From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr (Danielle et Jean Thierry-Mieg)
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Subject: Re:  ace3.3 DEC compil.
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to compile my code 3.3
either have a -DACEDB2 make xace
or
-DACEDB3 make abi not make xace, sorry for this erro
jean

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr (Danielle et Jean Thierry-Mieg)
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Subject: compiling 3.3 code
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This is a correct example of DEF as
included in the 3.3 tar file:



#################################################################
############### acedb: R.Durbin and J.Thierry-Mieg ##############
########### wmake/DEC_ALPHA_DEF    March-18-1993       ##########
#################################################################

#################################################################
########## Machine dependant compiler modification ##############
####### for the DEC-Alpha 3000 model 500 running Unix ###########
#################################################################
########### This file is included by wmake/truemake #############
######  Edit this file to adapt the ACeDB to a new machine ######
#####   following the explanations given in wmake/truemake  #####
#################################################################

NAME = ALPHA
COMPILER = cc -g -std1 -DACEDB3
LINKER = cc -g

LIBS = -lm 

..c.o:
        $(CC) -c $*.c

#################################################################
#################################################################

notice the line -DACEDB3

a similar define is needed for SUN etc
this beeing done you can make:
make xabi
make tace
make aceserver


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

alternativelly use


NAME = ALPHA
COMPILER = cc -O2 -DACEDB2
LINKER = cc

LIBS = -lm 

..c.o:
        $(CC) -c $*.c



%%%%%%%
then you can
make xace
make tace

most probably, but i did not check aceserver/client


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: baillie@beaufort.sfu.ca (Dave Leonard Baillie)
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Subject: Re: Help installing ace2 on LINUX
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Ken Clark has done the port of ace2 to Linux, it runs fine.  I have been
using it on my portable for last month or so.  The binaries should be 
at ncbi site, if not one can pick them up from ftp   trog.mbb.sfu.ca

dave baillie

ps ken said he was doing ace3 also, but I haven't checked to see if he put
it in out anonymous ftp site.


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Detlef Wolf)
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Subject: tace dump whole database?
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is it possbible to dump a whole database non-interactively?
I did not find such a command in tace.
Thanks
Detlef

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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Subject: acedb3.3 reinitialisation bug
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Has anyone noticed the following bug in the new acedb3.3?

The system crashes if an attempt is made to reinitialise it
by removing the database/ACEDB.wrm file only.

!! FATAL ERROR 0: !!  Bad Block Address in partition

Increasing the DISK size in wspec/cachesize.wrm improves
the situation temporarily but only until the next time
ACEDB.wrm is removed. 

Deleting the whole of the database/* directory each time the
system is reinitialised removes the problem as far as I can tell.

Michelle
email:  kirbym@har-rbu.mrc.ac.uk

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From: rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Richard Durbin)
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Subject: Maps in 3.3
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You should be able to compile either a version 2 compatible binary or
a version 3 compatible binary from 3.3.  For version 2 define -DACEDB2
during compilation as in ALPHA_2_DEF, and use GMAP to display maps.
For version 3 define -DACEDB3, make abi, not xace, and use VMAP for
your maps.  i.e.  the version 3 GMAP has been renamed VMAP (vertical
map of any type) to avoid name clashes.  In a future version 4 it is
possible this will become MAP.  As Jean has mailed, there may be some
bugs in the 3.3 display handling -- the aim was to get something out
reflecting the current state after the workshop, not a rock-solid
distribution including all the new developments, which will take some
time.

Richard

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: kirbym@har-rbu.mrc.ac.uk
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Subject: Is acedb3.3 for acedb2 only??
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Is acedb3.3 intended for acedb2 and acedb3 or is it meant to
combine both these codes into a single system?


I compiled acedb3.3 with the -DACEDB3 option but found my existing
models and data (for acedb3) caused a system crash and core dump
when a Map was picked for display.

The w7/gmapdisp.c code appears to find map positions based on
the models used for the acedb2 map display. There is no version
provided for acedb3 models which define positions differently.
That is, maps are generated in acedb3.3 (as in acedb2) with 
     Position  UNIQUE Map ?Map XREF Locus UNIQUE Float UNIQUE Float
rather than the acedb3 definition of
     Location  Map ?Map XREF Locus #map_location

As there are differences between the acedb3 and acedb3.3 versions
of gmapdisp.c this rules out using the older version of the file.

Incidentally this problem has picked up on an existing bug which was:
   If a map is defined (either explicitly or through XREF's)
   but has no data provided, it will cause a system crash when
   that map is selected.

Michelle
email:  kirbym@har-rbu.mrc.ac.uk


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: couloir@u.washington.edu (Chris Abajian)
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Subject: Sequence assembly software under devel?
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Summary: Is there a new sequence assembly program in the offing?
Keywords: sequence assembly

I've been told that Jean Thierry-Mieg (and others) are currently working
on a new sequence assembly program with an X interface that will support
/use acedb files.  True?  Any estimates of time to beta release?

Please email: chrisa@bozeman.mbt.washington.edu


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: kirbym@har-rbu.mrc.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: Maps in 3.3
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Richard says:
>> You should be able to compile either a version 2 compatible binary or
>> a version 3 compatible binary from 3.3.  For version 2 define -DACEDB2
>> during compilation as in ALPHA_2_DEF, and use GMAP to display maps.
>> For version 3 define -DACEDB3, make abi, not xace, and use VMAP for
>> your maps.  i.e.  the version 3 GMAP has been renamed VMAP (vertical
>> map of any type) to avoid name clashes.  In a future version 4 it is
>> possible this will become MAP.  

Having tried "make abi" with the -DACEDB3 compiler option set
and changed the -GMAP flags in the options.wrm file to -VMAP,
it does not make any difference.  It still core dumps.

The problem (at least initially) appears to be some missing 
bsPushObjs where it should be finding the map locations.
Hence, I don't think it does produce a binary that is compatible
with version 3.

If anyone can suggest anything further I will try it.
If not, I shall wait for acedb4. 

Michelle

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Detlef Wolf)
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Subject: summary: tace dump whole database?
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Thanks for all the responses.
The current method of choice is:

> Just write a tace script to dump it class by class.  In fact this is more
> flexible and useful.
> Richard

However, xace has a dump database command which is quite useful,
so I agree only with the first part of Richard's argument.
Detlef


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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Xref: biosci bionet.software:8949 bionet.cellbiol:788 bionet.general:10597 bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts:16997 bionet.software.acedb:370 bionet.software.gcg:692


Hi, I'm wondering if there exisits scanning software(for Mac or PC) to count 
colonies on a given cell culture bottle. This is especially helpful if 
one counts large amounts of cell cultures colonies. Tell me what you use and
what's the best (fastest, most functions, can export to favorite 
spreadsheet) on the market. 

Thanks, all suggestions are welcome. :)




Konrad C. Kim
Senior Lab Tech

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Aug 07 23:00:00 1994
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From: b.arnold@ic.ac.uk
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Subject: ACEDB 3.3
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Hi there

Having got a copy of the ACEDB 3.3 code to compile and run I would like
to know how to use the columns control on the vertical map. 
Specifically, has the columns cotrol code been integrated into ACEBD 3.3
fully and what needs to be included in configuration files (models.wrm 
etc) as from what i can gather from the resume Simon sent to the ace94
group he (you) seems to say that the code allows columns to become objects,
if this is so, do they do this automatically or do they need to be told to
do this ?

At the moment, what i get when I run the system, what I get is a normal
VMAP display with no pointers/tips or anything indicating where,what or how
the columns control has been implemented or is usedand set up.

Hope the above makes some sense to you simon and anyone else out there who
may be able to help me.

thanks in advance

Benedict Arnold.

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Aug 07 23:00:00 1994
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Summary: Frequently Asked Questions about finding and getting
 started with the database system ACEDB.  ACEDB is used
 to collect information regarding the molecular biology
 of the genome.
Archive-name: acedb-faq
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    Common Questions, with Answers, about ACEDB.

   
Q0:  What is ACEDB? 
Q1:  !What is the current version of ACEDB? 
Q2:  What hardware/software do I need to run ACEDB? 
Q3:  Where can I get ACEDB? 
Q4:  !What ACEDB databases exist? 
Q5:  What written documentation exists for ACEDB? 
Q6:  !Where can I find further information about ACEDB? 
Q7:  How should ACEDB be cited? 
Q8:  Is ACEDB object-oriented? 
Q9:  What's all this about Gopher|WAIS|ftp|WWW|URL ... 
Q10: How can I get on/off the ACEDB announcements mailing list? 
Q11: !When and where is the next ACEDB Workshop? 
Q411: Who prepared this document & where is the current version? 
  
    Questions marked with + are new, those with !
    have substantially changed answers.

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Q0:  What is ACEDB?


A0:  ACEDB is an acronym for A Caenorhabditis elegans Database.  It can
     refer to a database and data concerning the nematode C. elegans,
     or to the database software alone.  This document is concerned
     primarily with the latter meaning.  ACEDB is being adapted by many
     groups to organize molecular biology data about the genomes of
     diverse species [see Q4].

     ACEDB allows for automatic cross-referencing of items during
     loading and allows for hypertextual navigation of the links
     using a graphical user interface and mouse.  Certain special
     purpose graphical displays have been integrated into the
     software.  These reflect the needs of molecular biologists
     in constructing genetic and physical maps of genomes.

     ACEDB was written and developed by Richard Durbin (MRC LMB
     Cambridge, England) and Jean Thierry-Mieg (CNRS, Montpellier,
     France), beginning circa 1990.  It is written in the C programming
     language and uses the X11 windowing system to provide a platform
     independent graphical user interface.  The source code is publicly
     available [See Q3].  Durbin & Thierry-Mieg continue to develop
     the system, with contributions from other groups including
     Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory and the European integrated Genome
     Project.

