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From: ramer@nrc.uab.edu (Kevin W. Ramer)
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In article <flip-3009941253220001@darwin2.bio.purdue.edu>,
flip@bogie2.bio.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell) wrote:
> 
> I guess you don't have the laserwriter 8 extention. You can print
> multiple pages on one sheet from any program.
> 
> The laserwriter 8 extention should be at all FTP site with
> Mac shareware.
> 

I believe that your best bet is an Apple site. e.g 
ftp.apple.com:/dts/mac/sys.soft or ftp.austin.apple.com, et. al.  I don't
think that this software is permitted on most sites.

> Flip
> 
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: dtailor@crc.ac.uk (Dilip Tailor x3296)
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Subject: ACeDB data update via cron/expect/tace
Date: 30 Sep 1994 11:15:20 GMT
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Hello,


I wish to update ACeDB databases via cron jobs and not via interactive means.
Has anyone attempted to do this?

tace with parse command almost does this but it's interactive.

I have created a 'expect' script to drive the tace program to
parse rawdata update files but it fails to update the database. I think its
something to do with pawning a new shell???

expect script:

#!/packages/expect/bin/expect

set env(ACEDB) /packages/mbx/ACeDB
set env(DBDIR) /packages/mbx/ACeDB/database
spawn $env(ACEDB)/bin.SOLARIS/tace

expect {acedb >} { send " ?\r"}
expect {acedb >} { send "parse /packages/mbx/ACeDB/rawdata/update.3-1\r"}
expect {acedb >} { send "quit\r"}



The '?' or help works.

The parse runs but fails to update DB.

The 'quit' works.

What am l doing wrong?



Is it possible to run tace via options list? i.e tace -parse filename


Regards,
Dilip Tailor
HGMP-RC

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews")
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Subject: Re:  ACeDB data update via cron/expect/tace
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> dtailor@crc.ac.uk says:
> I wish to update ACeDB databases via cron jobs and not via interactive means.
> Has anyone attempted to do this?

Hi Dilip, I do this by sending tace the commands via the csh "<<" operator.
(Not my idea, I saw other people using it.)  E.g.:

   #!/bin/csh
   # ~/ggscrps/loadace, DEM 7/22/94
   # "loadace <file>" loads ~/xgraingenes/rawdata/<file> into the database.

   echo Loading file $file

   /home/grains/textxgg <<DONE
   parse /home/grains/xgraingenes/rawdata/$file
   quit
   DONE

, where /home/grains/textxgg is a script that sets $ACEDB and invokes tace.

regards,
- Dave
P

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 02 23:00:00 1994
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Dilip Tailor writes:
 > 
 > Hello,
 > 
 > 
 > I wish to update ACeDB databases via cron jobs and not via interactive means.
 > Has anyone attempted to do this?
 > 

I use a commands file to achieve this.

My command file looks like this:

Parse /home/myfile.ace
Find Authors
List


Then, I invoke tace this way:

tace < commandFile

This loads the data in, and saves it when upon exit.

Thanks,

--
pradeep

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Oct 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: taka@nihs.nihs.go.jp (Takako Igarashi)
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Subject: Windows version
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Hello!

Do you have any plan to produce Windows version of 
the acedb? 

And if anyone plans to produce Japanese version,   
or any other language versions of the acedb, please 
tell me about your plan. 

Thank you for your attention to this mail.

Takako Igarashi

National Institute of Health Sciences
taka@nihs.go.jp

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This is a test. Please ignore.
George Edick
RPI - Dept. Biology
Troy, NY  12180
edickg@rpi.edu  

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 05 23:00:00 1994
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From: dbaillie@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca (David L. Baillie)
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taka@nihs.nihs.go.jp (Takako Igarashi) writes:


>Hello!

>Do you have any plan to produce Windows version of 
>the acedb? 

Takako

I do not know of any port to MS windows, although there have been romours of 
a windows NT port (MAYBE).  If you want to run ACeDB on a Intel machine,
try the LINUX port that Ken Clark has done, the 2.0 port is on ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
in /repository/acedb/ace2

You have to set up a linux OS on your machine, but it can share disk with
DOS, and OS2.  The machine must be a 486 or highher for good performance
and must have 12 -16 mb of RAM.  Linux and ACeDB eat up  about 150 mb of
disk space with the C. e.  data set.  

Also we run the power MAC version of ACeDB, it runs fine, but also needs 16 mb
of RAM and works about the same as the Linux version on a comparable processor.

dave baillie

ps a BSD unix port was also done by Ken Clark, if that is of use let me know.
	It's ace 2.0 again.
pps we will not do a port of ace3, but plan to port ace4 when it is available.
.

>And if anyone plans to produce Japanese version,   
>or any other language versions of the acedb, please 
>tell me about your plan. 

>Thank you for your attention to this mail.

>Takako Igarashi

>National Institute of Health Sciences
>taka@nihs.go.jp

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Subject: Problems with 2-x on Solaris
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Colleagues, 
we are still troubled on a Sparcstation which we try to maintain via network. 
The memory allocation failure I reported earlier on Solaris 4.1 still occured
after upgrading the machine to 96 MB physical memory, and reloading the 
binaries. As there is no GCC installed recompilation is not an option. There-
fore I installed everything from sratch (starting with 2-0) and surprisingly
got an error in 2-8 stating 'internal system error: parse error near line 
61557 in B0248: Unknown tag "Overlap_right"'. Aligning the maps manually 
gives a bus error. 

Any ideas and suggestions? The disk has 115 MB free, so disk space should
not be a problem. 

Regards
Reinhard Doelz
for University Fribourg, Switzerland.





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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: taka@nihs.nihs.go.jp (Takako Igarashi)
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Subject: Greek letters
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Hello,

I would like to use Greek letters in ACEDB. 
Is it possible? 

Thank you for your attention to this mail. 

Takako Igarashi

National Institute of Health Sciences
taka@nihs.go.jp

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sat Oct 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Subject: [SUMMARY] Solving Problems with 2-x on Solaris
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Thanks to all who replied. Key answers are summarized below. 

Reinhard Doelz (doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch) wrote:
: we are still troubled on a Sparcstation which we try to maintain via network. 
: The memory allocation failure I reported earlier on Solaris 4.1 still occured
[...]
: got an error in 2-8 stating 'internal system error: parse error near line 
: 61557 in B0248: Unknown tag "Overlap_right"'. Aligning the maps manually 
: gives a bus error. 

|> -Cyrus Harmon
|> sly@fly2.berkeley.edu

suggested to change the cachesize in wspec/cache.wrm. The parameter 
2048 for both caches proved to solve the memory allocation error. 
The software-set value of 4000 did not work. 

|> Tohru Sano
|> sano@kirara.exp.cl.nec.co.jp

suggested that the INSTALL script was an old one. actually, the solution 
to the problem with missing elements came 

|> From: " (Richard Durbin)" <rd@mrc-molecular-biology.cambridge.ac.uk>
|> 
|> You are not using the 2-14 wspec/.  Each update comes with its own wspec/
|> directory, and they evolve with time, so while you can read early updates
|> with later wspec/'s, you can't do the opposite.  The first version of
|> INSTALL untarred in alphabetical order, so update.2-2 overwrote update.2-14.
|> INSTALL scripts since 2-10 have done things in the numerical order.  Anyway,
|> you just need to untar wspec from update.2-14.tar.Z to cure your 
|> Overlap_right problem.


