From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jan 01 22:00:00 1996
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From: tcnixon@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Nixon )
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Subject: Points of interest
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Hello!

     I am a freelance writer working on a project concerning the
academic research capabilities and assets of the internet.  I am
particularly interested in which sites/resources (WWW, Gopher, FTP,
Lists, etc.) that regular users/researchers find most beneficial.  I am
seeking input from professors, teachers, researchers, students, and
anyone else who has something to contribute.

     Please reply here, or preferably to:  tcnixon@netcom.com


Tom Nixon

P.S.  I apologize for the crossposting.  This is the only time that
this post will appear in this newsgroup.  

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jan 01 22:00:00 1996
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From: docclipper@aol.com (DocCLIPPER)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
Subject: DHEA Blood test
Date: 2 Jan 1996 07:40:03 -0500
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Has any one done the DHEA/ Dhea-s Blood test.  Does every lab do it or
only at very large university centers.  Do you do both DHEA/DHEA-S test
together or can you do it alone.    Peter

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jan 01 22:00:00 1996
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From: James Hoy <james@central.co.nz>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension
Subject: Re: DHEA legal to purchase in U.S.A?
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This is my first visit here, so excuse my ignorance.

What is the legal status of melatonin in the US? Is it a food?

And does anyone know a manufacturer I could contact for supply to New
Zealand?

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jan 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: dhealth@gate.net (diane hein)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
Subject: Which amino acids are incorporated into muscle?
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Could anyone tell me which amino acids are incorporated into muscle.

I know that the branched chains are, taurine, alanine and glutamine.

Are there any other?

Thank you.

D. Hein

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jan 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: rlh115@aol.com (RLH115)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
Subject: request help with research project related to antibodies
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I am presently a student (with a biological research background) in a
masters degree program in business administration.  I am conducting a
market survey to be used for a research paper to complete my degree
requirements.  The short one page questionaire examines the use of
antibodies in all of the biological science fields.  I would greatly
appreciate the help of any individual who currently uses any antibodies
for any reason to quickly take my questionaire.  Since I am a student, I
am unable to compensate anyone for their response.  All individual
information will be confidential.  However, I am willing to provide any
participant who requests it with a summary of the results upon completion
of the project.

If you are willing to assist me on my project, please e-mail me with a
short request- " send survey"  to:    rlh115@aol.com

Thank you for your time.


R. Henderson
The Pennsylvania State University

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jan 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: boliver@Direct.CA (Bill Oliver)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
Subject: Melatonin -down side
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I've been taking melatonin for two weeks.I feel great,tons of energy
and a feeling of well being.Has anyone heard adown side?

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jan 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: "P.C. Visser" <visser@pi.net>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension
Subject: Re: DHEA legal to purchase in U.S.A?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 22:45:35 +0100
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Michael Behlen wrote:
> 
>      I phoned several health food stores and inquired about DHEA.
>      I was informed that this product is not legal to purchase without
>      a doctors prescription.  I see notices on this usenet offering
>      to sell DHEA.  Why can they offer DHEA, but I can not get it a
>      a local health food store?
> 
>      Mike

Dear Mike,
Here an other answer to your question:
We phoned the FDA, they told us that DHEA is a nutritional supplement
and can be bought without prescription.

Kind regards,

Euro Care Mailorder Pharmacy
Casper F. Lacle, M.D.

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jan 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: xdcrlab@quake.net (Mike Davis)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension
Subject: Re: DHEA legal to purchase in U.S.A?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 13:43:00 -0700
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In article <xdcrlab-3012952000550001@xdcrlab.com>, xdcrlab@quake.net (Mike
Davis) wrote:
> 
> I recently called Life Extension Products and was able to order the real
> thing without any problem,

Oops, make that Life Enhancement Products.

-- 
Articles: Melatonin, Folate, Tryptophan, etc.; Discount Source List, 
         http://www.quake.net/~xdcrlab/hp.html, the SpringBoard
ULTRANET: Ultrasound Technology Graphic Hot Links
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Save the BW, I report unsolicited commercial email to the
                       Blacklist of Internet Advertisers

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jan 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
Subject: BIOSCI miniFAQ, ver. 14-DEC-95
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(LAST REVISION: 14-DEC-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

	Contents:
	--------
	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index in addition to the master index for the entire set.  The main
BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS Table of Contents
database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address database described in
another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
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PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
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computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
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To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jan 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: schlegel@tiac.net (Lawrence Schlegel)
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Subject: Re: Points of interest
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In article <4ca6qk$knt@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, tcnixon@ix.netcom.com
(Thomas Nixon ) wrote:

> Hello!
> 
>      I am a freelance writer working on a project concerning the
> academic research capabilities and assets of the internet.  I am
> particularly interested in which sites/resources (WWW, Gopher, FTP,
> Lists, etc.) that regular users/researchers find most beneficial.  I am
> seeking input from professors, teachers, researchers, students, and
> anyone else who has something to contribute.
> 
>      Please reply here, or preferably to:  tcnixon@netcom.com
> 
> 
> Tom Nixon
> 
> P.S.  I apologize for the crossposting.  This is the only time that
> this post will appear in this newsgroup.  

I love the internet.  There is so much out there.  At school (Wesleyan
University) and home I have access to the WWW, which is great.  The amount
of information available is amazing and very overwhelming.  I just wish I
knew more about it and how to access everything it has to offer.  I did
want to make a comment for your project, if it matters, and that is that
it is great that several universities and colleges (actually most) offer
relatively free (a low monthly cover fee) personal access and free
general/campus-wide access.  I believe this availability is definitely a
significant factor to its widespread use and effectiveness at institutions
of higher education.  'Just wanted to drop a quick note for a worthy
project.  I'd like to know what the results of your project are.:)
sschlegel@wesleyan.edu

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jan 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: rlh115@aol.com (RLH115)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
Subject: request help with research project related to antibodies
Date: 2 Jan 1996 22:29:52 -0500
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I am presently a student (with a biological research background) in a
masters degree program in business administration.  I am conducting a
market survey to be used for a research paper to complete my degree
requirements.  The short one page questionaire examines the use of
antibodies in all of the biological science fields.  I would greatly
appreciate the help of any individual who currently uses any antibodies
for any reason to quickly take my questionaire.  Since I am a student, I
am unable to compensate anyone for their response.  All individual
information will be confidential.  However, I am willing to provide any
participant who requests it with a summary of the results upon completion
of the project.

If you are willing to assist me on my project, please e-mail me with a
short request- " send survey"  to:    rlh115@aol.com

Thank you for your time.


