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Hi,

I'm trying to figure out exactly how the 'Score_bounds' and
'Right_priority' tags work in the method class.

I can see the effect of changing them on my sequence displays, but it is
quite hard to systematically determine how changing the range for
'Score_bounds' changes the display (particularly when there are several
different Method objects for different BLAST treatments).

Can anyone offer any help or point me somewhere on the web?

Thanks,

Keith

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Anyone have any news as to a release date for the UNIX version of
release 4.8 (the sockets version)?

There seems to be little (new) news these days on the acedb web site.

Keith

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Keith,

> Anyone have any news as to a release date for the UNIX version of
> release 4.8 (the sockets version)?

You can get a stable development version (I guess you'd call this a
beta-release) to try out from:


ftp://ftp.sanger.ac.uk/pub/acedb/Sanger-release.2000_07_14.tar.gz

have you tried this ?


> There seems to be little (new) news these days on the acedb web site.

Yup, I'm afraid that's true, we have been really busy getting acedb 4_8 in to
shape to be a formal public release (it will be known as acedb 4_9).

We are planning some big improvements to the web site and now have an extra body
to help us make those improvements (John Sturdy, jcgs@sanger.ac.uk).

I collected a wish-list for improvements to the web site from the acedb 2000
conference in Vancouver, but if anyone has any suggestions they'd like to make
then please email me and John.

cheers Ed

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Hello François,

Were you able to ever get gifaceserver running?  If not, you might try
starting the portmap server before starting gifaceserver.  To do this in
linux, type the following as root:
# /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start

Hope this helps (although this is more than a month later.)
- Robert


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Hi all,

I am using acedb for annotation.  I was wondering if there is a way to
update the dna sequence for a clone, to add more to it, while preserving
the existing annotations.  I have done it in the past by hand, changing
all the froms and tos, but it is a royal pain.  Is there a nice way to
do that?  If I just delete the DNA sequence and add the new one, will
the annotation be automatically updated?

Thanks.
Jody

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> I am using acedb for annotation.  I was wondering if there is a way to
> update the dna sequence for a clone, to add more to it, while preserving
> the existing annotations.  I have done it in the past by hand, changing
> all the froms and tos, but it is a royal pain.  Is there a nice way to
> do that?  If I just delete the DNA sequence and add the new one, will
> the annotation be automatically updated?

Hi Jody,

Sadly the answer to the last question is no.  Not unless the
coordinates remain the same.  You have to keep track and remap
coordinates yourself.  There is some code that does some of this, but
as so often it is not complete and doesn't do it right, so can't be
exposed to the world.

Richard





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Hello

UNDER LINUX (red-hat 6.1)
    When i launch acedb and make a blast the application close at the
end of the blast.
UNDER SUN
    When i launch acedb and make a blast, only the window who say  wait
5 minutes close at the end of the blast.

Apparently the reason is the code follow.
lines 193 of blast_search

# Finally, mv $2.b to $2.out and signal acedb
mv $2.b $2.out
if ($1 != "0") kill -USR1 $1

My request is UNDER LINUX  how to close a window and only a window, not
the application

Thanks ... 8-)


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Hi all!

does Acedb strictly follow the guidelines for GFF2 as described on the
sanger website?  I am only asking as I have just modified the BioPerl
Feature modules such that they dump and read strictly compliant GFF2...
(or at least, as "strictly" as I can understand from my own reading of
the format overview...).

I am just wondering if this will facilitate movement between Ace and
BioPerl, or if Ace uses its own flavour of GFF...

Cheers all!

M

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On 20 Nov 2000 JRSchwartz@lbl.gov wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am using acedb for annotation.  I was wondering if there is a way to
> update the dna sequence for a clone, to add more to it, while preserving
> the existing annotations.  I have done it in the past by hand, changing
> all the froms and tos, but it is a royal pain.  Is there a nice way to
> do that?  If I just delete the DNA sequence and add the new one, will
> the annotation be automatically updated?

DNA sequences are usually specified as 'UNIQUE' objects in most acedb
databases, so if you try to read a new DNA sequence as part of an existing
Sequence object it should just replace the existing DNA sequence but not
change anything else.