The update ended in a bus error, which could be repaired using advice 
From letter 2-14: 
: After adding the update, as the administrator (the person who
: installed ACEDB)
:        Select "Write Access" from the main menu
:        Select "Align Maps" from the main menu
:        Press the "Make pMaps" button to make the physical maps
:        Press the "Make gMaps" button to make the genetic maps
:        Select "Save" from the main menu.

If I dare hitting 'Make cMaps' as well I get a Segmentation fault 
which I am not sure whether this is the expected behaviour. 







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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Oct 10 23:00:00 1994
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From: kr5205@u.cc.utah.edu (Kerry Rowe)
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I have built a database using ACEDB 3.0 where I have defined an STS object
in models.wrm that should work like a Locus on the genetic and physical
maps (i.e., it should be displayed the way any other Locus would be). 
This works fine (the STSs are displayed on the map) unti I...
	1.  place them on more than one map; then they are displayed on 
	    only the first map on which they are defined to reside and are
	    missing from others.
	2.  ask that the maps be "Recalculated"; afterward they disappear.
	3.  add Locus objects to the map; then all my STSs disappear.

Can someone please tell me how to fix this?  Please respond directly to the
newsgroup or to the following email address:

	bayer@darwin.med.utah.edu

Thanks in advance.

bayer

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Oct 10 23:00:00 1994
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From: acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng)
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Subject: Must read's for acedb programmer
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Hello,

I am considering to install a database using Acedb but wanting
to make it a client-server type database, i.e. frontend display
running on one machine while the database backend sits on another.
Can you recommend some documents/papers/guides/etc that describe
Acedb that I should read first before hacking the code like a fool?

Thanks in advance.

=Albert Cheng

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Oct 11 23:00:00 1994
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In article <37ep72$bd1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng) writes:
> ...
>Can you recommend some documents/papers/guides/etc that describe
>Acedb


From the ACEDB FAQ:
    The latest text version of the ACEDB FAQ should be available via
    anonymous ftp at machine net.bio.net as file pub/BIOSCI/ACEDB/ACEDB.FAQ
    or at rtfm.mit.edu as pub/usenet/news.answers/acedb-faq.
    If you only have electronic mail, the FAQ can be retrieved from
    mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu.

    There is an HyperText Markup Language (HTML) version of this
    document available on the World Wide Web:
        http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/acedbfaq.html
        http://s27w007.pswfs.gov/Homepage/acedbfaq.html

And there will be a new FAQ posted here about the 6th of each month
(we're running late this month.)

    --bks

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Oct 11 23:00:00 1994
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From: nrd@scrapie.med.umn.edu (Neal Dalton)
Subject: Conversion tools for ACeDB
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I have been scrounging for tools to convert various formats, I'm still
looking for a medline to ACeDB converter.  I was surprised that this
wasn't a FAQ, may this can be used to add a new one.

They may need some changes, since databases vary.  If there are better
locations or other utilities, please let me know.  I will post a
summary.

At ftp://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/acedb_dev/utilities I found

  blast2ace - Converts NCBI blast email server format
  gb2ace    - Comvert GenBank format (there are 2)
  mapm2ace  - Converts Mapmaker "map" or "print chromosomes"
  sortpmap  - Constructs physical map contigs in text
  ace2go    - Dumps classes from ACeDB and waisindexing the .ace-format

  ace2nal   - Translate Data from ACeDB Database to Relational Tables


At ftp://igd-ftp.dkfz-heidelberg.de/pub/igd-ted

  opm2aces  - OPM (Oject-Protocol Model) to ACeDB

  ace2eers  - Experimental translates ACeDB model files to .erd for ERDRAW

Neal

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Summary: Frequently Asked Questions about finding and getting
 started with the database system ACEDB.  ACEDB is used
 to collect information regarding the molecular biology
 of the genome.
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    Common Questions, with Answers, about ACEDB.

   
Q0:  What is ACEDB? 
Q1:  What is the current version of ACEDB? 
Q2:  What hardware/software do I need to run ACEDB? 
Q3:  Where can I get ACEDB? 
Q4:  What ACEDB databases exist? 
Q5:  What written documentation exists for ACEDB? 
Q6:  Where can I find further information about ACEDB? 
Q7:  How should ACEDB be cited? 
Q8:  Is ACEDB object-oriented? 
Q9:  What's all this about Gopher|WAIS|ftp|WWW|URL ... 
Q10: How can I get on/off the ACEDB announcements mailing list? 
Q11: When and where is the next ACEDB Workshop? 
Q411: Who prepared this document & where is the current version? 
  
    Questions marked with + are new, those with !
    have substantially changed answers.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Q0:  What is ACEDB?


A0:  ACEDB is an acronym for A Caenorhabditis elegans Database.  It can
     refer to a database and data concerning the nematode C. elegans,
     or to the database software alone.  This document is concerned
     primarily with the latter meaning.  ACEDB is being adapted by many
     groups to organize molecular biology data about the genomes of
     diverse species [see Q4].

     ACEDB allows for automatic cross-referencing of items during
     loading and allows for hypertextual navigation of the links
     using a graphical user interface and mouse.  Certain special
     purpose graphical displays have been integrated into the
     software.  These reflect the needs of molecular biologists
     in constructing genetic and physical maps of genomes.

     ACEDB was written and developed by Richard Durbin (MRC LMB
     Cambridge, England) and Jean Thierry-Mieg (CNRS, Montpellier,
     France), beginning circa 1990.  It is written in the C programming
     language and uses the X11 windowing system to provide a platform
     independent graphical user interface.  The source code is publicly
     available [See Q3].  Durbin & Thierry-Mieg continue to develop
     the system, with contributions from other groups including
     Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory and the European integrated Genome
     Project.

     A description by Durbin & Thierry-Mieg:
         ACEDB does not use an underlying relational database
         schema, but a system we wrote ourselves in which data
         are stored in objects that belong in classes.  This is
         nevertheless a general database management system using
         caches, session control, and a powerful query language.
         Typical objects are clones, genes, alleles, papers,
         sequences, etc.  Each object is stored as a tree,
         following a hierarchical structure for the class (called
         the "model").  Maps are derived from data stored in tree
         objects, but precomputed and stored as tables for
         efficiency.  The system of models allows flexibility
         and efficiency of storage -missing data are not stored.
         A major advantage is that the models can be extended
         and refined without invalidating an existing database.
         Comments can be added to any node of an object.

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Q1:  What is the current version of ACEDB?


A1: [This answer refers to the software not the C. elegans data.]
    Currently there are two threads of the ACEDB kernel: the
    2.x series which represents the C. elegans project under
    the tutelage of Richard Durbin, and the 3.x series from
    Jean Thierry-Mieg.  However, the differences in the code
    are slight and the two authors committed to a single
    kernel at the ACEDB workshop in July, 1994.  The most
    recent release is an experimental version 3.3 which 
    is available from the repositories.

     A Macintosh version is available as version 2.0b4.

     To retrieve the software see Q3.

     To be kept informed of new releases see Q10.


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Q2:  What hardware/software do I need to run ACEDB?


