From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 01 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!AGUK.zeneca.com!Ken.Baker From: Ken.Baker@AGUK.zeneca.com (Baker Ken KC) Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Problems compiling perl with aceclient Date: 2 Oct 1998 06:03:16 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 33 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Hi: I'm trying to set up a web interface to acedb. I've managed to get aceserver running (tested with the C aceclient), but am having great difficulty recompiling perl with the aceclient extensions. I'm following the instructions at http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/ace97/perlace/perlacecl.html and I'm using acedb 4_5. I've tried various distributions of perl from 5.001m to 5.005_02 (including 5.004_01), all with the same result. Perl compiles fine accepting all defaults, except for the install directory (so as not to mess up the version we've already got). I edit instpace.pl, to point at the new version of perl, then run it. When I then try to run Makefile.PL I get a MakeMaker error: 'EXTRALIBS' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. make then fails, with missing includes. Machine is an Alpha, running DU4 Any help appreciated. Cheers, Ken ken.baker@aguk.zeneca.com Ken Baker Bioinformatics Specialist Jealott's Hill Research Station (+44 (0)1344 414591 From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 01 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk!hgmp.mrc.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: Michele Clamp Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: OSP Date: 02 Oct 1998 11:36:11 +0100 Organization: MRC Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: speed.ebi.ac.uk X-Trace: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk 907324572 26761 193.62.196.138 (2 Oct 1998 10:36:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Oct 1998 10:36:12 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Hi, Is the primer selection program osp available to go with the nice little interface? I've rooted about on ftp.wustl.edu but to no avail. 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Date: 15 Oct 1998 16:49:07 GMT Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE Lines: 15 Message-ID: <705923$9vk@darkstar.ucsc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wiyot.cse.ucsc.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Dear Researchers- Can anyone explain how the overlapping set of clones is chosen to represent the C. Elegans data when many alternative clones exist? Furthermore, how are the boundaries chosen? Does this set of clones remain consistent between releases? Thanks in advance, Dave Lin dave@cse.ucsc.edu From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 14 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsgate.netvigator.com!news.netvigator.com!usenet From: wkl228@hongkong.com Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: ¦³¿ú­n­ø­n !!!!! 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From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 14 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!su-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!london-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!diablo.theplanet.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!server3.netnews.ja.net!news.ox.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: John Peden Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Release date for 4.6 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:15:35 +0100 Organization: Oxford University Bioinformatics Centre Message-ID: <362649D7.EC62F159@molbiol.ox.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: path165.path.ox.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.ox.ac.uk 908478664 11060 163.1.19.165 (15 Oct 1998 19:11:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@ox.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Oct 1998 19:11:04 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) Lines: 19 I was wondering if a release date for ACeDB 4.6 had been set, I am very interested in the new scoring by histogram method. 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And SECOND: Recently we got the following fix for the "Tag chooser" button from Sean Walsh: In Acedb.pm cleanModel, change my (@save) = $node->right->right; to, my (@save) = $node->right; The correct function is listed below. sub cleanModel { my ($model) = @_; my ($node); # 1st, get rid of time stamp(s) &usclean($model); foreach $node ($model->findNodes({va=>'XREF'})) { my (@save) = $node->right; my ($parentNode) = $node->left; prune $node; $parentNode->graft(@save) if @save; } foreach $node ($model->findNodes({va=>'UNIQUE'})) { my (@save) = $node->right; my ($parentNode) = $node->left; prune $node; $parentNode->graft(@save) if @save; } foreach $node ($model->findNodes({va=>'REPEAT'})) { my ($parentNode) = $node->left; prune $node; } return $model; } Many thanks for all your help Sean!! Maria Nemchuk Database group Plant Breeding Dept. Cornell Univ. From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Tue Oct 20 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.new-york.net!diablo.cs.uofs.edu!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp2.ptd.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "James Campbell" Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Access97 Compression?????????? Lines: 13 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:30:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.50.133.60 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ptd.net X-Trace: nnrp2.ptd.net 909005430 209.50.133.60 (Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:30:30 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:30:30 EDT Organization: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net Could someone please give me some information about a way to compress a huge Access database so that it would still be able to be accessed by visual basic 5.0. I am with a growing software company and we are very close to our newest release of our program. 