     A description by Durbin & Thierry-Mieg:
         ACEDB does not use an underlying relational database
         schema, but a system we wrote ourselves in which data
         are stored in objects that belong in classes.  This is
         nevertheless a general database management system using
         caches, session control, and a powerful query language.
         Typical objects are clones, genes, alleles, papers,
         sequences, etc.  Each object is stored as a tree,
         following a hierarchical structure for the class (called
         the "model").  Maps are derived from data stored in tree
         objects, but precomputed and stored as tables for
         efficiency.  The system of models allows flexibility
         and efficiency of storage -missing data are not stored.
         A major advantage is that the models can be extended
         and refined without invalidating an existing database.
         Comments can be added to any node of an object.

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Q1:  What is the current version of ACEDB?


A1: [This answer refers to the software not the C. elegans data.]
    Currently there are two threads of the ACEDB kernel: the
    2.x series which represents the C. elegans project under
    the tutelage of Richard Durbin, and the 3.x series from
    Jean Thierry-Mieg.  However, the differences in the code
    are slight and the two authors committed to a single
    kernel at the ACEDB workshop in July, 1994.  The most
    recent release is an experimental version 3.3 which 
    is available from the repositories.

     A Macintosh version is available as version 2.0b4.

     To retrieve the software see Q3.

     To be kept informed of new releases see Q10.


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Q2:  What hardware/software do I need to run ACEDB?


A2:

     Unix and X11:
        
          Sun/SunOS 4.x
          Sun/Solaris
         DEC  DECstation3100, 5100 etc.
         DEC  Alpha/OSF-1
         Silicon Graphics Iris series
         PC 386/486 with Linux (free Unix)
         There exist, or have existed, ports onto Alliant, Hewlett-
           Packard, IBM R6000, Convex.   You may have to contact
           the developer responsible for the port to make these real.
         NeXT: contact Patrick Phillips at University of Texas,
           NeXTmail: patrick@wbar.uta.edu
              email: phil@decster.uta.edu
         
    MSDOS/Windows/NT:
         
        A port to NT is rumored to be in the works.
         
    Macintosh:
         [Contributed by Frank Eeckman]
         Macace is distributed as a self-extracting archive that contains
         the application, the wspec files, and a fully up to date
         database.  macace 3.0 is available with an updated 21bdb
         database.  Please send all questions/bug reports to
         eeckman@llnl.gov A native powerPC version is available as
         well.  Macace needs a macintosh with > 16 MBytes of RAM,
         and a decent color monitor is preferred. System 7 or
         greater is required. For the multimedia extensions Quicktime
         1.0 is required.  Please add your name to our mailing list by
         sending email to eeckman@llnl.gov.
         It is our belief that for cost savings a powerPC mac will beat
         the advertised linux-intel combination.
         Macace is fully compatible with xace, but includes some
         multimedia extensions (picture and movie support) not found
         in the unix versions.


     To retrieve the software see Q3.

    For cost savings, a combination of a high-end Intel platform
    with Linux appears very attractive. [Though the port does
    not seem robust, yet --bks]

    Here at the Institute of Forest Genetics we run ACEDB on a 
    Sun Microsystems SPARCstation II, and users can interact
    using Macintoshes and PC-clones by using X11 implementations
    for the personal computers and a LAN.

    X11 fonts note: ACEDB uses fonts listed in the xfonts.wrm
    file.  If you install new fonts on your machine be sure to
    run bldfamily(1) so that they are available.
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Q3:  Where can I get ACEDB?


A3:  All the files are available in the following public access
     accounts (anonymous ftp sites) accessible via Internet:
        
        
        lirmm.lirmm.fr (193.49.104.10) in pub/acedb
        
        
        cele.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (131.111.84.1) in pub/acedb
        
        
        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (130.14.20.1) in repository/acedb
        
            
            (version 1-10 is available in repository/aatdb)
             
        
        bioinformatics.weizmann.ac.il (132.76.55.12) in
            pub/databases/acedb.
        
        
        MacAce is available from:
        
        genome.lbl.gov
             (131.243.224.80) in pub/macace 
        
             cele.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (131.111.84.1) in pub/acedb/macace 
        
            

    A typical session would be: 
        ftp ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
        login: anonymous
        password: your email address
        cd repository/acedb/ace3
        binary
        ls
        get README_3
        get NOTES
        get INSTALL
        get bin.sparc.3.0.tar.Z
        quit
        

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Q4:  What ACEDB databases exist?


A4:  [In alphabetic order by Database name.
         Curators, submit changes as new paragraphs.--bks]

     Database : AAnDB-1.0
     Species : Aspergillus nidulans
     PI : Leland Ellis
     Last_update : February 1994
     ACEDB_version : 3.0
     Contact : leland@stralight.tamu.edu
      URL : http://keck.tamu.edu/ibt.html 
     Comment : defunct, See AGsDB

     Database : AAtDB
     Species : Arabidopsis thaliana
     Current version : 3-3
     Last_update : June 1994
     Curator : John Morris
     Contact : curator@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu
     Availability :  ftp weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/aatdb/aatdb.3x
     Availability :  Macintosh version in /aatdb/MacAAtDB directory 
     URL :  gopher://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/
     URL :  http://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu:80/index.html 

     Database : ABtDB-1.0
     Species : Bovine, Bos taurus
     ACEDB_version : 3.0 extended
     PI : Leland Ellis
     Last_update : February 1994
     Contact : leland@stralight.tamu.edu
     URL : http://keck.tamu.edu/ibt.html
     Comment : defunct, See AGsDB

     Database : AboutDB
     Curator : Staffan Bergh
     PI : Staffan Bergh
     Subject : ACEDB itself (Is this meta-meta-metadata)
     ACEDB 3.0
     Contact : staffan@biochem.kth.se
      URL http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/AboutDB.html 

     Database : ACeDB
     Species : Caenorhabditis elegans
     Current version: 2-10
     Curator : Jean Thierry-Mieg
     Curator : Richard Durbin
     Contact : rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
     Contact : mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr
     Last_update : May 1994

     Database : AceMap
     Species : Homo Sapiens (S. pombe, M. musculus in development)
     Focus : Physical mapping of human chromosomes X and 21
     Availability : 
     PI : Hans Lehrach
     PI : Hugues Roest Crollius
     Curator : Hugues Roest Crollius
     Contact : hrc@gea.lif.icnet.uk
             ICRF, Lincolns Inn Fields,
             London.  UK.
     Last_update : 22 Feb 1994

     Database : ace11
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : Physical mapping of chromosome 11
     Availability : under development
     Curator : Benedict Arnold
     PI : Peter Little
     Contact : Benedict Arnold
             Dept. Biochemistry,
             Imperial College,
             London,
             SW7 2AZ
             b.arnold@ic.ac.uk (this address seems wrong--bks)

     Database : AGsDB  A Genus species Database
     Species : Aspergillus nidulans
     Species : Neurospora crassa
     Species : cow w/ human anchor loci
     Species : cotton (demo)
     Species : Homologs of Aspergillus cell cycle loci
               for budding and fission yeast
     PI : Leland Ellis
     Curator : Leland Ellis
     Last_update : March 1994
     ACeDB_version : 3.0 (beta still), with extensions to the Human
             C21 Models to provide for multiple species, and queries
             between species via Homologs (e.g., cell cycle loci with
             links via Homologs between Aspergillus and budding 
             C. cerevisiae) and fission (S. pombe) yeast);
             interacting loci via defined Interactions for each locus
     Models : as of 3.13.94
     Data : as of 3.13.94
     Revision :  AAnDB for Aspergillus nidulans and ABtDB for
             Bos taurus (cow) have been folded into AGsDB, and are
             not being developed futher as individual species databases.
     WWW : WWW-AGsDB is an interface of AGsDB with the World-Wide
             Web, and utilizes the WWW-ACeDB Server (nph-acedb3) of
             Guy Ducoux (ducoux@moulon.inra.fr).
     URL : http://keck.tamu.edu/ibt.html
     Contact : leland@straylight.tamu.edu

     Database : ChlamyDB
     Species : Chlamydomonas
     PI : Elizabeth Harris
     Contact : mps2@acpub.duke.edu
     Curator : Maulin P. Shah
     Availability : Under development (Est. Sept. 94)
     Last_update : 30 Sept. 1993

    Database : CottonDB
    Species : Gossypium hirsutum (cotton)
    PI : Russell J. Kohel
           USDA-ARS
           Southern Crops Research Laboratory
           Route 5, Box 805
           College Station, Texas 77845
    Curator : Gerard R. Lazo
    Curator : Sridhar Madhavan
    Last_update : July, 1994
    ACEDB_version : 3.0
    Contact : rjk0339@zeus.tamu.edu (Russell Kohel)
    Contact : lazo@genome.tamu.edu (Gerard Lazo)
    Availability : still under construction
    Phone : 409-260-9311
    Fax : 409-260-9333

     Database : EcoDB
     Species : E. coli
     PI : Staffan Bergh
     Contact : staffan@biochem.kth.se
     Availability : Still under construction
     Last_update : Aug. 1994

     Database : FlyBase
     Species : Drosophila melanogaster
     Availability : gopher or gopher+ ftp.bio.indiana.edu
     Availability : ACeDB-style interface to SyBase server
                    due by end of 1994
     Curator : Edward Welbourne
     Contact : eddy@gen.cam.ac.uk
     Contact : flybase@morgan.harvard.edu
     PI : William Gelbart
     PI : Michael Ashburner
     PI : Thomas Kaufman
     PI : Kathy Matthews
     PI : John Merriam

     Database : Flydb
     Species : Drosophila melanogaster
     Curator : Suzanna Lewis
     Contact : suzi@fly2.berkeley.edu

     Database : GrainGenes
     Species : Wheat, barley, oats, relatives
     Availability : Anonymous ftp from probe.nalusda.gov:pub/grains
     Availability : Gopher greengenes.cit.cornell.edu port 70
     Availability : Gopher probe.nalusda.gov port 7002
     Curator : David E. Matthews
     PI : Olin D. Anderson
     Contact : matthews@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu
     Contact : oandersn@wheat.usda.gov
     URL : gopher://greengenes.cit.cornell.edu/1/
     Data_version : 1.3
     Released : 12 Jan 1994
     Based_on : acedb.1-10
     Availability : See following WWW URL
     URL :  http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedbs/acedbs/graingenes/index.html
     Last_update : Feb. 1994

     Database : human.c17
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Availability :  the database is under development
     Contact : lsprilus@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il
     Focus :  mapping & sequencing of Human Chromosome 17
     Based_on: acedb.3-0
     Last_update : Jan. 1994

     Database : IGD - the Integrated Genomic Database
     Species : Homo sapiens (later mouse and other mammalian species)
     Availability : September 1994 by ftp, on-line server October 1994
     Contact : Otto Ritter  [ o.ritter@dkfz-heidelberg.de ]
     Curator : tba
     Description : IGD - the Integrated Genomic Database -
             aims to integrate multiple public general molecular
             biology and human genome specific databases into single
             logical database with unified interface to existing
             analysis tools.

