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Subject: Msdos uploads to Simtel 20 during  april 1993
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>Subject: msdos uploads to SIMTEL20 during the month of April, 1993
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File PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>UPLOADS.APR                  Created: May 1, 1993

NOTE: This file is also available in comma-delimited format as SIM9304.IDX

           MSDOS FILES UPLOADED TO WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
                   during the month of April 1993

NOTE: Type B is Binary; Type A is ASCII

 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
Directory PD1:<MSDOS.4DOS>
4FILE2U9.ZIP  B   75070  930430  4DOS file management tool & description editor
EZ-BTM06.ZIP  B   51200  930427  4DOS BTM files: loaders/regular/libraries/help

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.ARCUTILS>
AC300.ZIP     B  103250  930430  Converts between compressed archive formats
ACZAR100.ZIP  B  332101  930412  Archive shell for ZIP,LZH,ARJ,PAK,ARC,ZOO,SCAN
AM92.ZIP      B  198718  930419  ArcMaster front-end/convrt for ARC/ARJ/LZH/ZIP
AT780E.ZIP    B  103706  930430  Archive shell for ARC/LZH/PAK/PKA/LBR/ZOO/ZIP

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.AUTOCAD>
AXO_10.ZIP    B   18487  930429  Oblique axonometry of DXF files ver. 10,11,12
HPGLPRL.ZIP   B    5168  930429  Perl scripts convert HPGL to AutoCAD DXF/SCR
VOLARE10.ZIP  B   18979  930429  Volume & area of DTM from DXF file w/3DFACES

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.BASIC>
BLTQ13.ZIP    B  212707  930423  BULLET database toolkit v1.03 for BASIC

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.BATUTL>
RETURNTO.ZIP  B    2311  930407  .BAT files for auto-return to starting drv/dir
XSET300.ZIP   B  106570  930407  Put ANYTHING in a variable of current envir.

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.BBS>
FLSORT11.ZIP  B   12050  930407  Very fast BBS file list sorting utility
JVAS109.ZIP   B   60610  930410  JVArcServ v1.09: 'Archie' server for FidoNet
KM295E.ZIP    B  115294  930405  Kmail: QWK-compatible mail door for PCBoard
LSTGEN15.ZIP  B   13550  930407  Generates ALLFILES.LST from BBS file lists

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.BBSDOORS>
CHERI251.ZIP  B  126943  930420  Chat simulation door v2.51 for PCBoard BBSs
NBROW150.ZIP  B   49379  930407  BBS door that allows users to search nodelists
PRFL108.ZIP   B   37348  930407  BBS door which allows users to enter profiles

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.BBSLISTS>
USBBS107.ZIP  B   90163  930405  Darwin's nationwide IBM BBS listing, Apr. 1993

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.BINEDIT>
BEAV140.ZIP   B   94313  930416  Binary file editor, many features and options
BEAV140S.ZIP  B  152633  930416  Binary file editor, C source, PC, UNIX, Amiga

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.BOOTUTIL>
ACTIVATE.ZIP  B   14715  930416  Select hard disk partition while booting

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.C>
ACTLIB12.ZIP  B  151759  930402  General purpose libraries C/C++ programmers
BLTC13.ZIP    B  150186  930423  BULLET database toolkit v1.03 for DOS C
CRNCHR22.ZIP  B   72704  930414  C Libs - FFT,Wavelet,Coherence,Filter,Regr.etc
JULCAL10.ZIP  B   20443  930429  C language sources for Julian date programs

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.CAD>
LASI412A.ZIP  B  308682  930401  LASI v4.12 IC layout CAD prgm; unzip in \lasi4
LASI412B.ZIP  B  332472  930401  LASI v4.12 IC layout CAD prgm; unzip in \lasi4
LASI412C.ZIP  B  279824  930401  LASI v4.12 IC layout CAD prgm; unzip in \lasi4

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.CALCULATOR>
EASTER11.ZIP  B    4461  930430  Calculates the date of Easter in any year
SM22A.ZIP     B  321321  930423  Math/Chemistry symbolic calculator w/learning
TSJOG14.ZIP   B   23846  930418  Simple calculator/pacer for jogging enthusiast

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.CDROM>
CHKCDR11.ZIP  B   28073  930430  Checks and displays CD-ROM information

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.CPLUSPLUS>
CCL100JE.ZIP  B   25080  930423  DOS coroutine class library for Borland C++
STRPP300.ZIP  B   78918  930412  String++ 3.0: string class for Borland C++
Z31P1_6.ZIP   B   94376  930405  Zortech C++ v3.1 compiler patches 01 thru 06

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.DATABASE>
FORMGET1.ZIP  B   22368  930430  Versatile form data entry tool in batch files
SCHOP11.ZIP   B   32431  930410  Optimizes schedules based on your preferences

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.DESKACCESS>
CAL26.ZIP     B   14730  930405  Enhanced Unix-like 'cal' monthly calendar
MYADRSBK.ZIP  B   42631  930407  AddressBook/Write Letters/MailMerge/PrintLists
REM10.ZIP     B   49899  930414  Reminds users of important dates and events
WUK21.ZIP     B  266348  930426  Organizes and prints names, phones, and dates

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL>
DDEL200.ZIP   B    9606  930407  DIRDEL v2.00 - deletes non-empty directories
DIRCM304.ZIP  B   95286  930402  Like DOS REPLACE command with delete option
DIRTO304.ZIP  B  158296  930402  Directory listing and totaller
FFF43.ZIP     B  147293  930423  Derr's FileFinder 4.3, performs fuzzy search
FILEMV06.ZIP  B    6747  930406  Fast and safe file move tool
FILUP304.ZIP  B   50786  930402  Copy updated files based on a control list
FIND221.ZIP   B   31496  930407  Gavin's fast file finder for DOS 3 and higher
LF34.ZIP      B   23756  930402  Find files on any drive/optionally execute cmd
STRUZFDA.ZIP  B   15223  930416  Struz's file and directory attribute utility
VADOL_CD.ZIP  B   11602  930405  Vadol Change Directory: Easy CD, quick access

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.DISASM>
486DIS_C.ZIP  B   11896  930420  TC source for 486 code stream disassembler
OBJ2ASM.ZIP   B   76823  930420  TC Source for intelligent .OBJ disassembler

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.DSKUTL>
COPYQ305.ZIP  B   91574  930430  Fast multiple disk format/copy/verify. SYDEX
DIM14A.ZIP    B   76357  930419  Disk image archiver, copyer w/password prot.
FILL304.ZIP   B  101547  930402  Stuffs as many files as possible on disk
HICOPY25.ZIP  B   73742  930420  High density disk copier, mapping on hard disk
MFA10.ZIP     B   23224  930427  Allocates files on diskettes space-efficiently
QKOPY321.ZIP  B   49972  930423  Quikcopy v3.21: Quick file/diskette copier
SPKT460S.ZIP  B  291524  930412  HyperDisk disk cache w/HyperKey & HyperScreen
ST2DOS10.ZIP  B   16127  930418  Make Atari ST written floppies DOS-readable

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.EDITOR>
ADAMI93.ZIP   B  172148  930413  Tamil word processer / VGA video titler
BREEZE50.ZIP  B  318962  930426  BREEZE v5.0 word processor/text editor
EVOLV104.ZIP  B   97142  930426  Source code structure editor in outline form
MR250.ZIP     B  174509  930405  MindReader intelligent text editor w/spell chk
TDE221.ZIP    B  342042  930414  PD multi-window/file bin & text ed w/ C & asm
VIM127X.ZIP   B  162394  930427  VI editor clone with undo, help, macros & more
VISED35.ZIP   B  408830  930407  Text Editor, multiple windows, mouse support
XNOT.ZIP      B  365786  930429  Fast EMACS-type editor for MS-Windows,NT,Unix

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.EDUCATION>
MATHPR01.ZIP  B   55151  930405  Math practice (+-*/) for 1st thru 4th graders

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.EXECOMP>
DISLT115.ZIP  B   27913  930403  DISLITE, expands all PKLITEd files to original
UNP301.ZIP    B   19606  930416  Unpacks all kinds of compressed executables

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>
CDROM.INF     A     813  930421  Where to obtain SIMTEL20 files on CD-ROM
DOWNLOAD.INF  A    2836  930421  How to get SIMTEL20 files via telephone modem
MAILSERV.INF  A    3119  930421  List of e-mail servers offering SIMTEL20 files
OAKFTP02.ZIP  B    2585  930403
From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat May 01 23:00:00 1993
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From: Rob.Harper@csc.fi (Rob Harper)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: tkWWW for editing HTML
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>Subject: Announcing tkWWW-0.7, the first WYSIWYG X11 HTML editor
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tkWWW Version 0.7 alpha (joe@athena.mit.edu)
--------------------------------------------
WHAT IS THIS?

-------------
World Wide Web (WWW) is a hypertext project which seeks to build a
world wide network of hypertext links.  There are several different
browsers for this system including a simple tty interface.  For a 
demo of the terminal browsers for WWW, telnet to the following sites:

 telnet info.cern.ch or telnet 128.141.201.74 (SWISS)
 telnet eies2.njit.edu or telnet 128.235.1.43 (USA [NJ])
 telnet vms.huji.ac.il or telnet 128.139.4.3  (ISRAEL)
 telnet info.funet.fi or telnet 128.214.6.100 (FINLAND)

 and login as "www"

Tk is an interpreted toolkit which allows one to build X11 applications
quickly and easily.

tkWWW is a Tk interface to (WWW).

it is very easy to make modifications and extensions to the system.
tkWWW is the first X11 browser with the ability to edit HTML!!!!!

What has changed since 0.6?
---------------------------
Rough WYWSIWYG editor!!!!!!!!!!! 
   (with help from Nathan Torkington <Nathan.Torkington@vuw.ac.nz>)
Bug fixes courtesy of Jon Hurley (jhn@biosym.com)
Uses www library version 2.0
Can now grab images over gopher
Added ability to start in iconic mode

Where is this?
--------------
tkWWW 0.7 can be anon ftp'ed from
   export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/tkWWW-0.7.tar.Z
   harbor.ecn.purdue.edu:/tcl/extensions/tkWWW-0.7.tar.Z
   info.cern.ch:/pub/WWW/src/tkWWW-0.7.tar.Z

Mailing list
------------
There is a mailing list devoted to discussions about tkWWW at 
 
   tk-www@athena.mit.edu

To get on this list, send e-mail to

   tk-www-request@athena.mit.edu

To report bugs, send e-mail to
  
   tk-www-bugs@athena.mit.edu

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Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: WORLD CONGRESS IN COMPUTATIONAL MEDICINE<-CFPP
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      [] ***** CALL FOR PAPERS AND PARTICIPATION ***** []

FIRST WORLD CONGRESS ON COMPUTATIONAL MEDICINE AND PUBLIC HEALTH

	             24-28 April 1994
	           Hyatt Regency Hotel
	           	Austin, Texas

                compmed94@chpc.utexas.edu
      (this notice may be reposted/cross posted/circulated)
------------------------------------------------------------------------

*Conference Chair: Matthew Witten, UT System Center For High Performance
            Computing, Austin, Texas - m.witten@chpc.utexas.edu

*Conference Directorate: Regina Monaco, Mt. Sinai Medical Center * Dan 
	    Davison, University of Houston * Chris Johnson, University of
	    Utah * Lisa Fauci, Tulane University * Daniel Zelterman, 
	    University of Minnesota Minneapolis * James Hyman, Los Alamos
	    National Laboratory * Richard Hart, Tulane University * Dennis
	    Duke, SCRI-Florida State University * Sharon Meintz, 
            University of Nevada Los Vegas * Dean Sittig, Vanderbilt
	    University * Dick Tsur, World Bank and UT System CHPC *
	    Dan Deerfield, Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center * Istvan
	    Gyori, Szeged University School of Medicine Computing Center


*Conference Theme: The appearance of high-performance computing environments 
has greatly enhanced the capabilities of the biomedical modeler. With 
increasing frequency, computational sciences are being exploited as a means 
with which to investigate biomedical processes at all levels of complexity, 
from molecular to systemic to demographic. The emergence of an increasing 
number of players in this field has lead to the subsequent emergence of a 
new transdisciplinary field which we call Computational Medicine and Public 
Health. The purpose of this congress is to bring together a transdisciplinary
group of researchers in medicine, public health, computer science, mathematics,
nursing, veterinary medicine, ecology, allied health, as well as numerous
other disciplines, for the purposes of examining the grand challenge problems
of the next decades. 