A2:

     Unix and X11:
        
         Sun/SunOS 4.x
         Sun/Solaris
         DEC  DECstation3100, 5100 etc.
         DEC  Alpha/OSF-1
         Silicon Graphics Iris series
         PC 386/486 with Linux (free Unix)
             [note from Jeff Bryer, jbryer@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca]
             I just installed up Linux yesterday and today spent
             the many hours to compile in the C. elegans data for
             ACEDB v2.0  So to save other people the trouble of
             doing the same the entire package ACEDB for Linux 2-10
             is available on trog.mbb.sfu.ca in /pub/acedb as
             linux.2_10.tar.Z
              The data was compiled in on a 486DX-33 with 16MBs of
             RAM running Linux 1.1.18 (Slackware 2.0.0 distribution)
             and a 32MB swap device (and it chugged away for a couple
             hours chewing up all 16MBs and half the swap space).
             File size is about 73MBs uncompressed, 26MBs compressed.
              This is based on the ACEDB v2.0 port for Linux that Ken
             Clark (ken@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca) did.
         There exist, or have existed, ports onto Alliant, Hewlett-
           Packard, IBM R6000, Convex.   You may have to contact
           the developer responsible for the port to make these real.
         NeXT: contact Patrick Phillips at University of Texas,
           NeXTmail: patrick@wbar.uta.edu
              email: phil@decster.uta.edu
         
    MSDOS/Windows/NT:
         
        A port to NT is rumored to be in the works.
         
    Macintosh:
         [Contributed by Frank Eeckman]
         Macace is distributed as a self-extracting archive that contains
         the application, the wspec files, and a fully up to date
         database.  macace 3.0 is available with an updated 21bdb
         database.  Please send all questions/bug reports to
         eeckman@llnl.gov A native powerPC version is available as
         well.  Macace needs a macintosh with > 16 MBytes of RAM,
         and a decent color monitor is preferred. System 7 or
         greater is required. For the multimedia extensions Quicktime
         1.0 is required.  Please add your name to our mailing list by
         sending email to eeckman@llnl.gov.
         It is our belief that for cost savings a powerPC mac will beat
         the advertised linux-intel combination.
         Macace is fully compatible with xace, but includes some
         multimedia extensions (picture and movie support) not found
         in the unix versions.


     To retrieve the software see Q3.

    For cost savings, a combination of a high-end Intel platform
    with Linux appears very attractive. [Though the port does
    not seem robust, yet --bks]

    Here at the Institute of Forest Genetics we run ACEDB on a 
    Sun Microsystems SPARCstation II, and users can interact
    using Macintoshes and PC-clones by using X11 implementations
    for the personal computers and a LAN.

    X11 fonts note: ACEDB uses fonts listed in the xfonts.wrm
    file.  If you install new fonts on your machine be sure to
    run bldfamily(1) so that they are available.
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Q3:  Where can I get ACEDB?


A3:  All the files are available in the following public access
     accounts (anonymous ftp sites) accessible via Internet:
        
        
        lirmm.lirmm.fr (193.49.104.10) in pub/acedb
        
        
        cele.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (131.111.84.1) in pub/acedb
        
        
        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (130.14.20.1) in repository/acedb
        
        
        bioinformatics.weizmann.ac.il (132.76.55.12) in
            pub/databases/acedb.
        
        
        
        MacAce is available from:
        
        genome.lbl.gov
             (131.243.224.80) in pub/macace 
        
             cele.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (131.111.84.1) in pub/acedb/macace 
        
        
        Linux; ACEDB version 2.0 for Linux 2-10:
        
        trog.mbb.sfu.ca /pub/acedb as linux.2_10.tar.Z 


    A typical session would be: 
        ftp ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
        login: anonymous
        password: your email address
        cd repository/acedb/ace3
        binary
        ls
        get README_3
        get NOTES
        get INSTALL
        get bin.sparc.3.0.tar.Z
        quit
        

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Q4:  What ACEDB databases exist?


A4:  [In alphabetic order by Database name.
         Curators, submit changes as new paragraphs.--bks]

     Database : AAnDB-1.0
     Species : Aspergillus nidulans
     PI : Leland Ellis
     Last_update : February 1994
     ACEDB_version : 3.0
     Contact : leland@stralight.tamu.edu
      URL : http://keck.tamu.edu/ibt.html 
     Comment : defunct, See AGsDB

     Database : AAtDB
     Species : Arabidopsis thaliana
     Current version : 3-3
     Last_update : June 1994
     Curator : John Morris
     Contact : curator@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu
     Availability :  ftp weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/aatdb/aatdb.3x
     Availability :  Macintosh version in /aatdb/MacAAtDB directory 
     URL :  gopher://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/
     URL :  http://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu:80/index.html 

     Database : ABtDB-1.0
     Species : Bovine, Bos taurus
     ACEDB_version : 3.0 extended
     PI : Leland Ellis
     Last_update : February 1994
     Contact : leland@stralight.tamu.edu
     URL : http://keck.tamu.edu/ibt.html
     Comment : defunct, See AGsDB

     Database : AboutDB
     Curator : Staffan Bergh
     PI : Staffan Bergh
     Subject : ACEDB itself (Is this meta-meta-metadata)
     ACEDB 3.0
     Contact : staffan@biochem.kth.se
      URL http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/AboutDB.html 

     Database : ACeDB
     Species : Caenorhabditis elegans
     Current version: 2-10
     Curator : Jean Thierry-Mieg
     Curator : Richard Durbin
     Contact : rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
     Contact : mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr
     Last_update : May 1994

     DataBase : AceMap
     Species : Homo sapiens (Mus musculus under development)
     Focus : Physical mapping of human chromsome X and 21
     ACEDB_version : 3.0
     Curator : Hugues Roest Crollius
     PI : Hans Lehrach
     Availability : beta release of the X chr. data/models by
         anonymous ftp to
          ftp.icnet.uk in icrf-public/GenomeAnalysis/X/acemap. Get the README 
         file in the directory above.
     Contact : hrc@gea.lif.icnet.uk (Hugues Roest Crollius)
            ICRF, Lincoln's Inn Fields London, UK.
     Last_update : August 94

     Database : AGsDB  A Genus species Database
     Species : Aspergillus nidulans
     Species : Neurospora crassa
     Species : cow w/ human anchor loci
     Species : cotton (demo)
     Species : Homologs of Aspergillus cell cycle loci
               for budding and fission yeast
     PI : Leland Ellis
     Curator : Leland Ellis
     Last_update : March 1994
     ACeDB_version : 3.0 (beta still), with extensions to the Human
             C21 Models to provide for multiple species, and queries
             between species via Homologs (e.g., cell cycle loci with
             links via Homologs between Aspergillus and budding 
             C. cerevisiae) and fission (S. pombe) yeast);
             interacting loci via defined Interactions for each locus
     Models : as of 3.13.94
     Data : as of 3.13.94
     Revision :  AAnDB for Aspergillus nidulans and ABtDB for
             Bos taurus (cow) have been folded into AGsDB, and are
             not being developed futher as individual species databases.
     WWW : WWW-AGsDB is an interface of AGsDB with the World-Wide
             Web, and utilizes the WWW-ACeDB Server (nph-acedb3) of
             Guy Ducoux (ducoux@moulon.inra.fr).
     URL : http://keck.tamu.edu/ibt.html
     Contact : leland@straylight.tamu.edu

     Database : ChlamyDB
     Species : Chlamydomonas
     PI : Elizabeth Harris
     Contact : mps2@acpub.duke.edu
     Curator : Maulin P. Shah
     Availability : Under development (Est. Sept. 94)
     Last_update : 30 Sept. 1993

    Database : CottonDB
    Species : Gossypium hirsutum (cotton)
    PI : Russell J. Kohel
           USDA-ARS
           Southern Crops Research Laboratory
           Route 5, Box 805, College Station, Texas 77845
    Curator : Gerard R. Lazo
    Curator : Sridhar Madhavan
    Last_update : July, 1994
    ACEDB_version : 3.0
    Contact : rjk0339@zeus.tamu.edu (Russell Kohel)
    Contact : lazo@genome.tamu.edu (Gerard Lazo)
    Availability : still under construction
    Phone : 409-260-9311
    Fax : 409-260-9333