R. Henderson
The Pennsylvania State University

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Wed Jan 03 22:00:00 1996
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From: docclipper@aol.com (DocCLIPPER)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
Subject: DHEA Prescription?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 11:28:07 -0500
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Does anyone know how you write a prescription for DHEA.  Is it under
another name.  Who manufactures it.  What size pills are available.  Is it
hard for local pharmacies to get?         Peter

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jan 05 22:00:00 1996
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From: texasdaddy@aol.com (TexasDaddy)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
Subject: Re: Psyllium Dangers?
Date: 5 Jan 1996 22:23:43 -0500
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A VERY few individuals (usually nurses or pharmacists)  who "handle"
psyllium develop allergic reactions or sensitivities  to it.  The reaction
occurs when psyllium POWDER is advertently sniffed (i.e. BEFORE it is
mixed with water).  The reaction takes the form of seasonal rhinitis, e.g.
sneezing, watering of the eyes, coughing, wheezing, etc.  I have never
heard of a case of anaphylaxis from psyllium but I suppose it is possible.
 
Likewise, I have never heard of reactions to the product once it is mixed
with water.  Individuals who are alergic the power (via inhalation) have
successfully taken it orally if another person mixes it.
I have taken psyllium for years without incident.  

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jan 05 22:00:00 1996
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From: texasdaddy@aol.com (TexasDaddy)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
Subject: Re: Psyllium Dangers?
Date: 5 Jan 1996 22:23:48 -0500
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Here is an added thought:
Psyllium does not "cause" water to be brought into the gut.  Rather it is
hydrophylic, i.e. it absorbs a certain amount of the  water around it. 
That is what it is "supposed" to do.  Taking psyllium with minimal or no
water can be bad news.  There are cases reported in the medical literature
of globs of inadequately diluted psyllium or almost-dry psyllium getting
stuck in the throat and ultimately causing the death of an (usually
elderly) patient.

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In article <4ckq04$b41@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, texasdaddy@aol.com (TexasDaddy) says:
>
>Here is an added thought:
>Psyllium does not "cause" water to be brought into the gut.  Rather it is
>hydrophylic, i.e. it absorbs a certain amount of the  water around it. 
>That is what it is "supposed" to do.  Taking psyllium with minimal or no
>water can be bad news.  There are cases reported in the medical literature
>of globs of inadequately diluted psyllium or almost-dry psyllium getting
>stuck in the throat and ultimately causing the death of an (usually
>elderly) patient.

  How often should one use psyllium.I have heard of people using it 
daily,weekly etc.What do you say?Also how much liquid do you mix it
with?
            

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Subject: Help please!!!!!
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My friend needs the scientific classifications of these organisms:

ticks
bamboo
pandorina
fusarium
pseudomonas

He needs the complete classifications, from kingdom to species.  It is 
rather last minute and will be very much appreciated.  Sorry for the 
inconvenience.

Please direct information to:
birsen.kaya@uc.edu

Thank you very much!!!!



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From: "Heikki Lehvslaiho" <Heikki.Lehvaslaiho@csc.fi>
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>My friend needs the scientific classifications of these organisms:
>
>ticks
>bamboo
>pandorina
>fusarium
>pseudomonas
>
>He needs the complete classifications, from kingdom to species.  It is
>rather last minute and will be very much appreciated.  Sorry for the
>inconvenience.


Taxonomy is a rather controversial science. Moreover, not all everything 
is available in net. There are three good ways of finding taxonomical 
information.

1. Tree of Life
===============
http://phylogeny.arizona.edu/

A very good idea but needs a lot more work to cover more taxons.

2. NCBI Taxonomy Browser
========================
http://www3.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Taxonomy/taxonomyhome.html

The fastest way of finding the complete, hierarcial taxonomy. This 
taxonomy is from molecular biologists point of view. Classical 
taxonomists no doubt disagree in many cases.

SRS (Sequence Retireval System)
===============================
http://cypress.csc.fi:8001/srs/srsc

SRS is the most powerful tool for browsing sequence databases. There are 
more than 15 servers world wide. SRS is developed st EMBL 
(http://www.embl-heidelberg.de:80/srs/srsc). If you check my server (or 
any other European servers), you will notice that the wording of the 
taxon hierarchy differs slightly in the European sequence database EMBL 
from that in US (GenBank).

All the best,

              -Heikki


Here are the  classifications I found :

ticks
=====
http://www3.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Taxonomy/wgetorg?id=6935&lvl=3

Eukaryotae; mitochondrial eukaryotes; Metazoa; Arthropoda; 
Chelicerata; Arachnida; Acari; Parasitiformes, 
Argasidae (soft ticks) | xodidae (hard ticks) 

bamboo, Bambusa sp.
===================
http://www3.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Taxonomy/wgetorg?id=4581&lvl=0

Eukaryotae; mitochondrial eukaryotes; Viridiplantae;
       Charophyta/Embryophyta group; Embryophyta; Magnoliophyta;
       Liliopsida; Poales; Poaceae 


pandorina
=========
http://www3.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Taxonomy/wgetorg?id=33098&lvl=0

Eukaryotae; mitochondrial eukaryotes; Viridiplantae; Chlorophyta;
       Chlorophyceae; Volvocales; Volvocaceae 


Fusarium sp.
============
http://www3.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Taxonomy/wgetorg?id=5506&lvl=0

Eukaryotae; mitochondrial eukaryotes; Eumycota; Ascomycota;
Euascomycetes; Pyrenomycetes; Hypocreales; Hypocreaceae; mitosporic
Hypocreaceae 

OC   Eukaryota; Plantae; Thallobionta; Eumycota; Ascomycotina;
OC   Pyrenomycetes; Hypocreales; Hypocreaceae.

Pseudomonas sp.
===============
http://www3.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Taxonomy/wgetorg?id=286&lvl=0

Eubacteria; Proteobacteria; gamma subdivision

OC   Prokaryota; Bacteria; Gracilicutes; Scotobacteria;
OC   Aerobic rods and cocci; Pseudomonadaceae.



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>From sender@forecasts.com Mon Jan  8 17:14:43 EST 1996
>Article: 2310 of bionet.molbio.ageing
>Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing
>Subject: GERONTOLOGICAL RESEARCH
>Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 18:23:57 GMT
>
>Anyone has information on the best Web site(s) and 
>newsgroups that deal with Aging (or Ageing) and
>Gerontology or gerontological research?
>

Citing from Archives of BMA:

{Try http://www.hookup.net/mall/aging/agesit59.html  This is the home page
 for the Ageing Research Center.
 
 Yours, virtually:-
 
 Jim "Spermatology rules o~ o~ o~ o~" Cummins
 }

 Barani

 barani@mace.cc.purdue.edu

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Anyone has information on the best Web site(s) and 
newsgroups that deal with Aging (or Ageing) and
Gerontology or gerontological research?



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boliver@Direct.CA (Bill Oliver) wrote:

>In article <4ckq04$b41@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, texasdaddy@aol.com (TexasDaddy) says:
>>
>>Here is an added thought:
>>Psyllium does not "cause" water to be brought into the gut.  Rather it is
>>hydrophylic, i.e. it absorbs a certain amount of the  water around it. 
>>That is what it is "supposed" to do.  Taking psyllium with minimal or no
>>water can be bad news.  There are cases reported in the medical literature
>>of globs of inadequately diluted psyllium or almost-dry psyllium getting
>>stuck in the throat and ultimately causing the death of an (usually
>>elderly) patient.