Young scientists are encouraged to attend and to present their work in this 
increasingly interesting discipline. Funding is being solicited from NSF, 
NIH, DOE, Darpa, EPA, and private foundations, as well as
other sources to assist in travel support and in the offsetting of expenses
for those unable to attend otherwise. Papers, poster presentations, tutorials,
focussed topic workshops,  birds of a feather groups, demonstrations, and other
suggestions are solicited in, but are not limited to the following areas:

*Visualization/Sonification
--- medical imaging
--- molecular visualization as a clinical research tool
--- simulation visualization
--- microscopy
--- visualization as applied to problems arising in computational
    molecular biology and genetics or other non-traditional disciplines

*Computational Molecular Biology and Genetics
--- computational ramifications of clinical needs in the Human Genome,
    Plant Genome, and Animal Genome Projects
--- computational and grand challenge problems in
    molecular biology and genetics
--- algorithms and methodologies
--- issues of multiple datatype databases

*Computational Pharmacology, Pharmacodynamics, Drug Design

*Computational Chemistry as Applied to Clinical Issues

*Computational Cell Biology, Physiology, and Metabolism
--- Single cell metabolic models (red blood cell)
--- Cancer models
--- Transport models
--- Single cell interaction with external factors models (laser,
    ultrasound, electrical stimulus)

*Computational Physiology and Metabolism
--- Renal System
--- Cardiovascular dynamics
--- Liver function
--- Pulmonary dynamics
--- Auditory function, coclear dynamics, hearing
--- Reproductive modeling: ovarian dynamics, reproductive
    ecotoxicology, modeling the hormonal cycle 
--- Metabolic Databases and metabolic models

*Computational Demography, Epidemiology, and Statistics/Biostatistics
--- Classical demographic, epidemiologic, and biostatistical modeling
--- Modeling of the role of culture, poverty, and other
    sociological issues as they impact healthcare

*Computational Disease Modeling
--- AIDS
--- TB
--- Influenza
--- Other

*Computational Biofluids
--- Blood flow
--- Sperm dynamics
--- Modeling of arteriosclerosis

*Computational Dentistry, Orthodontics, and Prosthetics

*Computational Veterinary Medicine 
--- Computational issues in modeling non-human dynamics such
    as equine, feline, canine dynamics (physiological/biomechanical)

*Computational Allied Health Sciences
--- Physical Therapy
--- Neuromusic Therapy
--- Resiratory Therapy

*Computational Radiology
--- Dose modeling
--- Treatment planning

*Computational Surgery
--- Simulation of surgical procedures in VR worlds
--- Surgical simulation as a precursor to surgical intervention

*Computational Cardiology

*Computational Neurobiology and Neurophysiology 
--- Brain modeling
--- Single neuron models
--- Neural nets and clinical applications
--- Neurophysiological dynamics 
--- Neurotransmitter modeling
--- Neurological disorder modeling (Alzheimers Disease, for example)

*Computational Biomechanics
--- Bone Modeling
--- Joint Modeling

*The role of alternate reality methodologies
 and high performance environments in the medical and
 public health disciplines

*Issues in the use of high performance computing 
 environments in the teaching of health science 
 curricula

*The role of high performance environments
 for the handling of large medical datasets (high
 performance storage environments, high performance
 networking, high performance medical records 
 manipulation and management, metadata structures
 and definitions)

*Federal and private support for transdisciplinary research
 in computational medicine and public health


*Contact: To contact the congress organizers for any reason
	        use any of the following

            Electronic Mail - compmed94@chpc.utexas.edu
            Fax (USA)       - (512) 471-2445
	    Phone (USA)     - (512) 471-2472
	                   
            Compmed 1994
            University of Texas System CHPC
	    Balcones Research Center, 1.154CMS
	    10100 Burnet Road 
	    Austin, Texas 78758-4497 
	

*Submission Procedures: Authors must submit 5 copies
      of a single-page 50-100 word abstract clearly discussing the 
      topic of their presentation. In addition, authors must clearly 
      state their choice of poster, contributed paper, tutorial, exhibit,
      focussed workshop or birds of a feather group along with a
      discussion of their presentation. Abstracts will be published 
      as part of the preliminary conference material.
      To notify the congress organizing committee that you would like to
      participate and to be put on the congress mailing list, 
      please fill out and return the form that follows this announcement.             You may use any of the contact methods above.

*Conference Deadlines: The following deadlines should be noted:
     1 October   1993 - Notification of interest in participation 
     1 November  1993 - Abstracts for talks/posters/workshops/birds of a 
                        feather sessions/demonstrations
     15 January  1994 - Notification of acceptance of abstract
     15 February 1994 - Application for financial aid
		     
============================= INTENT TO PARTICIPATE ==========================




First Name:

Middle Initial (if available):

Family Name:

Your Professional Title:

       [ ]Dr.
       [ ]Professor
       [ ]Mr.
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       [ ]Ms.
       [ ]Other:__________________

Office Phone (desk):

Office Phone (message):

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Fax:

Electronic Mail (Bitnet):

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Please list your three major interest areas:

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===================================================================


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From: Rob.Harper@csc.fi (Rob Harper)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: ftp.cray.com Announcement
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Cray Research is pleased to announce the availability of ftp.cray.com, a
public information service provided through anonymous ftp over the Internet. 
This service is provided free of charge to anyone with Internet access.  It is
intended to be a means of communicating information about supercomputing and
Cray Research to the worldwide community.  

Please share the news about this new service with your customers and
interested users of Cray Research systems.

The information on ftp.cray.com includes:

+ Cray Research product announcements
+ Cray Research press releases
+ Directory of Application Software for Cray Research Supercomputers
+ Information about Cray Research products
+ Articles of general interest to the supercomputing community
+ Miscellaneous electronic artwork
+ Source code for some public domain programs that run on Cray Research
  systems

To access ftp.cray.com from a UNIX system prompt:

$ ftp ftp.cray.com      (the Internet address is 128.162.15.3)

When prompted for your name, enter: anonymous

When prompted for a password, enter your email address.

Instructions for the use of ftp.cray.com are in the file
README.CRAY, found in the top-level directory.

There are also several popular interface programs in the public domain
that support access to anonymous ftp servers from a PC or a Macintosh.

ftp.cray.com is a public information service of Cray Research.  Individual
users are responsible for abiding by the appropriate use policies of their
local network.
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% END %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

P.S. a direct ftp hook into into the CRAY ftp site is available on the gopher
at CSC in the Finnish EMBnet BioBox

gopher gopher.csc.fi 70

will take you there.

RGDS -=ROB=-

 Rob Harper                        E-mail:          harper@convex.csc.fi    
 Center for Scientific Computing   Molbio/software: harper@nic.funet.fi
 Tietotie 6, P.O. Box 405          Telephone:       +358 0 457 2076
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Please sign me up for this newsgroup.  Thanks.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun May 02 23:00:00 1993
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From: HAESS@IMMUNBIO.MPG.DE (Gunther H)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: coloured sequence-editor (Protein !) ?
Message-ID: <1993May3.175609.16@immunbio.mpg.de>
Date: 3 May 93 16:56:09 GMT
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In <francis.736118661@monod> francis@monod.Biol.McGill.CA writes:

> beynonrj@liverpool.ac.uk (Dr. R.J. Beynon) writes:
> 
> >Don Gilbert (gilbertd@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu) wrote:
> >: If someone will suggest what colors should be associated with
> >: what amino acids for an editor display I will put it into
> >: a coming release of seqapp.  At some point I'll make it
> >: user-definable, but give me a starting selection.
> 
> >: -- 
> >: Don Gilbert                                     gilbert@bio.indiana.edu
> >: biocomputing office, biology dept., indiana univ., bloomington, in 47405
> 
> >Well, here's suggestion 1, to get things rolling...
> 
> >R,K (H?)       : red  (+ive)
> >D,E            : blue (-ive)
> >N,Q            : magenta (cf blue)
> >C,M            : yellow (sulphur, or sulfur :-) )
> >A,I,L,M,W,F,V  : black ('oily')
> >S,T,Y,G        : white (not 'oily')
> 
> >Opinions, alternatives anyone?
> 
> 
> What is the proposed background colour for these different "greys"
> (oily and not oily)?
> 
> f.
> 
> 
> --
> | B.F. Francis Ouellette     * francis@monod.biol.mcgill.ca *
> |
> |      "Je cherche a` comprendre"  Jacques Monod



I wrote a little file-viewer for the VAX, that's able to display 
aa's in different, user-defined colours. Because the VAX doesen't support
colours in  textmode, I performed a REGIS(Graphics)-output. So its 
disadvantages are, that it's working very slowly and it's not an editor.

But the groups of aa with the same colours by default in this Program are

K R H                 kations         black on red
E D                   anions          black on blue
S T Q N               polar           black on yellow
V L I A W F C M Y     not polar       black on green
P G                   "special"       black on white
  
I think it's better to use a coloured background instead of coloured letters,
because if you want to read the letters, it's better they're in one color.
And if you want to distinguish different groups of aa's, it's better to have
more coloured area than only the letters themselves.


Instead of programming a whole editor for the MAC, I think it would be a good
idea of using a kind of macro with a present word-processor. Does anybody know 
about such a macro-tool for "WORD for MAC" ?


Gunther Haess, 
MPI-IB Freiburg/Germany
haess@immunbio.mpg.de     

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From: danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Dan Jacobson)
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.software
Subject: Search and retrieve Simtel files and descriptions by Gopher
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You can now search the one-line descriptions of the programs on the
Simtel (DOS software) ftp archive and retrieve the program at the same time.
It goes like this:

Point your gopher client at merlot.welch.jhu.edu and select the
following:

 -->  14. Search and Retrieve Software/

  -->  4.  Search and Retrieve DOS Software/

   -->  1.  DOS programs - one line descriptions (Simtel) <?>

Now search this for your favorite topic - lets try:

postscript

And you see quite a few programs that deal with postscript - 
so let's narrow it down a bit -  so lets say that what you really want 
to do is to generate a postscript maze ... so:

postscript and maze

gives us the following:

 -->  1.  amaze10.zip  postscript file creates random maze on printer  <Bin>

If you select this item we will be asked for a file name and the entire
program will be retrieved and put on your hard disk.

So in short:

       1.  DOS programs - one line descriptions (Simtel) <?>

                Will search a database of one-line descriptions of the
                files in the SIMTEL archives and its mirror sites.  Once you
                have located a program(s) with this search you can simply
                retrieve the whole program by selecting it from the search
                results.  You may use booleans (and, or, not) to design your
                search,  'or' is implied if no other operators (and, not) are
                given.



If you've never heard of gopher don't worry it free and on the net,
write me a note if you'd like information on how to get started.


Happy Searching,

Dan Jacobson

danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon May 03 23:00:00 1993
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From: dlowry@cmu.unige.ch
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: re: Prosite?????
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In article <1s4nvl$1s1@gondor.sdsu.edu> hsb@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Hirdeypal S. Bhathal) writes:
>
>Hi Netter
>		What are the hardware requirements to run Prosite. Can I 
>run it on Quadra 800. Where can I get it. Thanks.
>
>Hirdeypal
>hsb@ucssun1.sdsu.edu
>

Dear Hirdeypal,

PROSITE - A Dictionary of Sites and Patterns in Protein Sequences is a
DATABASE!  (of sites and patterns in protein sequences) - maintained
by Dr. Amos Bairoch.  There are quite a few programs that can search a
sequence using the Prosite database.

I am not sure what a Quadra 800 is!  Please send me e-mail and I'll 
look into what programs run on it for you, if you like.

- Dorothy Lowry
  (NON-DISCLAIMER:  I am Dr. Bairoch's grad student.)

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Hi Netter
		What are the hardware requirements to run Prosite. Can I 
run it on Quadra 800. Where can I get it. Thanks.

Hirdeypal
hsb@ucssun1.sdsu.edu

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From: domier@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
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Subject: Multiple Alignment for Mac
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Is there a public domain multiple seqeunce alignment program
available for a Mac?

