From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
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From: vjongene@isrec-sun1.unil.ch (Victor Jongeneel)
Newsgroups: bionet.software,sci.image.processing
Subject: Analysis of BioRad confocal Z-series
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Hello Netters!

Sorry if my question qualifies as a FAQ.  We are generating many confocal 
"slices" through biological samples (Z series) using a BioRad system.  
Reconstitution of 3D objects from these serial slices is currently done using 
the BioRad sofware on a PC clone, thus painfully slow and not very good.

As we will acquire an SGI graphics station (Indigo2 with all the goodies), we 
would like to move the analysis to this machine.  To do this, we have found
two apparently suitable programs so far:  VoxelView, supposedly very good but 
also expensive, and Synu from Steve Lamont, a little more limited but also 
almost free.

I would appreciate hearing about any experiences collected with these two 
packages, and even more about other possibilities.

Thanks to all!

Victor J.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
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From: Rob.Harper@csc.fi (Rob Harper)
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Subject: NCSA Mosaic for the Macintosh 1.0.1
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NCSA is proud to announce the 1.0.1 release of NCSA Mosaic for the
Macintosh.
1.0.1 was released Wednesday, November 24, 1993  at 3:35 pm (central time).

NCSA Mosaic is an application that allows the user to easily access
networked information from all over the world with the click of a button.  
The Internet is the primary source of networked information to the
University and scientific communities.  Services to access this information
are rapidly being created.  A few examples of the services currently
available are Gopher, WAIS, World Wide Web, FTP, Usenet News, Telnet, and
Archie.  NCSA Mosaic is designed to provide transparent, seamless access to
nearly all of these information sources and services.  In addition it gives
the user a mechanism to retrieve and display a wide variety of data types. 
These types include text, images, movies, sound and scientific data.   

NCSA Mosaic for the Macintosh can be download via anonymous ftp from
ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu directory Mac/Mosaic.

The bugs and improvements of 1.0.1 release:  For a complete list of
features check the Macintosh home page.
 

New Features..........
  - Speed. Mosaic is significantly faster now, especially if you have fast
network.
  - Domain names are cashed if you are using MacTCP 2.0+, resulting in
faster downloads
  - "Open URL..." menu item is active even if there are no documents open.
  - HTTP 0.9 loading option. Because of incompatibilities between protocols
       this option has been added. If you are having problems with HTTP 0.9
server,
       switch this option on before loading documents from it. An example
of this is
       http://slacvm.slac.stanford.edu:5080/FIND/spires.
  - Images stored in the cache are loaded automatically, even if "Auto-load
images" 
       option is off.
  - Inline images will be loaded to disk if "Load to disk" option is on.
  - The cache can be flushed from the menu.
  - Images are dithered on machines without color Quickdraw.

Bugs...............
  - Mosaic would not start up unless a printer was chosen.
  - &quot; HTML entity is now recognized.
  - redirected URLs (in HTTP 1.0 protocol) work for all protocols.
  - Memory problems have been fixed. Mosaic will run well in 2 megabytes.
  - Nested numbered lists are now always numbered correctly.
  - Text files are single-spaced.
  - All the files (even the last one) are listed in the FTP directories.


Please send any questions, comments, bugs or suggestions to
mosaic-mac@ncsa.uiuc.edu

NCSA Mosaic for the Mac Development Team.
Aleks Totic, Tom Redman, Kim Stephenson & Mike McCool
University of Illinois
National Center for Supercomputing Applications
152 CAB
605 E. Springfield
Champaign, IL  61820

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You may want to check out Jandel Scientifics software products.  They
support tablets, etc.  I'm not sure what their current release products
include, but I've used JAVA, SigmaScan and related programs in the past. 
Alternatives might include, for pre-digitized images, VOXL-view from Bio-Rad.

Marc

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Please place me on the Bio-Soft mailing list.  Thank you.
Steve Rego

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
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From: cepgl@scri.scot-agric-res-inst.ac.uk (Graham Lewis)
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Hello evrybody,
              We currently store weather data using a PC based data manipulation 
program called Power-system. We have some models written in a pascal dialect 
thst run within Power-system, reading the weather data files directly. 
Unfortunately this makes the models non-portable (unless you also have 
Power-system. Also, Power-system is a bit olde Worlde in its user interface. 
I have rewritten the models in Borlands Turbo Pascal to take weather data as 
ASCII files. We are considering changing the way we manage the weather data by
storing the data as spreadsheets using Borlands Quatro Pro. I would like my 
Turbo pascal programs to read Quatro Pro spreadsheet files directly (without 
first converting them to ASCII. Does anybody know how I do this? What I 
suppose I am asking is ; What is the format of a Quatro Pro spreadsheet file?

Graham                                                           
                                                                     
The Scottish Crop Research Institute                                                
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Dundee
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email : cepgl@uk.ac.sari.scri              -----------------------------------

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
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From: jow@helix.nih.gov (Jim Owens)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Blast and fasta, what's the difference?
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Recently some coworkers have been sequencing some cDNAs derived from
differential display analysis so they are likely to come up with some
unknown sequences.  We have three ways to proceed in searching the
sequence databases:

1) Blast on the (US) National Library of Medicine computer
(blast@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)
2) fasta on the GCG package on a local UNIX machine
3) MacVector search of a database on a local Macintosh

A preliminary Blast search with the first 30 bases of sequence of a
differential display product there was a nearly perfect match to a
cockroach protein.  However, after 100 more bases was added to the
unknown cDNA, the Blast search came up with several other hits with
lesser matches, but the cockroach cDNA was not among them.
A fasta search came up with a different collection of hits.

Why did the Blast search lose the cockroach sequence when the length of
the query sequence was changed, even though none of the new hits gave as
many bases matched?  What are the differences in output due to?  What are
the differences between fast and BLAST and the Pustell matrix (used by
MacVector)?

Explanations I have read are either too technical or so simple that the
differences are unclear.  Is there a FAQ for laymen that explains the
difference between a local and global homology search?  Or explains the
advantages and disadvantages of BLAST vs. fasta searches?

Thanks in advance.

Jim Owens
____________________________________________________
The Secretary denies any knowledge of my activities.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
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From: rcwieg@ccmail.monsanto.com (Roger Wiegand)
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Subject: Re: Sequencher vs Applied Biosystems
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Sequencher ought to be a better program at about 10X the cost*!! How about
comparing apples and apples? (note I've not used either one "for real" yet
and am not commenting on their relative merit)

*6-10 user packod seqed vs a 5 user network licenceof sequencher

-- 
Thanks,
Roger Wiegand

rcwieg@ccmail.monsanto.com

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
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From: wrp@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (William R. Pearson)
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Subject: Fasta updates
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	New versions of the FASTA package of programs are available
from "virginia.EDU" in pub/fasta/fasta16c24b.shar(.Z) and
pub/fasta/beta/fasta16c31a.shar(.Z).  The programs have been belatedly
modified to read the current EMBL format and the beta/fasta16c31.shar
program has been more extensively tested (and corrected) to work with
the NCBI BLASTP/N formats.

Bill Pearson

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
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Harry Mangalam (mangalam@uci.edu) wrote:
: In article <jasons-181193091254@hugo.medgen.uu.se>,
: jasons@perrier.embnet.se (jason stewart) wrote:

: > I began hearing about the ABI Inherit system which was to come with a Sun
: > and another box stuffed full of Fast Data Finder chips for doing homology
: > searching/sequence alignment. They were having a problem with finding a
: > service rep. here in Europe so it never seems to have taken off over on
: > this side of the ocean.

This sounds quite similar to the system which will be installed here by
another (not our) group. I was told today that it comes with a SparcStation
10 and would be able to run a FASTA in 20 seconds :-) Maybe that answers
Harry's question:

: [...] the rep
: couldn't tell me what the advantages were over BLAST/fasta.  I can't see
: anyone spending that kind of $ on such a specialized piece of hardware [...]

The system will be installed in December or January.

--Cornelius.

--
/* Cornelius Krasel, Abt. Lohse, Genzentrum, D-82152 Martinsried, Germany */
/* email: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de                 fax: +49 89 8578 3975 */
/* "People are DNA's way of making more DNA." (R. Dawkins/anonymous)      */

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From: adrianw@deepthnk.kiwi.gen.nz (Adrian Walden)
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 08:25:55 NZ
Subject: Help, Labtutor address ??
Please forward this message to bionet.software ,Internet
Message follows:


Macworld September 1993 contains a review of a hypercard stack called Labtutor
2.0. This product was developed at Stanford University and is now produced by
a company called J K Eaton. Can somebody please advise me of their address
(email or postal). Thanks.
Adrian.

- Adrian
       _/_/_/   _/_/_/_/       Adrian Walden
      _/    _/    _/          Deep Thought BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
     _/    _/    _/          A FirstClass(tm) Macintosh GUI BBS
    _/_/_/      _/          Internet: adrianw@deepthought.kiwi.gen.nz

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
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Subject: Re: Blast and fasta, what's the difference?
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In Article <1993Nov24.200507.14929@alw.nih.gov> "Jim Owens <jow@helix.nih.gov>" says:
> 
> 1) Blast on the (US) National Library of Medicine computer
> (blast@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)
> 2) fasta on the GCG package on a local UNIX machine
> 3) MacVector search of a database on a local Macintosh
> 
> Is there a FAQ for laymen that explains the advantages and disadvantages
> of BLAST vs. fasta searches?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Jim Owens
> ____________________________________________________
> The Secretary denies any knowledge of my activities.
> 
I have the exact same setup, and would like to know the same answer.  Please
post a summary or email  me the answer you get.  Thanks.
	Leonard N. Bloksberg
	Bloksber@pilot.msu.edu
.
.

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From: frist@ccu.umanitoba.ca
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Subject: Re: DNA restriction analysis in PASCAL
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In article <1993Nov24.163243.5916@genes.icgeb.trieste.it> oberto@genes.icgeb.trieste.it (Jacques Oberto) writes:
>Hi All:
>
>Does anybody have PASCAL source code to do restriction
>enzyme analysis of a DNA sequence?
>Any help or pointer welcome.
>Thanks
>
>Jacques.
>
>
>-- 
>Jacques Oberto  <oberto@genes.icgeb.trieste.it>

The following programs are available as both Pascal Source and executables,
for both DOS and Unix, as part of the FSAP package:

INTREST - interactive restriction site search
BACHREST - batch        "          "     "   ; now works with REBASE
DIGEST - given output file from BACHREST, allows user to predict multiple
         enzyme digest patterns, for complete or partial digests

All programs are available by anonymous FTP to the directory 'psgendb'
at ftp.cc.umanitoba.ca.

See README in this directory for more information.

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
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From: danj@dev.gdb.org (Dan Jacobson)
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Subject: Re: PDB files for non-proteins
Keywords: pdb, data, molecular coordinates, molecules
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In article <2dbt53$q1f@clarknet.clark.net> chinatom@clark.net (Tom Wiens) writes:
>Does anyone know of an online data source similar to the Protein Data Bank, 
>which provides xyz coordinates for molecules other than proteins (e.g., 
>organics or simple inorganic compounds), making possible the modelling of 
>their physical structure?
>
>


The database that your looking for is probably the  
Cambridge Structural Database (CSD).  Below is a brief description
of the Database and some people to contact for more information
on accessing it. 

There's also the NDB (Nucleic Acid Database)  which is a 3D structure database
for Nucleic Acid based molecules - ie DNA ...  You can access this by gopher
at ndb.rutgers.edu path=1/etc/ndb_link_files


Best of luck,

Dan Jacobson

danj@mail.gdb.org


-----------


     The CSD contains the most comprehensive collection of evaluated
     crystallographic data in the world.  Data for about 80,000 organic
     and organometallic crystal structures  were included in the CSD as
     of January, 1991.  Atomic coordinates, chemical connectivity
     tables, bibliographic data fields including reference sources for
     the data, and coordinates for chemical structure diagrams for each
     molecule are part of the system....  About 8000 new crystal
     structures will be added to the data base yearly.

