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From: JAMES ALAN BLAKE <jablake@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Reproduction?

Hi Wormlab,  

You wrote: 

>We are looking for information on the reproduction of some specific 
>species and hoped someone would have references to point us in the 
>right direction. The species we have had trouble nailing down are 
>Synelmis acuminata (Pilargidae), Myriochele oculata (Oweniidae), 
>Podarke angustifrons, and the genus Nereimyra (Hesionidae). If there 
>is anyone that knows of citations dealing specifically with these 
>species or more generally with the families, we would appreciate the 
>help.

I can perhaps contribute something on the oweniids. There is really 
very little information on oweniid reproduction except for several 
papers on Owenia fusiformis that you can look up in Zoological Record.  
However, for Myriochele oculata, there are some notes on that species 
published by Oliver, J.S. 1984.  Selection for asexual reproduction in 
an Antarctic polychaete worm. Marine Ecology Progress Series 19:33-38.  

The main study here is on Myriochele cf. heeri which Oliver found 
undergoes asexual fragmentation in Antarctic waters.  He also includes 
observations on M. oculata in Alaska and has some notes about sexual 
maturity and the like.  He refers to another paper by Oliver, et al., 
1983. U.S. Fish. Bull. 81:501-512, where more information is developed. 
 
For your information, Myriochele oculata should be referred to the 
genus Galathowenia.  Drop me a note if you want some taxonomic reasons.

I believe there is also some published information on Nereimyra, but I 
will leave that to others to relate.

Good luck, 

Jim Blake
(jablake@ix.netcom.com)
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From: Petersen Mary E {ZMUC} <mepetersen@zmuc.ku.dk>
Subject: NEREIDAE vs. Nereididae, final round?


Sunday, 4 August 1996

Dear ANNELIDANS,

Although the question of Nereidae vs. Nereididae has been brought up
several times, many of us were still confused, and useage has continued
to be divided.  In connection with a direct query from Paulo Lana earlier
this year, unaware of Alex Muir's reply to Mauricio Camargo, I checked
what I could find and sent the information on to Dr. Yuri P. Nekrutenko
<YPNekrut@mbat.freenet.kiev.ua>, a frequent contributor to TAXACOM,
especially in questions involving correct use of Latin in zoological
nomenclature.  Yuri reviewed the information sent and wrote back that
there could be no doubt that the correct form of the family name must be
NEREIDAE. I sent his reply to Paulo and did not give the matter any more
thought.

Recently the subject came up again, and Alex Muir has provided us with
some of the background for the original introduction of the longer
version NEREIDIDAE, first used in 1971 by Marian Pettibone, and based on
a recommendation by Mr. Melville:

>   "When the Americans first started putting Nereis in the Nereididae
>  rather than the Nereidae, I decided to check it out. I found that, in Greek
> mythology, Nereis was one of the Nereides - the 50 sea-nymph daughters of
>   Nereus (a god of the sea) and his wife Doris.
>
>     The generic name Nereis is therefore obviously feminine, but not being
>   a Greek scholar I could not work out the termination of the grammatical
>   stem for use in forming derivatives (see page 223 of the 1985 edition of
>   the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature). I therefore spoke to
>   Mr. Melville (then Secretary to the ICZN), who assured me that under the
>   circumstances NEREIDIDAE is the correct spelling for the family name.

In connection with a new query about the correct version, I forwarded to
Yuri the information sent by Alex and asked if this perhaps would give a
different result.  Yuri's reply is given below and indicates that the
more widely used NEREIDAE still appears to be the CORRECT version and
that the longer Nereididae cannot really be considered such.

>   Friday, 2 August 1996
>
>Dear Mary,
(...)
>     Well, let us start from zero. Nereus (m.) >  one  of  his 50 daughters
>is Nereis (f. sing. nom.); Nereidis (f. sing. gen.) > all 50  are  Nereidos
>(f. pl. nom.) > Nereidae (family name) -  it is 3rd  declension.  Generally
>saying, the family name spelling may depend rather  on  good taste than  on
>good  grammatical background  so   that Nereid-ae   is   far  better   than
>"parascientific" Nereid-idae.
>
(...)
>Yuri

Best regards to all,

Mary
 -------
Mary E. Petersen
Zoological Museum, University of Copenhagen
mepetersen@zmuc.ku.dk
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From: Daniel Martin <dani@ceab.es>
Subject: Re: Reproduction? 

Dear colleagues,

Although I have not information on the reproduction  of the species
mentioned by people from Wormlab, I wrote  a few words on the oweniids
from the Spanish coasts, i.e. Owenia fusiformis and Galathowenia oculata,
a few years ago (Scientia Marina 53(1): 47-52, 1989).

