From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 01 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Sean Eddy Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re: ACEDB data updates WS3.4-18 and 4-19 Date: 2 Oct 1997 20:30:08 +0100 Lines: 20 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <610so0$c0d@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Reply-To: eddy@sequencer.wustl.edu X-filtered-with: Spamcan version 0.94 In-reply-to: <199709050931.KAA16264@islay.sanger.ac.uk> (message from Richard Durbin on Fri, 5 Sep 1997 10:31:01 +0100 (BST)) Original-To: acedb_distrib@sanger.ac.uk WS3.4-19 doesn't install for me using ace 4.5-irix6.4, with the following message: internal system error: parse error near line 139988 in G44D18 : Tag Briggsae_canonical does not fit model Is this a known problem? - Sean Eddy p.s. The new INSTALL script also seems to have deleted our wspec/passwd.wrm and replaced it with the default. (Just fyi; it was easy for me to fix.) From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 01 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!eru.mt.luth.se!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!131.103.1.102!iagnet.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: "Kevin" Newsgroups: ab.software.developers,alt.comp.software.financial,alt.comp.software.tools,alt.fan.dean-stark.software.tester,alt.geo-software,at.tuwien.software,bfm.programmers.software.bondcalc,bionet.software,bionet.software.acedb,bionet.software.gcg,bionet. Subject: Chat in different Languages! Live time French, Spanish, Gerrman, <-> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:46:14 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. 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Lines: 25 Message-ID: <610tqo$24s@chile.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.34.104.117 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Xref: biosci bionet.software:19681 bionet.software.acedb:1464 bionet.software.gcg:2817 Chat in different Languages! Live time French, Spanish, Gerrman, <-> English This technology integrates the Universal Translator with our new Internet chat server. The server allows people of different languages to communicate with real-time automatic translation, in Internet chat rooms. Open forums of instantaneous online conversations from one language to another. 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Currently running: German, French, And Spanish! www.wforce.com From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 02 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!usenet From: Martin Hilbers Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re: ACEDB data updates WS3.4-18 and 4-19 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 09:01:05 +0100 Organization: SEQNET Lines: 39 Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <3434A641.41C6@dl.ac.uk> References: <610so0$c0d@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: s-ind2.dl.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP12) Sean Eddy wrote: > > WS3.4-19 doesn't install for me using ace 4.5-irix6.4, with the > following message: > > internal system error: parse error > near line 139988 in G44D18 : Tag > Briggsae_canonical does not fit model > > Is this a known problem? > > - Sean Eddy I did not see that with that ace - but then, I'm running it under irix 5.3.. > > p.s. The new INSTALL script also seems to have deleted our > wspec/passwd.wrm and replaced it with the default. (Just fyi; it was > easy for me to fix.) This occurs to me each time new updates arrive. (And each time I intend to contact the acedb people about this, which I then forget to do). But indeed it would be conveniant if passwd.wrm would not be rewritten when one updates. 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Thank you, Vanakkam Illayabarathy From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 02 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: briggsae bug Date: 3 Oct 1997 14:29:24 +0100 Lines: 8 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <612rvk$ntd@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: acedb@dl.ac.uk the sopurce code was untarred by hand after the updata files the source tar file does not contain the briggsae tag which is introduced in update 19 use INSTALL jean From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 02 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!newsreader.wustl.edu!not-for-mail From: eddy@wol.wustl.edu (Sean Eddy) Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re: briggsae bug Date: 03 Oct 1997 10:40:51 -0500 Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Lines: 25 Distribution: bionet Message-ID: References: <612rvk$ntd@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Reply-To: eddy@genetics.wustl.