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From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg <mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr>
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Subject: about microsoft
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Having problems with windows etc
  have a look at: MicroSoft Boycott Campain :: http://www.abctec.com/~msbc

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Apr 01 23:00:00 1998
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From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg <mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr>
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Subject: Re:  bioWidgets
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Lincoln Stein cc'd me on Steve Fischer's position on biowidget.
Steve says:
  " it is our philosophy that well
 > designed components obviate the need for source code"

I totally disagree with this opinion. If one hopes for portability, reuse and
collaborative work, which was the original platform for the Biowidget efforts
certainly source code must be distributed.

The only good reason for not distributing source code that I can conceive, is the hope
of marketing the product in the future. But then this should be made very explicit
otherwise we may start by using the code than be trapped in a private-code, and
have to reprogram it.
  This is exactly the situation at EBI which is activelly reprogramming the GCG toolbox

Jean Thierry-Mieg


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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 02 23:00:00 1998
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From: Simon Kelley <simon@kelley.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Acedb license: was Re: bioWidgets
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 15:31:13 +0000
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It seems that no self-respecting newsgroup is complete these days
without a thread discussing the arcana of software licenses, so I'll
take advantage of the do-biowidgets-need-free-source discussion to bring
this up.


The current license for acedb is shown below.  It's clear and very
short.

/* Copyright (C) 1991 R Durbin and J Thierry-Mieg. All rights reserved.
 * Written by Jean Thierry Mieg and Richard Durbin, 1990, 1991.
 * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are freely
 * permitted provided that the above copyright notice and 
 * attribution and date of work and this paragraph are duplicated 
 * in all such forms and that neither this software nor software
 * based in whole or in part on this software is sold for profit.
 * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT ANY EXPRESS OR
 * IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, THE IMPLIED
 * WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTIBILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR 
 * PURPOSE.
 */

In fact it's so short that it doesn't address lots of the questions that
the free software world has grappled with for the last ten years. See 
news:news.mozilla.com/public.netscape.mozilla.license and
http://www.fsf.org/

A few which spring to mind are:

1) The 'not sold for profit' clause would seem to stop the commercial
production of CDs on the cheapbytes model, which has been shown to be
advantageous.

2) The license doesn't cover the status of third-party code added to
acedb, for example the gd library used in giface.

3) The license doesn't talk about the rights of contributers to acedb
_other_ than Richard and Jean.

3) I'm not sure if the acedb copyright is strictly compatible with the
Gnu Public Licence, should anybody wish to use GPL code in acedb. The
restriction on distribution 'for profit' and the lack of insistence that
source code accompany binaries for derived works are both problems here.
Would anybody who understands these issues like to  comment?




Maybe Richard and Jean should clarify the situation by releasing under
the GPL or some other pre-established free license of their choice.

Simon.

-- 
Simon Kelley
simon@kelley.demon.co.uk

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From: Richard Bruskiewich <rbrusk1@wave.home.com>
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Subject: Re: about microsoft
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To: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg <mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr>

Gee, thanks Jean!

Richard B.

Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg wrote:
> 
> Having problems with windows etc
>   have a look at: MicroSoft Boycott Campain :: http://www.abctec.com/~msbc

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 02 23:00:00 1998
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From: Richard Bruskiewich <rbrusk1@wave.home.com>
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Subject: Re: WinAce Release 4.5.3d crashes in Windows '95
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It appears that the latest release (2-1/2 months old now) of ACEDB for
Windows, experiences recurrent crashes when run within Windows '95. 
Since the original release was only tested fully on a Windows NT 4.0
machine, upon which the release DOES NOT appear to crash at all, this
problem was not recognized sooner (or, rather, so few users complained
about their problem running WinAce 4.5.3d in Windows '95 that I
considered the very few reports of the problem to be specific to
particular machine configurations, not a general problem with the
software).

I will attempt to troubleshoot the problem over the next few days and
issue a patch/new release.

This is further evidence of the non-equivalence of Windows '95 and
Windows NT 4.0... and the relatively greater robustness of the latter
O/S, at least, when running ACEDB. ($#@*&#&%$$?!??!!)

Richard Bruskiewich (rbrusk@octogene.medgen.ubc.ca)

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 02 23:00:00 1998
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From: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: bioWidgets
Date: 03 Apr 1998 09:21:34 +0100
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Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg <mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr> writes:

> The only good reason for not distributing source code that I can
> conceive, is the hope  of marketing the product in the future. But
> then this should be made very explicit otherwise we may start by
> using the code than be trapped in a private-code, and have to
> reprogram it.
>
> This is exactly the situation at EBI which is activelly
> reprogramming the GCG toolbox

I think this must be a reference to the EGCG package of extensions to
GCG.  That's at the Sanger Centre (Hi Jean - yes, we did meet over at
the EBI :-). EGCG is now officially obsolete precisely because of
source code issues.

I am now working on EMBOSS will have all source code available under
GNU licensing.

My experience has been that making source code available greatly
encourages other contributions. Without source code - no more
contributions.

Also, using code or packages that are/may become commercial does
indeed risk being trapped and forced to abondon all previous efforts
and reprogram.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Rice                | Informatics Division, The Sanger Centre,
E-mail: pmr@sanger.ac.uk  | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,
Tel: (44) 1223 494967     | Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SA, England
Fax: (44) 1223 494919     | URL: http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/pmr/

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 02 23:00:00 1998
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From: bks@netcom.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Subject: Re: Acedb license: was Re: bioWidgets
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In article <352500C1.52C4FFF6@kelley.demon.co.uk>,
Simon Kelley  <simon@kelley.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Would anybody who understands these issues like to  comment?

That's a pretty short list, Simon, and I'm not on it.  However,
all of this has always seemed pretty clear to me: if you are
making money by selling software written by someone else without
iron-clad license you're in a state of sin.  If you're not
making money from it you're in a state of grace. And there
are more sinners than saints.  Twas ever thus.

    --bks



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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Fri Apr 03 23:00:00 1998
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From: Richard Bruskiewich <rbrusk1@wave.home.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: WinAce Release 4.5.3d crash bug
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A preliminary assessment of the WinAce 4.5.3d run time bug under Windows
'95 indicates that the program crashes hard when it attempts to report a
"regular" ACEDB run time crash. So if you don't do something naughty ;-)
to generate a normal ACEDB crash, then you are OK.  Even so, this
problem has been repaired in my code here and a fix will be released.

Since I have recently upgraded my compiler to MS Visual C/C++ Version
5.0 and made other improvements/code fixes, I would like to make a new
full release ("winace_4.5.4a_April98.zip") of the program within the
next week or so (as an Easter present!).  This new release will by
consequence include the crash bug fix.  If this delay is of major
inconvenience to anyone, please contact me by email and we will arrange
something accordingly.

Thank you very much for your patience!

