From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Dec 01 22:00:00 1994
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From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
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Subject: UNSUBSCRIBING, BIOSCI ARCHIVES, ADDRESS DATABASE & BIOSCI FAQ
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Four important items follow: How to cancel e-mail subscriptions to
BIOSCI newsgroups, BIOSCI archive searching, the BIOSCI FAQ, and the
BIOSCI User Address Directory form.  If you have not yet listed
yourself in our BIOSCI user directory, please take a few minutes to
complete and return the form below.  If your personal information has
changed since you listed yourself, please send us a complete new
updated form.  We can not make manual revisions to existing entries.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net



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		  Using Gopher to complete the form
                  ---------------------------------

If you don't want to use a text editor, you can also use Dan
Jacobson's gopher site to fill out the address database form as
follows.  Otherwise skip this section on gopher and proceed to the
instructions for filling out the form below.

> To add yourself to the database just point your
> gopher client at merlot.gdb.org and select the following:
> 
> -->  15. Searching For Biologists/
> 
>  -->  9.  E-mail Addresses of Biosci-Bionet Users/
> 
>   -->  1.  Add (or Correct) Your Address to the BIOSCI User Address
> Data..
> 
> 
> And fill out the form.

or Rob Harper's gopher site in Europe as follows:

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> 
>                               FAQ Files
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>       1.  EMBnet: Information.
>       2.  EMBnet: Internet resources guide.
>       3.  A Biologist's Guide to Internet Resources/
>       4.  All FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) Searches and Archives/
>   --->5.  Bionauts Address Database (questionaire) <TEL>


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comment: ARABIDOPSIS PLANT-BIOLOGY BIONEWS

On the comment: lines
use these names below ---- NOT the USENET names below

MAILING LIST NAME          USENET Newsgroup Name
-----------------          ---------------------
ACEDB-SOFT                 bionet.software.acedb
AGEING                     bionet.molbio.ageing
AGROFORESTRY               bionet.agroforestry
ARABIDOPSIS                bionet.genome.arabidopsis
ASCB                       bionet.prof-society.ascb
BIOCAN                     bionet.prof-society.cfbs
BIOFORUM                   bionet.general
BIO-INFORMATION-THEORY     bionet.info-theory
BIONAUTS                   bionet.users.addresses
BIONEWS                    bionet.announce
BIO-JOURNALS               bionet.journals.contents
BIO-MATRIX                 bionet.molbio.bio-matrix
BIOPHYSICAL-SOCIETY        bionet.prof-society.biophysics
BIOPHYSICS                 bionet.biophysics
BIO-SOFTWARE               bionet.software
BIOTHERMOKINETICS          bionet.metabolic-reg
BIO-WWW                    bionet.software.www
CARDIOVASCULAR-RESEARCH    bionet.biology.cardiovascular
CELEGANS                   bionet.celegans
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CHLAMYDOMONAS              bionet.chlamydomonas
CHROMOSOMES                bionet.genome.chromosomes
COMPUTATIONAL-BIOLOGY      bionet.biology.computational
CSM                        bionet.prof-society.csm
CYTONET                    bionet.cellbiol.cytonet
DROSOPHILA                 bionet.drosophila
EMBL-DATABANK              bionet.molbio.embldatabank
EMF-BIO                    bionet.emf-bio
EMPLOYMENT                 bionet.jobs
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FASEB                      bionet.prof-society.faseb
GDB                        bionet.molbio.gdb
GENBANK-BB                 bionet.molbio.genbank
GENETIC-LINKAGE            bionet.molbio.gene-linkage
GRASSES-SCIENCE            bionet.biology.grasses
HIV-MOLECULAR-BIOLOGY      bionet.molbio.hiv
HUMAN-GENOME-PROGRAM       bionet.molbio.genome-program
IMMUNOLOGY                 bionet.immunology
INFO-GCG                   bionet.software.gcg
JOURNAL-NOTES              bionet.journals.note
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS       bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts
MICROBIOLOGY               bionet.microbiology
MOLECULAR-EVOLUTION        bionet.molbio.evolution
MOLECULAR-MODELLING        bionet.molec-model
MOLLUSC-MOLECULAR-NEWS     bionet.molbio.molluscs
MYCOLOGY                   bionet.mycology
NEUROSCIENCE               bionet.neuroscience
N2-FIXATION                bionet.biology.n2-fixation
PARASITOLOGY               bionet.parasitology
PHOTOSYNTHESIS             bionet.photosynthesis
PLANT-BIOLOGY              bionet.plants
POPULATION-BIOLOGY         bionet.population-bio
PROTEIN-ANALYSIS           bionet.molbio.proteins
PROTEIN-CRYSTALLOGRAPHY    bionet.xtallography
PROTISTA                   bionet.protista
RAPD                       bionet.molbio.rapd
SCIENCE-RESOURCES          bionet.sci-resources
STADEN                     bionet.software.staden
STRUCTURAL-NMR             bionet.structural-nmr
TROPICAL-BIOLOGY           bionet.biology.tropical
URODELES                   bionet.organisms.urodeles
VIROLOGY                   bionet.virology
WOMEN-IN-BIOLOGY           bionet.women-in-bio
YEAST                      bionet.molbio.yeast
ZBRAFISH                   bionet.organisms.zebrafish

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Thanks again for your cooperation!



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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Dec 04 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!uhog.mit.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!futures.wharton.upenn.edu!cook33
From: cook33@futures.wharton.upenn.edu (DARA A. COOK)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Electronic Books
Date: 5 Dec 1994 21:37:10 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
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	We are University of Pennsylvania students 
doing a marketing project for electronic books and 
would appreciate if you would take a few minutes 
to read the following short description
 and answer the following questions.  
	

POCKET-SIZED ELECTRONIC  BOOK

	A pocket-sized electronic book allows you to  search and 
retrieve instant information.  It is available in two different 
versions: Merriam-Webster Dictionary and Holy Bible King James Version.  
On the back of each electronic dictionary or Bible, there is
an open slot to insert an additional cartridge.  
Adding an additional cartridge allows you to  search and retrieve 
instant information from two books at the same time.    For  example, 
If you are  reading a passage from the electronic Bible and you found
a word confusing, you can find the meaning of that word by inserting 
the dictionary cartridge into the back of the electronic Bible.  
 There are many cartridge titles to choose from, including food guides, 
games, encyclopedias, medical manuals as well as
a host of other titles.  The prices of the cartridges range from $20 
to $60 each.  The pocket-sized electronic book is portable, 
convenient and easy to use.   



What do you think about this concept?



How much do you think it costs?



Would you purchase it this price? 



Where would you find it?



How would you use it in your everyday life? 



Think about the last time you needed to correctly 
spell a word, find a definition or synonym, or pronounce
a word. How did you get the information?




What, if any, are other products that you would 
use instead of this 
electronic book ?


THANK YOU!!!!!!!!


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Dec 05 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!gatech!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!purdue!yuma!usenet
From: mferguso@agsci.colostate.edu (Martin Ferguson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: new acedb server
Date: 6 Dec 1994 22:41:53 GMT
Organization: csu
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From dknudson Tue Dec  6 14:46 MST 1994
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 14:45:44 -0700 (MST)
From: "Dennis L. Knudson" <dknudson@klab.AgSci.ColoState.EDU>
Subject: Mosquito Genomics WWW
To: Michael Gottlieb <Michael_Gottlieb@exec.niaid.pc.niaid.nih.gov>,
        Stephanie James <stephanie_james@exec.niaid.pc.niaid.nih.gov>,
        "Major Scott W. Gordon" <gordos@morakot.nectec.or.th>,
        Anthony James <aajames@uci.edu>,
        Administration <kknox@vines.ColoState.EDU>, laugh@lamar.ColoState.EDU,
        rsmith@vines.ColoState.EDU, AIDL Faculty <bbeaty@vines.colostate.edu>,
        brm4@cidvbi1.em.cdc.gov, jcarlson@ops.AgSci.ColoState.EDU,
        tabachni@uwyo.edu, wcb4@lamar.colostate.edu
Cc: Martin Ferguson <mferguso@klab.AgSci.ColoState.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0


********************* Announcment *****************************

Mosquito Genomics WWW Server

URL http://klab.agsci.colostate.edu/

********************* Announcment *****************************

This server is under continuing construction.

The Mosquito Genomics WWW Server provides access to mosquito genomics
and links to other genomics WWW servers, to the National Center for
Biotechnology Information, and to other WWW servers around the world.

Mosquito Genomics

   Aedes aegypti

   Anopheles gambiae

   Aedes aegypti Genome Database (AaeDB)

About AaeDB:

The purpose of this database is to collate both the genetic and
physical chromosome mapping data available for the Aedes aegypti
mosquito. The information therein is made available to the Internet
community through this World Wide Web (WWW) Server.

The database is running on ACeDB v3.0, a relational database developed
by the C. elegans community. The nph-acedb software is being used as
the gateway to our WWW server. You may browse or query the database,
but you will need a Mosaic reader (X version 2 or higher) that is
capable of forms fill in and spawning external viewers such as
ghostview for full functionality.

This work and WWW are sponsored by the MacArthur Foundation Researcg
Network on the Biology of Parasite Vectors, National Institutues of
Health - National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and
others.

About the AaeDB Curators:

The Aedes aegypti database is maintained in the laboratory of Dennis
Knudson, Department of Entomology at Colorado State University, Ft.
Collins, CO, USA 80523. This lab is member of CSU's Arthropod-borne
Infectious Disease Laboratory (AIDL), a MacArthur Foundation Network on
the Biology of Parasite Vectors member. In due course, the AIDL faculty
will be found by clicking here.

