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Subject:       David W. Kirtley


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I have just been informed that my father, David W. Kirtley has passed 
away. I do not have the relevant e-mail addresses to inform the 
people who my father has been working with over the years to inform 
them of his passing. I know that most of the people he was working 
with over the years are readers of your list and thought that this 
would be an appropriate place to send the information.

Thank you.

David D. Kirtley


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Subject:       Re: David W. Kirtley

Dear friends,

This is very distressing news. There will be many of us who know of
David, who was I believe primarily a geologist, and  corresponded with him
concerning the polychaete side of his many interests during his devoted
pursuit of the Sabellariidae, culminating in his impressive taxonomic
monograph of 1994. Perhaps some who worked with him will be able to talk
about his life and work for us. I never met him in person, but I did
greatly enjoy his letters and support in the short time I knew him and am
much saddened he is no longer with us. I will miss him.

Geoff Read

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From: jablake@ix.netcom.com (JAMES A. BLAKE)
Subject:       Re: David W. Kirtley

Dear friends, 

I too am saddened by the passing of David Kirtley.  I was aware that he 
had health problems, but I understand he insisted on carrying on with 
his research as best he could.  I can share a few moments.

David used to call me from time to time asking if I had specimens of 
sabellariids from one place or another or could help him locate some 
obscure record. From me, he was hoping to learn about the availability 
of deep-sea specimens.  

After publication of the first polychaete volume of our Taxonomic Atlas 
he called one day to inquire about the plate of larvae of Phragmatopoma 
I had published in the Polychaete Introductory chapter.  He was worried 
about the number and orientation of the feeding tentacles, as I recall. 
Being as how I had made those illustrations 20 yrs earlier, I could 
barely remember drawing them.  But in any case, we did have a great 
discussion about the biology of larval and juvenile sabellariids.  I 
found him a very careful and thoughtful person with an eye for detail.

David was trained as a geologist and as such he was very interested in 
the role sabellariids play in preventing erosion along the shore. As a 
resident of Florida, beach erosion and beach nourishment are big 
issues.  I was recently involved in a project at Cape Canaveral that 
included beach nourishment issues.  In reading the Environmental Impact 
documents, I found a letter that David had submitted to the agency of 
concern presenting details of the possible impacts of relocating sand 
from one location to another on the resident sabellariid populations. 
He presented some information that was completely new to me; I suspect 
that there are quite a few EISs in Florida that contain letters from 
David. 

We will miss him.

Sincerely, 

Jim Blake
ENSR, 89 Water Street
Woods Hole, MA 02543


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From: Paulo da Cunha Lana <lana@cem.ufpr.br>
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Subject:       Re: David W. Kirtley

As far as it goes with Southamerican polychaetologists, David Kirtley
has always been a most kind and helpful colleague. His efforts were
fundamental to improve our knowledge of local Sabellariidae. It was his
intention  to present a paper titled  'Sabellariidae in modern and
ancient seas' at the next polychaete conference. I believe that after
the completion of his impressive taxonomical monograph this would be a
synthesis of his thoughts on the biogeography of the group. He will
surely be missed in our next meeting. I will miss him personally.

Paulo Lana
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From: KevinE@maine.maine.edu (Kevin J. Eckelbarger)
Subject:       In Memory of David Kirtley

        I was distressed to learn of the recent death of David Kirtley. Dave
and I were colleagues at Harbor Branch Oceanographic Inst. in Ft. Pierce,
Florida during the 1970's and we shared a laboratory and office for several
years. He was in many ways a mentor and he helped stimulate my interest in
polychaete biology. We conducted research together and we spent endless
hours in the field collecting sabellariid polychaetes. He was without a
doubt a very unusual and unique fellow.

        In many ways, Dave was responsible for getting me my first research
job. I was writing my Ph.D. dissertation at Northeastern University (Boston)
on the reproductive biology of Nicolea zostericola when the phone rang one
afternoon in 1973. It was Dave Kirtley cheerfully asking if I'd be
interested in a job in Florida studying the biology of sabellariid
polychaetes as part of a collaborative beach erosion project with the Univ.
of Florida. He had been asked to recruit a polychaete biologist and I had
the good fortune to get the call.  As I recall, Dave learned of my work from
my M.A. advisor, Don Reish, but the phone call was almost a random act on
Dave's part. That call changed my life. Dave had actually called D.P. Wilson
in Plymouth to ask him if HE wanted the job! Unfortunately for Harbor
Branch, Wilson preferred England so they got stuck with me. One thing led to
another and I ended up at Harbor Branch sharing a project with Dave for
several years. 