The message by Jim Blake remembers me the controversial synonymy of
Galathowenia/Myriochele which gave rise to some notes on the B.Z.N.

In the Spanish coasts ( both Mediterranean and Atlantic), there was a lot
of citations of the species Myriochele heeri, prior my above cited paper.
However, I examined most of the Spanish Mediterranean material and, in 
all cases, the individuals clearly belonged to  G. oculata. My colleagues
from the Atlantic also checked their collections and confirmed my
observations.

To my knowledge, there is only one citation of both G. oculata and M. heeri
coexisting in the same locality, the Tyrrhenian Sea (Cognetti Varriale ,
Atti. Soc. Tosc. Sci. Nat., Mem., ser. B, Suppl., 263-267, 1979).
Unfortunately, the original collections were not available. However, Dr.
Claudio Lardicci, who was replacing these collections using material from
the original localities, also confirmed my results. He did not found
specimens of M. heeri, neither in the Tyrrhenian localities nor on his own
collections from other Italian sites.

The last information I had on the synonymy was the paper by Mackie and
Pleijel (BZN, 47(2), 1990) which include also comments by Susan Chambers on
the conservation of the the names Myriochele Malmgrem and oculata Zask.
Since then, I could not pay attention to this problem, although individuals
of G. oculata are still frequent in our samples. I like to know that the
species "oculata" should be referred to the genus Galathowenia. Probably,
there are some more recent papers on this subject. Thus, it would be
helpful to our research group if somebody can explain us where the synonymy
was definitively stated.

Daniel.

Dr. Daniel Martin
Centre d'Estudis Avancats de Blanes (C.S.I.C.)
Cami de Sta. Barbara s/n
17300 Blanes, Girona
Spain
FAX:  34 72 337806
Phone: 34 72 336101
WWW page: http://www.ceab.es

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From: JAMES ALAN BLAKE <jablake@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Galathowenia

Dear annelid enthusiasts, 

Daniel Martin asked about a reference on the synonymy of Galathowenia 
and I refer him and others interested to:

Blake, J.A. 1984. Polychaeta Oweniidae from Antarctic seas collected by 
the United States Antarctic Research Program. Proceedings of the First 
International Polychaete Conference, Sydney, edited by P.A. Hutchings 
and published by the Linnean Society of New South Wales. Pp. 112-117.  

In this paper there is a review of the taxonomic history of Galathowenia
and the reasons for its separation from Myriochele.  I might add that in
all likelihood there are many species that have been collectively called
G. (or Myriochele) oculata.  I recommend use of Methyl Green Stain and a
careful mapping of staining patterns.  In the absence of obvious
characters, the staining patterns might suggest species level differences
in widely distributed populations of what appear to be the same species. 

Bye, 

Jim Blake
(jablake@ix.netcom.com)

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From: Gerard Bellan <gbellan@com.univ-mrs.fr>
Subject: Nereidae versus Nereididae

dear Folks,

As a poor alone ecologist who above all need to try to determine as
correctly as possible, Polychaete Species and among them Nereidae, I
suggest:

1) those more interested by these greek-latin problems ask to high level
scholars fluent in Latin and (ancien) Greek,
2) try  to know EXACTLY why Marian Pettibone choosed the "new" spelling
and, last but not the least,
3) our colleagues involved in the study of Nereidae  give us good keys for
correct determinations,

punto e basta, as it is said in Italian, the  modern language the nearest
from the old good Latin.

Polychetement votre,

Bellan
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Subject:       Nereididae one more time

================================================== 
Could any next candidates to air thoughts on this please have mercy
on us & trim the quotes? Thanks, & sorry to intrude Tom.
 -- Annelida Moderator.
==================================================

Sunday, 4 August 1996

Mary Petersen writes

Although the question of Nereidae vs. Nereididae has been brought up
several times, many of us were still confused, and usage has continued
to be divided.  In connection with a direct query from Paulo Lana earlier
this year, unaware of Alex Muir's reply to Mauricio Camargo, I checked
what I could find and sent the information on to Dr. Yuri P. Nekrutenko
<YPNekrut@mbat.freenet.kiev.ua>, a frequent contributor to TAXACOM,
especially in questions involving correct use of Latin in zoological
nomenclature.  Yuri reviewed the information sent and wrote back that
there could be no doubt that the correct form of the family name must be
NEREIDAE. I sent his reply to Paulo and did not give the matter any more
thought.

