From daemon Tue Jan 7 18:27:18 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA28451 Message-Id: <199701080227.SAA28451@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:05:31 +0000 Subject: Welcome to Annelida 1997 - about ANNELIDA list PLEASE SAVE this service message for future reference, after reading it first of course! ANNELIDA on BIOSCI-SERVER@NET.BIO.NET - Annelid Worm Research ANNELIDA is an open moderated list discussing the scientific study of Phylum Annelida and of other worms with annelid affinities, encompassing the polychaetes, the clitellates (oligochaetes and leeches), the pogonophora, vestimentifera, sipunculans, and echiurids. To subscribe send the following line in the body of an e-mail to . (The server software is 'majordomo') subscribe annelida You will receive back an introductory message that will further explain how ANNELIDA operates. 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Remember that ANNELIDA messages can take many hours to reach all members. The list software sends out messages one-by-one. Also the server can sometimes be overloaded or temporarily offline. There will be additional delays (especially between 1100 and 1900 gmt) while the moderator is not online. If you have WWW access you can view archives of past messages and also check if your message has been released. URL:http://www.bio.net/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Go directly to any month's postings at bionet archives by adding 4 digits for the year and month to the above URL. Thus for December 1996: URL:http://www.bio.net/hypermail/ANNELIDA/9612/ ANNELIDA is moderated mainly so that junk mail (broadcast net advertising or 'spam'), misdirected personal messages, and abusive messages are not forwarded to everybody on the list. Well-meant but off-topic mail might be forwarded, but at the discretion of the moderator. Confusing, poorly-formatted, or unsigned messages may be summarily 'improved' or returned to sender for redrafting. (In fact to the relief of the moderator it is rarely necessary for any intervention). Policy enquiries should be addressed to: ANNELIDA Moderator: Geoff Read More information on Annelid (polychaetes, etc) research resources is at: http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/annelid.html These web pages are independent of ANNELIDA mailing list (except that ANNELIDA moderator and Annelid Resources pages maintainer are the same person at present). Contributions are very welcome. Not only do I not have all the time and expertise I need to add exciting new material myself, but also I would like to see the resources pages develop in future more as a community project. Polychaete Researchers Online edition six was published on Jan 1st. URL:http://www.keil.ukans.edu/~worms/pro.html Please e-mail me if and when your information needs further updating. Thank you for your attention, and again best wishes to all for 1997. -- Geoff Read From daemon Wed Jan 8 00:02:11 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA28143 Message-Id: <199701080802.AAA28143@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:05:15 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Sean Kinane Subject: Marine Biology Links: change of URL Hello, The address of the web page: Marine Biology Links has changed. The new URL is: http://www.iag.net/~seank/marbio.html (The old was http://www2.hawaii.edu/wormlab/marbio.html) Apologies for cross-postings. Sean -- Sean Kinane seank@iag.net http://www.iag.net/~seank/sean.html and defense and finally how it reproduces and disperses. Thanking you before, Yours truly, Ludwig Flask From daemon Wed Jan 8 11:57:57 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA20668 Message-Id: <199701081957.LAA20668@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 08:29:41 -0500 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Kristian Fauchald Subject: Welcome to Annelida 1997 - about ANNELIDA list -Reply I would like to thank Geoff for doing an excellent job on ANNELIDA and especially for taking the effort of keeping all the random stuff out of the mailings: They are a pest on many other lists and one reason why I subscribe to few of them (I get enough junk phone calls!) My reason for responding at this point is mainly that I would like to remind the polychaete people of the meeting in Brasil next year: It may look like it is too soon to make decisions about travel in August 1998, but having arranged meetings for another society, I know how important it is for the meeting arranger to know the maximum group to expect. Thus, if you believe you have interesting results to talk about (or will have them by that time) and you are interested in meeting other polychaete people, this is an excellent opportunity. I would suggest sending in a response to the first flyer, just so that you are sure to be kept informed about what happens. Kristian Fauchald NHB MRC 163 Smithsonian Institution Washington, DC 20560 USA Tel. (202)357-4757; FAX (202)357-3043 e-mail Fauchald.Kristian@nmnh.si.edu el: +49-(0)541-969-2859 Fax: +49-(0)541-969-2870 From daemon Thu Jan 9 12:05:32 