From daemon Sun May 3 15:32:09 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id PAA02415 Message-Id: <199805032232.PAA02415@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 22:30:10 +0000 Subject: Oligochaetes and cluster flies Hello folks, A question for those with an oligochaete background or with direct experience of these flies! Does anyone know any interesting biology or have information sources on the cluster flies, Pollenia, or other dipterans, in relation to earthworm parasitism, updated beyond what I see in Stephenson 1930:654? What are cluster flies? Further info at: http://ctr.uvm.edu/ctr/el/el11.htm Apparently Pollenia pseudorudis made its way to New Zealand in the recent past. I am uncertain whether the colonisers established or died out. -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Sun May 3 21:22:35 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id VAA17870 Message-Id: <199805040422.VAA17870@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: 110275.1004@compuserve.com Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 22:49:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Oligochaetes and cluster flies Hi Geoff, My experience with cluster flies is mostly confined to admiring their astounding numbers on the windows all winter. According to Swan & Papp, 1972. The Common Insects of North America. Harper & Row, NY. our common species is Pollenia rudis. I have no information on P. pseudorudis. P. rudis is known throughout the US, most of Canada, Europe and Africa. Resembles a larger, darker house fly, clumsy flier with a loud buzz. Eggs (about 10 mm) are deposited indiscriminately in the soil. Larva enters body of earthworm (megadrile, not microdrile) where it feeds for about 13 days and leaves host to pupate in soil. Adult emerges two weeks later. Four broods/yr, adults often accumulate in attics, closets or empty rooms in the fall but do no harm (disgusting but harmless). I can testify that they are able to survive temperatures of -30 degrees C overnight but they prefer warm sunny windows. Judy Fournier <110275.1004@compuserve.com> -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Mon May 4 20:24:08 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id UAA25121 Message-Id: <199805050324.UAA25121@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:17:22 +1100 Subject: Preview Santa Barbara taxonomic atlas v7 Folks, A listing of the contents of Volume 7 (Annelida, Part 4) covering Flabelligeridae to Ampharetidae is online at the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History web site. http://www.sbnature.org/atlas/ta7.htm -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 5 15:09:24 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id PAA15961 Message-Id: <199805052209.PAA15961@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 10:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: jablake@ix.netcom.com (JAMES A. BLAKE) Subject: Re: Preview Santa Barbara taxonomic atlas v7 Folks, Geoff has noticed a listing of the contents for Volume 7 of the Taxonomic Atlas of the Santa Maria Basin (Flabelligeridae to Ampharetidae) on the Santa Barbara Museum web site. I want to inform everyone that those contents are essentially meaningless. They refer to the final report version that was submitted to the Department of the Interior back in 1996 in order to close out the contract. At that time, only five families had been completed: Flabelligeridae, Acrocirridae, Fauveliopsidae, Capitellidae, and Ampharetidae. All chapters were and still are in review and revision and 7 additional families will be added to the published version. At this time, we anticipate completing the draft of Volume 7 by the end of the summer, hopefully to be officially published before 1998 comes to a close. Completion of vol. 7 has been painfully slow due to all of the authors being busy on other projects and activities. If you are not aware, volumes 4-6 are now fully back in print. Vol.4 in fact, has been partially revised and represents a revised edition. Changes included editing to bring the style of descriptions more in line with vols. 5-6, correction of errors and typos, and clarification of several keys, descriptions, and identifications. Anyone needing copies of these volumes can contact Paul Scott at the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History for ordering information. Cheers, Jim Blake (jablake@ix.netcom.com) -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 5 18:26:52 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id SAA09572 Message-Id: <199805060126.SAA09572@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 12:52:42 +1100 Subject: Re: Preview Santa Barbara taxonomic atlas v7 > Geoff has noticed a listing of the contents for Volume 7 of the > Taxonomic Atlas of the Santa Maria Basin (Flabelligeridae to > Ampharetidae) on the Santa Barbara Museum web site. > > I want to inform everyone that those contents are essentially > meaningless. They refer to the final report version that was submitted > to the Department of the Interior back in 1996 in order to close out the > contract. :-) Lest anyone get the impression this is an old page Altavista believes it has a date of 9 April 1998, and more importantly there is no indication it is an incompIete or preliminary version of the contents of v7. However, I fully understand Jim Blake has no direct involvement or control over any misleading information placed on Santa Barbara Museum web site, and I thank him very much for providing the reality to Annelida list members. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing volume 7 in print ASAP. No doubt its authors are too! -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed May 6 01:46:34 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id BAA25768 Message-Id: <199805060846.BAA25768@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:15:50 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Joao Gil Subject: Santa Barbara Taxonomic Atlas Dear friends: I might be wrong, but maybe everybody that bought the first editions of the Taxonomic Atlas would like to have an errata of what was corrected or changed in the new editions. Maybe this errata could be available at the ANNELIDA web site. Or maybe this is not possible. Best wishes, Joao Gil ******************************************* Joao Gil Centre d'Estudis Avancats de Blanes Cami de Santa Barbara, s/n E-17300 BLANES (GIRONA), SPAIN Telef.: 34-72-33.61.01 Fax: 34-72-33.78.06 E-mail: gil@ceab.csic.es -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed May 6 14:54:14 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA26371 Message-Id: <199805062154.OAA26371@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 15:48:03 +0100 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Gudmundur Vidir Helgason Subject: Sandgerdi Marine Centre, Iceland [ Has been to several listservs already, and now us - apologies for any duplication -- GBR ] SANDGERDI MARINE CENTRE FIRST CALL FOR APPLICATIONS TO WORK AT THE LARGE SCALE FACILITY The Sandgerdi Marine Centre (SMC) in Iceland has been granted the status of Large Scale Facility under the TMR (Training and Mobility of Researchers) programme of the European Commission. This opens possibilities for scientists to apply for grants to stay at SMC for a period of 2 to 12 weeks. Comfortable