Recently the subject came up again, and Alex Muir has provided us with
some of the background for the original introduction of the longer
version NEREIDIDAE, first used in 1971 by Marian Pettibone, and based on
a recommendation by Mr. Melville:

>   "When the Americans first started putting Nereis in the Nereididae
>  rather than the Nereidae, I decided to check it out. I found that, in Greek
> mythology, Nereis was one of the Nereides - the 50 sea-nymph daughters of
>   Nereus (a god of the sea) and his wife Doris.
>
>     The generic name Nereis is therefore obviously feminine, but not being
>   a Greek scholar I could not work out the termination of the grammatical
>   stem for use in forming derivatives (see page 223 of the 1985 edition of
>   the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature). I therefore spoke to
>   Mr. Melville (then Secretary to the ICZN), who assured me that under the
>   circumstances NEREIDIDAE is the correct spelling for the family name.

In connection with a new query about the correct version, I forwarded to
Yuri the information sent by Alex and asked if this perhaps would give a
different result.  Yuri's reply is given below and indicates that the
more widely used NEREIDAE still appears to be the CORRECT version and
that the longer Nereididae cannot really be considered such.

>   Friday, 2 August 1996
>
>Dear Mary,
(...)
>     Well, let us start from zero. Nereus (m.) >  one  of  his 50 daughters
>is Nereis (f. sing. nom.); Nereidis (f. sing. gen.) > all 50  are  Nereidos
>(f. pl. nom.) > Nereidae (family name) -  it is 3rd  declension.  Generally
>saying, the family name spelling may depend rather  on  good taste than  on
>good  grammatical background  so   that Nereid-ae   is   far  better   than
>"parascientific" Nereid-idae.
>
(...)
>Yuri

Best regards to all,
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Dear Annelidans, 

Aware of Dr. Pettibone's use of Nereididae when preparing my paper
"Review of species previously referred to Ceratonereis mirabilis . .
. . . .. . . .  Proceedings of the Biological Society Of Washington 
93(1), 1980, I consulted my colleague James F. Quinn, Jr about that
name.  Quinn, who is an excellent linguist with a thorough knowledge
of the Code, consulted a Greek dictionary and assured me that Dr.
Pettibone was correct.  I was rather hesitant to question Dr.
Pettibone about how she came to use of the name. Now, it seems I am
not alone.  And, perhaps a few of us just do like the sound of it!

I suspect Dr. Pettibone consulted George Steyskal, the Smithsonian's
expert in classical languages and long time associate editor of the
Proceedings about the name.  In any event, I determined to my
satisfaction at the time that she was correct.  

Upon receipt of the above information from  Mary Petersen,  I
consulted Quinn again and he does not agree that the use of
Nereididae is incorrect nomenclature (In reference to the analysis
stated above, -IDAE is not Greek but Latin).  However, this is not
important in reference to the code.  The concept that the family
group name can be formed by adding  -idae  to Nere- or to the stem
of the plural, or to whatever, is incorrect.  Basically, Article
29(a) of the Code states that family group name "is formed by adding
to the stem of the GENUS name [in this case the stem of the genitive
singular Nereidis, which is Nereid-] the latinized suffix -IDAE to
form a family name" . . This is explained fairly well in Table 2 of
Appendix D of the of the Code, which I really doubt is incorrect. 

Furthermore, I do not agree, that after adoption of the new code, 
there will be general agreement that Nereidae should be used.  I do
not plan to use it.  What is general agreement?  Who will decide?  I
am somewhat concerned that there will be a tendency toward
nomenclatural anarchy.

Should I say this is all I ever intend to say?

Tom Perkins
perkins_t@harpo.dep.state.fl.us


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Dear Folks,

     Okay, I am not going to quote everybody on this string.   And most of 
my reference are in boxes pending the move in October/November/December to 
our new quarters on the ecologicaly significant wetlands in the other 
province across the river, but...

     If I remember correctly, the usage of the term Nereididae is based on 
the use of the term "Ne'reides" by Audouin & Milne-Edwards in 1834.

     The question is rather important to me as I am trying to work out the 
status of nereidids of British Columbia.

          Judy Fournier,
          Canadian Museum of Nature
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From: Daniel Martin <dani@ceab.es>
Subject: Re: Nereididae one more time


Tom Perkins wrote

> Basically, Article 29(a) of the Code states that family group name "is
>formed by adding to the stem > of the GENUS name [in this case the stem of
>the genitive singular Nereidis, which is Nereid-] the
> latinized suffix -IDAE to form a family name" . . This is explained
>fairly well in Table 2 of
> Appendix D of the of the Code, which I really doubt is incorrect.

Dear anelidans,

I am really far to be fluent in (ancient) Latin and Greek. My Latin / Greek
are almost exclusively reserved to refer to polychaetes and some more
organisms in a scientific framework. However, I would like to pose a simple
question which, certainly, would reveal my poor knowledge (I am sorry,
Gerard).