     Database : LIGM-DB
     Curator : Veronique Giudicelli
     Focus : genetic and physical mapping of loci of Immunoglobulins and Tcell receptors
     PI : Marie_paule Lefranc
     Contact : Veronique Giudicelli
             LIGM IGMM UMR CNRS 9942
             BP 5051 Rte de Mende
             34000 Montpellier
             giudi@ligm.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr

     Database : Maize
     Species : Zea mays L. ssp. mays
     Focus : Maize genome
     Acedb_version : 1.9
     FTP : probe.nalusda.gov, pub directory; anonymous ftp
     Comment : Maize is an acedb front end for the Maize Genome 
             Database, MaizeDB, a SYBASE database.
     Comment : MaizeDB is updated daily and has WWW connectivity
             to external databases: GenBank (loci, alleles and
             probes), SwissProt (gene products) and the E. coli
             Stock Center (loci).
     Data : Major data categories: 4522 mapped loci (located to
             chromosome or better) including 684 mapped genes and
             1423 mapped probed sites (gene candidates); 982
             probes; 1850 map scores; 1533 gel patterns
             (Probe/Enzyme/Stock); 4231 stocks; 5105 Variations
             (alleles, DNA polymorphisms, rearrangements, etc);
             465 phenotypes; 223 traits; 547 gene products;
             5314 bibliographic references; 1979 persons with
             addresses.
     Gopher : host = teosinte.agron.missouri.edu, port = 70
     Telnet :  telnet teosinte.agron.missouri.edu 
                  login as guest, use password 'corncob'
     HTTP :  http://teosinte.agron.missouri/top.html 
     HTTP : http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedbs/index.html
                via PGD, the Plant Genome Database
     Comment : Genera is a software toolkit for creating and
             extracting data from Sybase databases; used to
             create MaizeDB and Worldwide Web connectivity.
     HTTP : Genera Info  http://cgsc.biology.yale.edu/genera.html
     Funding : MaizeDB USDA/ARS to E. Coe
     Funding : Genera NSF BIR 92-01652 to S. Letovsky and M. Berlyn
     Curator/PI : Ed Coe ed@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Pat Byrne byrne@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Georgia Davis gdavis@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Mary Polacco  maryp@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Marty Sachs, Maize Stock Center,  msachs@uiuc.edu 
     Curator : Christiane Fauron  FAURON@GENE1.med.utah.edu
     Curator : Carolyn Wetzel cmwetzel@iastate.edu
     Curator : Steve Rodermel S1SRR@ISUVAX.IASTATE.EDU
     Design : Stan Letovsky letovsky-stan@CS.YALE.EDU
     Design : Mary Berlyn mary@fetalpig.biology.yale.edu
     Systems Manager :  Denis Hancock
                            dhancock@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Contact : db_request@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Last_update : 25 April 1994

     Database : MycDB
     Species : Mycobacteria
     Comment : MycDB is a collation of data on the mycobacteria,
             causative agents of tuberculosis and leprosy. It
             is centered on the mapping and sequencing projects
             under way in M.leprae and M.tuberculosis.
     PI : Staffan Bergh
     PI : Stewart Cole
     PI : Doug Smith
     Curator : Staffan Bergh
     Contact : staffan@biochem.kth.se
     Last_update : Apr. 1994
     WWW :  http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/MycDB.html
     ftp : ftp.pasteur.fr (157.99.64.12) in pub/MycDB
     ftp : kiev.physchem.kth.se (130.237.52.64) in pub/MycDB
     ftp : bioinformatics.weizmann.ac.il (132.76.55.12) in pub/databases/mycdb

     Database : PomBase
     Curator : Sean Walsh
     Curator :  Marie-Adele Rajendream
     PI : Bart Barrell
     Species : Schizosaccharomyces pombe
     Contact : svw@sanger.ac.uk
     Contact : barrell@sanger.ac.uk
     Comment : Not yet available for distribution

     Database : RiceGenes
     Species : Rice (O. sativa)
     Availability : Anonymous ftp from probe.nalusda.gov:pub/rice 
     Availability :  Gopher nightshade.cit.cornell.edu port 70 
     Availability :  Gopher probe.nalusda.gov port 7007 
     Curator : Edie Paul
     PI : Susah McCouch
     Contact : epaul@nightshade.cit.cornell.edu
     Release : ACEDB 1-10
     Last_update : May 1994

     Database : SaccDB
     Species : Saccharomyces cerevisiae
     Focus : Budding Yeast Genome
     Acedb_version : 2.0
     FTP : genome-ftp.stanford.edu, not available yet.
     Comment : The database is in beta test by a small number of
          yeast labs. The WWW-ACEDB gateway version is
          currently available, see HTTP below. The Gopher
          server contains only the Olson restriction map
          information and views of the resulting Clone
          (Physical) Map.
     Data : Olson/Riles Physical Map, Mortimer Genetic Maps and
          Information, Sequences from GenBank, Gene/Clone
          associations using the Wash Univ. primer clone
          filters.
     Gopher : host = genome-gopher.stanford.edu, port = 70
     HTTP : URL http://genome-www.stanford.edu 
     Funding : National Center for Human Genome Research, NIH
     PI : David Botstein, botstein@genome.stanford.edu
     Project Manager/Curator : Mike Cherry, cherry@genome.stanford.edu
     Curator : Fred Dietrich, dietrich@genome.stanford.edu
     Systems : Dan Mosedale, mosedale@genome.stanford.edu
     Contact : yeast-curator@genome.stanford.edu
     Last_update : 7 May 1994

     Database : SolGenes
     Coverage: Solanaceae - tomato, potato, pepper
     Availability : Anonymous ftp from probe.nalusda.gov:pub/solgenes 
     Availability :  Gopher nightshade.cit.cornell.edu port 71 
     Availability :  Gopher probe.nalusda.gov port 7006 
     Curator : Edie Paul
     PI : Steve Tanksley
     Contact : epaul@nightshade.cit.cornell.edu
     Release : ACEDB 1-10
     Last_update : May 1994

     Database : SorghumDB
     Species : Sorghum bicolor (L.) Moench
     PI : Keith F. Schertz
              USDA-ARS
              Dept. of Soil & Crop Sciences
              Texas A&M University
              College Station, TX 77843-2474
              Phone : (409) 260-9252
              FAX : (409) 845-0456
              E_mail : schertz@tamvm1.tamu.edu
     Curator : Najeeb U. Siddiqui
              Southern Crop Improvement Facility
              Crop Biotechnology Center
              Texas A&M University
              College Station, TX 77843-2123
              Phone : (409) 862-1523
              FAX : (409) 862-4790
              E_mail : nus6389@tamsun.tamu.edu
     Last_update : July 1994
     ACEDB_version : 3.0
     Availability : Under Development

     Database : SoyBase
     Species : Soybeans
     Curator :  Lisa Lorenzen
     PI : Randy Shoemaker
     Contact : lorenzen@mendel.agron.iastate.edu
     Phone : 515-294-0421
     Fax : 515-294-2299
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : Sybace
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Creator : Detlef Wolf
     Comment : Custom software --ACEDB front-end to SYBASE data
     Contact : D.Wolf@dfkz-heidelberg.de
     See_also : IGD

     Database : TreeGenes
     Species : Forest trees
     Availability : alpha, contact curator
     ACEDB_version : 1-10
     Curator : Bradley K. Sherman
     PI : David B. Neale
     Contact : Dendrome@s27w007.pswfs.gov
     Contact : bks@s27w007.pswfs.gov
     Contact : dbn@s27w007.pswfs.gov
     Last_update : March 1994
     URL : gopher://s27w007.pswfs.gov/
     URL : http://s27w007.pswfs.gov/
     URL : ftp://probe.nalusda.gov/pub/trees

     Database : 21Bdb
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : STS content mapping & sequencing of Human Chromosome 21
     Availability : by request, via ftp, world-wide-web
     Based_on : acedb.1-10 plus moulon server
     URL : ftp://genome.lbl.gov/pub/21Bdb-v1.1.tar.Z
     URL : http://genome.lbl.gov/Genome/acepage.html
     Curator : Donn F. Davy
     Contact : DFDavy@lbl.gov
     Contact : aggarwal@genome.lbl.gov
     Focus : STS content mapping & sequencing of Human Chromosome 21
     PI : Michael Palazzolo
     PI : Chris Martin
     PI : Jan-Fang Cheng
     Last_update : Apr. 1994

     Database : 22ace
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Curator : Ian Dunham
     Focus : Physical mapping of chromosome 22
     PI : Ian Dunham
     Contact : Ian Dunham
             Sanger Centre
             Hinxton Hall,
             Cambs.  UK.
             id1@sanger.ac.uk

     Database : VoxPop
     Species : Populus spp.
     Availability : contact curator
     Curator : Carl G. Riches
     PI : Reinhard F. Stettler
     Contact : cgr@poplar1.cfr.washington.edu
     Contact : STETTLER@coyote.cfr.washington.edu
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : Xace
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Curator : Gareth Maslen
     Focus : Physical mapping of chromosome X
     PI : David Bentley
     Contact : Gareth Maslen
             Sanger Centre
             Hinxton Hall,
             Cambs.  UK.
             glm@sanger.ac.uk

     Database : ?
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : Physical mapping of human chromosome 6.
     Curator : Ioannis Ragoussis
     Availability : Unknown
     Contact : Guy's hospital

     Database : ?
     PI : Scott Chasalow
     Species : Potato
     Contact : Scottish Crop Institute, Dundee
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : ?
     PI : George Murphy
     PI : David Flanders
     Species : Arabidopsis thaliana
     Contact : John Innes Center, Norwich, England
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : ?
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : Physical mapping of human chromosomes 22 and X
     Curator : Ian Dunham
     Contact : idunham@crc.ac.uk id1@sanger.ac.uk
     PI : Ian Dunham
     PI : David Bentley
     Last_update : 28 Sep 1993

     Database : ?
     Species : Homo Sapiens
     Focus : Physical and linkage mapping of chromosome 8
     Availability :
     Curator : Stephen Wood
     PI : Stephen Wood
     Contact : Stephen Wood
             Dept. Medical Genetics
             University of B. C.
             Vancouver, B. C.
             Canada
             swood@unixg.ubc.cq


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Q5:  What written documentation exists for ACEDB?