accommodation is provided for visiting scientists within the SMC building. The grant covers travel expenses, accommodations at SMC, and other expenses connected with scientific work. Systematic collection of marine benthic invertebrates. Iceland is located on the Greenland-Scotland Ridge (GS- Ridge) on the biogeographic border of the North Atlantic Boreal and the Arctic Regions. The main attraction of the Sandgerdi Marine Centre (SMC) is a unique collection of benthic invertebrates, collected at both sides of the GS-Ridge, down to depths of 3000m and where bottom water temperatures range between -0.9 C and 8 C. The samples were collected during the international BIOICE project (Benthic Invertebrates of Icelandic Waters) which has been operated since 1992, and is still in progress. The initial stages of sorting have been carried out, providing an accessible array of most major taxa of benthic invertebrates. The systematic collection of bentich animals at the SMC and the Icelandic Museum of Natural History offer a wide variety of possible research projects, including studies on taxonomy, phylogeny, zoogeography, and biodiversity of benthic communities in the Arctic and the North Atlantic Oceans. Laboratory facilities The SMC is located in Sandgerdi, a small fishing village on the southwest coast of Iceland (50 km from the capital city, Reykjavik). The SMC is equipped with high quality standard laboratory instruments (microscopes with camera, videocamera, computers, etc), running seawater of exceptionally high quality (constant 9 C, salinity 32.05 PSU) originating from a 50m deep well in the lava-beds. The contaminant-free seawater offer unique possibilities for experimental work with marine organisms, like studies on toxicology, physiology, behaviour and other general marine biological studies under controlled conditions. Access to Scanning Electronic Microscope can be arranged through the University of Iceland, Reykjavik. Collecting opportunities The seashore around the lab harbours a great variety of shore organisms that are easily attainable during low tide (approximately 3.5 m tidal range). A small research vessel equipped with a wide variety of sampling gear (grabs, dredges, nets etc.) is available. Eligibility Scientists from CEC member states and associated states (Norway, Liechtenstein and Israel; Switzerland in negotiation) except from Iceland may submit proposals. Proposals for the first call should be sent as soon as possible, but at the latest by 31.05.1998, to: The Project Manager of the Sandgerdi Marine Centre Gudmundur V. Helgason, Institute of Biology, University of Iceland, Grensasvegur 12, IS-108 Reykjavik, Iceland, E-mail: gudmvid@hi.is. Tel: + 354 525 4619 Fax: + 354 525 4069 For further information and application form see our web site http://www.hi.is/pub/smc -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed May 6 14:54:14 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA26370 Message-Id: <199805062154.OAA26370@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:57:50 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: jablake@ix.netcom.com (JAMES A. BLAKE) Subject: Errata List for Santa Barbara Taxonomic Atlas Folks, Joao Gil has made a good point: >....maybe everybody that bought the first editions of the Taxonomic >Atlas would like to have an errata of what was corrected or >changed in the new editions. At this time, there is no composite list of what was corrected or changed in the revised edition of Vol. 4, and it will be impossible to compile everything because some changes were of an editorial nature. However, it will be possible to compile a list of changes that were actual errors that were corrected or concepts that were altered. I will see what I can do and will post this here when it is ready. Bye, Jim Blake (jablake@ix.netcom.com) -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu May 7 02:01:26 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id CAA14123 Message-Id: <199805070901.CAA14123@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 07:18:52 GMT Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Peter Wirtz Subject: Re: Sandgerdi Marine Centre, Iceland Iceland is a bit too cold for the animals I am working on. However, the recent posting about the nice facilities at the laboratory there has made me wonder: Which other labs in warmer parts of the Atlantic have similar programs ? Peter Dr. Peter Wirtz biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt http://www.uma.pt/sbmo/pwirtz.html -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Sun May 10 23:19:52 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id XAA00989 Message-Id: <199805110619.XAA00989@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:08:43 +1100 Subject: British Fauna Synopses no 54 - Chambers & Muir Hello folks, A trivial thing - My copy of Chambers & Muir 1997 has a totally blank page where pages 55 and 73 should be. Could someone please confirm this is an 'intentional' defect in book production and that there is no text lost. I liked the inclusion of a section on 'undescribed or unrecognisable named specimens' in this report. Chambers,SJ; Muir,AI (1997): Polychaetes: British Chrysopetaloidea, Pisionoidea and Aphroditoidea. Synopses of the British Fauna 54, 1-202. Available from Backhuys: http://www.euronet.nl/users/backhuys/ -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Mon May 11 04:37:02 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id EAA04647 Message-Id: <199805111137.EAA04647@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:04:07 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Susan Chambers Subject: Re: British Fauna Synopses no 54 - Chambers & Muir Hello, As one of the authors of the British Fauna Synopses No 54 I hope I can explain the blank pages. The original publishers of the series thought it would be more useful if ALL the descriptions were on the left hand page and the relevant illustration on the opposite page. Occasionally this means a blank page has to be inserted in order to follow this format. I know it looks odd and some people may think part of the key is missing but on the whole I think the format does make it easy to use. Susan Chambers National Museums of Scotland Edinburgh EH1 1JF 0131 225 7534 x4247 0131 247 4247 Fax: 0131 220 4819 email sjc@nms.ac.uk -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 12 00:08:05 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id AAA17170 Message-Id: <199805120708.AAA17170@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:22:49 +1000 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Michael Taylor Subject: motionless annelids Dear all, I am attempting to use image analysis to count and calculate earthworm size distributions (Eisenia fetida) in a sample of several hundred worms. I need to take a digital image of motionless earthworms however these worms must be returned to their habitat virtually unaffected by their ordeal. The worms must be motionless for the digital image (photograph) and preferably without muscle tension. I would appreciate any suggestions of how this task may be achieved. Many thanks Michael Taylor ************************************************ Michael Taylor, Department of Chemical Engineering, The University of Queensland St. Lucia 4072, Ph 07 3365 7520; International 61 7 3365 7520 Fax 07 3365 