From daemon Wed Apr 1 01:32:38 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id BAA05584 Message-Id: <199804010932.BAA05584@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:34:50 +0100 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Harry A. ten Hove" Subject: Re: Calcium carbonate and evolution >Annelida folk, > >A serious question - but be careful out there in Net land - it's April >one! What do you know? >I am trying to think of the polychaetes which in some way can secrete >calcium carbonate. So far I have the obvious in the tubes (& opercula) of >Serpulidae, Without actually searching my files, I would say that the most recent on the topic is a series of papers by Neff, J.M., 1968b.- Calcium carbonate formation by serpulid polychaete worms: physiology and ultrastructure. Diss. Abstr. 29B, 4: 1489. Neff, J.M., 1969a.- Mineral regeneration by serpulid worms. Biol. Bull. 136, 1: 76-90, 7 figs. Neff, J.M., 1969b.- Ultrastructure of the ventral shield epithelium of the serpulid Pomatoceros caeruleus Schmarda. Amer. Zool. 9, 4: 1145-1146. Neff, J.M., 1971a.- Ultrastructural studies of the secretion of calcium carbonate by the serpulid polychaete worm Pomatoceros caeruleus. Z. Zellforsch. mikrosk. Anat. 120: 160-186, 22 figs. Neff, J.M., 1971b.- Ultrastructure of calcium phosphate-containing cells in the serpulid Pomatoceros caeruleus. Calc. Tiss. Res. 7: 191-200, 5 figs, 1 tab. In view of the locality where he worked, and presumably sampled his material, North Carolina, the correct name most probably should be Pomatoceros americanus though. >and also those of the cirratulid Dodecaceria fewkesi, the >calcified jaws of some Eunicida, the calcified setae of Amphinomidae. What >other candidates and structures are there? More information on Dodecaceria in: Hove, H.A. ten, & P. van den Hurk, 1993.- A review of Recent and fossil serpulid "reefs"; actuopaleontology and the 'Upper Malm' serpulid limestones in NW Germany. Geol. Mijnbouw 72: 23-67, 12 figs, 5 tabs. The correct reference for Calcisabella: Perkins, T.H., 1991.- Calcisabella piloseta, a new genus and species of Sabellinae (Polychaeta: Sabellidae). Proc. 3rd Int. Polychaete Conf., Bull. Mar. Sci. 48, 2: 261-267, 3 figs. By the way, I found more material of Calcisabella in the Seychelles, according to Tom Perkins undistinguishable (except for pigmentation) from the Lizard Island specimens. wormly all, Harry A. ten Hove Institute for Systematics and Population Biology Zoological Museum, University of Amsterdam POB 94766, 1090 GT AMSTERDAM TEL. 3120 5256906 FAX. 3120 5255402 -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 1 13:59:51 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id NAA12820 Message-Id: <199804012159.NAA12820@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:21:54 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Bruno Pernet Subject: Re: Calcium carbonate and evolution Geoff -- With regards to Dodecaceria, you may want to contact Rudolf Fischer. He's part of a group of people who have been working out how Dodecaceria deposit their calcium carbonate tubes. I think that they will have interesting ideas about biochemical mechanisms, and how these compare to those in other carbonate-depositing metazoans. They've been working on fossil and living material -- the living material was primarily D. fistulicola (which is, I think, the correct name for the worm commonly known as "D. fewkesi") from the northeast Pacific. His email address is: r.fischer@mbox.geowi.uni-hannover.de Cheers, Bruno ______________________________________________________________________ Bruno Pernet Department of Zoology University of Washington phone: 206-543-1484 Box 351800 fax: 206-543-1273 Seattle, WA 98195-1800 email: pernet@fhl.washington.edu ______________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Geoff Read wrote: > Annelida folk, > > A serious question - but be careful out there in Net land - it's April > one! > > I am trying to think of the polychaetes which in some way can secrete > calcium carbonate. So far I have the obvious in the tubes (& opercula) of > Serpulidae, and also those of the cirratulid Dodecaceria fewkesi ... -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- This species bores a furrow into the shell near the aperture and produces a calcareous tube along the columella toward the appex of the shell" and (p. 609) "the tube was covered by a thin calcareous layer of unknown origin." ------------------------ Dauer, D. M. 1991. Functional morphology and feeding behavior of Polydora commensalis (Polychaeta: Spionidae). -- Ophelia Suppl. 5: 607-614. Gibson, P. H. & R. B. Clark. 1976. Reproduction in Dodecaceria caulleryi (Polychaeta: Cirratulidae). -- J. mar. biol. Ass. U.K. 56: 649-674. Hatfield, P. A. 1965. Polydora commensalis Andrews -- larval development and observations on adults. -- Biol. Bull. 128: 356-368. McIntosh, W. C. 1911. Notes from the Gatty Marine Laboratory, St. Andrews. -- No. XXXII. 4. On the Cirratulidae dredged by H.M.S. 'Porcupine' in 1869 and 1870. -- Ann. Mag. nat. Hist. Ser. 8, 7: 162-168, pls V-VII. ------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings from a grey and rainy Copenhagen, Mary ------- Mary E. Petersen Zoological Museum, University of Copenhagen mepetersen@zmuc.ku.dk -------------------------------------- -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 1 13:59:51 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id NAA12821 Message-Id: <199804012159.NAA12821@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:53:37 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: jablake@ix.netcom.com (JAMES A. BLAKE) Subject: Re: Calcium carbonate and evolution Hi folks, With regard to calcium secretors of a secondary nature at least, you could probably add a few of the polydorids (Spionidae) that are commensals with hermit crabs. Dipolydora commensalis (Andrews) and Polydora bioccipitalis Blake and Woodwick excavate a channel along the columella of gastropod shells occupied by hermit crabs. The excavated material is then redeposited as a thin calcareous ceiling over the burrow. Somehow, the worm reworks the Calcium carbonate that is removed from the gastropod shell and then redeposits the stuff. I also think that another one of my beasties, D. antonbrunnae (Blake) from Peru does the same thing. Cheers, Jim Blake (jablake@ix.netcom.com) -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 1 13:59:51 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id NAA12823 Message-Id: <199804012159.NAA12823@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:53:39 -0500 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: judy A Fournier <110275.1004@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Calcium carbonate and evolution Dear Annelidans, If my memory serves me correctly, there was a report in Science, sometime in the mid-'80's, about the presence of a quasi-skeletal calcium structure in Nephtys. I remember reading it and showing it to my division head with the question: "Does this mean I have to move upstairs (with the Vertebrate Section)?" She said, "No, just half way will do." If I get back to the Museum in the near future, I will check my old files for this paper and let you know further. Judy Fournier 110275.1004@Compuserve.com Museum Associate (retired) Canadian Museum of Nature -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu Apr 2 01:13:53 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id BAA01786 Message-Id: <199804020913.BAA01786@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:54:32 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "M.R.Lee" Subject: Saccocirrus Hola amigos, I've been working in Chile studying the effects of copper mine tailings dumping on intertidal meiofauna. Saccocirrus, species yet to be confirmed, is a common member of the meiofaunal communities on these coarse exposed beaches and is found on both impacted and nonimpacted beaches. It may be my imagination but the specimens from the impacted beach appear to me to be more robust and significantly greener. I'm doing a PhD through the University of Wales, Bangor and I will be returning to Chile to continue my research in August. I was wondering if anyone else has experience of interstitial polychaetes and metals, particularly copper and zinc? Regards Matthew R Lee -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu Apr 2 14:16:44 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA17859 Message-Id: <199804022216.OAA17859@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:31:36 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: norenbur@onyx.si.edu (Jon L. Norenburg) Subject: Re: Saccocirrus >Hola amigos, > > I've been working in Chile studying the effects of copper mine tailings >dumping on intertidal meiofauna. Saccocirrus, species yet to be confirmed, >is a common member of the meiofaunal communities on these coarse exposed >beaches and is found on both impacted and nonimpacted beaches. It may be >my imagination but the specimens from the impacted beach appear to me to >be more robust and significantly greener. I'm doing a PhD through the >University of Wales, Bangor and I will be returning to Chile to continue >my research in August. I was wondering if anyone else has experience of >interstitial polychaetes and metals, particularly copper and zinc? > >Regards >Matthew R Lee > Hi Matthew, Over the more than 20 years that I have been pawing through mesopsammic meiofauna it is my subjective assessment that at least some Saccocirrus are very tolerant of environments highly enriched in organics (some might say polluted), but I don't know if any of the places I have worked would have had heavy metal pollution. I haven't noticed any obvious differences among specimens of different neighboring sites. You might want to contact Eric McEvoy at Liverpool John Moores University about testing for metals in the specimens. He has been looking at heavy metal accumulation in nemerteans. Cheers, --Jon Dr. Jon L. Norenburg, Research Zoologist/Curator Department of Invertebrate Zoology National Museum of Natural History-MRC163 Washington, DC 20560 voice 202-633-9278, fax 202-357-3043 e-mail: norenbur@onyx.si.edu Society for Integrative & Comparative Biology American Microscopical Society -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- u.edu ********************************************** ********************************************** -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 3 05:03:59 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id FAA23547 Message-Id: <199804031303.FAA23547@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:58:11 +0100 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: jwil4024@uriacc.uri.edu (Jason Williams) Subject: Re: Calcium carbonate and evolution Hi all, In a feeding study of Dipolydora commensalis (see reference below), I removed the worms from their natural shell burrows and placed them in glass capillary tubes. These worms (some isolated for over 100 days) were found to deposit only a fine mucus layer in the glass tubes. These observations add further evidence that D. commensalis forms the thin calcareous layer by combining calcium carbonate crystals and mucus as indicated by Jim Blake and Dan Dauer. Williams, J. D., and J. J. McDermott. 1997. Feeding behavior of Dipolydora commensalis (Polychaeta: Spionidae): particle capture, transport, and selection. Inv. Biol. 116: 115-123. Jason Jason Williams Department of Biological Sciences 100 Flagg Road University of Rhode Island Kingston, RI 02881 (401) 874-2649 Office (401) 874-4256 FAX e-mail jwil4024@uriacc.uri.edu -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 3 14:41:42 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA11328 Message-Id: <199804032241.OAA11328@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:24:12 -0600 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: salazar@nicte-ha.ecosur-qroo.mx (Sergio Salazar Vallejo) Subject: Calcium in Nephtys Dear colleagues, There are two important papers on intracellular calcium phosphate granules in Nephtys, that might be interesting to look at, since they indicate a (another) unique feature of these worms. The papers are: Bryan GW & PE Gibbs 1986 Occurrence, composition and function of intracellular calcium phosphate granules in the musculature of nephtyid polychaetes (Annelida). J. Mar. Biol. Ass. U.K. 66:343-365 (Abstract: 40 species from 26 polychaeta familes were analysed; most had less than 1% DW of Ca and P; Nephtys has 3-6% dw of Ca and 2-4.5% dw of P). Gibbs PE & GW Bryan 1984 Calcium phosphate granules in muscle cells of Nephtys (Annelida, Polychaeta) -- A novel skeleton? Nature 310:494-495 (p. 495: "We suggest that a novel flexible skeleton has evolved in _Nephtys_ as an integral part of its highly successful burrowing mechanism"). Best wishes, Sergio * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sergio I. Salazar-Vallejo * * Depto. Ecologia Acuatica * * ECOSUR, Apdo. Postal 424 * * Chetumal QR 77000 MEXICO * * * * Tel. (983) 21666, 20115 * * Fax (983) 20447 * * http://www.ecosur.mx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Sun Apr 5 00:52:09 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id AAA15308 Message-Id: <199804050852.AAA15308@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 09:58:31 -0500 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: judy A Fournier <110275.1004@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Calcium in Nephtys Dear Folks, That is the one I was thinking of! Thanks Sergio, Judy Fournier -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Mon Apr 6 14:54:34 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA24929 Message-Id: <199804062154.OAA24929@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:15:04 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Joao Gil Subject: MNHN Contact Dear colleagues: I need to ask for a loan of material deposited in the Museum National d'Histoire Naturelle de Paris (MNHN). Can anyone tell me who to contact, now that Dr. Dauvin moved from there to the Station Marine de Wimereux? I also would like to know if the polychaete collection of the Observatoire Oceanologique de Banyuls is still at Banyuls-sur-mer or if it was deposited in another place (at the MNHN, for instance). Thank you for your attention. Best wishes, Joao Gil ******************************************* Joao Gil Centre d'Estudis Avancats de Blanes Cami de Santa Barbara, s/n E-17300 BLANES (GIRONA), SPAIN Telef.: 34-72-33.61.01 Fax: 34-72-33.78.06 E-mail: gil@ceab.csic.es -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Mon Apr 6 20:50:11 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id UAA02925 Message-Id: <199804070350.UAA02925@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:45:57 +1000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Prof Barrie Jamieson Subject: Re: MNHN Contact Dear Joao Gil, Prof. Jean-Lou Justine, curates annelids in the Paris Museum. His email is justine@mnhn.fr He would probably be able to help you. Good luck, Barrie Jamieson -- The University of Queensland, Zoology Department Barrie Jamieson Professor of Zoology E-Mail : BJamieson@zoology.uq.edu.au -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue Apr 7 02:08:28 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id CAA07433 Message-Id: <199804070908.CAA07433@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Helmut Zibrowius" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 7 Apr 98 07:43:20 MST Subject: Re: MNHN Contact On Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:15:04 +0200, Joao Gil wrote: >I need to ask for a loan of material deposited in the Museum National >d'Histoire Naturelle de Paris (MNHN). >Can anyone tell me who to contact, now that Dr. Dauvin moved from there to >the Station Marine de Wimereux? There is indeed a vacancy at MNHN. Any enquiry should be addressed to the Director of the laboratory (Biologie des Invertebres Marins et Malacologie) in charge of the polychaete collection: Prof. D. Doumenc, whose e-mail should be: Perhaps he can arrange to have searched for the specimens you are looking for. Good luck! >I also would like to know if the polychaete collection of the Observatoire >Oceanologique de Banyuls is still at Banyuls-sur-mer or if it was deposited >in another place (at the MNHN, for instance). A few years ago I tried (unsuccessfully) to see specimens from this collection which in the 60's was well curated. But in the meantime the remaining collections have been moved out of way, somewhere under the roof. Maybe there is somebody officially in charge of the collections. They have NOT been moved to Paris (see above). You may enquire at the following addresse: Otherwise, a polychaete person who last year managed to see the remaining collections there, is: Good luck! ----------------------------------- Helmut ZIBROWIUS (Centre d'Oceanologie de Marseille) Station Marine d'Endoume Rue Batterie des Lions 13007 Marseille / France E-MAIL: hzibrowi@com.univ-mrs.fr TEL: within France 0491041624 from abroad +33 491041624 FAX: within France 0491041635 from abroad +33 491041635 --------------------------------------------------------- -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue Apr 7 17:03:50 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id RAA07678 Message-Id: <199804080003.RAA07678@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:43:30 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Pat J. Iampietro" Organization: Moss Landing Marine Laboratories Subject: Functional Morphology in Annelids Hi Folks- I posted a similar message about a year ago, calling for story ideas for the series, "Shape of Life". We're progressing quite well, and have secured a partnership with NGTV to produce this series. We've cut the number of episodes a bit, but rest assured that the annelids still get a full hour! I'd love to hear from any and all of you that have interesting story ideas, new developments, etc. You may reply directly to me if you like, rather than to the list (it's up to you). Thanx, -Pat The previous posting is given below for those who never received it: I work as a research consultant with a group called Sea Studios. Sea Studios, an award-winning video & multi-media production firm in Monterey, CA, is in pre-production for "Shape of Life", a new science/nature documentary series in partnership with National Geographic Television. The series will be an 8-part (9 hrs total) exploration of animal diversity focusing on functional morphology and evolution, aimed at the broadcast market. Sea Studios has pioneered the use of many innovative techniques in documentary production, and Shape of Life will use lots of high quality video footage and animation to teach some real biology in an engaging way. Each major animal phylum will be treated in at least one full episode, so I'm working on developing an hour's worth of echinoderm stories. I would appreciate any input regarding your recent or ongoing research, interesting critters w/ neat & important adaptations, story ideas, individual researchers/contacts, etc.; specifically w/in the annelids, but in other animal groups as well. We are still in the writing stages, and now is the time to wave your arms if you or someone you know has an interesting story to tell. Let me close by saying that if you have worked w/ photo or video/film crews in the past and found it an annoying or unpleasant experience, the folks @ Sea Studios are easy & fun to work with. They all have science degrees & backgrounds, & understand what research is like. Please drop by their website if you'd like to know more about Sea Studios: http://www.seastudios.com/ Thanx for your time & I look forward to hearing from you! Cheers, -Pat -- Pat J. Iampietro Research Associate Earth Systems Science & Policy California State University, Monterey Bay 100 Campus Center Seaside, CA 93955 (408) 582-4214 VOICE (408) 582-3073 FAX iampietro@mlml.calstate.edu -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 8 14:53:13 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA14605 Message-Id: <199804082153.OAA14605@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Paulo da Cunha Lana" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: 6th Polychaete conference - first important reminder Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:27:34 -0300 Dear colleagues, I have an important reminder to all of you who will attend the Brazilian conference. If you are not a Brazilian citizen and plan to collect worms or other animals and eventually take them back to your native country, it will be necessary to get an special collecting permit from the Brazilian Ministry for the Environment. The Brazilian government has taken a zero tolerance for illegal traffic of biological specimens and or tissues. Brazilian environmental legislation is rather strict and - I would say - justifiably xenophobic, as in most tropical and subtropical countries of the world. I am currently discussing this subject with our Ministry. I am trying to get a collective collecting permit to attendants of the conference, but this seems to be rather difficult. To get individual permits, I need some input from you. If you plan (and only if you plan) to collect in Brazil, please e-mail a message to lana@aica.cem.ufpr.br, in English, Portuguese or Spanish, with ALL the following information: - your name, work address and professional status; - a short C.V.(maximum one page); - the kind of material you intend to collect, as detailed as possible; - a small statement (no more than 10 lines) of the research activities associated with the collecting; - a list of the places (even tentative) where you plan to collect; - names of Brazilian institutions and/or scientists who will support your field activities and act as local sponsors. If you do not have such contacts, please feel free to use my name and that of my institution. Please feel free to contact other people from the Organizing Committee or any other Brazilian polychaetologists or marine biologists re this matter. To speed and facilitate the bureaucracy concerning this matter, I have stated to the pertinent Division of our Ministry for the Environment that holotypes and/or paratypes of new species (or any other relevant material) would be also deposited in Brazilian institutions. There are at least two polychaete collections in Brazil with regular curatorial care, that of the University of Campinas (c/o Cecilia Amaral) and that of the Centro de Estudos do Mar (c/o Paulo Lana). I also believe that the National Museum in Rio de Janeiro will be interested in receiving relevant biological material. I need ALL this information before April 30. I will not be able to carry out late-hour arrangements concerning this matter. If you know other polychaetologists, who are currently e-mail incommunicadoes and plan to collect in Brazil, please contact them and inform them about this. Thanks in advance for your input. PLEASE AVOID REPLYING DIRECTLY TO ANNELIDA (do not use the "reply to" function in your e-mail application). Send your messages re this topic directly to me unless they are of general interest to other polychaetologists. Looking forward to not seeing you in Brazilian jails for ecological crimes (at least three years in prison, no bail allowed...) ;-) I send all my best wishes, Paulo Lana lana@aica.cem.ufpr.br -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu Apr 9 03:22:52 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id DAA05165 Message-Id: <199804091022.DAA05165@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Helmut Zibrowius" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 08:05:50 MST Subject: Re: 6th Polychaete conference - first important reminder On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:27:34 -0300, Paulo da Cunha Lana wrote: >I have an important reminder to all of you who will attend the Brazilian >conference. If you are not a Brazilian citizen and plan to collect worms >or other animals and eventually take them back to your native country, it >will be necessary to get an special collecting permit from the Brazilian >Ministry for the Environment. The Brazilian government has taken a zero >tolerance for illegal traffic of biological specimens .... Surely, collecting some small worms on the shore may reveal by far more harmful to the country concerned, and to mankind as a whole, than destroying the Amazonian rain forest. - Unfortunately this worldwide bureaucratic business of lobbying braindeficient armchairfarters (for German and Polish readers: Sesselfurzer, pierdzistolki) in the ministries, worldwide, causes more and more troubles to elementary natural history activities, as simple as counting segments and chetae in polychaetes. Dear Organizer of the meeting (which unfortunately I cannot attend), and other polychaete-workers: I would have stories to tell about the grotesque absurdities to the highest degree that are caused by, for example, indiscriminate CITES regulations followed to the letter by armchairfarters in various countries. Including in a most famous natural history museum (in a morally advanced country) that always had been considered as a temple of science. For example, ALL Scleractinian corals (the whole order), >1000 species, from Antarctica to the northern polar circle, from the tidal zone to 6000m depth, are CITES protected and treated like the panda and the rhinoceros. The essential point: the international braindeficient armchairfarters are satisfied. Polychaete-workers, be aware that those absurdity promoters may next extend CITES regulations to ALL Polychaeta. You will then spend more time in corresponding with ministries than looking at your worms. And let Harry ten Hove (another subscriber of this list) tell you the