From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jun 02 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser Date: 3 Jun 1997 02:00:08 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 239 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199706030900.CAA14462@net.bio.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net (LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95) This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up the *most frequently*. The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/. If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet information searches or answer scientific questions. Please post those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. Contents: -------- 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! ------------------------------ BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our Web site at http://www.bio.net/. We need just a few minutes of your time to help us serve you. You can do two important things which will take very little time for you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you. First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the archives. You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as described in item #1 below. Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term. Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass this message on to your marketing or marketing communications department or other appropriate group. Please ask them to help support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are interested, they can then contact us for further information at our tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net. 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. -------------------------------------------------------- As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net. One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured properly to send e-mail. Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS index. The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address database described in another item further below. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. ------------------------------------------------------- BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups), mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/. The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net). Unfortunately it is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of newsgroups and mailing lists. These attempts to grab free advertising are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net terminology. USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the mailing lists. However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses and hit these too, so neither medium is immune. What should you do personally if you get junk mail? --------------------------------------------------- Just delete it and move on without reading it further. Filing a protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from. Unless you really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing. What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups? ---------------------------------------------------- The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup. If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape. Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists completely. Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the time to review each message before it goes out. We have set up software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed. This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass it on, say about 1 min. per message. Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible for their newsgroup. The discussions leaders and their e-mail addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. If a newsgroup is being hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group. Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your complaint. 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Sincerely, Dave Kristofferson BIOSCI/bionet Manager biosci-help@net.bio.net From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jun 02 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!ZOO.UVM.EDU!jnachbur From: jnachbur@ZOO.UVM.EDU (Jennifer Nachbur) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Nutrient & Energy Metabolism in the Elderly Symposium Date: 3 Jun 1997 11:47:09 -0700 Organization: The University of Vermont Lines: 37 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <3394919C.666E@zoo.uvm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net The University of Vermont is presenting a symposium entitled "Nutrient and Energy Metabolism in the Elderly: Basic Mechanisms to Integrative Physiology" on September 15 - 16, 1997 at the Sheraton Hotel & Conference Center in Burlington, Vermont. This symposium, which is co-sponsored by the National Institute on Aging and the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, features keynote presentations by the following speakers: - JORGE CALLES-ESCANDON, MD, Associate Professor of Medicine, The University of Vermont College of Medicine; Director, Fletcher Allen Health Care Weight Management Clinic; Burlington, VT - WILLIAM EVANS, PHD, Director of the Nutrition, Metabolism and Exercise Unite and Professor of Geriatrics, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, Little Rock, AR - K. SREEKUMARAN NAIR, MD, PHD, Professor of Medicine, Mayon Medical School, Rochester, MN - ERIC T. POEHLMAN, PHD, Professor of Medicine, Physiology and Nutritional Sciences, The University of Vermont College of Medicine, Burlington, VT - SUSAN ROBERTS, PHD, Associate Professor of Nutrition and Psychiatry and Chief of Energy Metabolism Laboratory, Jean Mayer USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging, Tufts University, Medford, MA - BARBARA ROLLS, PHD, Professor of Nutritional Sciences and Guthrie Chair in Nutrition, The Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA - RICHARD WEINDRUCH, PHD, Professor, Department