4199; International 61 7 3365 4199 ************************************************ -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 12 15:14:59 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id PAA26970 Message-Id: <199805122214.PAA26970@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:10:22 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: tparker@lacsd.org (Tom Parker) Organization: LACSD Subject: worm fixative Greetings: Recently some information has circulated about the use of a new fixative for use in sample preservation. Anatech Ltd sells it under the name "Prefer" It is listed as a glyoxal and ethanol based tissue fixative for general histology. It supposedly does not have the health/safety/disposal problems of formalin. Does anyone have experience with this product in polychaete work? bye for now, Tom Parker tparker@lacsd.org -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 12 15:15:02 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id PAA27003 Message-Id: <199805122215.PAA27003@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Jennifer Cline Gregg Subject: Lumbrineridae ================= GBR short-circuit reply: The combination Scoletoma acicularum (Webster & Benedict 1887) is apparently in Frame '92. Context unknown as the paper is not immediately to hand. Frame,Ann B (1992): The lumbrinerids (Annelida: Polychaeta) collected in two northwestern Atlantic surveys with descriptions of a new genus and two new species. Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington 105(2), 185-218. ================ I am looking for a paper describing Scoletoma acicularum (previously Lumbrineris acicularm I think) and some information on the life history of this animal. If you have any suggestions for a reference, I would greatly appreciate the help. Thank you, Jennifer Gregg Institute of Marine and Coastal Sciences Rutgers, the State University 71 Dudley Road New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8521 USA -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 12 15:15:04 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id PAA27028 Message-Id: <199805122215.PAA27028@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:05:20 +0100 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Gudmundur Vidir Helgason Subject: Re: Sandgerdi Marine Centre, Iceland The only other LargeScale Facility that I know of similar to Sandgerdi Marine Centre is Kristineberg Marine Station in Sweden. Gudmundur V. Helgason At 07:18 7.5.1998 +0000, you wrote: >Iceland is a bit too cold for the animals I am working on. However, the >recent posting about the nice facilities at the laboratory there has made me >wonder: >Which other labs in warmer parts of the Atlantic have similar programs ? >Peter > >Dr. Peter Wirtz >biomar@dragoeiro.uma.pt -------------------------------------------------------- Gudmundur Vidir Helgason Tel 354 525 4619 Institute of Biology Fax 354 525 4069 University of Iceland E-mail: gudmvid@hi.is Grensasvegur 12 108 Reykjavik and Sandgerdi Marine Centre Gardvegi 1 245 Sandgerdi Iceland -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- overnment funding has been expended, and we are now operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our Web site at http://www.bio.net/. We need just a few minutes of your time to help us serve you. 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Because of our limited personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have resources to edit old forms. -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 12 15:20:17 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id PAA27728 Message-Id: <199805122220.PAA27728@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:54:55 -0300 (EST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: TATIANA MENCHINI STEINER - IBI - ZOOLOGIA-7022 #070000# Subject: Eunicidae Dear Annelidans, I am a graduate student (Master Degree), at the University of Sao Paulo (USP/SP), Brazil, working on polychaete systematics, under the supervision of Dra. A. Cecilia Z. Amaral, from University of Campinas (UNICAMP/SP), Brazil. I have some questions about the eunicid family and I really would be grateful for any contribution about this matter. According to traditional genera identification keys, 'Marphysa', 'Lysidice', and 'Nematonereis' are mainly distinguishable based on occipital antennae number. The genus 'Marphysa' possesses other relevant features at a specific level as type and distribution of the compound setae and branchiae, that allow identification. In 1983, a new eunicid genus was erected, 'Lysibranchia' ('Lysibranchia paucibranchiata' Cantone, 1983 type-species). This genus was described as having three antennae, compound spiniger and falciger setae, and branchiae. But, the same characters appear in 'Marphysa mauritanica' Gillet, 1990 and 'Marphysa unibranchiata' Knox & Cameron, 1970. According to researches on 'Marphysa' larval development and growth, the median occipital antenna appears first on very young specimens, followed by the first lateral pair, and finally by the second lateral pair. The setae change according to the stage, and the branchiae appear just in a latter growth stage. In this view, Parapar et. al., 1993 (Aportaciones a la taxonomia y autoecologia de los anelidos de la Peninsula Iberica: poliquetos de la Ria de Ferrol. Cah. Biol. Mar., 34) pointed out that 'L. paucibranchiata' and 'Marphysa mauritanica' specimens are juveniles of 'Marphysa bellii'and 'Marphysa sanguinea', respectively. Considering the aspects mentioned above, I would like to know how to discern 'Marphysa' juveniles from 'Lysidice' and 'Lysibranchia' species, supposing that 'Lysibranchia' is a valid genus? Would be body length and width and setiger number (informations sometimes lack) good indicators to discern among them, too? Anybody has some information about this matter? Thank you in advance for your attention. Tatiana --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Tatiana Menchini Steiner Depto. de Zoologia - IB UNICAMP - Barao Geraldo 13083-970 - Campinas, SP BRASIL FAX - 55 19 2893124 -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 12 16:58:08 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id QAA09694 Message-Id: <199805122358.QAA09694@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:36:35 +1100 Subject: Annelida admin: Who are you? Folks, I take this opportunity - when you will not be able to identify the minority of recent non-conformers - to state my preference as moderator for the way messages should be signed off. Please ALWAYS add your E-MAIL ADDRESS manually at the end of a message or simply include it in your signature file. If you do not I will do it for you. If I can find it in the header I may also add your name at the end - supposing you also forget to do this! The e-mail address is rather more important than including your telephone numbers & lengthy postal address. Some e-mail programs will indicate only that the message comes from Annelida, making it difficult to reply off-list. And your name should be there at the end as a courtesy (Should it not? Preferably your full name as not everyone can identify you by your first name). Thank you, -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 12 18:36:43 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id SAA19453 Message-Id: <199805130136.SAA19453@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:27:35 +0800 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Dr. P. Y. Qian" Organization: Biology Department, HKUST Subject: Postdoctoral positions, Hong Kong Advertisement of Postdoctoral Research Associates Applications are now invited for two postdoctoral research associate positions in my research laboratory at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. Both positions are open immediately and the candidates have to obtain their Ph.D. degree by the time of assuming their duty (or at least certain evidence for completion of Ph.D. degree requirement). Position 1: Chemical Ecologist Duties: To screen and isolate the chemical compounds from marine organisms that either induce or inhibit larval settlement of marine invertebrates, particularly major fouling organisms in Hong Kong waters. She/he shall have a good background in analytic chemistry, the procedures and facilities for chemical extraction and separation, preferably with experience with HPLC and GC-mass. Some experience on larval biology of marine invertebrates will be helpful but not essential. Position 2: Benthic ecologist Duties: To help in managing projects on environmental impact assessment (EIA) on benthic community. She/he shall have a good background in benthic marine invertebrates (preferably with some experience in systematics in mollusks or arthropods). Strong background in biostatistics is essential as the candidate will spend most of his/her time on computers rather than any field works. My lab has been studying larval settlement and reproductive ecology of marine fouling organisms from Hong Kong waters (pure science). Meanwhile, we have been conducting environmental impact assessment for Hong Kong Government (applied biology). At this moment, the lab consists of two post doctors (both in natural product chemistry, graduated from Germany), two Ph. D. students, two master degree students, two full-time Research Assistants, two student helps, one full-time technician, and one visiting Ph.D. student (from U. Melbourne). It is expected that two graduate students will graduate by the end of this year but two new graduate students will join the lab in September. The laboratory is fully equipped for research projects in both microscopic (DNA work) and macroscopic scale (community ecology). We have the state-of-art facilities for larval/algal culture and for chemical extraction, isolation, and purification. Salary/benefit: The salary for postdoctoral research associate at this university is HK$25,750 per month at this moment (it may increase by 5-6% each year). The successful candidate will also receive medical and dental insurance. Fund will also be available for the postdoc to attend international conference. However, it is stipulated by the government policy that there will not be any moving expenses for the postdoc. Application Procedures Candidates who are interested in applying for the above posts are invited to send their c.v. and two reference letters to me directly either through e-mail or through fax no later than June 15, 1998 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr. Pei-Yuan Qian Associate Professor in Biology Associate Director of Center for Coastal and Atmospheric Research (CCAR) Co-ordinator of MSc. Environmental Science Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Clear Water Bay, Hong Kong ------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail:boqianpy@uxmail.ust.hk In Biology Area Fax:0852-2358-1559 Tel:0852-2358-7331(Office) Tel:0852-2358-7336/7337(Lab) In CCAR area Tel:0852-2358-6905(Office) Fax:0852-2358-1582 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 12 23:41:06 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id XAA25539 Message-Id: <199805130641.XAA25539@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:28:36 +1100 Subject: Palmar and palmate membranes Dear Sabellida workers, In front of me I have the Nelson-Smith OECD booklet on fouling serpulids open at figure one. Please tell me that the strange asymmetric palmar membrane illustrated is a misinterpretation of McIntosh's lithograph (on opposite page) and that 'palmar membrane' is merely an (incorrect?) term for fusion or webbing of the radiole edges. Palmate membrane in sabellids seems to be a more established term. Would I be right in thinking this would only be used (if it still is) when there is actually webbing present, rather than fusion of radiole edges? Finally I would like suggestions as to the owner & nature of the structure illustrated in fig 67 of 'the pink book.' What is it do you think? :-) -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed May 13 11:54:02 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id LAA27025 Message-Id: <199805131854.LAA27025@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Paulo da Cunha Lana" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Postconference excursion Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:06:51 -0300 Dear colleagues, As stated in a recent circular, please notice that if you plan to attend the postconference excursion, you have to confirm your air pass reservations till May 15. Just in case you have lost this circular (sent through Annelida and personally to all interested people), I am repeating it in the body of this message. If we do not receive such a confirmation, your name will be removed from the list of interested people. This date will not be postponed. Best regards, Organizing Committee Sixth International Polychaete Conference lana@aica.cem.ufpr.br [please reply to the address above] Postconference excursion circular : Dear colleagues, Thirty-six people, including conference participants and accompanying persons, have stated that they intend to travel to the Iguacu-Amazon after the Curitiba conference and that they will buy a VARIG air pass. If you are one of those, PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE CAREFULLY. The excursion is being partially organised by VANETOUR travel agency, located in Curitiba (Buenos Aires Street, 499 - Tel/fax + 55 41 2234417 c/o Elizabete Gavlovski, e-mail address: vanetour.turismo@avalon.sul.com.br). Please notice that when you buy the pass in your native countries you will be asked to make all the flight reservations in advance. The travel plan I am including here is basically the final one. You will need this information to buy your pass. I believe that the prices of the pass will vary between US $ 490.00 and US $ 540.00 dollars, depending of your provenance. Please take the following information to your travel agency in order to make your air pass flight reservations: August 8 - Curitiba-Foz do Iguatu - Flight VARIG 168 - 09:35 AM/arrival 10:45 AM (in Foz do Iguatu you will visit Iguatu falls, both in the Brazilian and Argentinean sides. You will stay in Colonial Hotel, a confortable two-star hotel, with dinner and breakfast included) August 10 - Foz do Iguatu-Spo Paulo - Flight VARIG 161 - 07:15 AM/arrival 08:45 AM August 10 - Spo Paulo-Manaus - Flight VARIG 200 - 10:45 AM/arrival 13:15 PM (in Manaus, you will stay in Tropical Hotel, which belongs to VARIG. It is a magnificent place, from where you can carry out some short, guided tours to the nearby amazonian forest) August 13 - Manaus - Fortaleza - Flight VARIG 303 - 15:10 AM/arrival 21:15 PM (Fortaleza