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From: lsimon@alnus.for.ulaval.ca (Luc Simon)
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Subject: Re: coloured sequence-editor (Protein !) ?
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In article <1993May3.175609.16@immunbio.mpg.de>, HAESS@IMMUNBIO.MPG.DE
(Gunther H) wrote:
> 
>[stuff deleted...] 
> I wrote a little file-viewer for the VAX, that's able to display 
> aa's in different, user-defined colours. Because the VAX doesen't support
> colours in  textmode, I performed a REGIS(Graphics)-output. So its 
> disadvantages are, that it's working very slowly and it's not an editor.
> 
> But the groups of aa with the same colours by default in this Program are
> 
> K R H                 kations         black on red
> E D                   anions          black on blue
> S T Q N               polar           black on yellow
> V L I A W F C M Y     not polar       black on green
> P G                   "special"       black on white
>   
> I think it's better to use a coloured background instead of coloured letters,
> because if you want to read the letters, it's better they're in one color.
> And if you want to distinguish different groups of aa's, it's better to have
> more coloured area than only the letters themselves.
> 
> 
> Instead of programming a whole editor for the MAC, I think it would be a good
> idea of using a kind of macro with a present word-processor. Does anybody know 
> about such a macro-tool for "WORD for MAC" ?
> 
> 
> Gunther Haess, 
> MPI-IB Freiburg/Germany
> haess@immunbio.mpg.de     

Why not simply designing a few colored fonts for the mac, where some
letters are assigned background color. Each one could have a name
informative about the coloring scheme: "AA Hydrophobicity" or "AA size" and
the like. Then, using one's favorite editor, you simply select the portion
of sequence to be color-coded and apply the desired font....et voila!

Such a thing as already been done: the font BKGCuclc is the best example (I
don't know where it comes from!!) and is VERY useful to view DNA
alignements, for example in the PAUP editor.


Luc Simon
CRBF, Universite Laval
Quebec
lsimon@alnus.for.ulaval.ca

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon May 03 23:00:00 1993
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From: ecec@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Eric Cabot)
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Subject: Re: coloured sequence-editor (Protein !) ?
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Date: 4 May 93 15:34:56 GMT
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In article <1993May3.175609.16@immunbio.mpg.de> HAESS@IMMUNBIO.MPG.DE (Gunther Hd_) writes:
>
>  
>I think it's better to use a coloured background instead of coloured letters,
>because if you want to read the letters, it's better they're in one color.
>And if you want to distinguish different groups of aa's, it's better to have
>more coloured area than only the letters themselves.
>
>
>Gunther Haess, 
>MPI-IB Freiburg/Germany
>haess@immunbio.mpg.de     

I agree with Dr. Haess that it is better to use colored backgrounds than
colored letters. In playing around with a colorizing ESEE, I've found
that I cannot distinguish many of the letters if they are in different
colors against either a white or black background. (Other backgrounds
invariably lead to loss of the corresponding color types).  I have
little difficulty with distinguishing different colored backgrounds though.

True, I'm color blind and my eyes aren't as sharp as they once were
but I'm certain that I'm not the only sequence analyzer that suffers
from these problems.

Eric Cabot
U. of Chicago

P.S. Please no requests for the colorized ESEE, it's not finished yet!

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon May 03 23:00:00 1993
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From: ROUCHDA@VAX1.COMPUTER-CENTRE.BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK (Duncan Rouch)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Future of Academic Biocomputing Facilities
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Future of Academic Biocomputing Facilities.


Hi Netters,
If your work is touched by Biocomputing this discussion is for you.  
If you are a molecular biologist user, a programmer, or keep a 
biocomputing service on the road you have a stake in the future of 
biocomputing facilities.  Effective service requires effective 
communication between a service and its customer molecular 
biologists, in both directions.  Users can provide both necessary 
feedback and political support for biocomputing services [1].  
Software developments must be integrated into the service environment 
to be effective.  Here we discuss the future of academic biocomputing 
facilities, with emphasis on commercialization.


Duncan Rouch, University of Birmingham UK (D.A.Rouch@BHAM.AC.UK)
Tim Littlejohn, Universite de Montreal (Little@ere.umontreal.ca)



Contents:

1. Introduction: Optimizing Biocomputing With or Without Commercialization.

2. Academic Computing Facilities: Obtaining and Maintaining Success.
	2.1  Obtaining a Better Academic Service.
	2.2  Factors Against Optimization.
		2.2a  Suspended Animation.
		2.2b  Becoming Invisible.

3. Commercialization.
	3.1  Which facilities are we talking about?
		3.1.1  National Services.
		3.1.2  Site-wide Services.
			3.1.2a  Why Site-wide Services are Important.
			3.1.2b  Site-wide Services as Targets for 
				Commercialization.
4. Going Commercial.
	4.1  Going Commercial, Badly.
		4.1.1  Site-wide Services Seen as Expendable.
		4.1.2  Lack of Effective Planning.
		4.1.3  Inadequate Management Structure.
		4.1.4  A Poor Service as the Basis.
	4.2  Going Commercial, Improving the Odds.
		4.2.1  Commercialization and Public Responsibility.
		4.2.2  Starting With a Good Service.
		4.2.3  Charging For Services.
	4.3  Maintaining a Commercialized Service.
	4.4  Competition.

5. Conclusion.

6. Acknowledgements.

7. References.



1. Introduction:  Optimizing Biocomputing With or Without 
Commercialization.
 
Although some academic computing facilities have already been 
commercialized, for example what is now Minnesota Supercomputer 
Center Inc., at the University of Minnesota, this is not yet a 
widespread phenomenon.  However, at least in the UK, there are 
government moves to marketize the academic world, which could well 
lead to pressure to turn academic computing services into commercial 
enterprises.

It is essential for scientists and computing staff to discuss what 
arrangement of computing services would create the optimal support 
for research in the biological sciences, which could include an element 
of commercialization.  This is critical if we are to shape the future
of biocomputing facilities and not leave their fate to bureaucrats 
and legislators who may not fully appreciate their importance.


2. Academic Computing Facilities: Obtaining and Maintaining Success.

Our objective here is to look at how a successful computing service 
can be established and maintained, whether or not it has a commercial
component.  We define a successful service as one that performs 
effectively in five areas [1]. It: 
     (1) trains staff to deal with new technology; 
     (2) trains staff in care of user scientists (customer care); 
     (3) trains customers to use the facilities offered;
     (4) obtains and acts on feedback from its customers; 
     (5) plans for future needs.

Users of a particular facility may be research scientists, or 
science educators, or more usually of both kinds. 

Successful biocomputing facilities effectively support users in four 
major classes of computer-aided techniques:
     (a) functional-sequence analysis; 
     (b) evolutionary-sequence analysis; 
     (c) molecular modelling;
     (d) analysis of related information databases, such as literature.  

Such facilities will also benefit from sharing information and expertise 
with other facilities [1].  Also, users of small department- and 
lab-specific facilities can be helped where support for these 
facilities can be offered by a local site-wide service, which is
able to do this through economies of scale.


   2.1  Obtaining a Better Academic Service.

For a facility to provide an optimal service for a given level 
of resources it must be highly responsive to the needs of user 
scientists.  This can be encouraged, for example, in the case of 
a site-wide service where the budget for the research and education 
departments is drawn on to fund the computing service.  Then the 
departments should have some say in what kind of service they 
should get.  This gives each department a financial incentive for 
pressing for an efficient facility: a more efficient facility would
also help improve the research and educational performance of the 
department.  

A prerequisite for creating and maintaining an efficient service is 
effective management [2].  Effective management personnel: 

	(a) identify what facilities are required; 

	(b) decide what level of service can be offered with a 
	    given amount of resources;

	(c) have the authority to argue for sufficient resources
	    to offer an adequate service, if these do not already exist; 

	(d) set up services and keep them running 
	    to meet set objectives;

	(e) advance user-facility and staff-management understanding,
            by communication, through: (i) elucidation of user needs, 
            (ii) giving users practical expectations of what facilities 
            can be provided, (iii) ensuring that staff perceive that 
            managers have realistic expectations of their performance;   

	(f) keep the service up to date in relation to the changing
	    needs of user scientists.

A not uncommon failing is not to give the head manager of a service
sufficient status within the institution. A head manager must have a 
relative status that is reasonably close to that of the senior decision
makers, in order to be given due weight when arguing for appropriate
resources.  To put this another way, managers must have adequate power 
to fulfil the responsibilities of the job. This is necessary to allow 
them to make the necessary decisions to make a success of the service.

An efficient computing service among other things should have the 
capability to both upgrade facilities and user-support as new 
technology evolves, and expand the facilities to meet the increased 
need for access to electronic information [1].  Now we look at 
factors that might hinder this capability.


   2.2  Factors Against Optimization.

    2.2a  Suspended Animation.

Obviously if a computing service is suffering a restricted budget it 
is difficult to introduce change, for example, a major hardware upgrade.  
If this occurs the service may go into a state of suspended animation. 
However, if the restrictive budget is in place for a reasonably short 
period, especially following years of an adequate budget, no long term 
damage is likely to result.

On the other hand, if a restrictive budget has been in place for 
years a computer service may be in danger of failing to provide a 
level of service required for the research it supports to be 
internationally competitive.  This may eventually result in the 
future of the host institution being threatened.


An unduly restrictive budget over time may be the result of an 
inefficient management structure.  Typically, too many vertical 
levels of administration can cause an organization to move very 
slowly.  Administrations can be conditioned for a relatively 
constant environment and cope badly with the need for change.  This 
has also been found to be a problem in some large commercial 
corporations.  

The best long-term solution to a badly setup administration is 
naturally a total reorganization of the administrative structure.  
This may be a job best performed by outside commercial management 
consultants.

However, a catch with radical restructuring is that unforseen 
problems can easily arise so it can be some time before optimal 
performance of the administration is reached.  In this case it might 
be useful to target an under-resourced computing facility for extra 
aid early on in the restructuring process.


    2.2b  Becoming Invisible.

A factor that may deleteriously affect the quality of even the best
computing service is naturally a budget cut.  A small cut may be 
allow an adequate level of service to be maintained, at least in 
the short term.  

However, a major budget cut can put a service in danger of becoming 
totally ineffective.  Essential maintenance and hardware/software 
upgrading may be out of the question. Also, front-line user support 
might have to be cut entirely.  Interaction with customer scientists 
is essential for maintenance of a successful service [1].  So, without 
the interaction provided by front-line user support, combined with 
reduced hardware/software facilities, the local service may become 
totally ineffective.

In this case individual departments or labs may attempt to meet their 
own computing needs or rely on national services.  Then the local 
service may be seen as totally unecessary and cut completely. 

In the long-term, the entire loss of a local service will tend to 
result in inefficient computing support across the site.  
Financially well endowed departments may be able to cope reasonably 
well but small, less well off departments may not. 

Naturally, one solution to this problem is not to have the major budget 
reduction in the first place.  One way to reduce the chances of 
excessive financial restriction is for user scientists and staff in 
the computing service to work together to persuade the decision-makers 
what computing resources are necessary.


3. Commercialization.

There are two logical reasons for commercializing an academic 
computing service, (i) to increase its efficiency in supporting 
academic research and education functions, and/or (ii) to generate 
income for the host institution or organization.

Given the critical importance of computing facilities in sustaining 
both biocomputing and the electronic information revolution, the 
academic arena is only bettered if the efficency of computing 
support is increased.  This then should be the major factor in 
deciding whether to commercialize or not, and if so, in what form.

A result of a compromise between reasons (i) and (ii) could be the 
forming a computing business 
From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon May 03 23:00:00 1993
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From: francis@MONOD.BIOL.MCGILL.CA (Francis Ouellette)
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Subject: Re: Prosite?????
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In bionet.software you write:

>I am not sure what a Quadra 800 is!  Please send me e-mail and I'll
>look into what programs run on it for you, if you like.