adventures of a couple of tiny serpulids (paratypes) now travelling from continent to continent like apatride refugees because decades ago they had not cared to respect future national laws .... >Looking forward to not seeing you in Brazilian jails for ecological >crimes (at least three years in prison, no bail allowed...). Since the promoters of rain forest destruction do not go to jail, the polychaete workers attending the meeting can easily measure how deeply criminal illegal collecting of a worm would be. zoophilously, ----------------------------------- Helmut ZIBROWIUS (Centre d'Oceanologie de Marseille) Station Marine d'Endoume Rue Batterie des Lions 13007 Marseille / France E-MAIL: hzibrowi@com.univ-mrs.fr TEL: within France 0491041624 from abroad +33 491041624 FAX: within France 0491041635 from abroad +33 491041635 --------------------------------------------------------- -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu Apr 9 19:33:27 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id TAA06072 Message-Id: <199804100233.TAA06072@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 06:39:20 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "James T. Carlton" Subject: Biological Invasions (a new journal): Call For Papers Apologies for cross-postings, but a great many folks are on only one of these lists. Papers are now being accepted for the new journal BIOLOGICAL INVASIONS, to be published by Kluwer Academic Publishers (Netherlands). The Editorial Board includes James Carlton (Editor), Ted Case, Mick Clout, Bruce Coblentz, James Drake, Henri Dumont, Bella Galil, Francesca Gherardi, Peter Kareiva, Mark Lonsdale, Richard Mack, Harold Mooney, Peter Moyle, Petr Pysek, Maria Ribera, David Richardson, Daniel Simberloff, Ronald Thresher, Jeff Waage and Mark Williamson. BIOLOGICAL INVASIONS seeks to publish research papers from many disciplines, and we hope to achieve a broad representation from work done in freshwater, marine, and terrestrial systems. Research papers are welcome on the patterns and processes of biological invasions (including both human-mediated introductions and natural range expansions), the ecological consequences of invasions in terms of both interspecific interactions as well as alterations to community and ecosystem structure (such as energy flow modifications, biodiversity, and invasion-mediated extinction), the factors that influence inoculation, establishment, and persistence of invasions and the mechanisms that control the abundance and distribution of invasions. Papers are further encouraged on biogeography, invasion genetics, dispersal vectors, the evolutionary consequences of invasions, and analytical syntheses and overviews of invasive biotas. Also of interest are papers on the theoretical bases of biocontrol, and the release of genetically modified organisms, as these disciplines illuminate the science of biological invasions. Scholarly papers on management and policy issues as they relate to conservation programs and the global prevention or control of invasions are invited as well. Please note that, relative to biocontrol, a new journal (BIOCONTROL) is also being established by Kluwer, under the editorship of Jeff Waage. The Editor and the members of the Editorial Board will also consider proposals for devoting special issues, or a special section of an issue, to papers resulting from conferences or workshops on invasions. We also intend to have a section on "Research Notes", facilitating rapid publication of short papers on topics such as new techniques, the recording of remarkable new invasions, and so forth. The cover of the journal, which will begin as a quarterly, will have with each issue a new photograph (black-and-white, at the moment, unless funds are available for color production from the authors or their institutions) and thus provide an opportunity for workers to submit cover photos for each issues. There are no page charges, and the first 75 reprints are free. For Instructions to Authors, further technical information about the journal, and a free sample copy (available by December 1998 -- January 1999) please contact: Dr. Rene Mijs Kluwer Academic Publishers Dordrecht, The Netherlands email: rene.mijs@wkap.nl Please submit manuscripts to: Journal Editorial Office: Biological Invasions Kluwer Academic Publishers P. O. Box 990 3300 AZ Dordrecht The Netherlands For information about the scope of the journal and the suitability and types of papers being sought please contact me (address below). We are looking forward to a successful and we think very timely journal! Thank you, and my apologies again for multiple postings. James T. Carlton Editor-in-Chief, Biological Invasions Williams College -- Mystic Seaport P. O. Box 6000, 75 Greenmanville Avenue Mystic, Connecticut 06355 U.S.A. email: jcarlton@williams.edu telephone: 860 572 5359 -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 10 14:22:52 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA05044 Message-Id: <199804102122.OAA05044@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:35:35 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Linda Ward Subject: Re: 6th Polychaete conference - first important reminder I would like to take this opportunity to thank Paulo for helping with the permit issue. It is a real problem. Paulo, will people also need export permits? To add to something Kristian said about documentation- IF YOU PLAN ON DEPOSITING ANY MATERIAL COLLECTED DURING THIS TRIP AT THE SMITHSONIAN WE WILL NEED A COPY OF YOUR COLLECTING PERMIT (and export permit if that is needed also) SENT ALONG WITH THE SPECIMENS. Really all the US museums need this documentation to file with the 3177 form Fish & Wildlife requires. We need this type of documentation whenever you collect in a country that has restrictions. As Vivianne pointed out, this issue affects Mexico as well. We are finding that most if not all Central and South American countries have tightened their requirements. We were having trouble getting our own loans back from Mexico last year because of the permit issue but thanks to Vivianne's timely intervention with the authorities in Mexico City the process has been simplified tremendously. It is possible to make it a routine and fairly painless process. Now if only France could get one of their institutions designated as a CITES Management Authority some of Dr. Zibrowius' problems with the corals might go away. Something that might prove very helpful is if we could get information from members of each country represented at the meeting about the permits their country requires (collecting and export, import). We could compile the info. and pass it along after the conference. See you in Brazil! Linda -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 15 03:05:32 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id DAA03957 Message-Id: <199804151005.DAA03957@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:56:22 -0600 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: salazar@nicte-ha.ecosur-qroo.mx (Sergio Salazar Vallejo) Subject: permits and the like Dear Paulo, Helmut, Kristian, Vivianne and colleagues, I share most of Helmut's discomfort with the prevailing situation and agree with Vivianne on the importance to preserve our natural heritage. Certainly Paulo is to be thanked by his helpful efforts and we must understand the high responsibility of Kristian. I will add several issues to the discussion. 1) Collecting (exporting, importing) permits must be understood according to each country's own regulations. In order to succeed, to be able to deposit specimens or to examine some type material, we have to follow these essential rules. At the same time, we have a more serious compromise to educate our bureaucrats at any level, concerning the importance to make distinctions among the many groups of organisms. Strict regulations are fine for endangered species and other organisms require a different treatment; in fact, black market prices increase whenever any prohibition appears. None of us has the time, as an individual, to make these things change but as an organized scientific society, we could prepare a statement regarding the importance of our job and the need to have better (faster) legal treatment. In this, like in other related topics, we have to resist and to insist. 2) The above situation is particularly severe wherever there are binational agreements. After the long time involved and the so much paper-work needed in trying to get/deposit some specimens in museums in the US, we have skipped this by depositing without any paper-work type specimens in the museums of London, Paris and Copenhagen. Two of them are particularly fine, at least that is my impression, and specimens can be safely deposited there. 