        When I first arrived in Florida, I had not completed my dissertation
and Dave pushed me hard to finish up so we could plunge into sabellariid
biology together. He was finishing his Ph.D. rather late in life so, despite
a great difference in age, we both defended our dissertations just a few
weeks apart. Dave eventually left Harbor Branch in the late 1970's but I
remained for another 18 years and we saw each other off and on. We chatted
on the phone several times in recent years - the last time just a few months
ago. Although I had long since departed the world of sabellariids, he
continued to pick my brain about matters that troubled him. I visited D.P.
Wilson at his home in Plymouth right before his death in the late 1980's and
he wanted to know all about David Kirtley because Dave had exchanged many
letters with him. Wilson was pleased that someone was continuing to do
research on sabellariids and that Dave had taken the time to write an old
man in his final years. Dave was a humble fellow when it came to his
research and he was always careful to give credit to pioneers.  This was
reflected in the "Acknowledgments" of his 1974 dissertation:
        "Should this account of the writer's research prove to be useful to
subsequent workers, the credit must go to those scientists and laymen who,
since at least as long ago as 1711, have made their notes, observations and
insight concerning the modern Sabellariidae and their possible fossil
homologues available to science through publication. It is their devoted
work that forms the scientific basis for this study. Where there are
inadequacies and perhaps mistakes in this synthesis of published accounts
and original research, the writer acknowledges them as his very own"

        Dave Kirtley easily qualified as a "character". My first meeting
with him in 1973 left me wondering what I was getting myself into but as I
got to know him better, I soon discovered that he was a delightful and
complex fellow. On the surface, he seemed to be a little nuts some days and
he was perpetually engaged in mysterious plots and schemes. He was a world
traveler and a bon vivant who had an insatiable curiosity about the natural
world. He also lived life to the fullest and sometimes to excess. When I
first discovered that he was getting his Ph.D. in geology, I assumed he
didn't know much about biology - particularly invertebrates. I was very
wrong. As far as I could tell, Dave was a self-taught biologist but he read
widely and we held endless debates in our office about evolution and
invertebrate biology. Dave opened my eyes to the world of geology and
paleobiology. He had what seemed to be a photographic memory and he could
recite long passages verbatim from obscure works. He had been an Oklahoma
oil field "wild catter" who was familiar with the rough and tumble world of
Oklahoma  "roughnecks". Although he looked like a rogue himself some days -
a huge fellow with a deep voice and sunburn to match - he had a sharp mind
and the field of geology merely served as a backdrop to his real love -
polychaete biology. Invertebrate paleontology was a life long fascination
for him and he was definitely obsessed with the Sabellariidae! He wrote his
dissertation on a desk next to mine ("Geological Significance of the
Sabellariidae" - Florida State Univ., 1974) and I watched him struggle
through endless drawings of tubes and adult specimens. When I bought a new
photomicroscope to study sabellariid larvae and histological sections of
gonads, he began feeding me material to photograph for him. Although he had
no experience with histology, he examined every slide I ever produced from a
sabellariid - and he quickly learned all about their internal morphology.
There were no details too trivial for his eye. I soon found myself learning
from him and I developed a respect for his ideas and opinions. I also
learned a great deal about geology and paleontology by reading all the
literature he regularly dumped in my lap. We shared a 10' x 10' office 
that was so packed with sabellariid specimens from around the planet that 
it was nearly impossible to move!

        Dave was very comfortable with people and I always thought he could
have been a millionnaire if he had gone into used car sales. He had a way
with words, as they say. He was a charmer who could talk you into doing
things you would never consider until he had you cornered. He was very
articulate and was fluent in several languages so he moved easily in foreign
circles. He liked people and he had charisma to burn. He was also a dreamer
and a schemer and he used his natural "people skills" to arm-twist others
into helping him with his various research causes. We both gave hundreds of
talks on sabellariid biology throughout south Florida - mostly to the public
but often to officials who were concerned about beach erosion control. Dave
was passionate about developing new ways to control erosion through
biological means and with the force of his personality, he managed to find
people willing to support him. In his endless quest for research support, he
had dealings with both the high and the mighty - and sometimes the
questionable - in an effort to secure funding for his dream projects. He was
a survivor and he managed to continue his sabellariid research despite a
general lack of interest by others. I admired his persistence and his
infectious enthusiasm for polychaetes.

        I will always remember Dave as something of a father figure in my
formative years following graduate school. He had lived a lot more of life
than I had at that point and his worldly experience was attractive to a dull
Indiana farm boy who was just beginning a career in marine science. It was
perhaps not generally known that Dave had a number of lingering health
problems that periodically forced him from the lab. He suffered from
war-related injuries that caused him great pain some days and he was
supposed to carefully watch his diet - which he rarely did. Dave always
plunged ahead in life and damn the consequences! However, even on days when
he was feeling ill, you could still engage him in a discussion if you had
something new to say about sabellariids. 