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: wol.wustl.edu In-reply-to: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg's message of 3 Oct 1997 14:29:24 +0100 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 In article <612rvk$ntd@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg writes: >the sopurce code was untarred by hand after the updata files >the source tar file does not contain the briggsae tag which is >introduced in update 19 > >use INSTALL Yes, that's probably it. INSTALL doesn't handle the case of a multiple architecture installation. (For us, both Linux and SGI IRIX binaries.) I did source INSTALL for the Linux installation, moved bin to bin.linux, then unpacked the IRIX executable distribution -- which must've clobbered parts of wspec/. All fixed now. Thanks for the help! Sean -- - Sean Eddy, Ph.D. - Dept. of Genetics, Washington University School of Medicine - 660 S. Euclid Box 8232, St. Louis MO 63110, USA - mailto://eddy@genetics.wustl.edu http://genome.wustl.edu/eddy From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 08 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!univ-lyon1.fr!jussieu.fr!univ-angers.fr!ciril.fr!u-strasbg.fr!news From: Simon Whitfield Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: ace models for mouse breeding data Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 13:22:52 +0200 Organization: CRC - Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg France Lines: 10 Message-ID: <343CBE8C.230E@igbmc.u-strasbg.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: titus.u-strasbg.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4d) Does anyone know there whereabouts of any ace models that could be used for storing mouse breeding data (genealogies, crosses, births, deaths, genotype information etc.)? Thanks, Simon Whitfield -- simon@igbmc.u-strasbg.fr IGBMC, BP 163, 67404 Illkirch Cedex, C.U. de Strasbourg, France. Phone (+33) 03 88 65 34 33 Fax (+33) 03 88 65 32 46 From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 09 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews") Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: no empty values for ?Text Date: 9 Oct 1997 18:50:31 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 18 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9710100150.AA08284@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net In ace 4_5 it's no longer allowed to enter "" or " " for a value of type ?Text. Does anyone have a problem with this? I used "" in some cases where a tag had multiple subfields and emptiness of the ?Text ones wasn't very noteworthy. E.g. model: ?Probe Wheat_polymorphism ?Text ?Restriction ?Text //Chromosome, Enzyme, Score. E.g. '2D EcoRI "15 (2/15)"' , data: Probe : "xyz" Wheat_polymorphism "" HindIII "0.0 (1,13)" Is the "" option still available for Text's, as opposed to ?Text's? - Dave From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 09 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: empty text Date: 10 Oct 1997 09:25:11 +0100 Lines: 58 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <61kop7$2ao@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: acedb@dl.ac.uk consider acedb> model A2 ?A2 A Text Text Int B Text ?Text Int C Text we no longer allow emty or blank ?Text, but this is ok for Text example: acedb> parse // Type in your data in .ace format, then CTRL-D to finish A2 a21 A toto tuutu 67 A2 a31 A "" tutu 42 // 2 objects read with 0 errors// 2 Active Objects acedb> show A2 : "a21" A toto tuutu 67 A2 : "a31" A tutu 42 // 2 object dumped // 2 Active Objects acedb> parse // Type in your data in .ace format, then CTRL-D to finish A2 a41 B toto "" 31 // Parse error near line 2 in a41 : Blank object names names are illicit, sorry ************* Do you think that empty ?Text : " " beeing equivalent to "" should be allowed back in future releases personally, i would say yes, note that the ace dump is correct: acedb> show -a A2 : "a21" A "toto" "tuutu" 67 A2 : "a31" A "" "tutu" 42 From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 09 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!thetimes.pixel.kodak.com!news.kodak.com!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.nysernet.net!news.nysernet.net!207.41.200.131!news-pen-1.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!server1.netnews.ja.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Richard Durbin Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: empty values for ?Text (answer to #1414) Date: 10 Oct 1997 10:48:10 +0100 Lines: 21 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <61ktkq$73b@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: acedb@dl.ac.uk Dave Matthews says he used to use "" or " " for ?Text where he wanted to skip an item in a multiple-item field, as in > Probe : "xyz" > Wheat_polymorphism "" HindIII "0.0 (1,13)" We made this illegal in 4_5. This was necessary because all items in a class must have a unique name, and the 0th item with an implicit empty name was already used for storing the model. (Remember that ?Text is a handled as a class just like ?Probe). It turns out that using "" gave spurious references to the models, and even allowed people to edit the models in alarming ways. This was definitely a bug/loophole. I suggest that you use some symbol such as "-" as a convention for missing data. You can still have empty Text, as opposed to ?Text. 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Maybe you have friends interested in indexing ? -- **************************************************************************** Artur Trzeciak "Niemen" home page: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~aqt mailto:A.Trzeciak-ACS97@cs.bham.ac.uk *************************************************************************** From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 16 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate.berkeley.edu!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!server1.netnews.ja.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!mserv1.dl.