>  How often should one use psyllium.I have heard of people using it 
>daily,weekly etc.What do you say?Also how much liquid do you mix it
>with?
>            

Best to generously mix psylium with water, stir well, 
and leave it in the refrigerator overnight for the water 
to soak in before use


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In <4crn8a$6p2@viper.inow.com> sender@forecasts.com writes:

>boliver@Direct.CA (Bill Oliver) wrote:

>>In article <4ckq04$b41@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, texasdaddy@aol.com (TexasDaddy) says:
>>>
>>>Here is an added thought:
>>>Psyllium does not "cause" water to be brought into the gut.  Rather it is
>>>hydrophylic, i.e. it absorbs a certain amount of the  water around it. 
>>>That is what it is "supposed" to do.  Taking psyllium with minimal or no
>>>water can be bad news.  There are cases reported in the medical literature
>>>of globs of inadequately diluted psyllium or almost-dry psyllium getting
>>>stuck in the throat and ultimately causing the death of an (usually
>>>elderly) patient.

>>  How often should one use psyllium.I have heard of people using it 
>>daily,weekly etc.What do you say?Also how much liquid do you mix it
>>with?
>>            

>Best to generously mix psylium with water, stir well, 
>and leave it in the refrigerator overnight for the water 
>to soak in before use


That sounds extreme -- wouldn't it gel ?  
If I recall correctly, psyllium is the active ingredient in 
soluble fiber supplements / laxatives.  It is supposed to be 
consumed 1-3 times a day (mixed with water and consumed immediately).
If you let it soak in water overnight, you would probably get an
unpleasant gel.    



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From: Matt Chan <csv@calweb.com>
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Subject: requesting help with high school project on ageing
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I attend Kennedy High School in Sacramento, California.  My science group 
and I are writing a report on aging technology.  But we need a few ideas to 
set us "on track".  Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  
Basically, we would like to answer these three questions:

1.)  In what ways can people control the aging process currently?

2.)  In what ways will people be able to control the aging process in 10 
years?  In 25 years?

3.)  What major "breakthrough" will be necessary for an advancement in 
slowing the aging process? (i.e. mapping the entire genome, finding some 
new treatment, etc.,)

Thank you for your any help you can provide.  We look forward to hearing 
from you.

Send any replies to matt.chan@24stex.com


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In article <4crnbu$6p2@viper.inow.com>,  <sender@forecasts.com> wrote:
>
>
>Anyone has information on the best Web site(s) and 
>newsgroups that deal with Aging (or Ageing) and
>Gerontology or gerontological research?
>

The following has info

	http://huizen.dds.nl/~d_quale


Louis Kates
louk@orion.uwaterloo.ca

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Try the UCLA Neuroscience Undergraduate Society homepage (address
listed below).

Dan


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Is there any book on Physiology on aging. I'd need not an ageing 
theories compendium, but a book describing which physiological 
changes happen with ageing.

Thanks a lot!

Manel

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From: harasha@facstaff.wisc.edu (Brian Harasha)
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Where can I find out more about the Geron Corporation. I'd like to know 
financial structure, qualification of scientists, peer review, and business 
reviews.

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sorribas@udl.es ("Albert Sorribas") wrote:

>Is there any book on Physiology on aging. I'd need not an ageing 
>theories compendium, but a book describing which physiological 
>changes happen with ageing.

>Thanks a lot!

>Manel
Hi Manel

	A book I liked is titled "How and Why We Age" (I think) by L.
Hayflick. I think it came out last year.

Regards
R. Luly


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They are in Menlo Park, California.  If you call ld info I'm sure they 
will give you phone #.  Please share wht you find out....thanks....Don

On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, Brian Harasha wrote:

> Where can I find out more about the Geron Corporation. I'd like to know 
> financial structure, qualification of scientists, peer review, and business 
> reviews.
> 
> 

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In article <lulyDKzq1z.8sq@netcom.com>, luly@netcom.com (Robert Luly) wrote:

> sorribas@udl.es ("Albert Sorribas") wrote:
> 
> >Is there any book on Physiology on aging. I'd need not an ageing 
> >theories compendium, but a book describing which physiological 
> >changes happen with ageing.
> 
> >Thanks a lot!
> 
> >Manel
> Hi Manel
> 
>         A book I liked is titled "How and Why We Age" (I think) by L.
> Hayflick. I think it came out last year.

For an exhaustive compendium on ageing in most of the animal kingdom, try
"Longevity, Senescence and the Genome" by Caleb E. Finch. Published 1993
or 1994.

-- 
Oliver Bogler
Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research, San Diego Branch
obogler@ucsd.edu

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From: Charles Carter <ccarter2@mustang.uwo.ca>
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sorribas@udl.es ("Albert Sorribas") wrote:
>Is there any book on Physiology on aging. I'd need not an ageing 
>theories compendium, but a book describing which physiological 
>changes happen with ageing.
>

Hi Manel,

   I have the ultimate book for you:  "Practical Handbook of Human 
Biologic Age Determination"  Edited by Arthur K. Balin, M.D. PhD. 
F.A.C.P.   CRC Press Inc. 1994.  It goes through all of the molecular and 
organic physiological changes that take place as one ages.  I was pretty 
excited about it when I first saw it.  It's a great big 10 pound book so 
it MUST be good!  Apparently it was written to give the gerontologist 
some physical benchmarks to assess rates of aging etc.
  
-Chuck



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The previous correspondent wrote:

---Best to generously mix psylium with water, stir well, 
---and leave it in the refrigerator overnight for the water 
---to soak in before use

THE ABOVE  ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT.

The  idea of using psylium is to get it to expand INSIDE your gut.  It
should be mixed with water and GULPED DOWN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.  It
begins to expand almost immediately.

The dose of psyllium is individualized.  You have to find out how much is
the right dose for you.  You might want to take it one to three times a
day to start and to note the effect, e.g. on frequency and quantity of
stool.  

Responses to metamucul (psyllium) are highly individual.  The dose and
frequency that leads to relief for one person may cause constipation for
another.

I can't imagine trying to swallow psyllium that has hardened over night in
the refrigerator.  YUCKO!