        Dave Kirtley made an indelible impression on me and we have all lost
a champion of polychaete biology. Sabellariids never had a better friend. He
loved the following quote (J.W. v. Goethe) from "Faustus", Part I and he
included it in the introduction to his dissertation - it seems appropriate
to repeat it here:

                "How can such hope dwell in one who digs through trash, with
                 eager hands,  and is delighted to find worms?"


Regards to all,

Kevin J. Eckelbarger
Kevin J. Eckelbarger
Darling Marine Center
University of Maine
25 Clark's Cove Rd.
Walpole, Maine 04573

Phone: 207-563-3146 (ext. 203)
Fax: 207-563-3119
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From: nadiapap@imbc.gr (Nadia Papadopoulou)
Subject:       polychaete feeding

Dear Annelidians,

I work at the Institute of Marine Biology of Crete as a polychaete
taxonomist (html: //www.imbc.gr/) and at the same time I'm registered for a
PhD on shelf, slope & deep sea polychaetes (100-1600 m) from quantitative
boxcore samples (0.1 m2, 0.5 mm sieve size, 5 replicates/station) from the
Aegean in the framework of 2 EC supported MAST projects (MAST II: CINCS &
MAST III: MATER). So far the emphasis was on spatial, temporal, vertical
(0-5, 5-10, 10-20 cm in the sediment) & bathymetric distributional patterns
of polychaetes & polychaete feeding types (acc. to Fauchald & Jumars 1979)
in relation to environmental parameters (sediment chla, TOC, TON, ATP,
carbohydrates, lipids, proteins, bacterial biomass). Now I would like to
put more towards functional aspects and especially feeding. I have two more
sets of samples coming in (Sept 97 & Feb 98, 400 - 2200 m, 0.25 m2, 0.5 &
0.3 mm sieve sizes, 5 replicates/station) and I would really like to try
and learn more about my dominant species (tiny: Pholoides dorsipapillatus,
Levinsenia gracilis, Galathowenia oculata, medium sized: Paradiopatra sp.
and Terebellides stroemi) both in terms of how they're feeding and what are
they feeding upon. 

Any ideas, suggestions, tips on gut contents analysis (especially for small
animals) and or /ive observations, thoughts on the topic of polychaete
feeding, contacts will be of great help and greatly appreciated.
Many thanks

Nadia
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Nadia Papadopoulou-Smith
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From: Thomas Moertelmaier <syrphtom@wst.edvz.sbg.ac.at>
Subject:       Taxonomic status of E. foetida

Dear colleagues,

Apparently I have a problem with putting Eisenia foetida into a correct
taxonomic rank. Could you by any means help me, to find out, which is the
correct (meaning actual) name of this worm or where I can get proper
information about this species.

Thanks a lot in advance, my best wishes

Thomas
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Date:          Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:29:11 +1100
Subject:       (Fwd) Proceedings of 5th conference


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Subject:       Proceedings of 5th conference

Dear Geoff

Would you please put this information on the Polychaete and/or annelid
online?

The proceedings of the 5th polychaete conference has been published by the
Bulletin of Marine Science.  All those people who published a paper in the
proceedings and was the first author will receive a free copy of the Bulletin
from the editor of the Bulletin.  Those additional people who paid
registration fee (you, for example, Geoff) will receive a free copy from me.
 I will start mailing them out beginning July 15.  Those people who do not
fall into the above groups who were referees of the papers will receive a
free copy from me in appreciation for their efforts.  Finally, copies are
available from me at US$35.00 which includes handling and postage.  You can
pay by sending US$35.00 drawn on a U.S. Bank made out to Polychaete
Conference and send to me or you can charge it on either VISA or MasterCard
(no other plastic companies) by sending me the name on the account, the
account number and the expiration date.  You can either mail me the
information, FAX me (562-985-5846) or send by e-mail (DJR@aol.com).

Thanks Geoff. 

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From: Bill Moser <MNHIV073@sivm.si.edu>
Subject:       Polychaete ID's


Dear Annelid Folks,

A colleage asked me to post this letter on the Annelida discussion
list. Please respond directly to Allegra Small
(small.allegra@nmnh.si.edu).

<<Syllidae and Capitellidae specialists,

I am with the Smithsonian's Marine Systems Laboratory.  We are
currently attempting to identify all of the organisms in our 130
gallon Caribbean coral reef system.  I have collected polychaetes I
believe to be  in the Syllidae and Capitellidae families, but have yet
to find a specialist to identify them for me.

I would certainly appreciate it if I could send  these specimens to
someone who could help with their identification.