Bonjour dorothy ...

a quaddra is a big Mac! (top of their line)

I think (quick gopher look) there is a Mac engine for PROSITE:

gopher ftp.bio.indiana.edu

 -->  5. IUBio-Software+Data/

  -->  9.  Molecular biology/

     -->  10. mac/
    
    
	 -->  73. macpattern.readme  [11Nov92, 4kb].
	      74. macpattern20 <HQX>


The top of the readme file reads:

> The new version v2.0 of MacPattern is now available.
> MacPattern is a Macintosh application which was originally designed
> for protein pattern searches using the PROSITE pattern database.
>
> Version 2.0 added the following new features:

and as Dan Jacobson would say:

"If you have not heard of gopher ...  don't worry, it is free"  and
info on getting it set up at your site is available from Dan
(danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu) or myself.

regards,

francis



From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon May 03 23:00:00 1993
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From: danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Dan Jacobson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Multiple Alignment for Mac
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Date: 4 May 93 14:55:10 GMT
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In article <C6I83s.C1u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> domier@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>Is there a public domain multiple seqeunce alignment program
>available for a Mac?

There are a few around - there is a version of clustalV (Higgins et al.)
which will run on a Mac, there is Aligner (a Multiple sequence editor by 
Doug Eernisse), and there is SeqApp (Don Gilbert).

You can retrieve SeqApp by gopher or ftp from ftp.bio.indiana.edu
and the others from felix.embl-heidelberg.de.


Best of luck,

Dan Jacobson

danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue May 04 23:00:00 1993
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From: raghava@imtech.ernet.in (G.P.S.RAGHAVA)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
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Dear friends,
I am working on prediction of protein secondary structure from their 
amino acid sequences. I am using different software for predicting the 
secondary structure and I want to assess the quality of prediction from these
softwares. Please write me about the  software avilable for assessing the
percentage of residues predicted correctly in a protein or set of proteins.
Thanks in advance

(G P S Raghava)
 
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molbio++, release 0.01, is now available via anonymous ftp from:

			golgi.harvard.edu
			pub/CONTRIBUTIONS/molbio++


molbio++ is a C++ library for molecular biosequence analysis.  Major features
include:


	classes and services for
	     reading and writing sequence data in the following formats:

			Genbank Flatfile
			EMBL / SwissProt
			GCG / Wisconsin
			Fasta / Pearson
			PIR
			NCBI Retrieve Server (read-only)

	     limited parsing of fields and features in biosequence files

	     storing amino acid or nucleic acid sequences

	     iterating over a biosequence

	     calculating and storing counts or frequencies of amino acids
		or nucleotides

	     device-independent graphics, via GCG's FIGURE program

	     translating nucleotide sequences into proteins using
	       the universal genetic code or modifications thereof.

	     parsing BLAST output

	     calculating pI and molecular weight of proteins

	     amino acid hydropathy values of Kyte & Doolittle

	
	example programs for

		reformatting biosequence files
		
		extracting open reading frames from nucleotide sequences

		parsing BLAST output

		calculating isoelectric point and molecular weight of proteins

		codon usage plots

		calculating local %GC for nucleotide sequences

		finding restriction sites in nucleotide sequences


	
The examples in molbio++ are not meant to replace existing programs
(they are almost universally superior in functionality), but rather to
demonstrate the classes and provide bases for customization.


molbio++ is the result of an ongoing individual research project.  I 
apologize in advance for any trouble it may give you, but cannot be
held liable.  

At this point, molbio++ has only been tested with cfront running on
a Sparcstation.  In general, there should be very few compatibility 
problems.  UNIX-specific features are confined to a single class,
and no templates are used.  

The mention of any commercial products in molbio++ and its accompanying
documentation does not constitute an endorsement, but simply reflects what
I have available for use.


If you attempt to use the libraries, please send a message to:

		robison@biosun.harvard.edu

(N.B. it's robISon, not robINSon; someone else gets it there)



Announcements of general updates to molbio++ will be posted to 

		bionet.software


Major announcements (major revisions, change in ftp site, etc)
will also be posted to comp.lang.c++ and bionet.announce.


An earlier version of the library was distributed under the name
"kertools".  molbio++ is completely incompatible with kertools,
as the result of a major rewrite.  If you have software written
for kertools, I can lend some advice as to how to convert.



Acknowledgements:

	KR is supported by a National Defense Science Fellowship,
and uses computers funded by the Department of Energy, the National 
Institutes of Health, and the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.  Development
of the library has been driven by challenges given me by Dr. Walter Gilbert
and Dr. George Church.  I have benefitted from discussions with Gary Gryan
and Peter Jensen.  Finally, I would have never gotten around to learning
C++ if it were not for the gift of Stroustrup from my brother, Arch Robison.


Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics (Harvard Medical School) / HHMI
robison@biosun.harvard.edu

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From: lwalsh@nemo (Laura L. Walsh)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Conway's Life
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I am looking for the Game of Life, specifically one
that will run on a Macintosh.  I have tried using
archie, but I am not sure of the exact title of the
game and I couldn't find what I thought was the
correct software.  I know someone said there was
an After Dark module by that name, but I want to 
use this software in a course, and I don't think the
AD module would be usable in that manner.
Laura Walsh

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Newsgroups: bionet.software
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In <lwalsh.736626655@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lwalsh@nemo (Laura L. Walsh) writes:

>I am looking for the Game of Life, specifically one
>that will run on a Macintosh.  I have tried using
>archie, but I am not sure of the exact title of the
>game and I couldn't find what I thought was the
>correct software.  I know someone said there was
>an After Dark module by that name, but I want to 
>use this software in a course, and I don't think the
>AD module would be usable in that manner.

I know of two versions of Life for After Dark. One 
of these is configurable, i.e. you can setup
the patterns. It is called Life II and should
be available from sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
If not, mail me and I'll send you a binhexed
version.

Sorry to post this on the net, but the return
address of Laura is invalid (domain name missing).

--Cornelius.
-- 
/* Cornelius Krasel, Department of Physiological Chemistry, U Tuebingen    */ 
/* email: krasel@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de                             */
/* "People are DNA's way of making more DNA." (R. Dawkins / anonymous)     */

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Subject: GENOME SEQUENCING AND ANALYSIS CONFERENCE V
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FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT

GENOME SEQUENCING AND ANALYSIS CONFERENCE V

October 23-27, 1993
Hyatt Regency, Hilton Head Island, South Carolina
___________________________

ABSTRACT DEADLINE:  August 20, 1993
___________________________

Cochaired by:
J. Craig Venter, Ph.D., The Institute for Genomic Research
C. Thomas Caskey, M.D., Baylor College of Medicine

Sponsored and	supported by:
National Center for Human Genome Research, NIH
Office of Health and Environmental Research, DOE
The Human Genome Organisation (HUGO)
The Institute for Genomic Research

Corporate sponsors (at this time):
Applied Biosystems Inc.
Human Genome Sciences Inc.
New England Biolabs
Qiagen Inc.

The fifth annual Genome Sequencing and Analysis Conference is an
international conference devoted to discussion of current approaches to
understanding the human genome.  A special emphasis is placed on methods
and criteria for analyzing experimental data.  New results from major
research groups worldwide are presented and discussed.  Plenary sessions,
workshops, and working groups are scheduled for presentation and discussion
of data and methodology.

Special events will include a workshop sponsored by HUGO on quality control
issues in genome research.

The Data Fair, poster sessions and electronic posters provide forums for
researchers to present their latest data and to encourage interaction
between participants.

Exhibitors display the latest in automated sequencers, laboratory robots,
and products for molecular biology.  Computer hardware and software for
sequencing and analysis also is demonstrated.

REGISTRATION MATERIALS WILL BE SENT AUTOMATICALLY TO PAST PARTICIPANTS.  If
you wish to be added to the mailing list, contact:
Susan Wallace
Genome Sequencing and Analysis Conference
The Institute for Genomic Research
932 Clopper Road
Gaithersburg, MD 20878
(301) 216-9567
(301) 977-7233 FAX
Internet: swallace@tigr.org

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From: mbpcr@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (A. Parsons)
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Subject: Parallel Processors/Algorithms (Summary)
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NetFolk,

Well all threads on my original post on parallel architectures in database
similarity searching have all but dried up.

Here is the summary (LONG = 1500 lines) including some related threads and
earlier comms I had with other folk.  It also features the controversial
Intelligenetics survey on BLAZE. 

My overall opinion is that generally people feel that using an implementation
of the S&W algorithm is:

(a) valuable
(b) delivers better quality results.
(c) the only real practicable way of implemeting S & W in a realistic timeframe
    is to use massively parallel hardware. (mpsrch and BLAZE).

This is only my impression others may come away with different ones.  PVM is an
interesting idea but given a greenfield site (we dont have lots of Unix
workstations networked - much less any with too many spare cycles) I think that
massively parallel is the way to go.  The speed aspect may be important but I
think it is the quality argument that wins the day (see Chris Uptons posts). 

Hope you find this valuable/useful/helpful and not too much of a waste of
network bandwidth.

Many thanks to all who replied!

Tony Parsons

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begin ;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: S S Sturrock <sss@uk.ac.ed.castle>
Early Correspondence from Shane Sturrock (author of Mpsrch)

Well, MPsrch will arrive on a MasPar at Harrow (HGMP-RC) probably in the
next week or so, they will also be evaluating BLAZE.  The EMBL installation
is waiting on good network connections and an upgrade of the OS on their
machine since that MasPar was supplied by DEC.

Performance wise, MPsrch is about two and a bit times quicker, performance
of BLAZE is about 55 million cell updates a second compared with 130
million on MPsrch.  More to the point though, although BLAZE is a Smith
Waterman on the MasPar the reconstruction is by FASTDB, a word based method
which is supposedly fast but does not guarantee to get the same alignment
as the MasPar, certainly the scores would not agree, the score is the one
reported by the S/W algorithm, the alignment is FASTDB.  On MPsrch, the
reconstruction is also by full S/W and still manages to be about 10x
quicker than the FASTDB method used on BLAZE, plus the score will agree
because the algorithm is the same.  Further, I have introduced the concept
of gaps where a gap may be one or many indels thus giving the clumping
effect of affine gaps by a simple modification to the S/W algorithm for
reconstruction, this is because many paths may give the same score but
generally it is best to pick the one with least gaps (although the same
number of indels).  We still have a single penalty though since having
affine gaps increases the complexity though we will introduce them if
anyone feels they will be an advantage over the route I have chosen.

eg:

With DNA in particular -

Standard algorithm:

      ******        *  * * *   ************
      acttatattcctctatattggatgatgctggtctgat
      acttct--------a--t-g-a---tgctggtctgat

MPsrch:

      ********               **************
      acttatattcctctatattggatgatgctggtctgat
      acttctat---------------gatgctggtctgat

These two score identically but the second is obviously the best alignment
because it only has one gap rather than the five of the standard method.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: S S Sturrock <sss@uk.ac.ed.castle>

What you may be interested in is that the smallest MasPar machine is now
only 55K pounds including the workstation host, this gives you a 1024
processor MasPar box with MP1 processors, upgradable to 4096 processors,
either MP1 or MP2 (which would give over 26000 mips + 6 gigaflops) without
the need to change anything else, just a simple board swap.  MPsrch will
run on this set up, we have discussed the possibility of a package deal too
so that may be something to interest you.  At these prices it seems crazy
to go for anything else, and on the minimum configuration you will still
get 40 million cell updates a second at the moment, but should be much more
after I come back from California, basically you will get better
performance than BLAZE on a far cheaper machine.  Too good to be true?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Pearson (Fasta fame) writes:

>Having read some of the literature that compares various algorithms,
>the articles tend to sort into two classes:
> 
>     1) Theoretically based papers discussing the various mathematical
>        merits of one algorithm versus another. The authors are likely to
>        have an investment in their favorite tool, and it's not always clear
>        (to me) how the math translates to the real world
> 
>     2) Very general papers which look at two or three sequences and
>        draw conclusions about algorithm strengths from a limited database.
> 
>It seems to me that all the algorithms have their unique strengths and
>weaknesses- and this is going to be strongly sequence dependent. That
>is why I made the original post, in an attempt to discern the relative
>strengths of the programs for different applications.

I (with bias, no doubt) recommend the paper:

	W. R. Pearson (1991) Genomics "Searching Protein Sequence Libraries:
	Comparison of the Sensitivity and Selectivity of the Smith-Waterman
	and FASTA Algorithms"  11:635-650

It examines the performance of FASTA, BLAST, and the Smith Waterman
algorithm (which is used by BLAZE) on about 34 different superfamilies
of proteins (all superfamilies with 20 or more members).  The bottom
line is that Smith-Waterman performs better than BLAST or FASTA, but
that FASTA will perform as well as Smith-Waterman if one optimizes all
the library scores (the -o option) and search about 10X faster than
Smith-Waterman (though not, of course, 10X faster than Smith-Waterman
on a MasPar). A description of the -o option and the reference to the
Genomics paper is provided with the FASTA documentation.