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The model for ?map_location contains "Position Float". The desire was to create a table of Locus objects on the map, "Potato-4" and their position values. The following model can be used in Webace on http://probe.nalusda.gov: Sortcolumn 3 Colonne 1 Width 12 Mandatory Visible Class Class Locus >From 0 Colonne 2 Width 12 Mandatory Hidden Class Class Map >From 1 Tag Map Condition Potato-4 Colonne 3 Width 12 Mandatory Visible Float Right_of 2 Tag HERE # Position However, the Tag Chooser in Webace2 does not permit one to select Float in Column 3. One could only select map_location in Column 3, and then try to move to the right and select the Float in a succeeding column: Colonne 3 Width 12 Optional Hidden Class Class map_location Right_of 2 Tag HERE Colonne 4 Width 12 Optional Visible Float Right_of 3 Tag HERE # Position However, there were no position values in the resulting table. Does anybody have a fix for this problem? Thanks, Sam Beer From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Fri Oct 23 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!cnn.nas.nasa.gov!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!xs4all!gate.news.unisource.nl!news.wxs.nl!not-for-mail From: "Pieter van Santen" Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Bioreactor Design Program Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:37:35 +0200 Organization: World Access / Planet Internet Lines: 12 Message-ID: <70sef3$qi9$1@reader3.wxs.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: ut1312.wxs.nl X-Trace: reader3.wxs.nl 909229347 27209 195.121.73.43 (24 Oct 1998 11:42:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wxs.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Oct 1998 11:42:27 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Dear colleague, I developed a program which can be used to design new bioreactors, or to calculate parameters of already used bioreactors. If you are interested, you can find more information at: http://home.wxs.nl/~pvsanten/bioreactor/brd.htm Pieter van Santen From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 25 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews") Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re: map position Date: 26 Oct 1998 05:14:23 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 19 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9810261310.AA00795@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net > this is the sort of table definition i use from xace > ... > > Colonne 3 > Width 12 > Mandatory > Visible > Float > Right_of 2 > Tag HERE # Position > > the third column gives me the position > would that work in webace ? Yes, this definition works fine in both "original" webace and webace2. But in webace2 there's no way to construct it (other than saving the definition and hand-editing). The Tag Chooser form doesn't allow it. - Dave From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Sun Oct 25 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Danielle et jean Thierry-Mieg Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: map position Date: 26 Oct 1998 10:25:30 -0000 Organization: mail-to-news_via_Daresbury_Laboratory Lines: 34 Message-ID: <711imq$jmk$1@mserv2.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: mserv2.dl.ac.uk Original-To: acedb@dl.ac.uk content-length: 375 Return-Path: this is the sort of table definition i use from xace Colonne 1 Width 12 Mandatory Visible Class Class Locus >From 1 Condition u* Colonne 2 Width 12 Mandatory Visible Class Class Map >From 1 Tag Map Colonne 3 Width 12 Mandatory Visible Float Right_of 2 Tag HERE # Position the third column gives me the position would that work in webace ? From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Mon Oct 26 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Sylvia Martinelli Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: acedb curator's course Date: 27 Oct 1998 10:46:14 -0000 Organization: mail-to-news_via_Daresbury_Laboratory Lines: 30 Message-ID: <71489m$lrm$1@mserv2.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: mserv2.dl.ac.uk Original-To: acedb@dl.ac.uk content-length: 743 Return-Path: Dear All I am trying to gage possible interest in a course to be held soon at Hinxton, near Cambridge. It is a 3 day course for curators and administrators of acedb databases, costing 50 pounds per day. Would anyone be interested in participating in a 3 day acedb course on one or other of the following dates : 18 - 20 November 9 - 11 December 6 - 8 January. Comments please to sylvia@sanger.ac.uk. 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James phone 561 540 4028 _________________________________________________________________ TO BE REMOVED FROM OUR LIST, email directresponse@cwix.com and type in "remove" in the subject header or call (561)540 4028 our mailing address is EMAIL KING 1790 Bonhill Rd Mississauga Ontario Canada From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 28 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!btnet-peer!btnet!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Sylvia Martinelli Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: ACEDB course Date: 29 Oct 1998 13:46:18 -0000 Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, Warrington, U.K. Lines: 42 Message-ID: <719rja$ntu$1@mserv2.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: mserv2.dl.ac.uk Original-To: acedb@dl.ac.uk content-length: 1125 Return-Path: Following on from my earlier message to the news groups, a date has been choosen for the course : ACEDB COURSE FOR CURATORS AND ADMINISTRATORS ============================================ To be held in the HGMP Resource Centre, Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, near Cambridge, UK. January 18-20th for 3 full days. Cost : 50 pounds per day to registered users. Details will be posted on the HGMP web site : http://www.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk/About/Courses/ The course is administered by HGMP (as above). The teaching material and teachers are organised by me (Sylvia Martinelli) at the Sanger Centre (sylvia@sanger.ac.uk). I am contemplating changing the time-table slightly so that, on Day I, we concentrate on using the data and displays thus pushing some curatorial matters to Day II. sylvia -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr.Sylvia D. Martinelli phone 01223 494971 (C. elegans database) fax 01223 494919 Informatics Sanger Centre Wellcome Trust Genome Campus Hinxton Cambridge CB10 1SA URL http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/sylvia/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 28 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Richard Durbin Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: Re: Lab database: new user questions Date: 29 Oct 1998 17:58:51 -0000 Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, Warrington, U.K. Lines: 40 Message-ID: <71aacr$4dd$1@mserv2.