Why the GENUS to which the Code refers to should by "Nereidis / Nereid" and
not "Nereis" which is the genus name of a large number of the species of
the Family?

I any case, I am one of those preferring Nereidae in front of Nereididae.
The former is older, looks more similar to Nereis and, in agreement with
Mary Petersen, sounds better.

Daniel.


Dr. Daniel Martin
Centre d'Estudis Avancats de Blanes (C.S.I.C.)
Cami de Sta. Barbara s/n
17300 Blanes, Girona
Spain
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Phone: 34 72 336101
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From: H.G.Hansson@tmbl.gu.se (Hans G. Hansson)
Subject:       Etymological questions.

[Some characters (accents, etc) here may not display normally for
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When writing educational compendiums about regional marine fauna, I
use to try to explain the meaning of the scientific names to our
students. When dealing with names based upon a person, I use to
inform about at least at least nationality and life-span if possible.
Some persons have been more or less impossible to find data about
from my viewpiont. Thus, I have a vast list of questions about
chiefly years of birth and (when applicable) decease of scientists or
collectors figuring in scientific names of e.g. Annelid genera and
species. Also nationalities and complete names are of interest.


Wigley, Roland L. 19??-
        *       Spiophanes wigleyi  Pettibone,1962
Bacci, G. 1???-, Italian Ophryotrocha worker.
                Ophryotrocha bacci  Parenti,1961
Harass, ?
                Eunice harassii Audouin & M.-E.,1834
Klatt, G.    (A professor Berthold Klatt, 1885-19?? was working in the
Zoological Museum, Hamburg. Is he related to G. Klatt or is the
initial G wrong?)
        *       Glyphohesione klatti  Friedrich,1950
Sibert, ?
                Ophryotrocha puerilis siberti (McIntosh,1885)
Cavall, ?
                Tomopteris cavalli  Rosa,1907
Bobretzky, N.V., 18??-1???, Russian? scientist, who e.g. 1875 wrote a paper
together with the French scientist Antoine F. Marion, 1846-1900.
                Goniadella bobretzkii  (Annenkova,1922)
Webster, H.E., 18??-19??, American polychaete worker; wrote papers together
with James E. Benedict, 18??-19??
        *       Streptosyllis websteri  Southern,1914
Mathilda
                Sigalion mathildae  Audouin & H. Milne-Edwards,1830
Hartmann, ?
                Ophryotrocha hartmanni  Huth,1933
Zeppelin, M. von
        *       Zeppelina  Vaillant, in de Quatrefages,1890 (now
synonymized with
                Dodecaceria OErsted,1843)
Boccardi, ?
                Boccardiella Blake & Kudenov,1978 < Boccardia  Carazzi,1893
Homberg, ?
        *       Nephtys hombergi  de Lamarck,1818 (was collected in Havre
de Grace by Homberg, but who was he? The nudibranch Tritonia
hombergi Cuvier,1803 is probably named for the same person. Could it
be Wilhelm Homberg, 1652-1715, German-French chemist? or perhaps more
probably Eugene Homberg, 1???-18??, who together with two other
authors in  LeHavre published a book about fishes 1831?)
Amondsen, Danish captain collecting arctic species for the Swedish Mus. of
Nat. Hist.
        *       Gattyana amondseni  (Malmgren,1867)
Hartmann-Schroeder, Gesa, 19??-, German polychaete worker
        *       Gesiella  ?Authorship?
Catherina / Catherine
                Aricidea catherinae  Laubier,1987
Romijn (person or geographical name?)
                Alkmaria romijni  Horst,1919
Dyster, Frederic D., Dr. collected marine animals at Tenby. (probably the
same Dyster who described gen. Brettia (Bryozoa)
        *       Salmacina dysteri  (Huxley,1865)
Margo, Tivador  ?Hungarian scientist
        *       Ozobranchus margoi  (Apathy,1890)
Monticelli  probably count S.F. Monticelli from Naples
                Monticellina  Laubier,1961
Neizwestnowa-Shadina, E.
        *       Rheomorpha neizvestnovae  (Lastochkin,1935)

By the way, is anybody familiar with the ethymology of Pisione
Grube,1857? Could it be an anagram  of Pisinoe Rafinesque,1815
(Annelida) and thus possibly a nonsense-name, like several of
Rafinesque's names? Other strange generic names include Magelona
Fritz Mueller,1858 (Is it possibly some kind of Brazilian name?), the
two names Tharyx & Cossura by the American polychaetologists Webster
& Benedict,1887, several names from Malmgren,1866, e.g. Pista
(?possibly from Greek pistos =pure, genuine) & Sosane, Janua de
Saint-Joseph,1894 (possibly from the Roman god Janus?) and Maldane
Grube,1860.