A5:
    From Sam Cartinhour:
       The ACEDB Documentation Server is a repository for
       documentation concerned with "A C. elegans Data Base",
       the generic genome database software designed by
       Richard Durbin (MRC, UK) and Jean Thierry-Mieg
       (CNRS, France). The server is intended as a resource
       for developers, curators, and end-users of all (not
       just plant) databases derived from ace. Eventually
       we hope to offer all kinds of documentation, from
       reprints to (technical) gossip.  The ACEDB
       documentation server is sponsored by the Plant Genome
       Database Project at the National Agricultural Library
       (USDA).  The documentation server is listed on the
       home page for the Agricultural Genome World Wide Web
       Server at http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000.

     Primary documents from the developers are:
         acedb -- A C. elegans Database: I. Users' Guide.
         acedb -- A C. elegans Database: II. Installation Guide.
         acedb -- A C. elegans Database: III. Configuration Guide.
         Syntactic Definitions for the ACEDB Data Base Manager
             --Jean Thierry-Mieg and Richard Durbin (1991-)
     
     Get By anonymous ftp from ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (130.14.20.1)
     in repository/acedb:
        ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/respository/acedb/doc*tar.Z
     And ftp://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/acedb_doc
     The files are in tex and postscript.  [I have had
     some difficulty printing these.  Jean Thierry-Mieg
     suggests latex xxxx.tex, dvi2ps xxxx.dvi > xxxx.ps, 
     lpr xxxx.ps.]

     You will find interesting documents in the wdoc
     subdirectory of the ACEDB distribution.

     The Australian National Genomic Information Service has prepared
     good documentation of the C. elegans version as
      Angisturte.ps and angistute.hqx 
     available by anonymous ftp at ncbi.hih.gov in repository/acedb/ace2.

     Cherry, J.M., Cartinhour, S.W., and Goodman, H.M. (1992) AAtDB,
     An Arabidopsis thaliana Database. Plant Molecular Biology Reporter
     10 (4): 308-309,409-410

     Tutorial manual for AAtDB:
     Cartinhour, S., Cherry, J.M., and Goodman, H.M. (1992) An
     Introduction to ACeDB: For AAtDB, An Arabidopsis thaliana
     Database. Massachusetts General Hospital. (Available on
     request in printed form from the AAtDB curator).

     A description of ACEDB:
     Cherry, J.M. and Cartinhour, S.W. (1993) ACEDB, A tool for
     biological information. in Automated DNA Sequencing and
     Analysis, edited by M.  Adams, C. Fields, and C. Venter.
     Academic Press (in press).  [text is available through
     ftp or gopher from weeds.mgh.harvard.edu]

     Another description of ACEDB for physical mapping projects:
     Dunham, I., Durbin, R., Mieg, J-T & Bentley, D.R. (1993)
     Physical mapping projects and ACEDB, in Guide to Human
     Genome Computing. Ed.  Bishop, M.J.  (Academic Press)
     (review, in press).  [text is available through ftp or
     gopher from weeds.mgh.harvard.edu]

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Q6:  Where can I find further information about ACEDB?


A6:  There is a Usenet/Biosci conference titled bionet.software.acedb.
     If you do not have access to the Biosci conferences via a
     newsreader (e.g. rn, trn) you can participate in the conference
     by electronic mail.  To subscribe to the e-mail version of the
     conference send email to biosci-server@net.bio.net (UK, European
     readers use biosci@uk.ac.daresbury or biosci.daresbury.ac.uk) with
     no subject line and only the message
     
           subscribe ACEDB-SOFT
           
     in the body.  To unsubscribe send the message
     
           unsubscribe ACEDB-SOFT
           
     to the same address.
     This is an automated service.  Your e-mail address will be taken
     from the header of the message that you send.  If you then send
     mail to acedb@net.bio.net the mail will be distributed to all
     subscribers and to the electronic conference.

     Mike Cherry has set up an ACEDB Developer's archive.  For
     anonymous ftp use the hostname weeds.mgh.harvard.edu and look in
     the acedb_dev directory. If you wish to contribute you can put
     files in the incoming directory.  Send a message to Mike
     (cherry@genome.stanford.edu) that you have put something in that
     directory then Mike will move it out for general access.
     For gopher you can connect to weeds.mgh.harvard.edu
     (132.183.190.21) and ...
     
        -->  N.  FTP Archives for Molecular Biology/
        
     then
     
        -->  M.  ACEDB Developer's archive/
        
     [N and M are integers which are subject to change.]

     The bionet.software. acedb.conference is archived and can be
     searched using WAIS.  Here is a Gopher-style link to the WAIS
     archive. (This is also courtesy of Mike Cherry.):
     
          #
          Type=7
          Name=ACEDB BioSci Electronic Conference
          Path=7/.index/acedb-biosci
          Host=genome-gopher.stanford.edu
          Port=70
     

     The AAtDB, Soybase, GrainGenes, Mace, and TreeGenes [see Q4]
     databases regularly submit data to the Plant Genome Database
     at the National Agricultural Library (NAL).  Nal makes this
     data available via the WWW using an http server with URL:
         
         http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/index.html
         
     You will also find a selection of models.wrm files (schemata)
     for the various databases here.  You will want to get a
     "mosaic client" to examine this.

     Other URL's that readers with mosaic clients might want to
     examine are:
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb/acedb.html for C. elegans data
        
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb/mycdb.html for Mycobacterium data
        
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr:8001/acedb/igd.html for an integrated
            genome database.
        
        

     For information on how these were created see
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb_conf_eng.html
        
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb_conf.html (en francais)
        

     The Genome Computing Group, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
     has an anonymous ftp service at machine genome.lbl.gov
     (131.243.224.80) which contains: 
          flydb - LBL's Drosophila Acedb-style database
          21bdb - LBL's Human Chromosome 21 Acedb-style database
          querdb - LBL's query-language extensions to Acedb 
          metadata - LBL's compendium of Acedb database schema variants
          macace-aatdb-demo.hqx  -  pre-release Acedb MacIntosh version
          There is also a repository of contributed software for
          data conversions and the like.
          

     [From Otto Ritter]
     IGD - the Integrated Genomic Database - is an international
     project of DKFZ, Heidelberg (Germany), CNRS, Montpellier
     (France), ICRF, London (UK), LBL, Berkeley (USA), and MRC,
     London/Cambridge, (UK). IGD is an extensible object-oriented
     distributed information management system with one global schema, 
     physical data integration at the back-end, and local data
     management at the front-end. It supports local schema evolution
     and local data integration, and has a potential for truly virtual
     "on-the-fly" integration (federation) of its resource databases.
     Beside data integration, IGD provides graphical user interface, 
     client/server communication, and seamless interface to a growing
     number of tools for structure, sequence, genetic, physical and
     comparative mapping analysis. ACEDB is the IGD main software
     component for data management.  As a database, IGD integrates
     and references genome related data from public sources. As an
     analysis tool,  IGD provides uniform interface to existing
     programs and program packages for tructure and sequence
     analysis, genetic and physical map construction and analysis,
     etc.  In addition to the major human and mouse databases already
     planned SWISS-PROT/PIR, PDB, GDB, OMIM, CitDB, CEPH, CHLC,
     CEPH-Genethon, Genbase, UK DNA ProbeBank, RLDB2, CAD, MGD,
     MouseBackcross DB), crossreferences will be maintained to
     dataabases established around specific model organisms
     (C.elegans, D. melanogaster, S. cerevisiae,  pombe etc.).
      Refs:
      
       1/ Ritter,O.: The Integrated Genomic Database. in Computational
           Methods in Genome Research, edited by S.Suhai, Plenum,
           57-73 (1994).
       2/ Ritter,O., Kocab,P., Senger,M., Wolf,D., and Suhai,S.:
           Prototype Implementation of the Integrated Genomic
           Database, Computers and Biomedical Research, 27, 97-115 (1994)
     

     Computer staff for the UC Berkeley Drosophila physical mapping
     project the LBL Human Chromosome 21 project, and the LBL plant
     genome projects meet regularly to coordinate their ACEDB
     extension and development efforts, along with Frank Eeckman,
     who is working on the Macintosh version of ACEDB (for further
     information, contact jlmccarthy@lbl.gov). They also keep in
     close touch (via email, personal visits, etc.) with their
     counterparts in Cambridge (Richard Durbin et al), Montpellier 
     Jean Thierry-Mieg et al), and the Interated Genome Database
     project in Heidelburg (Otto Ritter, Detlef Wolf et al).

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Q7:  How should ACEDB be cited?