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: mserv2.dl.ac.uk Original-To: Keith James content-length: 680 Return-Path: Here is an example .ace file with restriction enzyme objects that work, at least here: // data dumped from keyset display Motif : "EcoRI" Match_sequence "GAATTC" Offset 1 Cleavage "G'AATT_C" Overhang 4 Company "Amersham" DNA Motif : "EcoRII" Match_sequence "CCwGG" Isoschizomer "ApyI" Isoschizomer "BstNI" Isoschizomer "MvaI" Isoschizomer "TspAI" Offset 0 Cleavage "'CCwGG_" Overhang 5 Company "BRL" DNA Motif : "EcoRV" Match_sequence "GATATC" Isoschizomer "Eco32I" Offset 3 Cleavage "GAT'ATC" Overhang 0 Company "Amersham" DNA The whole file we made about 7 years ago from rebase is in ftp://ftp.sanger.ac.uk/pub/acedb/useful/restrict.ace Richard From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Wed Oct 28 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!RMplc!rmplc.co.uk!yama.mcc.ac.uk!hydraulix.bangor.ac.uk!manager From: Keith James Newsgroups: bionet.software,bionet.software.acedb Subject: Lab database: new user questions Date: 29 Oct 1998 15:32:57 +0000 Organization: University of Wales, Bangor. Lines: 33 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pwilliams.bangor.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: biosci bionet.software:22158 bionet.software.acedb:2013 I'm using ACeDB to set up a database for our lab along the lines of that available as part of Brain Fristensky's Birch package. I'm running on Linux and have got as far as compiling ACeDB 4.5e and writing some new models to suit our purposes. We will only need a small subset of the default models.wrm, I think. I've read lots of documentation and been through Dejanews etc., but I am still unsure of a couple of points. Firstly, how to enter restriction enzymes to enable searching by enzyme name rather than typing in the site. I can enter them, but the search still complains that my keyset contains no oligos or enzymes, so I am doing something wrong. My motifs class looks like the standard one. I'd also like to be able to search for oligos in the same way. I found a pointer to an ace file of enzymes which sadly was no longer there when I looked. I presume the elegans data itself contains this, but it's a big download. Is there any documentation specifically on how the motif/oligo/restriction model and search work? Secondly, when blast searching the system complains about not finding the blast script. I've checked obvious things like its presence in the wscripts directory and its file permissions. What else should I look for? 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Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <71aacr$4dd$1@mserv2.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: pwilliams.bangor.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: biosci bionet.software:22172 bionet.software.acedb:2017 >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Durbin writes: Richard> Here is an example .ace file with restriction enzyme Richard> objects that work, at least here: Thanks, Richard. Armed with much coffee I re-edited my models.wrm and all is well. Your example objects work for me now. I think I'll make a rebase2ace script to get the rest. -- Keith James -- k.james@bangor.ac.uk -- http://www.bangor.ac.uk/~bss194 Biodegradation Group - School of Biological Sciences - University of Wales PGP preferred when your e-mail is not for 3rd parties - www for Public Key Public Key fingerprint is 8F 60 5A 4D DB A9 23 65 7D 95 62 19 F0 9C A8 E0 From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 29 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!MYMAIL.COM!howdy11 From: howdy11@MYMAIL.COM Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: We Bulk Email! Date: 30 Oct 1998 00:46:09 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 12 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199810300837.BAA13776@mailhub.mymail.com> Reply-To: howdy11@mymail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Announcing a Bulk Friendly Isp! Stop Getting Kicked offline for Bulk Emailing! Call Email Direct Today! If you want Advertise your Business to millions a people across the internet call us Today. For Only 125$ per month you can reach 35,000 people per week(5000 per day) through our ISP. You also get a bulletproof Email Acount. ( plus a 50$ setup fee) Other Packages Available Call Online DIrect Today 513 874 7437 From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 29 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU!matthews From: matthews@GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU ("Dave Matthews") Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: missing hits in Global Search Date: 30 Oct 1998 15:00:54 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 21 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9810302257.AA24020@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net The Help for the Main Window says: : 2. You can search the database by typing a text string in the Text Search : box (first click on it with the left button to make it yellow). This will : find all the objects in the database which contain the search text. More : precisely, we find all objects whose name contains the search string, all : objects that refer to this object, and all objects containing searchable : Text (or other X class data) containing the search string. In ace4_6 the Global Search box doesn't find objects that refer to the object. E.g. a search for "pgm-1" fails to find the object Germplasm : "LA2437" Gene "pgm-1" if the Gene field is of type ?Gene. Is this an intentional change in ace4_6? I liked it better the way the Help describes. - Dave From owner-acedb@net.bio.net Thu Oct 29 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!CWIX.COM!e.and From: e.and@CWIX.COM Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: advertisement Date: 30 Oct 1998 12:59:06 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 38 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199810302059.MAA15713@net.bio.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Digital Cities move over! Sidewalk move over!! City Search watch out!! 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The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/. If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet information searches or answer scientific questions. Please post those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. Contents: -------- 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! ------------------------------ BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our Web site at http://www.bio.net/. We need just a few minutes of your time to help us serve you. You can do two important things which will take very little time for you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you. First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the archives. You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as described in item #1 below. Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term. Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass this message on to your marketing or marketing communications department or other appropriate group. Please ask them to help support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are interested, they can then contact us for further information at our tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net. 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. -------------------------------------------------------- As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net. One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured properly to send e-mail. Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS index. The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address database described in another item further below. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. ------------------------------------------------------- BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups), mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/. The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net). Unfortunately it is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of newsgroups and mailing lists. These attempts to grab free advertising are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net terminology. USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the mailing lists. However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses and hit these too, so neither medium is immune. What should you do personally if you get junk mail? --------------------------------------------------- Just delete it and move on without reading it further. Filing a protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from. Unless you really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing. What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups? ---------------------------------------------------- The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup. If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape. Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists completely. Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the time to review each message before it goes out. We have set up software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed. This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass it on, say about 1 min. per message. Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible for their newsgroup. The discussions leaders and their e-mail addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. If a newsgroup is being hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group. Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your complaint. With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net. We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator is willing to do the work. For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this entails only a few minutes of work each day. Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings on the USENET distribution. Unfortunately there are easy ways for determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET, but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if the newsgroup is moderated. You can also access our newsgroups over the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net. While this Web interface will not stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of your personal mail files. For those of you with local USENET news systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new newsgroups and recent postings. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. ------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the newsgroups and mailing lists. People who do this only bother everyone on the lists to no avail. Please be sure to follow the proper procedures below. Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at http://www.bio.net. Below we give an example utilizing the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites: Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI ------------------------------------------------------------------ node at computer net.bio.net: ---------------------------- A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for the group. These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet. For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is methods@net.bio.net. The listname is the portion of the address to the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods". The listname is used with the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below. B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to biosci-server@net.bio.net. Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup posting addresses! Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it will be ignored. C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g., subscribe methods unsubscribe methods end Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines. The server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list. Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells you that you are not a member. Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at -------------------------------------------------------------------- computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk): ------------------------------------------------- To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended. The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the appropriate commands are sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk, NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses. As usual, include the text in the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored. To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use unsub bionet-news Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. ----------------------------------------------------------- Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have not already done so. You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL http://www.bio.net/adrform.html. The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is http://www.bio.net/). If you are not directly on the Internet but can reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user directory. waismail use is described above. You can also request a user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net. Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your address information is still up-to-date. Because of our limited personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have resources to edit old forms.