Your loyal WinAce developer,
Richard Bruskiewich (almost a PhD)
University of British Columbia

email: rbrusk@octogene.medgen.ubc.ca

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From: caron@jade.jouy.inra.fr (Christophe Caron)
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Subject: Allow user to add comments to a database via markup rule
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Hi

In webace the clickable "[View graphic]" at the top of html
pages does not work correctly in some cases.


The idea is to use this "feature":) to add a new functionnality:
 Allow user to add comments to a database via markup rule


This is already used in graingenes database at NAL, and mirror site at
Jouy-en-Josas (France).


You could look at some graingenes sites :
http://probe.nalusda.gov:8300/cgi-bin/browse/graingenes
or 
http://grain.jouy.inra.fr/cgi-bin/webace?db=graingenes

by selecting an class/object and click  on _Submit comment/correction




There are 4 steps to add this:

1) Add this rule to your markup.pl, in your '$ACEDB/wspec' directory.

#
# add comment in webace
# 
{
#
'keys' => sub {my ($node, $root) = @_;
                return ($node->{db},$node->{cl},$node->{va});
             },
'urls'=>'edit'
},
#
#
#


2)Add to standard_urls , in 'acelib' directory.

edit:_Submit comment/correction:$main::baseURL/cgi-bin/comment?db=$keys[0]&class=$keys[1]&object=$keys[2]


3)Copy this 'comment' script to your cgi-bin directory
and adapt it (email address(in $send_to variable), perl path, url
path, hostname, database name....) to your site.

#!/usr/local/public/perlace/bin/perl -I/usr/local/public/perlace/lib/perl5
#####################################################################
# comment - allows user to add comments to a database via markup rule
####################################################################

# use & require
use acelib::Acedb;
use acelib::AceWWW;
use CGI qw(:standard :cgi-lib);

print header;
$query = new CGI; # parse form input

$db = param('db');
$class = param('class');
$object = param('object');
param('remote',remote_host());
hidden('remote',param('remote')),"\n";

param('dbtitle',$dbinfo{$db}{'title'});

if (!param('sender email') || !param('sender') || param('sender email') !~ m/^[\w-]+\@[A-Za-z0-9]+(\.[\w-]+)*\.[A-Za-z0-9]+$/) {&opening;}
#elsif (param('correction') && param('sender email')) {&mailitoff;}
else {&mailitoff;}
print endform;
print end_html;
exit;

sub opening {
    print start_html(-title=>'Correction form for ' . param('dbtitle'),
			     -background=>'/icons/dnabak3.gif',
			     -text=>'#000000',
			     -link=>'#0000ff', 
			     -vlink=>'#551a8b',
			     -alink=>'#ff0000',
			     -bgcolor=>'#c0c0c0')."\n";
    print startform(-method => 'POST',"http://grain.jouy.inra.fr/cgi-bin/comment");
	print "<strong>Database:</strong> " . param('dbtitle');
	print hidden('dbtitle',param('dbtitle')),"\n";
	print hidden('db',param('db')),"\n";
	print "<br><strong>Class:</strong> " . param('class');
	print hidden('class',param('class')),"\n";
	print "<br><strong>Object Name:</strong> " . param('object');
	print hidden('object',param('object')),"\n";

    if (param('sender')) {print hidden('sender',param('sender')),"\n";}
    elsif (!param('sender')) {
	print "<br>", textfield(-name=>'sender', -size => 50)." <strong>Name and affiliation</strong>\n";
    }
    
    if (param('sender email') =~ m/^[\w-]+\@[A-Za-z0-9]+(\.[\w-]+)*\.[A-Za-z0-9]+$/) {print hidden('sender email',param('sender email')),"\n";}
    else {
	if (param('sender email') !~ m/^\s*$/) {print "<br><font color=red>E-mail address is <strong>invalid</strong> - please enter e-mail address again</font>\n";}
	print "<br>",textfield(-name=>'sender email', -size => 50)," <strong>E-mail address</strong> (required)\n";
    }
    if (param('edited')) {
	print hidden('edited',param('edited')),"\n";
	print hidden('saved acedump') if (param('saved acedump'));
    }
    elsif (!param('edited')) {

print "<p>Please edit the entry directly and add any comments to the Comments/References box.  <br>If
 you can supply a reference it will help us reconcile your information
 with the original data source.<br> Additional information on the
 fields available in this data class can be found at the bottom of
 this page.<br>";

	print "\n";
	$myobj = &acelib::Acedb::getObj($db,$class,$object);
	@outstrings = $myobj->prettyPrint2(1);
	$outstrings[0] =~ s/^( *\"[^\"]+\" +)(.+)$/$class:  $1\n     $2/; # "
	my ($actuallength) = length($1) - 5;
#	print "<h1>Actual length = $actuallength</h1>\n"; # test
	my $outstrings2 = @outstrings; # length of array
	for ($i=1; $i<$outstrings2; $i++) {
	    $outstrings[$i] =~ s/^ {$actuallength}//;
	}
	$fulloutput = join("\n", @outstrings);
	param('saved acedump',$fulloutput);
	print hidden('saved acedump',param('saved acedump'));
#	print param('saved acedump'),"<br>\n"; # test
	print textarea(-name=>'edited', -rows=>20, -columns=>60, -default=>$fulloutput),"\n";
    }
    if (param('references')) {
	print hidden('references',param('references')),"\n";
    }
    elsif (!param('references')) {
	print "<p><strong>Comments/References</strong><br>\n";
	print textarea(-name=>'references', -rows=>8, -columns=>60),"\n";
    }
    print submit('correction', 'Send corrections to ' . param('dbtitle') . ' curators'),"\n";
    print "<br>Thanks very much for your feedback!\n";
    print "<br> - The GrainGenes curators, Dave Matthews, Gerry Lazo, Olin Anderson\n";
    
    print "<hr>";
    if (param('model')) { print hidden('model'),"\n";}
    else {
	if ($class =~ /probe/i) {
	    print 'More information about how to edit data for this class can be found <a href="gopher://probe.nalusda.gov:7002/00/.administration/Template%20for%20Probe%20data">HERE</a>.';
	} elsif ($class =~ /locus|map_data/i) {
	    print 'More information about how to edit data for this class can be found <a href="gopher://probe.nalusda.gov:7002/00/.administration/Template%20for%20Map%20and%20Locus%20data">HERE</a>.';
	} elsif ($class =~ /2_Point_Data/i) {
	    print 'More information about how to edit data for this class can be found <a href="gopher://probe.nalusda.gov:7002/00/.administration/Template%20for%202_Point_Data">HERE</a>.';
	} elsif ($class =~ /QTL/i) {
	    print 'More information about how to edit data for this class can be found <a href="gopher://probe.nalusda.gov:7002/00/.administration/Template%20for%20QTL%20data">HERE</a>.';
	} elsif ($class =~ /Germplasm/i) {
	    print 'More information about how to edit data for this class can be found <a href="gopher://probe.nalusda.gov:7002/00/.administration/Template%20for%20Germplasm%20records">HERE</a>.';
	} elsif ($class =~ /reference/i) {
	    print 'More information about how to edit data for this class can be found <a href="gopher://probe.nalusda.gov:7002/00/.administration/Template%20for%20References">HERE</a>.';
	}
	$model = &acelib::Acedb::getCleanModel($db, $class);
	$acelib::AceWWW::dbURL = sub { my ($db, $class, $value) = @_;
				       $value =~ s/^[\?\#]//;
				       return "$main::baseURL/cgi-bin/model?db=$main::db&class=$value";
				   };
	print join("\n", &acelib::AceWWW::ace2html($model));
	param('model',' ');
	print hidden('model',param('model')),"\n";
    }
}