The database curators are Dennis Knudson and Martin Ferguson. Who can
be reached via e-mail at aaedbmgr@klab.AgSci.ColoState.EDU. In
addition, Dave Severson (dave@aedes.VetSci.Wisc.EDU) is a co-curator of
the genetic mapping data.

This WWW server is maintained by Dennis L. Knudson
(dknudson@klab.AgSci.ColoState.EDU)



From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Dec 07 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!CS.Arizona.EDU!news.Arizona.EDU!hamblin.math.byu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!hobbes.cc.uga.edu!dogwood.botany.uga.edu!pbrunk
From: pbrunk@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Paul Brunk)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Macace again
Date: 8 Dec 1994 09:27:38 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
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Hi all again:

We're working on an acedb for peanuts.  Not in production yet.  While
UNIX is our production environment, we're trying to get a macace
version running too.  To this end, I got the 21bDB macace from
genome.lbl.gov, which uses a 3.0 version of the code.

I added classes, models and tags for our data, and when it read in my
models.wrm it complained of "unknown item xxxxxx", referring to one of
my tags.  Altering the order of some of the contents of models.wrm and
tags.wrm made it seem as though my tags were not known to the
database, although I had reinitialised it.

But I thought "better start from scratch".  So I did.  This time, all
I did was add my tags to tags.wrm (starting at 3001), and didn't touch
anything else.  This time, whether or not I removed the distribution
ACEDB.wrm from the database folder, I got a startup error something
like "tag 3001 (_Archived) tried to overwrite tag 3001 (NULL key)".
"Archived" is the name of my tag.

Earlier, in the folly of my youth, I asked about recompiling macace,
and was gently reminded that one of the strengths of acedb is
precisely that you *don't* need to recompile if you're only adding
data and models.  But now I have no guesses as to what is causing the
above behaviour.  Any ideas?

As usual, thanks for your time.  The acedb community is quite
self-supportive!

--
Paul Brunk, ancillary staff
University of Georgia Botany Department
pbrunk@dogwood.botany.uga.edu


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Fri Dec 09 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!utcsri!utnut!torn!uunet.ca!uunet.ca!interlog.com!ivor.interlog.com!ivor
From: ivor@interlog.com
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: The SIMTEL for Sale - 2 CDs with the BEST Shareware.
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 22:39:10 EST
Organization: Interlog Internet Services -Voice (416) 975-2655 -Data 515-1414
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   The SIMTEL Archive for Sale - 2 CD-ROM disks of Shareware

    The Largest Shareware Archive - released September 1994 

       	       Only $39.95 US  or  $49.95 CAN

  - 10,000 MS-DOS and Windows shareware programs on 2 disks.
  - Disks contain utilities, communication programs, BBS's editors,
    documentarion, programs for the handicapped, genealogy, database
    software, animation software, BBS programs, books and documentation,
    communication packages, etc.
  - Many programs contain source code.
  - A wealth of programming tools for many languages including C,
    Assembly and Basic (there's a great 32 bit C++ compiler).
  - There is a huge number of programs for Windows including the Telix
    version for Windows.
  - There are no games.
  - User friendly browser.
  - BBS Discription files included.


If you are interested, please E-Mail: ivor@interlog.com  for ordering
information.


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Dec 11 22:00:00 1994
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!olivea!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!karis
From: karis@netcom.com (Robert Karis)
Subject: Re: Electronic Books
Message-ID: <karisD0MxEJ.GE3@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 07:13:30 GMT
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DARA A. COOK (cook33@futures.wharton.upenn.edu) wrote:
: 	We are University of Pennsylvania students 
: doing a marketing project for electronic books and 
: would appreciate if you would take a few minutes 
: to read the following short description
:  and answer the following questions.  

: POCKET-SIZED ELECTRONIC  BOOK

   (description deleted)
:  There are many cartridge titles to choose from, including food guides, 
: games, encyclopedias, medical manuals as well as
: a host of other titles.  The prices of the cartridges range from $20 
: to $60 each.  The pocket-sized electronic book is portable, 
: convenient and easy to use.   

: What do you think about this concept?
   I would like it if the books were available on PCMCIA cards, so we 
could use them on palmtops or noteboooks.

: How much do you think it costs?
    $200?  How about $100 and make your money on the software?
     The price of the cartridges sounds ok.  Could read-only PCMCIA 
cards be made for the same price?

: Would you purchase it this price? 
     No, I don't want to carry around both a notebook and another 
electronic gadget.

: Where would you find it?
    Campus bookstore...Whole Earth Access

: How would you use it in your everyday life? 
   I would want reference books.

: Think about the last time you needed to correctly 
: spell a word, find a definition or synonym, or pronounce
: a word. How did you get the information? 
   Paper dictionary, even though I have the American Heritage dictionary 
in my desktop computer.

: What, if any, are other products that you would 
: use instead of this 
: electronic book ?
    Actually, what I need is a PCMCIA CDROM drive!

: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Dec 12 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!GENOME.LBL.GOV!workshop
From: workshop@GENOME.LBL.GOV (john mccarthy)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: ACEDB 1995 Conference and Workshop
Date: 13 Dec 1994 09:59:20 -0800
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ACEDB 1995 CONFERENCE & WORKSHOP

The 1995 ACEDB Conference and Workshop will be held May 14-27, 1995, at the 
Isis Oasis, a small retreat center in Geyserville, about 80 miles north of 
SanFrancisco in Sonoma County, California.  We will have exclusive use of the 
entire retreat center, including the theater (for workstations and primary 
sessions), dining room, lodge, and other residential facilities.

The main goal of the three day ACEDB Conference (May 14-17) is information 
exchange. It will feature tutorials (May 15), oral presentations, posters, on-
line demonstrations, and discussions.  

The further goals of the ten day ACEDB Workshop following the conference 
(May 18-27) are code development and consolidation, database building, 
documentation writing, special interest group discussions, and long range 
planning.  

Since its introduction in 1991 for the C. elegans research community, ACEDB 
has been adopted by a number of diverse organizations and individuals to 
maintain and distribute data on over forty different genomes, including 
human, bovine, Drosophila, yeast, mycobacteria, Arabidopsis, grains, trees, 
and fungi.  ACEDB has become one of the most successful examples of 
collaborative software for genome research.  Annual meetings have been a 
key ingredient in building and maintaining this growing international 
community of ACEDB users, curators, and developers.  


PARTICIPANTS & SELECTION PROCEDURES

Everyone who wants to attend the Conference or Workshop should submit a a 
pre-registration form (included at the end of this announcement) and a brief 
(one page) description of how they would like to participate.  We may need to 
limit the number of participants from each organization, particularly for the 
Workshop.  Contributions may include presentations (oral, poster, or computer 
demos), giving tutorials, developing new databases, upgrading existing 
databases, programming, writing documentation, or simply discussing your 
own work as it relates to ACEDB.  The program committee will select 35 
workshop participants plus an additional 30 or 40 conference participants on 
the basis of these descriptions, trying to balance different types of 
contributions and representation from different organizations.  


IMPORTANT DATES
 
February  1 Pre-registration & final version of participation descriptions due

March 1     Participants notified about which parts they will be able to attend,
              how much financial support they can expect, and room forms

April 1     Final WWW versions of abstracts due for posters, presentations, etc.
            Short descriptive self-introductions due for all participants
            Final registration, housing and room requests due


COSTS AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT

Like previous ACEDB workshops, we have selected a site that will keep our costs 
low, and we are trying to secure computer equipment from vendors that we 
can use for the conference and workshop without charge.  Local genome 
research organizations (including Stanford, LBL, UCB, and USFS) are 
contributing staff time and equipment as well as helping with local 
arrangements.  

We hope to secure funding from the Department of Energy's Human Genome 
Program, the National Center for Human Genome Research at NIH, the National 
Science Foundation, and the Department of Agriculture's Plant Genome 
Program to support some of our basic costs plus support for some people who 
might  not otherwise be able to participate -- especially graduate students and 
post-docs.  Otto Ritter also hopes to secure European Community funding for 
some European participant scholarships.

If we can secure funding to underwrite our infrastructure costs, the basic 
costs for participants may be as low as $30 per day for meals and $25 to $50 
per day for triple, double, or single rooms. 



ACEDB CONFERENCE, May 14-16
---------------------------
Our agenda is still evolving.  We welcome your suggestions.  The current 
version is as follows:

Sun 14, 4-9pm  Arrival, Reception

Mon 15 TUTORIALS (potential topics)

GENERAL
         Introduction to ACEDB
         Query Tools and Language
         Map Displays
         Sequence Displays & Analysis

CURATORS
         Database Definition (models)
         Data Loading & Maintenance (.ace files & tools)
         Customizing User Help
         Lab Notebook Databases

PROGRAMMERS
         Connections to External Software
         Client-server Front Ends
         Graphics Library
         Query and Database Subroutines


ACEDB 95 CONFERENCE, Tues-Wed, May 16-17
------------------------------------------------

These two days will be primarily devoted to formal presentations, a poster 
session, and special interest groups.  Topics may include the following:

Map Display tools
Sequence Display and analysis
Laboratory Information Management 
Community archival databases
Data distribution and exchange 
Database interoperability
ACEDB and the World Wide Web
Sharable Software Components
Connecting ACEDB to other software
Non-biological ACEDB databases
New Features and Future Plans


ACEDB WORKSHOP, May 18-27
--------------------------
Like last year's successful workshop, each day will be organized around a 
particular topic, with plenary presentations in the morning and working 
groups in the afternoon or evening.  Some days will have afternoons off with 
evening sessions, while others will have afternoon rather than evening 
sessions. We will continue to meet on Saturday, May 20, but take off Sunday, 
May 21 for rest and recreation. We will conclude with a wrap-up session 
Saturday morning, May 27.