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: indexing Date: 17 Oct 1997 12:04:17 +0100 Lines: 113 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <627gnh$fth@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: A.Trzeciak-ACS97@cs.bham.ac.uk this year, i have been expanding the indexing in acedb works as folows objects in acedb "http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs" are likje tree example Locus : "ace-1" Type Gene Reference_Allele p1000 Phenotype p1000 : class A acetylcholinesterase reduced 100%; no behavioral phenotype alone (ES1 ME3) but ace-2;ace-1 is uncoordinated (hypercontracted) and ace-2;ace-3;ace-1 is L1 lethal. NA7. See also e1572 Molecular_information Sequence EM:CERNAACE.1 EM:CERNAACE.2 F01G12.4 W09B12.1 EMBL:CERNAACE.1 EMBL:CERNAACE.2 Map X Position 24.1192 Error 0.009721 Positive Positive_clone W09B12 Mapping_data 2_point ace-2; ace-3; ace-1/unc-3 Multi_point 195 196 Pos_neg_data mnDf4 does not delete ace-1. mnDp1 includes ace-1. mnDp8 includes ace-1. mnDp9 includes ace-1. mnDp25 does not include ace-1. mnDp27 includes ace-1. mnDf4 does not delete ace-1. mnDf41 deletes ace-1. mnDf42 deletes ace-1. mnDf8 does not delete ace-1. mnDf3 does not delete ace-1. mnDf1 deletes ace-1. mnDp1 includes ace-1. mnDp14 includes ace-1. mnDf41 deletes ace-1. Allele e1572 p1000 Strain ace-2(g72)I; ace-1(p1000)X. unc-3(p1001) ace-1(p1000)X. Reference Isolation, characterization and epistasis of fluoride-resistant mutants of Caenorhabditis elegans. cDNA sequence, gene structure, and in vitro expression of ace-1, a gene encoding acetylcholinesterase of class-A in the nematode Caenorhabditis elegans. Analysis of the 5' Transcriptional Regulatory Region of the ace-1 Gene in C. elegans. ACE-1, THE GENE ENCODING ACETYLCHOLINESTERASE OF CLASS A IN C. ELEGANS AND C. BRIGGSAE Characterization of a null mutation in ace-1, the gene encoding class A acetylcholinesterase in the decribed by a schema before going to disk, a finger print of the object is taken and memeorized as a bitset with following info: presence of indexed-tags + boolean answer to filters an indexed-tag is every tag of level 1, in this case Type, Molecular_information,Map ,Positive ,Mapping_data ,Allele ,Strain ,Reference plus any tag explicitelly declared as indexed in a configuration file, suppose tag Gene a filter is a possibly complex query local to a single object example: Filter COUNT Reference > 5 --------- then we define subclasses, as satisfying certain filetrs memebers of subclasses are known without opening the disk these subclasses are more an automatic classification then the subclasses of other OO systems furtehrmore, when, in any query, you refer to the presence of a tag, i fth eobject is not yet open, rather than opning it, we first search in the indices for the fisrt indexed tag above it. Suppose i search for Find Locus where allele = e1572 (of course, i could rather search allele e1572 and backtrck directly to its gene, but suppose there is no double cross referencing between gene an allele) then i acn only find the answer among genes having at least one allele and this is known from the index, so i will only explore a more limited number of genes. If i serach for Phenotype, i will look among those having tag Gene those are the possible ---- to summarize the indexing can answer in time zero yes, no, may-be and the may-be have to be accessed the real difficulty would be to use the info of the filters when presented with another arbitrary query i regard this problem as too difficult. If you are interested i can give more details From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Oct 20 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!oleane!jussieu.fr!infobiogen.fr!lovelace.infobiogen.fr!pollet From: Nicolas Pollet Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: tablemaker&homologies Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:35:57 +0200 Organization: "GIS INFOBIOGEN, 7 rue Guy Moquet BP8, 94801 VILLEJUIF, France" Lines: 18 Message-ID: Reply-To: Nicolas Pollet NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.infobiogen.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear all Ace gurus, I would like to make use of table maker to produce a table of homologies using the score values (a float value). For the moment I did not succeed because in front of this value there is two tags, ?Protein or ?DNA and ?Method. Thank you in advance for your help in this. 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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 22 23:00:00 1997 From: "Stephen" Newsgroups: 3b,3b.tech,5col.forsale,alt.angst.xibo.sex,alt.binaries.w-software,alt.community.local-money,alt.comp.software.tools,at.tuwien.software,bionet.software.acedb,bionet.software.gcg,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.services Subject: 2% OVER COST FOR CPU HARDWARE & SUPPLIES Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:32:53 -0400 Lines: 6 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.243.133.154 Message-ID: <344e8d69.0@news.bravo.net> Path: biosci!CS.Arizona.EDU!noao!ncar!newshost.lanl.gov!news2.es.net!newsrelay.iastate.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.48.46.15!news.bravo.net!207.243.133.154 Xref: biosci bionet.software.acedb:1486 bionet.software.gcg:2856 YES!!! COMPUTER HARDWARE, SUPPLIES AND PERIPHERALS FOR AS 2% OVER COST! http://www.computer-supplies.com Better check it out NOW!!! From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 22 23:00:00 1997 From: "Stephen" Newsgroups: 3b,3b.tech,5col.forsale,alt.angst.xibo.sex,alt.binaries.w-software,alt.community.local-money,alt.comp.software.tools,at.tuwien.software,bionet.software.acedb,bionet.software.gcg,bionet.software.pc,bionet.software.srs,bionet.software.staden,bi Subject: 20M of internet acctg software for $5M! Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:04:28 -0400 Lines: 27 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.243.133.154 Message-ID: <344e94d0.0@news.bravo.net> Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.48.46.15!news.bravo.net!207.243.133.154 Xref: biosci bionet.software.acedb:1485 bionet.software.gcg:2855 bionet.software.srs:826 bionet.software.staden:559 Here's HOW. I have WON a legal copy of Data Pro EZ NOW! accounting software with all you need to link this software directly to the internet. It will update your inventory immediately directly to the internet. Show pictures of every product and change it in seconds if you need to. You can set up for your customers to purchase DIRECTLY ON LINE! Link it with other modules and have your customers check the status of an order, make payments directly towards their account. See their account balances....and MUCH MUCH MORE! Because I have WON it directly from Data Pro I am entitled to sell this software NO STRINGS ATTACHED for what ever I want. If we had not already had an on line system we would be using it right now. So now instead of buying it from them for $20M I'm willing to sell my copy for $5M Data Pro sells it right now for $20,000.00 go and see! I can sell 1 copy ONLY for just $5,000.00 First check out http://www.dpro.com and take a tour of a sample store. Then check out their price for the internet linking software EZ NOW!. You'll see it's $20M or more. Then visit http://www.computer-supplies.com Do a search under our "SEARCH" engine for "Data Pro" and check out our price. Remember I only have 1 copy This can never be repeated again! Better check it out NOW!!! From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 22 23:00:00 1997 From: "Stephen" Newsgroups: 3b,3b.tech,5col.forsale,alt.angst.xibo.sex,alt.binaries.w-software,alt.community.local-money,alt.comp.software.tools,at.tuwien.software,bionet.software.acedb,bionet.software.gcg,bionet.software.pc,bionet.software.srs,bionet.software.staden,bi Subject: 20M of internet linked accounting software for $5M! Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:59:12 -0400 Lines: 30 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.243.133.154 Message-ID: <344e9394.0@news.bravo.net> Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.48.46.15!news.bravo.net!207.243.133.154 Xref: biosci bionet.software.acedb:1484 bionet.software.gcg:2854 bionet.software.srs:825 bionet.software.staden:558 Here's HOW. I have WON a legal copy of Data Pro EZ NOW! accounting software with all you need to link this software directly to the internet. It will update your inventory immediately directly to the internet. Show pictures of every product and change it in seconds if you need to. You can set up for your customers to purchase DIRECTLY ON LINE! Link it with other modules and have your customers check the status of an order, make payments directly towards their account. See their account balances....and MUCH MUCH MORE! Because I have WON it directly from Data Pro I am entitled to sell this software NO STRINGS ATTACHED for what ever I want. If we had not already had an on line system we would be using it right now. So now instead of buying it from them for $20M I'm willing to sell my copy for $5M Data Pro sells it right now for $20,000.00 go and see! I can sell 1 copy ONLY for just $5,000.00 First check out http://www.dpro.com and take a tour of a sample store. Then check out their price for the internet linking software EZ NOW!. You'll see it's $20M or more. Then visit http://www.computer-supplies.com Do a search under our "SEARCH" engine for "Data Pro" and check out our price. Remember I only have 1 copy This can never be repeated again! Better check it out NOW!!! From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 22 23:00:00 1997 From: "Stephen" Newsgroups: 3b,3b.tech,5col.forsale,alt.angst.xibo.sex,alt.binaries.w-software,alt.community.local-money,alt.comp.software.tools,at.tuwien.software,bionet.software.acedb,bionet.software.gcg,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.services Subject: 2 % OVER WHOLESALE - INKJET CARTRIDGES Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:34:56 -0400 Lines: 6 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.243.133.154 Message-ID: <344e8de4.0@news.bravo.net> Path: biosci!CS.Arizona.EDU!noao!ncar!uchinews!news.spss.com!newsrelay.netins.net!mr.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.48.46.15!news.bravo.net!207.243.133.154 Xref: biosci bionet.software.acedb:1487 bionet.software.gcg:2857 YES!!! COMPUTER HARDWARE, SUPPLIES AND PERIPHERALS FOR AS 2% OVER COST! http://www.computer-supplies.com Better check it out NOW!!! From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 22 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!eecs-usenet-02.mit.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.embl-heidelberg.de!usenet From: Ramu Chenna Newsgroups: 3b,3b.tech,5col.forsale,alt.angst.xibo.sex,alt.binaries.w-software,alt.community.local-money,alt.comp.software.tools,at.tuwien.software,bionet.software.acedb,bionet.software.gcg,bionet.software.pc,bionet.software.srs,bionet.software.staden,bi Subject: Re: 20M of internet linked accounting software for $5M! Date: 23 Oct 1997 10:00:35 GMT Organization: EMBL, Heidelberg, Germany Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <62n783$ndb@lion.embl-heidelberg.de> References: <344e9394.0@news.bravo.