     Database : CSNDB
     Focus : Cell Signalling Molecules and Interactions
     Contact : Takako Igarashi
              National Insitute of Health Sciences
              Division of Chem-Bio Informatics
              Setagaya-ku, Tokyo, Japan 158
              taka@nihs.go.jp

     Database : EcoDB
     Species : E. coli
     PI : Staffan Bergh
     Contact : staffan@biochem.kth.se
     Availability : Still under construction
     Last_update : Aug. 1994

     Database : 11DB
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : Physical mapping of chromosome 11
     Availability : under development
     Curator : Benedict Arnold
     PI : Peter Little
     Contact : Benedict Arnold
             Dept. Biochemistry,
             Imperial College,
             London, SW7 2AZ
             b.arnold@ic.ac.uk

    Database : The Encyclopaedia of the Drosophila Genome.
    Acronym : (none)
    Species : Drosophilidae (primarily D. melanogaster)
    Availability : MacFly/FlyDB-based distribution by ftp and CD-ROM due early 1995
    Developer : Suzanna Lewis
    Contact : suzi@fly2.berkeley.edu
    Developer : Cyrus Harmon
    Contact : sly@fly2.berkeley.edu
    Developer : Edward Welbourne
    Contact : eddy@gen.cam.ac.uk
    Curation : Data is provided by the collaborating organisations:
    Collaborator : The FlyBase Consortium, flybase@morgan.harvard.edu
    Collaborator : The Berkeley Drosophila Genome Project
    URL :  gopher://fly.bio.indiana.edu:70+/11/Flybase 

     Database : Flydb
     Species : Drosophila melanogaster
     Curator : Suzanna Lewis
     Contact : suzi@fly2.berkeley.edu

     Database : GrainGenes
     Species : Wheat, barley, oats, relatives
     Availability : Anonymous ftp from probe.nalusda.gov:pub/grains
     Availability : Gopher greengenes.cit.cornell.edu port 70
     Availability : Gopher probe.nalusda.gov port 7002
     Curator : David E. Matthews
     PI : Olin D. Anderson
     Contact : matthews@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu
     Contact : oandersn@wheat.usda.gov
     URL : gopher://greengenes.cit.cornell.edu/1/
     Data_version : 1.3
     Released : 12 Jan 1994
     Based_on : acedb.1-10
     Availability : See following WWW URL
     URL :  http://probe.nalusda.gov:8300
     Last_update : Feb. 1994

     Database : human.c17
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Availability :  the database is under development
     Contact : lsprilus@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il
     Focus :  mapping & sequencing of Human Chromosome 17
     Based_on: acedb.3-0
     Last_update : Jan. 1994

     Database : IGD - the Integrated Genomic Database
     Species : Homo sapiens (later mouse and other mammalian species)
     Availability : September 1994 by ftp, on-line server October 1994
     Contact : Otto Ritter  [ o.ritter@dkfz-heidelberg.de ]
     Curator : tba
     Description : IGD - the Integrated Genomic Database -
             aims to integrate multiple public general molecular
             biology and human genome specific databases into single
             logical database with unified interface to existing
             analysis tools.

     Database : LIGM-DB
     Curator : Veronique Giudicelli
     Focus : genetic and physical mapping of loci of Immunoglobulins and Tcell receptors
     PI : Marie_paule Lefranc
     Contact : Veronique Giudicelli
             LIGM IGMM UMR CNRS 9942
             BP 5051 Rte de Mende
             34000 Montpellier
             giudi@ligm.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr

     Database : Maize
     Species : Zea mays L. ssp. mays
     Focus : Maize genome
     Acedb_version : 1.9
     FTP : probe.nalusda.gov, pub directory; anonymous ftp
     Comment : Maize is an acedb front end for the Maize Genome 
             Database, MaizeDB, a SYBASE database.
     Comment : MaizeDB is updated daily and has WWW connectivity
             to external databases: GenBank (loci, alleles and
             probes), SwissProt (gene products) and the E. coli
             Stock Center (loci).
     Data : Major data categories: 4522 mapped loci (located to
             chromosome or better) including 684 mapped genes and
             1423 mapped probed sites (gene candidates); 982
             probes; 1850 map scores; 1533 gel patterns
             (Probe/Enzyme/Stock); 4231 stocks; 5105 Variations
             (alleles, DNA polymorphisms, rearrangements, etc);
             465 phenotypes; 223 traits; 547 gene products;
             5314 bibliographic references; 1979 persons with
             addresses.
     Gopher : host = teosinte.agron.missouri.edu, port = 70
     Telnet :  telnet teosinte.agron.missouri.edu 
                  login as guest, use password 'corncob'
     HTTP :  http://teosinte.agron.missouri/top.html 
     HTTP : http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedbs/index.html
                via PGD, the Plant Genome Database
     Comment : Genera is a software toolkit for creating and
             extracting data from Sybase databases; used to
             create MaizeDB and Worldwide Web connectivity.
     HTTP : Genera Info  http://cgsc.biology.yale.edu/genera.html
     Funding : MaizeDB USDA/ARS to E. Coe
     Funding : Genera NSF BIR 92-01652 to S. Letovsky and M. Berlyn
     Curator/PI : Ed Coe ed@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Pat Byrne byrne@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Georgia Davis gdavis@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Mary Polacco  maryp@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Marty Sachs, Maize Stock Center,  msachs@uiuc.edu 
     Curator : Christiane Fauron  FAURON@GENE1.med.utah.edu
     Curator : Carolyn Wetzel cmwetzel@iastate.edu
     Curator : Steve Rodermel S1SRR@ISUVAX.IASTATE.EDU
     Design : Stan Letovsky letovsky-stan@CS.YALE.EDU
     Design : Mary Berlyn mary@fetalpig.biology.yale.edu
     Systems Manager :  Denis Hancock
                            dhancock@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Contact : db_request@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Last_update : 25 April 1994

     Database : MycDB
     Species : Mycobacteria
     Comment : MycDB is a collation of data on the mycobacteria,
             causative agents of tuberculosis and leprosy. It
             is centered on the mapping and sequencing projects
             under way in M.leprae and M.tuberculosis.
     PI : Staffan Bergh
     PI : Stewart Cole
     PI : Doug Smith
     Curator : Staffan Bergh
     Contact : staffan@biochem.kth.se
     Last_update : Apr. 1994
     WWW :  http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/MycDB.html
     WWW :  http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/MycDB.html
     ftp : ftp.pasteur.fr (157.99.64.12) in pub/MycDB
     ftp : kiev.physchem.kth.se (130.237.52.64) in pub/MycDB
     ftp : bioinformatics.weizmann.ac.il (132.76.55.12) in pub/databases/mycdb

     Database : PomBase
     Curator : Sean Walsh
     Curator :  Marie-Adele Rajendream
     PI : Bart Barrell
     Species : Schizosaccharomyces pombe
     Contact : svw@sanger.ac.uk
     Contact : barrell@sanger.ac.uk
     Comment : Not yet available for distribution

     Database : RiceGenes
     Species : Rice (O. sativa)
     Availability : Anonymous ftp from probe.nalusda.gov:pub/rice 
     Availability :  Gopher nightshade.cit.cornell.edu port 70 
     Availability :  Gopher probe.nalusda.gov port 7007 
     Curator : Edie Paul
     PI : Susah McCouch
     Contact : epaul@nightshade.cit.cornell.edu
     Release : ACEDB 1-10
     Last_update : May 1994

