From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Jul 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Richard Durbin)
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Subject: Re: Renaming in acedb
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You can either rename in a .ace file

-R Classname Oldname Newname

or using the Add/Alias/Rename tool accessible from the main window
menu (for which you need Write Access).

Richard

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From: buia@soda.berkeley.edu (Alex Bui)
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     Hello! I'm new to this newsgroup and to AceDB, so it's
quite possible that my question has an easy answer (I hope so).
Looking at the code for AceDB, I haven't found an easy way
to actually rename an instance of an object that's already in
the database.  That is, if an object has already been put
into the database, is it possible to readily rename its key?
Obviously, this brings up a lot of problems with regards
to links in the object-oriented hierarchy and xrefs.  But
is there an easy way to do this rename? Any ideas would
be appreciated.  Thanks!

					Alex Bui
					UC Berkeley

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From: anderson@pharmdec.wustl.edu (eric c. anderson)
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just a test...sorry for wasting the bandwidth

-- 
a simple proposal for a more livable usa:
let's ban all guns and personal automobiles...
think about it, 
when was the last time you heard of a bike-by stabbing?

just a suggestion

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314-362-7058 (fax)
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washington university school of medicine
st. loser, misery  63110

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Jul 10 23:00:00 1994
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From: buia@soda.berkeley.edu (Alex Bui)
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     Hello again! Thanks for all the responsees about
renaming in ACeDB...I have another related question,
however.  I am actually working with the ACeDB code,
and want to do an object rename while in the middle
of processing something.  To that end, I can actually
output a file with the "-R <object>:<old name> <new name>"
line...but what *code* inside of the program do I
call to do a parse of this file? I would assume
it would be come in parse.c or bssubs.c, but I'm not sure.
What I would like to do is be able to pass on a file handle
or filename, and have the system parse the line.

     I've also tired sending the -R line directly 
through to parseBuffer...but I'm not sure that this is
right.  Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

					Alex Bui
					UC Berkeley

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Jul 10 23:00:00 1994
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From: vwarwar@unlinfo.unl.edu (vitor warwar)
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Subject: PAM and BLOSUM
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Hi:

     Does anyone now where I can find, in computer readble form,
PAM and BLOSUM tables?

     Thanks,

     Vitor Warwar

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Jul 10 23:00:00 1994
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Software for genome mapping by fingerprinting techniques
--------------------------------------------------------

What it is 
-----------

A genome mapping package has been developed for reading and
assembling data from clones analysed by restriction enzyme
fragmentation and polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis. The
package comprises: data entry; matching; assembly; statistical
analysis; modelling. The Data is entered by a scanning and image
processing system, called IMAGE. The primary emphasis in the
analytical routines is on flexibility and interactive convenience, so
that the operator has full knowledge of and control over the
growing map, but a variety of automatic options are included. The
package continually grows to meet the needs of the Caenorhabditis
project. 

This software is the UNIX port of the CONTIG9 software package,
which was running on VAX/VMS only.
The Software announced here will run on a wide variety of
UNIX platforms, such as SUN-Sparc, SGI-Irix .
Binaries are provided for 

Where to find it
-----------------

The package is called ContigC and is available via
anonymous ftp on :
ftp.sanger.ac.uk:/pub/contigc/

You'll also find directories with precompiled binaries
and documentation files in HTML format (Mosaic browsable).

How to use it
--------------

(1) On-line documentation

A documentation is available on the InterNet. You have to use
Mosaic to browse the hypertext document.
Mosaic is available via anonymous ftp from :
ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu:/Web/
src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/public/computing/information-systems/WWW/ncsa/

Type the following URL in the text window that comes up after
pressing 'o'-key in the Mosaic Window:
URL = "http://www.sanger.ac.uk/~fw/contigc.html"

This document will explain exactly, what the software does and how.