From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jan 12 22:00:00 1996
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DocCLIPPER,docclipper@aol.com writes:
<<I have been doing alot of reading on the subject and now I am confused.  
Is Q10 Ubiquinone synthesuzed by the body or is an essential nutrient.  I
had thought that it was coded on mitichondrial DNA and synthesized for the
mitochondrial electron transport system.  Now some people write that an
intake of Q10 is essential.  Who know out there?>>

CoQ10, also known as ubiquinone, is synthesized by the body. Levels decrease
with age, and levels are typically lower than normal in people with serious
diseases, such as cancer or heart disease. It's involved in electron
transport in the mitochondria and in activating adenosine triphosphate (ATP),
which is responsible for energy production in the mitochondria. ATP cannot
function without CoQ10. Technically, it's not considered an "essential"
nutrient because the body produces it. It most definitely is, however, an
essential substance. (It was the core of Peter's Mitchell's 1978 Nobel prize
in chemistry.) But it's fair to assume there's a wide range in how
efficiently people synthesize it. (Synthesis depends on the presence of
numerous nutrients, primarily B vitamins.) I take it. So do the folks
researching CoQ10. There's a feeling that aging results partly as a result of
a decline in CoQ10 production, the opposite of the conventional view. As a
health reporter, I found it to be the most amazing thing I've read about in
25 years.

I have a consumer (non-scientific article, but with references) on CoQ10 at
my web page. The address is http://198.107.48.104/I/Challem.html (That's a
capital "eye" in there.)




Jack Challem
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I have been doing alot of reading on the subject and now I am confused.  
Is Q10 Ubiquinone synthesuzed by the body or is an essential nutrient.  I
had thought that it was coded on mitichondrial DNA and synthesized for the
mitochondrial electron transport system.  Now some people write that an
intake of Q10 is essential.  Who know out there?

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  Found this in today's paper.  Anybody know more?

  Miller Quarles, 81, of Texas is a retired millionaire oil geologist
who is convinced that aging is a curable disease.  Five years ago, he
provided the seed money for anti-aging research by Geron Corp., reports
the Sunday Times of London.  In a paper to be published this spring,
two of Geron's collaborators, Woodring Wright and Jerry Shay of the
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, will claim that they
have been able to reverse the aging process.

   Hmmm...  this sort of thing seems to spring up every few years.        
The'll probably have a 5% increase in cardiovascular function in 60%
of the rats or something like that.  Then someone else will come up
with a sound argument to demonstrate why this has nothing to do with
the aging process.



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I have a friend who is doing a paper on age stereotyping (pertaining to gerontology). Can anyone help?

Thanks.


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<> writes:
> I have a friend who is doing a paper on age stereotyping (pertaining to gerontology). Can anyone help?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
Don't know what to tell you

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You can also find basic information at the following web sites:
http://www.biospace.com:80/exhib_script/exhibs/Geron_Corporation.html
http://www.bio.com/companies/geron.html

In article <harasha.30.000979EF@facstaff.wisc.edu>,
harasha@facstaff.wisc.edu (Brian Harasha) wrote:

> Where can I find out more about the Geron Corporation. I'd like to know 
> financial structure, qualification of scientists, peer review, and business 
> reviews.

Rick Bishop
rbishop@aimnet.com

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In article <4d8ai2$inn@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, docclipper@aol.com (DocCLIPPER) writes...
>I have been doing alot of reading on the subject and now I am confused.  
>Is Q10 Ubiquinone synthesuzed by the body or is an essential nutrient.  I
>had thought that it was coded on mitichondrial DNA and synthesized for the
>mitochondrial electron transport system.  Now some people write that an
>intake of Q10 is essential.  Who know out there?


	I have been taking Q-10 daily since surgery in July, and gained more
energy more quickly than was expected. I, too, would like an answer to the
question above.

	Harry Hill


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There are no manuals per se on the physiology of aging but there is a 
reasonable chapter on aging processes in Shils, Oslon and Shike "Modern 
Nutrition in Health and Disease". Also, ther is a good review on the 
subject published by the director of the USDA Human Nutrition Research 
Center on Aging at Tufts University, where I happen to work:

Rosenberg I.H. at al. Nutritional Factors in Physical and Cognitive 
Functions of Elderly People. Am. Journal of Clin. Nutrition. 55(6 
suppl.) 1237s-1243s. 1992 Jun.

I am sure it will have a lot of references for you.

Good luck!

 



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rwatkins@news.sfu.ca (Russell Floyd Watkins) wrote:

>  Found this in today's paper.  Anybody know more?

>  Miller Quarles, 81, of Texas is a retired millionaire oil geologist
>who is convinced that aging is a curable disease.  Five years ago, he
>provided the seed money for anti-aging research by Geron Corp., reports
>the Sunday Times of London.  In a paper to be published this spring,
>two of Geron's collaborators, Woodring Wright and Jerry Shay of the
>University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, will claim that they
>have been able to reverse the aging process.

>   Hmmm...  this sort of thing seems to spring up every few years.        
>The'll probably have a 5% increase in cardiovascular function in 60%
>of the rats or something like that.  Then someone else will come up
>with a sound argument to demonstrate why this has nothing to do with
>the aging process.


Jerry Shay is a prominent telomere/telomerase researcher. Still, if he
has truly been able to reverse the aging process, I very much doubt
that he would wait until the spring to publish these results. More
likely, his group will report on reversion of some in-vitro parameter
of aging (probably telomere shortening), which is a far cry from true
reversion of aging. One can hope, however...




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>To: ageing@net.bio.net
>From: hilhar@vax2.concordia.ca (HARRY HILL)
>Subject: Re: Q10 Vitamin?
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>In article <4d8ai2$inn@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, docclipper@aol.com (DocCLIPPER)
>writes...
>>I have been doing alot of reading on the subject and now I am confused.
>>Is Q10 Ubiquinone synthesuzed by the body or is an essential nutrient.  I
>>had thought that it was coded on mitichondrial DNA and synthesized for the
>>mitochondrial electron transport system.  Now some people write that an
>>intake of Q10 is essential.  Who know out there?
>
>
>        I have been taking Q-10 daily since surgery in July, and gained more
>energy more quickly than was expected. I, too, would like an answer to the
>question above.
>
>        Harry Hill
>
>
This month's Scientific American has an interesting article about aging
where Ubiqinone plays a prominent role. It shows that things are much more
complicated and not yet understood than you might think.

Gisela Hoschek
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Gisela Hoschek,hoschek@JEEVES.UCSD.EDU writes:
<<This month's Scientific American has an interesting article about aging
where Ubiqinone plays a prominent role. It shows that things are much more
complicated and not yet understood than you might think.>>

The SA article is interesting, but things are better understood than you
might think. The heart of Peter Mitchell's 1978 Nobel prize in chemistry was
related to CoQ10 (uniquinone). I mentioned this quaint fact to my FDA
contact, and his response was "If that's the case, we might have to
reevaluate our position on CoQ10."
Jack Challem
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Almost one and a half year ago, I reported on this news-net about the
publication of our dramatic results on the effects of a plant hormone
kinetin on delaying the ageing of human skin fibroblasts in culture (Rattan
& Clark, BBRC, 201: 665-672, 1994). Since these studies were done by using
the in vitro system of cellular ageing, we have now tested this compound on
an in vivo system of ageing fruitflies. In collaboration with a lab in
India, we have now observed that kinetin delays ageing, prolongs the
lifespan and slows down development of the fruitfly Zaprionus paravittiger
(Sharma, Kaur & Rattan, BBRC, 216: 1067-1071, 1995; November 22 issue).
Although it is still not clear what effects kinetin will have on human
beings by its topical and/or internal use, the recent in vivo results are
encouraging in that direction.
Suresh Rattan

Dr. Suresh I.S. Rattan, PhD; DSc
Laboratory of Cellular Ageing
Department of Chemistry
Aarhus University
DK-8000 Aarhus-C,
Denmark.