The contact in the U.K. is:

            Dr. Olga Kennard
            C.C.D.C.
            University Chemical Laboratory
            Lensfield Road
            Cambridge,  CB2 1EW
            U.K.
            [011-44] 223-336409


A contact in the U.S. is probably:

Investigator: Charles L Coulter
Sponsor     : National Institute of Health National Center for Research Resour
              Biomedical Research Technology Program
              Westwood Bldg Rm 8A15
              Bethesda, MD 20892                            

Phone       : (301) 496-9840

or 

William Duax
Medical Foundation of Buffalo, Inc.
73 High Street
Buffalo, NY  14203

Phone:  (716) 856-9600
email:  acamjv%mfb@ubvms.bitnet

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From: IMEG@psuvm.psu.edu
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Subject: MEGA: Mol. Evol. Gen. Analysis. Info
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This document contains many pages, including
1. Cover letter
2. Order form  (We no longer accept purchase orders)
3. Hardware and software requirements
4. Program upgrade policy
5. Functions in MEGA


               MEGA version 1.0, 1.01


                                                September, 1993


To whom it may concern:

     A computer software called MEGA: Molecular Evolutionary
Genetics Analysis has been developed.  This software is for
facilitating statistical studies of molecular evolution by
using IBM compatible personal computers.  It contains
various methods of estimating evolutionary distances and
three different methods of phylogenetic inference (UPGMA,
neighbor-joining, and maximum parsimony) with either a
standard-error test or a bootstrap test of topological
differences.  For the maximum parsimony method, new
algorithms of the branch-and-bound and heuristic searches
are implemented.  MEGA also computes basic statistical
quantities such as nucleotide and amino acid frequencies,
transition/transversion bias, codon usage frequencies,
number of variable sites, etc.  In addition, advance on-
screen sequence data and phylogenetic tree editors are
included.  Integrated and interactive designs, on-line
context-sensitive helps, text-file editor, and other unique
features make it easy to use MEGA.

     MEGA version 1.0 is distributed with a nominal fee to
defray the cost of producing the user manual (140 pp.) and diskettes,
and the mailing and handling expenses (see enclosed order form).
However, for anyone who is unable to pay the fee for some
reason, it will be provided free of charge after receiving a
letter explaining the circumstances.  MEGA will not be sent
by electronic-mail because the accompanying manual cannot be
included in this case.

     Technical questions and other inquires about MEGA
should be directed to the senior author of the software.
Please include your electronic-mail address, if any.

                              Sincerely yours,

                              Sudhir Kumar
                              Koichiro Tamura
                              Masatoshi Nei

                              Telephone:  (814) 863-7334
                              FAX:        (814) 863-7336
                              E-mail:     imeg@psuvm,
                                          imeg@psuvm.psu.edu




                    MEGA ORDER FORM

Cost*
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Program                                                 No Charge
User manual, diskette, shipping, and handling           $ 15.00
For shipment outside North America add $10.00           _________
                   (We will use first class airmail)
TOTAL                                                   _________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
* This cost can be waived if the circumstances for the inability to
pay (e.g., lack of hard currencies in some countries) are explained.


Diskette type desired:             Please specify:
[ ] 3.5" Diskette (1.44MB)         [ ] DOS Version ......
[ ] 5.25" Diskette (1.2MB)         [ ] Computer system...
[ ] other (specify)....            [ ] Do you use windows? Yes/No

All orders must be prepaid in U.S. dollars. Return this form together
with a check or money order payable to Penn State University at the
following address. Purchase orders will not be accepted.

     Joyce White
     Institute of Molecular Evolutionary Genetics
     The Pennsylvania State University
     328 Mueller Laboratory
     University Park, PA   16802 USA

     Telephone:  (814)-863-7334
     Fax:        (814)-863-7336
     E-mail:     IMEG@PSUVM.PSU.edu, IMEG@PSUVM


About the user:
Name:       ____________________________________________
Address:    ____________________________________________
            ____________________________________________
            ____________________________________________
Telephone:  _____________________ Fax: _________________
E-Mail:     ____________________________________________


--------Hardware and Software------

  IBM and IBM-compatible PCs, XTs, ATs, etc.
  Color/monochrome monitors.
  640KB RAM memory.
  DOS version 3.3 or later.
  Hard disk with 2MB free.

  No extended or expanded memory required.
  No graphics adapters required.
  No math-chip required.

  Supports the keyboard as well as the mouse (not essential).


------- Program upgrade policy ----

Since MEGA is in its first version, there may be many software
bugs in the program.  We are considering to provide registered users
a version where bugs reported in version 1.0 and 1.01 will be fixed.  As you
may notice from the order form, we are just trying to recover the
cost of  distributing MEGA only. So we are not in a position to
provide many upgrades.  In any case, we do not plan to include new
methods in MEGA soon (for at least one year), and therefore the
questions about upgrades may not be so pressing at this moment.


-------Functions in MEGA-------

Input

   Input data:
      DNA sequences
      RNA sequences
      Amino acid sequences
      Distance matrices

   Input formats:
      Interleaved sequences
      Non-interleaved sequences
      Upper-triangular distance matrix
      Lower-triangular distance matrix

   Choice of:
      Alignment gap symbol
      Missing-information site symbol
      Identical site symbol


In-memory data editing features

   Selection:
      Desired OTUs
      Domains of sequences
      Individual sites and codons
      Codon positions
      Exclude/include missing information sites
      Exclude/include alignment gap sites

   Edit OTU labels
   Restore OTU labels


Sequence data presentation

   Highlight:
      Variable sites
      Parsimony-informative sites
      Two-fold redundant sites
      Four-fold redundant sites

   Translate:
      Translation of nucleotide sequences into amino acid sequences

   Output:
      Formats:
         MEGA
         PAUP
         PHYLIP
         Publication
      Data subsets:
         Only variable sites
         Only parsimony-informative sites
         Amino acid sequences translated
         Codon positions
      Sequence statistics:
         Nucleotide and amino acid frequencies
         Nucleotide pair frequencies in pairwise comparisons
         Insertion-deletion frequencies
         Codon usage frequencies
         Relative synonymous codon usage (RSCU) values
         Variable sites in overlapping segments
         Variable sites in nonoverlapping segments


Distance estimation

   Nucleotide substitutions
      Quantities:
         Number of nucleotide differences
         Nucleotide substitutions
         Transitional substitutions
         Transversional substitutions
         Transition/transversion ratio
      Distance measures:
         p-distance
         Jukes-Cantor distance
         Kimura 2-parameter distance
         Tajima-Nei distance
         Tamura distance
         Tamura-Nei distance
         Gamma distances
            Jukes-Cantor model
            Kimura 2-parameter model
            Tamura-Nei model

   Synonymous-nonsynonymous substitutions
      Genetic code tables:
         "Universal"
         Mammalian mitochondrial
         Drosophila mitochondrial
         Yeast mitochondrial
      Computation:
         Synonymous substitutions
         Nonsynonymous substitutions
         Average distances for all pairwise comparisons
         and standard errors

   Amino acid substitutions
      Distance measurers:
         Number of amino acid differences
         p-distance
         Poisson-correction distance
         Gamma distance

   Distance output:
      Control on:
         Page size
         Precision for distance output
         Distance q standard error formats


Tree building and test

   Methods:
      Neighbor-joining (NJ)
      UPGMA
      Maximum parsimony (MP):
         Branch-and-bound search
         Heuristic search

   Statistical Tests:
      Bootstrap test:
         Neighbor-joining
         UPGMA
      Branch length test:
         Neighbor-joining

   Phylogeny editing:
      Tree re-rooting
      Swapping and flipping branches
      Consensus tree
      Condensed tree


   Phylogeny printing:
      Various printers
      Multiple page printouts
      Choice of fonts
      Choice of orientation
      Choice of page size
      Tree preview


General functions

   File browsing
   File editing
   Exiting to DOS temporarily
   Context-sensitive Helps
   Error messages

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!CS.Arizona.EDU!organpipe.uug.arizona.edu!uunet!math.fu-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!uni-muenster.de!uni-muenster.de!haebler
From: haebler@uni-muenster.de (Marcus Haebler)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Molecule Design Program for X11
Message-ID: <2dkqpj$1atn@obelix.uni-muenster.de>
Date: 2 Dec 93 13:32:35 GMT
Organization: Westf. Wilh.-Universitaet Muenster, Germany
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: urix6.uni-muenster.de

Hi,

I have found a hint that there was a free Molecule Designer for X. Can someone
tell me where I can find the stuff?

Thanx,

Marcus


-- 
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Dec 01 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!parc!decwrl!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!biosys!timb@apldbio.com
From: timb@apldbio.com (Tim Burcham)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: ABI Inherit software/hardware
Message-ID: <693@biosys.apldbio.COM>
Date: 1 Dec 93 15:34:58 GMT
References: <mangalam-241193092429@ih33.hsis.uci.edu>
Sender: news@biosys.apldbio.COM
Reply-To: timb@apldbio.com
Followup-To: Re: ABI Inherit software/hardwre
Organization: Applied Biosystems, Inc.
Lines: 29


Harry writes:

>See: The Journal of NIH Research, Vol 5, No 10, p 81-82 for one (not very
>complementary) view of it.  I saw one at a local meeting but the rep
>couldn't tell me what the advantages were over BLAST/fasta.  I can't see
>anyone spending that kind of $ on such a specialized piece of hardware -
>well I guess I can - they built the B2, the space shuttle, and several
>billions worth of aircraft carriers.
>

I won't comment on most of this (I'm obviously biased ;-), but the article
cited should be considered an ADVERTISEMENT, not a research article. Look
for a response in an upcoming issue of Journal of NIH Research. The
INHERIT system used in the study was PRE-RELEASE TEST VERSION. INHERIT is
now undergoing it's fourth iteration since that test version was released.
The current iteration includes a MAJOR HARDWARE CHANGE from the test system
that was reviewed in Journal of NIH Research.

I sorry you didn't get a good demo. 

Look into Journal of NIH Research and their editorial policies. You will 
probably be as disgusted as I was...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tim Burcham                                                 Data Products R&D
timb@apldbio.com                                           Applied Biosystems
(415)570-6667                                           850 Lincoln Centre Dr
(800)874-9868                                           Foster City, CA 94404

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Dec 02 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!kristoff
From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: IMPORTANT!!! - BIOSCI at net.bio.net off-line this ENTIRE WEEKEND!!
Message-ID: <Dec.2.16.32.35.1993.3143@net.bio.net>
Date: 3 Dec 93 00:32:37 GMT
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology
Lines: 26

We are aware of continuing problems with duplicated messages and are
taking the BIOSCI system off-line from 5 PM Friday, 6 DEC, until
Monday AM.

The message duplication is caused by a relatively infrequent but
recurring file corruption problem that we have been experiencing with
our news message tracking database.  We will be doing a news system
software upgrade over the weekend.  All BIOSCI services including
e-mail, news, WAIS, Gopher, FTP archive access, etc. will be
inaccessible over the weekend, so here is your chance to take a short
break from e-mail overload 8-).

I am going to post this note to several of the more popular groups to
ensure that as many readers as possible see it.  My apologies if you
subscribe to several of these groups by e-mail - you will get one copy
for each group that you receive.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net




From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Dec 02 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!CUCIS.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU!ciminoj
From: ciminoj@CUCIS.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU (James Cimino)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Medical Informatics Fellowship
Message-ID: <9312031623.AA142254@cucis.cis.columbia.edu>
Date: 3 Dec 93 16:23:07 GMT
Sender: daemon@net.bio.net
Distribution: bionet
Lines: 63


                                     
                                     
                                     
                  Training Program in Medical Informatics



    The Columbia University Center for Medical Informatics invites
applications for fellowships in medical informatics starting in July, 1994.
The goal of the program is to train medical informatics scientists for
careers as productive researchers and teachers.  The fellowship is funded
by the National Library of Medicine, an agency of the National Institutes
of Health, and is open to U.S. citizens or permanent residents with an M.D.
or Ph.D. degree.  The Center is located at the Columbia-Presbyterian
Medical Center in New York City.  Columbia University is an equal
opportunity employer and takes affirmative action.  Women and minorities
are especially encouraged to apply.