3) Border patrol and natural richness might have strong links in a CITES agreement. But following Helmut, there are international (and national) promoters of destruction (or transformation) of natural forests or beaches. They are just moving through the borders, not just our highly esteemed natural richness, but a more important thing: money. The rate of landscape transformation in Caribbean beaches and in neotropical rain forests is so impressive that it seems nobody is capable to stop it. Tourism and more land to get food or to raise cattle are the main reasons to explain these changes and we, educated people, are doing almost nothing to revert this situation. If money is not coming from any international bank, it might proceed from drug dealers in order to be washed, and as such, there is no need even to make business properly but to have a nice-looking laundry. This is even worse. If our (Mexico-USA) border patrols would be as efficient as to hold and return desperate Mexicans or Centralamericans, as to stop drug traffic, we could trust they can also help our efforts to preserve natural resources. Regretfully, it's not the case. Our role as educators or promoters of change has to be enlarged. Raise your hand and voice and speak loudly wherever you can and to our representatives to change these situations! 4) To go or not to go to Brazil, that is the question? I'll miss the meeting because of a shortage of money but will enjoy the proceedings when they are available. Many of us, unable to afford the trip, will do the same indeed. May I suggest to the editors to include a photograph of the participants? If it comes in several portions, we can have a better idea on our colleagues, already known by their writings, but perhaps never seen before. Best wishes, Sergio * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sergio I. Salazar-Vallejo * * Depto. Ecologia Acuatica * * ECOSUR, Apdo. Postal 424 * * Chetumal QR 77000 MEXICO * * * * Tel. (983) 21666, 20115 * * Fax (983) 20447 * * http://www.ecosur.mx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 15 03:48:40 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id DAA09940 Message-Id: <199804151048.DAA09940@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:13:55 +0900 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: james@jamstec.go.jp (James c.hunt) Subject: Poeobius help Hello, Could somebody out there be so kind as to give me the correct Order/Family/Genus information (i.e. naming reference/year) for Poeobius? Thank you. Yours, James Hunt ********************************************************* James C. Hunt Japan Marine Science & Technology Center 2-15 Natsushima-Cho Yokosuka, 237 Japan phone: 81-46-867-3479 "Quick, Lisa! What's another word for fax: 81-46-866-5541 synonym." email: james@jamstec.go.jp --- H. Simpson ********************************************************* -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 15 12:03:14 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id MAA05398 Message-Id: <199804151903.MAA05398@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:24:20 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Linda Ward Subject: permits It sure is nice to know that three of the world's major museums are willing to accept illegally collected and/or exported material. Sergio the problem with depositing material at the Smithsonian has nothing to do with bilateral aggreements! We are bound by a US law called the "Lacey Act" which essentially says that US organizations and citizens will uphold the import/export laws of "ALL" nations. In other words we will not facilitate people in their efforts to avoid THEIR COUNTRIES LAWS!!! It is because of Mexico's relatively new requirements for permits that requires us to have these papers with specimens arriving on our door step. Some of us at the museum were under the impression that the Smithsonian had a blanket permit that allowed us to accept the non-cites material for deposit/loan etc. without breaking the Lacey Act but we have since been informed that this was not the case and US Fish & Wildlife has been monitoring material coming to us. We do our best to comply with the regulations and we seem to find out about new regulations only when we send in our routine paperwork to USFW and they come back and ask us "where is the export permit?" Australia has had some really tough loans for many years now and they seem to coe quite nicely. If you have ever received a loan from the Australian Museum the export permit is in fact attached to the outside of the package and just looks like a customs sticker. This would be missing from the package if it is just shipped from the local post office and requires the sender to go on bended knee to the museum to see if they can get the permit - It's Australian Law not US law that requires this export permit. Anyone who has donated material to our department in the last 4-5 years has been asked to sign a "Deed of Gift" which states that they collected the material legally and had all the necessary permits. We take your word for it. For countries that we know require export permits and/or deposition of holotypes in their museums we won't process material without the permits and we won't process holotypes at all. If this extra paperwork has resulted in people not depositing their material here - fine - none of us are willing to lose our jobs over a few "paperless" worms! I agree that all this seems a bit silly when you are talking non-endangered worms but that's the way it is. Linda (By the way these are my interpretations of the law and my opinions and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.) Linda Ward -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 15 12:06:13 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id MAA05687 Message-Id: <199804151906.MAA05687@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Paulo da Cunha Lana" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Re: permits and the like Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:29:40 -0300 -----Original Message----- From: Sergio Salazar Vallejo Date: Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 1998 19:26 Subject: permits and the like > May I suggest to the editors to include a photograph of the > participants? If it comes in several portions, we can have a better idea > on our colleagues, already known by their writings, but perhaps never > seen before. This is a nice idea, Sergio. I will contact Dr. Reish, who is editing the proceedings, concerning this matter. Conference participants, please bring your best clothes and best smiles! Paulo Lana -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 15 12:13:17 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id MAA07253 Message-Id: <199804151913.MAA07253@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Paulo da Cunha Lana" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Worm collecting & the polychaete conference Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:18:29 -0300 Dear colleagues, Everybody has their own professional and personal feelings re biodiversity and environmental policies. My own points of view are absolutely irrelevant at this point, as far as it concerns the organization of our polychaete conference. Re this delicate topic, the facts are simple: 1) We have a number of environmental regulations in Brazil, which are, by the way, a predictable by-product of scientific concepts and misconcepts mostly generated by well intentioned and influential scientists from developed countries; 2) We live in a democratic country, full of imperfections but also full of qualities, and if we wish we have the right and the adequate mechanisms to question and eventually discard or modify those regulations; 3) In the meantime, we have to comply with them, even we find them inadequate, unfair or just silly. This is part of the social pact that every citizen implicitly makes with all the other citizens, whenever they do agree to live under a representative democratic system. I have spent most of my youth and my formation years under a military dictatorship. I would not say I have good memories from that period. As a consequence, democratic values - personified by our law codes, which were voted under a democratic climate - are very dear to my heart and I would be the very last person to promote the breaking of them; 4) That's all. The chance to have our polychaete fauna decently