From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 01 23:00:00 1993
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From: msaul@uk.ac.crc (Dr. M.W. Saul)
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Subject: C code for srestriction enzyme search
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I am looking for some C code to do a simple search of sequences, preferably in 
GCG format, for resatriction sites. Optimally output should be of the sites
present and where the size of fragemets ents , but this is not so important. Can someone
help ? I have access via FTP, e-mail, gopher etc. to most of the main sites, but 
don't know where to stasrt :-(
Send info to m.saul@hud.ac.uk, or to the address on this message.
Thanks in advance,
Mike SAUL
Huddersfield University
W. Yorks
U.K.

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From: mbsau@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (M.W. Saul)
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Subject: Re: C code for srestriction enzyme search
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Sorry about all the ^H's in my posting I'll learn a bit more
before I post again. In the meantime I think my request was still
understandable?

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 01 23:00:00 1993
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From: pamaga@biobase.aau.dk (Paulo Magalhaes)
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Subject: A.L.F. - DNA Sequencer
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Hi!

This is not really a 'software' question, but I found no other group
which would be appropriate... So, bear with me a while.

We have recently acquired an 'ALF'. The software controlling the machine,
as well as the data analysis program, runs under OS/2. All the PCs in the lab
run DOS only or DOS/Windows - all except the one running ALF, of course.
All the computers are stand alone machines; i.e., our 'masters' still haven't
heard of things called LANs...

Anyway, on to the main point. As the workload on poor ALF keeps increasing,
we now need another PC which can lend a hand in the ALF-generated data
analysis. The idea was to acquire an EISA machine to act as a server, running
OS/2, where all the data files could be kept. This way both the present PC
running ALF and this new one could be used to control/manage data from the
sequencer.

Furthemore, the new machine would also become (in the nearby future!) the
server for all the other PCs in the lab - of course we still have to 
convince the brass to spend some money on the installation of the network,
but we feel that it's only a question of time...

Now for the really important part :)

What are the flaws in our reasoning?
Has anyone out there done the same - using the ALF/OS2 software, that is?
What kind of problems can we expect to face?
Keeping in mind the other PCs which will be added at a later date, what
do we need to hook up just the 2 running OS2?

Yes, we don't know so much about computers...
...but we're willing to learn!

Your opinions are most welcome.

All the best,

Paulo
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 01 23:00:00 1993
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From: PARSONS_A@uk.co.pcr.snd01
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Subject: Re: Neural Network programs for sequence analysis?
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In article <9308311856.AA03849@genetics.com> mcolbert@GENETICS.COM writes:
>Hello,
>
>I am looking for information on neural network packages that can be used for
>protein and nucleic acid sequence analysis.  Specifically, we have novel
>sequences and want to see what (if anything) they may be similar to within the 
>databases.  The colleague I am asking this question for has already run 
>traditional types of homology searches (blast,fasta) with not much success.  
>The profile analysis offered in the GCG package is more sensitive than a 
>traditional homology search, but creating a profile requires having multiple 
>sequences that you align and search with, and we have only one sequence at a
>time.  I have done some work with neural networks (very limited) so we
>thought we would at least ask around.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Maureen Colbert
>mcolbert@genetics.com

I know of two neural net applications ;-

Dmitrij Frishmann & Patrick Argos (1992)
"Recognition of distantly related protein sequences using conserved Motifs and 
 Neural Nets"

Jonathan Hirst & Michael Sternberg (1992)
"Evaluation of protein motif recognition by neural networks"

Both presented at "Genes, Proteins and Computers - 2nd International Conference
on Computing in Molecular Biology"  Chester (UK), September 1992

Frishmann at the time was at EMBL and a netfind shows him to be reachable as :

frishman@embl-heidelberg.de

also Argos can be mailed at:

argos@embl-heidelberg.de

I couldnt narrow down the icrf search theree are 27 domains at icrf - try
posting to postmaster@icrf.ac.uk they may be able to give you Hirst and Sternberg's
email addresses.

Bon Chance!

Tony P. (mbpcr@seqnet.dl.ac.uk AKA parsons_a@snd01.pcr.co.uk)

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 01 23:00:00 1993
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From: WAGNERF@BRUNB.BITNET (Wagner Fontes)
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Subject: Clustal (Gap penalty)
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Hi,

I'm trying to align peptides using Clustal V, but found a problem:
With a low gap penalty, to allow the peptide to be inserted anywhere
in the sequence, the software inserts long gaps IN the peptide.

Is there a way to increase the gap penalty only for the internal gaps,
allowing long gaps at the beginning and/or end of the sequence?

Thanks,

Wagner Fontes(WAGNERF@BRUNB.BITNET)
Brazilian Center of Protein Sequencing
Biochemistry and Protein Chemistry Lab.
University of Brasilia
Brasilia - Brazil





.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 01 23:00:00 1993
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From: kramer@mcbsgi.bio.sunysb.edu (joe kramer)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: SGI Protein analysis software
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I am looking for software that will allow me to do 
stadard analysis' (multiple alignment,  IIdary structure,
helical wheel, searches  etc.)  on an SGI Indigo. 
A primary concern is finding such a program that 
is easily implemented,  as I am a unix novice.


Thanks,
Joe Kramer
S.U.N.Y. Stony Brook
Dept. of Mol and Cell Bio
kramer@mcbsgi.bio.sunysb.edu
  

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From: williams@a.chem.upenn.edu (Scott A. Williams)
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Subject: Re: computer programming/data analysis
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>In article <1993Aug29.213231.5582@c-mols.siu.edu> shriver@qm.c-biochem.siu.edu writes:
>>We are in the middle of a discussion here concerning the pros and cons of
>>having graduate students in biochemistry and molecular biology take a
>>short course in computer programming and data analysis.  The molecular
>>biologists feel that this is an old fashioned requirement, while the
>>biophysicists feel that todays students are becoming less and less
>>acquainted with quantitative approaches.  I have been asked to determine
>>if any biochemistry or molecular biology graduate programs still require
>>their students to have been exposed to computer programming (in any
>>language) and data analysis.


	Definitely, and without question, take a computer programming
	course/numerical analysis course at some point.  I have background
	and degrees in both biochemistry and physical chemistry and both
	require these skills to various extents. I thought, while achieving
	my biochemistry degree,that I would not need the math skills.
	However, while tackling such problems as enzyme kinetics, 
	radiometric analysis and any kind of spectroscopy, I learned
	otherwise and ended up playing alot of "catchup". Also consider
	this, the world (like it or not) is all computers and even the 
	molecular biologists will need the computer graphics capabilities
	to do molecular modeling (requiring both math and computer skills)
	and sequence analysis/identification.


	-Scott

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 01 23:00:00 1993
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From: VWARWAR@CRCVMS.UNL.EDU (VITOR WARWAR)
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Subject: Postscript files?
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	Hi

	Is there a way to print a postscript file generated by GCG in
a dot matrix printer?

	Thanks you all
		Vitor Warwar

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 01 23:00:00 1993
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From: allen@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Allen Bartman)
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Subject: lab manager
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Does anyone know of a good lab manager?  Something that we can use to keep
track of strains, oligo, plasmids, etc.
thanks in advance.
al

allen@molbio.cbs.umn.edu

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Subject: ANTHEPROT: A package for protein sequence analysis
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				by
		       G.Deleage & C. Geourjon

      This is a general annoucement of the availability of ANTHEPROT  to all
academic  researchers. ANTHEPROT (ANalyze THE PROTeins) is a package to make
protein sequence analysis such as alignment, secondary structure predictions,
sites & function detection,  physico-chemical profiles,  homology search and
3D display of protein structures.   This program is now available either for
IBM  RISC 6000 workstations  or  IBM PC compatible microcomputers.  The main
feature  of  ANTHEPROT  is that it is fully interactive  within  a graphical
interface. No particular knowledge about  computers is  needed and any mole-
cular biologist is able to use it.

The main methods are:
	* Input, addition or modification of sequences (FASTA format).
	* Edition (graphic display of sequence, molecular weight,...).
	* Extraction of a sequence from databases (SWISSPROT).
	* Search for subsequences (with pattern matching approach).
	* Dot matrix plot (4 substitution matrix).
	* Secondary structure prediction (6 methods).
	* Profile analysis (Hydrophobicity, flexibility, solvant
	  accessibility, membrane spanning regions, antigenicity,...).
	* Amphiphilicity of secondary structure.
	* Prediction of the cleavage site of signal peptide.
	* Helical wheel projection.
	* Protein digestion and RP-HPLC simulations.
	* Circular dichroism spectra analysis.
	* Search for pattern of biological sites and functions (PROSITE).
	* Matrix profile analysis of blocks (BLOCKS.DAT).
	* Multiple alignment methods.
	* Fasta graphical interface.

IBM RISC 6000 version
=====================

       This version can be considered as a molecular graphic software that
is  very  useful  to  those  who  want to play with molecular modelling of
proteins. These graphic capabilities are combined with many powerful tools
to analyze a protein sequence and structure.
      The ANTHEPROT package is made of more than 71 submenus which account
for  about 30 different methods of protein sequence analysis. The complete
package represents:

			  50 000 lines of source code
			     500 subroutines
		      1 3000 000 octets of source code
		      2 6800 000 octets for the antheprot executable file

  Systems and materials
  ---------------------
	 ANTHEPROT can run on all IBM Risc 6000 computer equipped with a 3 D
graphic adapter (with or without Z buffer, 8 or 24 bits plane) with graPHIGS
libraries installed (libgP.a).
	 The perfect configuration :
IBM Risc 6000 (any model of CPU from 220 to 580) with at least 32 Mo of RAM),
valuators,  LPFK, 3 D+ graphic adapter with 24 bits plane + Z buffer or GT4x
and  GTO  graphic  cards.   About  160  Mo of disk place is needed since the
SWISSPROT and the NBRF/PIR protein sequence databases are also included.

Distribution support   : 150Mo streamer cartridge.

References:
	      C. Geourjon, G. Deleage and B. Roux
	      ANTHEPROT : An interactive graphic software for analyzing
	      protein structures from sequences.
	      J. Mol. Graph., 1991, 9, 188-190

	      Geourjon C., Deleage G.
	      Interactive and graphic coupling between multiple alignments,
	      secondary structure predictions and motif/pattern scanning
	      into proteins.
	      Comput. Appl. Biosci. 9:87-91(1993).

	      G. Deleage and C. Geourjon
	      An interactive graphic program for calculating secondary
	      structures content of proteins from circular dichroism spectrum.
	      CABIOS, 1993, 9, 197-199


IBM PC compatible version
=========================
       The methods are essentailly the same than in the RISC 6000 except for
the 3D  display module. ANTHEPROT works onto all 80x86 with x>=2 processors.
Math  coprocessor is fully supported.  The total  disk space needed is about
5Mo. It is supplied onto 2 HD (1.44Mo) disks. An automatic installation menu
is available by typing A:install The maximal graphic resolution supported is
VGA (640x480). The program can be fully mouse driven (Microsoft compatible).