(Phone: +45 8942 3956; Fax: +45 8619 6199)



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Does anybody know if the hypothesis that exogenous antioxidants causes a
down regulation of the endogenous oxidative damage repair pathways has
been tested? I guess it would be possible to look at the expression of
various repair enzymes by protein/reporter fusions, Northerns, Quant mRNA
PCR, etc. This hypothesis would explain why antioxidant therapy has been
such a disappointment, except in those system where there is no endogenous
repair system ie. LDL oxidation prevention by  Vitamin E.

-- 
Daniel Jacobs
School of Microbiology & Immunology
University of NSW

'I'm sorry but I don't have a pithy quote'

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Has anyone yet cloned the protein component of human telomerase (or 
mouse)?  Yes, I know Geron has the RNA component but I specifically want 
the protein sequence.  if you have any info I would appreciate hearing 
over e-mail.
Thanks for any help
Odin25@netcom.com

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Ubiquinone (Q10) is a coenzyme in electrone shuttle operations in the 
mitochondria, you are right. And you are right again: it is synthesized 
in the body. In fact, its name comes from the discovery that Q10 is 
ubiquitous in the system. Hence, by definition, it is NOT an essential 
nutrient, or vitamin for humans. People who are trying to prove that it 
is a vitamin are wrong (I will not go into my suppositions as to their 
reasons and motivations...).

Katherine Tsaioun

USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging 
at Tufts University

docclipper@aol.com (DocCLIPPER) wrote:
>I have been doing alot of reading on the subject and now I am confused.  
>Is Q10 Ubiquinone synthesuzed by the body or is an essential nutrient.  I
>had thought that it was coded on mitichondrial DNA and synthesized for the
>mitochondrial electron transport system.  Now some people write that an
>intake of Q10 is essential.  Who know out there?



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docclipper@aol.com (DocCLIPPER) wrote:

>I have been doing alot of reading on the subject and now I am confused.  
>Is Q10 Ubiquinone synthesuzed by the body or is an essential nutrient.  I
>had thought that it was coded on mitichondrial DNA and synthesized for the
>mitochondrial electron transport system.  Now some people write that an
>intake of Q10 is essential.  Who know out there?
q-10 is one of several ubiquitous (thus the name) benzoquinones that
occur in many foodstuffs. A modified ubiquinone is sold as idibenone,
intended as a nootropic,
My feeling is you can get these compounds if you eat real good, but no
doubt there are conditions (notably cardioirregularities) where
getting more in you is efficacious, kind of like vit. C or vit B
complex. Sure can't hurt (IMHO)....been doing one or two 45 mg caps
myself  - I'm still alive!


From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jan 19 22:00:00 1996
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From: bgold@itsa.ucsf.edu (Bert Gold)
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Subject: Anti-ageing effects of kinetin
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Ernst Hadorn, the great German drosophila geneticist, reported
fifty years ago on the remarkable effects of kinetin in driving
"furious" mitosis.  Have you truly done anything different than
he, or is this another sample of the proverbial, 'nothing new under
the sun'?

Bert Gold, Ph.D.
University of California, San Francisco
School of Medicine


From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jan 19 22:00:00 1996
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My name is Sarah Holmes and I am a doctoral candidate at the School of
Family Studies at the University of Connecticut, specializing gerontology.
I have been researching mother-daughter caregiving relationships for the past 3
years.
      I am writing to request help in finding adult caregiving daughters to fill
out my anonoymous 30 minute quesionnaire for my dissertation.  I am looking for
women who help their mother at least once a month, are between 40-65 years old,
and live within a 100 mile radious but not with their mother.  Their
mother needs to be free of moderat to severe cognitive dementia and be
unmarried (widowed, divorced, single).  If you, or anyone you know, would
be willing to complete my questionnaire, please e-mail me at sholmes@
uconnvm.uconn.edu or call me at 860-486-1116.  The focus of my study is
understanding how the mother-daughter relationships influences the daughter's
level of role strain.  I appreciate all you help in finding women for my study!
Sincerely, Sarah Holmes

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jan 19 22:00:00 1996
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From: dhealth@gate.net (diane hein)
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Does anyone know what nutritional supplements or
medications are used to support MITOCHONDRIAL function?
If you have doses, please give!

I know COQ10 is one..at 30 mg. to 200 mg....but any others?

Thank you.

D. Hein

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Subject: Reasons for rapid loss of strength (muscle cell death) in some people?
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1.  Does anyone know why a person might lose more than 1/2 pound
of muscle tissue per year after the age of 30 (this is
from Joyce Vedral, Ph.D. fitness trainer)?  She was on
the television program, "The Today Show" this week with
Marie Shriver.

   For example, would a deficiency of a certain amino acid
   or mineral or hormone cause more rapid loss of muscle
   cells leading to a more frail state that we see in
   some elderly persons?

2.  Does anyone know if there any specific known disease states
that are associated with this rapid loss of strength?

3.  And lastly, does anyone know of any researchers who might be working in 
this area?   (snail mail or email addresses or university researcher center 
addresses would be GREATLY APPRECIATED too!)

Thank you for any help you can give me!

D. Hein

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jan 19 22:00:00 1996
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From: dhealth@gate.net (diane hein)
Subject: Reasons for rapid loss of strength (muscle cell death) in some
    people?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 15:02:07

1.  Does anyone know why a person might lose more than 1/2 pound
of muscle tissue per year after the age of 30 (this is
from Joyce Vedral, Ph.D. fitness trainer)?  She was on
the television program, "The Today Show" this week with
Marie Shriver.

   For example, would a deficiency of a certain amino acid
   or mineral or hormone cause more rapid loss of muscle
   cells leading to a more frail state that we see in
   some elderly persons?

2.  Does anyone know if there any specific known disease states
that are associated with this rapid loss of strength?

3.  And lastly, does anyone know of any researchers who might be working in 
this area?   (snail mail or email addresses or university researcher center 
addresses would be GREATLY APPRECIATED too!)

Thank you for any help you can give me!

D. Hein
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     The following article is from;
         THE NEWS-TIMES, Morehead City-beaufort, N.C.
             Monday, Nov. 11, 1985.

   "LOCAL THEORIST BELIEVES MOVEMENT IS ESSENTIAL TO CELLULAR GROWTH, LIFE".

                               BY JOHN HACKNEY, News-Times Staff Writer.

      ALAN JACKSON, Morehead City, fancies himself as a backyard philosopher.
    He spends a lot of hours reading books, magazines and research papers
    trying to understand just why certain things are the way they are.