of Medicine (Section of Geriatrics and Gerontology), The University of Wisconsin-Madison; Director, Aging Research Group, Wisconsin Regional Primate Center; Madison, WI For more information or to request a brochure, please call 800-639-3188 or 802-656-2088 or send an e-mail to mbaggs@zoo.uvm.edu Posted by: Jennifer Nachbur Marketing Specialist The University of Vermont Division of Continuing Education From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Wed Jun 04 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!194.119.128.129!news.u-net.com!not-for-mail From: scott@aspex.u-net.com (c scott) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: MELATONIN Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 21:49:22 GMT Organization: U-NET Ltd Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5n7c4j$7v0$1@despair.u-net.com> Reply-To: scott@aspex.u-net.com NNTP-Posting-Host: p46.ascend3.is2.u-net.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 can anyone give me some information on melatonin,where is it obtained from,I know it is the pineal gland ,but which plants etcwould it be obtained from,and is it's benefits as good, From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Wed Jun 04 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!comp.vuw.ac.nz!news.hn.netlink.co.nz!celebrian.otago.ac.nz!sanger.otago.ac.nz!sdavies From: Stefan Davies Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Re: MELATONIN Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:37:30 +1200 Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, NZ Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <5n7c4j$7v0$1@despair.u-net.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sanger.otago.ac.nz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5n7c4j$7v0$1@despair.u-net.com> On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, c scott wrote: > can anyone give me some information on melatonin,where is it > obtained from,I know it is the pineal gland ,but which plants etcwould > it be obtained from,and is it's benefits as good, Depending on which country you come from, you should be able to get melatonin at any pharmacy or "natural health" shops. In New Zealand at least, it is unregulated at present, despite being a hormone, and I think it may be the same situation in the USA. As to its benefits however.... apart from some poularist books claiming that extra doses of melatonin can cure everything from ageing to cancer, i wouldn't be so sure. There are few conclusive studies out there in reputable scientific journals at the moment, and most is just unsubstantiated hype. Rather than base anything on a book or media coverage, if you're really serious I suggest a lit. search for reviews on Medline or Current Contents. 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TO LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR EXCITING PROGRAM AND THE ASSOCIATED REQUIRMENTS CALL TOLL FREE ******************** 1-888-811-8317 *********************** From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Sun Jun 08 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!news.Stanford.EDU!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!192.220.251.22!netnews.nwnet.net!news-hub.interserv.net!news.interserv.com!news From: "James Howard" Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: More Support for Howard Theory of Breast Cancer Date: 7 Jun 1997 15:52:05 GMT Organization: InterServ News Service Lines: 60 Message-ID: <01bc735a$abab1c60$0c89aec7@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: ad10-012.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 In the past, I have posted my theory of cancer, at this newsgroup, and applied it to cancer of the breast. I will give a short abstract at this time. Basically, my principle hypothesis is that DHEA is necessary for transcription and replication of DNA, in all tissues. I suggest that oncogenes may be triggered by reductions in the hormone, dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA). (See my earlier posts for explanation.) DHEA naturally starts to decline sometime after age 20, to reach very low levels in the aged. It is the low levels of DHEA, I suggest, that trigger oncogene function in the elderly. Another part of my explanation of cancer suggests that, once cancers are initiated, cancer depend on DHEA for growth. (I suggest all tissues must have DHEA for DNA function, so must cancer.) If you put these two phenomena together, you have an explanation for why cancers appear more in the elderly, but grow much less rapidly. In my earlier posts, I cited reports that demonstrated that breast tumor tissues concentrate DHEA more than non-tumor tissues. This means that the cancer is absorbing DHEA more rapidly than noncancerous tissue. DNA of cancers is more "juvenile-like," so its DNA is rapidly dividing. DNA that is rapidly dividing, according to my theory, must have more DHEA than differentiated tissues. Now carefully follow the following to avoid some confusion. I have suggested (explained in my earlier posts) that reduced DHEA triggers oncogenes. When these genes are triggered, they must have more DHEA to survive. I suggest they must stimulate an increase in DHEA in order to continue. In the following quotation, note that in postmenopausal women, DHEA, and its primary blood source, DHEAS, are increased. "Relationship of serum dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), DHEA sulfate, and 5-androstene-3 beta, 17 beta-diol to risk of breast cancer in postmenopausal women," Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev 6 (3): 177-181 (Mar 1997) Dorgan JF, Stanczyk FZ, Longcope C, Stephenson HE Jr, Chang L, Miller R, Franz C, Falk RT, Kahle L, Division of Cancer Prevention and Control, National Cancer Institute, NIH, Bethesda, Maryland 20892-7326, USA. "Laboratory evidence suggests a role for dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) and its metabolite 5-androstene-3 beta, 17 beta-diol (ADIOL) in mammary tumor growth. Serum DHEA also has been related to breast cancer in postmenopausal women, but