From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Jan 01 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!TUNA.NET!amiller From: amiller@TUNA.NET ("Andrew Miller") Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: free medical image 3D visualization software for Windows95/NT Date: 1 Jan 1998 16:48:12 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 22 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <19980102004705758.AAA85@Meldar> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Hello, Just to let you know there's free medical image 3D visualization software (called NeuroModeller) for the Wintel environment available at: http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/amiller/index.html (version 1.07) http://users.infohouse.com/amiller/home.htm (version 1.06) .... download file size is 640 KB. NeuroModeller is a research effort of Cornell Medical Center, Division of Neurosurgery. Sincerely, Andrew Miller, MD amiller@infohouse.com From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Jan 01 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!mpl.orstom.fr!Thierry.Valero From: Thierry.Valero@mpl.orstom.fr ("VALERO Thierry ", Orstom/GeneTrop/RGAPT) Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: ACEDB - When next training or presentation in France (South of ?) Date: 2 Jan 1998 06:24:04 -0800 Organization: ORSTOM Lines: 18 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <34ACF833.7618@mpl.orstom.fr> Reply-To: Thierry.Valero@mpl.orstom.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Bonjour, I would like to know if a training/presentation of acedb is planned during the coming monthes, in France, in South of France or in Montpellier ? T.Valero -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ! MESSAGE PERSONNEL : Ce message n'engage que son auteur. ! +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Thierry VALERO Tel. +33 (0)4.67.41.6240 ! ! 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Druzil wrote: > > this site contain a lot of cool warez... > > http://www.chez.com/druzil2 > > ce site contient beaucoup de warez... > > http://www.chez.com/druzil2 From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Jan 04 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: 『最新軟體』另『$HK68代製光碟.』 Date: 5 Jan 1998 22:14:52 -0000 Lines: 3 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <68rm0s$pg9@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Reply-To: sample@whynot.net Comments: Authenticated Sender is X-UIDL: 10293287_192832.222 X-PMFLAGS: 10322341.10 Original-To: 『最新軟體』另『$HK68代製光碟.』 http://home.netvigator.com/~ss62 From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Jan 06 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!agate!logbridge.uoregon.edu!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!newsfeed.eerie.fr!jussieu.fr!infobiogen.fr!lovelace.infobiogen.fr!pollet From: Nicolas Pollet Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: webace & aceserver Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:58:34 +0100 Organization: "GIS INFOBIOGEN, 7 rue Guy Moquet BP8, 94801 VILLEJUIF, France" Lines: 27 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.infobiogen.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Acedb gurus, I wish you, but not only you, a happy new year. And I have some questions ... I am in the process of making a web server for an acedb database, together with a server administrator here in DKFZ. I have a naive question concerning rpc, is it possible to have the aceserver running on background, and not by inetd, and still use the perl aceclient? I mean that I tried this, and this is ok with the acelient in C. But I do not know if it is mandatory to have aceserver running via inetd to have webace running correctly. Just to give you more precisions on our state of the art: we have acedb installed fully, aceserver and aceclient are able to run. We did not succeed in running aceserver via inetd daemon, and my sysadm thought it may be not necessary (for myself, I do not know much !!!) We installed the Aceclient extension to perl5.x from webace2. I made a test using the simple perl aceclient pacecl.pl and I got: pollet@wuhan:/opt/www/axeldb/ace/wrpc <0>pacecl.pl wuhan 56789 ld.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: fatal: relocation error: symbol not found: openServer: referenced in /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/sun4-solaris/auto/Aceclient/Aceclient.so Killed Do you have any idea about the problem ? Thank you very much for your help. BEst wishes, Nicolas From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Jan 06 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!agate!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: webace Date: 7 Jan 1998 13:32:05 -0000 Lines: 22 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <69004l$bf5@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: acedb@dl.ac.uk following the mail from Pollet my self, i am unable to install webace i got a similar bug: ld.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: fatal: relocation error: symbol not found: openServer: referenced in /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/sun4-solaris/auto/Aceclient/Aceclient.so Killed ----- is anybody able to run webace, and please how do tey do that === apart from that, yes aceserver should run as by inetd and this should not be a problem as fara s i know webace and aceclient can use the same server at the same time From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Jan 08 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!agate!logbridge.