Distribution support   : 2 MS-DOS fomatted HD disks (1.44Mo)

References:    G. Deleage, FF Clerc and B Roux
	       ANTHEPROT: IBM PC and Apple Macintosh versions.
	       CABIOS, (1989) 5, 159-160

	       G. Deleage, FF Clerc, B Roux and DC Gautheron
	       ANTHEPROT: A package for protein sequence analysis using a
	       microcomputer.
	       CABIOS, (1988) 5, 159-160

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 01 23:00:00 1993
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From: belzen@pa1.fgg.eur.nl (VAN BELZEN @ PA1)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: computer programming/data analysis
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In article <1993Aug29.213231.5582@c-mols.siu.edu> shriver@qm.c-biochem.siu.edu writes:
>We are in the middle of a discussion here concerning the pros and cons of
>having graduate students in biochemistry and molecular biology take a
>short course in computer programming and data analysis.  The molecular
>biologists feel that this is an old fashioned requirement, while the
>biophysicists feel that todays students are becoming less and less
>acquainted with quantitative approaches.  I have been asked to determine
>if any biochemistry or molecular biology graduate programs still require
>their students to have been exposed to computer programming (in any
>language) and data analysis.

I would strongly recommend a course in computer programming, preferably in 
a language that is easy to learn and remember like BASIC. The two weeks pre-
grad computer programming course I had on the ancient Apple II have been of 
great value to me. Even if students would never write a single line of code 
after the course, it would help them to get a feeling for the 
possibilities and limitations of computer software.

Nico van Belzen
 

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Subject: Re: MEGA: Mol. Evol. Analysis Program
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In article <9308272052.AA23967@mailgate.roche.com>, delisior@rnisd0.DNET.roche.com (Bob DeLisio) writes:
> "joe@evolution.u.washington.edu" "Joe Felsenstein" 27-AUG-1993 05:
>  writes:
> .
> .
> .
> <much stuff deleted>
> If anyone knows a way to send encoded binaries by e-mail and have people be
> able to make them self-extract without requiring tutorials from me on
> how to get and use decoding programs, I'd love to hear it (it sounds
> impossible to me).
> <much more stuff deleted>
> 
> Archives can be made (and have been for at least ten years!) to be self 
> extracting (read: executable or .EXE). All one has to do is type the filename 
> at the command line and VIOLA! all files are extracted automatically. Therefore
> anyone who can use DOS can extract an archive!
> 
> Bob
> 

Bob, this is clearly not what Joe was asking about.  Will you please wake up
before you spout off with what appears to you to be the most obvious reply? 
Clearly, Joe was asking about a way to make UUENCODED archives self-extracting
on the recipient's end.  You are way off on a tangent talking about how PKzip
and other fine compression utilities will make self-extracting archives, but
none of these have any relevance to encoded binaries.

I don't know of any way to automate the decoding of encoded binaries that will
be completely cross-platform compatable.  If all you are ever working with is
Unix boxes with the same shell as yourself you could provide a script for the
recipient to use, providing that they have access to a copy of uudecode on
their end.  Perhaps a more compatable Unix method would be to write something
in awk or perl, and hope that any PC users had gone out and FTPed awk and perl
for DOS already.  This is unacceptable.  What else is left?

Taking a hint from the alt.binaries groups, as well as comp.sys.hp48 you could
write a little startup guide including short BASIC and C source for uudecode,
and then provide in the file a more complete version of uudecode as well as
instructions on how to FTPmail the most recent version.  With this plan you
could then just send anyone who is having problems a copy of this file and ask
them to read it before they ask any more questions.  

Me, I'm strongly in favor of dumping large text files full of useful
information onto folks who need help.  *chuckle*

Dave

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Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Radioligand Binding Analysis Software WANTED
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In article <5695@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> pjg1@ukc.ac.uk (P.J.Gane) writes:
>
>I'm looking for PC-DOS based software for radioligand binding analysis.
>
>I know of a few commercial packages such as LIGAND, LOWRY and EBDA but really
>I would like to have this software as quickly as possible, and so I'm trying
>to find if anything like this exists on the (bio)NET.
>
>Anything which I can anon. ftp would be great.
>

There exists a public domain program for Scatchard analysis called 
RBINDING (if I remember correctly :-) written by Prof. Joop van Zoelen and 
myself. I don't know whether its on the net, being out of this field for 
several years now. I tried to contact Joop but he's on holiday. I'll ask if 
he still supports the program, and put it on the net if he agrees. 

For my own use, I ported the original LIGAND program from Munson and 
Rodbard to MS-DOS, a long time ago. It is terrible user-unfriendly, just as 
the Apple II version I ported it from, and would only be of use if you have 
the documentation, and some perseverance to master it. I wonder, however, 
where I stand legally with regard to distributing this program... could 
anybody enlighten me on this?

By the way, in addition to the MS-DOS versions, I wrote Atari ST ports of 
these programs. If there's any interest, please email me because I don't 
read this newsgroup regularly.

Best regards, Nico

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Subject: Searching a program to fit PDB molecules
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Hi net
I am searching for a program (Fortran or C) source code that allows two
molecules in PDB format to be fitted together.
Is somebody able to help me?
Thank you
Sincerely

Please answer directly to deleage@ibcp.fr

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!agate!ames!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!caen!lsa.umich.edu!usenet
From: Doug_Ee@um.cc.umich.edu (Doug Eernisse)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Clustal (Gap penalty)
Message-ID: <266lhk$231@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Date: 3 Sep 93 05:43:16 GMT
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In article <9309021947.AA01103@net.bio.net> Wagner Fontes, 
WAGNERF@BRUNB.BITNET writes:
>I'm trying to align peptides using Clustal V, but found a problem:
>With a low gap penalty, to allow the peptide to be inserted anywhere
>in the sequence, the software inserts long gaps IN the peptide.
>
>Is there a way to increase the gap penalty only for the internal gaps,
>allowing long gaps at the beginning and/or end of the sequence?

I think this is a general problem for multiple sequence alignments
in which the sequences are poorly conserved or contain missing
data near some of their ends. We need algorithms that allow anchoring 
of portions of the alignment. Is there a way you can artificially
make the ends more highly matching (temporarily) for the purpose
of matching the central portions, then remove the central portion
back to the unmodified alignment? This problem is why I have
never gotten very far with a nonmanual approach to aligning
mixtures of partial and complete 18S rRNA sequences.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!SCRIPPS.EDU!yagi2
From: yagi2@SCRIPPS.EDU (Akemi Yagi/BCR7 4-8094)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: (none)
Message-ID: <9309030123.AA03088@gcrc.scripps.edu>
Date: 3 Sep 93 01:23:23 GMT
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Hello,

I have a question regarding C programming on UNIX.  A call to the function
system() allows a program to execute a shell command.  However, system
invokes sh but not csh.  As a result it cannot execute a command which
is an alias defined in the .cshrc file.  So my question is as follows.
Suppose you are writing a program that lets the user enter a command
and if it is an alias how would you get the program to run it?  I would
appreciate any suggestion you may have.  Thank you.

Akemi

==============================================================================
  Akemi Yagi, Ph.D.	The Scripps Research Institute
			email: yagi2@scripps.edu
			phone: 619-554-2596 
==============================================================================


From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!bioftp.unibas.ch!comp.bioz.unibas.ch!doelz
From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <1993Sep3.062535.20446@comp.bioz.unibas.ch>
Date: 3 Sep 93 06:25:35 GMT
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In article <9309030123.AA03088@gcrc.scripps.edu>, yagi2@SCRIPPS.EDU (Akemi Yagi/BCR7 4-8094) writes:
...
|> I have a question regarding C programming on UNIX.  A call to the function
|> system() allows a program to execute a shell command.  However, system
|> invokes sh but not csh.  As a result it cannot execute a command which
...

======================test.c
#include "stdio.h"
main()
{ 
        char string[90]; 
        sprintf (string,"/bin/csh test.csh\n"); 
        printf (" Executing %s\n", string); 
        system(string); 
} 

======================test.csh 
#!/bin/csh

alias

====================


% test 
Executing /bin/csh test.csh

h       history
ls 	ls -C 



Be aware, in VMS it's a bit more tricky. 



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From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!daresbury!news
From: luwie@be.ac.rug.gengenp (Luc Van Wiemeersch)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: A.L.F. - DNA Sequencer
Message-ID: <1993Sep3.074635.14170@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>
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In our Lab. we have an ALF machine connected to a IBM PS/2 model 80
runnig OS/2 1.2 with the ALF software.
The IBM is integrated in our VINES (BANYAN) LAN.
The LAN includes about 40 PC's (DOS), 6 UNix hosts , 2 MAc's and the OS/2 machine.
On the IBM PS/2 80 we run TCP/IP (PC/TCP for OS/2 from FTP) to connect
the computer to the Unix hosts. (using NDIS drivers, complex configuration)
Unix partitions can be mounted on it and FTP (file transfer) is also possible.`
Vines OS/2 client software is also running on the PS/2 and enables the use
of printers in the VINES LAN, the use of mail etc.
Not everything works without problems, but the connection is satisfactory.
I do not know if this will still be possible with OS/2 version 2.x.

=========================================
|	Luc Van Wiemeersch		|
|    	E-mail: luwie@gengenp.rug.ac.be	|
|	Tel : 3291 2645195		|
|	UNIVERSITY OF GENT		|
|	LABORATORY OF GENETICS		|
|	Ledeganckstraat 35,		|
|	B-9000 Gent			|
|	BELGIUM				|
=========================================

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!UCI.EDU!mangalam
From: mangalam@UCI.EDU (Harry Mangalam)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: kinamage
Message-ID: <199309031552.AA10859@orion.oac.uci.edu>
Date: 3 Sep 93 15:52:18 GMT
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>  Hello:
>  
>        I am interested in displaying a pdb coordinate file on IBM-pc 
>        using KINAMAGE. Where can I get this program? I appreciate if
>        a command file is also posted of how to use the program.
>  
>        thanks
>        sathya(sathya@ncifcrf.gov)

FTP to orion.uci.edu, cd to /protein/Kinemage/pcMAGE, get the READMEs and
based on the result, you'll probably want the exe's as well as some of the
test data.
  Check out archie (via telnet) and veronica (via gopher) for future
reference.  They save an awful lot of time for questions such as these.

Cheers
Harry


From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!mcrcim.mcgill.edu!sifon!CC.UMontreal.CA!coady
From: coady@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Michael Coady)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: kinamage
Message-ID: <1993Sep3.161247.3179@cc.umontreal.ca>
Date: 3 Sep 93 16:12:47 GMT
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In article <199309031552.AA10859@orion.oac.uci.edu> mangalam@UCI.EDU (Harry Mangalam) writes:
>>        I am interested in displaying a pdb coordinate file on IBM-pc 
>>        using KINAMAGE. Where can I get this program? I appreciate if
>>        a command file is also posted of how to use the program.
>FTP to orion.uci.edu, cd to /protein/Kinemage/pcMAGE, get the READMEs and
>based on the result, you'll probably want the exe's as well as some of the
>test data.
>  Check out archie (via telnet) and veronica (via gopher) for future
>reference.  They save an awful lot of time for questions such as these.

	I agree with Harry that people should check out archie and veronica
but, at the risk of being pedantic, people ought to check out their
spelling of desired programs before trying archie.  In this case, the
original poster would have concluded that Kinamage [sic] simply wasn't
available.

Mike


-- 
Michael J. Coady
COADY@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA
"I don't got to show you no stinking .signature..."