    The Center for Medical Informatics has fourteen faculty members with
diverse backgrounds and an active research program.  Areas of special
interest include clinical information system development, clinical decision
support, computer-based learning, database design, natural language
processing, medical vocabularies, medical knowledge representation,
information retrieval strategies, physician data entry, genome mapping,
molecular modeling, and high performance computing and communication.  The
Center has close ties and joint appointments with the Departments of
Computer Science, Biochemistry, Medicine, Radiology, and Pathology and the
Schools of Dentistry, Nursing and Epidemiology.  Opportunities also exist
in the areas of computer applications in medical librarianship and computer
aided learning.  A particular strength of the Center is the ability to
provide research opportunities in the context of working production
systems.  We are seeking applicants who want a "hands on" experience while
carrying out innovative research and mastering a strong curriculum.

    Notable features of our environment include the Integrated Academic
Information Management System (IAIMS) Phase III implementation funded by
the National Library of Medicine, the full partnership of the Columbia
University Health Sciences Library in IAIMS and in the Center for Medical
Informatics, and close collaborative relationships with basic and clinical
science departments.

    The training program includes a stipend and tuition support for course
work in medical informatics, computer science, evaluation study design, and
biostatistics.  Educational programs will be individualized to address the
needs and directions of each fellow.  In addition, each fellow will be
expected to develop, conduct, and report on an original research project.
Opportunities exist for a masters and PhD degrees in Medical Informatics.
Support for each fellow will be for three years in most cases.  Stipends
are available and are in keeping with NIH post-doctoral guidelines.
Fellows who wish to maintain their clinical skills will be given
opportunities to do so.

    Applicants should send a letter of not more than two pages describing
their background, relevant experience, and motivation; transcripts from
medical or graduate school and from college; and a curriculum vita.
Letters of reference from three referees should be sent under separate
cover.

    Application materials should be sent to James J. Cimino, M.D., Atchley
Pavilion 1310, 161 Fort Washington Avenue, New York, NY 10032.  Additional
information may be obtained by calling Dr. Cimino at 212- 305-8127 or by e-
mail to ciminoj@cucis.cis.columbia.edu.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Dec 02 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!CS.Arizona.EDU!organpipe.uug.arizona.edu!uunet!news.claremont.edu!nntp-server.caltech.edu!seqvax.caltech.edu!mathog
From: mathog@seqvax.caltech.edu (David Mathog)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: PDBtoGCG (for VMS)
Message-ID: <2DEC199314460760@seqvax.caltech.edu>
Date: 2 Dec 93 22:46:00 GMT
Organization: Division of Biolgy, CALTECH
Lines: 221
NNTP-Posting-Host: seqvax.bio.caltech.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Sometimes users insist on having the sequences out of PDB files (even
though most of these can be retrieved from other databases).  It's a bit
of a pain to do manually, so here are a short script and a program
it uses that carry out this conversion automatically.  It only works
on protein sequences, and then only if the sequence(s) are properly
recorded in the SEQRES records (so sue me).  Each strand's sequence
is placed in a separate file.

The script is DCL, but the equivalent sh or csh shouldn't be too tough.
(Yes, the GCG conversion code could be put into hackem.for - feel free if
you think that it's worth the effort.) 

No guarantees, warranties, or etc :-)! 

David Mathog
mathog@seqvax.bio.caltech.edu
Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech 

*******  PDBtoGCG.COM  *****************************************************
$! ***************************************************************
$! PDBTOGCG.COM
$!
$! Command procedure to convert PDB sequence(s) to GCG sequence(s).
$! It will accept the name of the PDB file as a parameter, otherwise
$! it prompts for it.
$! This only works for PROTEIN sequences!
$!
$! Be sure to modify the RUN HACKEM line to match your site!
$!
$! David Mathog, CalTech Biology, 1-DEC-1993
$! ************************************************************
$ 
$       on control_y then goto terminate
$       ws := "write sys$output"
$       iq := inquire/nopunctuation
$
$ if (P1 .eqs."")
$then
$  iq pdbfile "Name of the PDB file to convert to GCG sequence format "
$  if pdbfile .nes. "" then goto okpdbname
$  ws "Message from PDBtoGCG:"
$  ws "Cannot convert unless you supply the name of a PDB file!"
$  ws "Conversion aborted"
$  stop
$else
$  pdbfile = P1
$endif
$okpdbname:
$!
$ open/write tfil killmepdbtogcg.com
$ write tfil "$run gcgexrun:hackem"
$ write tfil PDBFILE
$ close tfil
$ @killmepdbtogcg.com/out=nla0:
$ delete killmepdbtogcg.com.
$!
$ define/user sys$output nla0:
$ reformat/threeintoone/protein/default hackem*.pep
$ purge hackem*.pep
$!
$! now rename them
$!
$! extract the root part of the name for constructing the final output 
$! file's name
$!
$ file = F$SEARCH(PDBFILE)
$ root = f$parse(FILE,,,"NAME") ! root name of sequence
$!
$! rename any and all output files
$!
$count = 0
$TOP:
$ file = F$SEARCH("HACKEM*.PEP")
$ if(file .eqs. "")then goto byebye
$ count = count + 1
$ chunk = F$PARSE(FILE,,,"NAME")
$ chunk = chunk - "HACKEM"
$ chunk := "''ROOT'''chunk'.PEP"
$ rename 'file' 'chunk'
$ ws "Sequence ''count' in file ''chunk'"
$ goto TOP
$!
$BYEBYE:
$ delete hackem.out.
$ if count .eq. 0
$ then 
$   ws "PDBtoGCG: WARNING: no sequences were found in ''PDBFILE'"
$ else
$   ws "PDBtoGCG: Extracted ''COUNT' sequences from ''PDBFILE'"
$ endif
$!
$terminate:
***********  hackem.for  *************************************************
C	HACKEM.FOR
C
C	1-DEC-1993, David Mathog, biology division, Caltech
C
C	*Incredibly* simple minded program that takes a PDB file
C	and spits the SEQRES records out into separate files for
C	each chain for further processing by GCG REFORMAT.
C
C	Input:  The name of the PDB file
C	Output: hackem.out
C	           Number of Chains
C	           Names of files = hackem.chain_id
C	        hackem_1.pep
C	        hackem_A.pep
C	        hackem_2.pep etc.
C
C       Note, if a chain has NO NAME there will be a space in the 12
C	position.  In this case, the single output sequence will be named
C	hackem.pep.
C
C
C	SEQRES line format is:
C	     6A1     SEQRES
C             I4     Serial # for current chain
C	      1X     space
C	      A1     Chain identifier (any symbol!)
C	      1X     space
C	      I4     Number of residues in this chain
C	      1X     space
C       13(1X,A3)    Residue names, in three letter code format
C
C	plus, sometimes,  junk on the end
C
	implicit none
	character*200  file,listof,outfile
	character*132  line
	character*1    chain
	integer*4      status,linelen,filelen,count,i,outlen
	logical        OK
c
	write(6,*)'Name of the PDB file to process: '
	read(5,'(q,a)',iostat=status)filelen,file(1:filelen)
	if(status .ne. 0 .or. filelen .eq. 0)then
	   write(6,*)'HACKEM: using default input file of HACKEMPDB'
	   file = 'HACKEMPDB'
	   filelen=9
	end if
c
c	open the input file
c
	open(unit=10,file=file(1:filelen)
	1 ,form='FORMATTED',carriagecontrol='LIST',status='OLD'
	1 ,READONLY,iostat=status)
	if(status .ne. 0)
	1  stop 'HACKEM: fatal error, could not open PDB file'
c
c	scan it for SEQRES records
c	The initial chain value should NEVER occur in a PDB file!
c
	ok    = .true.
	chain = char(1)
	count = 0
c
	do while(ok)
	   read(10,'(q,a)',iostat=status)linelen,line(1:linelen)
	   if(status .eq. 0)then
	     if(line(1:6) .eq. 'SEQRES')then
	        if(chain .ne. line(12:12))then	!new chain
	          chain = line(12:12)
	          count = count + 1
	          listof(count:count) = chain
	          if(count.gt.0)close(11,dispose='SAVE')
	          call makename(outfile,outlen,chain)
	          open(unit=11,file=outfile(1:outlen)
	1         ,form='FORMATTED',carriagecontrol='LIST',status='NEW'
	1         ,iostat=status)
	          if(status .ne. 0)
	1            stop 'HACKEM: fatal error, could not open output file'
	          write(11,'(a)')'Sequence of chain '//chain//' from '
	1         //file(1:filelen)
	          write(11,'(a)')'..'
	        end if
	        if(linelen .gt. 70)linelen=70
	        write(11,'(a)')line(20:linelen)
	     else
	        if(count .ge. 1)ok = .false.
	     end if
	   else			!possibly an error, but treat it like an EOF
	     ok = .false.
	   end if
	end do
c
c	write out hacker.out - number of chains and names of files
c
	if(count.ge.1)close(unit=11,dispose='SAVE')
	open(unit=11,file='hackem.out'
	1  ,form='FORMATTED',carriagecontrol='LIST',status='NEW'
	1  ,iostat=status)
	if(status .ne. 0)
	1  stop 'HACKEM: fatal error, could not create "hackem.out"'
	write(11,'(I4)')count
	if(count.ge.1)then
	  do i = 1, count
	    call makename(outfile,outlen,listof(i:i))
	    write(11,'(a)')outfile(1:outlen)
	  end do
	end if
c
	close(unit=11,dispose='SAVE')
c
	stop 'HACKEM: processing completed'
	end

	subroutine makename(file,flen,chain)
	implicit none
	character*200 file
	character*1  chain
	integer*4    flen
	if(chain .eq. ' ')then
	  file = 'hackem.pep'
	  flen  = 10
	else
	  file = 'hackem_'//chain//'.pep'
	  flen  = 12
	end if
	return
	end
***** that's all folks ******************************************************

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Dec 02 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!kristoff
From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: ABI Inherit software/hardware
Message-ID: <Dec.2.22.00.17.1993.21598@net.bio.net>
Date: 3 Dec 93 06:00:18 GMT
References: <mangalam-241193092429@ih33.hsis.uci.edu> <693@biosys.apldbio.COM>
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology
Lines: 66

timb@apldbio.com (Tim Burcham) writes:

>Harry writes:

>>See: The Journal of NIH Research, Vol 5, No 10, p 81-82 for one (not very

(stuff deleted)

>I won't comment on most of this (I'm obviously biased ;-), but the article
>cited should be considered an ADVERTISEMENT, not a research article.

(more stuff deleted)

Tim,

A couple of people are beginning to send me requests to formalize the
guidelines for commercial discussions as has been done for job
postings, and, in light of the increasing commercial presence on the
net, I suppose it is getting time to do so.

I realize from personal experience that it is hard to simply sit by
and ignore flames thrown at one's products, but the tradition on the
net has been for the commercial folks to stand aside and let the users
discuss the pros and cons among themselves.  On the other hand, I have
clearly stated in the past that commercial companies can respond in a
factual manner to questions about their products.  Each one of these
situations has many gray aspects, of course, but the one point that I
do want everyone to be clear on is that commercial users should not
take general requests for information (such as "I am looking for
software that does X ...") as an opening to get some free air time.