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!raphael.shinbiro.com!hiline.shinbiro.com!not-for-mail From: "hiri" Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Which is the best tool ? (Dev2k or VB) Date: 9 Jan 1998 04:18:23 GMT Organization: hhi Lines: 25 Message-ID: <01bd1cb4$dff7ec60$0c836561@22076.goliath> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.30.199.3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Hi! In my PROJECT case there are a lot of data which deal with . I know VB is very slow when using ODBC in ORACLE DB. Also I'm gonna develop web. Which is the best tool ? If you have comparison table or real-world experience, please send me. For example : 1) characteristics 2) advantages, disadvantages 3) etc Please send me information like comparision table !!! ---> Hyun_Joo@shinbiro.com From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sat Jan 10 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.59.152.222!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!usenet From: Noel Yap Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: segfault using Linux ace Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:04:24 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Lines: 12 Sender: ivy1@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <34B925C8.8D8C2834@cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cu-dialup-1823.cit.cornell.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) I am having problems running Ace 4.5e on my Linux system. When I try to re-initialize the database, I get a segmentation fault. gdb tells me that this is somewhere in strftime(). I've been told that this due to a null pointer being passed to the function. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Noel -- Immanuel V. Yap Curator, RiceBlastDB Cornell University From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sat Jan 10 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!recycled.news.erols.com!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: position in Jouy Date: 11 Jan 1998 19:16:17 -0000 Lines: 88 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <69b5q1$pid@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: acedb@dl.ac.uk From owner-bioinfo@ns.crihan.fr Fri Jan 9 14:04:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr by kaa (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04804; Fri, 9 Jan 98 14:04:13 +0100 Received: from ns.crihan.fr (majordom@ns.crihan.fr [195.221.20.10]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05632; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:03:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.crihan.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00499 for bioinfo-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:03:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: ns.crihan.fr: majordom set sender to owner-bioinfo@ns.crihan.fr using -f Received: from proline.jouy.inra.fr (proline.jouy.inra.fr [138.102.88.136]) by ns.crihan.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00496 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:03:07 +0100 Received: (from gibrat@localhost) by proline.jouy.inra.fr (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA01239 for bioinfo@crihan.fr; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:01:35 -0800 From: "Jean-Francois Gibrat" Message-Id: <9801091401.ZM1237@proline.jouy.inra.fr> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:01:34 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: bioinfo@crihan.fr Subject: Poste CR2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART-BOUNDARY=.19801091401.ZM1237.jouy.inra.fr" Sender: owner-bioinfo@ns.crihan.fr Precedence: bulk Status: RO -- --PART-BOUNDARY=.19801091401.ZM1237.jouy.inra.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bonjour, Un profil de CR2 en Bio-informatique a ete ouvert cette annee dans notre unite. 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Please contact Joe at: joedapro@hotmail.com Subject: PSM From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Jan 13 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kodak.com!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.nysernet.net!news.nysernet.net!207.41.200.14!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!206.229.87.26!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!fastnet!uunet!in4.uu.net!intac!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!usenet From: Noel Yap Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re: segfault using Linux ace Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:33:17 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Lines: 36 Sender: ivy1@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <34BC4E1D.54E3B9F9@cornell.edu> References: <34B925C8.8D8C2834@cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cu-dialup-1222.cit.cornell.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) Noel Yap wrote: > > I am having problems running Ace 4.5e on my Linux system. When I try to > re-initialize the database, I get a segmentation fault. gdb tells me > that this is somewhere in strftime(). I've been told that this due to a > null pointer being passed to the function. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. Jean wrote: > this looks annoying, please what version of Linux are you running > we use Red-hat linux to compile > > also, please what is your hard ware, Richard wrote: > Acedb 4.5e crashes on some releases of linux, but not others (not in > our hands under Red Hat, which is what we use). We believe that this > is due to bugs in giving an inadequate buffer length to system calls > readdir() and/or getcwd(). I am using the Debian 2.0 distribution, on an IBM ThinkPad. I had no problems getting Ace 4.3 to run previously, although I have upgraded my system since then. Aside from the crash when initializing a new database, however, Ace appears to work fine if used on a database created on another system. Richard wrote: > I think our current code has been fixed for the linux crashes by Ian > Longden (il@sanger.ac.uk), but can't work out exactly what you need to > get the fixes. I suggest you contact Ian directly. Thanks, I'll do that. Noel Yap Curator, RiceBlastDB Cornell University From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Jan 13 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!agate!logbridge.uoregon.edu!