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
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From: lsrgn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Peter Willingmann)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: re Antheprot
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Dear Dr. Deleage,

i tried to email you, but the mail bounced.
I would like to know is there a Macintosh version 
from the Antheprot prgm coming out/planed?
Thank you
peter



peter willingmann
Department of Biological Sciences
University of Warwick
Coventry CV4 7AL
lsrgn@csv.warwick.ac.uk

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!FCRFV2.NCIFCRF.GOV!SATHYA
From: SATHYA@FCRFV2.NCIFCRF.GOV
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: kinamage
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  Hello:
  
  	I am interested in displaying a pdb coordinate file on IBM-pc 
  	using KINAMAGE. Where can I get this program? I appreciate if
  	a command file is also posted of how to use the program.
  
  	thanks
  	sathya(sathya@ncifcrf.gov)


From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!PBR322.CEINGEBI.UNAM.MX!edgar
From: edgar@PBR322.CEINGEBI.UNAM.MX (Edgar Garduno)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: doubt of gopher
Message-ID: <9309031642.AA10758@pbr322.ceingebi.unam.mx>
Date: 3 Sep 93 16:42:22 GMT
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Hello,

	I have a question to make, I am new in this area and want to know
what exactly Gopher is?, how to use it? and how can I use it?

	Edgar Gardu&o Angeles
	Instituto de Biotecnologia,
	Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico

	FAX 544-68-53  in Mexico City
	Internet  edgar@pbr322.ceingebi.unam.mx
	

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.mtu.edu!string!huang
From: huang@stringmtu.edu (Xiaoqiu Huang)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Clustal (Gap penalty)
Message-ID: <2680og$jkk@mtu.edu>
Date: 3 Sep 93 18:00:48 GMT
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I have a multiple alignment program (MAP) that does not
penalizes end gaps. The MAP program is available from
me via an anonymous ftp to string.cs.mtu.edu under
directory /pub/huang.

Xiaoqiu Huang
Michigan Tech

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!pipex!sunic!corax.udac.uu.se!zeta.bmc.uu.se!daresbury!daresbury!ajt
From: ajt@uk.ac.sari.rri (Tony Travis)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Visilog
Message-ID: <1993Sep3.230140.15667@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>
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I'm using Noesis Visilog 4.1.3 on the PC and Sun workstations to
process biological images.  I'd be interested to hear from anyone else
using Visilog esspecially for the analysis of microscope images.

I posted a message to the (UK) CHEST mailbase list for Visilog but have
not seen any responses there yet.  For those who might not have seen
Visilog, it is an object oriented image analysis development system
that can be used to generate platform-independant GUI image analysis
applications on PC, Sun, HP and SGI (not Mac though).

	Tony.
-- 
Dr. A.J.Travis,                       |  JANET: <ajt@uk.ac.sari.rri>
Rowett Research Institute,            |  other: <ajt@rri.sari.ac.uk>
Greenburn Road, Bucksburn,            |  phone: +44 (0)224 712751
Aberdeen, AB2 9SB. UK.                |    fax: +44 (0)224 715349

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!nigel.msen.com!caen!lsa.umich.edu!usenet
From: Doug_Ee@um.cc.umich.edu (Doug Eernisse)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: concerning end gaps and anchoring
Message-ID: <267v94$4k6@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Date: 3 Sep 93 17:35:32 GMT
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In article <930903084111.20202612@BOBCAT.CSC.WSU.EDU> 
Steve Thompson: VADMS genetics, THOMPSON@WSUVMS1.CSC.WSU.EDU writes:
>software.  If you know, by eye or otherwise, where the motifs are that
you want
>to force the alignment around, you can add foreign symbols to the
sequence at
>corresponding sites in all members of the group.  This works best if you
can
>flank your known motif with the foreign symbol but also works if you just
>insert it into a common feature (e.g. this works great for absolutely
locking
>in disulphide bridges with protein alignments).  Then you need to modify
the
>substitution matrix which the program accesses to likewise add the
foreign
>symbol.  Give it a substitution value at least 10X that of identity for
your
>table.  Then when you run the program be sure and specify the alternate
table. 
>This works very well for many situations, both nucleotide and peptide,
and has
>been successfully used after my suggestion by many of my users to align
>previosly "unalignable" sequence sets.  Naturally, use an editor to
remove the
>foreign symbols after the alignment has been completed.  Give it a try.
>
>                                                   Steve Thompson


Right, this is similar to what I have done, although your manipulation of
the substitution matrix for amino acids is a very nice touch. If you just
want to try adding columns of a special symbol in your alignment and, like
me, you are using a Mac to edit your alignments, you might find the
following 
tip useful. I have found the freeware version (2.22) of the text editor
BBEdit,
which is one "Child Apps" which comes with Don Gilbert's SeqApp program,
to
be useful in this particular case. Actually, you need to download one of
the
many available pd BBEdit extensions written by other authors. I got this
one at "mac.archive.umich.edu" (anonymous ftp _after_ business hours) but
it should also be at Sumex and the various mirrors to these sites. On the
Michigan archives, look in /util/text/ for something like 
"BBE_InsertColumns.hqx" which simply allows you to insert columns of tabs 
in your data (you can also get the full version of BBEdit 2.22 while you 
are there). I have made trivial changes to the Think C code included,
changed 
the name, and recompiled to make other versions for specific characters
(e.g.,
my gap symbol, space, "$", or whatever), but it is also easy enough to
globally
change all the tabs you inserted in your alignment to be "$$$$$$" or
whatever. 
These may be stripped in a similar global manner using the built-in
"Replace"
facility.
 
As a general comment, one should be wary of such a method because it is
exceedingly difficult to limit alignment ambiguities to particular
columns.
The same applies to those who put bars over "ambiguous" alignment sites
which are then excluded from a phylogenetic analysis. The problem is,
alternative gap placements may extend into or out of the sites one would
like to treat in a special manner. At least keep those ambiguous sites in
your alignment, perhaps excluding them from some analyses by defining
a "charset" of those sites (PAUP). If you don't you risk losing track of
your
decisions on alignment. Steve's case of lacking disulphide bridges might
be an appropriate a priori justification for deciding where the gaps
should 
go.

Doug

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Sep 02 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!WSUVMS1.CSC.WSU.EDU!THOMPSON
From: THOMPSON@WSUVMS1.CSC.WSU.EDU ("Steve Thompson: VADMS genetics")
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: concerning end gaps and anchoring
Message-ID: <930903084111.20202612@BOBCAT.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Date: 3 Sep 93 15:41:11 GMT
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Hello Bio-Soft -

In Message-Id <9309031002.AA21206@net.bio.net> Doug Eernisse, (Hi Doug!)
Doug_Ee@um.cc.umich.edu, quotes Wagner Fontes and proposes a solution:

>In article <9309021947.AA01103@net.bio.net> Wagner Fontes, 
>WAGNERF@BRUNB.BITNET writes:
>>I'm trying to align peptides using Clustal V, but found a problem:
>>With a low gap penalty, to allow the peptide to be inserted anywhere
>>in the sequence, the software inserts long gaps IN the peptide.
>>Is there a way to increase the gap penalty only for the internal gaps,
>>allowing long gaps at the beginning and/or end of the sequence?

>I think this is a general problem for multiple sequence alignments
>in which the sequences are poorly conserved or contain missing
>data near some of their ends. We need algorithms that allow anchoring 
>of portions of the alignment. Is there a way you can artificially
>make the ends more highly matching (temporarily) for the purpose
>of matching the central portions, then remove the central portion
>back to the unmodified alignment? This problem is why I have
>never gotten very far with a nonmanual approach to aligning
>mixtures of partial and complete 18S rRNA sequences.

This is a crucial problem in all alignments, especially multiple ones. 
Wagner's dismay is about my only complaint with Clustal V --- it has no feature
that I am aware of to allow the program to ignore end gap weighting.  GCG's
PileUp, which pretty much is the same type of algorithm, by default ignores end
gap weights and, therefore, is much more appropriate in instances where all
sequences do not begin at a common site.  PileUp also allows one to specify end
gap weighting if desired.

Doug's point, however, raises an entirely different issue.  How can a program
find and align strong "motifs" within sequences if the overall similarity is
very low?  Supposedly PIMA works well at this but I have not had a chance to
play with it since I do not have a UNIX station at my disposal.  However, I
have used a TRICK in forcing this type of alignment to work with other
software.  If you know, by eye or otherwise, where the motifs are that you want
to force the alignment around, you can add foreign symbols to the sequence at
corresponding sites in all members of the group.  This works best if you can
flank your known motif with the foreign symbol but also works if you just
insert it into a common feature (e.g. this works great for absolutely locking
in disulphide bridges with protein alignments).  Then you need to modify the
substitution matrix which the program accesses to likewise add the foreign
symbol.  Give it a substitution value at least 10X that of identity for your
table.  Then when you run the program be sure and specify the alternate table. 
This works very well for many situations, both nucleotide and peptide, and has
been successfully used after my suggestion by many of my users to align
previosly "unalignable" sequence sets.  Naturally, use an editor to remove the
foreign symbols after the alignment has been completed.  Give it a try.

                                                   Steve Thompson

                              Steven M. Thompson
            Consultant in Molecular Genetics and Sequence Analysis
VADMS (Visualization, Analysis & Design in the Molecular Sciences) Laboratory
           Washington State University, Pullman, WA 99164-1224, USA
          AT&Tnet:  (509) 335-0533 or 335-3179  FAX:  (509) 335-0540
                  BITnet:  THOMPSON@WSUVMS1 or STEVET@WSUVM1
                   INTERnet:  THOMPSON@wsuvms1.csc.wsu.edu


From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Sep 03 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!FDACFSAN.BITNET!FOF
From: FOF@FDACFSAN.BITNET
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Statistical significance of short consensus sequences.
Message-ID: <9309040506.AA22382@net.bio.net>
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Greetings bio-soft netters.  I have cloned a yeast gene encoding a protein invo
lved in transcriptional control which lacks any significant homology to previou
sly identified proteins when the entire coding sequence is searched against Gen
Bank.  However,
the predicted protein has two short basic stretches at its N-terminus that, whe
n searched against GenBank, individually are distantly related to helix-loop-he
lix (fos, jun, and some plant HLH proteins) DNA-binding domains and to helix 1
of paired family
homeobox transcription factors.  In order to gain some perspective on how homol
ogous these sequences were I have aligned both regions with a wide variety of H
LH and homeo box proteins.  Although both segments seem to conform to a pseudo
consensus for HLH
and homeo domains, respectively, I am bothered by the fact that I cannot valida
te statistically the significance of the homologies because the sequences are s
o short.  What I am looking for is a program for Mac of IBM PCs (preferably Mac
) that allows
multiple short sequences to be input and a consensus and some statistical measu
re of the significance of the homology of the query sequence with the other ali
gned sequences to be output.  In simple terms, I have a query sequence and 10-1
2 known examples
of a known protein structural motif and I need to know what the significance of
 the homology is.  Is there such a program in existence for the Mac (preferably
) or the IBM PC that is available for very minimal or no cost?  Any information
 is greatly
appreciated.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Sep 04 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!nwnexus!m3047
From: m3047@halcyon.com (Fred Morris)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Mac GCC or something similar?
Keywords: GCC Macintosh genetic sequencing
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I few weeks ago I saw a thread that briefly touched on GCC or a GCC-like
package for the Macintosh.  Was that for real?  Is it ready? Is there an
ftp site?  Is it commercially available?  Need help?  Presently running
GCC on a VAX and exploring alternatives (we've got lotsa new Macs).

Related question: is this newsgroup archived somewhere?