E.g. if your sequence/clone object in your database is something like:


Sequence : "EMBL:AB006697"
DNA      "EMBL:AB006697" 80970
Version  "AB006697.1"
Database_date    "26-OCT-2000"
Species  "Arabidopsis thaliana"
Title    "Arabidopsis thaliana genomic DNA, chromosome 5, P1 clone:MAH20."
Clone    "MAH20"


Then all you should have to do is put your new DNA sequence in an ace file
with the same name as that which already exists and read this into the
database.


Keith

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could someone send me a few lines of a GFF2 dump from Acedb so that I can
test it against my BioPerl GFF2 parser?  Please chose something "tricky" if
possible as I would like to give it a thorough testing...

thanks!

M

Richard Durbin wrote:

> Acedb is meant to generate strict version 2 GFF if you set the -version 2
> flag with seqfeatures.  If it does not, we should either clarify the GFF
> specification, or fix acedb.
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Acedb is meant to generate strict version 2 GFF if you set the -version 2
flag with seqfeatures.  If it does not, we should either clarify the GFF
specification, or fix acedb.

Richard


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Hi

We've moved labs recently and have moved our acedb database to a new server
(from OSF1 on an alpha to SunOS 5.7). Now when I start the new database I
get 
// Database has non-native byte-order: swapping
(I tried editing and saving but that's not enough to fix it)

This doesn't seem to be a problem right now but I just wondered if it leaves
us more open to crashes or if it will make queries slow? How could I swap
the byte order?

thanks

Janet

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Hi,

Is there any chance of getting access to the AceBrowser scripts used for
Wormbase?  I noticed that they use the script 'epic' rather than 'pic'
(which comes with the default AceBrowser setup) to display graphical views
of sequences.

The reason I ask is that I would like to see the mechanics of the
'epic' script as it doesn't crash in some situations whereas the standard
'pic' script does.  For instance, if I click on a piece of text
information in our AceBrowser displays (for our AGR database)
(e.g. the contents of a remark tag) it returns an internal server error.
It doesn't seem to do this for remark tags in wormbase.  I also get
problems when clicking on gene name or loci objects where it tries to
display the resulting (textual) information as a graphic.

I would also like to see how the new graphical depiction of sequences at
the top of the Wormbase sequence report pages are generated.   Is this
stuff publically accessible anywhere?  Should it be?


As an aside, I've also noticed that www.wormbase.org seems to be running
on acedb 4.8 unlike the sanger version.  This results in quite a different
depiction of colours, e.g. contrast:

http://wormbase.sanger.ac.uk/perl/ace/elegans/misc/epic?class=Sequence&name=B0207.4
http://www.wormbase.org/perl/ace/elegans/misc/epic?class=Sequence&name=B0207.4

The colours on the www.wormbase.org site are quite hard on the eyes.
Does this mean that 4.8 is nearly ready for a full release???

Hope someone can help,

Keith



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I have just downloaded and installed acedb_4.71.  The README that
accompanies it states that the acedb distribution directory should contain
at least INSTALL, ace4_7x, celegans, and doc directories - however none of
these are present.  The README also states that there is a further README
inside each subdirectory - which there isn't.  The documentation archive
at http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/index.html no longer exists.
Please could someone update the README?

regards

Lavinia Hyde
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Lavinia,

> I have just downloaded and installed acedb_4.71.  The README that
> accompanies it states that the acedb distribution directory should contain
> at least INSTALL, ace4_7x, celegans, and doc directories - however none of
> these are present.  The README also states that there is a further README
> inside each subdirectory - which there isn't.  The documentation archive
> at http://probe.nalusda.gov:8000/acedocs/index.html no longer exists.
> Please could someone update the README?

uuuggghhh, a fair cop on all counts. You are not the first to discover that
acedb documentation is not brilliant.

OK, I'll make a rash promise... the next release level of acedb (4_9) is soon to
be released and I'll make sure all README's are up to date for that new release.

Really sorry about the state of the docs....

If you have any questions do post them to this newsgroup or mail acedb
developers direct at acedb@sanger.ac.uk.

cheers Ed

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