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!ciril.fr!u-strasbg.fr!news From: pingouin@chouchen.u-strasbg.fr (Francois Jeanmougin) Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re: segfault using Linux ace Date: 14 Jan 1998 09:24:16 GMT Organization: CRC - Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg France Lines: 23 Message-ID: <69i080$sm7@news.u-strasbg.fr> References: <34B925C8.8D8C2834@cornell.edu> <34BC4E1D.54E3B9F9@cornell.edu> Reply-To: jeanmougin@igbmc.u-strasbg.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: chouchen.u-strasbg.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8 In article <34BC4E1D.54E3B9F9@cornell.edu>, Noel Yap writes: > I am using the Debian 2.0 distribution, on an IBM ThinkPad. I had no > problems getting Ace 4.3 to run previously, although I have upgraded my > system since then. Aside from the crash when initializing a new > database, however, Ace appears to work fine if used on a database > created on another system. Hey! Debian 2.0 is unstable(1). It is using the new glibc (aka libc6) which can makes some conflict with programmes based on libc5. You have to carefully check any warning when compiling such big programms, or, for stability, link them to the old libc5 library. Hope this helps, Fran蔞is. (1) I mean, the current stable debian is 1.3.x and the 2.0 is a development release. You have to really be carefull when using this version. -- Fran蔞is Jeanmougin | groupe de bioinformatique / bioinformatics groupe tel:(+33) 3 88 65 32 71 | IGBMC BP 163 67404 Illkirch France From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Jan 14 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!daresbury!is.bbsrc.ac.uk!news From: Matt Couchman Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Write Access from Aceclient? Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:23:39 +0000 Organization: The John Innes Centre Lines: 16 Message-ID: <34BE29FB.41C6@bbsrc.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: jiio5.jic.bbsrc.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) Hello, I am trying to use the 'parse' command in aceclient but I get the error message: // Sorry, you do not have write access. // 0 Active Objects My username is in passwd.wrm and I can't find an equivalent to xace's 'Write Access' option in aceclient. Is there one? Does it work in the perl version of Aceclient as well? Thanks very much for any help, Matt. From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Jan 14 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!plantphys.umu.se!Cheng.Luo From: Cheng.Luo@plantphys.umu.se ("Dr. Cheng Luo") Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re:segfault using Linux ace and test Date: 15 Jan 1998 08:10:46 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 41 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9801151609.AA13292@plantphys.umu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net >I am having problems running Ace 4.5e on my Linux system. When I try to >re-initialize the database, I get a segmentation fault. gdb tells me >that this is somewhere in strftime(). I've been told that this due to a >null pointer being passed to the function. Any help would be greatly >appreciated. > >Regards, >Noel >-- >Immanuel V. Yap >Curator, RiceBlastDB >Cornell University > >-- >$***********************************************************************$ >$Dr. Cheng Luo Tel. 46 90 165474 $ >$Dept. of Plant Physiology Fax 46 90 166676 $ >$University of Ume Email: cheng.luo@plantphys.umu.se $ >$90187 Ume http://www.plantphys.umu.se/~cheng $ >$Sweden $ >$***********************************************************************$ > > > > *************************************** Dr. Cheng Luo =20 Dept. of Plant Physiology =20 University of Ume=E5 =20 90187 Ume=E5 =20 Sweden =20 Tel. 46 90 786-5474=20 Fax 46 90 786-6676 Email: cheng.luo@plantphys.umu.se http://www.plantphys.umu.se/~cheng From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Jan 14 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!plantphys.umu.se!Cheng.Luo From: Cheng.Luo@plantphys.umu.se ("Dr. Cheng Luo") Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re:segfault using Linux ace and test Date: 15 Jan 1998 08:25:11 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 41 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9801151624.AA13354@plantphys.umu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net >I am having problems running Ace 4.5e on my Linux system. When I try to >re-initialize the database, I get a segmentation fault. gdb tells me >that this is somewhere in strftime(). I've been told that this due to a >null pointer being passed to the function. Any help would be greatly >appreciated. > >Regards, >Noel >-- >Immanuel V. 