Fred Morris         I'm a VAX/VMS and Macintosh guru
m3047@halcyon.com    ..but I don't know everything!

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Sep 04 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!lynx.unm.edu!carina.unm.edu!news-user
From: bhjelle@unm.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Biomed Clip Art
Message-ID: <26d81n$2ku@carina.unm.edu>
Date: 5 Sep 93 17:35:51 GMT
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I often have to give presentations on topics related
to molecular biology, genetics, and more "organismal"
level subjects concerning human and animal virology.
I have several presentation packages (software)
ranging from Wordperfect Presentations to Harvard
Graphics to DrawPerfect, so can deal with various
bitmapped and vector mapped formats. I have been
looking unsuccessfully for large "clip art" libraries
that would allow me to import high-quality pictures
of, say, DNA structure, virus particles (eg, illustration
or bitmapped EM picture), human organs, phylogenic tree
templates, a library of mouse pictures, etc.

Is it too soon to ask for such a library, eg, on CD-ROM?
Does anyone know of something that would help with this?
I understand there are some "medical" packages on CD-ROM,
which are not clipart libraries but multimedia medical
reference libraries. Is anyone familiar with these?
Windows compatibility is important...

Thanks for any and all ideas.

Brian

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Sep 04 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!lhc!azalea!francis
From: francis@azalea.nlm.nih.gov (Francis Ouellette)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Mac GCC or something similar?
Message-ID: <1993Sep5.125728.26402@nlm.nih.gov>
Date: 5 Sep 93 12:57:28 GMT
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m3047@halcyon.com (Fred Morris) writes:

: Related question: is this newsgroup archived somewhere?

al BIOSCI newsgroups are archived at net.bio.net in th eBIOSCI
directory.  They are also reachable by gopher ... there and also at 
ftp.bio.indiana.edu

regards,

francis

--
| B.F. Francis Ouellette  
|
| francis@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov   

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Sep 04 23:00:00 1993
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From: A428ENDE@HASARA11.SARA.NL
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Neural Network programs for sequence analysis?
Message-ID: <16C4012840.A428ENDE@HASARA11.SARA.NL>
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In article <9308311856.AA03849@genetics.com>
mcolbert@GENETICS.COM writes:
 
>I am looking for information on neural network packages that can be used for
>protein and nucleic acid sequence analysis.  Specifically, we have novel
>sequences and want to see what (if anything) they may be similar to within the
>databases.  The colleague I am asking this question for has already run
>traditional types of homology searches (blast,fasta) with not much success.
>The profile analysis offered in the GCG package is more sensitive than a
>traditional homology search, but creating a profile requires having multiple
>sequences that you align and search with, and we have only one sequence at a
>time.  I have done some work with neural networks (very limited) so we
>thought we would at least ask around.
 
A while ago I read an article in which they used neural networks to predict cod
ing and noncoding sequences in a piece of genomic DNA (I don't have the article
 at hand but I can look it up if you want). This is the only use of a neural ne
twork in sequence analysis I am aware off. Please if someone else has more info
rmation share it with this group. It is a very interesting subject!
Henk van de Kamer
CHLAMY@SARA.NL

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Sep 05 23:00:00 1993
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From: Rob.Harper@csc.fi (Rob Harper)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Simtel-20 August 93 Uploads.
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>Path: funic!news.funet.fi!sunic!mcsun!uunet!wupost!tacom-emh1.army.mil!msdos-ann-request
>From: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen)
>Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.announce
>Subject: MS-DOS uploads to SIMTEL20 & OAK during the month of August, 1993
>Summary: 238 new files were added
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>Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 10:09:00 GMT
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AUTHWN02.ZIP  B    6405  93081
From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Sep 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!swmed.edu!WEIX
From: WEIX@swmed.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: GCC or something similar?
Message-ID: <01H2LSAI6GJ69X67HB@swmed.edu>
Date: 6 Sep 93 03:05:36 GMT
Sender: news@net.bio.net
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Dear Fred Morris  <m3047@halcyon.com>
   
There are a number of molecular biology programs for the Mac available as
academic freeware. They do not always have the power or speed of GCG, but
for graphics ease and alignment they are better/easier. Much easier. I have
used GCG on a VAX system for a few years (on and off as I needed to), and
it is *not* user friendly! Since my first degree was in Mechanical Engineering,
I consider myself somewhat computer literate. My advice, if you have access to
VAX-GCG, would be to do sequence searching (FASTA, etc.) on the GCG, and to do
alignments and analysis on the Mac. The place to look is ftp to 
molbio.indiana.edu. Download everything and take it for a spin. :-) Have fun!
                                      @@@@
                                     (o  o)
         |----------------------ooO---(__)---Ooo----------------------|
         |                                                            |
         | Patrick Weix                        weix@swmed.edu         |
         | UT Southwestern Medical Center      tel: (214) 648-5050    |
         | 5323 Harry Hines Blvd               fax: (214) 648-5453    |
         | Dallas, TX 75235                                           |
         |------------------------------------------------------------|
                                    ||    ||
                                  (__)    (__)

P.S. We use: DNAaid, SeqApp, and Strider. If you find a good plasmid drawing
program, please let me know!

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Sep 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!pipex!sunic!corax.udac.uu.se!zeta.bmc.uu.se!embl-heidelberg.de!higgins
From: higgins@embl-heidelberg.de
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Clustal (Gap penalty)
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.173009.115413@embl-heidelberg.de>
Date: 6 Sep 93 16:30:09 GMT
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In article <9309021947.AA01103@net.bio.net>, WAGNERF@BRUNB.BITNET (Wagner Fontes) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to align peptides using Clustal V, but found a problem:
> With a low gap penalty, to allow the peptide to be inserted anywhere
> in the sequence, the software inserts long gaps IN the peptide.
> 
> Is there a way to increase the gap penalty only for the internal gaps,
> allowing long gaps at the beginning and/or end of the sequence?
> 
All gaps in clustal v are penalised identically which does look bad when
aligning sequences of greatly different lengths.  This is due to the 
dynamic programming algorithm I used (Myers and Miller, CABIOS, 1988)
which is very memory efficient but which is VERY complicated to modify
(e.g. to penalise end gaps differently or not at all).  I do have a fix
(have had for a year) but have not yet had time to document or debug it
properly.  I hope to release a version with this option soon.  In the meantime,
yes, PILEUP in the GCG package does allow end gaps to be unpenalised.  

So, sorry about the messy ends!  You can always align the sequences manually:-).


Des Higgins

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Sep 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!ee.und.ac.za!ford.ee.up.ac.za!zeno.up.ac.za!bio1
From: bio1@navi.up.ac.za (Fourie Joubert)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: ANTHEPROT?
Message-ID: <bio1.364.000AF873@navi.up.ac.za>
Date: 6 Sep 93 17:58:09 GMT
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Hi

Could anyone please tell me how and where the ANTHEPROT package may be 
obtained?

Please mail, thanks...

__________________________________________________________________________

     _/_/_/_/  _/_/_/_/_/  Fourie Joubert           
    _/            _/     Department of Biochemistry
   _/            _/    University of Pretoria
  _/_/_/_/      _/   South Africa
 _/            _/  bio1@navi.up.ac.za
_/      _/_/_/_/                                 Disclaimer: "Fourie who?"
__________________________________________________________________________

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Sep 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!swmed.edu!WEIX
From: WEIX@swmed.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: molbio@indiana
Message-ID: <01H2MIU6FPW29X6PPQ@swmed.edu>
Date: 6 Sep 93 15:48:02 GMT
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Sorry to all! I recently posted an incorrect address for software molbio
archives at indiana. The correct ftp site address is fly.bio.indiana.edu.
Then cd to the molbio dir. Sorry again.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Sep 05 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!MNI.lan.mcgill.ca!IVAN
From: IVAN@MNI.lan.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Biomed Clip Art
Message-ID: <9309061549.AA08051@kona.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: 6 Sep 93 18:44:38 GMT
Sender: daemon@net.bio.net
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> I often have to give presentations on topics related to molecular
> biology, genetics, and more "organismal" level subjects concerning
> human and animal virology.
[edited...]
> I have been looking unsuccessfully for large "clip art" libraries
> that would allow me to import high-quality pictures of, say, DNA
> structure
[edited...]
> I understand there are some "medical" packages on CD-ROM, which
> are not clipart libraries but multimedia medical reference
> libraries. Is anyone familiar with these? Windows compatibility is
> important...
Boy, do I feel for you!  I'm in the same boat with my own lab group
since I have the most computer expertise as well as design taste
(most of the others haven't progressed past the crayon stage).

For anatomy, Micrografx sells an anatomy clipart package which was
drawn by a medical illustrator; T/Maker has a similar package.  In
terms of other images, have you heard of a package called SlideWrite?
I personally do not use it though I have seen the brochure describing
the clipart add-ons available.

As for the medical CD-ROMs, the only non-text version I've seen is a
nephrology tutor called Up To Date and its companion product McPee
(these are Win3.1 packages); images appear to be TIFF but I haven't
been able to extract anything from it - yet.

Unfortunately, there are more clipart packages available for the Mac
than for the PC; what I've done in the past is to export a Mac
clipart image to Adobe Illustrator format or EPS, and then transfer
the package over to my PC (via Ethernet and a Netware server).  Adobe
Illustrator/Win can read them with no problems.


- ivan

------------------------------------------
Ivan Shaw "The Angel of Death"
Neuroimmunology Unit
Montreal Neurological Institute
Montreal, Canada  H3A 2B4
------------------------------------------
Internet e-mail:    Ivan@MNI.LAN.McGill.CA
Telephone:          (514) 398-3002
FAX                 (514) 398-7371

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From: d.love@dl.ac.uk (Dave Love)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Curve Fitting
Message-ID: <D.LOVE.93Sep6142156@dlpx1.dl.ac.uk>
Date: 6 Sep 93 13:21:55 GMT
References: <lwalsh.746482305@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Aug29.213608.5674@c-mols.siu.edu>
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In-reply-to: shriver@qm.c-biochem.siu.edu's message of Sun, 29 Aug 1993 21:36:08 GMT

Be careful.  Fitting general sums of decaying exponentials is an
ill-conditioned problem for which one is usually cautioned against
general least-squares routines.  There are specialised routines in
some non-free Fortran subroutine libraries that I know of (IMSL,
Harwell and probably CERNlib and others).  Good places to look for a
treatment of the problem might be the journals `Nuclear Instruments
and Methods' and `Computer Physics Communications'.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: engel@biobase.aau.dk (Jacob Engelbrecht)
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Subject: Re: Neural Network programs for sequence analysis?
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some years ago we published the following, and we are continuing to work
with neural networks as well as other methods for localizing structure
and function in biological sequences.

Jacob Engelbrecht
Center for Biological Sequence analysis
engel@virus.fki.dth.dk

DESCRIPTION:

   The  NetGene  mail  server  is a  service  producing  neural  network
   predictions  of splice  sites in  vertebrate  genes as described  in:
   Brunak, S.,  Engelbrecht,  J., and Knudsen, S.  (1991)  Prediction of
   Human mRNA Donor and Acceptor  Sites from the DNA  Sequence.  Journal
   of Molecular Biology, 220, 49-65.