sub mailitoff {
    print start_html(-title=>'Correction form for ' . param('dbtitle'),
			     -background=>'/icons/dnabak3.gif',
			     -text=>'#000000',
			     -link=>'#0000ff', 
			     -vlink=>'#551a8b',
			     -alink=>'#ff0000',
			     -bgcolor=>'#c0c0c0')."\n";
    print startform(-method => 'POST',"http://grain.jouy.inra.fr/cgi-bin/comment");

    $sendmail = "/usr/lib/sendmail";

    $send_to =  "tthews\@greengenes.cit.cornel.edu zo\@pw.usd.gov ndersn\@pw.usd.gov";
    $send_from = param('sender email');
    
    open(MAILIT, "| $sendmail \"$send_to\"");
    print MAILIT <<ENDOFHEADERINFO;
From: $send_from
To: $send_to
Subject: ***GrainGenes Correction Alert***
  
ENDOFHEADERINFO
    print "Your corrections/comments have been mailed to the ", param('dbtitle'), " curator.\n";
    print   MAILIT "Sender: ",param('sender'), "\n";
    print  "<p>Sender: ",param('sender'),"\n";
    print "<br>Remote machine: ",param('remote'),"\n";
    print MAILIT "Remote machine: ",param('remote'),"\n";
    print   MAILIT "Senders E-mail: ",param('sender email'), "\n\n";
    print  "<br>Senders E-mail: ",param('sender email'),"\n";
    my $myedited = param('edited');
    print  "<p>CORRECTED OBJECT:<br><pre>",$myedited,"</pre>\n";
    $myedited =~ s/\r//g; #gets rid of \r which DOS machines combine with \n to make a ^M, which causes problems
    print   MAILIT "CORRECTED OBJECT:\n\n",$myedited, "\n";
my $myacedump = param('saved acedump');
    print  "<p>ORIGINAL OBJECT in ace format:<p><pre>", $myacedump,"</pre>\n";
$myacedump  =~ s/\r/\n/g; #gets rid of \r which DOS machines combine with \n to make a ^M, which causes problems
  print  MAILIT "\n\nORIGINAL OBJECT in ace format:\n\n", $myacedump,"\n\n";
    if (param('references')) {
my $myreferences = param('references');
	print  "<p>COMMENTS/REFERENCES:<br><pre>",$myreferences,"</pre>\n";
$myreferences  	=~ s/\r//g; #gets rid of \r which DOS machines combine with \n to make a ^M, which causes problems
print   MAILIT "COMMENTS/REFERENCES:\n\n",$myreferences, "\n";
    }
    close  MAILIT;
} 








4)Add the procedure prettyPrint2 to your Aceobj.pm:

sub prettyPrint2 { # SB-S 6 June 1997
    # returns an array of strings, with the object formatted nicely
    # NOT in .ace format
    my ($obj,$past_root) = @_;
    my ($nodeText, @output);
    unless ($past_root) {
        @output = ("$obj->{'cl'} : \"$obj->{'va'}\"");
        foreach $next ($obj->right) {
            push (@output, &prettyPrint2($next, 1));
        }
    } else {
        $nodeText = $obj->{'ti'} || $obj->{'va'};
        if ($obj->{'ty'} ne 'tg') { #new
            $nodeText =~ s/\"/\\"/g; # " #new
            $nodeText = "\"".$nodeText."\""; #new
        }
        if ($obj->right) {
            my ($already);
            foreach $next ($obj->right) {
                my ($line);
                foreach $line (&prettyPrint2($next, 1)) {
                    push (@output, $nodeText . ' ' . $line);
                    unless ($already) {
                        $nodeText =~ tr// /c;
                        $already = 1;
                    }
                }
            }
        } else {
            @output = ($nodeText);
        }
    }
    return @output;
}


################

And test it....



christophe

Thanks to Dave Matthews, Jon Krainak, Matthew Couchman, Thierry
Hotelier for their help on ACEDB/Webace.

=========================================================
= Christophe Caron	C.T.I.S.
= I.N.R.A.		Domaine de Vilvert		=
= 78352 Jouy-en-Josas	email : caron@jouy.inra.fr	=
=========================================================



From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Apr 07 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews
From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews")
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: conference Objects in Bioinformatics '98
Date: 8 Apr 1998 08:17:51 -0700
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(I thought this announcement might be of interest to some ACEDB folks.  - Dave)



>From BIOSCI-REQUEST@net.bio.net Wed Apr  8 03:01:27 1998
Newsgroups: bionet.announce
>From: Alan Robinson <alan@ebi.ac.uk>
Subject: [ANNOUCE] Objects in Bioinformatics '98

                                --ooOOoo--

                       Objects in Bioinformatics '98

            Object-Oriented Technology, Reusable Software Components 
              and Distributed Computing for the Biological Sciences. 

                       *****************************
                        http://www.ebi.ac.uk/oib98/
                       *****************************

                         3rd and 4th August, 1998. 
                       Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, 
                        Hinxton, near Cambridge, UK. 


Following last years successful OiB-97 conference, OiB-98 has been set for
August 3rd-4th, 1998. The conference is organised by the European
Bioinformatics Institute and will be held in the conference facilities at
the Wellcome Trust Genome Campus in the grounds of Hinxton Hall,
Cambridge, UK.

'Objects in Bioinformatics' focuses upon the role of object-oriented
technology, reusable software components, design patterns and distributed
computing in bioinformatics and the biological sciences. The conference is
aimed at those who are interested in, are developing, or have developed
object-oriented software that will be of use to the bioinformatics and
biological community in both academia and industry.  The conference aims
to address the problems now facing our scientific community of: 

    o  Heterogeneous computing environments
    o  Effective standards for the representation of data
    o  The distributed nature of applications, resources and data across
       computer networks (i.e. intranets, extranets and the Internet)
    o  The ever-present data deluge that is hitting biology
    o  The development of tools and resources to aid the biologist and
       bioinformatician

A theme of this year's conference will be the implication and application
of distributed object technology (such as CORBA) to biology and
bioinformatics, and the work of the Life Sciences Research Task Force of
the Object Management Group in promoting standards. 

The conference will include lectures and poster sessions on the rapidly
expanding and developing fields of object-oriented software and
distributed computing from both an academic and industrial perspective. 