This is clearly not what you are doing above, but you are allowing
yourself to get sucked into a flame war which you might be better off
avoiding.  A simple reply such as:

"We believe there are inaccuracies in this article.  A response to the
article cited will be appearing in XXX."

would be sufficient without comments about editorial policy, etc.
Instead your use of text such as

>I won't comment on most of this (I'm obviously biased ;-), but the article
>cited should be considered an ADVERTISEMENT, not a research article.

has prompted other private comments to me to the contrary including
questions about the appropriateness of your message.

As to those who want me to start writing the BIONET analog of the
"Koran," I hope that it is obvious to all that every one of these
situations has nuances that are hard to capture in rules.  This is why
NSFNET Acceptable Use policy has been so vague.

A good rule of thumb is to keep emotions out of this and stick to the
facts.  I don't want to sound threatening in the slightest, but
posters who go way out of line and actually make libelous statements
on the network are not exempt from libel laws.  Internet legal
precedent to date holds the poster of a message responsible for their
actions.  In summary, a level head is in order on all sides of the
debate.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Dec 03 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!mrccrc!news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk!warwick!uknet!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!csd.unb.ca!UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA
From: R7FA@UNB.CA (T. J.)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Looking for .gif reader
Message-ID: <03DEC93.02642739.0049@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>
Date: 3 Dec 93 06:26:49 GMT
Sender: usenet@UNB.CA
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Lines: 5

hi, i have Windows and Presentations but these packages can not read
gif files.  Would someone tell me how i can get a .gif reader?

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Dec 03 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!NBRF.GEORGETOWN.EDU!POSTMASTER
From: POSTMASTER@NBRF.GEORGETOWN.EDU
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: PDBtoGCG (for VMS)
Message-ID: <01H61GYLB6AE91VWQ6@NBRF.Georgetown.Edu>
Date: 3 Dec 93 15:46:26 GMT
Sender: daemon@net.bio.net
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In message <9312030024.AA02665@net.bio.net> David Mathog
(mathog@seqvax.bio.caltech.edu) says
> Sometimes users insist on having the sequences out of PDB files (even
> though most of these can be retrieved from other databases).  It's a bit
> of a pain to do manually, so here are a short script and a program
> it uses that carry out this conversion automatically.  It only works
> on protein sequences, and then only if the sequence(s) are properly
> recorded in the SEQRES records (so sue me).  Each strand's sequence
> is placed in a separate file.

The protein sequences from the Brookhaven Protein Data Bank entries have
already been extracted into a sequence file format and are provided by the PIR
in the NRL_3D database.  This database also includes all the source,
bibliographic and feature information extracted from PDB HELIX, SHEET, TURN,
SITE, and SSBOND records along with special ATOM and HETATM records.  The
NRL_3D database is indexed and can be searched and queried (and even converted
to other formats) like the other PIR sequence databases.

The NRL_3D entries have titles that conform to NBRF naming rules and match the
corresponding PIR entries.  The title field of NRL_3D entries contains all the
same elements as the corresponding PIR entries and in the same order.  However,
additional elements are present in the NRL_3D entries to distinguish entries
that may be chains or fragments with different crystallographic coordinates,
have different crystallization conditions, or have different chemical
modifications.  The NRL_3D title of an entry may not correspond to the
Brookhaven Protein Data Bank COMPND record from which it was originally derived
because all Enzyme Commission numbers have been changed to conform to the
current rules, and all co-crystallized protein chains from different sources
are distinguished and correctly identified.  A file of the NRL_3D titles can be
obtained by sending the E-Mail message
  SEND NRLTITLE.LIS
to FILESERV@NBRF.Georgetown.EDU (or GUNBRF.BITNET).

Release 12.2 of NRL_3D is currently available with the regular tape and CD-ROM
distribution of the PIR.  It is available for database searches and queries
through the PIR Network Request Server and the PIR On-Line Access System.  It
is available by FTP from the University of Houston Gene-Server at 
ftp.bchs.uh.edu and the NCBI archives at ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                 Dr. John S. Garavelli
                                 Database Coordinator
                                 Protein Information Resource
                                 National Biomedical Research Foundation
                                 Washington, DC  20007
                                 POSTMAST@GUNBRF.BITNET
                                 POSTMASTER@NBRF.GEORGETOWN.EDU

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Dec 03 22:00:00 1993
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From: EBERHARDT@RCF.MAYO.EDU
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: RE: Differential Display Analysis
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|>From:	FERMAT::"BIOSCI-REQUEST@net.bio.net"    1-DEC-1993 17:43:02.75
|>To:	bio-soft@net.bio.net
|>CC:	
|>Subj:	Differential Display Analysis
|>
|>
|>Jim Owens wrote -
|>
|>> Recently some coworkers have been sequencing some cDNAs derived from
|>> differential display analysis so they are likely to come up with some
|>> unknown sequences.
|>
|>Can somebody post an explanation of what the term "differential display 
|>analysis" means, or better yet a published reference where it's described?
|>
|>Thanks very much.
|>
|>Dave Merberg

	DDPCR is a method developed by Arthur Pardee's laboratory to display 
differences in the populations of two mRNA populations, e.g., cells treated 
with different effectors or normal and tumor cell lines, to visualize and 
enable the cloning of the differentially expressed genes.  It utilizes a 
random set of 20-26 5' primers of unique but differing sequence and a set of 
3' primers of the form NVTTTTTTTTTTT to anchor this primer at the 3' end of 
the polyA tail.  The products are relatively short (100-300 bp) that are 
displayed on sequencing gels.  The difference products can be recovered from 
the gels, reamplified and cloned, providing a unique 3' probe that can be 
compared with the data bases and used to clone a full lenth cDNA from a cDNA 
library.  References are cited below:

1.  Liang and Pardee, Science 257: 967-971 (1992).
2.  Liang et al. Nucl Acids Res 21: 3269-3275 (1993).
3.  Bauer et al. Nucl Acids Res 21: 4272-4280 (1993).

	A related technique has been devised by Michael Wigler's group to 
use PCR to clone the differences between two complex genomes.  The reference 
is Lisitsyn et al. Science 259: 946-951.

Hope this helps.

Norman L. Eberhardt, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Departments of Medicine and:
Biochemistry/Molecular Biology
4-407 Alfred
Mayo Clinic
Rochester, MN 55905
eberhardt@mayo.edu	


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From: danj@dev.gdb.org (Dan Jacobson)
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Subject: Re: PDB files for non-proteins
Keywords: pdb, data, molecular coordinates, molecules
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In article <2dbt53$q1f@clarknet.clark.net> chinatom@clark.net (Tom Wiens) writes:
>Does anyone know of an online data source similar to the Protein Data Bank, 
>which provides xyz coordinates for molecules other than proteins (e.g., 
>organics or simple inorganic compounds), making possible the modelling of 
>their physical structure?
>
>


The database that your looking for is probably the  
Cambridge Structural Database (CSD).  Below is a brief description
of the Database and some people to contact for more information
on accessing it. 

There's also the NDB (Nucleic Acid Database)  which is a 3D structure database
for Nucleic Acid based molecules - ie DNA ...  You can access this by gopher
at ndb.rutgers.edu path=1/etc/ndb_link_files


Best of luck,

Dan Jacobson

danj@mail.gdb.org


-----------


     The CSD contains the most comprehensive collection of evaluated
     crystallographic data in the world.  Data for about 80,000 organic
     and organometallic crystal structures  were included in the CSD as
     of January, 1991.  Atomic coordinates, chemical connectivity
     tables, bibliographic data fields including reference sources for
     the data, and coordinates for chemical structure diagrams for each
     molecule are part of the system....  About 8000 new crystal
     structures will be added to the data base yearly.

The contact in the U.K. is:

            Dr. Olga Kennard
            C.C.D.C.
            University Chemical Laboratory
            Lensfield Road
            Cambridge,  CB2 1EW
            U.K.
            [011-44] 223-336409


A contact in the U.S. is probably:

Investigator: Charles L Coulter
Sponsor     : National Institute of Health National Center for Research Resour
              Biomedical Research Technology Program
              Westwood Bldg Rm 8A15
              Bethesda, MD 20892                            

Phone       : (301) 496-9840

or 

William Duax
Medical Foundation of Buffalo, Inc.
73 High Street
Buffalo, NY  14203

Phone:  (716) 856-9600
email:  acamjv%mfb@ubvms.bitnet

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From: tisdall@amalthea.humgen.upenn.edu (James Tisdall)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Announcing: DNA WorkBench
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Announcing:

			DNA WorkBench

	A program for sequence searching and manipulation.

    * It's free.
    * It runs on Unix and Macs (and PCs - see below) with internet connections.
    * Powerful and fast searches on Genbank and other databases.
    * Client-server: access remote databases and programs.
    * Parallel distributed processing for huge databases of the near future.
    * Full automatic control: by script, command-line or standard input.
    * Enhancable - run your own programs on databases and search results.
    * Handles most sequence file formats silently - reformats easily.
    * Many sequence manipulation functions.
    * Convenient user interface, complete on-line help.


    HOW TO GET IT

    ftp cbil.humgen.upenn.edu (or, ftp 130.91.180.83)
    login as "anonymous", give your email address as a password

    cd /pub/dnaworkbench
    mget ANNOUNCE INSTALL README  (and, if you want, CHANGES and PERL-FAQ)
    For UNIX: cd unix
    For PC:   cd pc
    For MAC:  cd mac
    get dnaworkbench
    quit

    Please send mail to tisdall@cbil.humgen.upenn.edu if you install
    the program.  You will then be informed of program updates and other
    information.




    TAKE HEED

    The program is configured to access our network of Sun workstations
    for database and program service.  Since we are not funded to provide
    this service to the world, we have a limit on the number of connections
    allowed at any one time.  In addition, should problems arise, the 
    service may be curtailed.  You are encouraged to configure the program
    on your systems to use your own databases and programs.

    This is a so-called "alpha release" of the program.  Although we have
    been using it successfully for about a year as it has developed, it has
    not been tested on a large number of variant Unixes or Macs.  Installation
    is expected to be straightforward; if you have problems, let us know,
    and we will improve upon the installation instructions in the INSTALL file.

    In particular, we have used the Unix version a lot - it's fairly stable.
    The Mac port is rather recent, and there are no doubt some more bugs
    to shake out.  It also requires lots of memory.
    The MSDOS PC port (which does not include sockets) is almost entirely
    untested at this date.



    MORE INFORMATION

    --- It's free.

	DNA WorkBench is copyrighted, but permission is granted for
non-commercial use, or for research purposes, under the usual conditions.
Details provided with the program.  For commercial use, contact the author.

	DNA WorkBench is written in the Perl language, which is also
free and is available for most computers.   Perl is a C-like language
with many string manipulation features and supports object-oriented
programming.  Perl is a great language for slinging DNA and for
biocomputing in general.

    --- It runs on Unix, Macs, and MS-DOS PCs.

	All that is required is that Perl be installed.  For certain
UNIX computers, binaries are provided that do not require additional
Perl installation.  Instructions on how to get Perl are included
in each distribution.

	Perl has also been ported to VMS, Amigas, NT, OS/2, Atari ST,
and practically any other computer system you can think of.  However,
I've only worked with UNIX, Macs, and MS-DOS PCs so far.

	Internet connections are required for the database searching and
retrieval.  This enables small computers to use the big servers for
database storage and program execution, while doing the easier jobs
and storing results locally.  Alternatively, if you have the disk
space, you can configure the system to use your own local database.

	At present, a good port to PCs that includes the internet "sockets"
connectivity is not available; but one is expected soon, now that good public
domain socket libraries have become available.


    --- Powerful and fast searches on Genbank and other databases.

	DNA WorkBench lets you get information out of Genbank and other
databases in a number of useful ways.

	Several fields are indexed; for example, "organism sapiens" will
return with the many thousands of human DNA entries very rapidly.

	It is also possible to search for arbitrary text through an entire
database very rapidly.  This is accomplished by running the search in
parallel on many machines, each machine doing a different part of the search.

	The searches may be for sequence or for other text.  Searches may
be specified in terms of a very complete regular expression language, which
gives powerful user-defined full-text search capabilities.