the relationship of ADIOL to risk has not been evaluated previously. To assess the relationship of serum DHEA, its sulfate (DHEAS), and ADIOL with breast cancer risk in postmenopausal women, we conducted a prospective nested case-control study using serum from the Columbia, MO Breast Cancer Serum Bank. Cases included 71 healthy postmenopausal volunteers not taking replacement estrogens when they donated blood and who were diagnosed with breast cancer up to 10 years later (median, 2.9 years). Two randomly selected controls, who also were postmenopausal and not taking estrogens, were matched to each case on exact age, date (+/-1 year), and time (+/-2 h) of blood collection. Significant (trend P = 0.02) gradients of increasing risk of breast cancer were observed for increasing concentrations of DHEA and ADIOL, and women whose serum levels of these hormones were in the highest quartiles were at a significantly elevated risk compared to those in the lowest; their risk ratios were 4.0 [95% confidence interval (CI), 1.3-11.8) and 3.0 (95% CI, 1.0-8.6), respectively. The relationship of DHEAS to breast cancer was less consistent, but women whose serum DHEAS concentration was in the highest quartile also exhibited a significantly elevated risk ratio of 2.8 (95% CI, 1.1-7.4). Results of this prospective study support a role for the adrenal androgens, DHEA, DHEAS, and ADIOL, in the etiology of breast cancer." From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jun 10 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!gavrilov.genebee.msu.su!leonid From: leonid@gavrilov.genebee.msu.su ("Leonid A.Gavrilov") Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Forthcoming seminars in USA Date: 10 Jun 1997 23:56:17 -0700 Organization: A.N.Belozersky Institute Lines: 45 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Dear Colleagues, On June 6,1997, the SCIENCE has published an article: "THE PERILS OF LATE-AGE PROCREATION" about our most recent scientific discovery (SCIENCE,vol.276,p.1503). We expect to come in USA this July and we would be happy to discuss our new results with anybody who is interested. We already have 3 months experience of giving a seminars in USA (Baltimore, Chicago, Madison, Philadelphia,Seattle,Ventura,Boulder Creek,Athens,Ames etc.). Additional information about our most recent research work could be found in: 1. Gavrilov L.A., Gavrilova N.S. 1997. Parental age at conception and offspring longevity. Reviews in Clinical Gerontology [Cambridge University Press], v.7, No.1, pp.5-12. 2. Gavrilov L.A., Gavrilova N.S. et al. 1997. Mutation load and human longevity. Mutation Research [Elsevier Press], vol.375, No.2, pp.61-62. Please feel free to contact us by E-mail if you are interested. Sincerely yours, Dr.Leonid A. Gavrilov, Ph.D. Dr. Natalia S.Gavrilova, Ph.D. Principal Research Scientist Senior Research Scientist From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Wed Jun 11 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.kornet.nm.kr!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet From: "Alexander Bankov" Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: re: ageing theory Date: 12 Jun 1997 22:09:16 GMT Organization: UUNet UK server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet UK) Lines: 6 Message-ID: <01bc7718$3c52a1a0$39f582c1@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: af057.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Dear Dr. Gavrilov, Would you please leave your e-mail address - I'd like to pass to you some information/proposal on the request of one of the Russian colleagues, èÁÎÖÉÎÁ â.í. (Chanzhin B.M.). Or contact me in the next few days on xmb65.dial.pipex.com óÐÁÓÉÂÏ. Yours Dr. Bankov From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Thu Jun 12 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers!gatech!news.akorn.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!202.243.48.20!news.gol.com!user From: joels@gol.com (Joel Sassone) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension Subject: Milk. Does it do a body bad? Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 11:38:31 +0900 Organization: Himself Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tc-1-119.kawasaki.gol.com Hello, I've been wondering what, if any, consensus with regards to the merits and demerits of dairy products, especially including yoghurt, skim milk, and cheese, for someone attempting to live a long a healthy life. Anyone have any comments? For instance, a number of longevity and health-related books I've read advise that yoghurt with live cutures is good for the intestines, but I've also read books that say milk proteins are so difficult for humans to digest, even yoghurt's benefits are outweight by the problems it causes... Joel From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Thu Jun 12 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!194.119.128.129!news.u-net.com!not-for-mail From: scott@aspex.u-net.com (c scott) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: melatonin Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 23:43:07 GMT Organization: U-NET Ltd Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5nq1bc$oib$1@despair.u-net.com> Reply-To: scott@aspex.u-net.com NNTP-Posting-Host: p28.ascend3.is2.u-net.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 why is it not possible,to obtain Melatonin in the U.K.does it have side effects? Everything I have read about it is positive,so,can anyone enlighten me,as to why it is unobtainable,or, am I mistaken,or perhaps,even better ,can anyone tell me where it could be obtained? much obliged. From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Thu Jun 12 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!posts.execpc.com!earth.execpc.com!not-for-mail From: rreid@earth.execpc.com (Rodney Reid) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension Subject: Re: Milk. Does it do a body bad? Followup-To: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension Date: 13 Jun 1997 18:24:23 -0500 Organization: Exec-PC Internet Lines: 93 Message-ID: <5nskr7$3l0$1@earth.execpc.