	In the past 6 months I have extended these studies to 75
superfamilies and used more rigorous statistical tests, but the result
is the same, if you use the -o option with FASTA, you will do as well
as Smith-Waterman. If you don't, you won't.

	These comments apply only to protein sequence searching.  I do
not believe that there is any advantage to slower, more rigorous,
algorithms for DNA sequence searches.  For DNA, if a significant
similarity exists in a non-protein-coding sequence, BLAST or FASTA
will find it as well as, or better than, Smith-Waterman.  With DNA,
selectivity is much more of a problem than sensitivity and both FASTA
and BLAST are more selective.

	Since the protein sequence libraries are considerably smaller
than the DNA sequence libraries (and will continue to be, even after
entire genomes are sequenced), I believe that it is reasonable for
most researchers to rely on FASTA with the -o option for protein
library searches and on FASTA or BLAST for DNA searches.

	There is one place where the Smith-Waterman algorithm should
be used, however - in the preparation of alignments for publication.
For some proteins with large variable-length loops, FASTA will not
allow gaps of the appropriate size (and BLAST does not construct
alignments with gaps, although it often shows several aligned
regions).  I am considering modifying FASTA to display rigorous
Smith-Waterman alignments rather than the approximate (gaps < 16
residues) it calculates currently.  A Smith-Waterman implementation
(SSEARCH) is available with the FASTA distribution.

Bill Pearson

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Subject: Genbank BLAZE user survey summary
Cc: stamm@COM.MasPar
Sender: stamm@COM.MasPar

Thank you all for your patience.  Here is the survey summary
as promised.

Regards,
Rich Stamm
stamm@maspar.com


============================================================
		GENBANK BLAZE USER SURVEY

		  SUMMARY OF RESPONSES

BLAZE email server was operated by IntelliGenetics from May to September 
of 1992 funded in part by IntelliGenetics, MasPar and the National 
Institutes of Health.  A summary of the survey questions and responses 
follows. A total of 63 people sent responses by email.

1)  When you first used BLAZE did you have any previous experience
    searching sequence databases with the Smith-Waterman algorithm?

Previous experience reported:

SMITH-WATERMAN 	=  7
FASTA 		= 27
BLAST 		= 20
WORDSEARCH	=  2
GAP 		=  1
FASTDB 		=  1
EMBL/ARGOS 	=  1

    If so, what were your impressions of the algorithm?

Impressions reported 

FAVORABLE = 29 
(mentioned are speed, accuracy, sensitivity, ease of use, 
annotations, exploratory nature)

OK = 3

UNFAVORABLE = 3 
(unfavorable experiences were due to problems with email, 
software bugs, missing features)


2)  Did you achieve noticably better sensitivity using BLAZE over
    other search algorithms?  Which ones (FASTA, BLAST, FASTDB...)?

Reports of increased sensitivity

OVER FASTA 		= 15
OVER BLAST 		= 13
OVER FASTDB		=  1
OVER WORDSEARCH		=  1
NON-SPECIFIC INCREASED OBSERVED	=  7
NO ASSESSMENT DONE			= 11
SENSITIVITY INCREASE NOT OBSERVED	= 13*

*7 OF THESE 13 RESPONDEES REPORTED THAT THEIR QUERY SEQUENCES 
EITHER HAD MANY STRONG MATCHES OR (NEARLY) NO MATCHES AT ALL IN 
THE DATABASE.


3)  Did you explore the parameter space to attempt to improve the
    sensitivity of your BLAZE searches (i.e. vary the PAM matrix, 
    gap penalty and gap extension penalty)?  If so was the improvement 
    from your parameter search noticeable?

EXPLORED PARAMETER SPACE		= 9
FOUND NOTICABLE IMPROVEMENTS		= 5
FOUND NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES	= 3*

*2 OF THE 3 RESPONDEES WHO REPORTED NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES FROM VARYING
THE SEARCH
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From: Roberts_D@BMS.COM (Dan Roberts)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Helical Wheel Prg. wanted
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Does anyone know where I could get a program that would perform a helical
wheel plot??.  I would prefer a MAC based prg, as my access to an IBM is
limited..Thanks!!!..Dan

Dan Roberts
BRISTOL-MYERS-SQUIBB PHARM. RES. CENTER
Cardio-Vascular Biochem Dept.
PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY U.S.A. PLANET EARTH, MILKY-WAY GALAXY
<<<<INTERNET ADDRESS>>>>Roberts_D@BMS.COM

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From: kurtm@leland.Stanford.EDU (kurt mitchener)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: continuous performance task software request
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Hello,
I'd like to run a visual continuous performance task (CPT) 
in order to test a population of subjects with schizophrenia.
I'm looking for either a share ware or low-cost, computer-run
version that takes about 10 to 15 minutes to run, has been 
validated in samples of schizophrenic patients and (here's the 
clincher) can run on both the Mac and IBM platforms.
Has anyone heard of such a monster in existence?
A million thanks in advance,
-Kurt

please email responses
-- 
Kurt D. Mitchener		email: kurtm@cardinal.stanford.edu
Stanford University 		voice: (415) 493-5000 x5899
Stanford, CA 94305 USA		fax:   (415) 493-4901

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Subject: Availability of PIR ATLAS CD-ROM
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                ATLAS of Protein and Genomic Sequences CD-ROM

The new release of the ATLAS of Protein and Genomic Sequences CD-ROM is now
available for distribution.

The ATLAS CD contains the most up-to-date versions of the PIR-International
Protein Sequence Database (release 36.00, the most comprehensive and complete
protein sequence database available) and the GenBank Sequence Data Bank
(release 75.0, supplemented with the weekly GenBank new data entries).  Once
again the Protein Sequence Database increased by more than 10% since the last
release and is nearly double the size of release 25 of the Swiss-Prot database.
In conjunction with the MIPS PATCHX data set (assembled from a collection of
other public domain protein sequence databases and also included on the
CD-ROM), the Protein Sequence Database provides the most complete collection of
protein sequence data currently available in the public domain.  This release
of the PIR-International Protein Sequence Database is comprehensively
cross-referenced to the MedLine abstracts by the MedLine Unique Identifier
(MUID) and contains cross-references to the Genome Data Base (GDB) of the Welch
Medical Library at the Johns Hopkins University.

Also provided on the CD-ROM are: release 12.00 of NRL_3D Structure-Function
Database, release 4.0 of the PIR Alignment Database, and the March 1993 release
of the JIPID ECOLI (Escherichia coli) Nucleic Acid Sequence Database.  The
NRL_3D Database is a protein sequence database extracted from the Brookhaven
Protein Data Bank (PDB) coordinate data files; it provides an interface between
the Protein Sequence Database and the PDB and provides access to the PDB data
via computerized sequence searching and comparison methods.  The ALN database
provides a set of multiple sequence alignments of closely related protein
sequences from the PIR-International Protein Sequence Database.  The ECOLI
Nucleic Acid Sequence Database is a comprehensive, nonredundant, fully merged
(all recognized contigs are assembled into single sequence segments), and
annotated Escherichia coli genomic sequence database.  All entries in this
dataset are directly linked to the corresponding protein sequence products in
the PIR-International Protein Sequence Database.

All data on the ATLAS CD are represented in ASCII files that can be read
directly by any computer system that supports the ISO 9660 CD-ROM standard.
The sequence data files are in the NBRF format that can be accessed by a wide
variety of sequence analysis software, including the GenePro software by
Riverside Scientific, the Genetics Computer Group (GCG) package, the FASTA
series of database searching programs by William Pearson of the University of
Viginia, and any software using the READSEQ subroutines by Don G. Gilbert of
Indiana University.

Included on the ATLAS CD-ROM is the ATLAS Information Retrieval program that
provides direct and simultaneous retrieval from all of the databases on the
CD-ROM.  This program was recently featured on the CD-ROM produced in
cooperation with the journal Protein Science and the Protein Society.  In this
release of the ATLAS CD-ROM, versions of the ATLAS program are provided for
PC-DOS, VMS (VAX and alpha), and DEC(RISC) ULTRIX operating systems.  Support
will be added for SunOS and MacIntosh systems in the near future.

The ATLAS program provides an effective alternative to the Entrez program of
the National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI).  The ATLAS program
is designed on the principle that the sequence database annotations (protein
names, superfamily names, organism names, gene names, keywords, feature
descriptions, author's names, etc.) provide meaningful, biological information
that can be used to query the database directly.  These data provide direct
links between the nucleic acid and protein sequence database entries and
entries in other specialized data sets.  The ATLAS program provides an
environment where data entries from various databases can be linked dynamically
by simultaneous retrieval on these biological and bibliographic descriptors.

The program presents a command interface modeled on the DEC Command Language
(DCL) of the VMS operating system.  The "command/modifier" interface recognizes
truncated versions of the commands and modifiers.  The ATLAS command language
is similar to that employed in the NBRF PSQ and NAQ programs.  Those familiar
with these systems will experience very little difficulty in adapting to this
new program.  A menu interface is provided for PC-DOS systems.  A complete and
comprehensive Installation and User's Guide is provided on the CD-ROM and the
ATLAS program itself contains an integrated help facility.

ATLAS allows simultaneous retrieval on any selected subset (or all) of the
databases on the CD-ROM.  The user may select any combination of fields to
query on.  For example, a single query command will allow retrieval on the
TITLE and KEYWORDS fields of the GenBank and PIR-International databases. 
Queries can be refined by Boolean combination of sequential database queries. 
Queries are evaluated by an efficient substring searching algorithm.  For
example, a search on the term "globin" will retrieve the complete set of
hemoglobin, leghemoglobin, alpha-globin, beta-globin, myoglobin, and various
other globin and globin-like sequences.  This logic alleviates difficulties
resulting from usage of varying or nonstandard biological terminology within
the different databases. 

The ATLAS CD-ROM also contains specially configured versions of the FASTA and
TFASTA programs that allow the sequence databases on the CD-ROM to be searched
(by sequence) directly.  These programs will execute on PC-DOS, VAX/VMS, and
DEC ULTRIX systems.

Orders for the ATLAS CD-ROM are accepted, without prepayment, by FAX or E-mail.
For further information in the US and the Americas, please contact:

                Kathryn Sidman, Technical Services Coordinator
                      Protein Information Resource (PIR)
                National Biomedical Research Foundation (NBRF)
                           3900 Reservoir Rd., NW
                              Washington DC 20007
                             FAX: (202) 687-1662
                            phone: (202) 687-2121
                     E-mail: PIRMAIL@nbrf.georgetown.edu
                             PIRMAIL@gunbrf.bitnet

In Europe contact:

              Martinsried Institute for Protein Sequences (MIPS)
                    Max-Planck-Institute for Biochemistry
                          8033 Martinsried, Germany
                             FAX:  49 89 8578 2655
                            phone: 49 89 8578 2657
                   E-mail: mewes@ehpmic.mips.biochem.mpg.de

In Asia and Oceania contact:

           Japan International Protein Information Database (JIPID)
                         Science University of Tokyo
                        2669 Yamazaki, Noda 278 Japan
                             FAX:  81 47 122 1544 
                            phone: 81 48 124 1501
                       E-mail: Tsugita@JPNSUT31.BITNET

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Subject: Re: Conway's Life
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In article <lwalsh.736626655@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, lwalsh@nemo (Laura L.
Walsh) wrote:
> 
> I am looking for the Game of Life, specifically one
> that will run on a Macintosh.  I have tried using
> archie, but I am not sure of the exact title of the
> game and I couldn't find what I thought was the
> correct software.  I know someone said there was
> an After Dark module by that name, but I want to 
> use this software in a course, and I don't think the
> AD module would be usable in that manner.
> Laura Walsh

I have something called LifeLab, which came along with my copy of OzTeX. If
you can't find anything on archie under this name, drop me a line, and I
will binhex it and e-mail it to you. It is, BTW, one of the best
implementations I have seen, with an amazing collection of predefined
patterns.