Invited talks will cover the application of reusable components, tools,
software libraries, distributed object technology and the role of Life
Sciences Research Task Force. Speakers will also include specialists from
outside the domain of biology that have already experienced our current
problems. 

Poster stands (including a limited number with a dedicated networked
computer), are available upon which delegates may showcase their work and
projects. Participants are encouraged to submit a brief abstract for a
poster relevant to the conference themes to promote and display their work
in the field, and fuel dialogue. 

In the same spirit as OiB-97 , the cost of registration for the conference
has been kept as low as possible with a nominal fee of 50 GBP for early
registration. The closing date for early registration and submission of
abstracts is July 1st, 1998. Late registration will be possible from July
2nd onwards, however the registration fee will increase to 100 GBP. 

N.B. Following OiB-98, the Life Sciences Research (LSR) group will be
holding a technical meeting with work groups where efforts will continue
in encouraging the formation of domain standards. Interested OiB
participants are encouraged to attend these (and other) meetings of the
LSR group, although numbers will be limited for logistic reasons. 
Registration for this meeting is separate from OiB - details can be found
in the group's web pages. 

Details of registration and accommodation may be found at the conference
Web site -

		http://www.ebi.ac.uk/oib98/


Yours sincerely,
Alan Robinson.


--
============================================================
Alan J. Robinson                      Tel:+44-(0)1223 494625
EMBL Outstation                       Fax:+44-(0)1223 494468
European Bioinformatics Institute     Email:  alan@ebi.ac.uk
Wellcome Trust Genome Campus
Hinxton, Cambridge,
CB10 1SD, UK                http://industry.ebi.ac.uk/~alan/
============================================================





From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Apr 08 23:00:00 1998
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Subject: GKB FREE SERVICES UPDATE (4/98)
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Apr 08 23:00:00 1998
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From: Genome Database (Ian Hope) <acedb@gps.leeds.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: ACEDB data release for C.elegans WS4.4-26 and WG4.4-4
Date: 9 Apr 1998 10:31:11 +0100
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Original-To: acedb_distrib@sanger.ac.uk, rd@sanger.ac.uk


> From rd@sanger.ac.uk Mon Feb 16 17:50 GMT 1998
> From: Richard Durbin <rd@sanger.ac.uk>
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:28:15 GMT
> To: acedb_distrib@sanger.ac.uk
> Subject: ACEDB data release for C.elegans WS4.4-26 and WG4.4-4 
> 
> 
> This is a broadcast message to the ACEDB mailing list and related
> newsgroups.  If you are on the explicit mailing list and do not want
> to be, please send email to rd@sanger.ac.uk.
> 
> New ACEDB data release WG4 and WS4 for C. elegans 
> =================================================
> *** A Macace version is available for WG4 (without sequences only just now) ***
> 
> With this release we are again starting a new series of database
> updates from scratch, rather than adding on to WS3.  The new series is
> called WS4 (and correspondingly WG4 for the version without
> sequences).
> 
> Because both series are new, you must get all the updates from the
> series you want (WS4 or WG4), and rebuild a new database using them.
> 
> If you have a working acedb version built with the WS3 or a previous
> series, you must remove your current database/ directory (ideally
> after backing it up in case of difficulties).  As well as removing the
> database directory, you can also remove any update.WS3...tar.Z or
> rawdata/update.WS3... files.
> 
> If you do not remove the contents of the database directory, when
> you start up acedb it will still say "WS3" in the title bar, and will
> not be able to load the WS4 updates.  When you have emptied it
> properly, it will ask if you want to reinitialise, and put WS4 in
> title bar.
> 
> You should be using these updates in conjunction with release 4_5 of
> the acedb software (released in August 1997).
> 
> Reminder: there are now two versions of the C.elegans database.  The
> WS4 update series contains everything, whereas the WG4 update series
> contains all data except sequences and directly related material
> (proteins, motifs etc.), for those with limited resources.
> 
> (N.B. at the end of this file is a list of the contents of each
> update file).
> 
> The additions since the last release are :
> 
> for both types of update				
> 
>   - a physical map update with a lot of  changes (mid Jan)
>     all but one chromosome is now a single contig
>   - accumulated genetic data corrections, inclusion of phenotypes
>     from C. elegans II
>   - from  CGC : bibliography, wbg subscribers and strains
>   - from Leon Avery : wbg15.1 contents and abstracts
>   - Expression patterns from Julie Ahringer and Ian Hope, 
> 	many more pictures form Ian Hope
> 
> and for just the complete database including sequences (WS4)
> 
>   Data fom St Louis and Sanger Sequence databases taken in mid-December:	
>   - there are now 2520 (2237 before) cosmids totalling 75458714 (66969575
>         before) bases.
>   - there are also many new ESTs from Yuji Kohara.
>  
> The total database directory sizes after adding these updates are
> around 870MB for the WS4 database and around 75MB for the WG4.
> database.
> 
> Macace
> ======
> 
> We have made a macace version of WG4, the database without sequence
> data.  This can be obtained as a self-extracting archive from
> subdirectory macace on the ftp site, file name macace.WG4.sea.bin.  We
> will try to build a macace.WS4, but this will need to be distributed
> in multiple self-extracting archive files, with instructions on how to
> put the resulting files back together.  This will be the subject of a
> future message.
> 
> Instructions for obtaining updates/the whole thing
> ==================================================
> 
> All the files are available in the following public access accounts
> (anonymous ftp sites) accessible over internet:
> 
>   ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (130.14.20.1) in the USA, in repository/acedb
>   ftp.sanger.ac.uk (193.60.84.11) in England, in pub/acedb
>   lirmm.lirmm.fr (193.49.104.10) in France, in directory genome/acedb
> 
> In each case, log in as user "anonymous" and give a user identifier
> as password.  Remember to transfer the files in BINARY mode by
> typing the word "binary" at the start of your ftp session.  Many
> thanks to NCBI for letting us share in their excellent resource.
> 
> Example:
> 
> ftp ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
> login: anonymous
> password: your user id or email address
> cd repository/acedb             # change to relevant directoy
> binary				# IMPORTANT
> dir				# display files in this directory
> get README
> get NOTES
> get INSTALL
> cd ace4				# change to ace4 directory
> get bin.sunos.4_3.tar.Z		# get program
> cd ../celegans			# change to worm data directory
> mget update.WS1.*		# get all WS1 update files
> quit
> 
> --------------------------------
> 
> Get any update files that you do not have already and read the file
> NOTES before proceeding further.
> 
> Always get a copy of the INSTALL script.  Move it and the .tar.Z files
> into the home directory in which you are installing ACEDB.  Type
> "source INSTALL".  Start acedb (normally by typing "acedb"), click
> "Yes" to accept initialising the database if starting from scratch,
> then choose "Add Update File" from the menu (right button), and press
> "All updates" with the left mouse button.
> 
> If you have a problem making the program work, look at the section
> on problems in NOTES, and if that fails to help, let us know.
> 
> ******************************************************************
> 
> Comments about the data should be sent to the data curator, Sylvia
> Martinelli (sylvia@sanger.ac.uk).
> 
> Comments about the installation procedure, should be sent to Richard
> Durbin (rd@sanger.ac.uk)
> 
> ********************************************************************
> 
> FILE DIVISIONS FOR UPDATE WS4 FEB 98
> ====================================
> 
> UPDATE.WS4.4-1.TAR.Z AND UPDATE.WG4.4-1.TAR.Z BOTH
> CONTAIN THE WSPEC/, WSCRIPTS, PICTURES, WGF/ AND WHELP/
> DIRECTORIES.
> 
> 
> 20045766 Feb  3 16:31 dna.1.ace			update.WS4.4-1
> 20002743 Feb  3 16:32 dna.2.ace                 update.WS4.4-2
> 20041832 Feb  3 16:32 dna.3.ace                 update.WS4.4-3
> 20020535 Feb  3 16:33 dna.4.ace                 update.WS4.4-4
> 20000377 Feb  3 16:33 dna.5.ace                 update.WS4.4-5
> 20009870 Feb  3 16:34 dna.6.ace                 update.WS4.4-6
>  5039173 Feb  3 16:34 dna.7.ace                 update.WS4.4-7
> 
>  2196036 Jan 29 12:17 LongText.9801.ace		update.WS4.4-8
>  2046998 Jan 29 12:22 Motif.9801.ace		update.WS4.4-8
> 
> 20000250 Feb  3 17:18 prot.1.ace                update.WS4.4-9
> 20001473 Feb  3 17:18 prot.2.ace                update.WS4.4-10
> 20024947 Feb  3 17:19 prot.3.ace                update.WS4.4-11
>  7927522 Feb  3 17:19 prot.4.ace                update.WS4.4-12
> 
> 20000092 Feb  3 17:02 pep.1.ace                 update.WS4.4-13
>  4625232 Feb  3 17:03 pep.2.ace                 update.WS4.4-14
> 
> 20051234 Feb  3 17:26 seq.1.ace                 update.WS4.4-15
> 20029307 Feb  3 17:27 seq.2.ace                 update.WS4.4-16
> 20000589 Feb  3 17:28 seq.3.ace			update.WS4.4-17
> 20007206 Feb  3 17:28 seq.4.ace			update.WS4.4-18
> 20005199 Feb  3 17:29 seq.5.ace			update.WS4.4-19	
> 20000782 Feb  3 17:29 seq.6.ace			update.WS4.4-20
> 16893242 Feb  3 17:30 seq.7.ace			update.WS4.4-21
> 
> 		      gene.1.ace		update.WS4.4-22 update.WG4.4-1
> 		      gene.2.ace                update.WS4.4-23 update.WG4.4-2
> 		      gene.3.ace                update.WS4.4-24 update.WG4.4-3
> 
>  1564442 Feb  2 16:52 seq_AC_numbers.ace	update.WS4.4-25
>     1374 Feb  3 13:40 stl.seq.nospp.ace		update.WS4.4-25
>     1274 Feb  4 12:03 xmap.fix.ace		update.WS4.4-25 update.WG4.4-3
>      264 Feb  4 12:03 yseqmap.delete.ace	update.WS4.4-25 update.WG4.4-3
> 	              link.fix.ace              update.WS4.4-25
>                       Clonegrid.ace		update.WS4.4-25 update.WG4.4-3
>                       Picture.fix.ace		update.WS4.4-25 update.WG4.4-3
> 
> 		      methods.ace + pictures	update.WS4.4-26 update.WG4.4-4
> 
> gene.1.ace, gene.2.ace, gene.3.ace contain the bulk of acedb classes
> and form the basis of WG4 database. They deliberately exclude
> proteins, motifs, dna, and the bulk of sequence annotations.
> 
> -------------------- end of message --------------------
> 