	Results of searches may be combined in various ways, for instance
by taking the union, intersection, or difference of sets of search results.

	Results of searches may be narrowed down by additional criteria;
the user can define programs to run against search results; and search
results can be saved and reloaded at a later session.

    --- Client-server: access remote databases and programs.

	DNA WorkBench is both a genetic database server and
a program server.  For instance, the popular BLAST, FASTA and PRIMER
programs can be run by DNA WorkBench on a remote machine, using your local
files and input, and the results returned to your local machine.

	On startup, the program connects with a server that provides the
locations of the databases and other services.  This reduces administration
requirements.  The program then makes connections with the various servers
as required.  If a server is unavailable, the program attempts to connect
with the alternate servers, if any are specified.

	The servers impose a timeout, which helps reduce the load on the
servers, while being transparent to the client, which silently
re-establishes connections which have timed out.  Also, the servers
impose a limit on the number of concurrent server processes they permit,
ensuring that the server system is not overloaded.

    --- Parallel distributed processing for huge databases of the near future.

	Large databases can be distributed over many machines.  As the
amount of genetic information grows (it seems to be doubling about every
1.7 years) it will be possible to simply throw more and/or faster
machines into the network to maintain rapid search and retrieval.
This is very easy to configure - one simply adds the machine and file
name to the program, and installs the program on the new machine.

    --- Fully automatic control: all functions can be program-controlled.

	Large projects such as the Human Genome Project, which provided
the environment in which DNA WorkBench developed, as well as small
projects centered in an individual laboratory, can benefit from the
automation of biocomputing tasks.  Every function of DNA WorkBench can
be controlled by specifying it in a script, or by including it on the
command line, or by reading it from the standard input as it is piped
in, or as the user types it.  For instance, new sequence can be analyzed
in a variety of ways, and the results summarized and mailed to the
researcher, without the time-consuming chore of typing inputs and
responses to a variety of programs.

    --- Enhancable - run your own programs on databases or search results.

	You can write a program that processes one database record,
and then specify the database libraries, or the previous search
results, to run the program against.  The user can build up a collection
of programs, and easily specify to DNA WorkBench which program to run
and against what library or search result.

	The user can also enter arbitrary commands to the running program,
for instance, to examine the state of the program, or to perform some
custom-tailored calculation.

    --- Handles most sequence file formats silently - reformats easily.

	Files containing sequence data in several common file formats
are read and parsed without any action necessary by the user.
Data can be reformatted by giving the name of the desired format.

    --- Many sequence manipulation functions.

	This list keeps growing.  At present, it includes calculating
the reverse complement, displaying reading frames and nucleotide to
protein translations, editing, searching for restriction
enzyme sites, searching for human repeat or vector in a sequence,
comparing a sequence against a library or a user file, searching for a
regular expression in a sequence.
	On my to-do list: contig assembly, searching by context-free and
other grammars, feature table manipulation, GDB access, approximate
regular expression matching, physical mapping of chromosomes, ...

    --- Convenient user interface, complete on-line help.

	Search results are easily manipulated, so you don't have to remember
and type long filenames.  Search results are maintained in an array; the
size and current pointer are displayed in the prompt.  One-line headers or
complete records are shown with the minimum possible number of keystrokes.
All searches are saved and can be quickly retrieved and combined, with
a minimum of disk and memory usage.

	The online help facility contains all the documentation, plus
some short tutorials.  It is based on examples, not formal descriptions.

	Any command not recognized by the program is passed on to the
system.  The user can perform most tasks without leaving the program,
which makes it behave (almost) like your shell with many new commands and
a stack of sequence.


======================================================================
James Tisdall
Departments of Genetics and Computer and Information Science
Computational Biology and Informatics Laboratory, Human Genome Project
510 Blockley Hall
University of Pennsylvania

tisdall@cbil.humgen.upenn.edu
215-573-3113
fax 215-573-3111
======================================================================

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From: harper@convex.csc.FI (Rob Harper)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Looking for .gif reader
Message-ID: <1993Dec3.161347.862@funet.fi>
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In <03DEC93.02642739.0049@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> "T. J." <R7FA@UNB.CA> writes:

>hi, i have Windows and Presentations but these packages can not read
>gif files.  Would someone tell me how i can get a .gif reader?

Try the following ftp sites.

Host ftp.csis.oita-u.ac.jp

   In /pub/msdos 
      Directory viewer 

Host dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl

   In /pub/msdos/windows/wmos 
      Directory viewers 

Host dorm.rutgers.edu

   In /pub/www/bin/pc-windows 
      File viewers.zip 359K (359833 bytes) 17-11-93 16:47 


RGDS -=ROB=-
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From: phi@nrcbsa.bio.nrc.ca (Dr. Barry Phipps)
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Subject: Bibliographic software - summary #2
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This is a reposting of an earlier summary of a discussion of Bibliographic
Software ...

*****************************************************************************

Dear Netters ...

This is for my summary of the greatful messages from BIOSOFT fellows
on my recent posting ' Info Needed on Reference & Submission Manager '

this summary is organized as following ... and long ...

1. Help Summary (Selected & Reformatted 8 msgs)
2. Wizards List (Thanx for all)
3. More DOS-oriented Directory
4. More Mac-oriented Directory

My Greatest Regards to all the people who helped me ...
Thank You ! :-)

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1. Help Summary

=========================================================================
From: peters@cshl.org (Bobbie Petersin Grace Computer Center)

our MAC people use:

"EndNote" from

Niles & Associates, Inc
2000 Hearst Avenue, Suite 200
Berkley, CA 94709 USA
(800) 554-3049 or
(510) 649-8176

Suggested Retail price -
EndNote - $149 US
EndNote Plus - $249 US

our PC people use:

"RefMan" from

Research Information Systems Inc.
Camino Corporate Center
2355 Camino Vida Roble
Carlsbad, CA 92009-1572 USA
(800) 722-1227 or
(619) 438-5526
(619) 438-5573 - Fax

Sorry no prices on this one

=========================================================================
From: cummins@possum.murdoch.edu.au (Dr Jim Cummins)

I suggest you check EndNote Plus, an excellent bibliographic package for
Mac and DOS environments.  You can get product information from Avi
Rappoport on nilesinc@WELL.SF.CA.US

There's also a good newsgroup available on LISTSERV.ENDNOTE

=========================================================================
From: yagi2@scripps.edu (Akemi Yagi/BCR7 4-8094)

I have been using Reference Manager for the kind of work you mentioned.
The program is great.  Try contacting:

Research Information Systems, Inc.
Camino Corporate Center
2355 Camino Vida Roble
Carlsbad, CA 92009-1572
USA

Phone: 619-438-5526
fax:   619-438-5573

=========================================================================
From: carstens@post.queensu.ca

Reference Manager is also available on the MAC. I have used it for many
years now and highly recommend it.

=========================================================================
From: KLIER@cobra.uni.edu

You may be interested in Papyrus, a bibliographic manager that can
print citations in any number of formats, and can also cope with
taking your manuscript, in which you have typed the reference
numbers of the papers you wish to cite (e.g., 743 instead of Bloggs
and Smith, 1978), and substitute either a numbered citation
(as is common in chemistry) or the Bloggs and Smith 1978-type
citation.

It's been an excellent tool for me, and it's cheap... $99 US for
up to 4 users; site licenses for entire universities available, too,
at reasonable cost.  The interface is straightforward, and easy to
learn.

=========================================================================
From: pekr@research.novo.dk (Peter Kristensen)

Consider using the ProCite program available for both PC and Mac
(PBS Ann Arbor Michigan, USA - fax no: 313 996 4672)

=========================================================================
From: ramacha@CC.UManitoba.CA

There is a Windows Based ref. manager which I think kinda does what you
are looking for. It is a shareware. The author hovever has sent me a free
distributable demo copy capable of handling 100 refs.
The original hovever handles 4 million refs.
The original I think is about 30 pounds.
If you are interested,
I can mail you the demo copy which is in a zip file.

Let me know.
Bye,
Karthi.
e-mail ramacha@ccu.umanitoba.ca

=========================================================================
From: cprice@netserv.unmc.edu (Chad Price x7936)

there is a review of the most popular commerical efforts in PC Magazine
within the last month.
There are lots of shareware and public domain efforts, some of
which are equally (or nearly so) as the commercial efforts.
I've written one which requires the Advanced Revelation database to run,
but matches most of the commercial features. There are lots of others -

=========================================================================

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2. Wizards List (Thanx for all)

>From brucewb@phibred.com Wed Oct 13 22:36:18 1993
From: KLIER@cobra.uni.edu
From: dLee@ccmail.llu.edu (dLee)
From: Estelle Hrabak <HRABAKE@macc.wisc.edu>
From: cummins@possum.murdoch.edu.au (Dr Jim Cummins)
From: cprice@netserv.unmc.edu (Chad Price x7936)
From: "Postmaster APECO" <postmast@apeco.pe>
From: cprice@netserv.unmc.edu (Chad Price x7936)
From: carstens@post.queensu.ca
From: henry@frm.uovs.ac.za (Henry Pieters PhD.)
From: peterk@sci.kun.NL
From: "Crosby, Bill" <bcrosby@pbi.nrc.ca>
From: ramacha@CC.UManitoba.CA
From: Peter Ratiu <pr@u.washington.edu>
>From bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu Thu Oct 14 01:21:09 1993
From: John F Towell <m50jft1@hayek.cob.niu.edu>
From: pekr@research.novo.dk (Peter Kristensen)
From: BSS097@bangor.ac.uk
From: peters@cshl.org (Bobbie Petersin Grace Computer Center)
From: "Johan de Boer" <jdboer@sol.UVic.CA>
From: yagi2@scripps.edu (Akemi Yagi/BCR7 4-8094)

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3. More DOS-oriented Directory

ftp 141.210.10.117 login anonymous password -
cd /pub/msdos/database/
type binary
get ap11.zip
get gl-4-131.zip
get jpro.zip
get paper202.zip
quit

AP11.ZIP      B  141230  900407  Bibliographical database for academic papers
GL-4-131.ZIP  B  150981  900402  Bibliographic database program - with manual
JPRO.ZIP      B  158998  901203  Journal-Pro: Keep a computerized journal diary
PAPER202.ZIP  B  120677  910531  PAPERS v2.02: Scientific literature database

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4. More Mac-oriented Directory

ftp sumex-aim.stanford.edu login anonymous password -
cd /info-mac/demo/
type ascii
get endnote-plus-13.hqx
quit

    636380 May 20 11:16 ./demo/endnote-plus-13.hqx

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Thanks for reading me and for greatest help messages ...
bye .

*******************************************************************************
Sincerely Rhee Hwan-Seok
Dept. Mol.Biol
Seoul National Univ.
e-mail :  HYUNERHO@KRSNUCC1.BITNET
          u3307515@alliant.snu.ac.kr
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Thanks for forwarding this to me John.

Barry Phipps

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Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Bibliographic software - summary #1
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Here is the promised summary of responses to my question regarding
BIBLIOGRAPHIC SOFTWARE.  I am very grateful for the wonderful response.  I
appreciate the time people took to send detailed information, which was very
helpful in choosing a program suited to our needs.  I am also reposting an
earlier summary on the same topic, which was sent to me by John (sorry, I
lost your surname, but thanks again).  A few people referred me to an article
in PC Magazine reviewing the top programs that was very useful:

  PC Magazine, October 12 / 93 issue, p. 269  "Point of Reference".

******************************************************************************

        About the bibliography programs, I bought a Mac copy
of EndNote-Plus for about $250.  I'm quite happy with it.