If anybody may contribute with likely explanations or completion of
data for of any of the names, I will be very grateful.

                          Thank you in advance

**************************************************
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From: Mary McKee <VBOX@worldnet.att.net>
Subject:       Close Encounter

[Actually sent to annelida moderator who has seen a lot of swarming
worms but not at midday. Ideas please. Please CC any id to
<VBOX@worldnet.att.net>]

During a recent stroll along the beach in Atlantic City, I had a
close encounter with some very curious life forms.  I suspect they
must be common to marine biologist, but to me their discovery was as
startling as the first time I saw a dead cicada lying on the
sidewalk at a Miami strip mall and thought it was a mutant bird. 
(Have you guessed I'm not a biologist?)

Here's the scene.  It's late July.  It's lunchtime, so the tide is
taking a siesta while sleepy dog wavelets lap at the shore.  In with
the wavelets rides a small crew of wiggley things, each about an
inch long and thin as a thread.  They swim like garden worms
injected with rocket fuel.  Their nearly transparent bodies are
tipped with watery red heads that race furiously to burrow into the
sand at the shoreline before the wavelets can wash them out of the
competition.  Any worm who gets his head in the sand wins.  The
grand prize is a brand new home in a custom made dugout on some of
the most expensive real estate on the entire East Coast.  The losers
become fish bait.

Can you direct me to an identifying source, or should I brush up on
my Latin and give them an unpronounceable name vaguely resembling my
own?

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Date:          Mon, 12 Aug 1996 14:38:05 +12
Subject:       Biographies (Re: Etymological questions)

> [Some characters (accents, etc) here may not display normally for
> everyone -- Moderator] 

No worries. The list software nicely suppressed or converted them.

Hans G. Hansson wrote:
> ... Thus, I have a vast list of questions about
> chiefly years of birth and (when applicable) decease of scientists or
> collectors figuring in scientific names of e.g. Annelid genera and
> species. Also nationalities and complete names are of interest. ...

On a related theme I am interested in help with, or volunteers to be
author of, a web page of citations for obituaries, lifetime
publications lists, and biographical notes on polychaetologists.
These may not be so readily found by normal literature search
methods (I chanced upon an obit. for Soderstrom for example). If
anyone has already done such a list for their compatriots or
world-wide, or could easily do so, I would like to hear from them.

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From: Torleif Holthe <vmzothol@vm.ntnu.no>
Subject: Re: Etymological questions.


>Romijn (person or geographical name?)
>                Alkmaria romijni  Horst,1919

Horst's original decription gives the answer:
"Eenigen tijd geleden ontving ik van Dr. Romijn .... drie kleine Anneliden
uit het Almaarder meer ..."

The species is named after its type locality (Alkmaarder meer) and its
collector, Dr Romijn.

Torleif Holthe
VM, NTNU
Trondheim, Norway


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From daemon  Tue Aug 13 19:58:02 1996
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From: Perkins, Tom <PERKINS_T@harpo.dep.state.fl.us>
Subject: Nereididae


Dr. Martin asks "Why the genus to which the Code refers to should be
"Nereidis/Nereid" and not "Nereis".  I regret that he misunderstood. 
Nereis is the correct genus name.  Article 29(b) (which I should also have
quoted) states that, for a type generic name ending in a Greek or Latin
word, "the stem for the purposes of the code is found by deleting the case
ending of the genitive singular."  The genus name Nereis is the
'nominative' singular; the 'genitive' singular of Nereis is Nereidis;
'is' is the case ending; and 'Nereid' is the stem to which 'idae' is
added.

Judith Fournier makes an important point, but her memory is only
excellent.  Audouin & Milne-Edwards used Nereidiens as a family name,
which would be acceptable for authorship.  However, earlier, Latreille,
1825, Familles naturelle du Regne Animal, Paris, Bailliere, p. 240, used
Nereidaea, also acceptable and earlier (please excuse the lack of correct
French accent marks).  I believe it is correct to say that Nereidaea(iens)
was correctly emended to Nereididae by Pettibone in 1971.  (It is
interesting to note that both Latreille and A. & M-E used the correct
stem;  Williams, 1851, p. 187, however, the first author to add 'idae',
did not, incorrectly using Nereidae, as did all subsequent authors prior
to 1971.) I am certainly not a classical Greek scholar, but I try to ask
for help from my friends to be as accurate as I can.  Dr. Martin can do as
he prefers; however, I would prefer that a matter such as this be decided
by an organization such as the International Polychaetology Association.


Tom Perkins
perkins_t@harpo.dep.state.fl.us



From daemon  Wed Aug 14 02:27:59 1996
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From: Daniel Martin <dani@ceab.es>
Subject: Re: Nereididae

First, I would like to thank Dr. Perkins for clarifying my doubts.