The bulk (90%+) of the collections for this tank were taken from
Mayaguana in 1991.  Since that time we have had only a few specific
additions into the system mostly from other Caribbean
locations, but occasionally a Pacific item. We believe that very few
other organisms were introduced into the system when these small
additions were made, and therefore,  the specimens I would send
are most likely from Mayaguana.


Allegra M. Small                          phone: 202-357-3166
Marine Systems Laboratory           fax: 202-357-3037
Smithsonian Institution                 email: small.allegra@nmnh.si.edu
NHB E-119 MRC 164
Washington D.C. 20560>>

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Subject:       Extracting polydorids
Date:          Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:13:53 +1000

Hello all,

I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to extract polydorids
(and other polychaetes) from their holes in corraline algae, without
damage to the worms.  (The samples are of live specimens).  I am
experimenting with letting the water become anoxic, in the hope that the
worms will become desperate enough to leave their holes.  Chipping away
at the algae mostly results in broken and squashed worms.

(Not that I am especially interested in polydorids myself, but I am
trying to help out a student who wants to know roughly what is living in
her algal substrate.)

bye

Robin

Robin Wilson			
Museum of Victoria
71 Victoria Crescent
Abbotsford  3067
Australia  

telephone (61) 3 9284 0216; fax (61) 3 9416 0475
rwilson@mov.vic.gov.au
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From: "Harry A. ten Hove" <hove@bio.uva.nl>
Subject:       Re: Extracting polydorids


>I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to extract polydorids


I had moderately success with adding a few drops of formalin to the
seawater. This will force quite a few cryptic animals out of their crevices.

wormly

Harry A. ten Hove
Institute for Systematics and Populationbiology
Zoological Museum, University of Amsterdam
POB 94766, 1090 GT AMSTERDAM

TEL. 3120 5256906
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Subject:       Re: Extracting polydorids

I have had very good luck using magnesium chloride to extract worms from
corals, shells, and other hard substrata. If you make up a solution of MgCl2
that is isotonic to the water you are holding the worms in and submerge the
material in the solution, the worms will relax and can be sucked out of their
burrows with a pipette. The more concentrated the MgCl, the faster the worms
will relax but the survival of extracted worms is better with slightly
hypotonic MgCl. Worms that relax quickly (like most spionids) can be removed
from their burrows and placed back into normal seawater with full recovery. 

Good luck!

Stanley A. Rice
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Date:          Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:04:05 -1000
Subject:       Re: Extracting polydorids

    Hi, If not fussy about dead or alive, formalin fixation of 
coralline material is one way to go. Worms are a bit tougher and less 
likely to fall apart when pushing and chipping them from the rock. 
For quantitative estimate of substrate content can acid dissolve from 
fixed substrate and then sort and count them. 4 percent nitric acid 
in the formalin solution (ie 4 of acid in 96 dilute formalin) with some 
agitation or stirring of small to moderate size rubble (surface to 
vol is important if you want it to dissolve fairly fast). Use a nytex 
mesh over the pvc plastic pipe as container so solution can 
penetrate. Or we do small samples in plastic food containers 
keep covered and swirl and add fresh solution when dissolution 
slows. Rinse dissolved out worms onto a sieve and store in 70 
percent ethanol. Once student has a feel for the pickled worms it may 
be easier to work with the live. See Brock,R. and J.Brock 1977 
Limnology and Oceanography vol 22 (5) 948-951. A method for 
quantitatively assessing the infaunal community in coral rock. 
Somehow true borers are reluctant to leave the burrow and usually die 
in it, while nestlers will oblige when the oxygen runs low. Kohn did 
the chip method with much patience on preserved substrate.  Aloha and 
thanks for your input on the Hesionura ???? Julie Brock

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Date:          Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:34:27 GMT+1200
Subject:       Re: Extracting polydorids

> I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to extract polydorids

A method I have used to extract spionids from oysters is the use of 
the vermifuges: 0.5% phenol and/or 0.25% di-dichlorobenzene in 
seawater. The worms are expelled from their host if left overnight in 
these solutions.  Caution is advised working with di-chlorobenzene... 

For further reading on vermifuges and acid dissolution of coral see:

MacKenzie, C.L.; Shearer, L.W. 1959: Chemical control of Polydora
websteri and other annelids inhabiting oyster shells. Proceedings -
National Shellfisheries Association 50: 105-111.

Brock, R.E. and Brock, J.H. 1977: A method for quantitatively 
assessing the infaunal community in coral rock. Limnol.Oceanogr. 
22:948-951, . 

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I am a master student in Zoology Department of Hacettepe University,
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Turkey yet. I need a support for this study. I would greatly appreciate if
any one is interested in supporting my works and sharing the data
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Date:          Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:38:20 +1000

Thanks very much to those who supplied information on extracting
polydorids from corraline algae.  As you will all have read, several
approaches were suggested and hopefully one will succeed. I have passed
on the information to the student and will therefore probably soon be
burdened with lots of polydorids to look at!  