Possible daily workshop themes include the following:

Thu: Models & Data Definition
Fri: Data Import & Export (.ace files, TACE, etc.)
Sat: Query Language and Tools (including Table-Maker)
Sun: Off
Mon: Map Displays
Tue: Sequence Displays
Wed: Communicating with External Software
Thu: Client-Server Architecture
Fri: Project Coordination
Sat: Assessment, Open Questions, Future Plans


POTENTIAL SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS

Client-Server Archtecture(s)
Map Displays
Sequence Tools
Lab Databases
Archival Databases
Query Language and Tools
Documentation


1995 CONFERENCE AND WORKSHOP COMMITTEES

The local organizing committee includes the following individuals:
John McCarthy (LBL)
Frank Eeckman (LBL, author of MacACE)
Suzanna Lewis (U.C. Berkeley, author of flydb)
Mike Cherry ((Saccharomyces Genome Database, Stanford))
Brad Sherman (U.S. Forest Service Tree Genome Database Project, Albany)

The Program Committee currently includes the above, plus the following:
Richard Durbin (Sanger Centre, ACEDB author)
Jean Thierry-Mieg (CNRS, Montpellier, ACEDB author)
Sam Cartinhour (USDA National Agricultural Library)
Jaime Prilusky (Weizmann Institute)
Otto Ritter (DKFZ, Heidelberg. IGD project)


INTERNET AND WORLD WIDE WEB OUTREACH

Prior to the Conference and Workshop, we plan to use WWW documents to 
publicize our plans, share statements of interest from individual participants, 
distribute various materials, and solicit input for the final agenda.  During 
and after the Workshop, we plan to use WWW to summarize presentations and 
discussions, provide access to demonstrations, and share written results.  A 
growing number of conferences are finding this to be a very effective 
mechanism.  

Our web home page is currently http://genome.lbl.gov/ace95.html.


INFORMATION

We are distributing this announcement to individuals who have already 
expressed an interest in the workshop and the ACEDB newsgroup 
(acedb@net.bio.net) [and conferences].  We will also send shorter 
announcements to the DoE Human Genome Newsletter and CABios.  Suggestions 
for other places to announce the conference and workshop would be welcome.

For further information, send email to ace95@genome.lbl.gov



PRE-REGISTRATION

In order to give our program committee a rough idea of how many people may 
wish to attend the tutorials, conference, and workshop, please fill out 
information following colons (:) and other items below, and return by 
February 1 to  ace95@genome.lbl.gov.

====================== cut here =======================================

ACEDB 95 Conference and Workshop -- Pre-registration Form

Name: 

Organization:

Email Address (if not return address):

Put "X" in brackets [ ]  for each part in which you wish to participate:
 
[  ] Reception and tutorial sessions (May 14-15)
[  ] Two day ACEDB 95 Conference (May 16-17)
[  ] Ten day ACEDB 95 Workshop (May 18-27)
[  ] Not sure whether I can participate
[  ] Cannot participate, but please keep me on the ACE95 mailing list

Please use the space below to describe what contributions you would like to 
make to one or more parts of this year's ACEDB 95 Conference and Workshop. 

We would like someone from each participating organization to prepare one 
poster that summarizes its work.  We also want to post abstracts and and as 
many posters as possible on the World Wide Web prior to the conference.
 
You may resubmit this section any time prior to February 1, but please return 
the above information as soon as possible.



From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Dec 12 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!dkfz-heidelberg.de!D.Wolf
From: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Detlef Wolf)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: "name read"
Date: 13 Dec 1994 11:48:29 -0800
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a suggestion from a discussion in one of the IGD courses:

if one ACEDB is shared by (several) people not having write access
to the database they cannot store a keyset (the result of possibly
longer work) and continue on it in the next session.

suggestion: in the KeySet menu, analgous to "name dump"
there should be a function "name read".
It reads the contents of the .ace file ~/myKeySet
and makes it the active KeySet. It skips objects that do
not exist in the database.
The file ~/myKeySet can be generated by the "name dump" function.

What do you think about that?
Detlef

----------------------------------------------
Appendix:
this code works, but is not nice.
it should use ACEDB parsing routines and
could work on lexiques directly to be faster.

The KEYSET readKeySet(FILE* ksf) {
  KEYSET ks=0,kstmp; 
  char classname[128];
  char objname[256];
  char queryt[384];
  int i;
  
  kstmp=keySetCreate();
  classname[0]='\0';
  
  /* ignore first line */
  while ((i=fscanf(ksf,"%s : %s",classname,objname))!=2 && i!=EOF);
 
  if (strcmp(classname,"KeySet")) {
    printf("expected class KeySet, but found %s. Abort reading\n",classname);
    return(0);
  };
  
  while (fscanf(ksf,"%s : %s",classname,objname)==2) {
    sprintf(queryt,"FIND %s %s",classname,objname);
    kstmp=query(0,queryt);
    ks=keySetOR(kstmp,ks);
  };
  
  keySetDestroy(kstmp);
  return(ks);
}

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Dec 13 22:00:00 1994
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From: swood@unixg.ubc.ca (Stephen Wood)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Clone_Grid
Date: 14 Dec 94 16:33:37 GMT
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The Clone Grid tool is limited to 10 characters for the names of clones, 
while this limitation does not exist for naming a new clone using 
Alias-Rename-Delete.  Thus clone names can be entered exceeding 10 
characters (which may a convenient name) and then the data cannot be 
mapped onto a Clone_Grid.

Can the size of the clone field be easily changed to exceed this 10 
character limitation?

Thanks,

Stephen

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Dec 13 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!GENOME.STANFORD.EDU!cherry
From: cherry@GENOME.STANFORD.EDU (Mike Cherry)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: Ace GUIs -- model and data files
Date: 14 Dec 1994 10:41:49 -0800
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Susan,

You might want to check out the ACEDB FAQ:

    Please cite as:
    Sherman,B.K., ACEDB Genome Database Software FAQ,
    ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/acedb-faq,
    http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/acedbfaq.html,
    1993,1994, approx. 50K bytes.

There are over 40 different database groups now using ACEDB for there
information some are already doing conversions from ace to whatever.

There are many "tags" of the models that can not be changed and that
data must be associated before the displays will work. For example Map
must be set for a Locus for the genetic maps to display that locus.  A
list of these "magic" tags was prepared at the last ACEDB workshop,
some one on the list probably has it.

Some of the references in the FAQ will explain this more. There is
also a "programmers" type guide available, and mentioned in the FAQ.

ACEDB is built on top of a graphics and database library so it is
straight forward to extend ACEDB or produce new applications that read
and write into an ACEDB database.

Mike

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Dec 13 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!rutgers!uwm.edu!msunews!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews!susan
From: susan@central.cis.upenn.edu (Susan Davidson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Ace GUIs -- model and data files
Date: 14 Dec 94 13:11:32
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I have some questions about how closely AceDb graphical user
interfaces are tied to the data and model files.  For example, we have
downloaded the sample Acedb at ncbi.nlm.nih.gov, which comes with a
lovely gui that lets you point and click on regions of chromosomes.
Suppose I am not really interested in the sample data this comes with,
and instead want to view my own data with that interface.

My questions are:

1. I presume that I can delete the existing data, and load in my own
data as long as it conforms to the existing model definitions
(schema).  Correct?

2. How *closely* does the model definition of my new data have to
conform?  That is, I presume that the existing schema could be
modified somewhat without having to alter the code for the gui's
(otherwise the gui's are very brittle).  Is there some way of knowing
what part of the model definitions must remain stable? 

3. Is there a "library" of such gui's and the requirements they place
on the model definition files?

I am interested in this because we are looking at translating data
"into" and "out of Ace" format.  Getting data "out of" Ace format is
useful for integrating data from Acedb databases with data from other
sources, such as relational and ASN.1.  Getting data "into" Ace format
will allow us to use the great user interfaces that have been
developed in connection with Ace and still maintain the data in our
own local databases.

If you are familiar with this part of Ace, or know of a document and
its source that would be helpful, please let me know.

Thanks, 
Susan Davidson








From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Dec 13 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!daresbury!not-for-mail
From: rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Richard Durbin)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re:  "name read"
Date: 14 Dec 1994 09:54:09 -0000
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We have already introduced exactly this idea into our working code.
There is a menu item "Import Keyset" in the keyset display window menu
that lets you read in a keyset from a file without write access.  If
the file contains references to objects that do not exist in the 
database then it tells you how many of these there were.  As Detlef
says, it is a useful function.

Richard

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Dec 14 22:00:00 1994
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From: staffan@biochem.kth.se (Staffan Bergh)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
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Keywords: magic tags, AboutDB

In article <199412141843.KAA21854@fafner.stanford.edu> cherry@GENOME.STANFORD.EDU (Mike Cherry) writes:
[in reply to article <SUSAN.94Dec14131132@central.cis.upenn.edu> from Susan Davidson]

> .. some stuff deleted ..

>There are many "tags" of the models that can not be changed and that
>data must be associated before the displays will work. For example Map
>must be set for a Locus for the genetic maps to display that locus.  A
>list of these "magic" tags was prepared at the last ACEDB workshop,
>some one on the list probably has it.

Some of this is available in AboutDB, the ACEDB database: Check out
the class TagInfo for information on specific tags. The help is a
bit scanty (non-existent, really) but changing tags that are used in
the code (have the tag SourceCode in AboutDB) should maybe be
avoided. Lots of experimentation recommended!

Unfortunately querying in TagInfo class doesn't work (and also you cannot
display the model), probably because of a lingering bug in the web server.

