:50 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA26044 Message-Id: <199607180336.UAA26044@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:51:58 +12 Subject: Re: bacteria/worm symbiosis-mucus chem. John K. Weaver wrote: > The orbiniid worm I'm studing, Naineris dendritica, ingests > alot of woody debris which occassionally cuts through and splits the > body walls posteriorly. Ouch! I presume this and the tangling filaments are not occurring just in the unnatural situation in dishes where worms secreting mucus get themselves into bad trouble when they can only partly anchor themselves to the bottom. Tough stuff is mucus ... > ... mucus envelopes within the rhizomes of the ... ^^^^^^ ... and in these southern parts we still prefer our envelopes of mucus to be mucous envelopes secreted by mucous glands. Though why that should be so I don't know. :-) -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html ANNELIDA mailing list => annelida@net.bio.net & biosci-server@net.bio.net List Archives => http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ -- From daemon Thu Jul 18 15:16:45 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA26748 Message-Id: <199607182216.PAA26748@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:17:14 -0800 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Aaron Baldwin Organization: Emperor of the Known Universe Subject: Some taxonomy questions Dear everyone, I would like to first like to thank all of you who responded to my inquiry on polychaete ecology. Once again, my email was down for about three weeks, so if you wrote me and I didn't respond, I didn't get the message. My e-mail was down for another few days recently (right after my second post, of course) and I lost those messages also. We are now full into the taxonomic portion of our study. It is hard, as the keys we have are for Washington state, British Columbia, Eastern USSR, and Pt. Barrow Alaska. Most everything is keying out fine, but I realize that we may be dealing with species that are not in the keys we are using. I am using "cf" in between a great number of our species names. I thought I might throw out a few of the anomolies to you all to see if someone might know. One kind of important species we are getting is Chaetozone cf. setosa. It agrees with the keys fine, except that in Hobson & Banse it says that this species has only acicular setae nearly encircling the posterior segments. I don't know if that meant that only the acicular seate actually nearly encircle the segment, or that there are no other seate present but acicular (I hope that made sense). Ours has both long capillary and acicular setae that seem to alternate on the lateral margins, but seem to be only acicular setae that actually nearly make it to the center of the dorsal and ventral region. Is this still C. setosa? Or are there others that should be expected in Southeast Alaska? I have many more questions, but am out of time. Real quick though, are there any keys to the Goniadae that rely on feature besides the pharynx? About one in fifty of ours have the pharynx out at all. I have wrecked a vast number through dissection, mashing, etc. trying to find teeth. Thanks - Aaron Aaron Baldwin From daemon Thu Jul 18 17:10:57 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA08740 Message-Id: <199607190010.RAA08740@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:07:43 +12 Subject: Re: Some taxonomy questions Aaron Baldwin wrote: > ... if you wrote me and I didn't respond, I didn't get the > message. My e-mail was down for another few days recently (right after > my second post, of course) and I lost those messages also. Normally mail systems keep trying for about five days to a host which is offline (long enough for any equipment failure to be repaired), whereupon a message goes to the originators that the message was undeliverable (they then resend if they can be bothered, which in the case of a flaky system they may not). List mail is on the archive of course. Internal system losses are another matter and if that is the problem then you or your network manager are responsible for those. I suggest you get together for a chat :-) > One kind of important species we are getting is Chaetozone cf. setosa. You may have missed the announcement of James Blake's latest Atlas. Jim's reviews are undoubtedly essential reading for any of your problems with Chaetozone, other cirratulids, and several other important soft sediment families. -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html ANNELIDA mailing list => annelida@net.bio.net & biosci-server@net.bio.net List Archives => http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ -- From daemon Thu Jul 18 20:38:32 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA28415 Message-Id: <199607190338.UAA28415@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:11:16 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: James.T.Carlton@williams.edu (James T. Carlton) Subject: Naineris gut wood puncturing body wall >John K. Weaver wrote: >> The orbiniid worm I'm studing, Naineris dendritica, ingests >> alot of woody debris which occassionally cuts through and splits the >> body walls posteriorly. >and Geoff Read wrote: >Ouch! >I presume this and the tangling filaments are not occurring just in >the unnatural situation in dishes where worms secreting mucus get >themselves into bad trouble when they can only partly anchor >themselves to the bottom. Tough stuff is mucus ... Splits the body wall, or punctures and slices through the body wall (making for a potentially re-sealable wound?). For a rather distant analogy, Don Wobber reported (and captured on movie film) many years ago the phenomenon of how the large many-rayed sunflower seastar (asteroid) Pycnopodia helianthoides in Monterey Bay, California, captures post-spawned and spent squid (Loligo opalescens) and eats them -- with the squid's long (15 cm), chitinous pen then being forced up and through the seastar's aboral body surface (ouch!?) for expulsion! James T. Carlton Professor of Marine Sciences