Bye

Robin

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Australia  

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Subject:       In Memory of David W. Kirtley
Date:          Fri, 18 Jul 97 18:50:00 DST


Friday, 18 July 1997

Dear Colleagues,

I was at a DANIDA / PMBC BIOSHELF Polychaete Workshop in Phuket, Thailand
when I got the sad news that David W. Kirtley had died.  He was
affiliated with the Florida Oceanographic Society and the Harbor Branch
Oceanographic Museum in Fort Pierce, Florida, but mostly worked from his
home in Vero Beach, Florida.  To say that news of his death came as a
shock and leaves a deep sense of loss is a huge understatement.  Although
I knew that he had health problems, I had heard from David shortly before
I left and his plans for the summer included visits to several museums
and gave no indication that anything was wrong.  At that time he was
perhaps not aware of it himself.

Although I had met David at the 4th International Polychaete Conference
in Angers, France, in 1992, it was not until early 1995, when he sent me
a copy of his monograph on the Sabellariidae that I really got to know
him.  After making sure that this important publication was really
intended for me and not for the library, I wrote and thanked him. This
was the start of a most enjoyable and interesting correspondence during
which he enlightened me about all sorts of things, including those
geological, and quickly became a close and highly valued friend and
colleague.  In the approximately two years that we had been communicating
we managed to discuss - and sometimes solve - problems of all sorts,
ranging from obscure type localities (and sometimes type depositories!)
of sabellariids to the nomenclature of daffodils and jonquils.  He
appeared to have an insatiable appetite for knowledge, and as also noted
by Kevin Eckelbarger, an incredible memory and a well developed sense of
humor.

As Kevin pointed out so well, David was a multitalented and highly
unusual person with a curiosity, enthusiasm, and willingness to examine
new ideas - even if he really didn't agree with them - that commanded
admiration and respect.  Despite various problems of health and funding
applications that didn't get funded, David always came through as an
optimist, and not a complainer.  At a stage in life when many others
would be thinking of winding up a research career, David was busily
engaged in exploring new horizons and new ways to make his beloved
sabellariids easier for the rest of us to recognize and identify.  He was
working on an illustrated web page for the genera and also wrote that he
was making a three-dimensional model of a sabellariid to make the true
relationships of the different features easier to understand.  His
enthusiasm was truly infectious; even though sabellariids might be
outside one's present field of interest, I suspect that anyone who came
in contact with David probably began to think they should at least pay
more attention to these beautiful small animals.

When David visited the Zoological Museum in Copenhagen in early 1996, as
part of a study of sabellariids in European museums, part of his visit
overlapped that of Vasily Radashevsky.  To save time I fixed supper for
all three of us at the museum, and we had some wonderful discussions on
all imaginable topics over impromptu meals in the department library.

David was a very conscientious and careful researcher, and while some of
his descriptions may seem brief, it is not because he was superficial,
but rather, perhaps, because he understood the animals so well that he
did not always realize that others of us might have preferred a bit more
information.  At the time of his death, David was collaborating with
several colleagues around the world on new species and genera of
sabellariids.  In his last letter to me he wrote:

>[the collaborators] don't know it, but the main
>reason I've been dragging and dragging my feet in completing some joint
>papers is:  that I need to carefully check (and recheck) the database that
>includes the USNM collection before I can - with a clear conscience and
>to my own satisfaction - publish more new species names.  If I didn't
>know that the specimens are there and it's just a matter of having the
>expense money to go and dig through them then it would be a different
>matter; but since I DO know that I would have a better perception of the
>diagnostic characters and apparent ranges of variability of those features, 

>then I GOT to look!

I think this expresses David's attitude towards research pretty well - to
do the best job possible without shortcuts or compromises.  It's a real
pity that he never got to check the material and more of one that he
couldn't do so and stick around a bit longer to tell us about it.  I'm
sure that there are many of us who join his family in agreeing that his
departure came much, much too soon.  I feel privileged that I had the
opportunity to get to know David better, even if only for a short time. 
It has been a delightful and enriching  experience.  He is already sorely
missed and will not be forgotten.


Sincerely,

Mary E. Petersen

Zoological Museum, University of Copenhagen
Universitetsparken 15, DK-2100 Copenhagen O, Denmark
Tel +45-35 32 10 67 --- Fax +45-35 32 10 10
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Date:          Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:44:52 -1000
Subject:       Re: In Memory of David W. Kirtley

    David Kirtley could make an ordinary day a Great Day, by sending an 
email with sab news along with a dose of his special good humor. We worked 
via space waves on Sabs from Fiji and Malaysia and almost, but not quite,
resolved them both. I tried to get more Fiji specimens for him, but even
photos of the worms growing on rocks in Suva harbor with hammer for scale
did not motivate USP biologists to rush out and find them. But I am
fairly content that these IDs were not resolved. I would have missed some
great stories! 