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA01770 Message-Id: <199701092005.MAA01770@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 11:27:18 -0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Paulo da Cunha Lana Organization: Centro de Estudos do Mar Subject: Meeting arranger agrees completely with Fauchald Kristian Fauchald stated in a recent e-mail to Annelida: >... I would like to remind the polychaete people of the meeting in >Brasil next year: It may look like it is too soon to make decisions >about travel in August 1998, but having arranged meetings for another >society, I know how important it is for the meeting arranger to know the >maximum group to expect... I would suggest sending in a >response to the first flyer, just so that you are sure to be kept >informed about what happens. Kristian's comments are most welcome. I have received up to now about 90 registration forms for the next conference, including e-mails, faxes and surface mail. Though we are still far from August 1998 (are we?) it will be essential to have reliable information on the number of expected people (plus or minus 25 polychaetologists, not including parapodia, is a tolerable deviation) by the end of February 1997. This will help the Organizing Committee in making the most adequate arrangements for the scientific meeting proper, besides negotiating prices with hotels and planning middle and post-conference excursions. Remember that titles of papers need not be final at this time. It is my intention to make available, through e-mail, ANNELIDA and the conference WWW site, a complete list of registered people by the first week of March. The second circular will be sent only to those who have returned the reply form included in the first announcement. I wish all the best to all of you in '97. Paulo Lana lana@aica.cem.ufpr.br From daemon Sun Jan 12 14:21:25 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA25271 Message-Id: <199701122221.OAA25271@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 02:00:07 -0800 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: BIOSCI Administrator Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser (LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95) This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up the *most frequently*. The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/. If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet information searches or answer scientific questions. 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If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. ----------------------------------------------------------- Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have not already done so. You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL http://www.bio.net/adrform.html. The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is http://www.bio.net/). If you are not directly on the Internet but can reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user directory. waismail use is described above. You can also request a user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net. Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your address information is still up-to-date. Because of our limited personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have resources to edit old forms. Sincerely, Dave Kristofferson BIOSCI/bionet Manager biosci-help@net.bio.net From daemon Tue Jan 14 13:53:11 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA09640 Message-Id: <199701142153.NAA09640@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:37:05 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: dani@ceab.es (Daniel Martin) Subject: coral reef symbiont worms Dear colleagues, We are interested in having additional information (e.g., ecology of the relationships, references) concerning some polychaetes mentioned as coral and/or sponge associates in the book "REEF CREATURE IDENTIFICATION. FLORIDA, CARIBBEAN BAHAMAS" by Paul Human (Ned Deloach ed.). Dr. Pettibone and Dr. Perkins were mentioned as the responsible for the polychaete identification (scaleworms and others, respectively). More concretely, the partners we are interested on are: - the sponge Neofibularia nolitangere with Haplosyllis sp. and Hydroides spongicola, - the coral Stephanocenia michelini with a new species (?) of Vermiliopsis. Any information well be welcomed, particularly on the following two points: 1.- Who described Hydroides spongicola, and in which paper? 2.- Are the non-identified serpulid currently described? Thank you very much in advance, Daniel Martin and Temir A. Britayev. Dr. Daniel Martin Centre d'Estudis Avancats de Blanes (C.S.I.C.) Cami de Sta. Barbara s/n 17300 Blanes, Girona Spain FAX: 34 72 337806 Phone: 34 72 336101 WWW page: http://www.ceab.es From daemon Tue Jan 14 19:22:40 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA15981 Message-Id: <199701150322.TAA15981@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 21:49:04 CST Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Luis Fernando Carrera-Parra" Subject: Re: coral reef symbiont worms On Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:37:05 +0200, Daniel Martin wrote: > >Any information well be welcomed, particularly on the following two points: > 1.