Director, Maritime Studies Program Williams College -- Mystic Seaport P. O. Box 6000, 75 Greenmanville Avenue Mystic, Connecticut 06355 U.S.A. From daemon Mon Jul 22 15:07:13 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA13134 Message-Id: <199607222207.PAA13134@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: 22 Jul 1996 16:46:43 U Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Land, "J. van der" Subject: Register of Marine Organisms Dear Colleagues, For some time I have been engaged in the compilation of the "Unesco-IOC Register of Marine Organisms". Originally this was only a more or less complete overview of the families and a first draft of a bibliography of key-works, distributed on floppy disk in 1994. Since then I have mainly tried to collect lists of species because the ultimate goal is to list all described and accepted marine species (in the order of 200.000 I guess). They will be made freely available, first on internet and later on CD-ROM. Some of you may know about a broader initiative to list all species on earth, 'Species 2000'. This is intended to be a federation of biodiversity databases and the Unesco database will of course be associated. Duplication of efforts has to be avoided. I hope we will succeed in getting the overview down to the family level and a sizable bibliography ready this year and list about 50.000 species as well. Therefore we started making two (more or less experimental) lists available on the WWW site of the Expert-center for Taxonomic Identification (ETI), Amsterdam. ETI, Amsterdam WWW site adresses: http://wwweti.eti.bio.uva.nl http://145.18.162.199 directly to the Unesco register: http://145.18.162.199/urmo/findtax.html The first list contains only part of the marine chordate species, from tunicates to mammals, but it gives a good impression of the basic idea. Of course there is also a search machine and some explanatory stuff. Several groups, for the time being mainly multicellular animals, are waiting to be put on the web, including several of the smaller groups of worms. There are for instance complete lists of chaetognaths, sipunculids, echiurids, cephalorhynchs (priapulids, kinorhynchs etc.), gastrotrichs and phoronids. Until now I did not actively seek support for the creation of an annelid list, but after quite some work on cnidarians and several groups of arthropods I should like to try the annelids now, one of my favourite groups after all. I do have more than 3000 species of polychaetes listed but there should be at least 8000 I presume. Some families are easy but most are not. Harry ten Hove already spent quite some time on completing the serpulids in digital form, not one of the easiest families, and he enjoyed it or at least found it a useful exercise. There may be others who have done similar work on other families and of course I invite them to make their results available to the scientific world at large. My experience is that there are even more people who have planned to do this for their favourite group for a long time already. I can assure you that collaborating in such a major effort is quite stimulating. In short: who is willing to take reponsibility for one or more families of annelids (or even other beasts)? Geoffrey already sent us his "Worldwide Polychaete Family List" as an excellent basis. The format of your contribution is of little importance as long as it is not a card index. Lists in digital form are preferred but scannable paper is also alright. I can also send you by e-mail what I have already (much in some families), in your preferred format. Sincerely, Jacob * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dr Jacob van der Land, National Museum of Natural History, P.O. Box 9517, 2300 RA Leiden, Netherlands fax +31.71.5133344. E-mail: evert@nnm.nl * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From daemon Tue Jul 23 14:41:56 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA19367 Message-Id: <199607232141.OAA19367@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:53:19 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: biocat@uts.cc.utexas.edu (Joel Hallan) Subject: Re: Register of Marine Organisms Dear Jacob, If you were not aware, Dr. Kristian Fauchald has a complete database of the Polychaeta. I do not know if he will make it available, but he probably has made parts of it available to specialists. There was a catalogue issued by him also [1978?]. I have looked at the web site, but did not find any species lists. Joel Joel Hallan 4405 Manzanillo Dr. Austin, TX 78749 512-280-2546 -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Jul 24 15:14:16 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA13175 Message-Id: <199607242214.PAA13175@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:52:56 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Angel de Leon Subject: information [Susan Chambers] Dear Colleagues, I need communicate with Susan Chambers of the National Museum of Scotland. Can some one send me her e-mail number? Thanks a lot. Best regards, Angel de Leon -- ANNELIDA discussion list -- Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu Jul 25 03:47:21 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA03700 Message-Id: <199607251047.DAA03700@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:53:36 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Claude Jouin-Toulmond Subject: Re: information [Susan Chambers] >Dear Colleague, > >I need communicate with Susan Chambers of the National Museum of >Scotland. Can some one send me her e-mail number? Thanks a lot. > > Best regards, > > >Angel de Leon Dear Colleague, E-mail address of Susan Chambers is: sjc@nms.ac.uk Best regards Claude Jouin-Toulmond From daemon Thu Jul 25 03:47:17 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA03687 Message-Id: <199607251047.DAA03687@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:28:31 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Derek C. Moore" Subject: Re: information [Susan Chambers] At 02:52 pm 24/7/1996 -0700, you wrote: >Dear Colleagues, > >I