    My last communications with him were about sabs from Christmas Island 
that I had referred to him as the specialist. He was ready to make a
reservation to Christmas on the condition he could do some fishing at the
same time as collect sabs, and eat the catch ( the fish, I think). I was
about to get back to him on airline charters when I received Kevin's
message.  I am most grateful for David Kirtley's advice on Hawaiian sabs
(sabellariids, not sabellids!), his contribution to that family in "Reef
and Shore Fauna of Hawaii" and his willing assistance with sab questions.
My sympathy to his family and friends. With Aloha and a big Maholo to
David Kirtley, from Julie Bailey-Brock             

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Date:          Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:33:00 +1100
Subject:       Chaetopterus alert

Hello folks,

What would you choose if you had to represent the polychaetes with one 
photo? Well, the editors of  Science  elected for ... you guessed it. 

And a good choice too (any contrary views are welcome to be aired), though 
it may be more linked to the 2nd article below than is apparent to me at 
the moment.

The news article is:

Pennisi,Elizabeth; Roush,Wade (1977): Developing a new view of
evolution. Science 277(4 July), 34-37.

It's about advances in evolutionary developmental biology & worth a read 
if you haven't seen it already.

The research relevant to polychaetes (limb development) is, I assume (not 
having yet seen beyond the  abstract), in:

Panganiban,G; Irvine,SM; Lowe,C; Roehl,H; Corley,LS; Sherbon,B; Grenier,
JK; Fallon,JF; Kimble,J; Walker,M; Wray,GA; Swalla,BJ; Martindale,MQ;
Carroll,SB (1997): The origin and evolution of animal appendages.
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of
America 94(10), 5162-5166.

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Subject:       Update on extracting polydorids
Date:          Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:03:40 +1000

Hi annelid people

Thanks again to those who provided useful information and suggestions on
extracting polydorids (and other polychaetes) from coralline algae.  I
have passed on all these suggestions to the student involved in the
project.  I had 2 jars to play with myself, each containing lots of live
worms in holes in coralline alga-encrusted rocks in salt water.  I left
these in a refrigerator @4 degrees C over the weekend, and when I
remembered to look at them today I found that all the worms seemed dead,
but not yet too smelly.  I was able to gently pull many specimens from
their holes with forceps.  The specimens are seemingly in good condition
and either entire or nearly so.  If I had been more serious about this
and examined the samples only 1 day later I am sure I could have got
material in even better condition.  The specimens are now fixing in
formalin and I will soon have to no excuse for not looking at them!  I
don't know if this method has been selective; possibly some taxa have
remained invisible in their holes.  But my impression from seeing lots of
polydorids, cirratulids and syllids, plus a few other families in smaller
numbers, is that nearly everything has come out. 

Just thought that some of you may be interested in this result.

Bye

Robin


Robin Wilson			
Museum of Victoria
71 Victoria Crescent
Abbotsford  3067
Australia  

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From: Pedro Fidalgo <pfidalgo@fc.ul.pt>
Subject:       Aquaculture of polychaetes

Dear annelidans,

I am a phD student at Lisbon University and I work on biology, ecology of
Hediste diversicolor. I would be most grateful if anyone has any recent
information, literature or references, especially on small scale culture
and aquaculture of polychaetes.

Thanks in advance.

Pedro Fidalgo e Costa
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Date:          Sat, 26 Jul 1997 12:54:37 +0000
Subject:       Polychaete TV news star?

Hello folks,

Star is a bit of an exaggeration of course but one must make the most of
the rare moments when a polychaete may have made it onto the little screen
across the planet. 

The occasion - one of those tantalisingly brief 'scientists discover new
life forms' items that the TV news people sometimes will give us between
the murders, the mayhem, and the politics. Probably recirculated from one
of the big news gatherers.

I think it was a report from deep-sea research off Japan. There it was for
about 3 seconds, sculling across the screen towards the camera,
transparent, segmented, and 'about the size of a paper clip' according to
the voice-over. It looked rather like a planktonic polychaete. 

Did my eyes deceive me? Did anyone else see it? 

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Subject:       Re: Polychaete TV news star?

I saw that news clip also but the images flashed across the screen so
fast that it was difficult to make a positive ID. I've seen many pelagic
polychaetes from submersibles but I couldn't tell what that one was. I
did see a colonial salp and a ctenophore during the same report and I
remember the news person quoting the researchers as saying that you could
find a new species about once each year! HA! You can find a new species
every dive if you have the facilities to collect specimens!!