A7:  From the distribution:

        We realize that we have not yet published any "real" paper on
        ACEDB.  We consider however that anonymous ftp servers are a
        form of publication. We would appreciate if users of ACEDB
        could quote:
            Richard Durbin and Jean Thierry Mieg (1991-). A C. elegans
            Database.  Documentation, code and data available from
            anonymous FTP servers at lirmm.lirmm.fr,
            cele.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk and  ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.

        Papers involved in database development could quote more
        precisely:
           I.   Users' Guide. Included as part of the ACEDB distribution
         kit,
           II.  Installation Guide. Included as part of the ACEDB
         distribution
           III. Configuration Guide. Included as part of the ACEDB
         distribution

        and the preprintkit, available by Anonymous FTP from ...
           Jean Thierry-Mieg and Richard Durbin (1992). Syntactic
           Definitions for the ACEDB Data Base Manager. Included as
           part of the ACEDB distribution.

             --Jean and Richard.

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Q8: Is ACEDB object-oriented?


A8: From the ACEDB User's Guide.

    A major current vogue in computer languages and database design
    is for ``object-oriented'' systems.  It's also a source of lots
    of argument.  We are just trying to build a good system, and
    don't want to get caught in the crossfire, but we do talk about
    organising our data into objects and classes.  We have undoubtedly
    been influenced by many of the ideas going around, but it isn't
    likely our system would be regarded as kosher by the object-
    oriented community.  In particular there is no class hierarchy, nor
    inheritance, and it is written in a modular but non-ideological way
    in straight C. However display and disk storage methods are class
    dependent.

    In some ways the class hierarchy is replaced by our system of
    models and trees, which seems to be rather unusual.  We think it
    is very natural for the representation of biological information,
    where for some members of a class a lot might be known about some
    aspect, but for most only a little is known.

    The advantages of our sytem over a relational database, such as
    Oracle or Sybase, is our ability to refine our descriptions without
    rebuilding the database and the possibility of organising the
    storage of data on disk according to their class, i.e. we store in
    a very different way the tree-objects and the long stretches of
    DNA sequence.

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Q9:  What's all this about Gopher/WAIS/ftp/WWW ...


A9:  These terms all refer to Internet protocols.
     An excellent introduction to the Internet is:
       _The Whole Internet User's Guide & Catalog_,
       by Ed Krol, O'Reilly & Associates, 1992.
     Or ask your system administrator to provide you with
     a gopher client or mosaic client and begin navigating
     on your own. 

     URL is a Universal Resource Locator on the World-Wide
     Web (WWW).  There are many free Internet browsers
     available that allow you to use an Internet connection
     and a URL to access services.  Mosaic may be the
     most popular and it is available for Mac, PC or Unix
     via anonymous ftp from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu.

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Q10: How can I get on/off the ACEDB announcements mailing list?


A10: To get on or off the mailing list send mail to
     rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk or mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr.
     New releases of the software are announced to
     this list.

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Q11: When and where is the Next ACEDB Workshop?


    Unannounced.

    If you would like to see some pictures of the
    ACEDB '94 Workshop in St. Matthieu de Treviers taken by Mike
    Cherry with the camera on an SGI workstation, the URL is: 
    http://genome-www.stanford.edu/~cherry/pics/acedb-94.pics.html.
    John Morris has provided some more at URL: 
    http://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/ace94/ace94.image.html.

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Q411:Who prepared this document & where is the current version?


    [Note to international readers: 411 is the phone number for
    information in the USA. --bks]

    This document will be posted monthly to the BIOSCI newsgroup
    bionet.software.acedb and to USENET conference news.answers.
    It is intended to be used as an index to ACEDB databases and
    to information about the database software.

    The latest text version of the ACEDB FAQ should be available via
    anonymous ftp at machine net.bio.net as file pub/BIOSCI/ACEDB/ACEDB.FAQ or at
    rtfm.mit.edu as pub/usenet/news.answers/acedb-faq. Answer 3
    demonstrates a sample FTP session.  If you only have
    electronic mail, the FAQ can be retrieved from
    mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu.

    There is an HyperText Markup Language (HTML) version of this
    document available on the World Wide Web:
        http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/acedbfaq.html
        http://s27w007.pswfs.gov/Homepage/acedbfaq.html

    Curators of ACEDB databases should take note of Question 4 and
    keep me apprised of changes.

    Errors of commission or omission are unintentional.  If I have
    forgotten to give you credit please let me know.  Please
    send comments and corrections to: acedbfaq@s27w007.pswfs.gov

    Major contributions in getting this FAQ off the ground
    were made by John McCarthy and Mike Cherry.  Other
    contributors include:

        Lisa Lorenzen
        David Matthews
        Edie Paul
        Donn Davy
        Eric De Mund
        Sam Cartinhour


    Please cite as:
      Sherman, Bradley K. (1994) "ACEDB Genome Database FAQ."
      Usenet news.answers.  Available via Universal Resource
      Locators ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/acedb-faq
      and http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/acedbfaq.html.

    To add or modify information in this document, please
    send mail to: acedbfaq@s27w007.pswfs.gov

      
      Bradley K. Sherman
      Dendrome Project                
      Institute of Forest Genetics    
      P.O. Box 245, Berkeley, CA, 94701
      Phone: 510-559-6437 Fax: 510-559-6440  
      

    The Dendrome Project and TreeGenes are funded by the
    USDA ARS Plant Genome Research Program.

          --bks
Return to List of Questions
---------------------End of file acedb-faq----------------------------

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!UX5.LBL.GOV!mccarthy
From: mccarthy@UX5.LBL.GOV (John L. McCarthy)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: ACEDB 95 Conference and Workshop
Date: 8 Aug 1994 19:19:33 -0700
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8 August 1994

TO: Potential Participants for ACEDB 95 Conference and Workshop

FR: John McCarthy, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory

RE: Time, Place, Format, etc.
----------------------------------------------------------
At the very successful ACEDB 94 Workshop last month in Montpellier, LBL was 
asked to help arrange next year's Workshop in California.  In order to begin 
this planning effort, I'd like to learn who might want to attend, and what 
preferences you might have as to dates, location, and meeting format, even 
though we may be constrained by site availability and other factors.

We are also exploring the possibility of getting financial support from DoE, 
NIH, NSF, USDA, and the European Community to help offset some of our costs, 
including scholarships and some travel support.

Could you please fill out the brief questionnaire below and return it to me as 
soon as possible? (this week would be best, if you're not on vacation).
If more than one person from your organization would like to attend,
please get each person to fill out and return a separate questionnaire.

Thanks,

-John
========================================================
To: jlmccarthy@lbl.gov
Subject: ACEDB 95 Conference and Workshop

Please fill out information following colons (:) and put X's in brackets [X]

Name: 

Organization:

A. CONFERENCE V. WORKSHOP

The 1992 and 1993 ACEDB Conferences were three days long.  This year, 1994, 
the ACEDB Workshop was two weeks long, modeled on Physics workshops.  Some 
people have suggested that next year we might try to do both.  What would you 
prefer?  Please indicate one or both you would like to attend.

[ ] I would like to attend a three day ACEDB 95 Conference
[ ] I would like to attend a two week ACEDB 95 Workshop
[ ] Other (please specify):

[ ] the 2 week ACEDB Workshop should immediately follow the Conference
[ ] a 3 day ACEDB Conference should be held at another time of year

Conference  Time Comments: 


B.  DATES
The 1992 Conference was held in May; the 1993 Conference was in August; and 
this year's workshop was the first two weeks of July.  In 1995, the Cold 
Spring Harbor meetings will be the second week of May , and the Hilton Head 
meeting is scheduled for September 16-20.  Would people like to have the ACEDB 
Workshop close to one of those meetings or at some other time?

[ ] following Cold Spring Harbor meeting in mid May
[ ] June
[ ] July
[ ] August
[ ] September, prior to Hilton Head meeting
[ ] September, following Hilton Head meeting

Date Comments:


C. LOCATION
In 1992 our Conference was in Cambridge, in 1993 in Boston, and this year in a 
small village outside Montpellier.  What would you prefer for 1995?
(you can indicate 1,2,3 for first, second, and third choices if you wish)

[ ] Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
[ ] Stanford
[ ] Berkeley
[ ] San Francisco Peninsula (towards Stanford)
[ ] Marin County (north of San Francisco)
[ ] Monterey Bay area
[ ] Lake Tahoe
[ ] Other (please specify): 


D. HOUSING ARRANGEMENTS
We can probably save some money by sharing rooms.  What would you like?
(please check only one)

[ ] single room (even if it costs more)
[ ] willing to share with another person to save money
[ ] willing to share with more than one person to save more money

Housing Comments:


E. GENERAL COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
Please add anything else that might be relevant to scheduling a time and place 
for next year's meeting(s).

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!UX5.LBL.GOV!mccarthy
From: mccarthy@UX5.LBL.GOV (John McCarthy)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: ACEDB 95 Conference v. Workshop distinctions
Date: 9 Aug 1994 06:46:01 -0700
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After sending out the questionnaire yesterday, I realized it probably should 
have been accompanied by an explanation of the distinction between a three day 
conference and a two week workshop (aside from time).  

As originally promoted by Jean and exemplified in this year's Montpellier 
workshop, a two week workshop ideally should let people collaborate on various 
types of ACEDB work, including:
- database curators building, revising, and augmenting individual databases;
- programmers working on various display and analysis modules;
- system developers working on kernal enhancements;
- other people working on related tools, scripts, etc.
- writers working on development of different types of documentation;
- discussion of possible future enhancements;
- tutorials in ACEDB programming, style, etc.
The two week format allows sufficient time for  productive work.
We can undoubtedly improve on the details, especially for database curators.

I think a three day conference would be a more standard sort of thing, with 
talks on new features, introductory tutorials, round-table discussions, etc.
Three days is too short a time to expect to get much actual work done.

Unfortunately, Asilomar is not available for two week periods except in 
December/January, so we are investigating other possible locations.
Other suggestions would be welcome.