     Database : SacchDB
     Species : Saccharomyces cerevisiae
     Focus : Budding Yeast Genome
     Acedb_version : 2.0, MacAce
     FTP : genome-ftp.stanford.edu, not available yet.
     Comment : The database is in beta test by a small number of
          yeast labs. The WWW-ACEDB gateway version is
          currently available, see HTTP below. The Gopher
          server contains only the Olson restriction map
          information and views of the resulting Clone
          (Physical) Map.
     Data : Olson/Riles Physical Map, Mortimer Genetic Maps and
          Information, Sequences from GenBank, Gene/Clone
          associations using the Wash Univ. prime clone
          filters.
     Gopher : host = genome-gopher.stanford.edu, port = 70
     HTTP : URL http://genome-www.stanford.edu 
     Funding : National Center for Human Genome Research, NIH
     PI : David Botstein, botstein@genome.stanford.edu
     Project Manager/Curator : Mike Cherry, cherry@genome.stanford.edu
     Curator : Fred Dietrich, dietrich@genome.stanford.edu
     Curator : Selena Dwight, dwight@genome.stanford.edu
     Curator : Cathy Ball, ball@genome.stanford.edu
     Systems : Dan Mosedale, mosedale@genome.stanford.edu
     Contact : yeast-curator@genome.stanford.edu
     Data_Submission : yeast-curator@genome.stanford.edu
     Last_update : 9 August 1994

     Database : SolGenes
     Coverage: Solanaceae - tomato, potato, pepper
     Availability : Anonymous ftp from probe.nalusda.gov:pub/solgenes 
     Availability :  Gopher nightshade.cit.cornell.edu port 71 
     Availability :  Gopher probe.nalusda.gov port 7006 
     Curator : Edie Paul
     PI : Steve Tanksley
     Contact : epaul@nightshade.cit.cornell.edu
     Release : ACEDB 3.0
     Last_update : May 1994

     Database : SorghumDB
     Species : Sorghum bicolor (L.) Moench
     PI : Keith F. Schertz
              USDA-ARS
              Dept. of Soil & Crop Sciences
              Texas A&M University
              College Station, TX 77843-2474
              Phone : (409) 260-9252
              FAX : (409) 845-0456
              E_mail : schertz@tamvm1.tamu.edu
     Curator : Najeeb U. Siddiqui
              Southern Crop Improvement Facility
              Crop Biotechnology Center
              Texas A&M University
              College Station, TX 77843-2123
              Phone : (409) 862-1523
              FAX : (409) 862-4790
              E_mail : nus6389@tamsun.tamu.edu
     Last_update : July 1994
     ACEDB_version : 3.0
     Availability : Under Development

     Database : SoyBase
     Species : Soybeans
     Curator :  Lisa Lorenzen
     PI : Randy Shoemaker
     Contact : lorenzen@mendel.agron.iastate.edu
     Phone : 515-294-0421
     Fax : 515-294-2299
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : Sybace
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Creator : Detlef Wolf
     Comment : Custom software --ACEDB front-end to SYBASE data
     Contact : D.Wolf@dfkz-heidelberg.de
     See_also : IGD

     Database : TreeGenes
     Species : Forest trees
     Availability : alpha, contact curator
     ACEDB_version : 1-10
     Curator : Bradley K. Sherman
     PI : David B. Neale
     Contact : Dendrome@s27w007.pswfs.gov
     Contact : bks@s27w007.pswfs.gov
     Contact : dbn@s27w007.pswfs.gov
     Last_update : March 1994
     URL : gopher://s27w007.pswfs.gov/
     URL : http://s27w007.pswfs.gov/
     URL : ftp://probe.nalusda.gov/pub/trees

     Database : 21Bdb
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : STS content mapping & sequencing of Human Chromosome 21
     Availability : by request, via ftp, world-wide-web
     Based_on : acedb.1-10 plus moulon server
     URL : ftp://genome.lbl.gov/pub/21Bdb-v1.1.tar.Z
     URL : http://genome.lbl.gov/Genome/acepage.html
     Curator : Donn F. Davy
     Contact : DFDavy@lbl.gov
     Contact : aggarwal@genome.lbl.gov
     Focus : STS content mapping & sequencing of Human Chromosome 21
     PI : Michael Palazzolo
     PI : Chris Martin
     PI : Jan-Fang Cheng
     Last_update : Apr. 1994

     Database : 22ace
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Curator : Ian Dunham
     Focus : Physical mapping of chromosome 22
     PI : Ian Dunham
     Contact : Ian Dunham
             Sanger Centre
             Hinxton Hall,
             Cambs.  UK.
             id1@sanger.ac.uk

     Database : VoxPop
     Species : Populus spp.
     Availability : contact curator
     Curator : Carl G. Riches
     PI : Reinhard F. Stettler
     Contact : cgr@poplar1.cfr.washington.edu
     Contact : STETTLER@coyote.cfr.washington.edu
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : Xace
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Curator : Gareth Maslen
     Focus : Physical mapping of chromosome X
     PI : David Bentley
     Contact : Gareth Maslen
             Sanger Centre
             Hinxton Hall,
             Cambs.  UK.
             glm@sanger.ac.uk

     Database : ?
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : Physical mapping of human chromosome 6.
     Curator : Ioannis Ragoussis
     Availability : Unknown
     Contact : Guy's hospital

     Database : ?
     PI : Scott Chasalow
     Species : Potato
     Contact : Scottish Crop Institute, Dundee
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : ?
     PI : George Murphy
     PI : David Flanders
     Species : Arabidopsis thaliana
     Contact : John Innes Center, Norwich, England
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : ?
     Species : Homo Sapiens
     Focus : Physical and linkage mapping of chromosome 8
     Availability :
     Curator : Stephen Wood
     PI : Stephen Wood
     Contact : Stephen Wood
             Dept. Medical Genetics
             University of B. C.
             Vancouver, B. C.
             Canada
             swood@unixg.ubc.cq


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Q5:  What written documentation exists for ACEDB?


A5:
    From Sam Cartinhour:
       The ACEDB Documentation Server is a repository for
       documentation concerned with "A C. elegans Data Base",
       the generic genome database software designed by
       Richard Durbin (MRC, UK) and Jean Thierry-Mieg
       (CNRS, France). The server is intended as a resource
       for developers, curators, and end-users of all (not
       just plant) databases derived from ace. Eventually
       we hope to offer all kinds of documentation, from
       reprints to (technical) gossip.  The ACEDB
       documentation server is sponsored by the Plant Genome
       Database Project at the National Agricultural Library
       (USDA).  The documentation server is listed on the
       home page for the Agricultural Genome World Wide Web
       Server at http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000.

     Primary documents from the developers are:
         acedb -- A C. elegans Database: I. Users' Guide.
         acedb -- A C. elegans Database: II. Installation Guide.
         acedb -- A C. elegans Database: III. Configuration Guide.
         Syntactic Definitions for the ACEDB Data Base Manager
             --Jean Thierry-Mieg and Richard Durbin (1991-)
     
     Get By anonymous ftp from ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (130.14.20.1)
     in repository/acedb:
        ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/respository/acedb/doc*tar.Z
     And ftp://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/acedb_doc
     The files are in tex and postscript.  [I have had
     some difficulty printing these.  Jean Thierry-Mieg
     suggests latex xxxx.tex, dvi2ps xxxx.dvi > xxxx.ps, 
     lpr xxxx.ps.]

     You will find interesting documents in the wdoc
     subdirectory of the ACEDB distribution.

     The Australian National Genomic Information Service has prepared
     good documentation of the C. elegans version as
      Angisturte.ps and angistute.hqx 
     available by anonymous ftp at ncbi.hih.gov in repository/acedb/ace2.