This program presents a number of features:

      - allows several thousands of entries per file;
      - the module EndLink (about $100. ?) will read Medline
          Medlars format files to interface with EndNote;
      - it is easy to cut and paste reference(s) in Word 4.0,
          while a new menu item is inserted in Word 5.0;
      - within the Word text, references are inserted in many
          different ways, like numbers, authors, authors+year,
          with/without brackets/square brackets,etc
      - list of references at the end of a paper may be
          formatted according to your needs, which means the
          parameters you want in the order you want, 
          underlined or not, bold or not, commas here/not there,
          italic "et al" when you want it, etc;
      - journal names can be defined as abbreviates;
      - the final references list is constituted automatically
          when we are ready to, reformatting the citations
          within the text;
      - excellent technical support, and a newsgroup is maintained
          (mail help to listserv@ucsbvm.bitnet);

It is also available for PC/compatible although I'm less familiar with.
This program essentially meets my requirements, but it depends which
installation you have access to, and on your needs.

Regards,

Andre White,  awhite@alpha.oci.utoronto.ca
Dept.Med.Biophys.,  Ontario Cancer Institute
Toronto, Canada,  (416) 924-0671x5053

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I used to use Reference Manager (for DOS), but recently switched to
EndNote Plus.  It's much easier to learn and use.  Completely customizable,
too.  Ref. Man. has slightly better formatting capabilities, but to
me the difference wasn't great enough.

Reference Manager has a new Windows version, but it's very clunky.
EndNote Plus has a Windows version in the works.

Both companies should be able to send you free/low-cost demo versions.
I don't have their addresses handy, unfortunately.

Allison Anderson
aaa@tamu.edu

*****************************************************************************

I love Papyrus.  It's cheap, easy to use, and wiorks like a charm.

And if you get stuck, you can talk directly to the guy who designed the package.

cheers

bob Bienkowski
bienkows@qcvaxa.acc.qc.edu

*****************************************************************************

I have used EndNote Plus for several years and I'm very happy with it.  
There's a flourishing LISTSERV newsgroup that you can subscribe to by 
sending "SUBSCRIBE ENDNOTE" followed by a carriage return and your name 
to: LISTSERV@UCBCMSA.
Product information is available from Avi Rappoport of 
nilesinc@WELL.SF.CA.US.

I routinely download bibliographic searches from Medline and Current 
Contents directly into EndNote, and several institutions here in WA have 
installed this software as the standard reporting package for collating 
bibliographies for annual reports, CVs etc.

Let me know if you need further details.


Dr Jim Cummins                            +61-9-360 2668
School of Veterinary Studies          FAX =61-9-310 4144     
Murdoch University               cummins@possum.murdoch.edu.au
Murdoch, Western Australia 6150

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ProCite works fine - i have used it for many years. It may seem a little 
complicated to start with but gives a lot of possibilities. One feature not 
sheared (i think) by the other programs is that you can use the name and year, 
i.e. (Smith et al., 1990) in your manuscripts and then use the program to 
prepare the list of citations (including numbering in order of citation) - most 
other programs I have seen require that you use numbers from the databse in the 
text in order to do the in-text referencing, and this makes the drafts of 
manuscripts less easy to work with.
Sincerely

Peter Kristensen
Pathology & Histochemistry
Pharmaceuticals Division
Novo Nordisk A/S, DENMARK
<pekr@research.novo.dk>

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Ref Manager is EXCELLENT andf now available for Windows - however, 
there is another option called IdeaList (IRL Press) which is about 
as good a general-purpose literature databasing pgm as you can get - 
can also be used to archive ANYTHING, from recipes thru to letters 
to lit, in the same database, as different record types.

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I am using the Reference Manager package for some 7 years now. I also tried 
few other packages and tested Procite and Endnote. RefMan is, to my opinion, 
by far the best one. It is really friendly, easy to use, and has all the 
possibilities needed for a scientist. Its new version on Windows (or Mac) is 
really good. Another advantage of this soft is that it can be used together 
with the Reference Update which we are using in our Institute to review all 
the new litterature. It has also a nice feature, called Splicer that allows 
one to search, retrieve and insert references in a mns while writing it. 
Procite is also powerful, but it can take few months to understand how it 
works, and to have a version suitable for your own use. Endnote is really poor.
If you need more informations, contact me by E-mail
Gilles Bronchti

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I'd like to share with you my experience with PAPYRUS software.

Firstly it's price is advantageous. Apart from 99$ (as far as I am aware)
it is possible to get it cheaper here in the U.K. for academic use.

Secondly I am very happy with it and I wouldn't think of swapping to other
software now. PAPYRUS allows you to import references from a practically
unlimited number of sources (so you don't have to type in, just run 'import'
and have a cup of tea). It has a variety of formats for different sources
of bibliography data. However, as there is a quite big variety of different
formats available on the world, do not be shocked in case of 'import' failure.
I experienced such a shock when I tried to import some references from Medline
on CD-ROM. I asked for advice a person supposed to support computers and data
in this library and she couldn't help me. I decided to work out my own
customized format and after painful couple of days I did it which is not so
difficult once you learn how designing of the format works (I basically have
very little computer background after graduating medicine). But anyway I managed
to import some of the references from my dBASE database and also from Smart.
The problem was it really took me a couple of days to play with formats, but
now I feel confident enough not to be scared of using any format. However,
producer would be happy to answer all your problems.

You can also save your customized import format for future use.

The other big advantage is applying PAPYRUS to create manuscripts. It supports
a number of word processors. I used it with Word Perfect 5.1. It works great.
You just put your reference numbers (unique numbers as they have in your
PAPYRUS) in your text. Then after you choose desired format it is a few
minutes and you will get the text ready to be sent off. If you have to send
it to other journal with other format, you just keep your 'raw' version and
run PAPYRUS again with other format and again it's a few minutes job. It sorts
your references as you wish and 'exports' a list of sorted references in 
desired format to a file of your choice e.g. Word Perfect 5.1 or other. This
is really time saving by the end of the day.

You can import full references including abstracts and all other details, but
be aware, this is again my experience, that when you start to accumulate
references to hundreds and thousands especially with full data including
abstracts the speed of importing data will decrease. Also the speed of searches
will decrease. But you are warned in the manual that some sort of searches
are really time consuming. Also if you use PAPYRUS's own backup system rather
than DOS backup it can take quite a while to restore your data ( in my case
it took ca. 10 hr to restore data containing about 1500 positions with full
record including abstracts on 386SX with 100 Mega HD), but I don't know how
other software copes with it.

I would really strongly recommend PAPYRUS as excellent value for money. I don't
know how is it in Canada but in the U.K. one can buy a personal license to use
PAPYRUS in perpetuity after leaving academic institution for about 20-25 pounds
as far as I know.

Best regards,

Dr. Rom(uald) Pitera

r.pitera@portia.umds.ac.uk

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We recently bought EndNote (Macintosh version) and are very happy with it. 
I particularly like the easy interface with Microsoft Word on the Mac.

Elizabeth Harris
chlamy@acpub.duke.edu

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As you didn't tell on which platform you would to run the program I am not sure
whether the following is of any interest to you.

We have Papyrus running here on a VAX/VMS system. And I have seen it on a PC.
A Mac version is supposed to be under development. Papyrus is able to import
and export references in any format. And the price of US$ 99.- is almost
unbeatable. In addition the licensing conditions are excellent; you may
run the software on four PCs with a single license. A site-license is an
additional US$ 200.- . Perhaps you may also want to have a look at the
New England Journal of Medicine, Vol. 329, No. 4, pages 283-284.

Regards
   Christoph Gartmann

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| Christoph Gartmann            Phone   : +49-761-5108-465   Fax: -221       |
| Max-Planck-Institut fuer      PSI     : PSI%(0262)45050160374::GARTMANN    |
| Immunbiologie                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de           |
| Postach 1169                                                               |
| D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                                     |

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I have used EndNote and its on-line companion EndLink. Both do everything
I want in such software: Searching on any fields, logical operators
formatting for references in a large number of existing formats, define
your own new formats, Easy download from on-line databases such
as CAB. etc etc

Mick Carrick

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	If you're talking about Ref Mangers for pc's and you don't want 
to spend a ton of money...

	I use a program called Papyrus. It is an MS-DOS based program 
that takes downloads in all standard formats (ie., BRS), stores all
formats, performs searches on author, subject, keywords, etc., takes text 
files from all standard word processors (even MS-Windows, ie., AmiPro), 
extracts citations, generates bibliography, etc.  In other words it does 
everything that ref manager does but its a LOT less expensive.  Dave 
Goldman wrote the program and supports it very well (Research Design 
Software).  If you'd like I could find his phone # for you.  Otherwise, 
Papyrus was advertised in PC magazine lately (I think it was PC magazine).

	I currently have > 7,000 references in my database and searches 
are still fast (a matter of seconds).

	Anyway, I look forward to seeing a compilation of replies to your 
Bionet question. 

					John L. Carroll
					JHU, Baltimore, Maryland
 
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Reference manager is no good.
Endnote is excellent if you use Microsoft Word
Procite is OK but lacks in text citation format flexibility.

Both Endnote and Procite have add ons that permit import of Medline and
other biblio database searches.

I have purchased all three and use Endnote.

Dan Wetzel
Neurology
Univ of Vermont

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We have been using Reference Manager for a few years and like it
pretty well.  The capture feature to download directly from Medline
has been particularly useful.  Unfortunately the program is
relatively expensive.  One undocumented "feature" is that because it
was written by someone associated with Scripps Clinic and Research
Foundation in La Jolla, people at that institution get a price
break.  Therefore, if you know someone there you might ask them to
help you out.

P.S. We use the Windows version with a PC, but a friend uses the Mac
version and is also quite happy.  The people who write Endnote also
seem quite reliable (we've used their Grant Manager program, but not
Endnote because a PC version wasn't available at the time).

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 We have recently bought Reference Manager (Research Information Systems).  So 
far it seems pretty good.  We have been importing references from an on-line 
database in the U.K. (BIDS) with no problems.  It can output in a number of 
formats to be compatable with your WP.  It's also good at generating complete
bibliographies or a reference list for a paper. It has several built in journal
styles, or you can define your own.

 When importing a reference, or typing one in it reports potential duplicates
and saves them in a seperate file.  There are versions for the Mac or windows 
(the one I use). A demo disk is avaliable from RIS.

 My one HUGE reservation about it is that you can have one database with up to 
65,000 (yes 65,000) references, but no other reference database may exceede 200.
Now the way I work is to have a lot of small databases each concerenced with a 
separate subject.  You can search the one big database for your references about
X, but I'd rather stick with many and small.  Also this is a problem if the 
product is used by even a small number of people with differing interests.

 Bottom line is - it's great BUT the one database is a problem for me.

Bob Lauder,				bsa016@cent1.lancs.ac.uk
Post Doctoral Research Associate, 
Division of Biological Sciences,
Lancaster University,
U.K.

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"Bob Lauder" <bsa016@cent1.lancs.ac.uk> writes:

> My one HUGE reservation about it is that you can have one database with up to 
>65,000 (yes 65,000) references, but no other reference database may exceed 200

Bob- 
	since I design and write databases for a living, I feel at least partly
qualified to comment on you technique of multiple databases. Please do not take
this as a flame, but I feel that saving references in multiple files  may
create problems for you long-term. 

In database design, one of the primary tasks in developing a data model
revolves around "normalizing" your data. What this translates to is setting up
a file (table) structure which minimizes or eliminates duplication of
information. There are lots of reasons for this, but the relevant one for you
are: 

(1) how do you ensure that you find a reference relevant to the topic
under search if the paper contains material about several topics?? You may have
saved it in some other file than the one you are looking in. Or you may simply
have to search in _all_ of your files. 

(2) How do you ensure that the same reference saved in multiple files is
exactly the same (and correct) in all locations.

Both of these problems are solved by keeping all references in a single file
and approaching the issue with keyword searches using appropriate keywords
attached to each reference. This approach results in a normalized database, and
will ensure that you can always find the references pertaining to any topic you
choose without searching in several places.