      Mr. Jackson's most recent research has yielded an astounding theory;
    that movement is as important as nourishment to human beings.  He came to
    that conclusion based on the behavior of magnetic bacteria.

      He also believes these bacteria may be responsible for cell division.

      "I think movement through the earth's magnetic field is as important as
    nutrition."

      MR. JACKSON, 32, left high school at the age of 17 to join the Marine
    Corp.  He spent four years at Cherry Point, during which time he earned
    general education development (G.E.D.) degree and took college preparatory
    courses in various fields.

      Since leaving Cherry Point, he has held jobs with Hatsel Electric Co.;
    with Conner Homes as an electrician; with Carteret Court Apartments, as
    maintenance supervisor; and at Sea Coast Refrigeration.  He has also taken
    several college courses at Carteret Technical College.

      MR. JACKSON believes the earth's magnetic field is generated by molten
    lava rotating in the earth's core.  The lava moves in the opposite
    direction of the earth itself, thus creating such a field.

      "If we go to other planets, and no molten lava is flowing under the
    surface to create a magnetic field, the chances of finding life as we 
    know it is slim."

      Without flux lines, the magnetic bacteria would have no guide to food.
    "we can't live without flux lines," he said.

      Based on his unguessable research, Mr. Jackson theorizes that magnetic
    bacteria in cells follow flux lines within the geomagnetic field to get
    iron, which is there source of nourishment.

      DR. RICHARD P. BLAKEMORE, a scientist at the University of New   
    Hampshire, has said that amorphous cells (cells without form) accumulate 
    a great deal of iron from outside cell walls to produce magnetic 
    particles.

      Mr. Jackson believes it is more then a coincidence that humans need iron
    supplement to exist.

      SCIENTISTS know that bacteria collect and store iron, but they have yet
    to discover how.  Mr. Jackson thinks magnetic bacteria swim inside
    individual cells within the body to get iron, possibly from the exterior
    walls of the cell nucleus or from the outer walls of the cell itself.

      He contends the bacteria move within the cell according to the body's
    orientation to magnetic flux lines.  It has been shown that magnetic
    bacteria in the northern hemisphere migrate along flex lines in a
    northerly fashion, while magnetic bacteria in the southern hemisphere
    move south

      THE NUMBERS of north-seeking and south-seeking magnetic bacteria at
    the equator have been proven equal, indicating the effect of flux lines
    on bacteria.

      Dr. Blakemore and Dr. Richard B. Frankel of the Massachusetts Institute
    of Technology wrote that "magnetotactic bacteria are bottom-dwelling
    organisms that are either anaerobic (capable of living only in the absence
    of oxygen) or microaerophilic (surviving best in environments with little
    oxygen)."

      Therefore, they theorize, these bacteria would have a tendency to
    migrate downward, depending on their location, because "it would help
    them to avoid toxic effects of the greater concentration of oxygen in
    surface water."

      Mr. Jackson believes all people are essentially addicted to movement.
    An april 1979 article in Omni magazine cited the deterioration of
    astronauts' bones after periods of inactivity or weightlessness.

      THIS DETERIORATION of bones, called osteoporosis, is thought by most
    to be associated with lack of gravitational forces in space.

      Mr. Jackson thinks it is caused by the body having almost no
    orientation to the earth's magnetic field (or to north and south poles).
    Wiring within the spaceship may create some magnetism, but no definite
    poles, from which bacteria can orient themselves.

      WITHOUT bodily movement, magnetic bacteria cannot move in the cell
    along magnetic flux lines.  Mr. Jackson said that was the reason chicken
    eggs, if not moved after being laid, would deteriorate.  Without
    movement, the bacteria cannot constantly reorient themselves and move, 
    and are left in a mass on one side of the cell.

      It is the movement of those bacteria that is important to cellular
    growth.  He said cells were important to both tissues and bone growth
    in the body, thus accounting for the deterioration of bones found in
    astronauts.

      HE THINKS further experiments might show that astronauts have some
    deterioration of all tissues.

      Mr. Jackson said all people, young and old, are indirectly affected
    by magnetic bacteria. He thinks indians used to carry their papooses
    (babies) on their backs to keep them moving and thus indirectly helping
    the body grow.

      HE ALSO believes crib death of babies is caused from lack of movement.
    He said babies do not have the muscle coordination necessary to move
    themselves when first born.  If the are not moved, the magnetic bacteria
    will be essentially immobile and not be able to set many body function in
    motion

      MR. JACKSON also believes lack of movement may be the reason bones
    and other tissues begin to fade as people get older and inactive.  The
    less movement, the less the body will grow.

      He added that one experiment exemplified how magnetic bacteria could be
    degaussed (or rendered neutral in magnetism) through the application of
    heat. He has seized on this to theorize the reason for the basis of
    cellular life.

      MR. JACKSON believes that as human cells age , magnetic bacteria and
    other bacteria crowd the cells, creating excess friction or heat (thermal
    energy), which effectively demagnetizes magnetic bacteria for a moment,
    causing half the bacteria to lose their orientation to flux lines and
    head in the opposite direction.  This intense action may cause cells to
    split.

      He believes that scientists may have overlooked the fact that magnetic
    bacteria heading in opposite directions may cause DNA (dioxyribo nucleic
    acid) molecules in the cell nucleus to split.  DNA is associated with
    the transmission of genes in all living things. THE END.
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                 THE SINGLE MOST REASON, SO FAR.

           Lately, it has come to mind, that the attachment of a
         magnet to the egg of a bird, should represent the inability
         to move about, or be moved about in relation to a external
         magnetic field.  The constant field relationship would cause
         the immobility, within the cell, of any magnetically driven
         movement, weather it be that of life form or not.  This lack
         of movement should reduce the dynamic production of electricity,
         which would prevent the normal cell growth within the egg.

           Such an act, as described, above, should be seen as the same
         as not turning, or moving a egg after it has been laid.  And I
         believe that by seeing the egg as a cell, or group of cells can
         point out the importance of our movement.

           Our movement seems best when we turn 180, as to that of our
         last heading or bearing, with respect to a compass, and to do
         so with set frequency within a set time frame.

           The fact that the earth's magnetic field is moving around us,
         and that this movement is not always as much, as at other times,
         needs to be taken into account when the movement, within a
         magnetic field, of different cell types is being assessed.

               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


      Introducing "MAGNETRITION"; a term describing the process by which

     magnetism is utilized boilogically.  Awaiting mankind's acceptance,

     the study of magnetrition offers man a healthier and longer life.

     This new knowledge concerning mans' magnetritional needs, when

     utilized, will represent a maturization milestone in the history of

     mankind.

       The assessment of research presents these facts;

     l.  Magnetic bacteria use the properties of a magnetic field in order

         to form a chain of magnetite within its' body, from the iron it

         absorbs.

     2.  Magnetic bacteria use the properties of a magnetic field in order

         to migrate magneticly.