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.execpc.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Joel, Coming from the Dairy State, I'll probably be executed for saying this, but some abstracts say Milk isn't so good in the long run. I have heard that it's not all good for the kidneys... Check out the studies at the end of this message; one shows how milk protein is BAD for aging rats, and another shows how it benefits young (growing) rats, but doesn't seem to matter with older rats. ...Rodney (not a nursing calf) --------------------------------- Dietary soybean protein compared with casein retards senescence in the senescence accelerated mouse. Authors: Umezawa M, Hosokawa M, Kohno A, Ishikawa S, Kitagawa K, Takeda T J Nutr 123 (11): 1905-1912 (Nov 1993) The effects of replacing dietary casein with soybean protein on mean life span, mean life span of the last one-tenth of a group, grading scores of senescence and deposition of senile amyloid were investigated in senescence accelerated mice (SAM-P/1) compared with a control strain (SAM-R/1). SAM-R/1 mice fed the soybean protein-containing diet had mean life spans of 618 +/- 42 d (males) and 578 +/- 62 d (females), 58% (males) and 44% (females) longer than those of corresponding casein fed mice (P < 0.01). Similarly, in SAM-P/1 mean life-spans were 265 +/- 16 d (males) and 307 +/- 23 d (females) in the soybean diet group, 27% (males) and 30% (females) longer than in the casein diet groups (P < 0.01). The mean life span of the last one-tenth of each group fed soybean protein was significantly longer than the corresponding group fed casein. In SAM-R/1 mice, pathological studies revealed that severe secondary amyloid deposition (amyloid A protein) in the kidneys, spleen, stomach and liver was significantly suppressed, in males only, by replacing casein with soybean protein (P < 0.01). The occurrence of contracted kidneys caused by the infiltration of amyloid A protein was suppressed in SAM-R/1 mice fed the soybean protein-containing diet (P < 0.05). The deposition of senile amyloid in SAM-P/1 mice with aging was retarded by replacing casein with soybean protein (P < 0.01). These results indicate that dietary protein source is important in modulating the advance of senescence in SAM mice. -------------------------------------------------------------- The effect of a vegetarian diet on protein and fat metabolism values in rats of various ages Authors: Krajcovicova-Kudlackova M, Ozdin L Vet Med (Praha) 38 (7): 413-425 (1993) Male len rats at the age of 30-140 days were administered a diet with an optimum content of nutrients in dependence on their age in which the source of proteins was this: milk casein (essential acid to nonessential acid ratio E/N = 0.79), soya (defatted and without inhibitors of digestive enzymes, E/N = 0.73), wheat gluten (E/N = 0.30), and their mixture (with one-third portions of each protein, E/N = 0.54). The dietary protein values were adjusted to optimum values according to the quality with respect to casein (without amino acid fortification). Protein utilization (net protein ratio NPR) was determined in weekly intervals, triacylglycerol and cholesterol concentrations in the blood serum were determined on the 70th and 140th day of age. A proteosynthesis rate was determined isotopically as L-/U-14C/-tyrosine incorporation in the protein fractions of liver and muscle in 12 hours after intraperitoneal application of the isotope in the rats in the period of rapid growth and in the adult rats on a casein--gluten diet. The isotopically determined values of tyrosine in the liver and muscles are significantly lower for the age of 70 days and gluten diet in comparison with the casein values. The proteosynthesis rate at the age of 140 days is identical. A direct relation was also found between protein utilization and the values of the amino acid score of limiting amino acids AS and the potential biological value of the diet BHp in growing rats at the age of 30-98 days (AS-K/Met + Cys/2/67, S/Met + Cys/2/63, G/Lys/28, mixture/Met + Cys/2/67; BHp-K 70.0; S 65.1; G 54.1; mixture 77.0; NPR/70 days/-K 2.00; S 1.48; G 1.22; mixture 2.07). In adult rats (from the age of 105 days) the utilization of the diet from vegetable sources is equalized with the utilization of the diet from animal sources, hence it does not depend on the aminogram quality. The results demonstrate the insufficiency of vegetable sources of food with respect to proteosynthesis and the content of limiting amino acids (decisive for the synthesis of peptide chains) in the period of the organism development. In adult rats the values of the aminograms of food vegetable sources are sufficiently high with respect to the lower rate of proteosynthesis (not for the growth but for the organism maintenance, tissue regeneration). Joel Sassone (joels@gol.com) wrote: : Hello, : I've been wondering what, if any, consensus with regards to the merits and : demerits of dairy products, especially including yoghurt, skim milk, and : cheese, for someone attempting to live a long a healthy life. Anyone have : any comments? From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jun 13 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!!user From: "Ken Nakai" Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension Subject: Re: Milk. Does it do a body bad? Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 11:08:42 -0700 Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5ns249$rb0@uni.library.ucla.