For those interested, I can place a copy of the source code for a database I
wrote in Advanced Revelation (2.12 - I've not had time to update to 3.1 or Open
Insight 2.0) on my machine for anonymous ftp retrieval.

chad
chad@windsurf.unmc.edu

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I've been using Reference Manager for DOS for several years and have recently 
started using Reference Manager for Windows. Both programs have a number of 
minor problems but they have one tremendous advantage over anything else I've 
heard of, namely Reference Update, Abstract Edition. I receive 2 diskettes 
weekly containing the current literature which I scan with the profile I've 
set up, read the abstracts, choose the ones of interest and then transfer 
those citations with no extra typing other than editing changes into the main 
Reference Manager database (currently just over 2000 citations). This has been 
a tremendous help when writing review articles and when needing to make 
citation lists for new graduate students. One other feature of RM that I 
particularly like is the ability to set up citations in essentially any 
journal format and the fact that RM converts WinWord files to files that I can 
send away for publication. The main problems I've had with the Windows version 
is that it takes too much memory, does not allow certain international symbols 
such as the Scandinavian crossed o and gives minor problems with the TIGA 
display that I'm using. However, with the above reservations, I wouldn't want 
to write manuscripts without it.


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Mark Achtman, Max-Planck Institut f|r molekulare Genetik
Ihnestra_e 73, D-14169 Berlin, Germany
e-mail: Achtman@MPIMG-Berlin-Dahlem.MPG.DE

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I have used Papyrus extensively and been very satisfied.  I use it to prepare
manuscripts, and have done several large papers as well as a review with 
100 references.  Reformatting is straightforward.  I use it hooked directlyto
Wordperfect, and switch back and forth with the DOS taskswitcher.
I also use Papyrus to keep a strain book in a separate database, with 
keyowrds=mutatnt loci, etc.
These programs were recently reviewed in PC Magazine, and I beleive that the
most-favorably reviewed programs were Refmanager and Papyrus.  The difference 
in price is about 5-fold, Papyrus much cheaper.
I have not used competitive microcomputer products, but am obviously fairlyhappy
with Papyrus.  I do not generally directly load references from a search service
mostly because my University library has a terrible link that makes downloading
nearly impossible.
Chuck Staben

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Either PC Magazine or PC Computing had a "review" of personal bibliographic
software within the last 3 months.  Check the library.  They pointed out 
the strengths and weaknesses of all the "major" programs.  They found none 
to be "outstanding" enough to get the Editors choice award but indicated 
that one should pick the one that best fits their needs.

PS  I use Papyrus.  I can get you the Email address of the author if you 
want.

***********************************************************************
Dale M. Webb, Vet. Pathologist   *  97% of the body is water.  The
Veterinary Diagnostic Center     *  rest keeps you from drowning.
University of Nebraska, Lincoln  *

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Greetings!  I'd like to toss in my $0.02...  After having just done
a few grants manually, I picked up EndNote Plus and am so far very
happy with it.  It does what it claims it can do.  It is apparently
designed with W_Perfect and MS-Word in mind and compatibility with
other word processors must be tested with it.  I use W_Perfect at work
but am partial to PC-Write at home.  EndNote just fine with this word
processor too.  EndNote can be made compatible by interconverting documents
to and from other formats like W_Perfect.  As I said I'm pretty happy with
it... and you don't need to pay list for it either...  MicroWherehouse which
often advertises in PC-Mag offers it for $139.95 as of this writing.

Hope this helps some of you looking for reference software...
Please forgive me - stupid editor - can't go back and correct obvious typos.
 -- line 6 EndNote "works" just fine...

David
haviland@kids.wustl.edu

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Thanks again everyone.

Barry Phipps

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From: A0RY@UNB.CA (A0RY000)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Wanted: HD-util
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   If any one knows of a shareware program to determine the bios-
setup of a hard disk, please send me E-mail of the place that I
could find this utility.

                 Thank you (Send E-mail to A0RY@unb.ca)

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From: jlramos@cnbvx3.cnb.uam.es
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Looking for a DNA bending program
Message-ID: <1993Dec4.124349.86@cnbvx3.cnb.uam.es>
Date: 4 Dec 93 12:43:49 GMT
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Hy!
I'm looking for a program to predict DNA bending.
If anyone knows where I can get free, please tell me.
Thanx

M. Trini Gallegos
Department of Vegetal Biochemistry
Estacion Experimental del Zaidin
Granada. Espagna.
JLRAMOS@CNBVX3.CNB.UAM.ES

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From: zoorejb@leonis.nus.sg (Ralph Edward James B)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Sequencher vs Applied Biosystems
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Date: 4 Dec 93 02:24:52 GMT
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David Kristofferson (kristoff@net.bio.net) wrote:
: Bo.Servenius@wblab.lu.se (Bo Servenius) writes:

: >I hope you ABI guys get more involved on the networks an see all the
: >advantages of using it. With these means we the custumoer could
: >send you our bugrepports etc directly instead of having them filtered 
: >throu your marketing or techsupport which many times might distort
: >the messages. 

: Everyone please remember that there is a fine line that must be walked
: here.
This is not an easy issue to resolve, and is perhaps worth discussing.  
The line may be so fine that it is hard to find even with the aid of an 
electron microscope.

: People who endorse products should do so only if they have *no*
: financial connection, direct or indirect, with them and they should
: clearly say so in ther posting.

And what counts as a financial connection?  Certainly those who own part 
of the company.  This seems obvious enough, but if you participate in a 
pension plan (as most readers of this likely do, apart from students) 
what if the company managing your pension funds has invested in the 
manufacturer in question?  If the manufacturer is well established, such an 
event is likely and would by a simple application of the above preclude 
many (most?) from commenting.  If the net is broadened to include those 
involved with the suppliers of the company, or those who work for such 
companies or who have relatives working for such companies, those who 
have broadly based mutual funds, ... , an even larger proportion of us 
would not be able to comment favourably on a product.  Certainly, there 
is a direct financial relationship between anyone using the product and 
the manufacturer unless the product used was stolen.  This would preclude 
anyone who knows anything about the product from commenting favourably 
about it.   ;-)

: People at companies may answer in a factual manner direct questions
: about their products but should stay out of the debates about which
: "product is better."  Advertising hype should obviously be avoided.
What do you recommend if such a debate includes misinformation, or 
obsolete information, about the product?  If such information is not 
corrected, both the company and potential users suffer harm.  If it is 
corrected, the people at the company may well get drawn into the debate.


I think we all understand what the objective is.  No-one wants to be 
swamped by electronic junk or 'advertising'.  The experience of the 
comp.os.os2.* and comp.os.windows.* groups is informative, and their 
strategy for handling the problem is a useful compromise.  One of the 
things to be observed there was that plenty of bandwidth was consumed by 
people inquiring about, and speculating on, the price and availability of 
various products and their release dates.  Some of this, particularly 
information about where to get materials was included in the FAQ, but 
some of this, particularly information related to new releases, could not 
be handled in such a manner.  Thus, a moderated newsgroup was created 
specifically for product announcements.  I have seen other newsgroups 
where people have been badly flamed for responding to a query like 'what 
can I use to do X' with information that a given product can do it and is 
available at a specified cost.  Such a response was treated as if it was 
base advertising.  However, if product announcements = advertizing, then 
many people are denied information they are seeking, and it can be 
observed that in the above mentioned newsgroups, the product 
announcements are welcomed in the specified and moderated newsgroup 
dedicated to such announcements and that this practice uses much less 
bandwidth than the inquiry and speculation that occurs without it.  I 
don't think, from a network perspective, that email is an adequate 
alternative since with an announcement, only one message is sent while 
with email, there are a certain number of kBytes transmitted with each 
inquiry and another for each response.

I would also observe that in the comp.os.os2.* newsgroups, IBM staff, and 
staff from companies making apps for OS2, participate regularly helping 
people fix problems that have arisen and pass feedback back to the 
company, and this includes people directly involved in writing the code 
used in OS/2 and related apps.  Some  of their responses would be seen as 
advertising in some other newsgroups and yet they are among the most highly 
valued and useful articles posted to the newsgroup and are NOT seen as 
advertising by those using these OS/2 newsgroups.

This is not an easy issue to manage, and based on what I have seen, there 
are no solutions, only compromises dependant on the identity of the 
participating population.

Cheers,
R.E. Byers,
Department of Zoology,
National University of Singapore
zoorejb@leonis.nus.sg

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Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!comlab.ox.ac.uk!oxuniv!epowell
From: epowell@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Macintosh family tree/history. Help!
Message-ID: <1993Dec5.104612.18639@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
Date: 5 Dec 93 10:46:12 GMT
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I need a Macintosh piece of software which will allow two things. Firstly I
need to have a family tree drawing facility. Secondly I need that to be linked
to a patient history database. Thus by double clicking on a member of the
family tree one would be presented with that patient's medical history. 

Now you would think such a thing would already be in existence but damned if I
can find it. No doubt one could use AppleScript to link two seperate programs
but I would prefer to avoid hours of development time.

Any suggestions from out there on the Net? Could you post them directly to me
as well as posting on this newsgroup please?

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Stephen Atherton                        InterNet:epowell@vax.ox.ac.uk
					OR: s.atherton@cc.uq.oz.au
Macintosh Higher Ed Consultant          AppleLink:Atherton1
62 Hill Top Road                        Telephone:(0865)245505
OXFORD OX4 1PE                          Mobile: 0836 797372
United Kingdom
               & Prentice Computer Centre, The University of Queensland
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From: darrenp@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au (Daz)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: DNA fingerprinting
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Mr D J Plows (lsren@csv.warwick.ac.uk) wrote:

: does anyone know of a program, shareware or commercial, for a PC to analyse 
: DNA fingerprint data to produce groups?

I m doing research into good/better ways of constructing large restriction
maps through random clone fingerprinting, and would be happy to attempt to
map any data that anyone has (even if they have existing maps for their
data). I won't be here much till after christmas day, but drop me some mail
if you are interested, or if you have some data you would be happy to let me
test my programs on.

-- 
Darren Platt, Department of Computer Science
darrenp@dibbler.cs.monash.edu.au
Monash University, Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

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From: lrf6as@gps.leeds.ac.uk (A Staines)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Bibliographic software - summary #1
Message-ID: <1993Dec6.114302.23925@gps.leeds.ac.uk>
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Sender: Anthony Staines
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	I'd like to add to the discussion on bibliographic software. I use
a program called Idealist (from Blackwell Scientific Publishing, Oxford,UK).
It is fast, and good academic deals are available in the UK.
	I like it because it is extremely flexible. I get lots of different
types of references (e.g. journal articles, chapters, books, conference
proceedings, databases, theses etc..) and I can keep all of these in a single
database. You could use it to index anything.
	It is very fast because it indexes every word in every reference (apart
from a select few 'stopwords' like the,and,for,to,...etc..) You can customise
every aspect of its operations, and it is very easy to design import
formats for external data sources.
	It supports OLE under Windows, and hence can link to word processors
fairly directly. It's also easy to use, and simple to set up.
	Anthony Staines.

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From: lrf6as@gps.leeds.ac.uk (A Staines)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Bibliographic software - summary #1
Message-ID: <1993Dec6.114302.23925@gps.leeds.ac.uk>
Date: 6 Dec 93 11:43:02 GMT
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Sender: Anthony Staines
Organization: University of Leeds, England
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	I'd like to add to the discussion on bibliographic software. I use
a program called Idealist (from Blackwell Scientific Publishing, Oxford,UK).
It is fast, and good academic deals are available in the UK.
	I like it because it is extremely flexible. I get lots of different
types of references (e.g. journal articles, chapters, books, conference
proceedings, databases, theses etc..) and I can keep all of these in a single
database. You could use it to index anything.
	It is very fast because it indexes every word in every reference (apart
from a select few 'stopwords' like the,and,for,to,...etc..) You can customise
every aspect of its operations, and it is very easy to design import
formats for external data sources.
	It supports OLE under Windows, and hence can link to word processors
fairly directly. It's also easy to use, and simple to set up.
	Anthony Staines.