studied and to enhance cooperation between southamerican polychaetologists and worldwide ones was the main reason I suggested this country as the site for our next conference. I am convinced that all of you will calmly collect all the polychaetes you can or want during your Brazilian stay, handfuls of them, and then calmly take them back to your labs and museums, where the poor things will receive all the scientific attention they deserve and that my own country and its scientists have been unable to provide for. Thanks to all of you who have already sent the requested information concerning collection permits. All the best, Paulo Lana -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed Apr 15 14:55:52 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA04236 Message-Id: <199804152155.OAA04236@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "sashka" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Welcome Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:50:21 +0400 Welcome to my homepage http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/customhouse/60/ Alexander Rzhavsky -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 17 02:15:54 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id CAA29551 Message-Id: <199804170915.CAA29551@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:01:45 +0800 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: qiu jianwen Organization: usthk Subject: _Leonnates_ spp. Dear Annelidans: In recent surveys of Hong Kong's shallow water benthos, Dr. Pei-Yuan Qian and I have collected more than 50 specimens of _Leonnates_ sp. The specimens do not seem to be the folowing three common species of _Leonnates_in this region: _L. jousseanmei_Gravier 1901, _L. decipiens_Fauvel 1929, or _L. persica_Wesenberg-Lund 1949. We also checked Kingberg (1866, p.168) for the type species _L. indica_of the genus which was collected in Singapore, not far away from Hong Kong. The descriptions do not contain sufficient information to judge whether our specimens belong to _L. indica_. According to Fauchald (1977), there are 10 _Leonnates_spp. . We are interested in taxonomic information about any species of this genus or thoughts about relevant references. Your assistance would be very much appreciated. Sincerely, Jian-Wen -- Jian-Wen Qiu Department of Biology The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Clear Water Bay, Kowloon, Hong Kong -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 17 02:15:54 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id CAA29555 Message-Id: <199804170915.CAA29555@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:19:18 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Harry A. ten Hove" Subject: Re: Worm collecting & the polychaete conference Paulo, Well said!!! Nevertheless, when confronted with regulations, in itself necessary, but carried out to the letter and not to the intention, even a scientist occasionally is entitled to raise his hands in despair to heaven. A permit - as I once was given - to collect only 3 specimens of each given species is difficult to comply with if the worms under study are under water, only 60 micron in diameter and recognizable with high power microscope only. (Fortunately it was not carried out to the letter). Resignation not always comes easily, although more so with increasing age. Maybe becoming a grandfather will help my Marseillean friend. Have fun all, and a successful meeting, Wish I could be there! Harry A. ten Hove Institute for Systematics and Population Biology Zoological Museum, University of Amsterdam POB 94766, 1090 GT AMSTERDAM TEL. 3120 5256906 FAX. 3120 5255402 -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 17 02:15:53 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id CAA29554 Message-Id: <199804170915.CAA29554@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Dr. Dieter Fiege" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:22:54 GMT-1 Subject: Re: MNHN Contact Dear Joao: yes, Helmut Zibrowius is right. Last year I had a look at the polychaete collection in Banyuls. It is well maintained by Dr. Amouroux to whom you should turn for any inquiries (amouroux@arago.obs-banyuls.fr) - or even better hop into your car and drive along the wonderful coastline. Sorry for the late response but I have been away from Frankfurt. Good luck, Dieter Dr. Dieter Fiege Forschungsinstitut Senckenberg Sektion Marine Evertebraten II Senckenberganlage 25 D-60325 Frankfurt/M. ph +49-69-7542265 Fax +49-69-746238 http://senckenberg.uni-frankfurt.de dfiege@sng.uni-frankfurt.de -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 17 02:15:53 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id CAA29553 Message-Id: <199804170915.CAA29553@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Cutlereb Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:35:53 EDT Subject: Calcutta Contact?? Dear Colleagues, This is a cry for help. We've been trying for a few months to make contact with the Zoological Survey of India in Calcutta, where I used to have a sipunculan colleage, B. P. Halder - but he's either retired or ???. We've failed to get Any response. Does Anyone have a suggestion? Also - in Pilani there is Birla College which also houses some of DattaGupta's Echiura - and we can raise no one there. Thanks, Ed Cutler -------------------------------------- Edward B. Cutler, PhD Department of Invertebrates Museum of Comparative Zoology Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 USA Telephone: 617-738-0107 (pre-arrange to FAX at 617-277-6330) e-mail: CutlerEB@aol.com URL: http://www.mcz.harvard.edu/Departments/InvertZoo/as.fldr/cutler/cutler.htm -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 17 03:03:08 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id DAA05510 Message-Id: <199804171003.DAA05510@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Eibye-Jacobsen, Danny {ZMUC}" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: For the record Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:13:21 +0200 Dear colleagues, The recent discussion on this list regarding collecting permits and the deposition of type (and other) material in foreign museums may have left some of you with the impression that the Zoological Museum in Copenhagen will uncritically accept and curate any material anyone wishes to deposit here. London and Paris were mentioned in the same connection, but I would not presume to make a statement on their behalf. At this museum the policy is to accept material in good faith if there is no reason to suspect that it has been acquired illegally. Obviously, these suspicions arise much more frequently for curators of certain other animal groups and they have a working relationship with various official Danish agencies that help them resolve any legal issues. Fortunately, I have never found myself in a situation where I have felt the need to contact these agencies, but I know they are there if I need them. I am sure that Linda's remark ("It sure is nice to know that three of the world's major museums are willing to accept illegally collected and/or exported material") was not meant to be understood literally, but probably arose out of the frustration of having to deal with a lot of paperwork that could be perceived as superfluous. In Denmark we fortunately do not (yet) have any equivalent of the Lacey Act. In typical Danish fashion, nobody would dream of proposing a law until a problem becomes very obvious. But getting back to the case of polychaete material, I'm sure Linda will agree that the taxonomic community is relatively small, which means that we almost always know the scientist wishing to deposit types personally. Even at the Smithsonian, which each year receives several times as much material as we do, this is probably the case, at least with polychaetes. It is certainly our policy here to respect all relevant international and national laws and regulations. Most often, a colleague wishing to deposit type material here is him-/herself a citizen of the country of provenance. In such cases there certainly is no reason to suspect any illegality. In other cases we make judgements depending on which country is involved. Just as an example, I would be automatically suspicious of any material recently collected in Indonesia, since I have been led to believe that all collecting in that country is illegal if not done in cooperation with an Indonesian university (or government agency). If we were offered such material I would question the donor as to the circumstances under which it was collected. Just to sum up, Denmark