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 09 23:00:00 1998
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From: "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein@nih.gov>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: ace client/server problems on  Irix 6.2
Date: 10 Apr 1998 14:48:15 GMT
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Hi,

I'm experiencing great difficulty in making the ace client/server run
properly.  I have installed ACEDB along with the worm data so that it is
operating correctly in the normal stand-alone mode.  I am using the
pre-compiled Irix binary for the client, while for the server I am using a
binary which I built on my Irix 6.2 system using GCC.  Here is an excerpt
from the server log file:

#### Server starts 1998-04-10_12:05:59
#### host=(unknown)  port=20000114  ACEDB=/disk3/people/epstein/acedb
#### clientTimeout=600 serverTimeout=600 maxKbytes=0 autoSaveInterval=600

New Client 1, 1 active clients
Unauthorised access by client 1, magic = 273341400 != look->writeMagic =
-14132124, look->readMagic = 66998898

Closing Client 1, 0 active clients

No more active clients, starting to count-down: 600 s //
1998-04-10_12:06:16


Thanks in advance for any assistance,

- Jonathan


-- 
Jonathan Epstein                                Jonathan_Epstein@nih.gov
Unit on Biologic Computation                    (301)402-4563
Office of the Scientific Director               c/o Bldg 31, Room 2A52
Nat. Institute of Child Health and Development  31 Center Drive
National Institutes of Health                   20892

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Fri Apr 10 23:00:00 1998
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From: "germain sirois" <rchenier@globetrotter.qc.ca>
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Subject: test
Date: 11 Apr 1998 13:49:17 GMT
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bonjour je fait juste un test

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sat Apr 11 23:00:00 1998
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a product or service to market. 

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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Apr 13 23:00:00 1998
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From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg <mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr>
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Subject: server client
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#### Server starts 1998-04-10_12:05:59
#### host=(unknown)  port=20000114  ACEDB=/disk3/people/epstein/acedb
#### clientTimeout=600 serverTimeout=600 maxKbytes=0 autoSaveInterval=600

New Client 1, 1 active clients
Unauthorised access by client 1, magic = 273341400 != look->writeMagic =
-14132124, look->readMagic = 66998898

Closing Client 1, 0 active clients

=================

It seems that the file wspec/server.wrm is badly configured
with the code 4_5 you need in that file a line
WRITE_ACCESS_DIRECTORY /disk3/people/epstein/lock
READ_ACCESS_DIRECTORY PUBLIC

if you wish every body to read or

READ_ACCESS_DIRECTORY /disk3/people/epstein/lock

to stay private

may be you should recompile the client, since you recompiled anyway the
big server code

make aceclient

please let me know of further problems

jean

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Apr 14 23:00:00 1998
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You send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in the article. You 
then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and
post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. No catch, that was it. The
main difference between this system and others is that you have a
mailing list of 6 instead of 5... This means that your average gain will be 
app. 15 times higher!!!
So after thinking it over, I thought about trying it. I figured what
have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00?
If you are worried about the legal aspects of it all, check it out with
the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161). It is legal!  I have invested the
$6.00.............
The process is very simple and consists of 3 easy steps. You may
wonder why I tell you this?  It's only possible with your desire to
become wealthy too. So go for it!
Here are the steps:
STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each
piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 6 US$1.00
bills (or equivalent in your local currency) and place ONE inside EACH
of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the
envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 6
envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each
with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name and address,
and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by this. 
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!
Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:



#1    B. Johansen, Nyborgvej 279 st mf, 5220 Odense SOE, Denmark

#2    E. Pearce, P.O. Box 166, Townsend, DE 19734, USA

#3    G. Montgomery, P.O. Box 38, Warwick, MD 21919, USA

#4    W.Doyle, P.O. Box 196686, Winter Springs, FL, 32719, USA

#5    T.Lemke, Baumstr.24, 42651 Solingen, Germany

#6    Nicholas Socrates, Homedene, St Brelade's Bay, Jersey, United Kingdom, JE3 8EA



STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as
number 6 on the list.
STEP 3: Change anything you need to. Now, post your amended article to
at least 200 newsgroups. (There is a bunch out there). All you need is
200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make!  Don't
know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the following:
-----------------------------------------------------------
DIRECTIONS - HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS
-----------------------------------------------------------
Step 1.  You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own
posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and
click and hold down your mouse button. While
continuing to hold down the mouse button, drag your cursor to the 
bottom of this document and over to just after the last character, and release
the mouse button. At this point the entire
letter should be highlighted. Then, from the 'edit' pull down menu at
the top of your screen select 'copy'. This will copy the entire letter
into the computers memory.
Step 2.  Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top 
of the blank page. From the 'edit' pull down menu select 'paste'. This 
will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so
that you can add your name to the list. Remember to eliminate the #1
position, move everyone up a spot (re-number everyone else's 
positions), and add yourself in as #6.
Step 3.  Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do
your postings in different sittings, you'll always have this file to go
back to.
----------------------------------------
FOR NETSCAPE USERS:
----------------------------------------
Step 4.  Within the Netscape program, go to the pull down window
entitled 'Window' select 'NetscapeNews'. Then from the pull down menu
'Options', select 'Show all Newsgroups'. After a few moments a list of
all the newsgroups on your server will show up. Click on any newsgroup
you desire. From within this newsgroup, click on the 'TO NEWS' button,
which should be in the top left corner of the newsgroups page. This 
will bring up a message box.
Step 5.  Fill in the Subject. This will be the header that everyone 
sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group.
Step 6.  Highlight the entire contents of your .txt file and copy them
using the same technique as before. Go back to the newsgroup 'TO NEWS'
posting you are creating and paste the letter into the body of your
posting.
Step 7.  Hit the 'Send' Button in the upper left corner. You're done
with your first one! Congratulations...
--------------------------------------------------
INTERNET EXPLORER USERS:
--------------------------------------------------
Step 4.  Go to newsgroups and select 'Post an Article'.
Step 5.  Fill in the subject.
Step 6.  Same as #6 above
Step 7.  Hit the 'Post' button.
-------------------------------------------
THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post
away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for
each newsgroup!
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY 
YOU WILL
MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will 
begin receiving money from around the world within day's! You may eventually
want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you receive. If
you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, 
as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE
ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now the WHY part:  Out of 200 
postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example).  So then I made 
$5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just
sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each
with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original
5,  that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM
posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an
additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the
MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will
make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those
625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each
only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125
persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at
#1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive
$15,625,00! With a original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! And as I
said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30! So
lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what 
you will make:
at #6 $15.00
at #5 $225.00
at #4 $3,375.00
at #3 $50,625.00
at #2 $759,375.00
at #1 $11,390,625.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the
list, putting your name at number 6 again( That's what I am doing), and
start posting again. The thing to remember is, do you realize that
thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and
reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $6.00 and
see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is
played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the 
chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new 
honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are
willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users,
every day, with thousands of those joining the actual internet.
Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to
be honest.
Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a 
list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the
newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY 
IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the
money!!
GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
this, which is tons of extra CASH.
**BY THE WAY, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with
your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the
people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked
to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's
after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 $1.00 bills, people 
added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the
fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the
world without costing anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy
mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars.  Please remember to 
declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
"The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their 
dreams."
list of news servers :
http://www.jammed.com/~newzbot/sorted-speed.html


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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Apr 19 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!SEAS.UPENN.EDU!siddhart
From: siddhart@SEAS.UPENN.EDU ("Siddharth E Fernandes")
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: ACEDB
Date: 20 Apr 1998 13:00:01 -0700
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Dr.  Matthews,

	I'm sorry for the ambiguity of my message.  I wanted to take text 
data from the web and convert it onto ACEDB format.  I am not on the 
bionet acedb newsgroup/mailing-list.  Please tell me how to subscribe to 
this list.  Thank you for your time.

Siddharth Fernandes

> 
> Hi Siddharth,
> 
> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "plate location information", but
> maybe the Probe_Grid feature would help you?  There's no help about
> this in the ACEDB Documentation Library, and I've never used it myself.
> I'll forward your message to the bionet acedb newsgroup/mailing-list.
> I'm sure there must be someone on the list who's been working on the same
> problem.
> 
> (If you aren't already subscribed to this list, let me know and I'll tell
> you how.)
> 
> - Dave
> 
> 
> > Subject: Re: ACEDB
> > To: matthews@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu (Dave Matthews)
> > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:23:15 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: "Siddharth E Fernandes" <siddhart@seas.upenn.edu>
> > 
> > Dr.  Matthews,
> > 
> > 	I would like to thank you and you colleagues for the work you 
> > have done with the ACEDB documentation library page.  It is quite helpful.
> > 	I am curretly trying to export plate location information from 
> > text files in the LLNL homepage.  I was wondering which programs I should 
> > utilize in order to produce a display from text data in ACEDB.  I was 
> > considering using the text convert program (Perl Based) made available 
> > from your page.  Thank you for your time.
> > 
> > Siddharth Fernandes
> 
> 


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Apr 19 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews
From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews")
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: ACEDB
Date: 20 Apr 1998 11:38:34 -0700
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Hi Siddharth,

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "plate location information", but
maybe the Probe_Grid feature would help you?  There's no help about
this in the ACEDB Documentation Library, and I've never used it myself.
I'll forward your message to the bionet acedb newsgroup/mailing-list.
I'm sure there must be someone on the list who's been working on the same
problem.

(If you aren't already subscribed to this list, let me know and I'll tell
you how.)