- Who described Hydroides spongicola, and in which paper? Hydroides spongicola Benedict 1887 Benedict, J.E. 1887. Descriptions of ten species and one genus of annelids from the dredgings of the U.S. Fish Commission Steamer Albatross. Proceedings of United States National Museum. 9:547-553. Best wishes!!! Luis F. Carrera-Parra Depto. Ecologia Acuatica ECOSUR-Chetumal Apdo. Postal 424 Chetumal, Q.R. 77000 MEXICO From daemon Thu Jan 16 13:12:36 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA08641 Message-Id: <199701162112.NAA08641@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:16:18 +0100 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: hove@bio.uva.nl (Harry A. ten Hove) Subject: Re: coral reef symbiont worms >Dear colleagues, > >We are interested in having additional information (e.g., ecology of the >relationships, references) concerning some polychaetes mentioned as coral >and/or sponge associates in the book "REEF CREATURE IDENTIFICATION. >FLORIDA, CARIBBEAN BAHAMAS" by Paul Human (Ned Deloach ed.). Dr. >Pettibone and Dr. Perkins were mentioned as the responsible for the >polychaete identification (scaleworms and others, respectively). > >More concretely, the partners we are interested on are: > - the sponge Neofibularia nolitangere with Haplosyllis sp. and >Hydroides spongicola, > - the coral Stephanocenia michelini with a new species (?) of >Vermiliopsis. > >Any information well be welcomed, particularly on the following two points: > 1.- Who described Hydroides spongicola, and in which paper? > 2.- Are the non-identified serpulid currently described? > >Thank you very much in advance, > > Daniel Martin and Temir A. Britayev. 160196 As for 1.- you already have an answer. Presently I am finishing (with Tom Perkins) a paper on Floridean Hydroides, in which a redescription is given of H. spongicola, with full synonymy and a short ecological note. Students of my sponge colleague dr. Rob van Soest once did a study on Neofib., unfortunately unpublished, but a very brief account of their results is included in mentioned manuscript. The association with syllids was mentioned too by COLIN, P.L. 1978.- Caribbean reef invertebrates and plants. As for 2.- the answer is no. Vermiliopsis as such has proven to be too difficult for my liking (see HOVE, H.A. TEN, 1994.- Serpulidae ( Annelida: Polychaeta) from the Seychelles and Amirante Islands. In: Oceanic Reefs of the Seychelles. Cruise Reports Neth. Indian Ocean Program, II (ed. J. van der Land), Nat. Nat. Mus. Leiden, p.107-116, 1 table). When Tom Perkins consulted me regarding Humann's material (summer 1991), there were some discrepancies between his observations and mine, and the material as far as sent to me was insufficient (e.g. lacking the operculum) for a more definite determination. One should keep in mind that about 8 nominal species of Vermiliopsis have been described from the Caribbean, and I did not have the types available for comparison. Most of the observed characters at that time (and later confirmed by SEM of chaetae and uncini) pointed to Vermiliopsis spec. rather than to Pseudovermilia madracicola (HOVE, H.A. TEN, 1989.- Serpulinae (Polychaeta) from the Caribbean : VI- Pseudovermilia madracicola sp.n., a symbiont of corals. Studies in honour of Dr.Pieter Wagenaar Hummelinck, Found. Sci. Res. Surinam Neth. Ant. 123: 135-144, 32 figs.), however not to one of the two species that can be discerned under the name "Vermiliopsis annulata" (see HOVE, H.A. TEN, & G. SAN MARTIN, 1995. - Serpulidae (Polychaeta) procedentes de la I Expedicion Cubano-Espanola a la Isla de la Juventud y Archipielago de los Canarreos (Cuba). Studies Nat. Hist. Caribbean Region 72: 13-24.). However unsatisfactory it may be, for the time being I still cannot do better than "Vermiliopsis spec.". Wormly, Harry A. ten Hove Institute for Systematics and Populationbiology Zoological Museum, University of Amsterdam POB 94766, 1090 GT AMSTERDAM tel. 3120 5256906 fax. 3120 5255402 Email: hove@bio.uva.nl From daemon Mon Jan 20 12:55:05 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA07848 Message-Id: <199701202055.MAA07848@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Cutlereb@aol.com Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:42:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Echiura - Greetings, I am in the process of preparing an application for a PEET grant from NSF. If successful there will be support for a grad student and a PostDoc in the MCZ, Harvard, to develop expertise in the systematics/taxonomy of Sipuncula and Echiura. While I have a pretty good sense of where un-named sipunculans are I need your help with locating existing collections of Echiura, named and Un-Named. If you know of any (other than at the Smithsonian) could you please pass along to me the present location, where they were collected, and approximate number of individuals - or whatever you know. Thanks for your attention - Regards, Ed Edward B. Cutler / Invert. Dept. MCZ, Harvard CutlerEB@aol.com -- ANNELIDA LIST Server address = biosci-server@net.bio.net (un/subscribes) Discussion address = annelida@net.bio.net (talk to all members) List archives = URL:http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ From daemon Tue Jan 21 15:15:30 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA21868 Message-Id: <199701212315.PAA21868@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:31:29 +1100 Subject: Re: Echiura - Personal replies Please no more personal replies to Dr Cutler (and other people) misdirected to ANNELIDA. I have forwarded those that came in. Remember, if you press 'reply' then the 'reply-to' often defaults to the list itself. Please check you are sending the message exactly where you want to send it before pressing the 'send' key. (I am not immune to this trap but I usually negotiate it 99% of the time. ;-) ) Having said that, information of general interest, or answers to questions that will save other people the bother of answering them, should always be sent to the list. Moderator, -- Geoff Read From daemon Tue Jan 21 21:51:14 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA02841 Message-Id: <199701220551.VAA02841@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:44:57 +1100 Subject: Subphylum Clitellata Annelida devotees, I see there is a school which elevates the clitellates to a subphylum (ref below). Presumably that makes the polychaetes a subphylum too (if not something different altogether under future/present Rouse-Fauchaldian analysis) - or does it? Is this inflationary nomenclature, callously unmindful of textbook and encyclopedia writers whose works become obsolete overnight, or a move of deep and fundamental significance we should all adopt? Gelder,Stuart R (1996): A review of the taxonomic nomenclature and a checklist of the species of the Branchiobdellae (Annelida: Clitellata). Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington 109(4), 653-663. Geoff -- Geoff Read From daemon Wed Jan 22 00:54:59 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA21190 Message-Id: <199701220854.AAA21190@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:44:01 +0000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: A.Grant@uea.ac.uk (Alastair Grant) Subject: Re: Subphylum Clitellata >I see there is a school which elevates the clitellates to a subphylum Based on molecular work, I would be more inclined to put Clitellata on a par with polychaete families, or at most somewhere between a family and an "order". Alastair Grant School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia, Norwich, UK. Phone 01603 592537 Fax 01603 507719 Email: A.Grant@uea.ac.uk WWW: http://www.uea.ac.uk/~e130/ag.htm From daemon Tue Jan 28 14:06:22 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA04114 Message-Id: <199701282206.OAA04114@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:23:05 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Edwin Cruz-Rivera Subject: Carribean Intertidal Worms Hi all, In a recent trip to Puerto Rico, I was surprised by the relatively high number of polychaetes I was finding on intertidal seaweeds from the North Coast. Because this was a leisure trip, all I could do was some really basic collections to simply see what was out there (for future reference). However, there is nothing really that I can do with these guys and I am willing to donate them to anyone who could find them useful. If there is anyone dealing with distributions of intertidal worms, and would find these samples of any use, I will mail them to you (only if you eventually tell me what you found). Regards, Edwin Cruz-Rivera Ph (919) 726-6841 Institute of Marine Sciences Fax (919) 726-2426 University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill email: ecruzriv@email.unc.edu 3431 Arendell Street Morehead City, NC 28557 -- ANNELIDA LIST Server address = biosci-server@net.bio.net (un/subscribes) Discussion address = annelida@net.bio.net (talk to all members) List archives = URL:http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ From daemon Wed Jan 29 12:32:09 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA25285 Message-Id: <199701292032.MAA25285@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: jirkov@IJirkov.home.bio.msu.ru (I. A. Jirkov) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:24:31 +0300 (MSK) Subject: changing of address Dear colleagues, Please note, that I have three e-mail addresses: jirkov@IJirkov.home.bio.msu.ru jirkov@1.hydro.bio.msu.ru jirkov@hydro.bio.msu.su Last - the oldest, so su (Soviet Union) other ones younger, so ru (Russia). All addresses are functioning, but the last is not free for me (I should pay for traffic only), so I keep it for those, who have no others. Second address - my office. But I feel more convenient to work with e-mail at home, so the first address is the best one. Igor Jirkov -- ANNELIDA LIST Server address = biosci-server@net.bio.net (un/subscribes) Discussion address = annelida@net.bio.net (talk to all members) List archives = URL:http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/