 ===> James Petts <===

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    do is shut up.                                     -- Tom Lehrer
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed May 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!warwick!warwick!not-for-mail
From: lsren@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr D J Plows)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Protein analysis software.
Message-ID: <1sbgpjINNt93@violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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		I was just wondering if anyone knows of some shareware
(or other) software that allows analysis of protein sequence, such as 
hydropathy plots etc. Also the program should allow me to export the
data (image) to another graphics package such as Freelance Graphics.

		thanks

		Dave

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed May 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!enterpoop.mit.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!gatekeeper.es.dupont.com!esds01.es.dupont.com!MOLDOVBJ@esvx12.es.dupont.com
From: moldovbj@esvx12.es.dupont.com
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Plaasmid maps
Message-ID: <1993May6.134850.13692@es.dupont.com>
Date: 6 May 93 13:48:50 GMT
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I am looking for software that will produce graphical maps of plasmid
constructs for the IBM, similar to that from DNA Strider for the Mac. 
Is there anything out there, either shareware or commercial, that has
the ability to draw maps, do restriction digests, cut-and-paste fragments,
etc?
Moldovbj@esvax.dnet.dupont.com

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed May 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!NET.BIO.NET!kristoff
From: kristoff@NET.BIO.NET (Dave Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: bio-soft mailing list problem
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The mailing list file for the BIO-SOFTWARE group at net.bio.net was
apparently accidentally corrupted a few days ago.  I had a copy
retrieved from tape.  If you unsubscribed from this group recently and
get this message by e-mail, please contact biosci@net.bio.net and
request to be removed from the list again.  Sorry for the
inconvenience.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				kristoff@net.bio.net

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed May 05 23:00:00 1993
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From: tung@paaiec.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Articles on software applications in biotech
Message-ID: <1993May6.223309.2489@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>
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I am looking for articles which give an introductory overview 
on how software has been used and will be used in the biotech industry.
I am from software background and do not know much about biotech,
so anything which can give me a better "feel" about the different
aspects and opportunities in this industry will help. 
Looking forward to your suggestions.
Thank you in advance. 

(PS: if there is a better place to post this request, please let me know)

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed May 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!welchgate.welch.jhu.edu!danj
From: danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Dan Jacobson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Helical Wheel Prg. wanted
Message-ID: <1993May6.215900.8001@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu>
Date: 6 May 93 21:59:00 GMT
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In article <Roberts_D-060593153516@riversend.bms.com> Roberts_D@BMS.COM (Dan Roberts) writes:
>Does anyone know where I could get a program that would perform a helical
>wheel plot??.  I would prefer a MAC based prg, as my access to an IBM is
>limited..Thanks!!!..Dan


If you can wrangle access to a PC you might want to take a look at
Prograph which does this and much more.

For the Mac there is the PLOTA series of programs:

PLOTA_AADATA.HQX        Sequence editor                 
PLOTA_DOT.HQX           Dot matrix comparison            
PLOTA_GGR.HQX           Secondary structure prediction    
PLOTA_GOR.HQX           Secondary structure prediction     
PLOTA_HEL.HQX           Helical wheel                  <-----------     
PLOTA_HYD.HQX           Hydropathy analysis                  
PLOTA_HYD5.HQX          Hydropathy analysis (averaging)       
PLOTA_KAS.HQX           Chain flexibility and antigenicity     
PLOTA_KKD.HQX           Prediction of membrane spanning regions 
PLOTA_POW.HQX           Power spectrum plot     
PLOTA_SIG.HQX           Signal peptide prediction
PLOTA_SIM.HQX           Dissimilarity plot        
PLOTA_TMH.HQX           Hydrophobic moment analysis

You can get both by anonymous ftp or gopher from felix.embl-heidelberg.de

Best of luck,

Dan Jacobson

danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed May 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!BDT.FTPT.BR!adriano
From: adriano@BDT.FTPT.BR (Adriano Cesar da Silva)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Bacterial Identif.Software
Message-ID: <9305061751.AA06644@sabia.ftpt.br>
Date: 6 May 93 14:51:15 GMT
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Dear Everybody,

I am a microbiology student working here on information systems and I'd
like to get hold of software for bacterial identification for the PC. At
FTPT bacteria are identified by traditional methods of simple
morphological and biochemical tests (eg. assimilation/fermentation of
sugars). I would like software which performs identifications with these
data, using a database which is supplied with the software. However, I'm
not having much luck in finding appropriate software!

I have already looked at systems such as GDE, Montanus and Delta which
are more concerned with constructing taxonomic keys. Other software are
concerned with numerical analysis of data (eg. PC Taxon). One software
which seemed promising was MICRID, but the version I have is rather old
and incomplete (ca. 1985).

Any suggestions?

Thank you for your attention

Campinas, 06/05/93   15:00 pm

-- 

Adriano Cesar da Silva           adriano@bdt.ftpt.br
Fundacao "Andre Tosello"         tel: +55 192 42 7022
Base de Dados Tropical - BDT     fax: +55 192 42 7827

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!welchgate.welch.jhu.edu!danj
From: danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Dan Jacobson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: PROGRAPH  Program Description??
Message-ID: <1993May7.232040.29264@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu>
Date: 7 May 93 23:20:40 GMT
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In article <Roberts_D-070593105233@riversend.bms.com> Roberts_D@BMS.COM (Dan Roberts) writes:
>Does anyone out there have a description of the IBM platform PROGRAPH
>program that they could send me??..Thanks...:-)..Dan
>

This is a clip from the (extensive) documentation that comes
with prograph.  Note this is a little out of date - there's newer
docs that come with the present version.


Best of luck,

Dan Jacobson

danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu

----------------------------------------------------------



A graphical protein analysis tool


V 1.3    October 1991


A.      What is PROFILEGRAPH
PROFILEGRAPH is a public-domain program for helping with the analysis of
protein sequences. It does so by plotting profiles of the sequence to the
screen or to various output devices. These profiles are derived from the
sequence by application of amino-acid specific parameters, a well known
example for such a profile is the hydrophobicity plot.
One of my main concerns in writing PROFILEGRAPH was to include a lot of
options for influencing the calculation of the profile and to make
PROFILEGRAPH able to do everything that is possible with such profiles.
Of course this goal was not achieved in many ways, but I hope the
features I did implement are a reasonable subset of all possible ones.
Another main concern besides making PROFILEGRAPH as flexible as possible
was to make it comfortable and relatively fast. One obvious reason for
including a comfortable user-interface is that such a program is more fun
to work with. Another reason is that all the nice options I included
would almost never be used if they were hidden behind cryptic command
line options or the like.
I hope that by providing a sufficiently fast and easy interface the
usefulness of the program will be improved and that even some less
obvious profile analyses will be carried out which are likely to give no

show something unexpected (and I believe that the unexpected features are
the most interesting ones).

For a first introduction and a short guided tour through the menus of
PROFILEGRAPH, read chapter E.  of this file.
For a more detailed description of each menu-choice, please read chapter
D. of this documentation.

If you like to contact me, feel free to do so, my address is:

          Kay Oliver Hofmann
          Institut fuer Biochemie (med. Fak.)
          Universitaet Koeln
          Joseph Stelzmann Str. 52
          D-5000 Koeln 41 (West Germany)

        Tel +49 221 478-6980
        Fax +49 221 478-6979
        INTERNET: khofmann@cipvax.biolan.uni-koeln.de

I am extremely interested in bug reports, suggestions for future
versions, proposed modifications of PROFILEGRAPH or any other comments.
B. Hardware and software requirements
Because PROFILEGRAPH works fully in graphics mode, a graphics adapter in
combination with an appropriate monitor is required. Almost any available
adapter type is supported. The program has been written in TURBO PASCALTM
and it uses the BORLAND GRAPHICS INTERFACETM. Therefore the correct .BGI-
graphics driver must be present. Driver files for hercules, EGA, VGA and
SVGA adapters are supplied together with the executables of PROFILEGRAPH.
A complete set of drivers is shipped with newer versions of all TURBO-
languages from BORLAND.
A high-resolution color graphics adapter is highly desirable but hercules
graphics will also do. There is a problem with CGA-graphics where some

A most critical feature of PROFILEGRAPH V1.3 is that use of a mouse is
highly recommended. (See chapter D.) The executable files run only with a
MICROSOFTTM compatible mouse if there is an appropriate mouse-driver
installed. If you plan to recompile the sources, it will be easy to
replace the unit MOUSE by another one supporting other rodents like
MOUSE-SYSTEMSTM mice etc.
The memory requirements are not clearly defined because the program makes
extensive use of dynamically allocated memory. I only tried running the
program on ATs with more than 640kB, it is possible that less memory is
also sufficient when using a low-resolution graphics card. Extended or
expanded memory is supported only for overlay management at the moment.
The program is suited for running under MS-WINDOWS as a non-windows
application. I have tested it with WINDOWS 3.0, corresponding PIF and ICO
files are provided with the executables of PROFILEGRAPH.
Running PROFILEGRAPH under WINDOWS offers the advantage of cutting and
pasting to the clipboard and, of course, switching between multiple
applications.
In the executable version of PROFILEGRAPH V1.3, a numerical coprocessor
is not supported. If you recompile the pascal sources, it will be most
easy to switch on a compiler option to include 80x87-code.
I you like to recompile the program, you need a current version of the
TURBO-PASCAL compiler. The executables distributed have been compiled by
release 5.5 of the compiler, in contrast to the previous release, TP5.5
specific code is used.
C. Installation
The release version V1.3 of PROFILEGRAPH consist of the following files:

executable section:
- PG_READ .ME       last minute informations
- PROGRAPH.EXE      the main program
- PROGRAPH.TAB      the startup amino-acid parameter table
-     *   .TAB      perhaps some additional tables
- PROGRAPH.ANA      standard analysis file

- PROGRAPH.ICO      Icon file for use with MS-WINDOWS 3.0
- PG256   .CFG      demo configuration file for 256 color SVGA
- PG16S   .CFG      demo configuration file for 16 color SVGA
- PG16    .CFG      demo configuration file for 16 color EGA/VGA
- PG2     .CFG      demo configuration file for b/w
-     *   .BGI      graphics drivers (copyright BORLAND)
- SVGABGI .ZIP      SVGA drivers (copyright Jordan Hargrave)
- MYPR$HUM.DAT      test sequence file in UWGCG-format
- TPGLVIEW.EXE      TPGL file viewer
- TPGLTOPS.EXE      TPGL to POSTSCRIPTTM - Converter
- TPGLPRT .BAT      needed for 'special print' feature

documentation section
- PG_READ .ME       last minute informations
- PGDOC   .TXT      documentation in ASCII-format
- PGDOC   .DOC      documentation in MS-WinWord format
- PGDOC   .PS       documentation in POSTSCRIPTTM format
- PG_PAPER.DOC      paper decribing PROFILEGRAPH in MS-WinWord format

source code section:
- PG_READ .ME       last minute informations
- PROGRAPH.PAS      the main program
- PG_TYPE .PAS      type declaration unit
- PG_INIT .PAS      variable initialization unit
- PG_CALC .PAS      calculation unit
- PG_WHEEL.PAS      helical wheel unit
- POPUP   .PAS      pop-up menu unit
- POPAPP  .PAS      pop-up menu applications unit
- GRUTIL  .PAS      graphics utility unit
- FILUTIL .PAS      file utility unit
- OVR_INIT.PAS      overlay initialization unit
- SEQ     .PAS      sequence utility unit
- HCOPY   .PAS      hard copy utility unit

- TPGL    .PAS      TPGL-creation unit
- UREADSEQ.PAS      Don Gilbert's READSEQ unit (converted for
                    use with TP5)
- TPGLVIEW.PAS      TPGL file viewer
- TPGLTOPS.PAS      TPGL to POSTSCRIPTTM converter
                                                                      


And much more - this is just the start...

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!buzz.bmc.uu.se!corax.udac.uu.se!sunic!trane.uninett.no!nntp.uio.no!biomaster.uio.no!rodrigol
From: rodrigol@biomaster.uio.no (Rodrigo Lopez)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Secondary Structure Prediction
Message-ID: <1sdkch$o1v@hermod.uio.no>
Date: 7 May 93 12:23:45 GMT
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In article <1993May7.104359.11697@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>, LYNDON@BMS-UNIT.ICR.AC.UK writes:
|> Does anybody know of any shareware programs to predict the secondary
|> structure of a proteim given its primary amino acid sequence and where
|> to obtain such a program?
|>  
|> Thanks in advance
|>  
|> Lyndon

I would suggest you send an e-mail message to :
predictprotein@embl-heidelberg.de with the word
HELP as subject. You will recieve information
on how to submitt your sequence to the predict
protein server.