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.142.241.23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail & News for Macintosh - 3.0 Yogurt does provide the intestines with culture. Whether or not it is necessary under normal circumstances, I don't know. You can't really go wrong. When you have an intestinal disease that cleans out your system, usually you are advised to eat yogurt (or other yogurt like curd with cultures). Milk proteins difficult to digest? I'm not sure. I do know that some people (including me) have difficulty processing milk products (I only have problems with straight milk) but usually that's the result of the sugar lactose. The usual solution would be moderation. Now, I do know that there is no way, directly at least, that milk products will make you live longer. The fat content will provide your body with the fat it needs for various reasons; the calcium can only do you good. If you want to live longer, try less stress, healthy diet (not a SlimFast kind of diet), and moderate exercise. kn From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jun 13 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!gavrilov.genebee.msu.su!leonid From: leonid@gavrilov.genebee.msu.su ("Leonid A.Gavrilov") Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Call to British Colleagues,SUNDAY TIMES,London,15 June issue Date: 14 Jun 1997 13:27:36 -0700 Organization: A.N.Belozersky Institute Lines: 46 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Dear British Colleagues, We have just received an information that today, on Sunday, June 15, 1997, the British newspaper: SUNDAY TIMES, London has published an article about our most recent scientific discovery that daugthers born to older fathers have shorter lifespan. ***** We would greatly appreciate any information about this article (title, page, reference, etc.) if possible! ******* In the case it is possible to fax the article in Moscow our fax numbers are: 7 [Russia] 095 [Moscow] 939-3181 or 939-0338 Please indicate on the cover sheet that the faxed message is for Dr.Gavrilov. ***THANKS A LOT IN ADVANCE!!!*** For those, who are interested: Additional information about our most recent research work could be found in: 1. SCIENCE,1997,v.276,No.5318,6 June Issue,p.1503. The Perils of Late-Age Procreation. 2. Gavrilov L.A., Gavrilova N.S. 1997. Parental age at conception and offspring longevity. Reviews in Clinical Gerontology [Cambridge University Press], v.7, No.1, pp.5-12. 3. Gavrilov L.A., Gavrilova N.S. et al. 1997. Mutation load and human longevity. Mutation Research [Elsevier Press], vol.375, No.2, pp.61-62. Once again, thank you in advance for your cooperation! Sincerely yours, Dr.Leonid A. Gavrilov, Ph.D. Dr. Natalia S.Gavrilova, Ph.D. Principal Research Scientist Senior Research Scientist From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jun 13 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news2.fibr.net!news1.fibr.net!news.fibr.net!news From: Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: http://www.planetfun.com/videosex.htm Date: 14 Jun 1997 05:49:05 GMT Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5ntbch$eb3@nimitz.fibr.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: port1-6.lconn.com http://www.planetfun.com/videosex.htm Adults Only From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Sat Jun 14 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!modem-0381.rns.tamu.edu!user From: jtd7471@geopsun.tamu.edu (Joe T Daniel) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension Subject: Re: Milk. Does it do a body bad? Date: 15 Jun 1997 05:36:40 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-0381.rns.tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jun 1997 05:36:40 GMT In article , joels@gol.com (Joel Sassone) wrote: > Hello, > > I've been wondering what, if any, consensus with regards to the merits and > demerits of dairy products, especially including yoghurt, skim milk, and > cheese, for someone attempting to live a long a healthy life. Anyone have > any comments? > > For instance, a number of longevity and health-related books I've read > advise that yoghurt with live cutures is good for the intestines, but I've > also read books that say milk proteins are so difficult for humans to > digest, even yoghurt's benefits are outweight by the problems it causes... > > Joel Joel, I love it but milk seems to aggravate the osterarthritis in my hands and wrists so I have pretty much given it up. On page 16 & 17 of her book "Beat PSORIASIS the natural way", ISBN 0-7225-2586-9, Sandra Gibbons blames it. Also, in "Enter The Zone", ISBN 0-06-039150-2, Barry Sears, Ph.D. on page 102 gives a good background and explanation of the problem. If you think to take a lactose digesting enzyme (health food store) with it the bad effects are reduced. The book by Barry Sears is worth the price. I would appreciate hearing about any good books others have found. Joe Daniel From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Sun Jun 15 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet From: hk05@dial.pipex.com Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension Subject: Re: Milk. Does it do a body bad? Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:36:33 GMT Organization: UUNet UK server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet UK) Lines: 20 Message-ID: <33a4ad9f.11257113@news.dial.pipex.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ae179.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 11:38:31 +0900, joels@gol.com (Joel Sassone) wrote: >I've been wondering what, if any, consensus with regards to the merits and >demerits of dairy products, especially including yoghurt, skim milk, and >cheese, for someone attempting to live a long a healthy life. Anyone have >any comments? > >For instance, a number of longevity and health-related books I've read >advise that yoghurt with live cutures is good for the intestines, but I've >also read books that say milk proteins are so difficult for humans to >digest, even yoghurt's benefits are outweight by the problems it causes... Try GOAT'S MILK. As I understand it the milk breaks up into small globules in the stomach and is much easier digested than cow's milk which sits in the stomoch as one great lump. Iain From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jun 16 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers!gatech!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!newsfeed2.aimnet.com!newsfeed1.aimnet.com!fsc.fujitsu.com!not-for-mail From: susanj@nms.fnc.fujitsu.com (Susan Johnson) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Longevity Magazine Date: 17 Jun 1997 00:09:20 GMT Organization: Fujitsu Software Corportation Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5o4kjg$7uf$1@news.fsc.fujitsu.