-John

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!sanger.ac.uk!srk
From: srk@sanger.ac.uk
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: ACEDB 3.3
Date: 9 Aug 1994 09:00:58 -0700
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Benedict,

The new columns control for the vertical map is not in the 3.3 release,
mainly as it currently only suports the gmap display, but partially 
because A bug was found in it just before release, while I was on holiday.
Current plans are to have it for vmap and gmap in ACEDB 4.0

It is intended to allow the current column configuration of
a display to be stored in database objects, but it' not done yet.

Hope this helps,

Simon.
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Simon Kelley.  srk@sanger.ac.uk  work: +44 223 494980  home: +44 223 832411

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews
From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews")
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: bug in querying multivalued vectors fixed yet?
Date: 9 Aug 1994 09:15:18 -0700
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Does anyone who's seen ace 3.3 know if the multivalued-vector query bug is
fixed yet?  The one that causes the record

TShirt : "sam05"
Remarks 1990 "Great Shirt!"
        1991 "Sarah dislikes color"

to be found by the query 'find tshirt remarks AND NEXT = "great*"' but not
by 'find tshirt remarks AND NEXT = "sarah*" because only the first value
is examined by the query mechanism?

- Dave

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!library.ucla.edu!news.mic.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!newsserver.sfu.ca!darwin.mbb.sfu.ca!jbryer
From: jbryer@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca (Jeff Bryer)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb,bionet.celegans
Subject: ACEDB 2-10 for Linux
Date: 10 Aug 1994 02:24:23 GMT
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Xref: biosci bionet.software.acedb:377 bionet.celegans:54

Hi everyone,

I just installed up Linux yesterday and today spent the many
hours to compile in the C. elegans data for ACEDB v2.0  So to
save other people the trouble of doing the same the entire 
package ACEDB for Linux 2-10 is available on trog.mbb.sfu.ca
(142.58.213.33) in /pub/acedb as linux.2_10.tar.Z

The data was compiled in on a 486DX-33 with 16MBs of RAM
running Linux 1.1.18 (Slackware 2.0.0 distribution) and
a 32MB swap device (and it chugged away for a couple hours
chewing up all 16MBs and half the swap space).

File size is about 73MBs uncompressed, 26MBs compressed.

This is based on the ACEDB v2.0 port for Linux that Ken Clark
did.

Jeff Bryer
jbryer@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Aug 11 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!headwall.Stanford.EDU!hsdndev!cvlb29.harvard.edu!user
From: system@cvlab.harvard.edu (TJR)
Newsgroups: bionet.software,bionet.cellbiol,bionet.general,bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.software.acedb,bionet.software.gcg
Subject: Re: Scanning Cell Culture Colonies
Date: 12 Aug 1994 14:21:32 GMT
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Try using NIH Image --- using anonymous ftp, download NIH Image from
zippy.nlm.nih.gov.

TJR

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Aug 14 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!rutgers!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!news.dfn.de!uni-muenster.de!asterix.uni-muenster.de!schapej
From: schapej@asterix.uni-muenster.de (Jörg Schaper)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Programmers guide?
Date: 15 Aug 1994 15:09:31 GMT
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Hi,

working with ACEDB 2.0 at the moment I've seen some remarks about a
programmers / curators guide. On the ftp servers given in the faq I can only
find the installation, configuration and users guide. 

Where can I get the programmers guide? Can anyone send me a ftp adress?
Thanks in advance.

JS

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- Jörg Schaper                                   schapej@uni-muenster.de --
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 15 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!dkfz-heidelberg.de!D.Wolf
From: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Detlef Wolf)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Programmers guide?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 09:03:20 -0700
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here is some old version, hope this helps.

ftp> open igd-ftp.inet.dkfz-heidelberg.de
Connected to igd-ftp.
220 sun09a FTP server (SunOS 4.1) ready.
Name : anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
Password:
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> cd pub/acedb/doc
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> ls 
200 PORT command successful.
150 ASCII data connection for /bin/ls (193.174.54.111,32998) (0 bytes).
programmers.guide.apr-92.tar.Z

Detlef

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       Im Neuenheimer Feld 280,  69120 Heidelberg,  Germany

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Aug 16 23:00:00 1994
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From: schapej@asterix.uni-muenster.de (Jörg Schaper)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: Programmers guide?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 13:08:27 GMT
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Detlef Wolf (D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de) wrote:
: here is some old version, hope this helps.

: ftp> open igd-ftp.inet.dkfz-heidelberg.de
: Connected to igd-ftp.
: 220 sun09a FTP server (SunOS 4.1) ready.
: Name : anonymous
: 331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
: Password:
: 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
: ftp> cd pub/acedb/doc
: 250 CWD command successful.
: ftp> ls 
: 200 PORT command successful.
: 150 ASCII data connection for /bin/ls (193.174.54.111,32998) (0 bytes).
: programmers.guide.apr-92.tar.Z

: Detlef

: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
: Detlef Wolf,   European Data Resource for Human Genome Research
: eMail: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de  phone: +49 6221 42 -2331   fax: -2333
: sMail: DKFZ (German Cancer Research Centre), Abt. Molekulare Biophysik (0810)
:        Im Neuenheimer Feld 280,  69120 Heidelberg,  Germany

--

Hi,

thanks a lot for enabling us to get the programmers guide. 
We could not connect to  the server given above, we had to skip the .inet

JS

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Aug 21 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!dkfz-heidelberg.de!P.Kocab
From: P.Kocab@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Petr Koca'b)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: ACEDB 95 Conference and Workshop
Date: 22 Aug 1994 00:30:07 -0700
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Please fill out information following colons (:) and put X's in brackets [X]

Name: Petr Kocab

Organization: DKFZ Heidelberg, Germany

A. CONFERENCE V. WORKSHOP

The 1992 and 1993 ACEDB Conferences were three days long.  This year, 1994, 
the ACEDB Workshop was two weeks long, modeled on Physics workshops.  Some 
people have suggested that next year we might try to do both.  What would you 
prefer?  Please indicate one or both you would like to attend.

[X] I would like to attend a three day ACEDB 95 Conference
[X] I would like to attend a two week ACEDB 95 Workshop
[ ] Other (please specify):

[X] the 2 week ACEDB Workshop should immediately follow the Conference
[ ] a 3 day ACEDB Conference should be held at another time of year

Conference  Time Comments: 


B.  DATES
The 1992 Conference was held in May; the 1993 Conference was in August; and 
this year's workshop was the first two weeks of July.  In 1995, the Cold 
Spring Harbor meetings will be the second week of May , and the Hilton Head 
meeting is scheduled for September 16-20.  Would people like to have the ACEDB 
Workshop close to one of those meetings or at some other time?

[X] following Cold Spring Harbor meeting in mid May
[ ] June
[ ] July
[ ] August
[ ] September, prior to Hilton Head meeting
[ ] September, following Hilton Head meeting

Date Comments:


C. LOCATION
In 1992 our Conference was in Cambridge, in 1993 in Boston, and this year in a 
small village outside Montpellier.  What would you prefer for 1995?
(you can indicate 1,2,3 for first, second, and third choices if you wish)

[X] Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
[ ] Stanford
[ ] Berkeley
[ ] San Francisco Peninsula (towards Stanford)
[ ] Marin County (north of San Francisco)
[ ] Monterey Bay area
[ ] Lake Tahoe
[ ] Other (please specify): 


D. HOUSING ARRANGEMENTS
We can probably save some money by sharing rooms.  What would you like?
(please check only one)

[X] single room (even if it costs more)
[ ] willing to share with another person to save money
[ ] willing to share with more than one person to save more money

Housing Comments:


E. GENERAL COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
Please add anything else that might be relevant to scheduling a time and place 
for next year's meeting(s).

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|   Petr Kocab                                       ||
|   German Cancer Research Center (DKFZ)             ||
|   Molecular Biophysics Group                       ||
|   Im Neuenheimer Feld 280                          ||
|   D-69120 Heidelberg, Germany                      ||
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|   email:     P.Kocab@dkfz-heidelberg.de            ||
|   voice:     (+49-6221) 42 2340                    ||
|   fax  :     (+49-6221) 42 2333                    ||
|____________________________________________________||
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Aug 24 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!dkfz-heidelberg.de!D.Wolf
From: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Detlef Wolf)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: .ace and doube quotes
Date: 25 Aug 1994 09:32:19 -0700
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Thu Aug 25 17:55:44 MDT 1994  dok256
.ace and doube quotes  -- a nightmare

Summary:
do not use double quotes in .ace data.

Reason:
if there are double quotes in the data it
is not possible to dump the database and get
back to same state by reloading that dump

Method:
using ACEDB 3.1 as of 14.July 94 
or the 
with ACEDB 3.3 from_ncbi as of 94-07-30 with:

the model:
?Sequence other_features ?Text Text Text Text  
or
?Motif Text Text Text   (from ACEDB 3.3)

read .ace file:
Sequence "a1"
other_features "1a" "2" "3"
other_features "\"1b" "2" "\"3"
other_features "\""1c" "2" "\""3"

displayed as:
a1                                        Attach...   Quit

  Features    other_features      1a      2   3
                                  1b      2   3
                                  "1c     2   "3

dumped as:
// data dumped from tree display

Sequence : "a1"
other_features	 "1a" "2" "3"
other_features	 "1b" "2" "3"
other_features	 ""1c" "2" ""3"

reading that dump is displayed as:
a2                                        Attach...   Quit

  Features    other_features      1a      2   3
                                  1b      2   3




EMBL data contains a lot of double quotes which I would like
to keep. I think this is such a silly bug and should be fixed.

The problem is probably with these lines in w1/freesubs.c:

	    else if (*in == '"') /* restore backslash for freeword to read */
	      { *in = '\\' ;
		*++in = '"' ;
	      }
why is " replaced by \ in the current position and the next position set to " ?