AboutDB is available through the web at URL:
	http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/AboutDB.html

/staffan


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From: acedbfaq@s27w007.pswfs.gov (ACEDB FAQ Pseudouser)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb,news.answers
Subject: ACEDB Genome Database Software FAQ
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Summary: Frequently Asked Questions about finding and getting
 started with the database system ACEDB.  ACEDB is used
 to collect information regarding the molecular biology
 of the genome.
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    Common Questions, with Answers, about ACEDB.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
   
Q0:   What is ACEDB? 
Q1:   What is the current version of ACEDB? 
Q2:   What hardware/software do I need to run ACEDB? 
Q3:   Where can I get ACEDB? 
!Q4:  What ACEDB databases exist? 
Q5:   What written documentation exists for ACEDB? 
Q6:   Where can I find further information about ACEDB? 
Q7:   How should ACEDB be cited? 
Q8:   Is ACEDB object-oriented? 
Q9:   What's all this about Gopher|WAIS|ftp|WWW|URL ... 
Q10:  How can I get on/off the ACEDB announcements mailing list? 
!Q11: When and where is the next ACEDB Workshop? 
Q411: Who prepared this document & where is the current version? 
  
    Questions marked with + are new, those with !
    have substantially changed answers.

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Q0:  What is ACEDB?


A0:  ACEDB is an acronym for A Caenorhabditis elegans Database.  It can
     refer to a database and data concerning the nematode C. elegans,
     or to the database software alone.  This document is concerned
     primarily with the latter meaning.  ACEDB is being adapted by many
     groups to organize molecular biology data about the genomes of
     diverse species [see Q4].

     ACEDB allows for automatic cross-referencing of items during
     loading and allows for hypertextual navigation of the links
     using a graphical user interface and mouse.  Certain special
     purpose graphical displays have been integrated into the
     software.  These reflect the needs of molecular biologists
     in constructing genetic and physical maps of genomes.

     ACEDB was written and developed by Richard Durbin (MRC LMB
     Cambridge, England) and Jean Thierry-Mieg (CNRS, Montpellier,
     France), beginning circa 1990.  It is written in the C programming
     language and uses the X11 windowing system to provide a platform
     independent graphical user interface.  The source code is publicly
     available [See Q3].  Durbin & Thierry-Mieg continue to develop
     the system, with contributions from other groups including
     Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory and the Integrated Genomic Database
     (IGD) project headed by Otto Ritter.

     A description by Durbin & Thierry-Mieg:
         ACEDB does not use an underlying relational database
         schema, but a system we wrote ourselves in which data
         are stored in objects that belong in classes.  This is
         nevertheless a general database management system using
         caches, session control, and a powerful query language.
         Typical objects are clones, genes, alleles, papers,
         sequences, etc.  Each object is stored as a tree,
         following a hierarchical structure for the class (called
         the "model").  Maps are derived from data stored in tree
         objects, but precomputed and stored as tables for
         efficiency.  The system of models allows flexibility
         and efficiency of storage -missing data are not stored.
         A major advantage is that the models can be extended
         and refined without invalidating an existing database.
         Comments can be added to any node of an object.

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Q1:  What is the current version of ACEDB?


A1: [This answer refers to the software not the C. elegans data.]
    Currently there are two threads of the ACEDB kernel: the
    2.x series which represents the C. elegans project under
    the tutelage of Richard Durbin, and the 3.x series from
    Jean Thierry-Mieg.  However, the differences in the code
    are slight and the two authors committed to a single
    kernel at the ACEDB workshop in July, 1994.  The most
    recent release is an experimental version 3.3 which 
    is available from the repositories.

     A Macintosh version is available as version 2.0b4.

     To retrieve the software see Q3.

     To be kept informed of new releases see Q10.


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Q2:  What hardware/software do I need to run ACEDB?


A2:

     Unix and X11:
        
         Sun/SunOS 4.x
         Sun/Solaris
         DEC  DECstation3100, 5100 etc.
         DEC  Alpha/OSF-1
         Silicon Graphics Iris series
         PC 386/486 with Linux (free Unix)
             [note from Jeff Bryer, jbryer@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca]
             I just installed up Linux yesterday and today spent
             the many hours to compile in the C. elegans data for
             ACEDB v2.0  So to save other people the trouble of
             doing the same the entire package ACEDB for Linux 2-10
             is available on trog.mbb.sfu.ca in /pub/acedb as
             linux.2_10.tar.Z
              The data was compiled in on a 486DX-33 with 16MBs of
             RAM running Linux 1.1.18 (Slackware 2.0.0 distribution)
             and a 32MB swap device (and it chugged away for a couple
             hours chewing up all 16MBs and half the swap space).
             File size is about 73MBs uncompressed, 26MBs compressed.
              This is based on the ACEDB v2.0 port for Linux that Ken
             Clark (ken@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca) did.
         There exist, or have existed, ports onto Alliant, Hewlett-
           Packard, IBM R6000, Convex.   You may have to contact
           the developer responsible for the port to make these real.
         NeXT: contact Patrick Phillips at University of Texas,
           NeXTmail: patrick@wbar.uta.edu
              email: phil@decster.uta.edu
         
    MSDOS/Windows/NT:
         
        A port to NT is rumored to be in the works.
         
    Macintosh:
         [Contributed by Frank Eeckman]
         Macace is distributed as a self-extracting archive that contains
         the application, the wspec files, and a fully up to date
         database.  macace 3.0 is available with an updated 21bdb
         database.  Please send all questions/bug reports to
         eeckman@llnl.gov A native powerPC version is available as
         well.  Macace needs a macintosh with > 16 MBytes of RAM,
         and a decent color monitor is preferred. System 7 or
         greater is required. For the multimedia extensions Quicktime
         1.0 is required.  Please add your name to our mailing list by
         sending email to eeckman@llnl.gov.
         It is our belief that for cost savings a powerPC mac will beat
         the advertised linux-intel combination.
         Macace is fully compatible with xace, but includes some
         multimedia extensions (picture and movie support) not found
         in the unix versions.


     To retrieve the software see Q3.

    For cost savings, a combination of a high-end Intel platform
    with Linux appears very attractive. [Though the port does
    not seem robust, yet --bks]

    Here at the Institute of Forest Genetics we run ACEDB on a 
    Sun Microsystems SPARCstation II, and users can interact
    using Macintoshes and PC-clones by using X11 implementations
    for the personal computers and a LAN.

    X11 fonts note: ACEDB uses fonts listed in the xfonts.wrm
    file.  If you install new fonts on your machine be sure to
    run bldfamily(1) so that they are available.
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Q3:  Where can I get ACEDB?


A3:  All the files are available in the following public access
     accounts (anonymous ftp sites) accessible via Internet:
        
        
        lirmm.lirmm.fr (193.49.104.10) in pub/acedb
        
        
        cele.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (131.111.84.1) in pub/acedb
        
        
        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (130.14.20.1) in repository/acedb
        
        
        bioinformatics.weizmann.ac.il (132.76.55.12) in
            pub/databases/acedb.
        
        
        
        MacAce is available from:
        
        genome.lbl.gov
             (131.243.224.80) in pub/macace 
        
             cele.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (131.111.84.1) in pub/acedb/macace 
        
        
        Linux; ACEDB version 2.0 for Linux 2-10:
        
        trog.mbb.sfu.ca /pub/acedb as linux.2_10.tar.Z 


    A typical session would be: 
        ftp ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
        login: anonymous
        password: your email address
        cd repository/acedb/ace3
        binary
        ls
        get README_3
        get NOTES
        get INSTALL
        get bin.sparc.3.0.tar.Z
        quit
        

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Q4:  What ACEDB databases exist?


A4:  [In alphabetic order by Database name.
         Curators, submit changes as new paragraphs.--bks]

     Database : AaeDB
     Species : Aedes aegypti
     Last_update : December 1994
     ACEDB_version : 3.0
     http://klab.agsci.colostate.edu/index.html
     PI : Dennis Knudson, dknudson@lamar.colostate.edu
     Curator : Martin Ferguson, martinf@lamar.colostate.edu
     Curator : Dave Severson, dave@aedes.vetsci.wisc.edu
     Contact : aaedbmgr@klab.agsci.colostate.edu

     Database : AAnDB-1.0
     Species : Aspergillus nidulans
     PI : Leland Ellis
     Last_update : February 1994
     ACEDB_version : 3.0
     Contact : leland@stralight.tamu.edu
      URL : http://keck.tamu.edu/ibt.html 
     Comment : defunct, See AGsDB

     Database : AAtDB
     Species : Arabidopsis thaliana
     Current version : 3-4
     Last_update : November 1994
     Curator : John Morris
     Contact : curator@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu
     Availability :  ftp weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/aatdb/aatdb.3x
     Availability :  Macintosh version in /aatdb/MacAAtDB directory 
     URL :  gopher://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/
     URL :  http://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu:80/index.html 
     URL :  http://probe.nalusda.gov:8300/

     Database : ABtDB-1.0
     Species : Bovine, Bos taurus
     ACEDB_version : 3.0 extended
     PI : Leland Ellis
     Last_update : February 1994
     Contact : leland@stralight.tamu.edu
     URL : http://keck.tamu.edu/ibt.html
     Comment : defunct, See AGsDB

     Database : AboutDB
     Curator : Staffan Bergh
     PI : Staffan Bergh
     Subject : ACEDB itself (Is this meta-meta-metadata)
     ACEDB 3.0
     Contact : staffan@biochem.kth.se
      URL http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/AboutDB.html 