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: intrepid.nms.fnc.fujitsu.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Is Longevity Magazine still in existence? If so, where? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Susan Johnson Email: susanj@fnc.fujitsu.com Configuration Management Engineer Tel: 408-764-9496 Fujitsu Network Communications Fax: 408-764-9365 5200 Patrick Henry Drive, Santa Clara, CA 95054 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jun 16 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!dse.com.au!graham.clarke From: graham.clarke@dse.com.au Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: MELATONIN Date: 16 Jun 1997 21:32:02 -0700 Organization: Dick Smith Electronics Lines: 20 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9706171208.0H2BN00@dse.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net scott@aspex.u-net.com (c scott) writes: Sc> why is it not possible,to obtain Melatonin in the U.K.does it have Sc> side effects? Everything I have read about it is positive,so,can Sc> anyone enlighten me,as to why it is unobtainable,or, am I mistaken,or Sc> perhaps,even better ,can anyone tell me where it could be obtained? Sc> much obliged. I heard that it's a (European?) government plot. Ban melatonin, thus stopping hordes of people from becoming centenarians, and saving the Govt pension funds from becoming severely bankrupted by 2020. I don't know if there's any truth in this, but no one seems to have any reasonable alternative suggestions. Perhaps it is true. You could try importing from Life Extension Foundation at lef@lef.org - but you may hit problems with your Customs & Excise when the package enters the UK. Or you could buy it on your travels to Switzerland, HK, or North America. Maybe other countries too. From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jun 16 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!delos.dra.hmg.gb!server1.netnews.ja.net!warwick!qmw!greenwich!usenet From: Peter J Lawrence Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Re: Call to British Colleagues,SUNDAY TIMES,London,15 June issue Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 11:11:11 +0100 Organization: School Of CMS, University Of Greenwich. Message-ID: <33A662BF.353@gre.ac.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: starbug.gre.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Lines: 4 The web address for the news article "Daughters of older fathers die younger" is :- http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/97/06/15/stinwenws02003.html?1092385 From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jun 17 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.apfel.de!univ-lyon1.fr!unice.fr!cnusc.fr!ciril.fr!univ-lille1.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!warm.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet From: hk05@dial.pipex.com Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Re: Call to British Colleagues,SUNDAY TIMES,London,15 June issue Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 08:35:53 GMT Organization: UUNet UK server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet UK) Lines: 33 Message-ID: <33a60b1f.17875179@news.dial.pipex.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: af096.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 On 14 Jun 1997 13:27:36 -0700, leonid@gavrilov.genebee.msu.su ("Leonid A.Gavrilov") wrote: > > >Dear British Colleagues, > > We have just received an information that today, on Sunday, >June 15, 1997, the British newspaper: > > SUNDAY TIMES, London > >has published an article about our most recent scientific >discovery that daugthers born to older fathers have shorter >lifespan. > >***** We would greatly appreciate any information about this >article (title, page, reference, etc.) if possible! ******* Hi, The Sunday Times has a web site on http://www.sundaytimes.com/ The LIFE EXTENSION FOUNDATION - http://www.lef.org - 800-841-5433 A non-profit membership organization dedicated to the extension of the healthy human lifespan through ground breaking research, innovative ideas and practical methods. LIFE EXTENSION MAGAZINE - Living Healthier - Reaching for Immortality The ULTIMATE source for new health and medical breakthoughs worldwide. From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Tue Jun 17 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: alfoth@mindspring.com (Al Foth) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Re: Longevity Magazine Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 13:57:58 GMT Organization: mindspring enterprises Lines: 28 Message-ID: <33a7e89e.1001164@news.mindspring.com> References: <5o4kjg$7uf$1@news.fsc.fujitsu.com> Reply-To: alfoth@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip247.barstow.ca.pub-ip.psi.net X-Server-Date: 18 Jun 1997 13:55:45 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 It closed up about a year or so ago. Subscribers were shifted over to another magazine without charge. I miss it. Al Foth susanj@nms.fnc.fujitsu.com (Susan Johnson) wrote: >Is Longevity Magazine still in existence? > >If so, where? > > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Susan Johnson Email: susanj@fnc.fujitsu.com >Configuration Management Engineer Tel: 408-764-9496 >Fujitsu Network Communications Fax: 408-764-9365 >5200 Patrick Henry Drive, >Santa Clara, CA 95054 >------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Wed Jun 18 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!news.mr.net!fedppp3.infolink.morris.mn.us!user From: bwinc@infolink.morris.mn.us Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Informational Health Release on Arthritis Date: 19 Jun 1997 16:47:38 GMT Organization: Institute for Nutritional Health Lines: 32 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.8.128.52 Arthritis (Informational Health Release) The term arthritis simply means