I think that Annelida is a forum of discussion and, in my message, I simply
tried to express my doubts and my opinion. Of course, I am not such a type
of narrow-minded scientist that tries to keep using a family name if this
name is not correct.

Therefore, I agree with Dr. Perkins in that, and I quoted,

>however, I would prefer that a matter such as this be decided
>by an organisation such as the International Polychaetology Association.

These are my last words on this subject, I hope. Thus, I would also quote
Dr. Bellan and I say:

> "punto e basta"


Thanks again,


Daniel Martin

Dr. Daniel Martin
Centre d'Estudis Avancats de Blanes (C.S.I.C.)
Cami de Sta. Barbara s/n
17300 Blanes, Girona
Spain
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From daemon  Wed Aug 14 15:09:42 1996
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From: nadiapap@imbc.gr (Nadia Papadopoulou)
Subject:       Nereididae/Nephthys v Nephtys


Tom Perkins wrote:
* 1. "the stem for the purposes of the code is found by deleting 
the case ending of the genitive singular."  The genus name Nereis is the
'nominative' singular; the 'genitive' singular of Nereis is Nereidis;
'is' is the case ending; and 'Nereid' is the stem to which 'idae' is
added.
* 2.. "I would prefer that a matter such as this be decided by an 
organization such as the International Poly. Assoc."



I wouldn't want to go on, on Nereididae, any longer, especially after Tom
Perkins's latest message (see * 1 & 2 ). In fact it is because of that, 
that I just couldn't resist saying:
1. "as a Greek, I couldn't agree more",
2. absolutely and 
3. addressing a new subject/name problem: Nephtys versus Nephthys ?!


Nadia Papadopoulou-Smith
nadiapap@imbc.gr
Institute of Marine Biology of Crete

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From: "Geoff Read" <g.read@niwa.cri.nz>
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Organization:  NIWA (Greta Point)
Date:          Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:50:48 +12
Subject:       Undersea caves, sulphur, and annelids

An exotic mix indeed! Continues from a prior paper in the 4th Poly.
Conf. proceedings 1994 (p.323-29). There were no other
polychaete-related outputs within the latest JMBAUK issue.

AU  Southward A J; Kennicutt M C II; Alcala-Herrera J; Abbiati M;
Airoldi L; Cinelli F; Bianchi C N; Morri C; Southward E C. 
PY  1996 
TI  On the biology of submarine caves with sulphur springs: Appraisal of
13C-12C ratios as a guide to trophic relations.
SO  Journal of the Marine Biological Association of the United Kingdom
76 (2)  265-285.
AB  Submarine caves with sulphurous springs at Cape Palinuro,
Campania, Italy, have a richer fauna than expected from the known
oligotrophic nature of the cave habitat. Warm water containing
sulphide issues from springs and rises above the cooler ambient
seawater with a sharp thermocline/chemocline between. The warm water
then escapes from the caves mixed with cooler sea-water, probably
inducing an inflow of ambient sea-water. Bacterial mats, often
dominated by large species of attached bacteria resembling
Beggiatoa, line the upper parts of the inner caves and act as primary
producers ...
 ... Animals living close to the bacterial mats benefit
most, notably a polychaete Phyllochaetopterus [P. socialis], an
oligochaete Thalassodrilides [T. gurwitschii], a podocopid ostracod
Paracypris and certain echinoderms and bivalves. The large sponges
(Geodia, Petrosia) may not benefit from bacterial production.

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From daemon  Thu Aug 15 16:07:17 1996
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From: martin@coast.ucsd.edu (C. Martin)
Subject:       Of Paraonids and Oenonids

Fellow Annelidians,

        First, I cannot seem to find the first paper describing the genus
(or subgenus) _Acmira_.  The only paper that I was able to find was by
Hartmann-Schroeder, G; Hartmann, G (1991).  Also, does anybody know if
there are papers that mention _Acmira_ around the Arabian Sea area.  I
found this critter at 3400 m.

        Second, I wanted to find out more on Oenonidae.  According to the
Worldwide Polychaete Family List compiled by Geoff Read, Oenonidae is not
only a recognized family, but it has also absorbed arabellids and some
former lysaretids.  However, a counterpart of mine was of the opinion that
Oenonidae is now part of Lysaretidae.  Could anybody clarify that for me?