(2) locally installed Mosaic documents

For people with a slow InterNet connection to our server
there is a tarred archive of all HTML files and images,
which can be installed locally. This is on :
ftp.sanger.ac.uk:/pub/contigc/Doc-html/ContigC+IMAGE-HTML-doc.tar
(the file to start with is "index.html")

(3) documents ready to print in postscript

I created three postscript files from the HTML files. They are on :
ftp.sanger.ac.uk:/pub/contigc/Doc-postscript/*.ps

(4) pure text files without images

If neither Mosaic nor postscript programmes are available, pure
text files can be viewed in any ASCII editor. They're on :
ftp.sanger.ac.uk:/pub/contigc/Doc-text/*.txt


How to install it
------------------

I tried to make the installation as simple as possible.
A shell script reads the system configuration, calls
the make files and installs the programs after a successful
compilation. Type :

%  install

to start building the software.
It will then compile graphic-libraries, the image analysis
software and the database programs.




Note.:

 This is my last day at the Sanger Centre,
 I won't be available to answer questions or fix bugs
 until october, when I'll be at University.


------------------------------------------------------------
                  Friedemann Wobus

Email:    fw@sanger.ac.uk
WWW:      http://www.sanger.ac.uk/~fw

   The Sanger Centre       Tel:      +44 (0)223 834244
 Hinxton Hall, Hinxton     Fax:      +44 (0)223 494919
  Cambridge CB10 1RQ       WWW:      http://www.sanger.ac.uk

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Jul 11 23:00:00 1994
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From: tjhuang@liverpool.ac.uk (Mr T.J. Huang)
Subject: Help with information of Evergreen technology
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Dear All,

Do any of you know a software company -- Evergreen Technologies, which 
has some software for conversion of medical images.  If you have any
information, please, please give me an email.  Any information will be 
greatly appreciated.  


With best regards,
Terrance,
tjhuang@liverpool.ac.uk




From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Jul 13 23:00:00 1994
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From: tim@megasun.BCH.UMontreal.CA (Tim Littlejohn)
Subject: Re: PAM and BLOSUM
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In article <2vsd3t$iik@crcnis1.unl.edu> vwarwar@unlinfo.unl.edu (vitor warwar) writes:
>Hi:
>
>     Does anyone now where I can find, in computer readble form,
>PAM and BLOSUM tables?

These can be obtained at NCBI's ftp site:

	anonymous FTP to ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For the blosum tables, look in the directory /repository/blocks/unix/blosum
For the PAM matricies, there is a program called "pam" which will generate the
tables for you (get pam.c and compile).  This can be found in
/pub/blast/1.4d/explode/blastapp (there are also some PAM tables already
generated; look in the matrix subdirectory).

Tim Littlejohn

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Jul 14 23:00:00 1994
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From: mps2@bio6.acpub.duke.edu (Maulin Piyush Shah)
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Subject: Surpressing a tag
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	Is there any way to have a tag, but to surppress its appearance? For
example, I have utilizzed many of the subclass features in ACE 3.0, but to do so
I need a filter tag. What I would LIKE is if I can surpress this tag so the user
won't see it, but still exist so that it will sort the class into its subclasses.
Any ideas?		
				
				Thanks,
			
					Maulin Shah
					mps2@acpub.duke.edu
					DCMB Duke University
					Duke Engineering '96

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Jul 17 23:00:00 1994
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From: mps2@bio6.acpub.duke.edu (Maulin Piyush Shah)
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Subject: Sharp classes
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I am trying to make a sharp class #date. This will appear after all my
comments and most text entries where it is relevant. I have designed it
as follows:

	?date	Date Text

This is not complicated at all. Now in my Model where it is used it
looks something like:
	
	Comment	Text	#date

And finally, in my ace file it looks like:


Comment "I can't figure this out!!!" Date "7/94"

The problem is that when I read this into the DB, I get "Unknown tag
7/94" What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help in advance.
	
					Maulin

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From: mps2@bio6.acpub.duke.edu (Maulin Piyush Shah)
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Subject: Sorry
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Sorry people. I figured out my problem. Its a long story. In any case, please
disregard the last message. Thanks. 