Detlef

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Fri Aug 26 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!dkfz-heidelberg.de!D.Wolf
From: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Detlef Wolf)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: minimal ACEDB classes.wrm file
Date: 27 Aug 1994 09:14:48 -0700
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If you want to add many classes (150) to an ACEDB database,
then read this
else skip it.

---------------------------
probably this comes a bit late now, since Jean will
release a code that does not need this anymore.
But for the time being:

Starting from the code as of 94-07-14 for ACEDB 3.1 from the
Montpellier workshop (this most probably also applies to ACEDB 3.3),
I wanted to add a lot of classes to ACEDB, so I had to leave out
some of the old ones.  Since I needed a contiguous space of class
numbers I had to recompile.  But which user-defined classes are
needed by the code?

All classes used in ACEDB source code:
perl -ne '/(_V\w+)/ && print $1,"\n"' w?/*.c w?/*.h | sort | uniq

Then I form the intersection with the classes in the 
orginal classes.wrm file.

The tags file I keep, because many tags are used and
new tags are cheap.

The options.wrm is adapted to classes.wrm

Thus having minimal {classes,tags,options}.wrm files
for compiling, I use the "newspec" script from Otto that
auguments the {classes,tags,options}.wrm with everything
necessary for the current models.wrm

I append all classes, options and newspec files, so you can use them.
tags.wrm is from the distribution.
Detlef

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/* minimal version Fri Aug 26 12:10:40 WET DST 1994  dok256 */
  /* wspec/classes.wrm
     
     This file is read at compile and at execution time.

     It holds the enumaration of the application dependent classes.
     Classes necessary to the kernel are defined in a second file 
     wspec/sysclasses.wrm, which should not be touched except in
     consultation with us.

     You can add new classes at will, but if you suppress one or 
     renumber it, you must recompile and reconstruct the database 
     from ace files.

     Class properties, formerly defined in this file, are
     now in wspec/options.wrm.  If there is no entry there then
     classes are type B (tree), hidden, with display method TREE.

     Each #define line corresponds to a class. We require strlen(name) < 32.
     There must be no repetitions of class numbers.
     The total number of classes cannot exceed 255.
     The total number of display types cannot exceed 64.
     
     For now we allocate 0-100 for system classes
			 101-199 for application classes
			 200-255 for subtypes 
	The subytypes will not need class numbers when the ?Model
	class works fully.
  */

/* def  _VClass_name  Class_number */

#define _V2_point_data 101
#define _VAllele 102
#define _VChrom_Band 103
#define _VClone 104
#define _VClone_Grid 105
#define _VContig 106
#define _VDNA 107
#define _VDf_Dup_data 108
#define _VGene_Class 109
#define _VInterval 110
#define _VLocus 111
#define _VMap 112
#define _VMethod 113
#define _VMotif 114
#define _VMultiMap 115
#define _VMulti_pt_data 116
#define _VPaper 117
#define _VPeptide 118
#define _VPool 119
#define _VProbe 120
#define _VRestriction 121
#define _VSequence 122
#define _VgMap 123
#define _VpMap 124
#define _VvMap 125

/*  --------- end of needed classes ----------- */


-----------------------------------------------------------
/* minimal version Fri Aug 26 12:10:40 WET DST 1994  dok256 */
  /* wspec/options.wrm
     
     This file is read only at execution time

     It holds the class definitions necessary to the applications.
     The kernel classes are defined in  wspec/sysoptions.wrm
     which can serve as a model when editing this one.

     You can freely edit this file without recompiling
     but it must remain consistent with the other wspec files
     and you must never change the type (A, B, X) of a class
     unless you reconstruct the database from ace files.

     Line starting with _VClassName are parsed, they are expected
     to contain a la Unix a set of -Option parameters.
     Class names must match their enumeration in wspec/classes.wrm
	
     The order in which classes appear here will be used in displays.
	
     Options names can be abbreviated, recognized options are
     -Hidden    : this class will not be listed in the acedb Main Window.
     -Visible   : this class will be listed in the acedb Main Window.
     -Array     : this class is of type A, (Array or tuple).
     -Btree     : this class is of type B, it must be further defined in models.wrm
     -XREF      : Auto cross referencing Hidden B system class. Do not use.
     -Display  displayType : The preferred display type of the class,
		             as enumerated in wspec/disptype.wrm
     -Title  Tag : Tag must be a tag name listed in wspec/tags.wrm (or systags)
	           If present in some object of that class, the text following it
                   will be used preferentially when referring to that object.
     -Symbol Tag : Tag must be a tag name listed in wspec/tags.wrm (or systags)
	           If present in some object of that class, the text
		   or key following it will be used preferentially
                   when referring to that object in Maps.
     -Rename otherName : Other name will show in lists, old and new
                         name will be recognized in ace files and queries, old
                         is used in the code. In case some newName
			 matches some old name, the new name takes precedence.
     -CaseSensitive : The names in this class will be case sensitive.
                      Never undo this option once it has been used.
     -Sybase : Experimental external storage in sybase.
     -Known : Prevents indirect creation of new object in ace files
              You can't enter a new object in this class directly
              but not by quoting it in another object.

     Classes default as -B -H -D TREE
     A classes further default as -H -D ZERO


     Displays:
	Every display type needs a display function.
     Parsers:
        Special code must be provided for A Classes
     Dumps:
        Special code must be provided to dump A classes
     
     These routines must be registered in file wspec/quovadis.h before
     recompilation.
  */


// _VAA                -A -H  
_VChrom_Band      -V  -D VMAP
_VClone          -V -D PMAP
_VContig             -V -D PMAP
_VDNA                 -A -V -D FMAP
// _VFragment -V -D VMAP
// _VGDB_id    -V -Protected
_VLocus            -V -D VMAP 
_VMap     -V -D VMAP  
_VMotif    -V 
_VMultiMap -V -D DtMULTIMAP
_VPaper           -V -T Title 
_VProbe            -V -T Name
// _VSTS -V -D VMAP
_VSequence       -V -D FMAP      -T  Title 
// _VYAC   -V -D DtPmapFingerprint
_VgMap		     -A -H -D GMAP
_VpMap		     -A -H -D PMAP
_VvMap		     -A -H -D VMAP

/* ------------ minimal version ends here ----------------- */




-----------------------------------------------------------
#!/usr/local/bin/gawk -f 
#          ^
#          use nawk or gawk, but NOT awk 
#
# filename: newspec
# by Otto Ritter, DKFZ, Germany [o.ritter@dkfz-heidelberg.de] 
#    created     Nov  3 93
#    last modif  Apr 23 94 SGI
# purpose; parse models.wrm and generate new {tags|classes|options}
# syntax: setenv ACEDB <dirpath>; newspec 
#         -- no command line arguments
# Fri Aug 26 12:49:58 WET DST 1994  dok256  -- classes are no tags
########################################################################

BEGIN { 

### check the environment & backup some files
if ( ENVIRON["ACEDB"] == "") { 
   print "newspec error:: ACEDB variable not defined." ; exit 1 }
path = ( ENVIRON["ACEDB"] "/wspec/" )
print "echo newspec :: " path "models.wrm"

if ( system("cd " path  "; \cp tags.wrm tags.wrm.bak") != 0 ) { 
   print "newspec error:: cannot backup tags.wrn" ; exit 1 }
if ( system("cd " path  "; \cp  classes.wrm classes.wrm.bak") != 0 ) { 
   print "newspec error:: cannot backup classes.wrn" ; exit 1 }

### now we are working in $ACEDB/wspec
      logfile = path "newspec.log"

### parse sys files first
      print "// newspec.log\n" > logfile

       ff = (path "sysclass.wrm")
       while ((getline < ff ) >0) 
             if ($1=="#define") class[tolower($2)] = $2;
       close(ff); 

       ff = (path "classes.wrm")
       while ((getline < ff ) >0) 
              if ($1=="#define"){ if (tolower($2) in class) { 
                 printf "## warning: %s both in sysclass.wrm and classes.wrm ", tolower($2) ;} 
              else class[tolower($2)] = $2; ClassNr =$3+1; } 
       close(ff); 

       ff = (path "systags.wrm")
       while ((getline < ff ) >0) 
             if ($1=="#define")   tag[tolower($2)] = $2;
       close(ff); 

       ff = (path "tags.wrm")
       while ((getline < ff ) >0) 
              if ($1=="#define") {  if (tolower($2) in tag ) {
                 printf "## warning: %s both in systags.wrm and tags.wrm", tolower(tg); }
              else tag[tolower($2)] = $2; TagNr = $3+1; }
       close(ff); 

       ff = (path "options.wrm")
       while ((getline < ff ) >0) 
             if (substr($1,1,2) =="_V") in_options[$1] = 1;
       close(ff); 

if (ClassNr < 110 ) ClassNr =  110
if (  TagNr < 1000) TagNr   = 1000


### parse models.wrm
ff = (path "models.wrm")
while ((getline < ff ) > 0 ){ 
    gsub("#","?"); 
    gsub(/\/\/.*$/,""); 
    gsub(/@.*$/,""); 
    for (i=1;i<=NF;i++) {
        if (substr($i,1,1) == "?" ) {  # classname
              cl = "_V" substr($i,2) ; 
        if (tolower(cl) in class) { 
              if ( class[tolower(cl)] != cl ) print "## warning: case mismatch ", cl, class[tolower(cl)]  ;  }
        else {class[tolower(cl)] = cl; 
              print ("#define",cl,ClassNr++) >> (path "classes.wrm"); 
              newclass = newclass SUBSEP cl;}
        if (!(cl in in_options) && !(cl in newoptions)) {print cl " -V" >> "options.wrm"; newoptions[cl] = ++nopt; };
        continue;  # detlef thinks classes are no tags
      } # classname
        tg = "_" $i;                  # tag name
        gsub(/\?/,"",tg);
        if ( tolower(tg) in tag ) { 
              if ( tag[tolower(tg)] != tg ) print "case mismatch ", tg, tag[tolower(tg)] ; }
        else { tag[tolower(tg)] = tg; 
               print ("#define",tg,TagNr++) >> (path "tags.wrm"); 
               newtag = newtag SUBSEP tg; }
     }#for
} #while 
close(ff); 

### generate report 
{ 
  
  ncl = split(newclass,arr,SUBSEP);
  print "======== added classes ======" > logfile 
  for ( x in arr ) print arr[x] > logfile 

  ntg = split(newtag,arr,SUBSEP);
  print "\n======== added tags  =========" > logfile 
  for ( x in arr ) print arr[x] > logfile 

  print "\n======== added options ======" > logfile 
  for (x in newoptions) print x, "-V" > logfile

  printf "## newspec added:\n%i to %s\n%i to %s\n%i to %s\nsee the logfile %s\n\n", ncl,"classess.wrm",\
          ntg, "tags.wrm", nopt,"options.wrm",  logfile  ; 

} 

exit 0

}#BEGIN  


{} # empty main


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Aug 28 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!nihs.nihs.go.jp!taka
From: taka@nihs.nihs.go.jp (Takako Igarashi)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: gif display program
Date: 29 Aug 1994 01:39:11 -0700
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I am a researcher of National Institute of Health Sciences 
in Japan. I am working on reconfiguring ACEDB for our new 
database. 
I would like to know how to display "gif files" from ACEDB.  
Does anyone know any appropriate program ? 
Thank you for your attention of this question.