     Database : ACeDB
     Species : Caenorhabditis elegans
     Current version: 2-10
     Curator : Jean Thierry-Mieg
     Curator : Richard Durbin
     Contact : rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
     Contact : mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr
     Last_update : May 1994

     DataBase : AceMap
     Species : Homo sapiens (Mus musculus under development)
     Focus : Physical mapping of human chromsome X and 21
     ACEDB_version : 3.0
     Curator : Hugues Roest Crollius
     PI : Hans Lehrach
     Availability : beta release of the X chr. data/models by
         anonymous ftp to
          ftp.icnet.uk in icrf-public/GenomeAnalysis/X/acemap. Get the README 
         file in the directory above.
     Contact : hrc@gea.lif.icnet.uk (Hugues Roest Crollius)
            ICRF, Lincoln's Inn Fields London, UK.
     Last_update : August 94

     Database : AGsDB  A Genus species Database
     Species : Aspergillus nidulans
     Species : Neurospora crassa
     Species : cow w/ human anchor loci
     Species : cotton (demo)
     Species : Homologs of Aspergillus cell cycle loci
               for budding and fission yeast
     PI : Leland Ellis
     Curator : Leland Ellis
     Last_update : March 1994
     ACeDB_version : 3.0 (beta still), with extensions to the Human
             C21 Models to provide for multiple species, and queries
             between species via Homologs (e.g., cell cycle loci with
             links via Homologs between Aspergillus and budding 
             C. cerevisiae) and fission (S. pombe) yeast);
             interacting loci via defined Interactions for each locus
     Models : as of 3.13.94
     Data : as of 3.13.94
     Revision :  AAnDB for Aspergillus nidulans and ABtDB for
             Bos taurus (cow) have been folded into AGsDB, and are
             not being developed futher as individual species databases.
     WWW : WWW-AGsDB is an interface of AGsDB with the World-Wide
             Web, and utilizes the WWW-ACeDB Server (nph-acedb3) of
             Guy Ducoux (ducoux@moulon.inra.fr).
     URL : http://keck.tamu.edu/ibt.html
     Contact : leland@straylight.tamu.edu

     Database : ChlamyDB
     Species : Chlamydomonas
     PI : Elizabeth Harris
     Contact : chlamy@acpub.duke.edu
     Availability : ChlamyDB 1.0, using ACEDB 3.0, is now on WWW and
            gopher (probe.nalusda.gov).  Complete version using ACECB
            3.3 will be available soon by ftp.
    URL :  http://probe.nalusda.gov:8300
     Last_update : 25 Oct, 1994

    Database : CottonDB
    Species : Gossypium hirsutum (cotton)
    PI : Russell J. Kohel
           USDA-ARS
           Southern Crops Research Laboratory
           Route 5, Box 805, College Station, Texas 77845
    Curator : Gerard R. Lazo
    Curator : Sridhar Madhavan
    Last_update : July, 1994
    ACEDB_version : 3.0
    Contact : rjk0339@zeus.tamu.edu (Russell Kohel)
    Contact : lazo@genome.tamu.edu (Gerard Lazo)
    Availability : still under construction
    Phone : 409-260-9311
    Fax : 409-260-9333

     Database : CSNDB
     Focus : Cell Signalling Molecules and Interactions
     Contact : Takako Igarashi
              National Insitute of Health Sciences
              Division of Chem-Bio Informatics
              Setagaya-ku, Tokyo, Japan 158
              taka@nihs.go.jp

     Database : EcoDB
     Species : E. coli
     PI : Staffan Bergh
     Contact : staffan@biochem.kth.se
     Availability : Proposed
     Last_update : Aug. 1994

     Database : 11DB
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : Physical mapping of chromosome 11
     Availability : under development
     Curator : Benedict Arnold
     PI : Peter Little
     Contact : Benedict Arnold
             Dept. Biochemistry,
             Imperial College,
             London, SW7 2AZ
             b.arnold@ic.ac.uk

    Database : The Encyclopaedia of the Drosophila Genome.
    Acronym : (none)
    Species : Drosophilidae (primarily D. melanogaster)
    Availability : MacFly/FlyDB-based distribution by ftp and CD-ROM due early 1995
    Developer : Suzanna Lewis
    Contact : suzi@fly2.berkeley.edu
    Developer : Cyrus Harmon
    Contact : sly@fly2.berkeley.edu
    Developer : Edward Welbourne
    Contact : eddy@gen.cam.ac.uk
    Curation : Data is provided by the collaborating organisations:
    Collaborator : The FlyBase Consortium, flybase@morgan.harvard.edu
    Collaborator : The Berkeley Drosophila Genome Project
    URL :  gopher://fly.bio.indiana.edu:70+/11/Flybase 

     Database : Flydb
     Species : Drosophila melanogaster
     Curator : Suzanna Lewis
     Contact : suzi@fly2.berkeley.edu

     Database : GrainGenes
     Species : Wheat, barley, oats, relatives
     Availability : Anonymous ftp from probe.nalusda.gov:pub/grains
     Availability : Gopher greengenes.cit.cornell.edu port 70
     Availability : Gopher probe.nalusda.gov port 7002
     Curator : David E. Matthews
     PI : Olin D. Anderson
     Contact : matthews@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu
     Contact : oandersn@wheat.usda.gov
     URL : gopher://greengenes.cit.cornell.edu/1/
     Data_version : 1.3
     Released : 12 Jan 1994
     Based_on : acedb.1-10
     Availability : See following WWW URL
     URL :  http://probe.nalusda.gov:8300
     Last_update : Feb. 1994

     Database : human.c17
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Availability :  the database is under development
     Contact : lsprilus@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il
     Focus :  mapping & sequencing of Human Chromosome 17
     Based_on: acedb.3-0
     Last_update : Jan. 1994

     Database : IGD - the Integrated Genomic Database
     Species : Homo sapiens (later mouse and other mammalian species)
     Availability : September 1994 by ftp, on-line server October 1994
     Contact : Otto Ritter  [ o.ritter@dkfz-heidelberg.de ]
     Curator : tba
     Description : IGD - the Integrated Genomic Database -
             aims to integrate multiple public general molecular
             biology and human genome specific databases into single
             logical database with unified interface to existing
             analysis tools.

     Database : LIGM-DB
     Curator : Veronique Giudicelli
     Focus : genetic and physical mapping of loci of Immunoglobulins and Tcell receptors
     PI : Marie_paule Lefranc
     Contact : Veronique Giudicelli
             LIGM IGMM UMR CNRS 9942
             BP 5051 Rte de Mende
             34000 Montpellier
             giudi@ligm.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr

     Database : Maize
     Species : Zea mays L. ssp. mays
     Focus : Maize genome
     Acedb_version : 1.9
     FTP : probe.nalusda.gov, pub directory; anonymous ftp
     Comment : Maize is an acedb front end for the Maize Genome 
             Database, MaizeDB, a SYBASE database.
     Comment : MaizeDB is updated daily and has WWW connectivity
             to external databases: GenBank (loci, alleles and
             probes), SwissProt (gene products) and the E. coli
             Stock Center (loci).
     Data : Major data categories: 4522 mapped loci (located to
             chromosome or better) including 684 mapped genes and
             1423 mapped probed sites (gene candidates); 982
             probes; 1850 map scores; 1533 gel patterns
             (Probe/Enzyme/Stock); 4231 stocks; 5105 Variations
             (alleles, DNA polymorphisms, rearrangements, etc);
             465 phenotypes; 223 traits; 547 gene products;
             5314 bibliographic references; 1979 persons with
             addresses.
     Gopher : host = teosinte.agron.missouri.edu, port = 70
     Telnet :  telnet teosinte.agron.missouri.edu 
                  login as guest, use password 'corncob'
     HTTP :  http://teosinte.agron.missouri/top.html 
     HTTP : http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedbs/index.html
                via PGD, the Plant Genome Database
     Comment : Genera is a software toolkit for creating and
             extracting data from Sybase databases; used to
             create MaizeDB and Worldwide Web connectivity.
     HTTP : Genera Info  http://cgsc.biology.yale.edu/genera.html
     Funding : MaizeDB USDA/ARS to E. Coe
     Funding : Genera NSF BIR 92-01652 to S. Letovsky and M. Berlyn
     Curator/PI : Ed Coe ed@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Pat Byrne byrne@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Georgia Davis gdavis@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Mary Polacco  maryp@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Curator : Marty Sachs, Maize Stock Center,  msachs@uiuc.edu 
     Curator : Christiane Fauron  FAURON@GENE1.med.utah.edu
     Curator : Carolyn Wetzel cmwetzel@iastate.edu
     Curator : Steve Rodermel S1SRR@ISUVAX.IASTATE.EDU
     Design : Stan Letovsky letovsky-stan@CS.YALE.EDU
     Design : Mary Berlyn mary@fetalpig.biology.yale.edu
     Systems Manager :  Denis Hancock
                            dhancock@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Contact : db_request@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu
     Last_update : 25 April 1994

     Database : MycDB
     Species : Mycobacteria
     Comment : MycDB is a collation of data on the mycobacteria,
             causative agents of tuberculosis and leprosy. It
             is centered on the mapping and sequencing projects
             under way in M.leprae and M.tuberculosis.
     PI : Staffan Bergh
     PI : Stewart Cole
     PI : Doug Smith
     Curator : Staffan Bergh
     Contact : staffan@biochem.kth.se
     Last_update : Apr. 1994
     WWW :  http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/MycDB.html
     ftp : ftp.pasteur.fr (157.99.64.12) in pub/MycDB
     ftp : kiev.physchem.kth.se (130.237.52.64) in pub/MycDB
     ftp : bioinformatics.weizmann.ac.il (132.76.55.12) in pub/databases/mycdb