Stan Rice
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:13:07 +0900
Subject: Re: Polychaete TV news star?

Dear Colleagues,

Unfortunately, I could not see the TV news, but the researcher on this news
called on me this afternoon and asked if I could identify the polychaete
worm.  The researcher's name is Dr. James Hunt charged at Japan Marine
Science and Technology Center.  He said to me also to send a Quick Time
Movie file (or a video tape) on the problem polychaete.  I am not a
specialist of pelagic polychaetes, but I will try to check it.

By the way, if those who saw this news have any idea on this polychaete in
the point of view taxonomy, please help us to identify it, even on generic
or more higher level (family, order, etc.).

We have a star who lives in deep mid-water in Sagami Bay, but we do not know
yet who it is.

The TV news appears to be well known world wide, but I could not see it.  I
am now waiting to have the video tape.  Until now I could received two
video stills.  After them, I think the problem species are close to both
Yndolacia and Flota.  This polychaete have 9 setigerous parapodia with two
bandles of long setae, but no appendage on the head region.  When I will
receive the video tape, I think to describe the morphology more clearly.



Tomo

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From: Bob Podolsky <podolsky@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject:       Information on free-spawned eggs

[My apologies if you receive this request from more than one group.]

I would be grateful for any information on the size of ova and of their
accessory structures (jelly coats, follicle cells, test cells, hulls,
etc.).  Although such paired measurements are routinely taken, I am
finding that they are often not published. 

I am collecting this information as part of a broad survey of the relative
contributions of ovum and accessory structure(s) to the size of the target
for sperm (i.e. average cross-sectional area of the entire egg with its
investments). Therefore, it would be helpful to know (1) average diameters
for ovum and accessory structure(s) before fertilization, (2) whether
large changes occur at fertilization, and (3) whether the egg is roughly
spherical or irregularly shaped. 

I am hoping to collect this information for as many free-spawning
invertebrate, fish and algal species as possible.  Internally-fertilizing
relatives would also be helpful.  Information for several species within a
clade would be especially useful. 

I would like to synthesize this information for a presentation in early
October at a conference on egg and embryo coats.  All information will be
gratefully acknowledged!

If you have collected such information but do not have immediate access to
it, please send a note anyway so that I can send a reminder. 

Thanks very much,
Bob Podolsky
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Robert D. Podolsky, Ph.D.			408-655-6238 (lab)
Hopkins Marine Station, Stanford University	408-375-0793 (fax)
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Pacific Grove, CA 93950-3094	      podolsky@leland.stanford.edu


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Subject:       Recent polychaete papers

Hello folks,

I thought I'd post a list of some of the papers that I have 
recently sighted. It is absolutely NOT a comprehensive list of all 
publications on polychaeta & allies over the last few months. In addition 
I have excluded all papers from IPC5 in Bulletin of Marine Science 60(2) 
[Already posted]. It is also not guaranteed error-free. Finally if anyone 
would like to post their own additional selections please go ahead.

Here it is:


AU Arvanitidis, Christos and Athanasios Koukouras.
PY 1997
TI The genus Paradiopatra (Polychaeta, Onuphidae) in the Mediterranean with
the description of Paradiopatra calliopae sp. nov.
SO Ophelia 46(1): 51-63.

AU Bock, Michael J. and Douglas C. Miller.
PY 1997
TI Particle-bound organic matter as a cue for suspension feeding in
tentaculate polychaetes. 
SO Journal of Experimental Marine Biology and
Ecology 215(1): 65-80.

AU Bonsdorff, Erik and Thomas Pearson.
PY 1997
TI The relative impact of physical disturbance and predation by Crangon on
population density in Capitella capitata: an experimental study. 
SO Ophelia 46(1): 1-10.

AU Briggs, R. P., R. J. A. Atkinson, M. Mcaliskey and A. Rogerson.
PY 1997
TI Histriobdella homari on Nephrops norvegicus from the Irish Sea and Clyde
Sea area. 
SO Journal of the Marine Biological Association of the United
Kingdom 77: 557-559.

AU Bryan, P. J., P. Y. Qian, J. L. Kreider and F. S. Chia.
PY 1997
TI Induction of larval settlement and metamorphosis by pharmacological and
conspecific associated compounds in the serpulid polychaete Hydroides
elegans. 
SO Marine Ecology Progress Series 146(1-3): 81-90.

AU Cha, J.-H., D. Martin and M. Bhaud.
PY 1997
TI Effects of temperature on oocyte growth in the Mediterranean terebellid
Eupolymnia nuebulosa [sic for nebulosa] (Annelida: Polychaeta). 
SO Marine Biology 128(3): 433-439.