Thanks,
Christopher

C. Martin
Marine Life Research Group 0218
University of California, San Diego
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
9500 Gilman Drive
La Jolla, CA 92093-0218
(619) 534-3579

"WORMS HAVE PLAYED A MORE IMPORTANT PART IN THE HISTORY
OF THE WORLD THAN MOST PEOPLE WOULD AT FIRST SUPPOSE"
             -CHARLES DARWIN
From daemon  Thu Aug 15 17:16:20 1996
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From: "Geoff Read" <g.read@niwa.cri.nz>
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Date:          Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:06:56 +12
Subject:       Re: Of Paraonids and Oenonids

 Christopher Martin asked:
>         Second, I wanted to find out more on Oenonidae.  According to the
> Worldwide Polychaete Family List compiled by Geoff Read, Oenonidae is not
> only a recognized family, but it has also absorbed arabellids and some
> former lysaretids.  However, a counterpart of mine was of the opinion that
> Oenonidae is now part of Lysaretidae.  Could anybody clarify that for me?

Firstly, I am pleased the web list (at
http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/pc-fam.html) is circulating.
Comments and corrections are always welcome. It would certainly help
with queries like the one above  if I added citations for the latest
lit. and I hope to do this sometime.

The somewhat complicated oenonid situation is well summarised in
Brigitte Hilbig's recent (Dec 1995) chapter on Oenonidae  (Tax. Atlas
... Santa Barbara. vol. 5:315). In very brief -- "Orensanz (1990) ...
transferred Lysarete to the Lumbrineridae ... merged Arabellidae
with Oenonidae, the latter being the older name. The families
Lysaretidae and Arabellidae are therefore no longer recognised."

I believe I heard a rumour that this rearrangement was subject of
some debate in the Californian taxonomy group SCAMIT. Is that correct
(I may be confused here with another topic)? If there are alternative
proposals underway or recently published from any source I would be
interested to hear about them.

--
Geoff Read             <g.read@niwa.cri.nz>
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From daemon  Thu Aug 15 19:49:29 1996
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From: jablake@ix.netcom.com (JAMES ALAN BLAKE)
Subject:       Re: Of Paraonids and Oenonids

In reply to Christopher Martin, 

You wrote: 

>First, I cannot seem to find the first paper describing the genus
>(or subgenus) _Acmira_.  The only paper that I was able to find was by
>Hartmann-Schroeder, G; Hartmann, G (1991).  Also, does anybody know if
>there are papers that mention _Acmira_ around the Arabian Sea area.  I
>found this critter at 3400 m.

Hartley, J.P. 1981: JMBAUK 61:133-149, determined that Acesta was 
preoccupied in the Mollusca and renamed the genus Acmira.

Geoff Read has correctly addressed your question on the composition of 
the Oeonidae.  As much as I like the name Arabellidae, that family name 
must be suppressed in favor of Oenonidae.  Orensanz (1990) has revised 
this group.  As Geoff notes, the taxonomic history is nicely reviewed 
by Brigitte Hilbig in the vol. of the Tax. Atlas.

Have a good day, 

Jim Blake
(jablake@ix.netcom.com)
From daemon  Fri Aug 16 15:46:56 1996
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:44:48 -0500
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From: "Gary R. Gaston" <bygaston@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu>
Subject: Paraonidae

>From: martin@coast.ucsd.edu (C. Martin)
>Subject:       Of Paraonids and Oenonids

>Fellow Annelidians,

>        First, I cannot seem to find the first paper describing the genus
>(or subgenus) _Acmira_.  The only paper that I was able to find was by
>Hartmann-Schroeder, G; Hartmann, G (1991).  Also, does anybody know if
>there are papers that mention _Acmira_ around the Arabian Sea area.  I
>found this critter at 3400 m.

Hartley corrected the subgenus name of _Acesta_ to _Acmira_, since the
former was preoccupied in Mollusca.  I don't mean to be promotional, BUT
there is a review of the subgenera of _Aricidea_ and a table describing
the species of _Aricidea_ (_Allia_) in a recent publication authored by me
and Jerry McLelland:

Aricidea (Allia) bryani, a new species...Gulf of Mexico.  1996.  Gulf
Research Reports 9:189-195.

available from the address below:

Gary R. Gaston
Biology Department 
University of Mississippi
University, MS 38677 USA
<bygaston@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu>





l. Hauchiella is totally
achaetous, but there is no doubt about its being an polycirrin terebellid.
A feature of Terebellidae not mentioned, is that the tentacles rise behind a
constantly everted upper lip. Tentacles and branchiae can often be lost in
preserved specimens, the upper lip never. 



Torleif Holthe
VM, NTNU
Trondheim, Norway
From daemon  Tue Aug 20 01:39:28 1996
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From: Craeymeersch Johan <craeymeersch@cemo.nioo.knaw.nl>
Subject: Harmothoe


Following Tebble and Chambers (1982) -  Polychaetes from Scottish Waters, 
part 1 Family Polynoidae. Royal Scottish Museum Studies, Edinburgh -  to 
identify specimen of Harmothoe, one has to look for bidentate or unidentate 
chaetae. This works very well for larger animals. Younger animals, however, 
only have a few bidentate chaetae, and one has to look very carefully to 
find them. Does anyone know another (easier) way to identify the younger 
specimen?