     3.  Magnetic bacteria live and die within the cells of our body.

     4.  Magnetic bacteria not having its' needs met, as it attempts its'

         functions within our cells, leads to the deterioration of body 

         tissues.

     5.  Astronauts are now recognized as suffering from magnetic deficiency

         syndrome, brought about by the needs of magnetic bacteria, (within

         their cells), not being met while outside the earth's magnetic field.

     6.  A prolonged state of inactivity of magnetic bacteria within cells,

         such as when a bird's egg is not turned, or an infant is not carried,

         leads to energy levels too low to maintain life.

     7.  Periodic exposure to the magnetic field produced by A/C voltage

         causes poorly formed nuclear envelopes, within cells.

     8.  Through the proper use of magnetic fields, man may now achieve a

         higher degree of wellbeing, and travel farther through both time

         and space.


                                       At your service,
                                       Alan E. Jackson
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From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Sun Jan 21 22:00:00 1996
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From: jorgens@inet.uni-c.dk (Jan Jorgensen)
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Dear Sirs


We at TV 2 Denmark (national television) are currently preparing a series 
of documentaries on ageing. In this process we have been offered a French 
tv-production called "Doctor Beaulieu's pills".
From the French company we have in this initially phase we have received 
the following informations from the company:

"Etienne Emile Beaulieu is a doctor, a researcher and a hormone 
specialist. He was awarded the Lasker prize - the American equivalent of 
the Nobel medical prize - for his discovery in 1988 of RU 486, the 
abortive pill.
Today, in his laboratories at the Hopital Bicetre in Paris, he is putting 
the finishing touches to another pill, the anti-ageing one.
It is called DHEA, initials which designates a sulphate: 
dehydroepiandrosterone. It seems to be the amount of DHEA in our body 
that ages it. Keeping up the level of the substance would slow down the 
ageing process and the aches and pains that go with it.
This is no dream that this painstaking scientist is promising, but a 
reality."

We are now looking other research-centers/scientist, who can confirm this 
information - or have taken part in the testing.
Pls reply to jorgens@inet.uni-c.dk

yours
jan jorgensen
executive producer
tv 2 Denmark


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Subject: Re: Psyllium Dangers?
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texasdaddy@aol.com (TexasDaddy) wrote:

>The previous correspondent wrote:

>---Best to generously mix psylium with water, stir well, 
>---and leave it in the refrigerator overnight for the water 
>---to soak in before use

>THE ABOVE  ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT.

Better do an objective in vitro study, before 
making armchair conclusions.

>The  idea of using psylium is to get it to expand INSIDE your gut.  It
>should be mixed with water and GULPED DOWN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.  It
>begins to expand almost immediately.

Yeah, as if your gut were in need of roto-rooting.
Sounds like "use sauna to melt body fat" type of
logic.

Rich imagination, but unsupported by in vitro studies.  
Sure it expands, and draws water to expand, but the
expansion does not end until hours later. Meantime,
if insufficient water was provided, gut dehydration or 
constipation might result.

>The dose of psyllium is individualized.  You have to find out how much is
>the right dose for you.

You can take as much of the fully pre-hydrated 
psyllium as you want.  The "right" dose is 
nonsense, and is a problem only when you "wash it
down quickly" with insufficient water.
  
>You might want to take it one to three times a
>day to start and to note the effect, e.g. on frequency and quantity of
>stool.  

>Responses to metamucul (psyllium) are highly individual.  The dose and
>frequency that leads to relief for one person may cause constipation for
>another.

See what I mean.  See above.  Your approach
will more likely than not, "cause constipation".

>I can't imagine trying to swallow psyllium that has hardened over night in
>the refrigerator.  YUCKO!

Not very imaginative when it is illogical
and not based on experimentation.  "Hardened"?
I can see that in your bowels, and those
of unfortunate folks following your armchair 
advice that was based on imagination, not fact
nor experimentation.  Fully hydrated psyllium 
is never "hardened" -- it is very **SOFT**.

You remind one of the medieval Church, trying
to burn Galileo on the stake.  Some humility
as shown by objective experimentation and
observation is warranted, before one tries
to attack others based on pure "imagination".
Life is often more complex than the armchair
dreamers would like to believe or admit.







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Jack_Challem@ortel.org (Jack Challem) wrote:

>Gisela Hoschek,hoschek@JEEVES.UCSD.EDU writes:
><<This month's Scientific American has an interesting article about aging
>where Ubiqinone plays a prominent role. It shows that things are much more
>complicated and not yet understood than you might think.>>

>The SA article is interesting, but things are better understood than you
>might think. The heart of Peter Mitchell's 1978 Nobel prize in chemistry was
>related to CoQ10 (uniquinone). I mentioned this quaint fact to my FDA
>contact, and his response was "If that's the case, we might have to
>reevaluate our position on CoQ10."
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

TO BAN ITS GENERAL USE BY THE PUBLIC?

>Jack Challem
>Editor & Publisher
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Katherine Tsaioun <TSAIOUN_VK@MINT.HNRC.TUFTS.EDU> wrote:

>Ubiquinone (Q10) is a coenzyme in electrone shuttle operations in the 
>mitochondria, you are right. And you are right again: it is synthesized 
>in the body. In fact, its name comes from the discovery that Q10 is 
>ubiquitous in the system. Hence, by definition, it is NOT an essential 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>nutrient, or vitamin for humans. People who are trying to prove that it 
>is a vitamin are wrong (I will not go into my suppositions as to their 
>reasons and motivations...).

Likewise, H2O is ubiquitous in the system, but it is
quite essential, and doesn't hurt to drink a bit more.

>Katherine Tsaioun

>USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging 
>at Tufts University

>docclipper@aol.com (DocCLIPPER) wrote:
>>I have been doing alot of reading on the subject and now I am confused.  
>>Is Q10 Ubiquinone synthesuzed by the body or is an essential nutrient.  I
>>had thought that it was coded on mitichondrial DNA and synthesized for the
>>mitochondrial electron transport system.  Now some people write that an
>>intake of Q10 is essential.  Who know out there?





From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jan 23 22:00:00 1996
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> boliver@Direct.CA (Bill Oliver) wrote:

> Best to generously mix psylium with water, stir well,
> and leave it in the refrigerator overnight for the water
> to soak in before use

There are a lot of sick/warped people out there!  I cannot
think of anything more vile than psyllium jello.  Best to
mix it with OJ and chug it.

-Bruce
-- 
Bruce Bowen			Take only meat and hide, leave only guts
bbowen@megatest.com		"Just say F.O."


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Subject: Re: Q10 Vitamin?
Date: 24 Jan 1996 03:33:34 GMT
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>Gisela Hoschek,hoschek@JEEVES.UCSD.EDU writes:
><<This month's Scientific American has an interesting article about aging
>where Ubiqinone plays a prominent role. It shows that things are much more
>complicated and not yet understood than you might think.>>

Jack_Challem@ortel.org (Jack Challem) wrote:
>The SA article is interesting, but things are better understood than you
>might think. The heart of Peter Mitchell's 1978 Nobel prize in chemistry was
>related to CoQ10 (uniquinone). I mentioned this quaint fact to my FDA
>contact, and his response was "If that's the case, we might have to
>reevaluate our position on CoQ10."
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

sender@forecasts.com wrote:
>TO BAN ITS GENERAL USE BY THE PUBLIC?