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From: moreaut@univ-tours.fr
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Subject: various questions in the Mac environment
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dear colleagues, 

I would like to have your suggestions on several points:

1/ do you know alignments programms running on a Mac which can
producing shadowed boxes for conserved residues amond a set of proteins ?
I have already seen the reply to such a question related
to the GCG package (Prettyplot command).

2/ does somebody know the existence of some font with fixed spaces
such as Courrier but more pretty than Courrier?

3/ I produce postscript files with a molecular modelisation program and 
these files are exploited on a Mac to have quick output or black and white
outputs. I am looking for a mac soft able to preview such files and also
able to modify PS files.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dr Thierry MOREAU
Laboratoire d'Enzymologie et Chimie des Proteines
URA CNRS 1334   2bis, Bd Tonnelle  37032 TOURS Cedex  France

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Fax: 33 47 36 60 46
E-mail: moreaut@univ-tours.fr 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Subject: Re: looking for proteins sequences
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In article <2dsrc0$j26@reseau.cict.fr>, maveyrau@ecstasy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Laurent Maveyraud) writes:
|> Query from mcpalmie@FOX.CCE.USP.BR (Mauricio Cesar Palmieri): 
|> ...
|> >ones. Somebody there could tell me some information about how is the 
|> >easiest manner to proceed a roughly search? (database, software, time 
|> >required, etc).

The software you may choose balances speed vs. sensitivity, and it very 
much depends on the question you ask. There are three options 

(1) Rely on the network 
(2) rely on your site
(3) Do everything yourself

Option three, obviously, is time consuming and usually does not pay 
off. You should not need to install software and databases yourself if 
you work in a larger environment because central services are cost-
effective and therefore provided usually. If you do not enjoy such 
comfort but need to initiate one the best were to visit a site where 
it's already running (better even, two or three different sites 
running different environments). 

Option one, the network, may turn out to be a Damokles sword; 
as you get what you paid for. Most of the services are "free". 
Many of the services provided on the net are spawned from research 
activities and therefore continuously suffer from funding, thus, 
are continuously in danger to degrade, or cease to exist. 

There are a few exceptions, thogh, like the services of the 
EMBL data library or the national services from EMBnet in Europe, 
and the NCBI in the US. 

The available services on the network have been collected by Amos Bairoch
and are available on various servers, on our mirror server you will 
find the data on nic.switch.ch as
 mirror/embnet-ch/other-data/info/serv_ema.txt.Z

With respect to option two, the central services, you might want 
to consider querying your national Center in Brasil. Goran  
(adresses below) will provide you answers to your questions if you 
would like to get either services there or an advice. 

Any EMBnet node has an entry in 'The Nodes of EMBnet' database which 
is available as Postscript format on nic.switch.ch in 
 mirror/embnet-ch/info/embnet
The embnet.dat file is a plain ASCII file and there are nice postscript 
versions with additional information as well. 

There is a Brasilian node in Brasilea which serves the community according
to as imilar structure as the EMBnet nodes do in Europe, the 
Brazilian Molecular Biology and Biotechnology Network (BMBBNet). For more
information, ask at 

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|> 
|> 
|> One of the numerous way is to use the UWGCG package, with the database 
|> Genembl. The option is TFASTA. This goes through the whole DNA database,

TFASTA belongs to the FASTA package written by William R. Pearson 
originally described in Science (Lipman and Pearson, (1985) Science 
227:1435-1441). The Genetics Computer Group, Inc. (Madison, Wisconsin) 
distributes a version which is adapted to their package. 

...
|> Software : UWGCG (University of Wisconsin Genetic Computer Group) it is
|> available nearly everywhere there are molecular biology labs

The package in question arose from an academic group (UWGCG) but is now
comercially managed (Info at beers@gcg.com). Due to its history and 
economical factors, it is installed at a large basis. We have enjoyed 
excellent results arising from running this package since 1987. However,
it is important to emphasize that other packages are available, such
as the Intelligenetics Software Packahe (known as IG Suite, Info 
at ig-consultant@presto.ig.com), and others. 

There are many packages available from the public domain, though, these 
usually cover only a special (but very extensively covered) set of 
a particular activity, e.g. sequence searching, e.g., he FASTA was mentioned 
above, and the NCBI has released the 'BLAST' suite of programs. 

|> 
|> Database : Genembl, which is also from UWGCG, and is updated every 15 days (I think...)

'Genembl' is a term for a merged database used in the GCG package. 
On the basis of accession numbers, Genbank and EMBL are excluded 
in the corresponding database; e.g., in the US you would 
normally run GENBANK with a EMBL exclusion set, and in Europe you will 
have a EMBL with a Genbank exclusion set. The update frequency 
is a matter of your administrator, we do EMBL daily and GENBANK 
weekly, most sites in Switzerland maintain a weekly GCG GENEMBL data 
update. There oare other merged collections out there, PATCHX, OWL, 
and others. 

|> 
|> Time : well, this depends mainly on the machine you are using. It can range from 1hour to 15 min.

BLAST (software from the NCBI) takes only a few seconds if peptide 
runs vs. peptice straight, and a Smith and Waterman search on a 
massively parallel machine (software from the Edinburgh team) doen't 
take longer either. The latter run on a deskside, 4 year old hardware 
might easily take 5 hours CPU to complete. The search software 
available ranges from scans of identity to sophisticated methods of 
fragment pattern searching, and from browsing the database with
 quick-but-dirty to extensive homology evaluations searching with 
profiles. ISEARCH (PIR), (T)FASTA (Pearson), BLAST (NCBI), 
WORDSEARCH(UWGCG), TWORDSEARCH(Rice), BLAZE (Intelligenetics), 
MPsearch(Collins et al, also as BLITZ), PROFILE methods (GRIBSKOV), 
FLASH (IBM), and many, many other programs have a wide area 
of application. 

So the range depends on 
	* algorithm used 
	* hardware used 
	* question asked 
	* (occasionally) length of the sequence 


Regards
Reinhard

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Hello all.
  I have been using both GCG and inherit. I am doing a lot of sequence comparis
on, and do have some warm words to say about inherit. Actually the best thing a
bout it (accept for the assambly tool) is the speed, which is of a completely f
differant scale.
      My 2 main dissapointments are: bad help/documnetation and being unably to
 write rutines that would utilize it's speed. I'm programming in C and had
a wonderfull time writing programs that interact with GCG, but when I wanted to
 use inherit's speed - yok.
  If any of you inherit people here me - think about it.
      Eitan.

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Hello all.
  I have been using both GCG and inherit. I am doing a lot of sequence comparis
on, and do have some warm words to say about inherit. Actually the best thing a
bout it (accept for the assambly tool) is the speed, which is of a completely f
differant scale.
      My 2 main dissapointments are: bad help/documnetation and being unably to
 write rutines that would utilize it's speed. I'm programming in C and had
a wonderfull time writing programs that interact with GCG, but when I wanted to
 use inherit's speed - yok.
  If any of you inherit people here me - think about it.
      Eitan.

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 BCRUBIN
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Hello all.
  I have been using both GCG and inherit. I am doing a lot of sequence comparis
on, and do have some warm words to say about inherit. Actually the best thing a
bout it (accept for the assambly tool) is the speed, which is of a completely f
differant scale.
      My 2 main dissapointments are: bad help/documnetation and being unably to
 write rutines that would utilize it's speed. I'm programming in C and had
a wonderfull time writing programs that interact with GCG, but when I wanted to
 use inherit's speed - yok.
  If any of you inherit people here me - think about it.
      Eitan.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Dec 05 22:00:00 1993
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From: jwoodget@ocicl.oci.utoronto.ca (Jim Woodgett)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: various questions in the Mac environment
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In article <scott.755199530@phylo>, scott@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Scott Howard) 
writes:
 
> Shaded Annotated Sequences: 
> GeneWorks and DNAStar will accomplish this. If you'd like to save 
> yourself a few thousand francs, 13 point Courier and most any 
> reasonably well constructed drawing program will suffice. 

There is a non-commercial possibility if you are using a Macintosh - SeqApp 
1.9.  This does a very nice multicoloured pretty print with shading as well 
as lots of other things.  It was written by Don Gilbert and is free (as far 
as I know).  Note it is an alpha release and may cause crashes.  I have 
experienced these but usually they simply cause the program to quit.   It's a 
really nice piece of work overall.  Here is Don's abstract on the program:
 
SeqApp is a biological sequence editor and analysis program  for Macintosh 
computers.  It includes links to network  services and  external analysis 
programs.

Features include	
	multiple sequence alignment editor
	single sequence editor window
	read and write several sequence file formats *
	easy hand alignment features including colored bases  and sliding *
	automatic multiple sequence alignment thru Clustal  external app 
	automatic gel fragment alignment to contigs thru CAP  exernal app *
	consensus,reverse,complement,degap operations
	restriction maps
	dot plots
	translate dna to/from protein using various codon  tables
	automatic preference saving *
	internet send mail, read mail
	internet gopher, information retreival including  genbank.
	internet sequence analysis services
	user-definable links to external analysis programs
	and more
	
* These features were updated in release 1.9a.  See below  for details.

+++ NOTICE:  This is an early, unfinished version of the  program.   Expect 
it to fail in various ways.  This release  is made available to those who 
wish to test and comment on  its future development. This release will expire 
on a date  indicated in the About dialog.

SeqApp is being written by Don Gilbert, using the MacApp   extensible 
Macintosh programming framework from Apple  Computer.

You can obtain updates of this release thru anonymous ftp to  
 ftp.bio.indiana.edu, in folder /molbio/seqapp, as  seqapp.hqx.  You may also 
obtain updates directly thru an  internet-connected Mac with SeqApp, using 
Gopher to the  IUBio archive.  Look for a folder called "IUBio  
Software+Data/SeqApp, Mac sequence editor".  There may be  additional 
distribution software, data or information in  this /molbio/seqapp folder.  
See the Readme files in it for  details. 


Jim Woodgett      Fax (416) 926 6529     Tel (416) 924 0671
jwoodget@ocicl.oci.utoronto.ca
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From: grl6732@rigel.tamu.edu (Gerard R. Lazo)
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Subject: Re: Announcing: DNA WorkBench
Keywords: DNA
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How does DNA Workbench compare to Genetic Data Environment (GDE2.2)?
I believe GDE2.2 works mainly in the UNIX environment. Would the
use of DNA Workbench provide similar functions on PCs and Macs. GDE2.2
has things linked to it like Phylip, Treetool, Looptool, Blast, Fasta,
XYLEM, FSAP, etc...

These front-end user interfaces are great. For someone who may not have
access to GCG, Intelligenetics, etc...; these provide a way to 
customize a working environment.
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Subject: Re: various questions in the Mac environment
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Shaded Annotated Sequences:
GeneWorks and DNAStar will accomplish this. If you'd like to save
yourself a few thousand francs, 13 point Courier and most any 
reasonably well constructed drawing program will suffice.

Fonts:
As for fonts, Courier is the only postscript font I have seen
that is truly monospaced. There are several bitmapped-only
fonts that are monospaced, but they all share the trait of 
getting mangled during manipulation and printing.

Standard Weasel Clause:
I have no affiliation with Adobe Systems, Apple Computer, DNAStar,
Intelligenetics, or the International Brotherhood of Electrical 
Workers. The University of Illinois does not even know I exist, much
less condone my opinions. 

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In article <scott.755199530@phylo>, scott@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Scott Howard) 
writes:
 
> Shaded Annotated Sequences: 
> GeneWorks and DNAStar will accomplish this. If you'd like to save 
> yourself a few thousand francs, 13 point Courier and most any 
> reasonably well constructed drawing program will suffice. 

There is a non-commercial possibility if you are using a Macintosh - SeqApp 
1.9.  This does a very nice multicoloured pretty print with shading as well 
as lots of other things.