ABSTRACT OF JMB ARTICLE:

   Artificial  neural  networks have been applied to the  prediction  of
   splice site location in human  pre-mRNA.  A joint  prediction  scheme
   where  prediction  of transition  regions  between  introns and exons
   regulates  a cutoff  level for  splice  site  assignment  was able to
   predict splice site locations with confidence  levels far better than
   previously  reported in the  literature.  The  problem of  predicting
   donor and  acceptor  sites in human genes is hampered by the presence
   of  numerous   amounts  of  false   positives  -  in  the  paper  the
   distribution  of these false splice sites is examined and linked to a
   possible  scenario  for the  splicing  mechanism  in vivo.  When  the
   presented  method detects 95% of the true donor and acceptor sites it
   makes less than 0.1% false donor site  assignments and less than 0.4%
   false acceptor site assignments.  For the large data set used in this
   study this means that on the  average  there are one and a half false
   donor sites per true donor site and six false acceptor sites per true
   acceptor site.  With the joint assignment method more than a fifth of
   the true donor sites and around one fourth of the true acceptor sites
   could  be  detected  without  accompaniment  of  any  false  positive
   predictions.  Highly  confident  splice  sites  could not be isolated
   with a widely used weight  matrix  method or by separate  splice site
   networks.  A complementary  relation between the confidence levels of
   the  coding/non-coding  and the  separate  splice site  networks  was
   observed, with many weak splice sites having sharp transitions in the
   coding/non-coding  signal and many stronger  splice sites having more
   ill-defined transitions between coding and non-coding.


INSTRUCTIONS:

   In order to use the NetGene mail-server:

   1) Prepare a file with the sequence in a format  similar to the fasta
      format:  the first line must start  with the symbol  '>', the next
      word  on  that  line  is  used  as the  sequence  identifier.  The
      following lines should contain the actual sequence,  consisting of
      the symbols A, T, U, G, C and N.  U is converted to T, letters not
      mentioned  are converted to N.  All letters are converted to upper
      case.  Numbers,  blanks and other  nonletter  symbols are skipped.
      The lines  should not be longer than 80  characters.  The  minimum
      length  analyzed  is 451  nucleotides,  and the  maximum is 100000
      nucleotides  (your  mail  system  may have a lower  limit  for the
      maximum  size of a message).  Due to the  non-local  nature of the
      algorithm  sites  closer than 225  nucleotides  to the ends of the
      sequence will not be assigned.

   2) Mail the file to netgene@virus.fki.dth.dk.  The response time will
      depend on system  load.  If nothing else is running on the machine
      the  speed is about  1000  nucleotides/min.  It may  take  several
      hours  before you get the answer, so please do not  resubmit a job
      if you get no answer within a short while.


REFERENCING AND FURTHER INFORMATION

   Publication  of output from  NetGene must be  referenced  as follows:
   Brunak, S.,  Engelbrecht,  J., and Knudsen, S.  (1991)  Prediction of
   Human mRNA Donor and Acceptor  Sites from the DNA  Sequence.  Journal
   of Molecular Biology, 220, 49-65.


CONFIDENTIALITY
   Your  submitted  sequence  will be  deleted automatically immediately 
   after processing by NetGene.


PROBLEMS AND SUGGESTIONS:  

   Should be addressed to:

   Jacob Engelbrecht

   e-mail: engel@virus.fki.dth.dk

   Department of Physical Chemistry
   The Technical University of Denmark
   Building 206
   DK-2800 Lyngby
   Denmark

   phone: +45 4288 2222 ext. 2478 (operator)
   phone: +45 4593 1222 ext. 2478 (tone)
   fax:   +45 4593 4808

   
EXAMPLE:

   A file test.seq is prepared with an editor with the following contents:

   >HUMOPS
   GGATCCTGAGTACCTCTCCTCCCTGACCTCAGGCTTCCTCCTAGTGTCACCTTGGCCCCTCTTAGAAGC
   CAATTAGGCCCTCAGTTTCTGCAGCGGGGATTAATATGATTATGAACACCCCCAATCTCCCAGATGCTG
   . Here come more lines with sequence.
   .
   .
   
   This is sent to the NetGene mail-server, on a Unix system like this:
   mail netgene@virus.fki.dth.dk < test.seq
   
   In return an answer similar to this is produced:

From netgene@virus.fki.dth.dk Fri Mar 20 13:30 MET 1992
Received: by virus.fki.dth.dk
	(16.7/16.2) id AA05624; Fri, 20 Mar 92 13:30:41 +0100
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 92 13:30:41 +0100
From: virus mail server <netgene@virus.fki.dth.dk>
Return-Path: <netgene@virus.fki.dth.dk>
To: engel@virus.fki.dth.dk
Subject: HUMOPS: NetGene splice site prediction
Status: RO


------------------------------------------------------------------------
                               NetGene
               Neural Network Prediction of Splice Sites
                                                         
Reference: 
Brunak, S.,  Engelbrecht,  J., and  Knudsen, S.  (1991).  Prediction  of
Human mRNA donor and acceptor  sites from the DNA  sequence.  Journal of
Molecular Biology 220:49-65.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Report ERRORS to Jacob Engelbrecht engel@virus.fki.dth.dk.

Potential splice sites are assigned by combining output from a local and
a global  network.  The  prediction is made with two cutoffs:  1) Highly
confident  sites (no or few false  positives, on average 50% of the true
sites  detected);  2) Nearly all true sites (more  false  positives - on
average of all positions 0.1% false positive  donor sites and 0.4% false
positive  acceptor  sites, at 95% detection of true sites).  The network
performance on sequences from distantly  related  organisms has not been
quantified.  Due to the  non-local  nature of the algorithm sites closer
than 225 nucleotides to the ends of the sequence cannot be assigned.



Column explanations, field identifiers: 

POSITION in your sequence (either first or last base in intron).
Joint CONFIDENCE level for the site (relative to the cutoff). 
EXON INTRON gives 20 bases of sequence around the predicted site.
LOCAL is the site confidence from the local network. 
GLOBAL is the site confidence from the global network. 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The sequence: HUMOPS contains 6953 bases, and has the following composition:
A 1524 C 2022 G 1796 T 1611


1) HIGHLY CONFIDENT SITES:
==========================

ACCEPTOR SITES:
POSITION     CONFIDENCE        INTRON EXON         LOCAL   GLOBAL
    4094           0.27    TGTCCTGCAG^GCCGCTGCCC    0.63     0.66
    5167           0.20    TGCCTTCCAG^TTCCGGAACT    0.59     0.64
    3812           0.17    CTGTCCTCAG^GTACATCCCC    0.68     0.54
    3164           0.02    TCCTCCTCAG^TCTTGCTAGG    0.79     0.32
    2438           0.01    TGCCTTGCAG^GTGAAATTGC    0.78     0.33

DONOR SITES:
POSITION     CONFIDENCE          EXON INTRON       LOCAL   GLOBAL
    3979           0.38    CGTCAAGGAG^GTACGGGCCG    0.92     0.74
    2608           0.17    GCTGGTCCAG^GTAATGGCAC    0.85     0.54
    4335           0.06    GAACAAGCAG^GTGCCTACTG    0.83     0.41


2) NEARLY ALL TRUE SITES:
=========================

ACCEPTOR SITES:
POSITION     CONFIDENCE        INTRON EXON         LOCAL   GLOBAL
    4094           0.55    TGTCCTGCAG^GCCGCTGCCC    0.63     0.66
    3812           0.52    CTGTCCTCAG^GTACATCCCC    0.68     0.54
    3164           0.49    TCCTCCTCAG^TCTTGCTAGG    0.79     0.32
    5167           0.49    TGCCTTCCAG^TTCCGGAACT    0.59     0.64
    2438           0.48    TGCCTTGCAG^GTGAAATTGC    0.78     0.33
    4858           0.39    TCATCCATAG^AAAGGTAGAA    0.77     0.20
    3712           0.36    CCTTTTCCAG^GGAGGGAATG    0.88    -0.01
    4563           0.33    CCCTCCACAG^GTGGCTCAGA    0.81     0.05
    5421           0.33    TTTTTTTAAG^AAATAATTAA    0.75     0.13
    3783           0.29    TCCCTCACAG^GCAGGGTCTC    0.64     0.26
    3173           0.25    GTCTTGCTAG^GGTCCATTTC    0.52     0.36
    4058           0.24    CTCCCTGGAG^GAGCCATGGT    0.43     0.51
    1784           0.22    TCACTGTTAG^GAATGTCCCA    0.68     0.08
    6512           0.21    CCCTTGCCAG^ACAAGCCCAT    0.67     0.08
    2376           0.20    CCCTGTCTAG^GGGGGAGTGC    0.61     0.16
    1225           0.18    CCCCTCTCAG^CCCCTGTCCT    0.65     0.07
    1743           0.13    TTCTCTGCAG^GGTCAGTCCC    0.62     0.03
    3834           0.13    GGGCCTGCAG^TGCTCGTGTG    0.26     0.58
    4109           0.13    TGCCCAGCAG^CAGGAGTCAG    0.29     0.54
    6557           0.13    CATTCTGGAG^AATCTGCTCC    0.56     0.12
    1638           0.11    CCATTCTCAG^GGAATCTCTG    0.62     0.00
     247           0.10    GCCTTCGCAG^CATTCTTGGG    0.55     0.11
    6766           0.09    CTATCCACAG^GATAGATTGA    0.64    -0.06
     906           0.08    AATTTCACAG^CAAGAAAACT    0.61    -0.02
    6499           0.08    CAGTTTCCAG^TTTCCCTTGC    0.55     0.06
     378           0.07    GTACCCACAG^TACTACCTGG    0.24     0.52
    3130           0.07    CTGTCTCCAG^AAAATTCCCA    0.51     0.12
    4272           0.07    ACCATCCCAG^CGTTCTTTGC    0.58     0.00
    4522           0.07    TGAATCTCAG^GGTGGGCCCA    0.51     0.12
    5722           0.07    ACCCTCGCAG^CAGCAGCAAC    0.55     0.05
    2316           0.06    CTTCCCCAAG^GCCTCCTCAA    0.40     0.27
    2357           0.06    GCCTTCCTAG^CTACCCTCTC    0.39     0.28
    2908           0.06    TTTGGTCTAG^TACCCCGGGG    0.51     0.10
    4112           0.06    CCAGCAGCAG^GAGTCAGCCA    0.25     0.50
    1327           0.05    TTTGCTTTAG^AATAATGTCT    0.52     0.06
     844           0.04    GTTTGTGCAG^GGCTGGCACT    0.62    -0.11
    1045           0.04    TCCCTTGGAG^CAGCTGTGCT    0.54     0.01
    1238           0.03    CTGTCCTCAG^GTGCCCCTCC    0.50     0.06
    2976           0.03    CCTAGTGCAG^GTGGCCATAT    0.62    -0.12
    3825           0.03    CATCCCCGAG^GGCCTGCAGT    0.16     0.60
    1508           0.02    TGAGATGCAG^GAGGAGACGC    0.43     0.16
    2257           0.02    CTCTCCTCAG^CGTGTGGTCC    0.53     0.00
    5712           0.02    ATCCTCTCAG^ACCCTCGCAG    0.51     0.05
    2397           0.00    CCCTCCTTAG^GCAGTGGGGT    0.41     0.16
    4800           0.00    CATTTTCTAG^CTGTATGGCC    0.47     0.07
    5016           0.00    TGCCTAGCAG^GTTCCCACCA    0.59    -0.11