     Database : PomBase
     Curator : Sean Walsh
     Curator :  Marie-Adele Rajendream
     PI : Bart Barrell
     Species : Schizosaccharomyces pombe
     Contact : svw@sanger.ac.uk
     Contact : barrell@sanger.ac.uk
     Comment : Not yet available for distribution

      DataBase : Mousedb
      Species  : Musculus Musculus
      Species  : Homo Sapiens
      ACEDB_version : 3.0 with extensions to define and display
              cytogenetic data.
      Description :  Mouse genome data from the published literature,
              including mouse genes with phenotypic effects, chromosome
              anomalies, imprinted regions and man-mouse homologies with
              associated pathological disorders. The maps are consensus
              ones. They use data, such as the HIS and anomaly data, to
              show alignments between the genetic and cytogenetic maps.
      Curator : Michelle Kirby
      Curator : Rachael Selley
      PI : Mary Lyon
      PI : Jo Peters
      Availability : Mousedb is available publicly from the UK HGMP
              Resource Centre's computing service via the INTERNET. For
              user id. please contact Administration, HGMP Resource Centre,
              Hinxton Hall, Cambridgeshire CB10 1RQ, UK. 
              Tel: (+44) 1223 494520  Fax: (+44) 1223 494510 For other
              information contact Michelle Kirby.
      Contact : kirbym@har-rbu.mrc.ac.uk  (or mkirby@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk)
               rselley@har-rbu.mrc.ac.uk
           MRC Radiobiology Unit, Chilton, Didcot, Oxon OX11 ORD
      Last_update : October 1994

     Database : RiceGenes
     Species : Rice (O. sativa)
     Availability : Anonymous ftp from probe.nalusda.gov:pub/rice 
     Availability :  Gopher nightshade.cit.cornell.edu port 70 
     Availability :  Gopher probe.nalusda.gov port 7007 
     Curator : Edie Paul
     PI : Susah McCouch
     Contact : epaul@nightshade.cit.cornell.edu
     Release : ACEDB 1-10
     Last_update : May 1994

     Database : SacchDB
     Species : Saccharomyces cerevisiae
     Focus : Budding Yeast Genome
     Acedb_version : 2.0, MacAce
     FTP : genome-ftp.stanford.edu, not available yet.
     Comment : The database is in beta test by a small number of
          yeast labs. The WWW-ACEDB gateway version is
          currently available, see HTTP below. The Gopher
          server contains only the Olson restriction map
          information and views of the resulting Clone
          (Physical) Map.
     Data : Olson/Riles Physical Map, Mortimer Genetic Maps and
          Information, Sequences from GenBank, Gene/Clone
          associations using the Wash Univ. prime clone
          filters.
     Gopher : host = genome-gopher.stanford.edu, port = 70
     HTTP : URL http://genome-www.stanford.edu 
     Funding : National Center for Human Genome Research, NIH
     PI : David Botstein, botstein@genome.stanford.edu
     Project Manager/Curator : Mike Cherry, cherry@genome.stanford.edu
     Curator : Fred Dietrich, dietrich@genome.stanford.edu
     Curator : Selena Dwight, dwight@genome.stanford.edu
     Curator : Cathy Ball, ball@genome.stanford.edu
     Systems : Dan Mosedale, mosedale@genome.stanford.edu
     Contact : yeast-curator@genome.stanford.edu
     Data_Submission : yeast-curator@genome.stanford.edu
     Last_update : 9 August 1994

     Database : SolGenes
     Coverage: Solanaceae - tomato, potato, pepper
     Availability : Anonymous ftp from probe.nalusda.gov:pub/solgenes 
     Availability :  Gopher nightshade.cit.cornell.edu port 71 
     Availability :  Gopher probe.nalusda.gov port 7006 
     Curator : Edie Paul
     PI : Steve Tanksley
     Contact : epaul@nightshade.cit.cornell.edu
     Release : ACEDB 3.0
     Last_update : May 1994

     Database : SorghumDB
     Species : Sorghum bicolor (L.) Moench
     PI : Keith F. Schertz
              USDA-ARS
              Dept. of Soil & Crop Sciences
              Texas A&M University
              College Station, TX 77843-2474
              Phone : (409) 260-9252
              FAX : (409) 845-0456
              E_mail : schertz@tamvm1.tamu.edu
     Curator : Najeeb U. Siddiqui
              Southern Crop Improvement Facility
              Crop Biotechnology Center
              Texas A&M University
              College Station, TX 77843-2123
              Phone : (409) 862-1523
              FAX : (409) 862-4790
              E_mail : nus6389@tamsun.tamu.edu
     Last_update : July 1994
     ACEDB_version : 3.0
     Availability : Under Development

     Database : SoyBase
     Species : Soybeans
     Curator :  Lisa Lorenzen
     PI : Randy Shoemaker
     Contact : lorenzen@mendel.agron.iastate.edu
     Phone : 515-294-0421
     Fax : 515-294-2299
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : Sybace
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Creator : Detlef Wolf
     Comment : Custom software --ACEDB front-end to SYBASE data
     Contact : D.Wolf@dfkz-heidelberg.de
     See_also : IGD

     Database : TreeGenes
     Species : Forest trees
     Availability : alpha, contact curator
     ACEDB_version : 1-10
     Curator : Bradley K. Sherman
     PI : David B. Neale
     Contact : Dendrome@s27w007.pswfs.gov
     Contact : bks@s27w007.pswfs.gov
     Contact : dbn@s27w007.pswfs.gov
     Last_update : March 1994
     URL : gopher://s27w007.pswfs.gov/
     URL : http://s27w007.pswfs.gov/
     URL : ftp://probe.nalusda.gov/pub/trees

     Database : 21Bdb
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : STS content mapping & sequencing of Human Chromosome 21
     Availability : by request, via ftp, world-wide-web
     Based_on : acedb.1-10 plus moulon server
     URL : ftp://genome.lbl.gov/pub/21Bdb-v1.1.tar.Z
     URL : http://genome.lbl.gov/Genome/acepage.html
     Curator : Donn F. Davy
     Contact : DFDavy@lbl.gov
     Contact : aggarwal@genome.lbl.gov
     Focus : STS content mapping & sequencing of Human Chromosome 21
     PI : Michael Palazzolo
     PI : Chris Martin
     PI : Jan-Fang Cheng
     Last_update : Apr. 1994

     Database : 22ace
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Curator : Ian Dunham
     Focus : Physical mapping of chromosome 22
     PI : Ian Dunham
     Contact : Ian Dunham
             Sanger Centre
             Hinxton Hall,
             Cambs.  UK.
             id1@sanger.ac.uk

     Database : VoxPop
     Species : Populus spp.
     Availability : contact curator
     Curator : Carl G. Riches
     PI : Reinhard F. Stettler
     Contact : cgr@poplar1.cfr.washington.edu
     Contact : STETTLER@coyote.cfr.washington.edu
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : Xace
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Curator : Gareth Maslen
     Focus : Physical mapping of chromosome X
     PI : David Bentley
     Contact : Gareth Maslen
             Sanger Centre
             Hinxton Hall,
             Cambs.  UK.
             glm@sanger.ac.uk

     Database : ?
     Species : Homo sapiens
     Focus : Physical mapping of human chromosome 6.
     Curator : Ioannis Ragoussis
     Availability : Unknown
     Contact : Guy's hospital

     Database : ?
     PI : Scott Chasalow
     Species : Potato
     Contact : Scottish Crop Institute, Dundee
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : ?
     PI : George Murphy
     PI : David Flanders
     Species : Arabidopsis thaliana
     Contact : John Innes Center, Norwich, England
     Last_update : Sept. 1993

     Database : ?
     Species : Homo Sapiens
     Focus : Physical and linkage mapping of chromosome 8
     Availability :
     Curator : Stephen Wood
     PI : Stephen Wood
     Contact : Stephen Wood
             Dept. Medical Genetics
             University of B. C.
             Vancouver, B. C.
             Canada
             swood@unixg.ubc.cq


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Q5:  What written documentation exists for ACEDB?


A5:
    From Sam Cartinhour:
       The ACEDB Documentation Server is a repository for
       documentation concerned with "A C. elegans Data Base",
       the generic genome database software designed by
       Richard Durbin (MRC, UK) and Jean Thierry-Mieg
       (CNRS, France). The server is intended as a resource
       for developers, curators, and end-users of all (not
       just plant) databases derived from ace. Eventually
       we hope to offer all kinds of documentation, from
       reprints to (technical) gossip.  The ACEDB
       documentation server is sponsored by the Plant Genome
       Database Project at the National Agricultural Library
       (USDA).  The documentation server is listed on the
       home page for the Agricultural Genome World Wide Web
       Server at http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000.

     Primary documents from the developers are:
         acedb -- A C. elegans Database: I. Users' Guide.
         acedb -- A C. elegans Database: II. Installation Guide.
         acedb -- A C. elegans Database: III. Configuration Guide.
         Syntactic Definitions for the ACEDB Data Base Manager
             --Jean Thierry-Mieg and Richard Durbin (1991-)
     
     Get By anonymous ftp from ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (130.14.20.1)
     in repository/acedb:
        ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/respository/acedb/doc*tar.Z
     And ftp://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/acedb_doc
     The files are in tex and postscript.  [I have had
     some difficulty printing these.  Jean Thierry-Mieg
     suggests latex xxxx.tex, dvi2ps xxxx.dvi > xxxx.ps, 
     lpr xxxx.ps.]

     You will find interesting documents in the wdoc
     subdirectory of the ACEDB distribution.