need communicate with Susan Chambers of the National Museum of >Scotland. Can some one send me her e-mail number? Thanks a lot. > > Angel, The museum is apparently not able to handle individual email correspondence and asks that snail mail be used. Their address is: The Royal Museum of Scotland, Chambers Street, Edinburgh, EH1 1JF. Telephone: 0131-225 7534. HOWEVER they do have a web page at and there is a contact address which is which may allow you to contact Susan if the matter is urgent. DC Moore From daemon Sun Jul 28 15:32:04 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA24929 Message-Id: <199607282232.PAA24929@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:39:03 +0000 Subject: Re: Slides of polychaetes Keith Probert wrote: > Does anyone have for sale, or know where I might purchase, high quality > colour transparencies of polychaetes that could be used for teaching > purposes? ... Not precisely what you wanted Keith, but I have just got around to testing out this link for the French Canadian BIODIDAC image collection. It does list a considerable number of annelid diagrams and images including those of polychaetes. http://biodidac.bio.uottawa.ca You have to enter your e-mail address to advance to the lists of images. I have no idea of the quality of the pictures. If anyone else has links to worm images please send them in and I will add them to my (very short) list at Annelid Resources. -- Geoff Read Annelida resources => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html List Archives => http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ From daemon Tue Jul 30 02:50:47 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA05364 Message-Id: <199607300950.CAA05364@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 00:15:51 +0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Vadim M. Khaitov" Subject: polychaeta from spongia Dear Colleagues! I found in the white sea sponges a lot of various polychaetes. Does anybody know anything about polychaetes from sponges (literature, specialists, own observations)? Sincerely yours Vadim. !==================================! !=====================================! ! Vadim M. Khaitov ! ! ! ! Dept. of Invertebrate Zoology ! ! E-mail: polydora@vmk.stud.pu.ru ! ! Faculty of Biology & Soil Sci. ! ! ! ! St.Petersburg State University ! ! Phone (Fax) 152 4514 ! ! Universitetskaya nab. 7/9, ! ! Fax after reaching agreement only ! ! 199034 St.Petersburg, RUSSIA ! ! ! !==================================! !=====================================! From daemon Tue Jul 30 14:31:56 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA05458 Message-Id: <199607302131.OAA05458@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:04:33 -0100 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: dani@ceab.es (Daniel Martin) Subject: Re: polychaeta from spongia Vadim M. Khaitov wrotte: >Dear Colleagues! > >I found in the white sea sponges a lot of various polychaetes. >Does anybody know anything about polychaetes from >sponges (literature, specialists, own observations)? > >Sincerely yours Vadim. > Concerning this request, I have had the oportunity of work with two new polychaete species which life habits are more or less closely related with sponges: MARTIN, D., ROSELL, D. & URIZ, M.J., 1992.- Harmothoe hyalonemae sp. nov. (Polychaeta : Polynoidae), an exclusive inhabitant of different atlanto-mediterranean species of Hyalonema (Porifera : Hexactinellida). Ophelia, 35(3) : 169-185. MARTIN, D. (1996).- A new species of Polydora (Polychaeta, Spionidae) associated with the excavating sponge Cliona viridis (Porifera, Hadromerida) in the North Western Mediterranean sea. Ophelia. Offprints are (or soon will be!) available upon request. Daniel. Dr. Daniel Martin Centre d'Estudis Avancats de Blanes (C.S.I.C.) Cami de Sta. Barbara s/n 17300 Blanes, Girona Spain FAX: 34 72 337806 Phone: 34 72 336101 WWW page: http//www.ceab.es From daemon Tue Jul 30 21:17:25 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA03209 Message-Id: <199607310417.VAA03209@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Greta Point) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 16:11:41 +12 Subject: Re: polychaeta from spongia Sponge syllids also recently published in Ophelia: M. PASCUAL, J. NUNEZ, G. SAN MARTIN 1996: Exogone (Polychaeta: Syllidae: Exogoninae) endobiontics of sponges from the Canary and Madeira Islands with description of two new species. Ophelia 45(1):67-80. -- Geoff Read |\ | | \ /\ / /\ Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Res., Wellington NZ | \| | \/ \/ /--\ Taihoro Nukurangi Annelida resources => http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html ANNELIDA mailing list => annelida@net.bio.net & biosci-server@net.bio.net List Archives => http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ -- From daemon Wed Jul 31 20:13:19 1996 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA09522 Message-Id: <199608010313.UAA09522@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: University of Hawaii - Zoology Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 16:14:17 -1000 Subject: Reproduction? Aloha, We are looking for information on the reproduction of some specific species and hoped someone would have references to point us in the right direction. The species we have had trouble nailing down are Synelmis acuminata (Pilargidae), Myriochele oculata (Oweniidae), Podarke angustifrons, and the genus Nereimyra (Hesionidae). If there is anyone that knows of citations dealing specifically with these species or more generally with the families, we would appreciate the help. Thanks, wormlab __________________________________________________________ The Worm Lab. University of Hawaii Department of Zoology http://www2.hawaii.edu/wormlab/welcome.html ========================================================== "WORMS HAVE PLAYED A MORE IMPORTANT PART IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD THAN MOST PEOPLE WOULD AT FIRST SUPPOSE" -CHARLES DARWIN "The Few; the Proud; the Worm People." -DAVE BARRY