inflammation of a joint. It is not a condition linked exclusively with aging. The most common and serious forms of arthritis are often found in young active adults. One million new patients develop arthritis each year. In America alone 250,000 children have arthritis along with forty percent of the population over age 65 have arthritis. According to the Journal of AMA, over 41 million Americans suffer from arthritis. Presently, arthritis is the most widespread crippling disability in the United States today with more families in this country being affected by arthritis than by any other illness. What is the answer? Organic Sulfur (MSM). Methylsulfonymethane (MSM) is the vital nutritional dietary source of sulfur that is found in our living tissues. It makes the cell permeable so the water flows freely through the cell. This removes the buildup of fluids and toxins which in turn decrease the pressure inside the cell so the cell can heal and individuals can be active without pain. One of the most effective means to get organic sulfur to the swollen and pain ridden cells is direct application on the skin with a lotion that contains MSM. "A skin lotion with a therapeutic quality of MSM allows the MSM to saturate the tissues directly and heal the body joints, skin and muscular skeletal system" says Dr. Mindell. MSM has also been documented in numerous clinical studies to give substantial and long lasting pain relief as reported in the New York Academy of Science. For additional educational information on MSM call (800)-525-7710. ******We appologize if this posting upsets or offends anyone in any way.***** From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Thu Jun 19 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!ruf.uni-freiburg.de!schecker From: schecker@ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Schecker) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: HELP! gender gap Date: 20 Jun 1997 01:57:56 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 11 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <33AA465F.38D1@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net I'm a biologie student and i have to write a work about "genotypic sex and longevity". i'm looking for actual informations or recent articles about this topic and the "gender gap" in general. Please contact me at my e-mail adress: scheckna@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Thanks a lot!! From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Fri Jun 20 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!news.Stanford.EDU!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!202.243.48.20!news.gol.com!user From: joels@gol.com (Joel Sassone) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,sci.life-extension Subject: Re: Milk. Does it do a body bad? Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 23:16:32 +0900 Organization: Himself Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <5nskr7$3l0$1@earth.execpc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tc-4-018.tokyo.gol.com In article <5nskr7$3l0$1@earth.execpc.com>, rreid@earth.execpc.com (Rodney Reid) wrote: >Check out the studies at the end of this message; one shows how milk >protein is BAD for aging rats, and another shows how it benefits young >(growing) rats, but doesn't seem to matter with older rats. Hmmm... Well, I think I can relate more closely to aging rats than with nursing calves, so maybe I'd better cut back... Thanks, Joel From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Sat Jun 21 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!hammer.uoregon.edu!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!blue.news.pipex.net!pipex!stns.news.pipex.net!warm.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet From: hk05@dial.pipex.com Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Re: MELATONIN Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 19:11:58 GMT Organization: UUNet UK server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet UK) Lines: 32 Message-ID: <33acbe30.22527908@news.dial.pipex.com> References: <9706171208.0H2BN00@dse.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ae004.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 On 16 Jun 1997 21:32:02 -0700, graham.clarke@dse.com.au wrote: >You could try importing Melatonin from Life Extension Foundation at >lef@lef.org - but you may hit problems with your Customs & Excise >when the package enters the UK. It seems to be OK to import it for personal use. I ordered a batch + DHEA and some multivits recently from the LEF which got through OK. However customs slapped on an additional £10 (ten pounds surcharge) when I picked it up at the postoffice. Customs also delay the delivery so that what used to come in 10 days from LEF now takes 4 weeks. I have recently ordered some more and expect that to come through in about a month. Melatonin with DHEA (not taken at same time!!!) is very good and I have noticed the effects on my system - particularly since I am a night-shift worker. I don't feel as screwed up by shift-work as I used to - good for my employers as I'm far more productive than I was before and mentally more focused. Iain The LIFE EXTENSION FOUNDATION - http://www.lef.org - 800-841-5433 A non-profit membership organization dedicated to improvement of the healthy human lifespan through ground breaking research, innovative ideas and practical methods. LIFE EXTENSION MAGAZINE - The source for new health and medical breakthoughs worldwide. From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Sun Jun 22 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers!gatech!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!calwebnntp!news.campus.mci.net!news.telis.org!n-f-m From: Dave/Debbie Rogers Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Science Fair Project: Geriatrics Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:00:32 -0800 Organization: Telis, TeleLearning InfoSource Lines: 16 Message-ID: <33AEE3E6.2ED1@mail.telis.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: s25-pm17.snwestsac.campus.mci.