				Maulin

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Jul 19 23:00:00 1994
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From: eddy@eddy.gen.cam.ac.uk (Edward Welbourne)
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Subject: Re: Window size
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To: mps2@bio6.acpub.duke.edu (Maulin Piyush Shah)
In-reply-to: mps2@bio6.acpub.duke.edu's message of 20 Jul 1994 15:28:57 GMT

In article <30jfrp$l9j@news.duke.edu> mps2@bio6.acpub.duke.edu (Maulin Piyush Shah) writes:
> Is there any way I can change the default window sizes? Is it a change
> in the kernel or can I do it by changing some parameters somewhere?

The place for the change is in displays.wrm; see the documentation comment
with which this begins.  You can specify a separate window-size for each
class; it's a parameter change, not a kernel change (happily).

Good luck,

	Eddy.
--
				...   Few indeed are those who, travelling
it, have crossed the dark and yawning Abyss of Implementation to Delivery.
Many, yea, many in truth stagnate yet in the Desert of Delay, or linger ever
in the ghastly limbo called Perpetual Beta.	(from the LOGINATAKA)

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Jul 19 23:00:00 1994
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From: mps2@bio6.acpub.duke.edu (Maulin Piyush Shah)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Its me again: Text Search
Date: 20 Jul 1994 19:53:59 GMT
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For some reason, when I do a text search, I get into some really strange trouble.
First of all, each object is shifted. For example, if my list is:
		
		ac-21
		ac-22
		ac-23

I get ac-22 by clicking on ac-21, ac-23 by clicking on ac-22, etc.

Second, in most cases, many of the objects that are listed have absolutely
nothing to do with the search. Huh?


		HELP!!
			
				Maulin

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From: mps2@bio6.acpub.duke.edu (Maulin Piyush Shah)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Window size
Date: 20 Jul 1994 15:28:57 GMT
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Is there any way I can change the default window sizes? Is it a change in the
kernel or can I do it by changing some parameters somewhere? Thanks.

		Maulin

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Jul 20 23:00:00 1994
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From: staffan@biochem.kth.se (Staffan Bergh)
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Subject: AboutDB
Date: 21 Jul 1994 15:00:01 +0200
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AboutDB, the ACEDB database database (deliberate doubling :-) is now on
the 'web:

  http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/AboutDB/AboutDB.html

Background and guiding ideas:
  AboutDB was conceived and provisionally implemented during the
recently finished Ace94 workshop in St Mathieu de Treviers, outside of
Montpellier, France. AboutDB collects information on all aspects of
the developement and use of the database manager ACEDB, such as:
 people and organizations using it or implementing software for it,
 databases implemented in it,
 bug reports,
 projects involving the database manager,
 documentation,
 tools for the user, curator, or programmer,
 features within the program and
 tips and tricks of its use.
AboutDB is implemented in ACEDB (what else) and it is aimed at people
with at least some experience of ACEDB, such as programmers, curators
and advanced users.

The data is the same as it was July 15, when the workshop finished,
and thus not really curated yet. I will try to update some of the
information over the next few weeks. During this time the data and
probably the models will change daily ...

There is a very simple form for submitting data to the database. This
will also be enhanced in the near future.

If you have any comments, questions, gripes, ideas about the database,
if you have data sets or corrections to data that should be in the
database, or if you want to volunteer to take on some of the curation
(please!), do not hesitate to contact me.

/staffan

Staffan Bergh
Biochemistry, KTH, S-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden

email: staffan@biochem.kth.se           + Don't let that horse eat that violin
phone: int+46 8 790 8758                +               cried Chagall's mother
fax: int+46 8 24 54 52                  + but he kept right on painting
                                        +             -- Lawrence Ferlinghetti



From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Jul 24 23:00:00 1994
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From: bks@s27w007.pswfs.gov (Bradley K. Sherman)
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Subject: ACEDB curators/developers: Contribute to FAQ
Date: 25 Jul 1994 17:55:05 GMT
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All curators and developers of ACEDB projects are encouraged
to contribute a paragraph describing their work to the
Frequently Asked Questions document.

You do not have to have a database ready for release or even
in local use.  Here's a sample entry:
    Database : Orcdb
    Species : Homo troglodytus 
    Availability : Under development
    Curator : Bilbo Baggins
    Contact : bbaggins@shire.middle-earth.com

You can add any tags or data that you like. The FAQ is updated
monthly, and you can resubmit a paragraph as often as you like.
The next FAQ will be prepared in the first week of August.