is a nice seaside resort, with beautiful beaches, located in Cearss, northeastern Brazil) August 15 (or when you prefer, since the group will most probably split) - Fortaleza to the city from where you will be leaving Brazil (probably Rio de Janeiro or Spo Paulo to most of you). You will have to contact VARIG, ask for the best time schedules and organize your leaving by yourselves. If you need, I can suggest hotel names in Spo Paulo, Rio de Janeiro or any other city you plan to go (basically the same ones suggested by the Lonely Planet Travel Guide). As a suggestion, if you have the time, I would advise you to spend two or more days in Rio de Janeiro, before leaving the country. No tours will be organized there, but I can send useful information re touristic attractions and hotels (fax or phone numbers of selected and reasonably-priced ones). Final prices will of course depend upon the number of people who will actually take part in the excursion, since most of the costs will be shared. If everybody listed below confirm and accept the distribution in single or double rooms as indicated (please remember that all of you stated, in your first registration form, sent last year, whether you would or not share rooms), price per person - NOT including the pass - in a double room (two- to four-star hotels, including breakfast, transport to and from airport, guided tours, but not main meals) will be about US 420.00 dollars. Reasonable meals can cost something between US $ 8.00 and US $ 20.00 dollars per person. Price per person in a single room will be about US 700.00 dollars. If everybody confirm, prices can be lower, depending upon further negociations currently being carried out by the travel agency with local hotels, but never higher. This is the list of interested people, together with the proposed single or double-room allocation: Carmen BRITO and Jorge NU-EZ (double room) Nechama BEN-ELIAHU and Maria Cristina GAMBI Michel BHAUD and Oscar MONTERROSO Franklin CARRASCO and Sandra CISTERNAS Chang-Po CHEN and Hwey-Lian HSIEH Victoria DIAZ-CASTANEDA (single room) David GEORGE and Jennifer GEORGE Louis GOSSELIN and Salvador HERRANDO-PEREZ Patricia HUTCHINGS and Anna MURRAY Daniel MARTIN and Dolors RUSSELL Kenji OKOSHI and Waka SATO-OKOSHI, together with Namiko OKOSHI e Kaiki OKOSHI Hideko OKOSHI and Kiyoshi OKOSHI Guillermo SAN MARTIN and Iraida FERNANDEZ Paul SCHROEDER and Alice SCHROEDER Vivianne SOLIS-WEISS (single room) Romana CAPACCIONI-AZZATTI and Jose PARDO Michelle THOMPSON and Brigitte HILBIG (to confirm) Ivan CA-ETE and Oscar IRIBARNE If you have planned to take part in the excursion and your name is NOT included, please warn me as soon as possible. If you have not planned to take part in the excursion and your name IS included, please warn me as soon as possible. I will not be able to plan individual trips. At the best, I can send you useful touristic information, but I will not be able to contact any further travel agencies, hotels, and so on. I will definetely need your final confirmations (including flight reservations) NOT LATER than May 15 (and preferably much earlier than that). No exceptions will be accepted, and this deadend schedule will not be postponed. After that, I will be completely unable to carry out any further arrangements concerning the postconference excursions, because all my energy will be directed towards the scientific agenda of the meeting itself. PLEASE NOTICE THAT MANY OF YOU (NORTH-AMERICAN, CANADIAN, CHINESE, AUSTRALIAN, MEXICAN, JAPANESE CITIZENS) WILL NEED A VALID BRAZILIAN VISA (AND MAYBE AN ARGENTINEAN ONE). PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO CONTACT YOUR LOCAL BRAZILIAN AND ARGENTINEAN EMBASSIES OR CONSULATES TO CHECK THIS. A YELLOW-FEVER CERTIFICATE IS REQUIRED TO VISIT THE AMAZONIAN REGION. YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY TO MANAUS IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE. Please reply directly to me and not to the Annelida list (do not use the reply-to function in your e-mail application). I really hope to get prompt replies from you. Be sure all of you will have a most wonderful time in Brazil. Looking forward to hearing from you soon, I send all my best regards, Paulo Lana -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed May 13 17:21:41 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id RAA16502 Message-Id: <199805140021.RAA16502@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Paulo da Cunha Lana" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Polychaete conference - credit cards Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:46:08 -0300 Subject: Sixth International Polychaete Conference [please reply directly to lana@aica.cem.ufpr.br, or by fax to + 55 41 4551105] Dear colleagues, Up to now, none of your credit cards has been charged, either to pay the registration fees or any other costs. I am awfully sorry to say that due to a number of reasons, including a general strike in all Brazilian federal universities which has paralised most of their financial bureaucracy, it will be impossible to charge them even in the next 20-30 days. I have also noticed that the validity date of many cards, as presented in your original registration forms, are already over or will be over at this time. I have listed below the names of colleagues who will have to send me a new authorization to charge their cards, with their new number (if this is the case) and validity date. I am really sorry about this. I beg your pardon for the disturbance. Best regards, Paulo Lana New authorizations required to Franklin Carrasco, Chang-Po Chen, Monica Dorigo Correia, Kristian Fauchald, Adrian Glover, Erica Veronica Pardo, Alexandra Rizzo, Leda Maria Santa Isabel, Paul Schroeder, Hilda Sovierzoski, and Edmundo Nonato. -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu May 14 10:52:28 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id KAA15931 Message-Id: <199805141752.KAA15931@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 08:02:49 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: tparker@lacsd.org (Tom Parker) Organization: LACSD Subject: More fixative data Greetings: I have received several emails in response to the earlier fixative note. Here is some additional information scrounged up about this....but would really like to hear from someone with direct experience with "Prefer" as a fixative for worms/inverts. Manufacturer: Anatech. Web site: -From Anatech: "...Prefer is used for light microscopy because of its excellent preservation of cellular detail. It stands to reason that it could very well suit the needs of those requiring gross morphological preservation. Soft tissues would not become brittle, as this is an advantage of Prefer over formalin. Also, pigmentation and/or coloration patterns would probably be maintained." A gallon of concentrate (used to mix up 5 gallons of useable fixative) appears to cost a little under 40 US dollars. bye for now Tom Parker tparker@lacsd.org -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu May 14 14:55:21 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA18649 Message-Id: <199805142155.OAA18649@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:05:47 -0600 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: salazar@nicte-ha.ecosur-qroo.mx (Sergio Salazar Vallejo) Subject: Odontosyllis and