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This action is a consequence of the decision by the project's primary funder, the U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Energy Research, to discontinue GDB funding in order to focus its informatics resources primarily on the results of the sequencing phase of the human genome project. Termination of the GDB project is expected to be completed by July 31, 1998. The database will continue to be made available to the scientific community after that time, but further change to its content will cease. GDB was initially created at Johns Hopkins in 1989 by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute to capture the data from the Human Gene Mapping Library project at Yale. In 1991 the responsibility for funding the project was assumed jointly by the Department of Energy, the National Institutes of Health, and the Japan Science and Technology Agency. A series of mirror sites in many countries helped to insure international access to the data. One of the first major accomplishments of the project was to capture in electronic form much of the information about human genetics and gene mapping accumulated by the scientific community during the two decades prior to the Human Genome Project. These data were reviewed and edited by a worldwide group of volunteer scientists to assure quality, under the auspices of the Human Genome Organization (HUGO). The data included information on human genes, probes, clones, and allele frequencies, and represented the first significant attempt to collect the data necessary to get the Human Genome project under way. During its lifetime GDB provided informatics support for a succession of HUGO-sponsored Human Gene Mapping meetings and Single Chromosome workshops, hosted in a variety of locations around the world. These meetings brought together researchers from many countries to piece together integrated chromosome maps from numerous separate experimental results; the results were then made available to the research community via GDB. GDB pioneered the use of the World-Wide Web as a tool for dissemination of bioinformatics data to the community, which has now become routine. The project was also one of the first to deploy a Java client application (Mapview) to graphically display database query results. In recent years novel algorithms were developed to integrate multiple maps into a single comprehensive chromosome model which could be searched and displayed. By the mid-1990's small-scale mapping was giving way to high resolution whole-genome mapping at a small number of centers, as part of the mapping phase of the Human Genome Project. More recently the focus has shifted again to high-throughput sequencing. As the heyday of traditional mapping has faded, so has the perceived need for a large community database project focussed on maps. The decision has therefore been made to terminate the GDB project. The database will continue to be made available to the scientific community at the same Web address for the forseeable future, though most curation and data acquisition activities will cease before long. It is expected that the international mirror sites will make their own decisions regarding the longer term maintenance and supply of the final GDB release. Human Gene Nomenclature will continue to be curated by Dr. Sue Povey at the University College of London. The OMIM database, which since 1995 has had no formal connection with GDB, will not be affected and will continue to be available through NCBI (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/omim). The Computational Bioscience Section (http://compbio.ornl.gov) of the Oak Ridge National Laboratory has agreed to maintain the servers for access to the current copy of GDB after the project ends at Johns Hopkins University. This Section is headed by Dr. Ed Uberbacher, the developer of the widely-used GRAIL eukaryotic gene-finding program. Oak Ridge is the coordinating site for the Genome Annotation Consortium (GAC, http://compbio.ornl.gov/CoLab) project, which is developing software and data systems to assist in assembling and annotating the results of human genome sequencing on an ongoing basis. Having GDB available locally will facilitate the GAC's integration of map data with sequence to produce the annotated reference genomic sequence, which is the ultimate goal of the Human Genome Project. I would like to take this opportunity to applaud the GDB project staff and management for their hard work and creative effort over the 8 year history of the project. I would also like to offer my deepest thanks to the past and present members of both our Quarterly Review Committee and our International Scientific Advisory Committee for their advice and support over the years, and to thank our host institution, the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. We hope that this decision does not cause any great inconvenience to members of the scientific community. Please send comments or concerns to comments@gdb.org, or fill out the comment form at http://www.gdb.org/shutdown/shutdown.html, which permits comments to be anonymous, if desired. Please be as specific as possible in describing any use of GDB in your research for which no equivalent resource currently exists. These comments will be forwarded to myself and the funding agencies. Funding agency representatives can be contacted directly at the following addresses: Department of Energy: Daniel.Drell@oer.doe.gov Marvin.Frazier@oer.doe.gov National Institutes of Health: Lisa_Brooks@nih.gov The GDB staff can be contacted collectively at gdbstaff@gdb.org. Sincerely, Stanley Letovsky, Ph.D. Director, Genome Database letovsky@gdb.org From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Jan 20 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews") Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: re: despair with webace2 Date: 21 Jan 1998 09:19:17 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 17 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9801211718.AA28290@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Last I heard, about a month ago, webace2 was robustly nonfunctional and the debugging was being performed by Sean Walsh, sean@nasc.nott.ac.uk. Is this still the status Sean? - Dave > From: Nicolas Pollet > Subject: despair with webace2 > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:00:45 +0100 > > We installed the Aceclient extension to perl5.x from webace2. > I made a test using the simple perl aceclient pacecl.pl and I got: > pollet@wuhan:/opt/www/axeldb/ace/wrpc <0>pacecl.pl wuhan 56789 > ld.