If you have multiple databases, feel free to submit a paragraph
for each.

Send it to:
    acedbfaq@s27w007.pswfs.gov
(It's okay if you just reply to this message.)

You can retrieve the current FAQ from
    net.bio.net as pub/BIOSCI/ACEDB/ACEDB.FAQ
or
    rtfm.mit.edu as pub/usenet/news.answers/acedb-faq
and other fine anonymous ftp repositories.
Also available as hypermedia on the World-Wide Web as
   http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/acedbfaq.html

    --bks

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Jul 25 23:00:00 1994
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From: mps2@bio6.acpub.duke.edu (Maulin Piyush Shah)
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Subject: link missing in bsTreeBreakComment
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Has any one ever had this error message when trying to make a Dump?

!! FATAL ERROR 0: !! link missing in bsTreeBreakComment


If so, please let me know what I am doing wrong. Thanks.

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Jul 25 23:00:00 1994
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This looks like a defect in the binary database.  For some reason you
can not store a very long piece of text (data type Text, not class
?Text) that had to be split across multiple disk blocks.  I have not
seen this crash before.  I just looked at the code and can't see the
problem.

It seems that this code can only be called when storing an edited
object, if you have write access.  Did you edit some objects before
doing the dump?  Do you get the crash if you dump without write
access?  Do you get the crash if you try to save without dumping?  Can
you produce an ace file with a minimal example that you can read into
an empty database and provoked the crash?  If so please send it to me
and/or Jean.

If you can find out which object is being saved when the crash occurs
then you can create a keyset containing that object, and with write
access save it in the database as a named keyset with name
"DoNotDump".  Any objects in that keyset will be skipped when dumping.

Richard

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Jul 27 23:00:00 1994
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From: dok421@mbp-sun1.dkfz-heidelberg.de (Jonathan Karges)
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Subject: window scrolling
Date: 28 Jul 1994 16:14:38 GMT
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When I scroll an object in a window and then click on the update entry
of the window's menu, the top of the object is displayed again.

I think, for large objects it's more convenient not to change the
displayed range of the object too much. Otherwise, the position to be
updated has to be searched again. (Of course, I know that the original
displayed range doesn't fit any more exactly because of the additional
tag name displaying.)

Jonathan


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Jul 28 23:00:00 1994
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From: dok421@mbp-sun1.dkfz-heidelberg.de (Jonathan Karges)
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Subject: Bnew node : block overflow
Date: 29 Jul 1994 11:56:27 GMT
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Did anybody of you ever recognize the following error message when
clicking on the "save" entry of an object window (after some
interactive updates of the object)?

!! FATAL ERROR 0: !! Bnew node : block overflow
!! FATAL ERROR 0: !! Double pinning of <object_name>

I think it's no problem of the cachesize. My cachesize.wrm has
the following entries:


CACHE1 = 8000     // Size of first cache, as used in w5/blocksubs.c
CACHE2 = 2000     // Size of second cache, as used in w5/objcache.c
DISK =    200     // Initial size of database on disk at creation


The dump size of the specific object that dued to this behaviour is
arround 20kBytes. It has about 60 references and many text-class
values.

After rebuilding the database from ace dumps, the problem didn't occur
after repeated updates on that object.

Jonathan

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Jul 28 23:00:00 1994
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From: bks@s27w007.pswfs.gov (Bradley K. Sherman)
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In article <9407292033.AA09442@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu> matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews") writes:
> ...
>I assume a lot of exciting things happened at the Montpellier workshop.  And
>that somebody's planning to report it to the rest of us.  Hope so, we're 
>waiting with bated breath.
> ...

Just to get the ball rolling here is what I felt were the highlights:

   *  Jean & Richard are planning on returning ACEDB to a single
      core distribution.

   *  The ACEDB kernel will be a database manager and a set of
      display primitives (a layer on top of X11).  "Approved"
      special purpose displays will be built on top of this
      kernel.  Developers should avoid bypassing the kernel
      primitives so as to maximize portability.