Columbus Dear Colleagues, You might find interesting a detailed set of observations and notice linking swarming Odontosyllis enopla with the mysterious lights seen by Columbus: Crawshay LR 1935 Possible bearing of a luminous syllid on the question of the landfall of Columbus. Nature 136:559-560 (Oct. 5th, 1935). Another possibility, if those sightings were closer to Caribbean localities, is the swarming of Odontosyllis luminosa San Martin 1990. The paper is: San Martin G 1990 Eusyllinae (Syllidae, Polychaeta) from Cuba and Gulf of Mexico. Bulletin of Marine Science 46:590-619 Best wishes, Sergio La Ciencia del Tercer Mundo no esta perdida, sino ignorada. Third World Science is not lost (Sci. Amer. Aug. 1995:76), just ignored. Sergio I. Salazar-Vallejo Depto. Ecologia Acuatica ECOSUR, Apdo. Postal 424 Chetumal QR 77000 MEXICO salazar@ecosur-qroo.mx www.ecosur.mx Tel. (983) 20115, 21666 Fax (983) 20447 http://www.ecosur.mx -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri May 15 03:35:37 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id DAA05234 Message-Id: <199805151035.DAA05234@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:09:52 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Pierre CHEVALDONNE Subject: Marine Genetics Hi annelidans, For the lucky ones going to Brazil, the following info might be of interest. Pierre Chevaldonne Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 21:01:34 +0200 To: chevaldonne@com.univ-mrs.fr From: solecava@com.univ-mrs.fr (Antonio Sole-Cava) Call for Participation __________________________________________________ International Workshop on Marine Genetics - Rio 98 __________________________________________________ 22 - 25 September, Angra dos Reis, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil home-page - http://www.ufrj.br/eventos/workshop2.htm Topics covered in this Workshop include: .Cytogenetics of marine organisms .Fisheries genetics .Genetics and pollution .Genetics and aquaculture .Marine biotechnology .Molecular biology of marine invertebrates .Molecular systematics of marine organisms .Population structuring and gene flow The following invited speakers have confirmed their participation at the Workshop: Dr. John Avise (Univ. Georgia, USA) Dr. Nicole Boury-Esnault (Univ. Marseilles, France) Dr. Gary Carvalho (Univ. Hull, England) Dr. Fernando D'Incao (Fund. Univ. Rio Grande, Brazil) Dr. Dave Dixon (Univ. Southampton, England) Dr. Fausto Foresti (Univ. Sao Paulo, Brazil) Dr. Pedro Galetti (Univ. Sao Paulo, Brazil) Dr. Manuel Haimovich (Fund. Univ. Rio Grande, Brazil) Dr. Nancy Knowlton (Smithsonian Institution, USA) Dr. Armand Sanches (Univ. Barcelona, Spain) Dr. Dave Skibinski (Univ. Swansea, Wales) Dr. John Thorpe (Univ. Liverpool, England) Dr. Anna Vazzoler (Univ. Sao Paulo, Brazil) and representatives of the main Brazilian Government bodies of science support (CNPq, MCT, FAPERJ, FINEP), and from the fishing and aquaculture industries. For further information Claudia A. M. Russo Lab. Biodiversidade Molecular - Departamento de Genetica - Instituto de Biologia Bloco A - CCS - Ilha do Fundao 21941-490 - Rio de Janeiro - RJ Brazil e-mail - russo@acd.ufrj.br or visit the Workshop homepage at http://www.ufrj.br/eventos/workshop2.htm Pierre Chevaldonne CNRS - UMR DIMAR, Station Marine d'Endoume Centre d'Oceanologie de Marseille Rue de la Batterie des Lions 13007 Marseille, France Tel: 33 4 91 04 16 59 Fax: 33 4 91 04 16 35 E-mail: chevaldonne@com.univ-mrs.fr Web: http://www.com.univ-mrs.fr -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 19 02:21:55 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id CAA20809 Message-Id: <199805190921.CAA20809@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:03:40 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Harry A. ten Hove" Subject: Re: Palmar and palmate membranes >Dear Sabellida workers, > >In front of me I have the Nelson-Smith OECD booklet on fouling serpulids >open at figure one. Please tell me that the strange asymmetric palmar >membrane illustrated is a misinterpretation of McIntosh's lithograph (on >opposite page) and that 'palmar membrane' is merely an (incorrect?) term >for fusion or webbing of the radiole edges. > >Palmate membrane in sabellids seems to be a more established term. Would I >be right in thinking this would only be used (if it still is) when there is >actually webbing present, rather than fusion of radiole edges? > >Finally I would like suggestions as to the owner & nature of the >structure illustrated in fig 67 of 'the pink book.' What is it do you >think? >-- > Geoff Read Two years ago, in the course of finalizing a manuscript (which still is not finalized completely), I started a discussion on sabellida terminology with 11 or 12 sabellida workers. Unfortunately never found the time to update my efforts with the comments received from some colleagues. The entire discussion runs to about 8 or 9 pages, and was not meant to become public in the raw form, I still have/want to edit these things, and then we will go public. That moment, however, may last another year or so, so if someone with access to the complete discussion will take over, please go ahead. The introduction, and the relevant parts on the topic you are stirring up, are pasted below. _________ (ten Hove's intro of 2 years ago) With several of you I have to some extent discussed the problem of non-consistent terminology in papers on Sabellida, leading to difficulties when comparing descriptions, for instance when preparing a data-matrix for cladistical analysis. I have addressed this problem a couple of times, and in a more formal way for the opercula of Hydroides (in a paper in Beaufortia 41, 16: 115-120, which most of you will have. If not, I still have a few copies left). I have tried to be consistent myself, by using a "standard description", but even then occasionally have to be called to order by one of you, acting as a reviewer or as co-author. It will remain to be a very difficult job (old habits die hard), needing constant alertness and checks against an agreed terminology [and if not agreed, at least against earlier papers by oneself]. It is far from me to think of imposing a rigid scheme (apart from the fact that I couldn't if I would), but it would be nice if we could agree on some general terms and or principles. (ten Hove's proposal was) Basal web: preferred term: Interradiolar membrane. Branchial membrane: preferred term: Interradiolar membrane. Interbranchial membrane: preferred term: Interradiolar membrane. Interradiolar membrane: thin membrane connecting basal parts of radioles in some Sabellida. Palmate membrane: preferred term: Interradiolar membrane. Radiolar web(bing): see Interradiolar membrane. (Phyllis Knight-Jones' comment was) BRANCHIAL MEMBRANE: Radiolar or interradiolar web is best PALMATE MEMBRANE: Radiolar or interradiolar web preferred. [One never says that duck's feet have palmate or interdigital membranes!] _______ As you can see, still not a complete agreement. If I recall correctly (my notes on this matter are at home right now), Gottfried Pillai quite correctly pointed out that it was an "interradiolar" position of the membrane rather than a "radiolar". My reluctance to use the term "web", perfectly acceptable in the English language, may be caused by the fact that this particular word in Dutch (and mutatis mutandis