- Dave


> Subject: Re: ACEDB
> To: matthews@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu (Dave Matthews)
> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:23:15 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Siddharth E Fernandes" <siddhart@seas.upenn.edu>
> 
> Dr.  Matthews,
> 
> 	I would like to thank you and you colleagues for the work you 
> have done with the ACEDB documentation library page.  It is quite helpful.
> 	I am curretly trying to export plate location information from 
> text files in the LLNL homepage.  I was wondering which programs I should 
> utilize in order to produce a display from text data in ACEDB.  I was 
> considering using the text convert program (Perl Based) made available 
> from your page.  Thank you for your time.
> 
> Siddharth Fernandes


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Apr 21 23:00:00 1998
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From: Richard Bruskiewich <rbrusk1@wave.home.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: ACEDB
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:27:45 -0700
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To: Siddharth E Fernandes <siddhart@SEAS.UPENN.EDU>

Hello,

I've had to deal with this general problem before. The key fact is that
there is not generally any one program/script around to convert data
from a particular source into a particular ACEDB database.  The reason
for this is that the structure (syntax/sematics) of the data must be
mapped onto the database schema (ACEDB "models"). Some general tools for
this may be available, but I find that often the best thing is to learn
(the basics of) a general utility scripting language like perl then
tackle the problem yourself.

1.  	Write down all the input data attribute fields. Organise them
	into definable objects (i.e. "Locus", "Clone", "Sequence" etc)

2.	Review your ACEDB models. Attempt to map source data attributes
	onto your existing ACEDB model/tags. Add new tags if necessary.
	"Read models" into your ACEDB database.

3.	Write a perl script which inputs your source data, pattern
	matches or parses the input into its attributes, then
	write out .ace file lines corresponding to the mapped tags.

4.	Read in the data.

If you give me a more accurate idea of precisely what LLNL data you wish
to input into ACEDB (URL?) and precisely what ACEDB models you using,
then perhaps I can advise you on this task, or we can locate existing
scripts (at Sanger, etc.) which might do the task.

Richard Bruskiewich (rbrusk@octogene.medgen.ubc.ca)
Dept. of Medical Genetics
University of British Columbia

Siddharth E Fernandes wrote:
> 
> Dr.  Matthews,
> 
>         I'm sorry for the ambiguity of my message.  I wanted to take text
> data from the web and convert it onto ACEDB format.  I am not on the
> bionet acedb newsgroup/mailing-list.  Please tell me how to subscribe to
> this list.  Thank you for your time.
> 
> Siddharth Fernandes
> 
> >
> > Hi Siddharth,
> >
> > I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "plate location information", but
> > maybe the Probe_Grid feature would help you?  There's no help about
> > this in the ACEDB Documentation Library, and I've never used it myself.
> > I'll forward your message to the bionet acedb newsgroup/mailing-list.
> > I'm sure there must be someone on the list who's been working on the same
> > problem.
> >
> > (If you aren't already subscribed to this list, let me know and I'll tell
> > you how.)
> >
> > - Dave
> >
> >
> > > Subject: Re: ACEDB
> > > To: matthews@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu (Dave Matthews)
> > > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:23:15 -0400 (EDT)
> > > From: "Siddharth E Fernandes" <siddhart@seas.upenn.edu>
> > >
> > > Dr.  Matthews,
> > >
> > >     I would like to thank you and you colleagues for the work you
> > > have done with the ACEDB documentation library page.  It is quite helpful.
> > >     I am curretly trying to export plate location information from
> > > text files in the LLNL homepage.  I was wondering which programs I should
> > > utilize in order to produce a display from text data in ACEDB.  I was
> > > considering using the text convert program (Perl Based) made available
> > > from your page.  Thank you for your time.
> > >
> > > Siddharth Fernandes
> >
> >

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Apr 21 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!merck.com!jeffrey_mcgowan
From: jeffrey_mcgowan@merck.com ("McGowan, Jeffery")
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: converting to .ace files
Date: 22 Apr 1998 12:48:01 -0700
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I'm wondering if anyone can offer me help on either a utility that at least
in part converts a flat file into a .ace file or knows what the format of a
.ace file should look like.


Thanks, jeffrey_mcgowan@merck.com

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 23 23:00:00 1998
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From: "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein@nih.gov>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: aceclient -> PERL (webace) help
Date: 24 Apr 1998 15:29:31 GMT
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I am trying to build aceclient into PERL 5.004_04 on IRIX 6.2.  After
several iterations, I receive the linker errors:

         gcc -D__MATH_H__  -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib32 -L/lib32
-L/usr/gnu/lib  -o perl perlmain.o lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoa
der.a lib/auto/Aceclient/Aceclient.a lib/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.a
lib/auto/IO/IO.a lib/auto/NDBM_File/NDBM_File.a lib/auto/ODBM_File/O
DBM_File.a lib/auto/Opcode/Opcode.a lib/auto/POSIX/POSIX.a
lib/auto/SDBM_File/SDBM_File.a lib/auto/Socket/Socket.a libperl.a `ca
t ext.libs` -lm -lc
collect2: ld returned 2 exit status
ld: WARNING 84: /usr/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/mips-sgi-irix5.3/2.7.2.2/libgcc.a is
not used for resolving any symbol.
ld: WARNING 84: /usr/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/mips-sgi-irix5.3/2.7.2.2/libgcc.a is
not used for resolving any symbol.
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "freeinit" -- 1st referenced by
/usr/people/epstein/acedb.source/bin.SGI_GCC/libacecl.a(ace
clientlib.o).
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "freesettext" -- 1st referenced by
/usr/people/epstein/acedb.source/bin.SGI_GCC/libacecl.a(
aceclientlib.o).
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "freecard" -- 1st referenced by
/usr/people/epstein/acedb.source/bin.SGI_GCC/libacecl.a(ace
clientlib.o).
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "freeword" -- 1st referenced by
/usr/people/epstein/acedb.source/bin.SGI_GCC/libacecl.a(ace
clientlib.o).
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "messout" -- 1st referenced by
/usr/people/epstein/acedb.source/bin.SGI_GCC/libacecl.a(acec
lientlib.o).
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "freeclose" -- 1st referenced by
/usr/people/epstein/acedb.source/bin.SGI_GCC/libacecl.a(ac
eclientlib.o).
ld: INFO 60: Output file removed because of error.
*** Error code 1 (bu21)



Upon examining aceclientlib.o, I see many dependencies upon ACE library
functions such as freeinit(), despite the disclaimer at the top that there
are no such dependencies.

Can you either assist me or (what might be easier for both of us) provide
me with an IRIX 6.X PERL binary w/embedded Aceclient support?  I looked for
one on the AGIS site, but without success.

I am including my config.sh below ... I have tried several permutations,
most of which yield me a cleanly-linked PERL, but which issue protests of
the form:

Can't load module Aceclient, dynamic loading not available in this perl.
  (You may need to build a new perl executable which either supports
  dynamic loading or has the Aceclient module statically linked into it.)
 at pacecl.pl line 4
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at pacecl.pl line 4.