Johan Craeymeersch
Netherlands Institute of Ecology
Vierstraat 28
4401 EA Yerseke
the Netherlands

craeymeersch@cemo.nioo.knaw.nl


From daemon  Tue Aug 20 16:39:18 1996
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Organization:  Hydrobiology, Biology Dept., Moscow University
From: Igor Jirkov <Jirkov@hydro.bio.msu.su>
Date:          Tue, 20 Aug 96 13:42:09 +0400
Subject:       Re: etymology

Bobretzky, N.V., 18??-1???, Russian? scientist, who e.g. 1875 wrote a paper
together with the French scientist Antoine F. Marion, 1846-1900.
                Goniadella bobretzkii (Annenkova,1922)

Bobretzky Nikolay Vasiljevich 1 April 1843 - 24 November 1907
 Russian zoologist. Graduated from the Kiev University (1866).
 Then worked there. 1877 - professor, chief of the Zoology department
 1900-1907-rector of the University.
   in Russia and USSR - the first person in the High School (University or
   equivalent), who really is the director, chief, manager of the Organization.
   Usually he is elected.
 Main interests: invertebrate embryology (Polychaeta, Crustacea, Insecta,
 Mollusca). Author of 1st Russian manual for universities on Zoology (1884).

Igor Jirkov
jirkov@hydro.bio.msu.su

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To: annelida@net.bio.net
Date:          Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:21:37 +1000
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From: Sebastian Rainer <rainer@ml.csiro.au>
Subject:       Re: Harmothoe

At 10:26 20/08/96 PDT, Johan Craeymeersch wrote:
>
>Following Tebble and Chambers (1982) -  Polychaetes from Scottish Waters, 
>part 1 Family Polynoidae. Royal Scottish Museum Studies, Edinburgh -  to 
>identify specimen of Harmothoe, one has to look for bidentate or unidentate 
>chaetae. This works very well for larger animals. Younger animals, however, 
>only have a few bidentate chaetae, and one has to look very carefully to 
>find them. Does anyone know another (easier) way to identify the younger 
>specimen?

The form and arrangement of elytral macro- and microtubercles is frequently
distinctive for many species of Harmothoe, while colour patterns on the body
and cirri, and on the elytra, will offer further guidance. These criteria
require, of course, that collecting and preserving should be done carefully,
and argue against storage in alcohol before identification.

Sebastian Rainer <rainer@ml.csiro.au>
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To: annelida@net.bio.net
From: "Geoff Read" <g.read@niwa.cri.nz>
Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net
Organization:  NIWA (Greta Point)
Date:          Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:34:15 +12
Subject:       Polychaete Researchers Online - Update request

Hello polychaete folks,

I hope Northerners are gradually coming in from the sun back to
their keyboards as I want to do a general update of the PRO address
list (URL: http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~ worms/pro-new.html  for March
1996 edition), and I have got myself setup to do it relatively
painlessly for everybody. If your details have not changed OR if you
have already sent me a correction then DO NOTHING. I will in a few
days post a DRAFT version to the list for you to check your details
for errors. 

If you have never submitted an entry (open to anyone with research
interests which touch upon polychaetes) then you can do it EASILY by
using the web form:

URL: http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/pro-form.html

Alternatively use the SIMPLIFIED FORM below and e-mail it to me here
at NIWA. If you just want to change your E-mail address or Research
Interest or add a personal web page URL then just fill in those
fields. DO NOT use the address form in earlier versions of PRO (I
can no longer accept those and will not be using same format).
'Research interest' and 'notes' text can be about a screen-full each
in length if necessary (You can use 'notes' for things like
additional addresses, phone numbers and e-mails, WWW URLS, as well
as any other comments.)

I regret the task of getting your information into these forms
EXACTLY as you want it to look is each individual's responsibility.
In other words I usually cannot second-guess what you might want (I
may get into trouble with name-order in multi-part surnames and
which part is the surname/family-name for names of Chinese origin).

Thanks for your help with this and regards to you all,

Geoff Read <g.read@niwa.cri.nz>

New PRO form
------------------
SURNAME: 
Research Interests:
Name and Title: 
Institution:
Street Address & city:
COUNTRY: 
Post code:
E-mail (preferred):
Telephone:
Fax:
WWW home page:
Notes:

[SURNAME example = MCINTOSH]
[Name and Title example  = Professor William C. McIntosh (Ph.D.)]