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: fatal: relocation error: symbol not found: > openServer: referenced in > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/sun4-solaris/auto/Aceclient/Aceclient.so > Killed From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Jan 20 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.eerie.fr!jussieu.fr!infobiogen.fr!lovelace.infobiogen.fr!pollet From: Nicolas Pollet Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: despair with webace2 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:00:45 +0100 Organization: "GIS INFOBIOGEN, 7 rue Guy Moquet BP8, 94801 VILLEJUIF, France" Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.infobiogen.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Ace managers, We installed the Aceclient extension to perl5.x from webace2. I made a test using the simple perl aceclient pacecl.pl and I got: pollet@wuhan:/opt/www/axeldb/ace/wrpc <0>pacecl.pl wuhan 56789 ld.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: fatal: relocation error: symbol not found: openServer: referenced in /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/sun4-solaris/auto/Aceclient/Aceclient.so Killed Do you have any idea about the problem ? Thank you very much for your help. BEst wishes, Nicolas Dr Nicolas Pollet e-mail: n.pollet@dkfz-heidelberg.de Division of Molecular Embryology DKFZ Tel: (+49)-6221-42-4694 INF 280 Fax: (+49)-6221-42-4692 D-69120 Heidelberg http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/abt0135/hpeng.htm From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Jan 20 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!208.134.241.18!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.0.154.56!ais.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: sales@inforia.com Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: ZDNet Hotfile & Editor's Pick!! 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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:09:24 -0500 Organization: National Institute for Child Health and Development Lines: 61 Message-ID: <34D0FE14.178D@nih.gov> Reply-To: Jonathan_Epstein@nih.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.231.155.22 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Xref: biosci bionet.software.acedb:1595 bionet.software:20388 Greetings, I have recently transferred from the NCBI to perform a scientific technical support function at the NICHD. I'm currently performing needs analysis for a laboratory which is involved in zebrafish sequencing and analysis. They estimate that they will sequence up to 3000 clones over a period of time. Based upon availability, it appears that we will use an SGI Indy system to manage the database; other target platforms could be considered if necessary. Among the functions which the database/laboratory management system should perform: * Lookup by clone identifier * Lookup by keyword * semi-automatic insertion of new sequence records based upon email from sequencing lab * Storage/linkage to two-dimensional image data derived from Adobe Photoshop. There will be an average of two images per clone, with an estimated size of 400 by 400 pixels in 8 bit color. * Automatic BLASTing of new sequences against the NR databases. * Automatic detection of open reading frames, where possible. * Comparison of new sequences with the laboratory database itself, possibly using BLAST. For some clones, association of the original entry with a subsequent full-length sequence obtained at a later date. Clones may also in turn need be linked with radiation hybrid mapping information managed/analyzed through a tool such as RHMAPPER. Based upon what I have read and heard, it appears that ACEDB may be a suitable candidate. However, it is unclear to me whether the computational aspects of this system can be integrated into ACEDB, and if so, how this integration can be achieved. I would appreciate the feedback on this question, as well as alternate recommendations for public domain and/or commercial software solutions. I am also interested in learning about the stability of WWW ACEDB tools (webace?), as well as any third-party tools for performing retrieval from ACEDB via the WWW. Thanks in advance, - Jonathan From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Jan 29 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews") Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re: Query by Example Date: 30 Jan 1998 07:48:42 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 23 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9801301547.AA08033@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net > It was pointed out to me by Roger Chetelat, who uses SolGenes on geneous, > that Query by Example crashes ACEDB whenever one tries to select a Class > from the Class menu (either the scrollable menu or the right-mouse-button > one). The same problem exists on GrainGenes and RiceGenes, so it is not > server-specific. Perhaps everybody else was aware of the problem, and > avoided it by opening the desired Class in the main window before opening > QBE. Does anybody know when the bug appeared? Is it a "feature" of > version 4.5? > > Thanks, > Sam Looks like this is new. 4.3i doesn't have the problem. Interestingly though, in both 4.3 and 4.5 the list of classes in QBE includes a bunch of classes that aren't in the model and don't look like system classes, e.g. in GrainGenes' case Clone, Comment, Doc, Homology_group, Include, Paper. 