      In this way, the two lower levels (database + display primitives)
      constitute ACEDB.  Non-text displays are allowed to be
      idiosyncratic.

   *  Otto Ritter's group announced a way to use ACEDB on top of
      Sybase, such that ACEDB calls result in data fetched directly
      from SYBASE.  

   *  Jaime Prilusky, while at the workshop, produced a demonstration
      mechanism for calling Mosaic from ACEDB as a help mechanism.
      I believe that Jean is laboring mightily to get this into
      the next distribution.

   *  Sam Cartinhour, John Morris, Steffan Bergh and John McCarthy
      have captured the list of "magic tags".  These are tags that,
      if included in the models.wrm file, have special meanings in
      the context of ACEDB displays.

   *  Steffan Bergh created AboutDB; an ACEDB about ACEDB

I am sure that I am slighting the efforts of many participants
here and misrepresenting the efforts of others.  My brain does
not function well at the average temperature of a Montpellier
summer. Others should feel free to correct me.

    --bks

-- 
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Jul 28 23:00:00 1994
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From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews")
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Subject: Tablemaker horizontal scrolling?
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I notice in ace3.1.test.source that the Tree windows have horizontal
scrolling now!  This is great.  The Table_Maker doesn't but I sure hope it
will soon, it would be a whole lot more functional.

I assume a lot of exciting things happened at the Montpellier workshop.  And
that somebody's planning to report it to the rest of us.  Hope so, we're 
waiting with bated breath.

- Dave

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Jul 28 23:00:00 1994
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From: dok421@mbp-sun1.dkfz-heidelberg.de (Jonathan Karges)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: crash after updating various objects
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When I am interactively updating several database objects in different
windows and then do a save in the main menu, ACEDB sometimes crashes
in case of big objects with a core dump file filling up all the user
space of my machine (SUN SPARC). (size of cache1 = 8000 blocks, ace
dump size of biggest object: 20kBytes)

Who has any explanation ?


Jonathan

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Fri Jul 29 23:00:00 1994
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From: singh@CS.UNC.EDU (Raj Kumar Singh)
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Subject: BioSCAN Serevr Update
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    o   _____   o     _________________________________________________________
    o            o
     o   ____    o
       o        o     BBBBB               SSSS      CCCC      AA     NN    NN
         o     o      BB   B   *         SS  SS    CC  CC    AAAA    NNN   NN
           o o        BB  BB             SS       CC   CC   AA  AA   NN N  NN
           o  o       BBBBB    i   oo     SSS     CC        AAAAAA   NN NN NN
         o      o     BB  BB  ii  o  o      SS    CC   CC   AA  AA   NN   NNN
        o  ____  o    BB  BB  ii  o  o   SS  SS    CC  CC   AA  AA   NN    NN
       o          o   BBBBB   ii   oo     SSSS      CCCC    AA  AA   NN    NN
       o   _____   o           
       o           o  	    UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA AT CHAPEL HILL
        o   _____  o              Department of Computer Science
         o        o                   bioscan-info@cs.unc.edu

_______________________________________________________________________________

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			* U P D A T E -- 7/29/94  *
			***************************

	o The BioSCAN e-mail server databases have been updated.  The 
	  currently available databases are as follows:

	  		GenBank 	Release-83
			SWISS-PROT 	Release-29
	  		PIR 		Release-41
	  		GenPept 	Release-83

        o BioSCAN (Biological Sequence Comparative Analysis Node) is a 
          computational tool designed for similarity analysis of biological
          sequences.  Its massively parallel computer system performs rapid,
          rigorous, searches of biosequence databases and is compatible with 
          popular software packages such as BLAST and FASTA. 