Just the opposite, I think..that maybe they ought to give CoQ10 a little more
credence. Doesn't really matter, though...he's relatively low level in the
FDA and far from the Washington powers.



Jack Challem
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From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Thu Jan 25 22:00:00 1996
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From: H.O.van.den.Berg@Inter.NL.net
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Subject: Jo still out there ?
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Wonder if he's still out there. Thought the book 
was fine & wonder how they age...


Cheers,

Harrie


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I wrote:
>
> Wonder if he's still out there.. 
> 
> 
Oops. That should be 'she'. Sorry.

Harrie

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Sun Jan 28 22:00:00 1996
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From: comcul@montreal.com (Blaine Leckett)
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Subject: Press Release: A new Gel Imaging software package
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:14:30 GMT
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Press Release: A new Gel Imaging software package

Release: 1-MARCH-1996

PRESS RELEASE

Contact:

	Blaine Leckett, Ph.D.
	QuantaVision CANADA
	Tel/Fax: (514) 695-2195
	comcul@montreal.com


QuantaVision soon to release MATRIX: a new Gel Imaging software
package for Microsoft Windows (3.1x and Win95).

MONTREAL, QUEBEC - QUANTAVISION has announced the final release of
MATRIX: a new Gel Imaging software package designed to locate and
quantitate DNA/protein bands from gel images. Over a year in
development, the program was designed to provide research scientists
with a new Windows-based tool that exceeds the features of present-day
DOS-based programs.
 
MATRIX contains tools for image enhancement, molecular weight
determination, and  quantitation. For image enhancement, MATRIX
provides basic tools to crop, rotate (as little as 1° increments),
invert, magnify, sharpen and soften an image. Images can also be
adjusted using brightness/contrast controls or by a histogram for
optimal conditions.

MATRIX automatically detects bands for lane analysis and contains an
internal listing of popular DNA/protein markers for molecular weight
calibration and determination. Additional markers can be added and
existing ones can be modified.

MATRIX provides two methods of DNA/protein band determination. (1) A
qualitative approach for quickly assessing relative intensities
between bands on the gel image and (2) a quantitative approach
involving lane analysis. MATRIX contains a chart mode to plot image
data and analysis peaks from lane analysis.  

MATRIX can change peak sensitivity, add/remove peaks, adjust peak
limits, and provide different methods of background subtraction.
Multiple lanes can be plotted for comparison, printed, and exported to
other applications. MATRIX provides a special spreadsheet for
quantitative band analysis. The spreadsheet automatically calculates
the quantity contained in each band and loaded for each sample.

Although pricing for MATRIX has not yet been determined, the package
is expected to be around $1,500 (USD). It is the first Windows-based
package to offer a wide range a features at this price. MATRIX will be
distributed through BioCan Scientific (biocan@vir.com)



###


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From: Jorge Braz <qjpcbraz@cc.fc.ul.pt>
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Subject: DNA Base lesions
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:22:13 +0100
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	Can anybody tell me where I can find any informations about rate 
constants, mechanisms, product analysis or anything at all about DNA base 
lesions by recative oxygen species?

		Thanks in advance, Jorge Braz

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Wed Jan 31 22:00:00 1996
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From: Jim Cummins <cummins@possum.murdoch.edu.au>
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Subject: Re: DNA Base lesions
Date: 1 Feb 1996 08:02:32 GMT
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Jorge Braz <qjpcbraz@cc.fc.ul.pt> wrote:
>	Can anybody tell me where I can find any informations about rate 
>constants, mechanisms, product analysis or anything at all about DNA base 
>lesions by recative oxygen species?
>
>		Thanks in advance, Jorge Braz
Oxidative damage is reported at c.10^5 hits/cell/day in the rat and c 10^4 hits/cell/day in the human.

Fraga et al PNAS USA 87: 4533-4536. 1990 
Cathgart et al PNAS USA 81: 5633-5637 1984

See also Fraga et al PNAS USA 88: 11003-11006, 1991


Jim Cummins, Associate Professor in Veterinary Anatomy, 
Murdoch University, Western Australia 6150.  
TEL +61-9-360 2668 FAX +61-9-310 4144
<cummins@possum.murdoch.edu.au>



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From: yo_doc@usa.pipeline.com(Richard A. Lockshin)
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Subject: NYC Area Cell Death Club Meeting
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NYC Area Cell Death Club 
Next meeting:  Wednesday, February 7, 1996  
6:00-6:30 PM Pizza 6:30-8:00 PM Talks and discussion 
Rockefeller University, 1230 York Ave., Weiss Research Bldg Room 301 
Free Parking after 5PM at 66th St. & York Ave (Please 
carpool as parking space is limited) 
 
Speakers:  FEBRUARY 7 
1.  Harleen Singh Ahuja, Queens College of CUNY 
CELL DEATH IN LIMB DEVELOPMENT 
 
2.  Richard Lang, NYU Medical Center 
APOPTOSIS IN DEVELOPMENTALLY PROGRAMMED CAPILLARY REGRESSION 
 
To help plan for pizza call lab of Dr. Zahra Zakeri,  
718:  997-3429 and let them know the number coming for pizza,  
talk, and if you need parking.  Please RSVP by Mon, December 4, 1995. 
Otherwise email to me. 
 
Organizers:  Zahra Zakeri, Fax 718:  997-3445 Phone 718:  997-3417 
Raymond Birge:  Fax 212 327-7943; Phone 212: 327-7412 
-- 
 
Richard A. Lockshin 
[also lockshin@sjumusic.stjohns.edu]

From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Wed Jan 31 22:00:00 1996
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grunberger & singer's text remains a classic in the field.
kochctov & budovski - the bible. we've written some too.
best, jj steinberg, albert einstein college of medicine

On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Jorge Braz wrote:

> 	Can anybody tell me where I can find any informations about rate 
> constants, mechanisms, product analysis or anything at all about DNA base 
> lesions by recative oxygen species?
> 
> 		Thanks in advance, Jorge Braz
> 
> 

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From: skherbe@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Stephen Herbert)
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[ Article crossposted from sci.bio.botany ]
[ Author was Stephen Herbert ]
[ Posted on 1 Feb 1996 18:11:38 GMT ]

	The Department of Biological Sciences at the University of Idaho 
has openings in its graduate program. p      graduate program.
  Assistantships are available 
for qualified applicants.  Further information is available at 
http://www.uidaho.edu/letters_and_science/biosc/.  Inquiries may be 
directed to skherbe@uidaho.edu or jmonroe@uidaho.edu.  Phone is 208 
885-6280.  