DONOR SITES:
POSITION     CONFIDENCE          EXON INTRON       LOCAL   GLOBAL
    3979           0.75    CGTCAAGGAG^GTACGGGCCG    0.92     0.74
    2608           0.51    GCTGGTCCAG^GTAATGGCAC    0.85     0.54
    4335           0.38    GAACAAGCAG^GTGCCTACTG    0.83     0.41
     656        
From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!HAL.HAHNEMANN.EDU!moreyr
From: moreyr@HAL.HAHNEMANN.EDU
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Software Packages for MAc for Anatomy and Histology
Message-ID: <0097227C.5C8F66E0.27286@hal.hahnemann.edu>
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Does anybody out there know of any SW packages for the Machintosh (Performa 600)
to study anatomy of Histo (fisrt yr Med student level) please let me know

moreyr@hal.hahnemann.edu

raj-man

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: harper@convex.csc.FI (Rob Harper)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Marck, Christian; Telephon a/o Fax-No.
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In <26has5$cve@basfigw.basf-ag.de> elard.jacob@zxd.basf-ag.de (Elard Jacob) writes:

>Hi netters,
>please could anyone advise me about the phone or fax number of Christian 
>Marck, Gif-Sur-Yvette, France who has written the program DNA-Strider?
>Thanx in advance
>Elard

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% GOPHER TO THE RESCUE %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Dr. Christian Marck
Service de Biochimie et de Genetique Moleculaire
Bat. 142 Centre d'Etudes de Saclay
91191 GIF-SUR-YVETTE      CEDEX        FRANCE
fax: (33 1) 69 08 47 12
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Rob "at your service" Harper

--
 Rob Harper                        E-mail:          harper@convex.csc.fi    
 Center for Scientific Computing   Molbio/software: harper@nic.funet.fi
 Tietotie 6, P.O. Box 405          Telephone:       +358 0 457 2076
 SF-02101 Espoo Finland            Fax:             +358 0 457 2302

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: elard.jacob@zxd.basf-ag.de (Elard Jacob)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Marck, Christian; Telephon a/o Fax-No.
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Hi netters,
please could anyone advise me about the phone or fax number of Christian 
Marck, Gif-Sur-Yvette, France who has written the program DNA-Strider?
Thanx in advance
Elard

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: CSMITH@CRCVMS.UNL.EDU
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Graduate Computer Literacy Requirement
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In article <1993Aug29.213231.5582@c-mols.siu.edu>
shriver@qm.c-biochem.siu.edu writes:
>We are in the middle of a discussion here concerning the pros
and cons of
>having graduate students in biochemistry and molecular biology
take a
>short course in computer programming and data analysis.  The
molecular
>biologists feel that this is an old fashioned requirement, while
the
>biophysicists feel that todays students are becoming less and
less
>acquainted with quantitative approaches.  I have been asked to
determine
>if any biochemistry or molecular biology graduate programs still
require
>their students to have been exposed to computer programming (in
any
>language) and data analysis.


     We do not have a requirement in the biochemistry program at
UNL at the graduate level and it shows ... but it's not a problem
limited to our graduates. I've found many a post-doc (from other
well-known institutions and labs) deficient in the most basic
computing skills. The lack of these skills in the electronic
information age has me questioning their ability to effectively
and *efficiently* analyze data from instrumentation and the
computer. There are two areas that seem to need addressing; (1)
basic computer skills needed to function independently in a lab
(e.g., being able to install a program/update *correctly*, or
write a simple batch file to simplify ones work), and (2)
adequate familiarity and appreciation for the computer
(understanding the potentials and LIMITS of a computer, and
special recognition for basic computer ails and *bugs*).
     
     With regard to point (2), what concerns me the most is that
computers (especially those integrated with lab instrumentation)
have an uncanny ability to spit out results that look real good
(agree with some pre-defined hypothesis), but are in fact nothing
more than electronic noise (I've seen this happen more than once,
to varying degrees). I attribute the inability to distinguish
between the two a direct result of the lack of basic computing
skills AND an appreciation of what a computer (or all electronic
instrumentation) can DO (whether you want it to or not) and
cannot DO (give precisely the same output when the known
experimental input has a variance of 10-15%).

     YES ! I would vote for the introduction of a basic
programming/data analysis, architecture course as part of a
graduate program. But, I find that given the current condition of
science at most universities, the "publish-or-perish" syndrome, I
doubt very much that many faculty are willing to spare their
research bodies an additional 3-5 hours per week for *another
unproductive course*. I dearly hope I am wrong on this score. 
     I wish you the very best success if you are trying to
introduce such a "computer" requirement. Hats off to you.

                    Chris
                    

Christopher Smith
Department of Biochemistry
University of Nebraska
e-mail: csmith@crcvms.unl.edu
     csmith@unlinfo.unl.edu
 




From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: Doug_Ee@um.cc.umich.edu (Doug Eernisse)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Netiquette (was Re: MEGA: Mol. Evol. Analysis Program)
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In defense of David, I didn't find his comments to be overly critical
and they were certainly not slanders. Lighten up a bit and next time
please don't post the same (tangential) posting multiple times.

 Doug

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!SCRIPPS.EDU!yagi2
From: yagi2@SCRIPPS.EDU (Akemi Yagi/BCR7 4-8094)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: MolScript
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Hello,

If you know of a program named MolScript, would you let me know where
I can find it?  This program presumably produces ribbon-type figures
from PDB data files.  Thank you.

Akemi

==============================================================================
  Akemi Yagi, Ph.D.	The Scripps Research Institute
			email: yagi2@scripps.edu
			phone: 619-554-2596 
==============================================================================

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!rnisd0.DNET.roche.com!delisior
From: delisior@rnisd0.DNET.roche.com (Bob DeLisio)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: MEGA: Mol. Evol. Analysis Program
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INET::"asdyp@acad2.alaska.edu" "Dave" writes:

>From:   INET::"asdyp@acad2.alaska.edu" "MAIL-11 Daemon"  2-SEP-1993 06:24
>To:     bio-soft@net.bio.net
>CC:
>Subj:   Re: MEGA: Mol. Evol. Analysis Program
>
>In article <9308272052.AA23967@mailgate.roche.com>,
>delisior@rnisd0.DNET.roche.com (Bob DeLisio) writes:
>> "joe@evolution.u.washington.edu" "Joe Felsenstein" 27-AUG-1993 05:
>>  writes:
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> <much stuff deleted>
>> If anyone knows a way to send encoded binaries by e-mail and have people be
>> able to make them self-extract without requiring tutorials from me on
>> how to get and use decoding programs, I'd love to hear it (it sounds
>> impossible to me).
>> <much more stuff deleted>
>>
>> Archives can be made (and have been for at least ten years!) to be self
>> extracting (read: executable or .EXE). All one has to do is type the filename
>> at the command line and VIOLA! all files are extracted automatically.
>Therefor
>e
>> anyone who can use DOS can extract an archive!
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
>Bob, this is clearly not what Joe was asking about.  Will you please wake up
>before you spout off with what appears to you to be the most obvious reply?
>Clearly, Joe was asking about a way to make UUENCODED archives self-extracting
>on the recipient's end.  You are way off on a tangent talking about how PKzip
>and other fine compression utilities will make self-extracting archives, but
>none of these have any relevance to encoded binaries.
>
>I don't know of any way to automate the decoding of encoded binaries that will
>be completely cross-platform compatable.  If all you are ever working with is
>Unix boxes with the same shell as yourself you could provide a script for the
>recipient to use, providing that they have access to a copy of uudecode on
>their end.  Perhaps a more compatable Unix method would be to write something
>in awk or perl, and hope that any PC users had gone out and FTPed awk and perl
>for DOS already.  This is unacceptable.  What else is left?
>
>Taking a hint from the alt.binaries groups, as well as comp.sys.hp48 you could
>write a little startup guide including short BASIC and C source for uudecode,
>and then provide in the file a more complete version of uudecode as well as
>instructions on how to FTPmail the most recent version.  With this plan you
>could then just send anyone who is having problems a copy of this file and ask
>them to read it before they ask any more questions.
>
>Me, I'm strongly in favor of dumping large text files full of useful
>information onto folks who need help.  *chuckle*
>
>Dave

Someone should remind dear David that this is a forum for the free expression
and exchange of ideas and information. Apparently he has lost sight of this and
has chosen instead to use to engage in abusive and derogatory correspondence
for no other reason than self-gratification.

I take exception to this kind of behavior, especially when it is at my expense.
It is inexcusable to misuse the privilege and violate the trust we all
assume when we join a newsgroup such as this one. Academics need not resort to
slander and insult, as David has done, to get a point across. It is
unprofessional and characteristic of an immature mind.

If we are to have a truly free flow of ideas and information then we must be
more tolerant of points of view contrary to our own. David has started a
process which we must not allow to continue. I urge everyone concerned to
police the behavior of the other members of this group lest we loose even more
than what we already have. Malicious personal attacks and ridicule should not 
be tolerated under any circumstances.

Bob

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!CUCCFA.CCC.COLUMBIA.EDU!MARK
From: MARK@CUCCFA.CCC.COLUMBIA.EDU (T. Mark Reboul)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Curve-fitting sums of exponentials: variation on the theme
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Following up this comment recently posted to Bio-Soft, on the matter 
of curve-fitting sums of exponentials....

> Be careful.  Fitting general sums of decaying exponentials is an
> ill-conditioned problem for which one is usually cautioned against
> general least-squares routines.  

Hmm, is it possible that some of the ill-conditioning arises from 
the application of straightforward least-squares itself? Or is the 
ill-conditioning completely intrinsic to the sum-of-exponentials 
model itself? In any event, a variant approach to this curve-fitting 
problem has received attention in recent years, and it is claimed to 
have certain advantages over the usual approach:

	Herbert R. Halvorson (1992)
	Pade'-Laplace algorithm for sums of exponentials: Selecting 
		appropriate exponential model and initial estimates 
		for exponential fitting
	in, "Numerical Computer Methods"
	Ludwig Brand & Michael L. Johnson, eds.
	Methods in Enzymology 210: 54-67

	E. Yeramian & P. Claverie (1987)
	Analysis of multiexponential functions without a hypothesis 
		as to the number of components
	Nature (12 March 1987) 326: 169-174

	P. Claverie & A. Denis (1989)
	[I don't know the title]
	Computer Physics Reports 9(5): 247-299
	[contains details of Claverie et al's Pade'-Laplace approach 
		to fitting sums of exponentials]

I cannot assure anybody of this alternate approach's merit, as my 
awareness of it is only superficial. Still, it seems to be relevant 
and may be worthy of investigation.

	Mark Reboul
	Columbia-Presbyterian Cancer Center Computing Facility
	mark@cuccfa.ccc.columbia.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!mcrcim.mcgill.edu!sifon!CC.UMontreal.CA!little
From: little@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Littlejohn Tim)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Phylogenetic analysis software via gopher
Message-ID: <little.747410600@alize.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Date: 7 Sep 93 14:03:20 GMT
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There has been some recent discussion about phylogenetic software
and multiple sequence alignment packages.  There is a growing collection
of documents, packages and compiled versions of various programs (including
Xiaoqiu Huang's MAP program) on the MegaGopher.

There is also a nice summary of various phylogenetic analysis packages,
written by Joe Felsenstein, too (with a few additions made by myself
e.g. the MEGA package), for those who would like an overview of what there
is available.