in the German Webe) only is associated with the spider's web, and not with (swimming) web or with (wingmembrane) web. Now to your question "that 'palmar membrane' is merely an (incorrect?) term for fusion or webbing of the radiole edges": the end of the arrow (line) in Nelson-Smith's diagram is at the base of the branchial crown where all radioles are still completely fused. If an interradiolar membrane were present in this figure, it should be 4-14 mm higher up in the figure (to the top af the page), to be exact the area just below the first bent over radiole. "as to the owner & nature of the structure illustrated in fig 67 of 'the pink book.'", you should ask Kristian directly. Personally I have thoughts of branchiae of "errantiate" worms. wormly Harry A. ten Hove Institute for Systematics and Population Biology Zoological Museum, University of Amsterdam POB 94766, 1090 GT AMSTERDAM TEL. 3120 5256906 FAX. 3120 5255402 -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 19 19:47:14 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id TAA14406 Message-Id: <199805200247.TAA14406@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:15:30 +1100 Subject: Re: Palmar and palmate membranes Harry ten Hove wrote: > ... Palmate membrane: preferred term: Interradiolar > membrane. Radiolar web(bing): see Interradiolar membrane. etc. Good. Thanks Harry. Looking into the antecedents of 'palmate' indicates the human 'palm' as the stem for all other usages. As palm tree is one such I would be wary of calling a structure palmate when really palm-tree-like was meant. This might be the case for the sabellid radioles. The botanists, who have lots of useful words at their finger tips, seem to use the term for the specific case of _five_ lobes not completely divided. It has also been suggested the object represented for 'palmate' in the pink book could be a sigalionid elytral margin papilla. -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed May 20 14:58:24 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA29679 Message-Id: <199805202158.OAA29679@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 06:24:46 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Millard C. Davis" Subject: Re: Palmar and palmate membranes Geoff Read wrote: > Looking into the antecedents of 'palmate' indicates the human 'palm' as the > stem for all other usages. As palm tree is one such I would be wary of > calling a structure palmate when really palm-tree-like was meant. This > might be the case for the sabellid radioles. The botanists, who have lots > of useful words at their finger tips, seem to use the term for the specific > case of _five_ lobes not completely divided. The Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Trees defines palmate as "With leaflets attached directly to the end of the leafstalk and not arranged in rows along an axis." Palmate-veined leaves as "With the principal veins arising from the end of the leafstalk and radiating toward the edge of the leaf, and not branching from a single midvein." College Botany, by Fuller and Tippo, (which I used at Cornell University) calls palmately veined ""a type of net venation in which the main veins of a leaf blade branch out from the apex of the petiole like the fingers of a hand." So skip the five fingers and think of the main veins, however many, as stemming mutually from the hand's union with the wrist. Millard C. Davis -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed May 20 16:01:44 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id QAA08939 Message-Id: <199805202301.QAA08939@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:43:20 +1100 Subject: Re: Palmar and palmate membranes > So skip the five fingers and think of the main > veins, however many, as stemming mutually from the hand's union with the > wrist. My authority was William T Stearn's 'Botanical Latin,' which I believe probably outranks Millard's authorities. :-) Yes, there will be many less precise definitions out there based around a theme of lobes from a central point. But my palm has only five appendages. -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri May 22 14:33:07 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA20854 Message-Id: <199805222133.OAA20854@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:42:56 -0700 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: tparker@lacsd.org (Tom Parker) Organization: LACSD Subject: Re: Palmar and palmate Geoff Read wrote: >[Millard Davis wrote] > > So skip the five fingers and think of the main > > veins, however many, as stemming mutually from the hand's union with the > > wrist. > > My authority was William T Stearn's 'Botanical Latin,' which I believe > probably outranks Millard's authorities. :-) Greetings: - From Jaeger's Biological Names and Terms: Latin: palma= the palm of the hand, sometimes in the sense of broad as in palmipes for broad footed; palmatus, marked like the palm of the hand; palmaris, pertaining to the palm of the hand. Examples: Palmasterias and Palmacystes (Echinoderms). However in Greek: palmos= a quivering motion, pulsation. Examples Palmaella, palmiste for a palm dweller, Palmista (a mammal). bye for now, Tom Parker tparker@lacsd.org -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Sat May 23 12:10:11 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id MAA19340 Message-Id: <199805231910.MAA19340@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "J.W.Qiu" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Document en francais Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:40:43 -0700 Hello! annelidans, This is to ask for assistance with a paper in French. The library of HKUST has not been able to obtain the following paper for me from interlibrary loan through an international library network called OCLC. I was also told that the issue of the magazine is not held in the Institut de L'Information Scientific et Technique (France?). Gravier, Charles (1899) Contribution a l'etude des annelides polychetes de la mer rouge. Bulletin Mus. Hist. Nat., Paris, v.5, p. 234-244. Your advice on the locality (person) from which (whom) I may get a copy of the paper would be much appreciated. Salutations! Jian-Wen --- Jian-Wen Qiu Department of Biology The Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Clear Water Bay, Kowloon, Hong Kong Phone: (852)23587336 Fax: (852)23351477 E-mail: bojwqiu@ust.hk -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Mon May 25 02:03:15 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id CAA14996 Message-Id: <199805250903.CAA14996@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:51:35 +0200 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Joao Gil Subject: Spanish Tel. & Fax Numbers Hello! I just take you the time to tell you the changes in Spanish telephone and fax numbers. Now, if you're calling from abroad, after the International Code for Spain <34> you have to put <9>, followed by the rest of the number. If you're calling inside Spain, you will have to put always the regional code. Ex.: If you want to send us a nice fax from outside Spain: before: 34 - 72 - 33.78.06 now: 34 - 972 - 33.78.06 If you're in Spain: 972 - 33.78.06, wherever you are. Thank you and greetings from Blanes! Joao Gil ******************************************* Joao Gil Centre d'Estudis Avancats de Blanes Cami de Santa