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If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet information searches or answer scientific questions. Please post those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. Contents: -------- 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! ------------------------------ BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our Web site at http://www.bio.net/. We need just a few minutes of your time to help us serve you. 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However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses and hit these too, so neither medium is immune. What should you do personally if you get junk mail? --------------------------------------------------- Just delete it and move on without reading it further. Filing a protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from. Unless you really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing. What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups? ---------------------------------------------------- The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup. If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape. Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists completely. Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the time to review each message before it goes out. We have set up software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed. This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass it on, say about 1 min. per message. Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible for their newsgroup. The discussions leaders and their e-mail addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. If a newsgroup is being hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group. Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your complaint. With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net. We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator is willing to do the work. For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this entails only a few minutes of work each day. Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings on the USENET distribution. Unfortunately there are easy ways for determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET, but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if the newsgroup is moderated. You can also access our newsgroups over the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net. While this Web interface will not stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of your personal mail files. For those of you with local USENET news systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new newsgroups and recent postings. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. ------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the newsgroups and mailing lists. People who do this only bother everyone on the lists to no avail. Please be sure to follow the proper procedures below. Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at http://www.bio.net. Below we give an example utilizing the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites: Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI ------------------------------------------------------------------ node at computer net.bio.net: ---------------------------- A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for the group. These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet. For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is methods@net.bio.net. The listname is the portion of the address to the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods". The listname is used with the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below. B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to biosci-server@net.bio.net. Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup posting addresses! Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it will be ignored. C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g., subscribe methods unsubscribe methods end Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines. The server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list. Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells you that you are not a member. Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at -------------------------------------------------------------------- computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk): ------------------------------------------------- To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended. The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the appropriate commands are sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk, NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses. As usual, include the text in the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored. To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use unsub bionet-news Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. ----------------------------------------------------------- Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have not already done so. You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL http://www.bio.net/adrform.html. The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is http://www.bio.net/). If you are not directly on the Internet but can reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user directory. waismail use is described above. You can also request a user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net. Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your address information is still up-to-date. Because of our limited personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have resources to edit old forms.