To access this collection, point your gopher Client at:

Name=MegaGopher
Type=1
Port=70
Path=
Host=megasun.bch.umontreal.ca
 
and select

 -->  4.  Computational Molecular Biology- programs, documents, help/
  -->  3.  Phylogenetic analysis- programs, help, etc./

for the summary document, then select:

 -->  1.  Documents/
  -->  2.  Summary of Programs for Phylogenetic analysis.


If you want more information about gopher, just send me an email and I'll
try to point you in the right direction.

Tim Littlejohn


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            Universite de Montreal          Fax:   (514) 343-2210 
            C.P. 6128, succursale A,
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: quido@bio.vu.nl (quido)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: HELP: Beta-strand (sheet) prediction!!
Message-ID: <quido-070993115721@mac134.bio.vu.nl>
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Hello,

I'm looking for a program which can predict beta-strands and/or beta-sheets
from primary structures. 
Preferentially a program that has been used by auteurs before (reference
would be nice)
If you know how I can get such a program, please contact me as soon as
possible. 
Thanks for the effort!


-- 
Q. Valent, Free University of Amsterdam, Boelelaan 1087, 1081 HV,
Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
Fax: +3120-6429202, E-mail: quido@bio.vu.nl or valent@bio.vu.nl

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: asdyp@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Postscript files?
Message-ID: <1993Sep7.015011.1@acad2.alaska.edu>
Date: 7 Sep 93 05:50:11 GMT
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In article <01H2GWCDDX8W003S5M@crcvms.unl.edu>, VWARWAR@CRCVMS.UNL.EDU (VITOR WARWAR) writes:
> 
> 	Hi
> 
> 	Is there a way to print a postscript file generated by GCG in
> a dot matrix printer?
> 
> 	Thanks you all
> 		Vitor Warwar

Sure thing, Vitor!  

What you want is called Ghostscript.  It is a gnu software package that allows
you to print postscript documents to a wide variety of normal and laser
printers, as well as to the console.  You can even have it convert your
document to a form usable by your favorite printer and save the results to a
file so that you can sneaker-net it over.  With a little tweaking for some
purposes it can be used with network printers just as easily.

Ghostscript is available primarily for various flavours of Unix, including
linux, and is also available for DOS computers.  There is a front-end to use
with Windows called ghostview which is pretty darn decent.  GS works just great
under X, but I think that you can use it without X.  Might not be able to
display to the console though.  

I know that you can find the DOS version on wuarchive.  Sunsite and tsx both
have the Unix source for ghostscript, as well as everything you need to get
linux up and running on your 386(+)-based PC.

Dave

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Sep 06 23:00:00 1993
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From: kellogg@crow.csrv.uidaho.edu (Scott Kellogg)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: 2D & 1D Gel Software
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Can someone please recommend a good PC program for analyzing 1D and
especially 2D gels.  I have an image analysis system (Image Pro Plus) with
CCD camera and capture board but require something that will handle 2D
protein gel analyses.  Hopefully the program will not be too costly. 
There is no access to Macs.  Thanks.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Sep 07 23:00:00 1993
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From: jpower@kiwi.imgen.bcm.tmc.edu (Joanna L. Power)
Newsgroups: bionet.software,bionet.molbio.gdb
Subject: GDB-Lite
Keywords: gdb software application macintosh
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                        ANNOUNCING GDB-Lite: 
             a user-friendly browsing and data entry tool 
                      for the Genome Data Base
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

The Informatics Core of the Human Genome Center at Baylor College of 
Medicine announces the release of GDB-Lite, a user-friendly GDB browsing 
and data-entry tool for the Macintosh.  

GDB-Lite provides investigators in the Human Genome Project an easy 
method to access and search GDB (the Genome Data Base at The Johns Hopkins 
University School of Medicine).  Reports incorporating data from several 
GDB tables can be generated easily.  GDB-Lite creates submission forms
for GDB, automatically formatting the information entered into the 
database by the user.

GDB-Lite was developed using 4th Dimension (4D), a powerful yet easy-to-use 
relational database system for the Macintosh.  Use of GDB-Lite requires
4D Runtime v3.0, available from ACIUS, Inc.  (An educational discount is
available when ordering directly from ACIUS.)  GDB-Lite requires a Macintosh
with a hard disk and a 12" (or larger) monochrome or high-resolution
color moniter.

GDB-Lite is compatible with GDB release 5.1.  The data is periodically
extracted from GDB at Baylor College of Medicine and made available by
anonymous ftp.  The data for chromosomes 6, 17 and X is currently available.
Other data sets can be provided if a need is present.

GDB-Lite is available by anonymous ftp from gc.bcm.tmc.edu.  All comments
should be sent to gdb-lite@bcm.tmc.edu.


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
   
   Randall F. Smith                          Joanna L. Power
   Institute for Molecular Genetics          Human Genome Center
   Baylor College of Medicine                Baylor College of Medicine
   Houston, TX 77030                         Houston, TX 77030

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Contact:

   Joanna L. Power      
   Human Genome Center
   Baylor College of Medicine
   Houston, TX 77030

   jpower@bcm.tmc.edu
   713-198-4689
   713-798-5385 (fax)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Sep 07 23:00:00 1993
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From: rodrigol@biomaster.uio.no (Rodrigo Lopez)
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.software,embnet.general
Subject: Use of SRS 3.1 through gopher or telnet
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ANNOUNCEMENT

The Sequence Retrieval System (SRS) of Dr. Thure Etzold is available
to users inside the Internet community as an interactive service
via telnet or as a gopher hole.

Two sites carry this service:


1. EMBL

   telnet embl-heidelberg.de 
   username: SRS (no password)

   This will allow you to log into EMBL VAX cluster and use SRS on any
   of the VAX machines.

   Gopher server managers can add the following to their local menus:

   #
   Name=SRS (Sequence Retrieval System) EMBL-Heidelberg
   Type=8
   Port=23
   Path=SRS
   Host=embl-heidelberg.de
   # 

2. EMBnet in Norway

   telnet biomed.uio.no
   username: SRS (no password)

   This will allow you to log into the Norwegian EMBnet node's VAX.

   Gopher server managers can add the following to their local menus:
  
   #
   Name=EMBnet: Norway / Seq. Retrival System (BIOMED) 
   Type=8 
   Port=23
   Path=srs 
   Host=biomed.uio.no
   #


NOTES

The sets of molecular biology databanks installed on the above sites
overlap largely but are not equivalent.

The system will ask you to provide an Internet e-mail address to which
the results of your searches will be send. For this reason please be
carefull about providing  e-mail addresses correctly.



ACKNOWLEDGMENTS

The software that make these telnet holes possible was written by
Christoph Gartmann from the Max Plank Institute of Immunobiology
in Freiburg. Some hubble addition were made by me.


R:-)



-- 
***************************************************************************
* RODRIGO LOPEZ SERRANO  rodrigol@biomed.uio.no -rodrigol@biotek.uio.no   * 
* Norwegian EMBnet node  Tel:xx-47-22958756 Fax:xx-47-22694130            *
***************************************************************************   

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Sep 07 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!daresbury!news
From: bionet%FRCGM51.earn@uk.ac.earn-relay
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: HELP: Beta-strand (sheet) prediction!!
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.110456.13452@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>
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Original-To: bio-software@uk.ac.daresbury


 
 
>
> I'm looking for a program which can predict beta-strands and/or beta-sheets
> from primary structures.
> Preferentially a program that has been used by auteurs before (reference
> would be nice)
> If you know how I can get such a program, please contact me as soon as
> possible.
> Thanks for the effort!
>
 I think you should try the profile/neural network method of Rost & Sander.
 Predictions can be made by E-mail.
 
 To begin with, first send a message containing the word 'help' to:
 
 predictprotein@embl-heidelberg.de
 
 Good luck.
 
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 | Jean-Loup Risler                   |                               |
 | CNRS                               | risler@frcgm51.bitnet         |
 | Centre de Genetique Moleculaire    | risler@cgmvax.cgm.cnrs-gif.fr |
 | 91198  Gif sur Yvette Cedex France |                               |
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Sep 07 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!PHOENIX.PRINCETON.EDU!chuck
From: chuck@PHOENIX.PRINCETON.EDU (Charles Epstein)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Primer analysis software
Message-ID: <199309082143.AA01532@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Date: 8 Sep 93 21:43:03 GMT
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Is anybody aware of any good, public domain, Primer analysis
software?  ie. for the design of oligonucleotide primers,
for use in either PCR or sequencing?  

If so, please reply to me directly  
chuck@phoenix.princeton.edu   since I am not a subscriber to
this newsgroup.

many thanks,

C. Epstein

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Sep 07 23:00:00 1993
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From: mlrgdm@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Wanted Authorware
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.195341.7591@dct.ac.uk>
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		WANTED Authorware.


	A copy of Authorware, Authorware Pro or Authorware Star. Must be the
complete package with orginal media.

	If you have an unwanted copy of one of these packages please contact

	Dr Kevan Gartland
	Dept MLS
	Dundee Institue of Technology
	Dundee, DD1 1HG

	Email MLTKG@DCT.AC.UK

	or    MLRGDM@DCT.AC.UK

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Sep 07 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!mbfs.bio.cam.ac.uk!seb1005
From: seb1005@mbfs.bio.cam.ac.uk (Steven Brenner)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: MolScript
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.111019.18728@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
Date: 8 Sep 93 11:10:19 GMT
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yagi2@SCRIPPS.EDU (Akemi Yagi/BCR7 4-8094) writes:

>Hello,

>If you know of a program named MolScript, would you let me know where
>I can find it?  This program presumably produces ribbon-type figures
>from PDB data files.  Thank you.

>Akemi

From the documentation:
---
     Copyright and licenses
     ======================

The program source code has been copyrighted by the author. The program may
NOT be distributed freely. If you wish to obtain a copy, contact Per Kraulis
for instructions. Generally, you should send an appropriate tape to him.
He will return it with source code, documentation and example input files,
together with a license agreement to be signed and returned. Alternatively,
you may ask for permission to copy the program from some other lab.
There is no fee for academic institutions. The address is:

Dr Per Kraulis
Center for Structural Biochemistry
Karolinska Institute
Novum
S-141 57 Huddinge
SWEDEN

phone +46  8 608 9266
fax   +46  8 608 9290
email pjk@oyster.csb.ki.se
-----


Hope this helps.
-- 
Steven E. Brenner               |  Department of Biochemistry      
seb1005@mbfs.bio.cam.ac.uk      |  University of Cambridge         
Lab   +44 223 333671            |  Tennis Court Road              
Fax   +44 223 333345            |  Cambridge CB2 1QW, UK          

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 08 23:00:00 1993
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From: sspencer@macc.wisc.edu (Stephan Spencer)
Newsgroups: bionet.xtallography,bionet.software,bionet.info-theory
Subject: CHAOS AND PROTEIN FOLDING
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I would like to know if it sounds feasible to come up with a strange
attractor for protein folding in aqueous solution, and if so, can you
predict tertiary structure with this strange attractor?

Does anybody have any ideas about this subject? It seems to me that chaos
theory would be very pertinent to the area of protein-protein interactions,
protein-dna interactions and protein-solvent interactions. Are there people
working on this in the scientific community?