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) My name is Summer Rogers. I am seeking specific ideas and/or useful information for a Science Fair project in the field of Geriatrics. I am particularly interested in cellular aging and research for the benefit of uncovering the "secrets" of free radicals, mitochondria, and their relationships to cellular aging. I have availability to experimentation equipment through California State University Fresno, and am eager to participate in the discoveries of this newly popularized field of study. Having however, just been introduced to Gerontology, I am seeking the knowledge of others in hope of formulating a specific hypothesis and suggestions on how to proceed in proving such a hypothesis to be true or false. I would also appreciate any original ideas from which I could possibly expand on, to reach a hypothesis. I am readily willing to share any results I may obtain with those who assist me. Thank you. Senior Clovis High School Student, Summer Rogers From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jun 23 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: bioinquiry@aol.com (Bioinquiry) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Scholarships for Cell Culture Workshop Date: 24 Jun 1997 16:41:03 GMT Lines: 27 Message-ID: <19970624164100.MAA11876@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Scholarships for Cell Culture Workshop Several corporate sponsored academic scholarships are available for two Cell Culture Workshops to be held at the Biotechnology Training Institute, Bridgewater, New Jersey. The workshops, scheduled for July 22-25 and October 14-17, will cover aseptic technique, establishment of primary cell cultures, manipulation of cultured cells, cell cloning, validation and cell line maintenance, growth optimization, transfection techniques, cell staining, and protein/DNA/RNA harvesting methods. The Cell Culture Workshop schedule can be obtained via email at "bioinquiry@aol.com" or by contacting the Institute at 908-253-3444. Several academic scholarships have been established for faculty, fellows, post-doctorates, and graduate students. Each scholarship covers cost of tuition and room. Travel expenses may be reimbursed at the discretion of the corporate sponsor. Interested individuals need to apply for a scholarship by submitting a current CV and a one page letter which briefly explains how cell culture will have a positive impact on their research. The CV and letter should be FAXed to 908-575-1660 or mailed to: Biotechnology Training Institute Cell Culture Scholarships 672 Route 202-206 North Bridgewater, NJ 08807 For additional information, please contact the Biotechnology Training Institute at 908-253-3444. From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Wed Jun 25 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!newsfeeder.ust.hk!news.ust.hk!news From: Li Hoi Ming Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Re: Science Fair Project: Geriatrics Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 00:44:25 +0800 Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Lines: 31 Message-ID: <33B14AE9.2844@stu.ust.hk> References: <33AEE3E6.2ED1@mail.telis.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: anx6k7-p14.ust.hk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Dave/Debbie Rogers wrote: > > My name is Summer Rogers. I am seeking specific ideas and/or useful > information for a Science Fair project in the field of Geriatrics. I am > particularly interested in cellular aging and research for the benefit > of uncovering the "secrets" of free radicals, mitochondria, and their > relationships to cellular aging. > I have availability to experimentation equipment through California > State University Fresno, and am eager to participate in the discoveries > of this newly popularized field of study. Having however, just been > introduced to Gerontology, I am seeking the knowledge of others in hope > of formulating a specific hypothesis and suggestions on how to proceed > in proving such a hypothesis to be true or false. I would also > appreciate any original ideas from which I could possibly expand on, to > reach a hypothesis. I am readily willing to share any results I may > obtain with those who assist me. Thank you. > Senior Clovis High School Student, > Summer Rogers Hello, There is a lot anti-aging information on the Internet. Such as Aging Research Centre (ARC) (http://www.hookup.net/mall/aging/agesit59.html) Also, in my university ,Hong Kong University of Science & Technology(http://www.ust.hk/), Dr. Robert K. M. Ko is now having a research on antioxidants. For further details please go to (http://www.ust.hk/~webbich/profiles/robertko.html) or dial 001-852-23587298. Thank you. 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Date: 1 Jul 1997 20:41:49 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 2 Message-ID: <5pbq2d$4cg$1@usenet85.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.211.62.221 From owner-ageing@net.bio.net Mon Jun 30 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!inn From: schwarz@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing Subject: Mitochondria and ageing? Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 22:07:50 GMT Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany Lines: 20 Message-ID: <33b97f0e.11667277@news.uni-freiburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip108.home.uni-freiburg.de X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Where can I get information about ...the role of mitochondria in aging processes... (e. g. about the mitochondrial free radical theory of aging or other theories about mutations of mtDNA being the cause of cell aging)? Internet URLs on this topic would be great, but I'm also interested in magazines, books (English or German) etc. Thanks for any help!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hendrik Schwarz Student at the University of Freiburg (Germany) You can reach me via email to schwarz@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de or to schwarz@mail.uni-freiburg.de