Takako Igarashi
National Institute of Health Sciences
Division of Chem-Bio Informatics
taka@nihs.go.jp 


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Aug 28 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews
From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews")
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: "follow" into a vector?
Date: 29 Aug 1994 11:34:28 -0700
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Is there a way to use the query command "follow" to follow the second field
of a vector instead of the first?  e.g. for

  ?Germplasm Collection_and_ID ?Collection ?Germplasm

, example

  Germplasm : "Abilene"
  Collection_and_ID "USDA" "PI12345"

, I'd like to follow to the PI12345 etc. values of such records.

"find germplasm; follow collection_and_id NEXT" didn't work, still
returned the Collection's.

- Dave Matthews

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 29 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!stout.Stanford.EDU!cherry
From: cherry@stout.Stanford.EDU (Mike Cherry)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: gif display program
Date: 30 Aug 1994 03:42:58 GMT
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In article <9408290838.AA07585@nihs.nihs.go.jp>,
Takako Igarashi <taka@nihs.nihs.go.jp> wrote:
>I would like to know how to display "gif files" from ACEDB.  
>Does anyone know any appropriate program ? 
>Thank you for your attention of this question.

You can use the Pick_me_to_call facility. In your models file add the
following within the class you want to contain the reference to the
image:

	Pick_me_to_call  UNIQUE Text UNIQUE Text

Then in the info in the ace file like this example from AAtDB:

Image : "1a5"
Locus  "1a5"
Autorad        "1a5"
Caption        "Photo by Nottingham Stock Centre"
Pick_me_to_call        "xv" "1A5.gif"

The first Text item is the name of the graphic viewer and the second
is the filename of the image. When the Pick_me_to_call is clicked, in
the above example, on twice xace will do the following via a system call:

cd $ACEDB/externalFiles; xv 1A5.gif

You should be able to use a different viewer, but I have only used xv
for GIF images on UNIX. You can get a copy of xv version 2.x from
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov in repository/acedb or weeds.mgh.harvard.edu in
aatdb/aatdb.1x

Mike

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Aug 29 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!CADEV6.INTEL.COM!ptagare
From: ptagare@CADEV6.INTEL.COM
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: date and time comparision in ACEDB
Date: 30 Aug 1994 08:29:19 -0700
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Hi!

I'm looking at some of ACEDB's data management capabilities,
and I was wondering if ACEDB supports the concept of date
and time as basic data types? In other words, can I do a query 
that finds me all the authors of papers published after 08/22/94
(mm/dd/yr) AND 13:00:00 (hrs:mnts:secs)?

Also, when are the set operations going to be implemented in tace?
They are not in 3.1, as far as I could tell.

Thank you.

--
pradeep

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Aug 30 23:00:00 1994
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From: rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Richard Durbin)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: date and time comparision in ACEDB
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We now have a DateType as a basic type like Int, Float, Text.  This
was implemented during the 1994 ACEDB workshop, and will be in the
next main release, later this fall.  It shows the date and time to
the second, and can parse in just a date, just the time (implicit
todays date -- I think this is there!) and "now" (current date/time).
'>' and '<' will work with items from this type.

I'm not so sure about set operations in queries.  I'll leave that
to Jean.

Richard

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Aug 30 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!nihs.nihs.go.jp!taka
From: taka@nihs.nihs.go.jp (Takako Igarashi)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: RE: RE: gif display program
Date: 31 Aug 1994 02:46:43 -0700
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Thank you. I could display gif files.  
I could also know how to use Pick_me_to_call facility of ACEDB. 
Thank you again.

Takako Igarashi
National Institute of Health Sciences
taka@nihs.nihs.go.jp

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Aug 30 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!dkfz-heidelberg.de!D.Wolf
From: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Detlef Wolf)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: date and time comparision in ACEDB
Date: 31 Aug 1994 05:33:20 -0700
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I tried the dateType in queries, but think it is not parsed
yet.
Using ACEDB 3.3 code from ncbi as of 94-07-30
compiled on an SGI.

the model:
?Locus  GDB Name              UNIQUE Text
            Add_date          UNIQUE DateType
            Modification_date UNIQUE DateType

the data:
// data dumped from keyset display

Locus : "1"
Name	 "test"
Add_date	1994-08-31_00:00:00
Modification_date	1994-08-30_00:00:00

the queries:
>?Locus Add_date < "1994-09-30_00:00:00"
>?Locus Add_date < 1994-09-30_00:00:00
>?Locus Add_date = 1994-08-31_00:00:00
>?Locus Add_date = "1994-08-31_00:00:00"
>?Locus Add_date = "1*"

none of the queries retrieves the locus.

Did anyone get it working?

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Aug 30 23:00:00 1994
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From: mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr (Danielle et Jean Thierry-Mieg)
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Subject: date in queries
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i am sorry i thought it did work, i ll check soon.

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Aug 30 23:00:00 1994
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From: mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr (Danielle et Jean Thierry-Mieg)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re:  A weird idea ...
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i (mieg) strongly supports this use of the tree system by Eddy:
pondering Aberrations (again) and thought of something that
makes controlled vocabularies happen in a rather neat way.  Suppose
we're really after, say,

        Type UNIQUE Deficiency
                    Duplication
                    Inversion
                    Ring
                    Other


because our software needs to know which of these classes to display an
object as belonging to, but our source of information supplies a broader
(still controlled) vocabulary which, in effect, subdivides each of the
above; we could say (I'm sorry, I don't know a suitable subdivision so
I'm just using synonyms instead):

        Type UNIQUE Deficiency deficient
                               lacking
                               short
                    Duplication multivalent
                                copied
                                polymerised
                    Inversion backwards
                              inverted
                              reversed
                    Ring cycle
                         circle
                    Other anomalous
                          strange

and so on.  Then supplying the relevant word to an object fills in that
tag and all the intervening ones (Type and one of the UNIQUE set) so
that code which really wants one of the narrowed CV to work from can
find the right version.  Users would still get the variety of synonyms
(which might, after all, be a classification within the relevant
sub-heading and, therefore, useful).

Not relevant to anything at the moment, but possibly worth sharing ...

        Eddy.

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Aug 31 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!FLY2.BERKELEY.EDU!suzi
From: suzi@FLY2.BERKELEY.EDU (Suzanna Lewis)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: one querybuilder bug
Date: 31 Aug 1994 22:55:45 -0700
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a nitty-gritty picyune detail

There is (at least) one bug in query builder.  You will only
notice this one if you have tag names greater than 24
chars in length and have the memory checking turned on.

The bug is in several places, whereever a menu is being
generated.  Before

newMenu->text = (char *) arrayCreate (BUFFER_SIZE, char);
strcpy(newMenu->text, "menu item string");  

This was copying the string into the array structure (length 24)

It should be

newMenu->text (char *) messalloc (BUFFER_SIZE) ;
strcpy (newMenu->text, "menu item string") ;

Likewise the destroy has to be changed to do a messfree.

-s

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Aug 31 23:00:00 1994
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Hi

can anyone help with this? I don't have any experience with Linux
at all, and I don't think we have any users currently using Linux.

You can email me and I'll pass it on.

TIA /staffan (staffan@biochem.kth.se)

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 To: staffan@biochem.kth.se
 From: 
 
 Dear Staffan,
              I, Tanmay Banerjee, would like your help in installing 
 MycDB software running under Linux on PC-386. I am working with Dr. Indira 
 Ghosh, who spoke to you regarding MycDB software on her last visit to 
 Stockholm. Here are certain points on which I would like your comments:
 
 1. We have not been able to get a Xwindow working with colour. We ran the
the MycDB software on the Black & White mode (VGA mono) of Xwindow.
We could read the header of each window, but the content of the window
is not readable (as the black background,overlapped with the text in 
black). We looked into the Xconfig file under /usr/X386/lib/X11/. We 
found that RGBPath is given as usr/X386/lib/X11/rgb,but in the mentioned
directory there are three files with starting with rgb. They are rgb.txt,
rgb.dir & rgb.par. Amongst them, rgb.txt is a readable file, while others
are not. We made a separate directory named "rgb" and put these three files
in it, but it still did not read it. 
 
 2. Can you tell us how to use tvga9000 instead of VGAmono?
 
 3. Can you provide us the name & e-mail of a person, who is using MycDB on 
PC-386 under Linux ?
	 
With this information,(I can provide more if required) Will you 
be able to help us in running MycDB in mono mode if not in colour?
(We have a VGA color monitor).

I would be grateful, if you can reply at your earliest.
	 
  With regards,
  
  Tanmay Banerjee.
   