Stephan Spencer
University of Wisconsin, Biochemistry
sspencer@macc.wisc.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 08 23:00:00 1993
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From: wmesser@uoft02.utoledo.edu (William S. Messer, Jr., Ph.D.)
Newsgroups: bionet.software,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Curve Fitting
Message-ID: <wmesser.1097911679B@131.183.1.4>
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In Article <lwalsh.746482305@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, lwalsh@nemo.life.uiuc.edu
(Laura L. Walsh) wrote:
>We am looking for a program which will do curve fitting
>using multiple exponentials.  We need a fairly simple
>program which will run on a Macintosh and which is
>cheap.  We have access to Mathematica, but so far haven't
>found it easy enough to use for this purpose.  My guess
>is that Igor will do this, but I understand that is
>isn't cheap.  Any other ideas?
>Laura Walsh (lwalsh@nemo.life.uiuc.edu)

I am not sure that it will do multiple exponentials without some user-defined
help, but DeltaGraph Pro could be useful.  It does provide an exponential 
function "built-in" and has the capacity to accept user defined functions.  Of
course cheap is a relative term -- but I have seen ads selling DeltaGraph Pro
as part of a bundle for $99.  
I have used DeltaGraph Pro to do some nonlinear curve fitting for
pharmacological data, and have been fairly pleased with the results.  It does
allow you to define and save your own functions for later use.  
Hope this is of some use to you.
Bill Messer

WMESSER@uoft02.utoledo.edu

Department of Medicinal and Biological Chemistry
College of Pharmacy
The University of Toledo

Phone:  (419) 537-4098
FAX:    (419) 537-4940

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 08 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!mrccrc!nimr.mrc.ac.uk!a-aszodi
From: a-aszodi@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Andras Aszodi)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Curve-fitting sums of exponentials: variation on the theme
Message-ID: <1993Sep9.112119.11364@crc.ac.uk>
Date: 9 Sep 93 11:21:19 GMT
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Fitting sums of exponentials is indeed very tricky and can be
ill-conditioned. Do not blame the least-squares for this, it is
because of the exponentials.

The Pade'-Laplace approximation does a very attractive thing.
Namely, it relies on the Laplace transform which is essentially
an integral. Integrals are lovely because (due to their "averaging"
nature) they 'smooth' the data, rendering them more tractable by
numerical analysis (i.e. parameter estimation in this case).

However, be warned: there are no wonders. IMHO everyone should
refrain from fitting complicated models to noisy data -- and ALL
data are noisy in biology. Try to prune your models first,
do not attempt estimating more than, say, 3 parameters. Perform
sensitivity analysis, hunt down hidden relationships between
parameters, always test your estimated correlation matrix
to see the eigenvalue spectrum... I'm speaking from experience;
I have suffered enough ;-)

Good luck to all fitters,

    ,
Andras

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From: deleage@ibcp.fr (G.Delage)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: ANTHEPROT availability
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--
Hi
The ANTHEPROT package is now available by anonymous ftp to ibcp.fr

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 08 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!THEORY.BCHS.UH.EDU!dbd
From: dbd@THEORY.BCHS.UH.EDU (Dan Davison)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: New Journal-Call for Papers: Computational Biology
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CALL FOR PAPERS

Announcing a new quarterly peer-reviewed journal

COMPUTATIONAL BIOLOGY

Editors:

Daniel B. Davison, Ph.D.	David T. Kingsbury, Ph.D.
University of Houston		Johns Hopkins University, School of Medicine

Thomas Marr, Ph.D.		Michael S. Waterman, Ph.D.
Cold Spring Harbor Labs		University of Southern California


Goals: First, to provide a forum for communication of scientific and
technical issues  associated with the analysis and management of 
biological information at the molecular level.  COMPUTATIONAL BIOLOGY 
will accept papers on the computational, mathematical, and statistical 
aspects of molecular biology.  This includes sequence comparisons, 
analysis and searching; DNA and protein sequence determination; DNA 
topological structure; protein structure; RNA secondary and tertiary 
structure; genetic mapping; physical mapping; molecular evolution 
including phylogenetic reconstructions; parallel methods of 
computation; design and implementation of biological databases; 
biological expert system design and use; application of artificial 
intelligence methods to biological systems.

Second, to provide a forum for the exchange of problems and methods 
between and within the biological and the mathematical/computational 
communities.  This will be accomplished by soliciting mini-reviews 
in diverse areas, and by providing a forum for the informal exchange 
of theories and experimental approaches.

The growth of molecular biology has produced large amounts of complex 
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 08 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!ted.bocklabs.wisc.edu!user
From: sspencer@macc.wisc.edu (Stephan Spencer)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Electronic newsletter "Using Mac in Mol Bio"
Message-ID: <sspencer-090993150841@ted.bocklabs.wisc.edu>
Date: 9 Sep 93 20:11:11 GMT
Followup-To: bionet.software
Organization: University of Wisconsin
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NNTP-Posting-Host: ted.bocklabs.wisc.edu

Does anyone know how to get ahold of Dr. Peter Markiewicz's electronic
newsletter "Using the Apple Macintosh in Molecular Biology"?

Thanks...

Stephan Spencer
University of Wisconsin, Biochemistry
sspencer@macc.wisc.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Sep 08 23:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!NET.BIO.NET!kristoff
From: kristoff@NET.BIO.NET (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: IMPORTANT BIOSCI INFORMATION
Message-ID: <9309090900.AA22536@net.bio.net>
Date: 9 Sep 93 09:00:02 GMT
Sender: kristoff@net.bio.net
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Three important items follow: BIOSCI archive searching by e-mail, the
BIOSCI FAQ, and the BIOSCI User Address Directory form.  If you have
not yet listed yourself in our e-mail address directory, please take a
few minutes to complete and return the form below.  If your address
information has changed since you listed yourself, please send us an
updated form.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				kristoff@net.bio.net



	  **** SEARCHING BIOSCI ARCHIVES WITH WAISMAIL ****

E-mail users can search the BIOSCI archives by using our waismail
e-mail server.  For instructions send the message

help

to waismail@net.bio.net.  Leave the Subject: line blank.  Other
methods of searching the archives via WAIS and gopher are described in
the BIOSCI FAQ.


       **** BIOSCI FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ) SHEET ****

New users of BIOSCI/bionet may want to read the "Frequently Asked
Questions" or "FAQ" sheet for BIOSCI.  The FAQ provides details on how
to participate in these forums and is available for anonymous FTP from
net.bio.net [134.172.2.69] in pub/BIOSCI/biosci.FAQ.  It may also be
requested by sending e-mail to biosci@net.bio.net (use plain English
for your request).  The FAQ is also posted on the first of each month
to the newsgroup BIONEWS/bionet.announce immediately following the
posting of the BIOSCI information sheet.


	       **** BIOSCI USER ADDRESS DIRECTORY ****

Please take this opportunity to add your name and address information
to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have not already done so.

Below is the address form that we would like each reader of the
BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups to complete and return if you would like to
be listed in our database.  The database serves as a directory that
enables biologists, who are currently using (or even just reading) the
BIOSCI newsgroups, to look up e-mail addresses and other information
about our users.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WAIS and waismail access
(waismail is our WAIS e-mail server, more below) and will also be
available for access via other gopher sites if they wish to permit it.
The raw unindexed data is available for FTP from net.bio.net and is
atomized sufficiently to allow import into your local RDBMS should you
so desire.

Please carefully follow the instructions for completing the form
below and return it to either of the following two addresses
(whichever is more convenient for you).  Thanks in advance for taking
the time to complete and return the form.

Addresses for returning forms         Location        Network
-----------------------------         --------        -------
biovote@net.bio.net                   U.S.A.          Internet/BITNET
biovote@daresbury.ac.uk               U.K.            JANET


	     MAKING SURE THAT YOUR INFORMATION IS CURRENT

This notice will be mailed bimonthly to each newsgroup.  You should
check our WAIS source or waismail e-mail server from time-to-time to
see if your address information is still up-to-date.  Send the message

help

to waismail@net.bio.net for instructions on using waismail.  Leave the
Subject: line in your message blank.


		  Using Gopher to complete the form
                  ---------------------------------

If you don't want to use a text editor, you can also use Dan
Jacobson's gopher site to fill out the address database form as
follows.  Otherwise skip this section on gopher and proceed to the
instructions for filling out the form below.

> To add yourself to the database just point your
> gopher client at merlot.welch.jhu.edu and select the following:
> 
> -->  15. Searching For Biologists/
> 
>  -->  9.  E-mail Addresses of Biosci-Bionet Users/
> 
>   -->  1.  Add (or Correct) Your Address to the BIOSCI User Address
> Data..
> 
> 
> And fill out the form.

or Rob Harper's gopher site in Europe as follows:

> Europeans can point their gopher client at gopher.csc.fi and add their
> information to the database. All entries will be mailed directly to
> Dave for incorporation in a wais source.
> 
> The path to the questionare is as follows.
> 
>    ---> 10. Finnish EMBnet BioBox/
> 
>         ---> 8.  FAQ Files/
> 
>                               FAQ Files
> 
>       1.  EMBnet: Information.
>       2.  EMBnet: Internet resources guide.
>       3.  A Biologist's Guide to Internet Resources/
>       4.  All FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) Searches and Archives/
>   --->5.  Bionauts Address Database (questionaire) <TEL>


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DO NOT DELETE THEM FROM THE FORM OR ALTER THEM.  One suggested use is
to list the names of the newsgroups in which you participate.  Please
use the MAILING LIST name (see below - the latest version of the list
can be requested from biosci@net.bio.net) instead of the USENET name
even if you don't participate by e-mail.  WAIS might get confused by
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or waismail the list of participants in a particular group.

For example:

comment: ARABIDOPSIS PLANT-BIOLOGY BIONEWS

On the comment: lines
use these names below ---- NOT the USENET names below

MAILING LIST NAME          USENET Newsgroup Name
-----------------          ---------------------
ACEDB-SOFT                 bionet.software.acedb
AGEING                     bionet.molbio.ageing
AGROFORESTRY               bionet.agroforestry
ARABIDOPSIS                bionet.genome.arabidopsis
BIOFORUM                   bionet.general
BIO-INFORMATION-THEORY     bionet.info-theory
BIONAUTS                   bionet.users.addresses
BIONEWS                    bionet.announce
BIO-JOURNALS               bionet.journals.contents
BIO-MATRIX                 bionet.molbio.bio-matrix
BIO-SOFTWARE               bionet.software
CHROMOSOMES                bionet.genome.chromosomes
COMPUTATIONAL-BIOLOGY      bionet.biology.computational
DROSOPHILA                 bionet.drosophila
EMBL-DATABANK              bionet.molbio.embldatabank
EMPLOYMENT                 bionet.jobs
GDB                        bionet.molbio.gdb
GENBANK-BB                 bionet.molbio.genbank
GENETIC-LINKAGE            bionet.molbio.gene-linkage
HIV-MOLECULAR-BIOLOGY      bionet.molbio.hiv
HUMAN-GENOME-PROGRAM       bionet.molbio.genome-program
IMMUNOLOGY                 bionet.immunology
INFO-GCG                   bionet.software.gcg
JOURNAL-NOTES              bionet.journals.note
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS       bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts
MOLECULAR-EVOLUTION        bionet.molbio.evolution
NEUROSCIENCE               bionet.neuroscience
N2-FIXATION                bionet.biology.n2-fixation
PHOTOSYNTHESIS             bionet.photosynthesis
PLANT-BIOLOGY              bionet.plants
POPULATION-BIOLOGY         b