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          FTP to "ftp.cs.unc.edu" from "/pub/bioscan" directory.  Please 
          send your questions and comments to "bioscan-info@cs.unc.edu".

	o Searches: bioscan@cs.unc.edu, User support: bioscan-info@cs.unc.edu

	o This research was supported in part by NSF under grant MIP-9024585.
	=======================================================================
	Raj K. Singh		singh@cs.unc.edu	 +1 (919) 962-1744
	

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Fri Jul 29 23:00:00 1994
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From: asimmond@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Andrew Simmonds)
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Subject: Help installing ace2 on LINUX
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Is there anyone willing to supply a neophyte UNIX person, having limited 
experience, with a idiot walk through to install ace2 on a LINUX based 
computer.  The documentation and FAQ talk of a binary available for LINUX 
but I have yet been able to find one.  I have tried to compile from the 
source but have had a world of trouble... (it took me two hours to get the 
source file uncompressed).  Any help at all would be appreciated.
Andrew
______________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Simmonds - Department of Genetics - University of Alberta CANADA
ASIMMOND@GPU.SRV.UALBERTA.CA
G216 Biological Sciences Centre
Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA T6G 2E9
******************************************************************************
            "Does steel wool come from magnetic sheep?" 
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sat Jul 30 23:00:00 1994
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From: mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr (Danielle et Jean Thierry-Mieg)
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Subject: code 3.3
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i am making available on ncbi a code release
code.3.3.tar.Z

it incorporates help in mosaic
datetypes
printer control
multidiscs
Gels
vmap
improved multimap(mieg)
pmap as usual
gmap (as altenative display in ace2)
and lots of other goodies

you can compile it by having in the wmake/MACHINE_DEF
either -DACEDB2 or -DACEDB3

there is a known bug on dec alpha: intron/exon widget of genes does not work

it incorporates some of the new code control of Erik
not the multi map of LBL or Arun's display

the tags file is still needed but this will go off in next release
the file disptypes.wrm is completelly changed and no longer read at run time
which eliminates loads of problems

This code is intended for developpers or datbase curators

It also has dna assembly algotrithms and shows the ABI trace files
this is done via some modules off Staden's and Dear's ted system
all gathered in directory wstaden: this file are temporary please do not use them
individually

I will, in a few weeks make a real release with binaries
any bug you find will help me but i won t answer my mail for a couple of weeks

Jean

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sat Jul 30 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews
From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews")
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: ace wizardry
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On Fri Jul 29 18:53:24 1994 Bradley K. Sherman said:
>    *  Sam Cartinhour, John Morris, Steffan Bergh and John McCarthy
>       have captured the list of "magic tags".  These are tags that,
>       if included in the models.wrm file, have special meanings in
>       the context of ACEDB displays.

Great!

On Tue Jul 26 14:40:29 1994 Richard Durbin said:
> If you can find out which object is being saved when the crash occurs
> then you can create a keyset containing that object, and with write
> access save it in the database as a named keyset with name
> "DoNotDump".  Any objects in that keyset will be skipped when dumping.

!!? Magic keyset names?  Are there any others?

How about environment variables, is anybody making a list of these?

- Dave

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Jul 31 23:00:00 1994
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From: staffan@biochem.kth.se (Staffan Bergh)
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In article <9407312128.AA10298@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu>matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews") writes:

>On Fri Jul 29 18:53:24 1994 Bradley K. Sherman said:
<...>
>>       have captured the list of "magic tags".  These are tags that,
<...>
>!!? Magic keyset names?  Are there any others?

DoNotDump and searchedClasses are the only ones as far as I know ...

>How about environment variables, is anybody making a list of these?

The suggestions are duly noted, as ideas for AboutDB classes -- other
things we've thought about are: displays, menu items and buttons.
Anyone have more suggestions?


/staffan

Staffan Bergh
Biochemistry, KTH, S-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden

AboutDB is at URL: "http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/AboutDB.html"
MycDB is at URL: "http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/MycDB.html"

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Jul 31 23:00:00 1994
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Jul 31 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!daresbury!not-for-mail
From: rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Richard Durbin)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: LINUX binary
Date: 1 Aug 1994 16:09:48 +0100
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There is no LINUX binary currently at the ACEDB ftp sites, contrary to the
documentation, which referred to an earlier version 1 binary.

I have recently obtained a linux machine, and compiled a Linux version
myself.  As we will be using this for demos I plan to keep it running and
up to date.  Unfortunately the current code, when compiled, seems to give
arbitrary crashes that I do not understand, so I am not keen to release 
it just now.  I hope to release it soon, and will announce this to the 
newsgroup.

Richard