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shag.embl-heidelberg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12IS (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) X-URL: news:344e9394.0@news.bravo.net Xref: biosci bionet.software.acedb:1488 bionet.software.gcg:2858 bionet.software.srs:827 bionet.software.staden:560 "Stephen" wrote: count balances....and MUCH MUCH MORE! > > >Data Pro sells it right now for >$20,000.00 go and see! I can sell 1 copy ONLY for do not you live with neighbours ? if you can sell only 1 copy you can sell it to them, why to put it on internet ? Foolish! ramu From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 26 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: acedb to netscape Date: 27 Oct 1997 12:00:37 -0000 Lines: 20 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <631vp5$nhp@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: acedb@dl.ac.uk, hotelier@ensam.inra.fr the document http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/ace97/ACEDB_2_WWW.html does NOT YET corresponds to the distributed acedb upto and including acedb.4_5, use the generic external call mechanism in any class, add a line Pick_me_to_call Text Text and in the object Pick_me_to_call Mosaic "http:\/\/www.truc.fr/ici/machin.html" en cliquant Pick_me_to_call il y a lancement de l'exe wscripts/Mosaic avec le param "http:\/\/www.truc.fr/ici/machin.html" an peut de cette amniere appleler n'importe quoi text1; nom du script text2 = ligne de commande du script From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 26 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu!slider.bme.ri.ccf.org!news From: Richard Gronostajski Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Pictures in ACEDB 4_5 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:30:55 -0500 Organization: Cleveland Clinic Foundation Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3453FCDD.2F738756@cesmtp.ccf.org> Reply-To: gronosr@cesmtp.ccf.org NNTP-Posting-Host: gronos.ri.ccf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, I've managed to install quite easily ACEDB 4_5 up to WS3.4-19 on an SGI box. Everything worked in the install script except the automatic mail to confirm the installation. The database works fine, except that unfortunately, the pictures don't work! Is there something I have to tweak to get the pictures to display? Thanks for any help you can lend. Richard M. Gronostajski Assoc. Staff Cleveland Clinic Foundation Lerner Research Institute Dept. of Cancer Biology, NN1-14 9500 Euclid Ave. Cleveland, OH. 44195 Assoc. Prof. Case Western Reserve Univ. Dept. of Biochemistry Phone:216-445-6629 Fax:216-445-6269 C.C.F. homepage http://www.ccf.org/ri/pi/gronosta.html C.W.R.U. homepage http://www.cwru.edu/CWRU/Dept/Med/biochemistry/faculty/gronostajski.html C. elegans Webpage http://eatworms.swmed.edu/Worm_labs/Gronostajski/ From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Oct 27 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: FREE CABLE Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER BUILD YOUR OWN DESCRAMBLER FAST CHEAP AND EASY Date: 28 Oct 1997 04:33:43 GMT Organization: FREE CABLE Lines: 28 Message-ID: <633pv7$oiq@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: orl-fl3-03.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Oct 27 8:33:43 PM PST 1997 CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER BUILD YOUR OWN DESCRAMBLER FAST CHEAP AND EASY Just a few inexpensive parts from Radio Shack and a little time and you can descramble every cable channel. 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The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/. If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet information searches or answer scientific questions. Please post those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. Contents: -------- 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! ------------------------------ BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our Web site at http://www.bio.net/. We need just a few minutes of your time to help us serve you. You can do two important things which will take very little time for you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you. First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the archives. You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as described in item #1 below. Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term. Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass this message on to your marketing or marketing communications department or other appropriate group. Please ask them to help support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are interested, they can then contact us for further information at our tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net. 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. -------------------------------------------------------- As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net. One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured properly to send e-mail. Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS index. The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address database described in another item further below. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. ------------------------------------------------------- BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups), mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/. The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net). Unfortunately it is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of newsgroups and mailing lists. These attempts to grab free advertising are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net terminology. USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the mailing lists. However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses and hit these too, so neither medium is immune. What should you do personally if you get junk mail? --------------------------------------------------- Just delete it and move on without reading it further. Filing a protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from. Unless you really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing. What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups? ---------------------------------------------------- The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup. If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape. Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists completely. Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the time to review each message before it goes out. We have set up software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed. This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass it on, say about 1 min. per message. Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible for their newsgroup. The discussions leaders and their e-mail addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. If a newsgroup is being hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group. Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your complaint. With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net. We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator is willing to do the work. For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this entails only a few minutes of work each day. Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings on the USENET distribution. Unfortunately there are easy ways for determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET, but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if the newsgroup is moderated. You can also access our newsgroups over the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net. While this Web interface will not stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of your personal mail files. For those of you with local USENET news systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new newsgroups and recent postings. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. ------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the newsgroups and mailing lists. People who do this only bother everyone on the lists to no avail. Please be sure to follow the proper procedures below. Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at http://www.bio.net. Below we give an example utilizing the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites: Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI ------------------------------------------------------------------ node at computer net.bio.net: ---------------------------- A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for the group. These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet. For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is methods@net.bio.net. The listname is the portion of the address to the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods". The listname is used with the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below. B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to biosci-server@net.bio.net. Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup posting addresses! Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it will be ignored. C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g., subscribe methods unsubscribe methods end Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines. The server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list. Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells you that you are not a member. Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at -------------------------------------------------------------------- computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk): ------------------------------------------------- To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended. The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the appropriate commands are sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk, NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses. As usual, include the text in the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored. To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use unsub bionet-news Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. ----------------------------------------------------------- Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have not already done so. You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL http://www.bio.net/adrform.html. The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is http://www.bio.net/). If you are not directly on the Internet but can reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user directory. waismail use is described above. You can also request a user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net. Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your address information is still up-to-date. Because of our limited personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have resources to edit old forms.