     The Australian National Genomic Information Service has prepared
     good documentation of the C. elegans version as
      Angisturte.ps and angistute.hqx 
     available by anonymous ftp at ncbi.hih.gov in repository/acedb/ace2.

     Cherry, J.M., Cartinhour, S.W., and Goodman, H.M. (1992) AAtDB,
     An Arabidopsis thaliana Database. Plant Molecular Biology Reporter
     10 (4): 308-309,409-410

     Tutorial manual for AAtDB:
     Cartinhour, S., Cherry, J.M., and Goodman, H.M. (1992) An
     Introduction to ACeDB: For AAtDB, An Arabidopsis thaliana
     Database. Massachusetts General Hospital. (Available on
     request in printed form from the AAtDB curator).

     A description of ACEDB:
     Cherry, J.M. and Cartinhour, S.W. (1994) ACEDB, A tool for
     biological information. in Automated DNA Sequencing and
     Analysis, edited by M.  Adams, C. Fields, and C. Venter.
     Academic Press, pages 347-356.  [text is available through
     ftp or gopher from weeds.mgh.harvard.edu]

     Another description of ACEDB for physical mapping projects:
     Dunham, I., Durbin, R., Mieg, J-T & Bentley, D.R. (1994)
     Physical mapping projects and ACEDB, in Guide to Human
     Genome Computing. Ed.  Bishop, M.J.  Academic Press,
     pages 111-158.  [text is available through ftp or
     gopher from weeds.mgh.harvard.edu]

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Q6:  Where can I find further information about ACEDB?


A6:  There is a Usenet/Biosci conference titled bionet.software.acedb.
     If you do not have access to the Biosci conferences via a
     newsreader (e.g. rn, trn, tin) you can participate in the conference
     by electronic mail.  To subscribe to the e-mail version of the
     conference send email to biosci-server@net.bio.net (UK, European
     readers use biosci@uk.ac.daresbury or biosci.daresbury.ac.uk) with
     no subject line and only the message
     
           subscribe ACEDB-SOFT
           
     in the body.  To unsubscribe send the message
     
           unsubscribe ACEDB-SOFT
           
     to the same address.
     This is an automated service.  Your e-mail address will be taken
     from the header of the message that you send.  If you then send
     mail to acedb@net.bio.net the mail will be distributed to all
     subscribers and to the electronic conference.
     All of the articles are archived on the gopher at net.bio.net.

     Mike Cherry has set up an ACEDB Developer's archive.  For
     anonymous ftp use the hostname weeds.mgh.harvard.edu and look in
     the acedb_dev directory. If you wish to contribute you can put
     files in the incoming directory.  Send a message to Mike
     (cherry@genome.stanford.edu) that you have put something in that
     directory then Mike will move it out for general access.
     For gopher you can connect to weeds.mgh.harvard.edu
     (132.183.190.21) and ...
     
        -->  N.  FTP Archives for Molecular Biology/
        
     then
     
        -->  M.  ACEDB Developer's archive/
        
     [N and M are integers which are subject to change.]

     The bionet.software. acedb.conference is archived and can be
     searched using WAIS.  Here is a Gopher-style link to the WAIS
     archive. (This is also courtesy of Mike Cherry.):
     
          #
          Type=7
          Name=ACEDB BioSci Electronic Conference
          Path=7/.index/acedb-biosci
          Host=genome-gopher.stanford.edu
          Port=70
     

     The AAtDB, Soybase, GrainGenes, Mace, and TreeGenes [see Q4]
     databases regularly submit data to the Plant Genome Database
     at the National Agricultural Library (NAL).  Nal makes this
     data available via the WWW using an http server with URL:
         
         http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/index.html
         
     You will also find a selection of models.wrm files (schemata)
     for the various databases here.  You will want to get a
     "mosaic client" to examine this.

     AboutDB is a stab at an integrated info and project tracking database
     for the 'Greater ACEDB Community'. It was conceived and implemented by
     Staffan Bergh (staffan@biochem.kth.se), the 'coordinator', during the
     ace94 workshop in Montpellier, based on an earlier effort by John
     McCarthy. The aim is to collect information on all aspects of ACEDB
     use as a database manager. Currently it contains information on
     Databases implemented in ACEDB, Colleagues in the community, some
     Tools for >curators of ACEDB databases and some of the information
     on 'magic tags' collected during the ace94 workshop.
     AboutDB can be reached at URL: http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/AboutDB.html

     Other URL's that readers with mosaic clients might want to
     examine are:
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb/acedb.html for C. elegans data
        
        
        http://kiev.physchem.kth.se/MycDB.html for Mycobacterium data 
        
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr:8001/acedb/igd.html for an integrated
            genome database.
        
        

     For information on how these were created see
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb_conf_eng.html
        
        
        http://moulon.inra.fr/acedb_conf.html (en francais)
        

     The Genome Computing Group, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
     has an anonymous ftp service at machine genome.lbl.gov
     (131.243.224.80) which contains: 
          flydb - LBL's Drosophila Acedb-style database
          21bdb - LBL's Human Chromosome 21 Acedb-style database
          querdb - LBL's query-language extensions to Acedb 
          metadata - LBL's compendium of Acedb database schema variants
          macace-aatdb-demo.hqx  -  pre-release Acedb MacIntosh version
          There is also a repository of contributed software for
          data conversions and the like.
          

     [From Otto Ritter]
     IGD - the Integrated Genomic Database - is an international
     project of DKFZ, Heidelberg (Germany), CNRS, Montpellier
     (France), ICRF, London (UK), LBL, Berkeley (USA), and MRC,
     London/Cambridge, (UK). IGD is an extensible object-oriented
     distributed information management system with one global schema, 
     physical data integration at the back-end, and local data
     management at the front-end. It supports local schema evolution
     and local data integration, and has a potential for truly virtual
     "on-the-fly" integration (federation) of its resource databases.
     Beside data integration, IGD provides graphical user interface, 
     client/server communication, and seamless interface to a growing
     number of tools for structure, sequence, genetic, physical and
     comparative mapping analysis. ACEDB is the IGD main software
     component for data management.  As a database, IGD integrates
     and references genome related data from public sources. As an
     analysis tool,  IGD provides uniform interface to existing
     programs and program packages for tructure and sequence
     analysis, genetic and physical map construction and analysis,
     etc.  In addition to the major human and mouse databases already
     planned SWISS-PROT/PIR, PDB, GDB, OMIM, CitDB, CEPH, CHLC,
     CEPH-Genethon, Genbase, UK DNA ProbeBank, RLDB2, CAD, MGD,
     MouseBackcross DB), crossreferences will be maintained to
     dataabases established around specific model organisms
     (C.elegans, D. melanogaster, S. cerevisiae,  pombe etc.).
      Refs:
      
       1/ Ritter,O.: The Integrated Genomic Database. in Computational
           Methods in Genome Research, edited by S.Suhai, Plenum,
           57-73 (1994).
       2/ Ritter,O., Kocab,P., Senger,M., Wolf,D., and Suhai,S.:
           Prototype Implementation of the Integrated Genomic
           Database, Computers and Biomedical Research, 27, 97-115 (1994)
     

     Computer staff for the UC Berkeley Drosophila physical mapping
     project the LBL Human Chromosome 21 project, and the LBL plant
     genome projects meet regularly to coordinate their ACEDB
     extension and development efforts, along with Frank Eeckman,
     who is working on the Macintosh version of ACEDB (for further
     information, contact jlmccarthy@lbl.gov). They also keep in
     close touch (via email, personal visits, etc.) with their
     counterparts in Cambridge (Richard Durbin et al), Montpellier 
     Jean Thierry-Mieg et al), and the Interated Genome Database
     project in Heidelburg (Otto Ritter, Detlef Wolf et al).

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Q7:  How should ACEDB be cited?


A7:  From the distribution:

        We realize that we have not yet published any "real" paper on
        ACEDB.  We consider however that anonymous ftp servers are a
        form of publication. We would appreciate if users of ACEDB
        could quote:
            Richard Durbin and Jean Thierry Mieg (1991-). A C. elegans
            Database.  Documentation, code and data available from
            anonymous FTP servers at lirmm.lirmm.fr,
            cele.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk and  ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.

        Papers involved in database development could quote more
        precisely:
           I.   Users' Guide. Included as part of the ACEDB distribution
         kit,
           II.  Installation Guide. Included as part of the ACEDB
         distribution
           III. Configuration Guide. Included as part of the ACEDB
         distribution

        and the preprintkit, available by Anonymous FTP from ...
           Jean Thierry-Mieg and Richard Durbin (1992). Syntactic
           Definitions for the ACEDB Data Base Manager. Included as
           part of the ACEDB distribution.

             --Jean and Richard.

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Q8: Is ACEDB object-oriented?


A8: From the ACEDB User's Guide.

    A major current vogue in computer languages and database design
    is for ``object-oriented'' systems.  It's also a source of lots
    of argument.  We are just trying to build a good system, and
    don't want to get caught in the crossfire, but we do talk about
    organising our data into objects and classes.  We have undoubtedly
    been influenced by many of the ideas going around, but it isn't
    likely our system would be regarded as kosher by the object-
    oriented community.  In particular there is no class hierarchy, nor
    inheritance, and it is written in a modular but non-ideological way
    in straight C. However display and disk storage methods are class
    dependent.

    In some ways the class hierarchy is replaced by our system of
    models and trees, which seems to be rather unusual.  We think it
    is very natural for the representation of biological information,
    where for some members of a class a lot might be known about some
    aspect, but for most only a little is known.

    The advantages of our sytem over a relational database, such as
    Oracle or Sybase, is our ability to refine our descriptions without
    rebuilding the database and the possibility of organising the
    storage of data on disk according to their class, i.e. we store in
    a very different way the tree-objects and the long stretches of
    DNA sequence.