may not have as strict regulations as the U.S., but that does not mean that we do not respect the laws and regulations of other countries. Looking forward to seeing many of you in Curitiba (save a cerveja for me!), Danny Danny Eibye-Jacobsen Zoological Museum, Copenhagen dejacobsen@zmuc.ku.dk -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 17 12:47:20 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id MAA22877 Message-Id: <199804171947.MAA22877@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: Department of Zoology Invertebrate MSU From: "dep.inv.zoology" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 98 15:15:21 +0400 Subject: Scoloplos paper Dear colleagues, My paper "Taxonomy of the genus Scoloplos (Orbiniidae) in White, Barents and North seas" has been recently published in Zoologichesky Zhurnal in Russian language. English version will be published in several months. I will be able to send copies on request if anybody is interested. Yours Anna Zhadan Department of Invertebrate Zoology Biological Faculty Moscow State University Moscow 119899 Russia e-mail zhadan@1.inv.bio.msu.ru -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- (???) the allied families. The order Poeobiida has also been established, but I prefer to follow Fauchald* and keep it lumped in the Flabelligerida. *Fauchald K (1977) The polychaete worms: Definitions and keys to the orders, families and genera. Science Series 28. Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County, p 188 Recent papers on Poeobius meseres include: Childress JJ, Thuesen EV (1993) Effects of hydrostatic pressure on metabolic rates of six species of deep-sea gelatinous zooplankton. Limnol Oceanogr 38:665-670 McGowan JA (1960) The relationship of the distribution of the planktonic worm, Poeobius meseres Heath, to the water masses of the North Pacific. Deep-Sea Res 6:125-139 Robbins DE (1965) The biology and morphology of the pelagic annelid Poeobius meseres Heath. J Zool 146:197-212 Thuesen EV, Childress JJ (1993) Metabolic rates, enzyme activities and chemical compositions of some deep-sea pelagic worms, particularly Nectonemertes mirabilis (Nemertea; Hoplonemertinea) and Poeobius meseres (Annelida; Polychaeta). Deep-Sea Res 40:937-951 Uttal L, Buck KR (1996) Dietary study of the midwater polychaete Poeobius meseres in Monterey Bay, California. Mar Bio 125:333-343 Uttal-Cooke L (1992) Feeding habits of the midwater polychaete, Poeobius meseres (Heath, 1930) in Monterey Bay, California. Unpublished M.S. Thesis. Moss Landing Marine Laboratories, San Jose State University, 50 p. ERIK ******************************* * Erik V. Thuesen, Ph.D. * * Lab II * * The Evergreen State College * * Olympia, Washington 98505 * * * * Voice: 360-866-6000 x6584 * * Fax: 360-866-6794 * ******************************* -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Mon Apr 20 14:44:56 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA22567 Message-Id: <199804202144.OAA22567@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: Department of Zoology Invertebrate MSU From: "dep.inv.zoology" Date: Mon, 20 Apr 98 16:54:54 +0400 Subject: Scoloplos paper sending Dear colleagues, Thanks to everyone who responded to my mail. My paper is called: "Taxonomy of the genus Scoloplos (Orbiniidae) in the White, Barents and North seas" Zoologicheskij Zhurnal, 1998, vol.77, N 2, p.177-190. Russian version will be published in "Russian Journal of Zoology" - it is the english version of Zool. Zhurnal. I will send the english version of my paper as soon as it is published. Yours Anna Zhadan. ****************************************** Anna E.Zhadan Department of Invertebrate Zoology Biological faculty Moscow State University Moscow 119899 Russia -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Mon Apr 20 15:49:34 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id PAA02035 Message-Id: <199804202249.PAA02035@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:28:17 +1100 Subject: Risks and benefits of polychaetophagia? Folk, I need help with this question on an annelidan contribution to human cuisine and possible dangers in immoderate Palolo, Lumbricus consumption, etc. Please reply to the list if of general interest or else to . As annelid parasites do transmit to the vertebrate predators (fish & birds) the risk is not negligible for ourselves? ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "Nils Grabowski" Organization: TIHO-HANNOVER To: g.read@niwa.cri.nz Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:51:31 MEZ-1MDZ Dear Sir, by chance I found your homepage regarding worldwide research in Annelida. At present I am preparing a small presentation on entomophagia as an option to combat hunger and I have discovered that the internet system is quite suitable for establishing contact with specialists all over the world. As there is a straight relationship between Polychaeta and Arthropoda I was wondering whether there is any information regarding edibility of some Polychaeta members (i.e. the annelids in a stricter sense) including nutrient analysis etc. In fact, as far as I know, some annelids are edible, as survivor sportsmen have proven. Yet I am not sure if some native people have the cultural habit of feeding on these animal regularly. Another thing that is of particular interest to me as a vet is the question if, in case that some Polychaeta groups are eaten regularly, there is any health risk implied. As you know, many parasitic worm species use invertebrate hosts at certain levels of their development, and some carry further parasites even inside themselves resulting thus a double danger. As I do not want to spoil your precious time too much I would appreciate it very much if you could give me the address of somebody who is working on this subject. yours sincerely, TA.PMVZ. Nils Th. Grabowski, veterinarian, College of Veterinary Studies in Hanover, FRG. species chose invertebrat -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Mon Apr 20 19:02:12 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id TAA26742 Message-Id: <199804210202.TAA26742@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:52:13 +1100 Subject: The metamorphosis of J-M Amoureux Folks, Amoureux/Amouroux There is an impressive publication record for Louis Amoureux, and an increasing one for the younger J-M Amouroux. However, I have just satisfied myself that the hybrid J-M Amoureux does not exist, at least as an author on polychaetes and benthos. Accordingly the four references that you might find under that name in the Ward & Fauchald database should be corrected and credited to Dr Jean-Michel Amouroux. -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue Apr 21 14:37:29 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA10719 Message-Id: <199804212137.OAA10719@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Eibye-Jacobsen, Danny {ZMUC}" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Amoureux & Amouroux Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:43:54 +0200 Dear colleagues, Geoff raises a good point regarding the confusion with the names Amoureux and Amouroux. Geoff mentions that four of the papers in Fauchald & Ward's huge bibliography contain the "illegal" combination J-M Amoureux. To save you time, the references in question are the ones numbered 2506, 2507, 3002 and 8292. All you have to do is open the bibliography, click on "Edit", type the first number, answer yes (this is the reference I meant), make the correction, save the reference (Alt-S) and type in the next number. It only takes about a minute. Hoping this saves you some time, Danny Danny Eibye-Jacobsen Zoological Museum, Copenhagen dejacobsen@zmuc.ku.dk -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu Apr 23 14:52:42 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA27773 Message-Id: <199804232152.OAA27773@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:44:17 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: tparker@lacsd.org (Tom Parker) Organization: LACSD Subject: Polychaete web sites Greetings: Interested wormers may want to visit the addresses: This is a page for non-indigenous (USA) annelids....possibly people will have information to submit or correct..the page seems well set up to permit submissions and comments. Also of interest: This has some Potamilla abundance data and such. Bye for now, Tom Parker tparker@lacsd.org -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu Apr 23 15:53:49 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id PAA06823 Message-Id: <199804232253.PAA06823@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:40:20 +1100 Subject: Re: Polychaete web sites Tom Parker wrote: > Interested wormers may want to visit the addresses: http://nas.nfrcg.gov/annelids/annelids.htm http://www.iep.ca.gov/sdfg/annelid.html Indeed they may. And for some time both links have been on my field-trips page at annelid resources. By the way seven of the ten links at the NAS page to other sites are to our own pages at annelid resources - and without any acknowledgement. Interesting ... perhaps I should drop them a polite note? Very new at annelid resources is a translation of Orsted 1843 "Groenlands Annulata Dorsibranchiata," and links to a couple of pages speculating if Columbus's mysterious landfall light of 1492 related to spawning Odontosyllis! Many thanks to Leslie Harris for all of those. I haven't previously mentioned it here but some time ago I put in a page covering the recent spate of annelid phylogeny papers. http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/phylum-state.html Also there is an online version of Greg and Kristian's clade classification at: http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/pc-order.html The situation with the PRO list is that I am updating and adding to the online version as the requests come in. I haven't changed the downloadable zip file - will do when it seems necessary. Comments, corrections, new links to: -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri Apr 24 18:43:12 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id SAA17890 Message-Id: <199804250143.SAA17890@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Paulo da Cunha Lana" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Polychaete conference - Iguacu-Amazon Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:40:40 -0300 Dear colleagues, Thirty-six people, including conference participants and accompanying persons, have stated that they intend to travel to the Iguacu-Amazon after the Curitiba conference and that they will buy a VARIG air pass. If you are one of those, PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE CAREFULLY. The excursion is being partially organised by VANETOUR travel agency, located in Curitiba (Buenos Aires Street, 499 - Tel/fax + 55 41 2234417 c/o Elizabete Gavlovski). Please notice that when you buy the pass in your native countries you will be asked to make all the flight reservations in advance. The travel plan I am including here is basically the final one. You will need this information to buy your pass. I believe that the prices of the pass will vary between US $ 490.00 and US $ 540.00 dollars, depending of your provenance. Please take the following information to your travel agency in order to make your air pass flight reservations: August 8 - Curitiba-Foz do Iguagu - Flight VARIG 168 - 09:35 AM/arrival 10:45 AM (in Foz do Iguagu you will visit Iguagu falls, both in the Brazilian and Argentinean sides. You will stay in Colonial Hotel, a confortable two-star hotel, with dinner and breakfast included) August 10 - Foz do Iguagu-Sco Paulo - Flight VARIG 161 - 07:15 AM/arrival 08:45 AM August 10 - Sco Paulo-Manaus - Flight VARIG 200 - 10:45 AM/arrival 13:15 PM (in Manaus, you will stay in Tropical Hotel, which belongs to VARIG. It is a magnificent place, from where you can carry out some short, guided tours to the nearby amazonian forest) August 13 - Manaus - Fortaleza - Flight VARIG 303 - 15:10 AM/arrival 21:15 PM (Fortaleza is a nice seaside resort, with beautiful beaches, located in Ceara, northeastern Brazil) August 15 (or when you prefer, since the group will most probably split) - Fortaleza to the city from where you will be leaving Brazil (probably Rio de Janeiro or Sco Paulo to most of you). You will have to contact VARIG, ask for the best time schedules and organize your leaving by yourselves. If you need, I can suggest hotel names in Sco Paulo, Rio de Janeiro or any other city you plan to go (basically the same ones suggested by the Lonely Planet Travel Guide). As a suggestion, if you have the time, I would advice you to spend two or more days in Rio de Janeiro, before leaving the country. No tours will be organized there, but I can send useful information re touristic attractions and hotels (fax or phone numbers of selected and reasonably-priced ones). Final prices will of course depend upon the number of people who will actually take part in the excursion, since most of the costs will be shared. If everybody listed below confirm and accept the distribution in single or double rooms as indicated (please remember that all of you stated, in your first registration form, sent last year, whether you would or not share rooms), price per person - NOT including the pass - in a double room (two- to four-star hotels, including breakfast, transport to and from airport, guided tours, but not main meals) will be about US 420.00 dollars. Reasonable meals can cost something between US $ 8.00 and US $ 20.00 dollars per person. Price per person in a single room will be about US 700.00 dollars. If everybody confirm, prices can be lower, depending upon further negotiations currently being carried out by the travel agency with local hotels, but never higher. This is the list of interested people, together with the proposed single or double-room allocation: Carmen BRITO and Jorge NUQEZ (double room) Nechama BEN-ELIAHU and Maria Cristina GAMBI Michel BHAUD and Oscar MONTERROSO Franklin CARRASCO and Sandra CISTERNAS Chang-Po CHEN and Hwey-Lian HSIEH Victoria DIAZ-CASTANEDA (single room) David GEORGE and Jennifer GEORGE Louis GOSSELIN and Salvador HERRANDO-PEREZ Patricia HUTCHINGS and Anna MURRAY Daniel MARTIN and Dolors RUSSELL Kenji OKOSHI and Waka SATO-OKOSHI, together with Namiko OKOSHI e Kaiki OKOSHI Hideko OKOSHI and Kiyoshi OKOSHI Guillermo SAN MARTIN and Iraida FERNANDEZ Paul SCHROEDER and Alice SCHROEDER Vivianne SOLIS-WEISS (single room) Romana CAPACCIONI-AZZATTI and Jose PARDO Michelle THOMPSON and Birgit HILBIG (to confirm) Ivan CAQETE and Oscar IRIBARNE If you have planned to take part in the excursion and your name is NOT included, please warn me as soon as possible. If you have not planned to take part in the excursion and your name IS included, please warn me as soon as possible. I will not be able to plan individual trips. At the best, I can send you useful touristic information, but I will not be able to contact any further travel agencies, hotels, and so on. I will definitely need your final confirmations (including flight reservations) NOT LATER than May 15 (and preferably much earlier than that). No exceptions will be accepted, and this deadend schedule will not be postponed. After that, I will be completely unable to carry out any further arrangements concerning the postconference excursions, because all my energy will be directed towards the scientific agenda of the meeting itself. PLEASE NOTICE THAT MANY OF YOU (NORTH-AMERICAN, CANADIAN, CHINESE, AUSTRALIAN, MEXICAN, JAPANESE CITIZENS) WILL NEED A VALID BRAZILIAN VISA (AND MAYBE AN ARGENTINEAN ONE). PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO CONTACT YOUR LOCAL BRAZILIAN AND ARGENTINEAN EMBASSIES OR CONSULATES TO CHECK THIS. A YELLOW-FEVER CERTIFICATE IS REQUIRED TO VISIT THE AMAZONIAN REGION. YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY TO MANAUS IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE. Please reply directly to me and not to the Annelida list (do not use the reply-to function in your e-mail application). I really hope to get prompt replies from you. Be sure all of you will have a most wonderful time in Brazil. Looking forward to hearing from you soon, I send all my best regards, Paulo Lana lana@aica.cem.ufpr.br -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Sun Apr 26 14:44:39 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA24827 Message-Id: <199804262144.OAA24827@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Ana Claudia dos Santos Brasil" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Magelonidae Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 12:19:35 -0300 Dear colleagues, I will soon start a phylogenetic analysis of Magelonidae, as a doctoral thesis under the supervision of Paulo Lana. I would really appreciate to receive information re current worldwide activities related to this group. I'll attend the Polychaete Conference (August1998/Brazil) and would like to meet researchers who work with this family. Thank you in advance for your attention. See you in Curitiba! Ana Claudia -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- A/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html --