     Cherry, J.M., Cartinhour, S.W., and Goodman, H.M. (1992) AAtDB,
     An Arabidopsis thaliana Database. Plant Molecular Biology Reporter
     10 (4): 308-309,409-410

     Tutorial manual for AAtDB:
     Cartinhour, S., Cherry, J.M., and Goodman, H.M. (1992) An
     Introduction to ACeDB: For AAtDB, An Arabidopsis thaliana
     Database. Massachusetts General Hospital. (Available on
     request in printed form from the AAtDB curator).

     A description of ACEDB:
     Cherry, J.M. and Cartinhour, S.W. (1994) ACEDB, A tool for
     biological information. in Automated DNA Sequencing and
     Analysis, edited by M.  Adams, C. Fields, and C. Venter.
     Academic Press, pages 347-356.  [text is available through
     ftp or gopher from weeds.mgh.harvard.edu]

     Another description of ACEDB for physical mapping projects:
     Dunham, I., Durbin, R., Mieg, J-T & Bentley, D.R. (1994)
     Physical mapping projects and ACEDB, in Guide to Human
     Genome Computing. Ed.  Bishop, M.J.  Academic Press,
     pages 111-158.  [text is available through ftp or
     gopher from weeds.mgh.harvard.edu]

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Q6:  Where can I find further information about ACEDB?


A6:  There is a Usenet/Biosci conference titled bionet.software.acedb.
     If you do not have access to the Biosci conferences via a
     newsreader (e.g. rn, trn, tin) you can participate in the conference
     by electronic mail.  To subscribe to the e-mail version of the
     conference send email to biosci-server@net.bio.net (UK, European
     readers use biosci@uk.ac.daresbury or biosci.daresbury.ac.uk) with
     no subject line and only the message
     
           subscribe ACEDB-SOFT
           
     in the body.  To unsubscribe send the message
     
           unsubscribe ACEDB-SOFT
           
     to the same address.
     This is an automated service.  Your e-mail address will be taken
     from the header of the message that you send.  If you then send
     mail to acedb@net.bio.net the mail will be distributed to all
     subscribers and to the electronic conference.
     All of the articles are archived on the gopher at net.bio.net.

     Mike Cherry has set up an ACEDB Developer's archive.  For
     anonymous ftp use the hostname weeds.mgh.harvard.edu and look in
     the acedb_dev directory. If you wish to contribute you can put
     files in the incoming directory.  Send a message to Mike
     (cherry@genome.stanford.edu) that you have put something in that
     directory then Mike will move it out for general access.
     For gopher you can connect to weeds.mgh.harvard.edu
     (132.183.190.21) and ...
     
        -->  N.  FTP Archives for Molecular Biology/
        
     then
     
        -->  M.  ACEDB Developer's archive/
        
     [N and M are integers which are subject to change.]

     The bionet.software. acedb.conference is archived and can be
     searched using WAIS.  Here is a Gopher-style link to the WAIS
     archive. (This is also courtesy of Mike Cherry.):
     
          #
          Type=7
          Name=ACEDB BioSci Electronic Conference
          Path=7/.index/acedb-biosci
          Host=genome-gopher.stanford.edu
          Port=70
     

     The AAtDB, Soybase, GrainGenes, Mace, and TreeGenes [see Q4]
     databases regularly submit data to the Plant Genome Database
     at the National Agricultural Library (NAL).  Nal makes this
     data available via the WWW using an http server with URL:
         
         http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/index.html
         
     You will also find a selection of models.wrm files (schemata)
     for the various databases here.  You will want to get a
     "mosaic client" to examine this.

     AboutDB is a stab at an integrated info and project tracking database
     for the 'Greater ACEDB Community'. It was conceived and implemented by
     Staffan Bergh (staffan@biochem.kth.se), the 'coordinator', during the
     ace94 workshop in Montpellier, based on an earlier effort by John
     McCarthy. The aim is to collect information on all aspects of ACEDB
     use as a database manager. Currently it contains information on
     Databases implemented in ACEDB, Colleagues in the community, some
     Tools for >curators of ACEDB databases and some of the information
     on 'magic tags' collected during the ace94 workshop.
     AboutDB can be reached at URL: http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/AboutDB.html

     Other URL's that readers with mosaic clients might want to
     examine are:
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb/acedb.html for C. elegans data
        
        
        http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/MycDB.html for Mycobacterium data 
        
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr:8001/acedb/igd.html for an integrated
            genome database.
        
        

     For information on how these were created see
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb_conf_eng.html
        
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb_conf.html (en francais)
        

     The Genome Computing Group, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
     has an anonymous ftp service at machine genome.lbl.gov
     (131.243.224.80) which contains: 
          flydb - LBL's Drosophila Acedb-style database
          21bdb - LBL's Human Chromosome 21 Acedb-style database
          querdb - LBL's query-language extensions to Acedb 
          metadata - LBL's compendium of Acedb database schema variants
          macace-aatdb-demo.hqx  -  pre-release Acedb MacIntosh version
          There is also a repository of contributed software for
          data conversions and the like.
          

     [From Otto Ritter]
     IGD - the Integrated Genomic Database - is an international
     project of DKFZ, Heidelberg (Germany), CNRS, Montpellier
     (France), ICRF, London (UK), LBL, Berkeley (USA), and MRC,
     London/Cambridge, (UK). IGD is an extensible object-oriented
     distributed information management system with one global schema, 
     physical data integration at the back-end, and local data
     management at the front-end. It supports local schema evolution
     and local data integration, and has a potential for truly virtual
     "on-the-fly" integration (federation) of its resource databases.
     Beside data integration, IGD provides graphical user interface, 
     client/server communication, and seamless interface to a growing
     number of tools for structure, sequence, genetic, physical and
     comparative mapping analysis. ACEDB is the IGD main software
     component for data management.  As a database, IGD integrates
     and references genome related data from public sources. As an
     analysis tool,  IGD provides uniform interface to existing
     programs and program packages for tructure and sequence
     analysis, genetic and physical map construction and analysis,
     etc.  In addition to the major human and mouse databases already
     planned SWISS-PROT/PIR, PDB, GDB, OMIM, CitDB, CEPH, CHLC,
     CEPH-Genethon, Genbase, UK DNA ProbeBank, RLDB2, CAD, MGD,
     MouseBackcross DB), crossreferences will be maintained to
     dataabases established around specific model organisms
     (C.elegans, D. melanogaster, S. cerevisiae,  pombe etc.).
      Refs:
      
       1/ Ritter,O.: The Integrated Genomic Database. in Computational
           Methods in Genome Research, edited by S.Suhai, Plenum,
           57-73 (1994).
       2/ Ritter,O., Kocab,P., Senger,M., Wolf,D., and Suhai,S.:
           Prototype Implementation of the Integrated Genomic
           Database, Computers and Biomedical Research, 27, 97-115 (1994)
     

     Computer staff for the UC Berkeley Drosophila physical mapping
     project the LBL Human Chromosome 21 project, and the LBL plant
     genome projects meet regularly to coordinate their ACEDB
     extension and development efforts, along with Frank Eeckman,
     who is working on the Macintosh version of ACEDB (for further
     information, contact jlmccarthy@lbl.gov). They also keep in
     close touch (via email, personal visits, etc.) with their
     counterparts in Cambridge (Richard Durbin et al), Montpellier 
     Jean Thierry-Mieg et al), and the Interated Genome Database
     project in Heidelburg (Otto Ritter, Detlef Wolf et al).

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Q7:  How should ACEDB be cited?