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Q9:  What's all this about Gopher/WAIS/ftp/WWW ...


A9:  These terms all refer to Internet protocols.
     An excellent introduction to the Internet is:
       _The Whole Internet User's Guide & Catalog_,
       by Ed Krol, O'Reilly & Associates, 1992.
     Or ask your system administrator to provide you with
     a gopher client or mosaic client and begin navigating
     on your own. 

     URL is a Universal Resource Locator on the World-Wide
     Web (WWW).  There are many free Internet browsers
     available that allow you to use an Internet connection
     and a URL to access services.  Mosaic may be the
     most popular and it is available for Mac, PC or Unix
     via anonymous ftp from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu.

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Q10: How can I get on/off the ACEDB announcements mailing list?


A10: To get on or off the mailing list send mail to
     rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk or mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr.
     New releases of the software are announced to this
     list and very little else.  The  BIOSCI newsgroup
     bionet.software.acedb is on the mailing list.

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Q11: When and where is the Next ACEDB Workshop?


    The 1995 ACEDB Conference and Workshop will be held May 14-27,
    1995, at the Isis Oasis, a small retreat center in Geyserville,
    about 80 miles north of SanFrancisco in Sonoma County, California.
    We will have exclusive use of the entire retreat center, including
    the theater (for workstations and primary sessions), dining room,
    lodge, and other residential facilities.

    For more information send email to ace95@genome.lbl.gov
    or vist URL http://genome.lbl.gov/ace95.html on the WWW.

    If you would like to see some pictures of the
    ACEDB '94 Workshop in St. Matthieu de Treviers taken by Mike
    Cherry with the camera on an SGI workstation, the URL is: 
    http://genome-www.stanford.edu/~cherry/pics/acedb-94.pics.html.
    John Morris has provided some more at URL: 
    http://weeds.mgh.harvard.edu/ace94/ace94.image.html.

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Q411:Who prepared this document & where is the current version?


    [Note to international readers: 411 is the phone number for
    information in the USA. --bks]

    This document will be posted monthly to the BIOSCI newsgroup
    bionet.software.acedb and to USENET conference news.answers.
    It is intended to be used as an index to ACEDB databases and
    to information about the database software.

    The latest text version of the ACEDB FAQ should be available via
    anonymous ftp at machine
    
    net.bio.net
    as file
    pub/BIOSCI/ACEDB/ACEDB.FAQ or at
    rtfm.mit.edu as pub/usenet/news.answers/acedb-faq. Answer 3
    demonstrates a sample FTP session.  If you only have
    electronic mail, the FAQ can be retrieved from
    mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu.

    There is an HyperText Markup Language (HTML) version of this
    document available on the World Wide Web:
        http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/acedbfaq.html
        http://s27w007.pswfs.gov/Homepage/acedbfaq.html

    Curators of ACEDB databases should take note of Question 4 and
    keep me apprised of changes.

    Errors of commission or omission are unintentional.  If I have
    forgotten to give you credit please let me know.  Please
    send comments and corrections to: acedbfaq@s27w007.pswfs.gov

    Major contributions in getting this FAQ off the ground
    were made by John McCarthy and Mike Cherry.  Other
    contributors include:

        Lisa Lorenzen
        David Matthews
        Edie Paul
        Donn Davy
        Eric De Mund
        Sam Cartinhour


    Please cite as:
    Sherman,B.K., ACEDB Genome Database Software FAQ,
    ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/acedb-faq,
    http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/acedbfaq.html,
    1993,1994, approx. 50K bytes.

    To add or modify information in this document, please
    send mail to: acedbfaq@s27w007.pswfs.gov

      
      Bradley K. Sherman
      Dendrome Project                
      Institute of Forest Genetics    
      P.O. Box 245, Berkeley, CA, 94701
      Phone: 510-559-6437 Fax: 510-559-6440  
      

    The Dendrome Project and TreeGenes are funded by the
    USDA ARS Plant Genome Research Program.

          --bks
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Fri Dec 16 22:00:00 1994
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From: ptv@druid.epm.ornl.gov (Sergey Petrov)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: Ace GUIs -- model and data files
Date: 16 Dec 1994 19:51:20 GMT
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In article 94Dec14131132@central.cis.upenn.edu, susan@central.cis.upenn.edu (Susan Davidson) writes:
>
>I am interested in this because we are looking at translating data
>"into" and "out of Ace" format.  Getting data "out of" Ace format is
>useful for integrating data from Acedb databases with data from other
>sources, such as relational and ASN.1.  Getting data "into" Ace format
>will allow us to use the great user interfaces that have been
>developed in connection with Ace and still maintain the data in our
>own local databases.
>
>If you are familiar with this part of Ace, or know of a document and
>its source that would be helpful, please let me know.
>
>Thanks, 
>Susan Davidson
>
We did it to for a Sybase database: a script produces a report in .ace format.
Weak point: you need to reload ACE any time data changed.
Please, let me know if you (or anybody) are interested in this stuff:
Ill be glad to send all information I have

To export data from ACE, one needs to process .ace file (e.g., simple awk) and
bcp it into Sybase. A simple but cumbersome process.

The tricky point is to design compatible ACE and Sybase DBs....

Sergey Petrov



From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Dec 19 22:00:00 1994
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From: pbrunk@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Paul Brunk)
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Subject: database size?
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Hi all:

I'm working on getting a huge chunk of data into .ace format.  The
ace file is likely to be at least 20 MB, and there's plenty more data
where that came from.  Does the acedb code imply a theoretical limit
to the size of the databae (blocks1.wrm)?  (I imagine changing a few
variable values would fix this.)  Perhaps more relevantly, have people
encountered practical limits on database size when it comes to
actually running the thing?  We have a SPARCstation 20 with 32 MB RAM,
but everything has its limits.

Thanks.

--
Paul Brunk, ancillary staff
University of Georgia Botany Department
pbrunk@dogwood.botany.uga.edu


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Dec 20 22:00:00 1994
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From: D.Wolf@dkfz-heidelberg.de (Detlef Wolf)
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Subject: database size?
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> I'm working on getting a huge chunk of data into .ace format.  The
> ace file is likely to be at least 20 MB, and there's plenty more data
> where that came from.  Does the acedb code imply a theoretical limit
> to the size of the databae (blocks1.wrm)?  (I imagine changing a few
> variable values would fix this.)  Perhaps more relevantly, have people
> encountered practical limits on database size when it comes to
> actually running the thing?  We have a SPARCstation 20 with 32 MB RAM,
> but everything has its limits.

we run ACEDB on a 1GB database and it works well. loading the whole
data form .ace files takes 4.5 hours.

we use a Silicon Graphics challenge computer with 128MB RAM.

with that database size acedb needs about 60MB main memory when running.
this depends much on the length of the object names used.

also you have to add some more lines for files to wspec/database.map.

depending on your data you should be carefull with using ?Text
in models.wrm, since those entries are automatically crossref'ed.
So, if a ?Text value occurs frequently, inserting new values is slow
since the backreferences are maintainded as a linked list.

best regards
Detlef

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mbp-sgi5 21% cat database.map
17 13
1 local ACEDB block1.wrm 5000 0 0
1 local ACEDB block2.wrm 20000 19968 0
1 local ACEDB block3.wrm 50000 49920 0
1 local ACEDB block4.wrm 50000 49920 0
1 local ACEDB block5.wrm 80000 79872 0
1 local ACEDB block6.wrm 100000 99840 0
1 local ACEDB block7.wrm 100000 99840 0
1 local ACEDB block8.wrm 100000 99840 0
1 local ACEDB block9.wrm 100000 99840 0
1 local ACEDB block10.wrm 100000 99840 0
1 local ACEDB block11.wrm 100000 99840 0
1 local ACEDB block12.wrm 100000 99840 0
1 local ACEDB block13.wrm 100000 99840 0
1 local ACEDB block14.wrm 100000 69888 0
1 local ACEDB block15.wrm 100000 0 0
1 local ACEDB block16.wrm 100000 0 0
1 local ACEDB block17.wrm 100000 0 0

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Dec 28 22:00:00 1994
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From: "Martin L. Ferguson" <martinf@lamar.colostate.edu>
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Subject: How do you enter protein sequences
Date: 29 Dec 1994 19:30:56 GMT
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Greetings all,

If you are using a ?Sequence model that includes Peptide, how do you
enter the protein sequence?  I tried 'AA : "name"' like one would
do 'DNA : "name"' for a DNA sequence.  It returns a parse error.

Thanks, Martin
	mferguso@klab.agsci.colostate.edu

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Dec 29 22:00:00 1994
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From: rd@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Richard Durbin)
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Subject: protein sequence
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The public release version 2 of ACEDB will not accept protein sequence.
He have, however, added that feature some time ago, and the more recent
version 3 releases should accept protein sequence in class Peptide, not
AA, in the same type of format as DNA, e.g.

Peptide HBA_HUMAN
VLSPADKTNVKAAWGKVGAHAGEYGAEALERMFLSFPTTKTYFPHFDLSHGSAQVKGHGK
KVADALTNAVAHVDDMPNALSALSDLHAHKLRVDPVNFKLLSHCLLVTLAAHLPAEFTPA
VHASLDKFLASVSTVLTSKYR

The new version 4 (coming soon) will contain this code to parse and dump
amino acid sequences, and there will also be a protein display package like
the DNA display -- probably very basic in the first release.

Note that if protein sequences are present, they are used by the blixem
multiple alignment viewer, in place of external fetched sequences.  This
is simpler to maintain, and substantially faster.

Richard