Barbara, s/n E-17300 BLANES (GIRONA), SPAIN Telef.: 34-972-33.61.01 Fax: 34-972-33.78.06 -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 26 14:37:25 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA12903 Message-Id: <199805262137.OAA12903@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Aaron Bartholomew Subject: ?Unnamed? Polynoidae Hello all, I am attempting to construct a key to the polychaetes of Virginia, and I was wondering if anyone knew the name and other references with the description for a polynoidae species we have. It is described in the "taxonomic guide to the polychaetes of the northern gulf of mexico" vol. III, pg 21-20, and named "Malmgreniella sp. A". In the description, Dr. Weston stated that Dr. Pettibone was currently describing this species, but I have not come across any reference. The specimens I've looked at have 14 elytrae and 31 setigers.It is commensal with the brittle star Micropholis atra. If anyone knows the name of this species and any reference for it I would be most grateful- Thanks a lot, Aaron Aaron Bartholomew -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Tue May 26 14:41:36 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id OAA13322 Message-Id: <199805262141.OAA13322@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Paulo da Cunha Lana" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: Polychaete conference abstracts Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:17:09 -0300 Dear colleagues, This is just to make you know that all the abstracts submitted to the Organising Committee have been accepted. Some of them are currently being edited by colleagues who have English as their native language. We will be pleased to send a letter of invitation, together with a formal statement of paper acceptance, on the understanding that such a letter will help potential participants to raise funds, or obtain a visa. It will not be a commitment on our part to provide financial support, unless formally indicated. You may request an invitation letter directly from Paulo Lana (lana@aica.cem.ufpr.br). Best wishes, Paulo Lana -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Wed May 27 18:42:11 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id SAA28245 Message-Id: <199805280142.SAA28245@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Geoff Read" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Organization: NIWA (Nat. Inst. Water & Atmos. Research) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:21:36 +1100 Subject: Re: ?Unnamed? Polynoidae Due to a blockage at Bionet this message was delayed a day, and I didn't even think about answering yesterday until the query had been circulating half a day for Annelidans to look at. If anyone else replied to this straightforward question be aware that I have not yet received any other messages for the list. I'll add that in normal circumstances it helps if replies are sent to this list, or to both list and question originator. That way only one person expends their time preparing an answer - rather than several. > "Malmgreniella sp. A". In the description, Dr. > Weston stated that Dr. Pettibone was currently describing this species, > but I have not come across any reference. Malmgreniella sp. A. became M. taylori Pettibone, 1993. p42-45 in: Pettibone,Marian H (1993): Scaled polychaetes (Polynoidae) associated with ophiuroids and other invertebrates and review of species referred to Malmgrenia McIntosh and replaced by Malmgreniella Hartman, with descriptions of new taxa. Smithson. Contrib. Zool. 538, 1-92. -- Geoff Read -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Thu May 28 15:14:11 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id PAA28718 Message-Id: <199805282214.PAA28718@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net From: "Paulo da Cunha Lana" Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net Subject: E-mail address of Laverde-Castillo Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:23:41 -0300 Dear annelidans, Does anybody know the e-mail address of Juan Laverde-Castillo, from Colombia? I ve been trying to contact him through unijotalo@caribenet.net.co, without success. Thanks in advance, Paulo Lana lana@aica.cem.ufpr.br -- ANNELIDA LIST Discuss = = talk to all members Server = = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri May 29 03:09:51 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id DAA17978 Message-Id: <199805291009.DAA17978@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:22:13 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Daniel.Desbruyeres@ifremer.fr (Daniel DESBRUYERES) Subject: Who is in charge at USNM ? I am looking for the name and e.mail adress of the present Museum specialist in charge of the worm collection at Smithsoniam (USNM) for deposition of an holotype. Is anybody able to help me ? Daniel. Daniel Desbruyeres Departement Environnement Profond Centre de Brest de l IFREMER BP 70, 29280 Plouzane Cedex France Tel : 33 98 22 43 01 Secretariat Tel : 33 98 22 43 04 Fax : 98 22 47 57, 98 22 45 47 ou 98 22 46 53 Daniel.Desbruyeres@ifremer.fr -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri May 29 12:36:03 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id MAA24736 Message-Id: <199805291936.MAA24736@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:48:57 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Linda Ward Subject: Re: Who is in charge at USNM ? Dear Daniel, Loans and accessioning of incoming material are now being handled centrally in our department. Our collection manager is Cheryl Bright (Bright.Cheryl@nmnh.si.edu). She can be reached at the same mailing address as Kristian or me. Cheryl is the one to contact if you have any questions about depositing material. Loan requests may be sent to her, Kristian, or me. I am usually the one who pulls the specimens from the collection and forwards them to the processing team for shipment. Sincerely yours, Linda Ward Museum Specialist, Worms Dept. of Invertebrate Zoology MRC 163 Museum of Natural History Smithsonian Institution Washington, DC 20560 -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html -- From daemon Fri May 29 16:40:59 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12-r-beta/8.6.6) id QAA24916 Message-Id: <199805292340.QAA24916@net.bio.net> To: annelida@net.bio.net Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 15:54:58 -0400 Reply-To: annelida@net.bio.net From: Edwin Niklitschek Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Subject: Polychaetes culture I am a Ph.D student doing my dissertation on bioenergetics and trophic ecology of sturgeons. I would really appreciate any advice about the easiest way to start an experimental polychaeta culture. I am mostly looking for information about worm providers of fast growing, medium size species, ideally Sedentaria. My lab is located in maryland (USA) and main water conditions at the lab correspond to estuarine waters (6-12 ppt, 20oC). Thanks in advance, Edwin Niklitschek Chesapeake Biological Laboratory niklitsc@cbl.umces.edu -- ANNELIDA Discuss = annelida@net.bio.net = talk to all members Server = biosci-server@net.bio.net = un/subscribes Archives = http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/ANNELIDA/ Resources = http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~worms/annelid.html --