A7:  From the distribution:

        We realize that we have not yet published any "real" paper on
        ACEDB.  We consider however that anonymous ftp servers are a
        form of publication. We would appreciate if users of ACEDB
        could quote:
            Richard Durbin and Jean Thierry Mieg (1991-). A C. elegans
            Database.  Documentation, code and data available from
            anonymous FTP servers at lirmm.lirmm.fr,
            cele.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk and  ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.

        Papers involved in database development could quote more
        precisely:
           I.   Users' Guide. Included as part of the ACEDB distribution
         kit,
           II.  Installation Guide. Included as part of the ACEDB
         distribution
           III. Configuration Guide. Included as part of the ACEDB
         distribution

        and the preprintkit, available by Anonymous FTP from ...
           Jean Thierry-Mieg and Richard Durbin (1992). Syntactic
           Definitions for the ACEDB Data Base Manager. Included as
           part of the ACEDB distribution.

             --Jean and Richard.

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Q8: Is ACEDB object-oriented?


A8: From the ACEDB User's Guide.

    A major current vogue in computer languages and database design
    is for ``object-oriented'' systems.  It's also a source of lots
    of argument.  We are just trying to build a good system, and
    don't want to get caught in the crossfire, but we do talk about
    organising our data into objects and classes.  We have undoubtedly
    been influenced by many of the ideas going around, but it isn't
    likely our system would be regarded as kosher by the object-
    oriented community.  In particular there is no class hierarchy, nor
    inheritance, and it is written in a modular but non-ideological way
    in straight C. However display and disk storage methods are class
    dependent.

    In some ways the class hierarchy is replaced by our system of
    models and trees, which seems to be rather unusual.  We think it
    is very natural for the representation of biological information,
    where for some members of a class a lot might be known about some
    aspect, but for most only a little is known.

    The advantages of our sytem over a relational database, such as
    Oracle or Sybase, is our ability to refine our descriptions without
    rebuilding the database and the possibility of organising the
    storage of data on disk according to their class, i.e. we store in
    a very different way the tree-objects and the long stretches of
    DNA sequence.

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Q9:  What's all this about Gopher/WAIS/ftp/WWW ...


A9:  These terms all refer to Internet protocols.
     An excellent introduction to the Internet is:
       _The Whole Internet User's Guide & Catalog_,
       by Ed Krol, O'Reilly & Associates, 1992.
     Or ask your system administrator to provide you with
     a gopher client or mosaic client and begin navigating
     on your own. 

     URL is a Universal Resource Locator on the World-Wide
     Web (WWW).  There are many free Internet browsers
     available that allow you to use an Internet connection
     and a URL to access services.  Mosaic may be the
     most popular and it is available for Mac, PC or Unix
     via anonymous ftp from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu.

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Q10: How can I get on/off the ACEDB announcements mailing list?


A10: To get on or off the mailing list send mail to
     rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk or mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr.
     New releases of the software are announced to this
     list and very little else.  The  BIOSCI newsgroup
     bionet.software.acedb is on the mailing list.

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Q11: When and where is the Next ACEDB Workshop?


    In planning, California 1995.
    [Contact information to appear here. --bks]

    If you would like to see some pictures of the
    ACEDB '94 Workshop in St. Matthieu de Treviers taken by Mike
    Cherry with the camera on an SGI workstation, the URL is: 
    http://genome-www.stanford.edu/~cherry/pics/acedb-94.pics.html.
    John Morris has provided some more at URL: 
    http://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/ace94/ace94.image.html.

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Q411:Who prepared this document & where is the current version?


    [Note to international readers: 411 is the phone number for
    information in the USA. --bks]

    This document will be posted monthly to the BIOSCI newsgroup
    bionet.software.acedb and to USENET conference news.answers.
    It is intended to be used as an index to ACEDB databases and
    to information about the database software.

    The latest text version of the ACEDB FAQ should be available via
    anonymous ftp at machine
    
    net.bio.net
    as file
    pub/BIOSCI/ACEDB/ACEDB.FAQ or at
    rtfm.mit.edu as pub/usenet/news.answers/acedb-faq. Answer 3
    demonstrates a sample FTP session.  If you only have
    electronic mail, the FAQ can be retrieved from
    mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu.

    There is an HyperText Markup Language (HTML) version of this
    document available on the World Wide Web:
        http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/acedbfaq.html
        http://s27w007.pswfs.gov/Homepage/acedbfaq.html

    Curators of ACEDB databases should take note of Question 4 and
    keep me apprised of changes.

    Errors of commission or omission are unintentional.  If I have
    forgotten to give you credit please let me know.  Please
    send comments and corrections to: acedbfaq@s27w007.pswfs.gov

    Major contributions in getting this FAQ off the ground
    were made by John McCarthy and Mike Cherry.  Other
    contributors include:

        Lisa Lorenzen
        David Matthews
        Edie Paul
        Donn Davy
        Eric De Mund
        Sam Cartinhour


    Please cite as:
    Sherman,B.K., ACEDB Genome Database Software FAQ,
    ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/acedb-faq,
    http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/acedbfaq.html,
    1993,1994, approx. 50K bytes.

    To add or modify information in this document, please
    send mail to: acedbfaq@s27w007.pswfs.gov

      
      Bradley K. Sherman
      Dendrome Project                
      Institute of Forest Genetics    
      P.O. Box 245, Berkeley, CA, 94701
      Phone: 510-559-6437 Fax: 510-559-6440  
      

    The Dendrome Project and TreeGenes are funded by the
    USDA ARS Plant Genome Research Program.

          --bks
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 12 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews
From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews")
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Beware of type Text!
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I just figured out a bug in GrainGenes that's plagued me for many months.
Since March I've been unable to reload the database from a full dump.  I
had to load it from my original .ace files, and I had to load them in a 
particular order.  If I didn't the usual error message was 

  !!FATAL ERROR: system error 12 Not enough memory
  malloc failure in messalloc: requesting 29360128 bytes

, though there were others, especially

  !! FATAL ERROR 0: !! Bnew node : block overflow

The results were the same for ace1-10 through ace3.1, under SunOS, Solaris
and Linux.

On further investigation I found that there were certain objects in the
database to which no new data could be added.  No additional links,
directly or by XREF, not even an additional few characters of Text.  Such
objects were found in at least three of my classes, Gene, Gene_Class and
Gene_Set.  Here is one of them.