-- 
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!lhc!ray!dab
From: dab@ray.nlm.nih.gov (Dennis Benson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: VAX/VMS & NCBI's _Entrez_: text interface desired
Message-ID: <1993May7.200627.28100@nlm.nih.gov>
Date: 7 May 93 20:06:27 GMT
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THOMPSON@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU (Steve Thompson: VADMS genetics) writes:
: Greetings BioNetLanders -
: 
: From all I can gather (using Gopher and USENET) NCBI's _Entrez_ system can only
: run on a VMS system if Motif and some type of windowing environment is
: utilized.  _Entrez_ is tremendously powerful with its "neighboring" and "hard
: link" concepts and could prove invaluable to many users on our campus if they
: had access to it.  No other system so painlessly merges the information
: available in Medline to sequence data.  The probability of getting many
: separate laboratories to purchase both the _Entrez_ CD's and CD readers for
: their own machines is nil.  Therefore, we desire to place the system on a
: distributed platform that all users could equally access.  In our case that
: limits our choice to VAX/VMS.  Our system already has the necessary CD readers
: and network connections.  Yet few of our users have X-window server software on
: their machines, furthermore, many of our users ONLY have access to text or at
: most Tek graphics terminals.  Has anybody developed a text only interface to
: _Entrez_ ?!  The potential application of such an interface in enormous.  I
: would imagine that if one were developed, the demand would be substantial.
: 
: Call to software developers!  Please heed this need to make NCBI's _Entrez_
: system accessible to ALL biologists, not just those chosen few with seemingly
: bottomless computing resource budgets!
: 
: 
:                               Steven M. Thompson
:             Consultant in Molecular Genetics and Sequence Analysis
: VADMS (Visualization, Analysis & Design in the Molecular Sciences) Laboratory
:            Washington State University, Pullman, WA 99164-1224, USA
:           AT&Tnet:  (509) 335-0533 or 335-3179  FAX:  (509) 335-0540
:                   BITnet:  THOMPSON@WSUVMS1 or STEVET@WSUVM1
:                    INTERnet:  THOMPSON@wsuvms1.csc.wsu.edu
: 

Steven -- NCBI is in the testing stages of a network version of Entrez - there
are clients for Macs and PCs (as well as Unix and VMS) in this version, so
that may offer an alternative to setting up a local version.  If you're
interested in testing network Entrez, send a message to:
                        net-info@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You may also be interested in a text only interface to Entrez that was done
by Alex Reisner's group in Australia:  reisner@angis.su.oz.au

Regards,
Dennis Benson
NCBI

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: khofmann@biomed.biolan.uni-koeln.de
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Protein analysis software.
Message-ID: <1sdvfnINNd3m@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE>
Date: 7 May 93 15:33:11 GMT
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In article <1sbgpjINNt93@violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, lsren@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr D J Plows) writes:
>		I was just wondering if anyone knows of some shareware
>(or other) software that allows analysis of protein sequence, such as 
>hydropathy plots etc. Also the program should allow me to export the
>data (image) to another graphics package such as Freelance Graphics.
>		thanks
>		Dave

You could try ProfileGraph (aka PROGRAPH) which is available by FTP
from biomed.biolan.uni-koeln.de or from ftp.emb-heidelberg.de

It is possible to export the data various numerical formats to an ASCII file
that can be imported by all spreadsheet-type programs i know of.

Best regards,
                kay

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!mdale
From: mdale@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael L Dale)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: >>Wanted: Computerized Plant Key<<
Message-ID: <1se6hl$gl0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: 7 May 93 17:33:41 GMT
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I have been seaking a plant key (dos-based) for quite a
long time.  Any help or direction you could give me would
be appreciated.

Thanx!


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Vivo procerus et adiuvo -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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| The Ohio State University                                     |
| 2003 Millikin Road            mdale@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | 
| Columbus,  Ohio 43210                                         | 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Pax et vivo habito-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!uunet!mcsun!sunic!news.lth.se!news.lu.se!macservenius.wblab.lu.se!Bo.Servenius
From: Bo.Servenius@wblab.lu.se (Bo Servenius)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Program to calculate Tm for oligo with Inosin???
Message-ID: <1993May7.130251.10779@nomina.lu.se>
Date: 7 May 93 13:02:51 GMT
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Dear Netters:

We are trying to find a program that can calculate Tm values
for oligos containing inosin. I have checked out Dataminder
but it does not seem to understand other characters than ACGT.
We are using macintosh computers.

Any tip would be highly appreciated

BOSSE

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!uknet!edcastle!sss
From: sss@castle.ed.ac.uk (S S Sturrock)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Parallel Processors/Algorithms (Summary)
Message-ID: <35398@castle.ed.ac.uk>
Date: 7 May 93 12:56:29 GMT
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In article <1sar9sINNlml@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk> mbpcr@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (A. Parsons) writes:

Sheesh Tony!  You have been listening! :-)
>
>begin ;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>From: S S Sturrock <sss@uk.ac.ed.castle>
>Early Correspondence from Shane Sturrock (author of Mpsrch)

Very early so I figure I better correct a few points here and there.
>
>Well, MPsrch will arrive on a MasPar at Harrow (HGMP-RC) probably in the
>next week or so, they will also be evaluating BLAZE.  The EMBL installation

The Harrow installation is about to be removed, for various reasons neither
Blaze or MPsrch seemed to get much use.

>is waiting on good network connections and an upgrade of the OS on their
>machine since that MasPar was supplied by DEC.

Well, as most of you should know the installation has been up and running
since Feb and in that time nearly 3000 searches have been run, not bad.
Comments about only swiss-prot being offered have been passed on and I have
installed the latest code for both proteins *AND* nucleic acid searches but
there needs to be some work done at the Heidelberg end now to offer this
new code but then the EMBL na database will be available.

>Performance wise, MPsrch is about two and a bit times quicker, performance
>of BLAZE is about 55 million cell updates a second compared with 130

The gap has widened as expected.  MPsrch performs 202 million cell updates
per second now (Version 1.5) and MPsrch_na performs just under 400 million
per sec, note that these performances are for 4K PEs.  They scale linearly
with processor numbers.

>million on MPsrch.  More to the point though, although BLAZE is a Smith
>Waterman on the MasPar the reconstruction is by FASTDB, a word based method

I think in this case my info was not quite right, I was informed that the
alignments were full Smith/Waterman alignments later on, it still struck me
as being strange that the alignment scores didn't always agree with the search,
this I am assured has been fixed.

>which is supposedly fast but does not guarantee to get the same alignment
>as the MasPar, certainly the scores would not agree, the score is the one
>reported by the S/W algorithm, the alignment is FASTDB.  On MPsrch, the
>reconstruction is also by full S/W and still manages to be about 10x

Reconstruction is faster now, and I have increased the maximum size of
alignments to 65000 bp for nucleic acids.

>What you may be interested in is that the smallest MasPar machine is now
>only 55K pounds including the workstation host, this gives you a 1024
>processor MasPar box with MP1 processors, upgradable to 4096 processors,
>either MP1 or MP2 (which would give over 26000 mips + 6 gigaflops) without

6 gigs and is achieved with 16K PE MP2 configuration, the 4K PE set up will
get 1.5 gigs, still not bad for a small box.

>to go for anything else, and on the minimum configuration you will still
>get 40 million cell updates a second at the moment, but should be much more

For the smallest machine you now get 50 million for protein and 100 million
for NA.

>after I come back from California, basically you will get better

Had a good time, made some definite improvements particularly losing some
of the cost of database loading and other neat tricks.

>performance than BLAZE on a far cheaper machine.  Too good to be true?

True.

>ko61fr@genius.embnet.dkfz-heidelberg.de
>Newsgroups: bionet.software
>Organization: DKFZ Heidelberg
>Cc: 
>Status: R
>
>I have been using BLAZE as long as it was freely available, and I felt the
>big disadvantage with this service was that you could not get an alignment
>of your query sequence to the hits. BLITZ (which is Mpsrch) includes alignments
>(in fact you can choose what you want, hits and/or alignments) and is
>therfore my preferred choice. The only problem I have with the BLITZ alignments
>is that sometimes single residues are aligned (i.e. a single residue with gaps
>on both sides); structurally this seems nonsense to me, but this is a minor
>problem

I am assuming it is a problem of this sort:

          ** . *.   .* * *..   * . *.**.. .. * . .  . .*  * .  * *.* *
Db     64 RFVASDRLNDDAKAKFLNKLFYATVDITDPTQFGKLAD-LCGPVEK-GI-A--I-YLSTA 117
Qy     64 RF-TDDQ--AQAEA-FIEHFSYRAHDVTDAASYAVLKEAIEEAADKFDIDGNRIFYMSVA 119

Here the Alanine and Isoleucine are floating with gaps on either side, this
is an unfortunate effect of the algorithm and the scoring, I am looking
into correcting this at the moment.

The aligner for proteins and nucleic acids will prevent obvious problems of
the kind I described earlier where compound indels (gaps) are kept to a
minimum but this requires that the score remains the same (ie best that the
algorithm allows) and in the above case, if you want to join the GIAI
sequence to get one gap the score gets lower so I don't do it for now.
Modified penalties (such as affine gaps) will possibly be added as long as
it can be done without too much performance loss, where there's a will
etc.

>I did not attempt to compare the BLAZE and BLITZ results systematically,
>because of the missing alignments.

This is a problem (with Blaze, supposed to be fixed).
>
>I'm also interested in this area.  You may have more luck posting to
>the comp.parallel newsgroup.  I do know that several people are
>working in this area.  I recall something on the Thinking Machines
>CM-5 (and possible an older version on the CM-2).  There are also

The best performance I have heard of for the CM-5 is 30 million on a 32
node CM-5, you would thus need 400+ nodes to compete with a 4K PE MasPar.

Work I did on the CM-200 showed that it was not really suitable for high
mip requirement tasks like sequence analysis, never really managed to get
over 20 million on 16K PEs.  Mind you, I never ventured out of using C* on
that machine, with the MasPar assembly is so easy that you can make some
really significant gains of compiled C code. (Factor of 3 for MPsrch_na)

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>From: Michael McKenna <MCKMICP@Edu.Yale.YCC.YaleVM> writes

>identity, but MPsrch identified related molecules
>where FASTA, BLAST, Blaze, and BLOCKS failed.

Nice :-)



-- 
 \.    That is biological Captain!    | Shane Sturrock, BRU, Darwin Building,
(}:-(       -- Mr Sturrock            | University of Edinburgh, Scotland,
 /'                                   | Untied Kingdom (Split now!) :-)

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: THOMPSON@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU ("Steve Thompson: VADMS genetics")
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: VAX/VMS & NCBI's _Entrez_: text interface desired
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Greetings BioNetLanders -

From all I can gather (using Gopher and USENET) NCBI's _Entrez_ system can only
run on a VMS system if Motif and some type of windowing environment is
utilized.  _Entrez_ is tremendously powerful with its "neighboring" and "hard
link" concepts and could prove invaluable to many users on our campus if they
had access to it.  No other system so painlessly merges the information
available in Medline to sequence data.  The probability of getting many
separate laboratories to purchase both the _Entrez_ CD's and CD readers for
their own machines is nil.  Therefore, we desire to place the system on a
distributed platform that all users could equally access.  In our case that
limits our choice to VAX/VMS.  Our system already has the necessary CD readers
and network connections.  Yet few of our users have X-window server software on
their machines, furthermore, many of our users ONLY have access to text or at
most Tek graphics terminals.  Has anybody developed a text only interface to
_Entrez_ ?!  The potential application of such an interface in enormous.  I
would imagine that if one were developed, the demand would be substantial.

Call to software developers!  Please heed this need to make NCBI's _Entrez_
system accessible to ALL biologists, not just those chosen few with seemingly
bottomless computing resource budgets!