AU Chandler, G. Thomas, Michelle R. Shipp and Teresa L. Donelan.
PY 1997
TI Bioaccumulation, growth and larval settlement effects of
sediment-associated polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons on the estuarine
polychaete, Streblospio benedicti (Webster). 
SO Journal of Experimental Marine Biology and Ecology 213: 95-110.

AU Ferrero, Enrico A.
PY 1997
TI Chemoreceptive responses of the polychaete Perinereis cultrifera in a Y
maze to alternative bivalve host effluents. 
SO Ophelia 46(1): 35-49.

AU Fromentin, J. M., F. Ibanez, J. C. Dauvin, J. M. Dewarumez and B.
Elkaim. 
PY 1997 
TI Long-term changes of four macrobenthic assemblages from
1978 to 1992. 
SO Journal of the Marine Biological Association of the United Kingdom 77:
287-310.

AU Gaill, Francoise, Bruce Shillito, Frederic Menard, Gerard Goffinet and
James J. Childress. 
PY 1997 
TI Rate and process of tube production by the deep-sea hydrothermal vent
tubeworm Riftia pachyptila. 
SO Marine Ecology Progress Series 148: 135-143.

AU Holmer, M., V. E. Forbes and T. L. Forbes.
PY 1997
TI Impact of the polychaete Capitella sp. I on microbial activity in an
organic-rich marine sediment contaminated with the polycyclic aromatic
hydrocarban fluoranthene.
SO Marine Biology 128(4): 679-688.

AU Levin, L. A. and S. Edesa.
PY 1997
TI The ecology of cirratulid mudballs on the Oman margin, northwest Arabian
Sea. 
SO Marine Biology 128(4): 671-678.

AU Lucas, Francoise and Georges Bertru.
PY 1997
TI Bacteriolysis in the gut of Nereis diversicolor (O. F. Muller) and
effect of the diet. 
SO Journal of Experimental Marine Biology and Ecology
215(2): 235-245.

AU Naylor, J. Reyn and Paul E. McShane.
PY 1997
TI Predation by polychaete worms on larval and post-settlement abalone
Haliotis iris (Mollusca: Gastropoda). 
SO Journal of Experimental Marine Biology and Ecology 214(1-2): 283-290.

AU Olive, Peter J. W., Joanne S. Porter, Nicholas J. Sandeman, Nigel H.
Wright and Mathew G. Bentley. 
PY 1997 
TI Variable spawning success of Nephtys hombergi (Annelida: Polychaeta) in
response to environmental variation a life history homeostasis. 
SO Journal of Experimental Marine Biology and Ecology 215(2): 247-268.

AU Panganiban, G., S. M. Irvine, C. Lowe, H. Roehl, L. S. Corley, B.
Sherbon, J. K. Grenier, J. F. Fallon, J. Kimble, M. Walker, G. A. Wray, B.
J. Swalla, M. Q. Martindale and S. B. Carroll. 
PY 1997 
TI The origin and evolution of animal appendages. 
SO Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of
America 94(10): 5162-5166.

AU Parapar, J. and G. San Martin.
PY 1997
TI ''Sedentary'' polychaetes of the Livingston Island shelf (South
Shetlands, Antarctica), with the description of a new species.
SO Polar Biology 17(6): 502-514

AU Pettibone, Marian H.
PY 1997
TI Revision of the sigalionid species (Polychaeta) referred to Psammolyce
Kinberg, 1856, Pelogenia Schmarda, 1861, and belonging to the subfamily
Pelogeniinae Chamberlin, 1919. 
SO Smithsonian Contributions to Zoology 581: 1-89.

AU Purschke, Gunter.
PY 1997
TI Ultrastructure of nuchal organs in polychaetes (Annelida) - new results
and review. 
SO Acta Zoologica 78(2): 123-143.

AU Rouse, G. W. and M. C. Gambi.
PY 1997
TI Cladistic relationships within Amphiglena Claparede (Polychaeta:
Sabellidae) with a new species and a redescription of A. mediterranea
(Leydig). 
SO Journal of Natural History 31: 999-1018.

AU Rouse, G. W. and A. B. Tzetlin.
PY 1997
TI Ultrastructure of the body wall and gametogenesis in Cossura cf.
longocirrata (Cossuridae Polychaeta). 
SO Invertebrate Reproduction and Development 32(1): 41-54.

AU Schiedek, D.
PY 1997
TI Marenzelleria viridis (Verrill, 1873) (Polychaeta), a new benthic
species within European coastal waters - Some metabolic features. 
SO Journal of Experimental Marine Biology and Ecology 211(1): 85-101.

AU Sigvaldadottir, Elin, Andrew S. Y. Mackie and Fredrik Pleijel.
PY 1997
TI Generic interrelationships within the Spionidae (Annelida: Polychaeta).
SO Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society 119(4): 473-500.


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