Many thanks for any assistance,

- Jonathan


#!/bin/sh
#
# This file was produced by running the Configure script.  It holds all
# the definitions figured out by Configure.  Should you modify any of
# these values, do not forget to propagate your changes by running
# "Configure -S"; or, equivalently, you may run each .SH file yourself.
#

# Configuration time: Fri Apr 17 13:41:37 EDT 1998
# Configured by: epstein
# Target system: irix64 mgchd1 6.2 06101031 ip28 

Author=''
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Id='$Id'
Locker=''
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Mcc='Mcc'
RCSfile='$RCSfile'
Revision='$Revision'
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afs='false'
alignbytes='8'
aphostname=''
ar='ar'
archlib='/usr/local/lib/perl5/IP28-irix/5.00404'
archlibexp='/usr/local/lib/perl5/IP28-irix/5.00404'
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Socket'
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/usr/lib/386 /lib/386 /lib/large /usr/lib/small /lib/small /usr/ccs/lib
/usr/ucblib /usr/local/lib '
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h_sysfile='true'
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intsize='4'
known_extensions='Aceclient DB_File Fcntl GDBM_File IO NDBM_File ODBM_File
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CLD POLL '
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50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 6 18 22 '
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PATCHLEVEL=4
SUBVERSION=4
CONFIG=true
# Variables propagated from previous config.sh file.
pp_sys_cflags='ccflags="$ccflags -DHAS_TELLDIR_PROTOTYPE"'


-- 
Jonathan Epstein                                Jonathan_Epstein@nih.gov
Unit on Biologic Computation                    (301)402-4563
Office of the Scientific Director               c/o Bldg 31, Room 2A52
Nat. Institute of Child Health and Development  31 Center Drive
National Institutes of Health                   20892

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 23 23:00:00 1998
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From: "Rob M. Pecherer" <rmp@ncgr.org>
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Subject: JADE
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:51:02 -0600
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What is the status of JADE?  Is it an on-going, funded project.
Are there reusable components?

I would appreciate a URL if anyone knows of one.

Thanks in advance,
Rob Pecherer
NCGR
Santa Fe, NM


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 23 23:00:00 1998
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From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg <mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr>
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Subject: ace perl
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Lincoln Stein has written a new perl library that we intend to distribute very soon
together with some modifications of the aceserver

People interested to test it immediatly should contact 
 lstein@cshl.org
 mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr

It allows editing the ace server as well as visualising data and, together with the
CGI module allows easy exports to .html documents.

There is a good man page, so far a small amount of examples and the system was already
tested on several architectures (linux/alpha/solaris at least)

THis system is independant from the former perl-ace from Bigwood's group which is part of webace


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"Rob M. Pecherer" <rmp@ncgr.org> writes:
> What is the status of JADE?  Is it an on-going, funded project.
> I would appreciate a URL if anyone knows of one.

Lincoln Stein can answer more definitively than I, but in case Lincoln
isn't reading...

JADE is on-going and funded. More support is pending. Lincoln is
collaborating with the WashU Genome Sequencing Center. See:
	http://stein.cshl.org/jade/

-- 
- Sean Eddy; Dept. of Genetics, WashU School of Medicine, St. Louis
- eddy@genetics.wustl.edu


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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Apr 28 23:00:00 1998
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From: xux@cco.caltech.edu (Xuequn Xu)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Re: ACEDB
Date: 26 Apr 1998 03:48:07 GMT
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Yes, I think Dr. Bruskiewich was right. Writing "ad hoc" scripts/programs
to deal with particular data converting problems is the ONLY way to go.
Perl is an excellent tool in this, and I would like to add emacs, the
"all-purpose" super text editor. With Perl + emacs, you can have many
seemingly impossible things done. Only after you have got into it can you
really appreciate its power... I think many of my fellow ACeDB
entheusiasts would agree on this... 

Xuequn Xu (Robert)
Caltech, Pasadena, CA 91125, USA
http://www.tree.caltech.edu


Richard Bruskiewich (rbrusk1@wave.home.com) wrote:
: Hello,

: I've had to deal with this general problem before. The key fact is that
: there is not generally any one program/script around to convert data
: from a particular source into a particular ACEDB database.  The reason
: for this is that the structure (syntax/sematics) of the data must be
: mapped onto the database schema (ACEDB "models"). Some general tools for
: this may be available, but I find that often the best thing is to learn
: (the basics of) a general utility scripting language like perl then
: tackle the problem yourself.
:
: ...........................
:

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Apr 28 23:00:00 1998
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From: "Farrukh Imtiaz, M.D." <fimtiaz@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: ab.software.developers,alt.binaries.w-software,alt.comp.software,alt.comp.software.financial,alt.comp.software.financial.peachtree,alt.comp.software.tools,alt.geo-software,alt.med.software,bionet.software,bionet.software.acedb
Subject: cd code needed: please help
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:03:08 -0400
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I have a legal copy of Partition Magic 3.0 CD. I have lost the CDs
installation code. Can anyone help me  break the code or supply me with
one




From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Apr 28 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews
From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews")
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: re: acedb current version
Date: 29 Apr 1998 12:00:56 -0700
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> From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg <mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr>
> Subject: acedb current version
> 
> acedb current version is 4.26
> The site http://probe.nal.usda.gov:8000
> is now maintained by Dave matthews

Hi Jean,

No, actually this page is still maintained by the GIG group.  

I do have responsibility (shared with Sam Cartinhour) for the ACEDB
Documentation Library at http://probe.nal.usda.gov:8000/acedocs.

- Dave

From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Apr 28 23:00:00 1998
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From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg <mieg@kaa.crbm.cnrs-mop.fr>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: acedb current version
Date: 29 Apr 1998 19:35:41 +0100
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acedb current version is 4.26
The site http://probe.nal.usda.gov:8000
is now maintained by Dave matthews


From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Apr 29 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!YAHOO.COM!expro123
From: expro123@YAHOO.COM
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: Need programmer
Date: 29 Apr 1998 19:30:16 -0700
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Hello,

       My company is in need of a qualified programmer to write a couple of simple programs for us. We are 
willing to pay the right person a substantial fee for helping us. If you are interested in making some extra 
money, reply to this email with your name, phone number and best time to reach you. I will contact you to 
discuss details.


Thank you for your time,
Ron Hale



From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Apr 29 23:00:00 1998
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From: "Myriam Pinon" <myriam@worldnet.fr>
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Subject: S/N Partition Magic needed
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Hi,
I have an illegal copy of Partiton Magic 3 and I never had the installation
code. Can anyone help me too?
M.

Farrukh Imtiaz, M.D. a écrit dans le message
<6i84ii$gt8@chile.earthlink.net>...
>I have a legal copy of Partition Magic 3.0 CD. I have lost the CDs
>installation code. Can anyone help me  break the code or supply me with
>one
>
>
>



From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Apr 29 23:00:00 1998
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 30 23:00:00 1998
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From: info@ONLINETC.COM
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Subject: Boosting up your scores!!!
Date: 30 Apr 1998 19:33:58 -0700
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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Apr 30 23:00:00 1998
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From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 1 May 1998 02:00:14 -0700
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
------------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
--------------------------------------------------------------------
computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
-------------------------------------------------

To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.