Gene_Set : "Glu-1"
Reference	 "TAG-60-229"
Reference	 "WGS-83-827"
Reference	 "JCS-3-17"
Reference	 "TAG-13-6833"
Reference	 "NAR-13-8729"
Reference	 "NAR-13-6817"
Reference	 "TAG-67-87"
Reference	 "BCG-24-579"
Reference	 "WGP-84-111"
Reference	 "TAG-75-651"
Gene_class	 "Glutenins"
Gene	 "Glu-D1 (Triticum)"
Gene	 "Glu-A1 (Triticum)"
Gene	 "Glu-B1 (Triticum)"
Gene	 "Glu-E1 (Elytrigia)"
Gene	 "Glu-H1 (Hordeum)"
Gene	 "Glu-H^ch^1 (Hordeum)"
Gene	 "Glu-R1 (Secale)"
Gene	 "Glu-R^m^1 (Secale)"
Gene	 "Glu-U1 (Aegilops)"
Gene	 "Glu-V1 (Dasypyrum)"
Gene	 "Glu-H^t^1 (Elymus)"
Comment	 "The Glu-1 loci, which are compound, encode HMW glutenin \
	subunits."
Comment	 "Each Glu-1 locus in hexaploid wheat contains two genes, the \
	products of which were described as 'x-type' and 'y-type' based on \
	differences in molecular weight and isoelectric point (790).  Other \
	evidence has shown these gene products to differ in electrophoretic \
	fingerprint pattern (798) and cysteine content (730), and the genes \
	themselves to differ in nucleotide sequence (1068, 1034, 255).  \
	Although early evidence suggested up to 6 genes in total at each \
	locus (1069, 255), it appears likely that only a single copy of each \
	gene is present at the 1AL, 1BL,  and 1DL loci (340)."
Comment	 "The symbols for the genes within the Glu-1 loci encoding \
	'x-type' and 'y-type' proteins are Glu-1-1 and Glu-1-2, respectively \
	[rather than Glu-1x and Glu-1y (1068)].  The genes are closely linked \
	but recombination has been observed between Glu-B1-1 and Glu-B1-2 \
	with a frequency of 3 in 3,450 (789).  The gene order, relative to \
	the centromere, has not been ascertained."
Comment	 "A system of naming the Glu-A1-1, Glu-A1-2, Glu-B1-1 and \
	Glu-B1-2 alleles in T. turgidum var. dicoccoides is given in 577."
Numbered_reference	 790 "TAG-60-229"
Numbered_reference	 798 "WGS-83-827"
Numbered_reference	 730 "JCS-3-17"
Numbered_reference	 1068 "TAG-13-6833"
Numbered_reference	 1034 "NAR-13-8729"
Numbered_reference	 255 "NAR-13-6817"
Numbered_reference	 1069 "TAG-67-87"
Numbered_reference	 340 "BCG-24-579"
Numbered_reference	 789 "WGP-84-111"
Numbered_reference	 577 "TAG-75-651"


To make a long story short, the problem turned out to be that those Comment
fields were of type Text.  I changed them to ?Text, and now everything is
working.

A question: Is Text a recommended type for any situations?  As I recall it
used to be required for the arguments of Pick_me_to_call, ?Text didn't work.
Anything else?

- Dave 

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 16 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail
From: rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Richard Durbin)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: model trees
Date: 17 Oct 1994 22:11:20 +0100
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> Logically, it is sufficient to avoid identical pathes in model trees: the same
> tag may appear several times iff different labeled pathes from the root lead to
> every occurence of the tag.

You are correct.  We could always use complete paths, and then only
require that tags are unique to the right of any one node, so that
paths are unique.  This would be implementable, though it would mean
that all requests to the object package would have to pass a path of
tags, rather than just a single tag as now.  It would mean changing a
lot of code.

I suppose I feel that the lack of a requirement for knowledge about
previous layers is part of the philosophy.  It certainly allows us to
dump out data, rearrange the inner structure of a model, and read the
data back in again.  Also, it allows the map code to refer to the
"Map" subtree for example, without it being necessary for the tag
"Map" to always be in the same place in the complete model.

Of course the correct answer is that you can achieve exactly what you
want with constructed subtypes, i.e. the '#' construction.  e.g. the
model

?Box Forecol #Colour
     Backcol #Colour

?Colour UNIQUE  Red
		Blue
		Green

amounts to

?Box Forecol UNIQUE Red
		    Blue
		    Green
     Backcol UNIQUE Red
		    Blue
		    Green

except that you can obviously not just query on Red for a box, you
must use "Forecol # Red" instead.  Subtypes don't get used much, I
suspect because they are a pain.

Richard




From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 16 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!CADEV6.INTEL.COM!ptagare
From: ptagare@CADEV6.INTEL.COM
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Bug in TableMaker?
Date: 17 Oct 1994 08:55:32 -0700
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Hi!

I can't seem to get the "Condition" field in the TableMaker to work.
When I hit the button to search, the condition field is totally
ignored (This field remains yellow even after I hit return). 

However, if I save the tablemaker.def file, and use it for textace,
it works!

This is in ACEDB 3.0 on SUN OS4.1.3.

Any clues?

Thanks,

--
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 16 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!cs.utk.edu!stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV!druid!ptv
From: ptv@druid.epm.ornl.gov (Sergey Petrov)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: model trees
Date: 17 Oct 1994 14:54:06 GMT
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Keywords: tags repetition

I wonder how deep the restriction on tags repetitions is hardwired into acedb
software.
Logically, it is sufficient to avoid identical pathes in model trees: the same
tag may appear several times iff different labeled pathes from the root lead to
every occurence of the tag.
The restriction helps to create .ace files: instead of the whole tree, one
needs to use only 'leaf tags'.
The restriction is tiresome in case, for example, of spatial relationships
expressions in a model: one needs separate tags 'inside_yac' and 'contains_yac'
instead of three tags: 'contains', 'inside', and 'yac', 'clone', 'locus', etc.

Is there anybody who is interested in the subject?

Sergey Petrov





From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 16 23:00:00 1994
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 16 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail
From: rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Richard Durbin)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: Bug in TableMaker?
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> I can't seem to get the "Condition" field in the TableMaker to work.
> When I hit the button to search, the condition field is totally
> ignored (This field remains yellow even after I hit return).

You certainly have to hit return in the field for the condition to
register.  I remember problems with this, but I have used the field in
xace.  Normally I use prestored tables.  What if you save a table and
reload it back into xace?

Jean has added significantly to Table_maker for the next version of
ACEDB.  First it now handles correctly items that are not immediately
adjacent to a tag, so you can make a table of all pairs.  Second, you
can now set a condition on a column involving other columns as
parameters in the query.  This in effect allows relational join-type
operations.  Unfortunately there is a fatal bug we must find before it
is released.

Richard

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 23 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!dkfz-heidelberg.de!D.Wolf
From: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Detlef Wolf)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: storing comments on the IGD-schema
Date: 24 Oct 1994 10:18:45 -0700
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I remember John McCarthy having a Meta Data handling system integrated
into ACEDB. However, we could also use a normal ACEDB to handle the
schema description.

I tried a 10-minute test:

1. add a class  (to {models,classes,options}.wrm):
?Meta   KW ?LongText REPEAT

2. run this awk-script on models.wrm:
'/^ *\/\// {next}
/^ *$/ {print; next}
/^\?/ {print "Meta :",$1; $1=""; print "KW",$0; next}
{print "KW",$0}

and redirect its output into a file models.ace

3. in ACEDB, read models (from main menu), then read models.ace

Now for each tag and each pointer a long text can be entered,
altough the text must be a summary on all the places the tag
is used in the model.

2 sample "Long"Texts:
LongText : Full_name
the full name for an Author comes from GDB

Mon Oct 24 18:02:49 MET 1994  dok256
***LongTextEnd***

LongText : ?Clone
Clones come from GDB and RLDB
***LongTextEnd***


And the main work -- writing the text -- remains, of course.

Greetings
Detlef




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From: mccarthy@UX5.LBL.GOV (John L. McCarthy)
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Subject: Re: storing comments on the IGD-schema
Date: 24 Oct 1994 12:09:04 -0700
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I like Detlef's awk script to capture information on tags,
but I think it needs a bit more:

1. tags need to be associated with classes, since a tag may have different 
  semantic meanings in different classes; and

2. likewise, pointers need to be associated with a particular ?Class/tag,
since there can even be multiple pointers to the same class from different
tags within a single class -- each with different semantic meaning.

At the ACEDB Workshop, we demonstrated that it is possible to invoke Mosaic
from within ACEDB, and to pass it information on what class and tag are
currently selected, so that one could provide context sensitive help
on individual elements (?Class, tag, pointer, data value, etc.).

-John