					Thank you for the time, Steve T

                              Steven M. Thompson
            Consultant in Molecular Genetics and Sequence Analysis
VADMS (Visualization, Analysis & Design in the Molecular Sciences) Laboratory
           Washington State University, Pullman, WA 99164-1224, USA
          AT&Tnet:  (509) 335-0533 or 335-3179  FAX:  (509) 335-0540
                  BITnet:  THOMPSON@WSUVMS1 or STEVET@WSUVM1
                   INTERnet:  THOMPSON@wsuvms1.csc.wsu.edu


From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: LYNDON@BMS-UNIT.ICR.AC.UK
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Secondary Structure Prediction
Message-ID: <1993May7.104359.11697@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>
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Does anybody know of any shareware programs to predict the secondary
structure of a proteim given its primary amino acid sequence and where
to obtain such a program?
 
Thanks in advance
 
Lyndon

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: andrewh@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Hobbs)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Contig assembly program
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Hi, 

Forgive me if I am asking an FAQ.

Does anyone know of a public domain program (set of programs) akin to
the Staden set, to assemble sequences hot off the autoradiograph, into a
completed sequence, -  for MS DOS (or windows even).  

We have a commercial set from Amersham but it has this thing hanging
off the back of the computer without which it won't work.  It is
incredibly poorly behaved, rewriting the configuration files and then
requiring one to reboot the computer.  Finally now that we are networked
we find that it won't tolerate any extra cards in the extension slots. 
Finally, finally after trying to get it to work with other cards, it
won't work at all.!!!!!!!! :-(

I was thinking of the possibility of getting Staden's scource files (in
Fortran) and compiling (and possibly rewriting bits if necessary) on my
PC.  Has anyone tried this?  In the meantime does anyone know of a public
domain program as above.

Thanks in advance.

Andrew Hobbs
Dept of Biochemistry
University of Western Australia

andrewh@uniwa.uwa.edu.au

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: nEcho@NCSUmvs (Scott Knowles)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Bacteria Identification databases wanted
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BioNetters,
  I am looking for databases of results of various tests used to
  identify species/strains of bacteria.
    
  In a perfect world, this db would be organized by strain with
  each test-result assigned a value ranging from strong positive to
  strong negative.  Additionally, the db would be well documented and
  in the public domain.

  Does such a database exist?  Any tips or leads are appreciated.
    
  Scott Knowles  < nEcho@NCSUMVS >
  Toxicology NC State University
                     

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: Roberts_D@BMS.COM (Dan Roberts)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: PROGRAPH  Program Description??
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Does anyone out there have a description of the IBM platform PROGRAPH
program that they could send me??..Thanks...:-)..Dan

Dan Roberts
BRISTOL-MYERS-SQUIBB PHARM. RES. CENTER
Cardio-Vascular Biochem Dept.
PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY U.S.A. PLANET EARTH, MILKY-WAY GALAXY
<<<<INTERNET ADDRESS>>>>Roberts_D@BMS.COM

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu May 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: jip@helix.nih.gov (John Powell)
Newsgroups: bionet.software,bionet.computational
Subject: Pedigree drawing software/Genetic DB
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     We are planning to put medical data about families with genetic
     neurological diseases into a computerized database in order to
     facilitate quantitative and statistical studies.  The data will
     include detailed medical histories as well as more general biological
     data on individuals who are affected, are carriers, or are not
     affected.

     At present, we are planning to implement the database structure in
     Sybase on a Sun, but could change platforms or environment in order
     to incorporate software that already exists.  We are particularly
     interested in generating graphical images of pedigrees of families
     with disorders from some type of text output which could be generated
     by a standard relational database package. We are aware of several
     commerical programs as well as Pedraw.

     We are interested in communicating with anyone else who might
     have software for this type of use or be working in this area.

     Please respond via E-mail, we'll post a summary of responses to
     the net.

     Thanks in advance....

--
	John Powell 			phone: (301) 496-2963
	Building 12A, Room 2031		FAX: (301) 402-2867
	National Institutes of Health	uucp: uunet!jip%alw.nih.gov
	Bethesda, MD 20892		Internet: jip@alw.nih.gov

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri May 07 23:00:00 1993
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From: chlamy@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Harris)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Conway's Life
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Date: 7 May 93 15:23:29 GMT
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In article <zxmkr08.736694990@studserv>,
zxmkr08@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Cornelius Krasel) wrote:
> Sorry to post this on the net, but the return
> address of Laura is invalid (domain name missing).
> 


Laura, I tried to send you a private reply also, but my message bounced. 
Please send me a private message and I'll give you some more information.

Elizabeth Harris
chlamy@acpub.duke.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri May 07 23:00:00 1993
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From: miml@hippo.ru.ac.za (Malcolme Logie)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: PHOTOSYNTHESIS
Message-ID: <1993May8.140019.14129@hippo.ru.ac.za>
Date: 8 May 93 14:00:19 GMT
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Iam looking for infomation about building a chlorophyll fluorometer as
well as writting the software to run it. I have also written some other
software for the caluculation of photsynthetic parameters for infrared
gas analysis.

For more info. see my letter to BIONET.PHOTOSYNTHESIS

Thanks Malcolme





         MALCOLME LOGIE - Department Biochemistry & Microbiology 
   Rhodes Unversity, Grahamstown, 6140, RSA. Internet: miml@hippo.ru.ac.za.
               Telephone 0461 22023 x 441




 
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri May 07 23:00:00 1993
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From: reisner@angis.su.oz.au
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: VAX/VMS & NCBI's _Entrez_: text interface desired
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Jacq Smelt and Carolyn Bucholtz of ANGIS have developed a cursus based menu
system which interfaces with Entrez.  Virually all the functionality of the
GUI is available using it.  We have had it running here for several months
under SunOS 4.1.3.

   Written in ANSI C  it appears to run perfectly well with vt100
terminals or emulating softare.  We have no experience with trying to run it
under VAX/VMS but it oughtn't to be too difficult to port it.  Note that the
latest version of ENTEZ contains about 820 Mbytes (2 CD-ROMS).

        I would urge you not to try to run it from the CD-ROMS; we
immediately transfer the contents to a hard disc.  With a single user CD-ROMS
are acceptable but quite slow, on a multiuser system when simultaneously
accessed by two or more users they can become frustrating.  With Entrez now 
a multi CD utility I believe you would have very serious problems.

A compressed tar file of the source code has been deposited with NCBI and
is available via anonymous ftp from   ncbi.nlm.nih.gov  as
/entrez/e2d/entrez-2d.tar.Z

Alex Reisner

ANGIS (Aust. Nat. Genomic Information Service)

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri May 07 23:00:00 1993
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From: waverheu@vub.ac.be (Willy A Verheulpen)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Plaasmid maps
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In article <1993May6.134850.13692@es.dupont.com> moldovbj@esvx12.es.dupont.com writes:
>From: moldovbj@esvx12.es.dupont.com
>Subject: Plaasmid maps
>Date: 6 May 93 13:48:50 GMT

>I am looking for software that will produce graphical maps of plasmid
>constructs for the IBM, similar to that from DNA Strider for the Mac. 
>Is there anything out there, either shareware or commercial, that has
>the ability to draw maps, do restriction digests, cut-and-paste fragments,
>etc?
>Moldovbj@esvax.dnet.dupont.com
We use a program that is called "Clone" but it is a rather "old" version.
Contact me by e-mail if more info is needed !


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From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri May 07 23:00:00 1993
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From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Don't be too high-tech!!! Re: VAX/VMS & NCBI's _Entrez_: text interface desired
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In article <C6ons3.4G7@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, wrp@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Bill Pearson) writes:
|> In article <930507104042.214062a7@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU> THOMPSON@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU ("Steve Thompson: VADMS genetics") writes:
...
|> 
|> >Yet few of our users have X-window server software on their machines,
|> >furthermore, many of our users ONLY have access to text or at most
|> >Tek graphics terminals.
|> 
|> It is hard to believe that there are more terminals than Windows compatible
|> PC's at many universities today.
|> 
|> >Has anybody developed a text only interface to _Entrez_ ?!
|> 
|> No, nor should they.
|> 


It is reality that the current infrastructure in Universities is that 
workgroups of 5-15 persons have rarely access to Workstations or 
ethernetted environments. Some even use modems to access a vt100 type 
server. My surveys indicate that, in Switzerland, the number of 
users who currently have vt100 type serial access to molecular biology
computing is considerable and will stay considerable in the next 
years due to low economy -> shrinking budgets -> no money to recable
buildings. This is also true in most parts of Germany and other 
countries where I know the environments. 

Despite my believe that a GUI is what all biologists should have 
it is a severe mistake to neglect all non-X or non-ethernetted biologists. 
A certain fraction doesn't even have access to the central facility 
but need to walk (or even travel) to get to a place where a access point
is on the desktop. So lests behave as generous as possible and stick 
to also line-oriented interfaces. 
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From: wrp@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Bill Pearson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: VAX/VMS & NCBI's _Entrez_: text interface desired
Message-ID: <C6ons3.4G7@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: 8 May 93 00:52:50 GMT
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In article <930507104042.214062a7@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU> THOMPSON@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU ("Steve Thompson: VADMS genetics") writes:
>Greetings BioNetLanders -
>
>From all I can gather (using Gopher and USENET) NCBI's _Entrez_
>system can only run on a VMS system if Motif and some type of
>windowing environment is utilized.

Entrez will only run on a windowing system on any computer -MSWindows,
Mac, or X-windows.

>The probability of getting many separate laboratories to purchase
>both the _Entrez_ CD's and CD readers for their own machines is nil.
>Therefore, we desire to place the system on a distributed platform
>that all users could equally access.  In our case that limits our
>choice to VAX/VMS.  Our system already has the necessary CD readers
>and network connections.

	At most universities, a cost-effective system can be built
on a Novell Network server.  Often you will find that there is a server
available, in the library for example, and the only cost is the addition
of a 1 GB disk ($1500).  Even if you must purchase the server and software,
a it can be done for < $5000.  And, as Dennis Benson mentions, you can now
use Entrez via tcp/ip, without having the database on line at all.

>Yet few of our users have X-window server software on their machines,
>furthermore, many of our users ONLY have access to text or at most
>Tek graphics terminals.

It is hard to believe that there are more terminals than Windows compatible
PC's at many universities today.

>Has anybody developed a text only interface to _Entrez_ ?!

No, nor should they.

>The potential application of such an interface in enormous.  I would
>imagine that if one were developed, the demand would be substantial.

The beauty of Entrez is not only the database, it is also the user
interface. Anyone can start using entrez in a matter of minutes,
because of its excellent presentation.  With inexpensive network
servers and Windows (or Mac) machines available, it is very difficult
to justify the investment in a terminal based interface to Entrez, or
any other powerful windowed environment.  What you save in not
purchasing hardware, you easily spend in increased training and
decreased access.  While I am no believer in the propaganda that
Microsoft puts out about Windows productivity, in the case of Entrez,
the window system really increases the value.

Bill Pearson

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri May 07 23:00:00 1993
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From: SJJ@ICBR.IFAS.UFL.EDU ("JONG, SONG-MUH J")
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Protein structure display programs?
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Hi,

Many papers publish protein structures in three-dimensional forms
as ribbons shapes. Can anyone inform me which program is capable
of doing this structural display? The program preferably works on
PC, but MAC progams are fine too. Thanks for any input!

Song-Muh jong
sjj@icbr.ifas.ufl.edu


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Subject: Re: Don't be too high-tech!
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	With regard to the specific matter of access to Entrez via GUI or
non-GUI interfaces it needn't be a matter of one precluding the other.  ANGIS 
provides both.  Currently of the 1000 or so users of ANGIS in Australia about
20% have access to terminals, workstations, or personal computers that 
utilize the X Window System, to exclude the remaining 80% from on-line access
to Entrez I believe would be inappropriate for a national service.  Similarly
not to provide the GUI version to those able to make use of it would be 
derelict.

	Within the next 18-24 months we expect that the per-centage of users 
able to utilize the X Window System will rise to 75% or more.  An increasing 
number of databases and applications make use of the X Window System, I 
believe it is incumbent on ANGIS to provide for that;  so for example we
make ADeDB and other genomic databases based on ACeDB available on ANGIS and 
where there are applications utilizing the X Window System they are made 
available; where there are parallel X and non-X versions av