From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: JL.GJM@ISUMVS.IASTATE.EDU (Gerry McKiernan)
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Subject: CAI/CBT and Internet
Date: 1 Aug 1994 19:16:34 -0700
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    Are any Netters aware of an expert system (of any type)
that is accessible/usable over the Internet through Mosaic
(or other interface)?

Gerry McKiernan
Coordinator, Science and Technology Section
Reference and Instructional Services Department
Iowa State University
Ames IA 50011

gerrymck@iastate.edu

            "THINK RADICALLY, ACT LOGICALLY"


From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: JL.GJM@ISUMVS.IASTATE.EDU (Gerry McKiernan)
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     Are any Netters aware of a Mosaic Home Page (or other
interface) that provides "online and real-time" access and
use of computer-aided instruction (CAI) or computer-based
training (CBT) sessions (of any type)?

Please respond to me, or to the list or newsgroup.

Gerry McKiernan
Coordinator, Science and Technology
Reference and Instructional Services Department
Iowa State University
152 Parks Library
Ames IA 50011

gerrymck@iastate.edu

              "THINK RADICALLY, ACT LOGICALLY"


From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: schuetzl@hermes.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Alexander Schuetzle)
Subject: Searching for biological info-systems...
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	Hi all,

	I have some questions about biological databases. 

	1. I'm searching for names and short description of the 
	   contence of main databases in the biology, especially 
	   in the genome research.

	   E.g.:
	     name:     GDB (Genome Data Base)
	     contence: Human gene mapping data organized by map location.
	     status:    Schema and data ... public available. 
	     location:  Source from John Hopkins University.
	                ftp ...
	                Also supportet by several national organisations
	                like the German Cancer Resaearch Center within
	                the EMBNET.
	                           ...
	    queriing:  Working with stored procedures
	    datamodel: Relational
	    database:  Sybase
	    remarks:   There is a connection to OMIM (Online version of
	               Mendelian Inheritance in Man; catalog of genes 
	               and genetic disorders) via a MIM number. ...
	    ...

	2. Or for the hints to sources or persons where I can get more 
	   information about this topic.
	


	Thank you for your kind cooperation


	Alexander Schuetzle

  
	


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From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!bcm!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Austria.EU.net!newsfeed.ACO.net!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!sun.rediris.es!obelix.cica.es!news
From: bb1dopeg@lucano.uco.es (Gabriel Dorado)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Lasergene (DNAStar) on an AWS 95 (A/UX) machine
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I am about to implement an EtherNet network of Lasergene (DNAStar)
running from an Apple Workgroup Server 95 (AWS 95) with A/UX operating
system. I would like to know if there is any similar network installed
somewhere, as well as the number of simultaneous users it can support
performing database searches.
 
Thanks a lot for your help!
 
 Gabriel Dorado
 Dep. Bioquimica y Biol. Mol.
 Fac. Veterinaria
 14071 Cordoba
 SPAIN
 Internet Email: bb1dopeg@lucano.uco.es

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: kworley@polka.imgen.bcm.tmc.edu (Kim Worley)
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.software,bionet.biophysics
Subject: Re: Searching for biological info-systems...
Date: 2 Aug 1994 20:52:19 GMT
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Check out the Survey of Molecular Biology Databases
and Servers at 

http://www.ai.sri.com/people/pkarp/mimbd/rsmith.html

It includes up-to-date lists of databases and servers 
as well as lists of lists and servers that link multiple
databases.  

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu (Michael J. Edelman)
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Subject: algorithm for counting peaks
Date: 2 Aug 1994 19:34:25 GMT
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I've been asked to write a program that will read time-series data consisting
of counts of events per period, and output the numbers of peaks in a given 
specified time interval. The Tricky part is in defining what constitutes a peak. 

The researchers are using some canned package from Data Translation that doesn't 
perform this task; they've been eyeballing the data up until now. It's been 
about 16 years since I did any work in electrophysiology where I used to do
this kind of coding, so I'm at a loss where to start. 

Can someone direct me to a good reference, or perhaps suggest a simple algorithm?
We may also have to deal with a shifting baseline in the data as well.

--mike

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: epstein@gold.nlm.nih.gov (Jonathan Epstein)
Subject: Re: Nentrez and Linux?
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axa12@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashok Aiyar) writes:
: 
: 
: Can someone help me get Nentrez compiled and working under
: Linux (Slackware 2.1); kernel 1.0.9?  Better yet, if you have
: a compiled binary, you are willing to share that would be
: terrific!!
: 
: Thanks,
: Ashok
: -- 
: Ashok Aiyar                                      tel: (216) 368-3300
: Department of Biochemistry                       fax: (216) 368-4544
: CWRU School of Medicine                  ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu


I just wanted to follow-up to inform interested parties that, using a guest
account on Ashok's machine (thanks, Ashok!), I have produced a header
file for Linux which allows the NCBI toolbox to be compiled under Linux.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to produce Network Entrez (Nentrez) on
Ashok's machine, because he doesn't yet have the Motif libraries and include
files.  However, I have confirmed the correct operation of the client/server
software, using the Entrez Network Service.

So, if you fit into one or more of the following catagories, please contact me:
  (1) Want to run Network Entrez on Linux, and you have Linux & Motif
  (2) Have Linux and Motif, and would like to help-out Ashok (he's a good
      guy, and helps a lot of people, including me)
  (3) Want to run other NCBI toolbox applications under Linux


In any case, the new header file (corelib/ncbilcl.lnx) will appear in the
next release of the NCBI toolbox, available by anonymous FTP from
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:/toolbox/ncbi_tools/ncbi.tar.Z.  Please address general
NCBI toolbox questions to toolbox@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.

Cheers,

- Jonathan



Jonathan Epstein                                Phone: (301)496-2475
National Center for Biotechnology Information   E-mail: epstein@ncbi.nlm.nih.govNational Library of Medicine                    Building 38A, Room 8N805
National Institutes of Health                   8600 Rockville Pike
						Bethesda, MD 20894


From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: mjcoyne@warren.med.harvard.edu (Michael Coyne)
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Subject: Re: DNA pattern libraries
Date: 2 Aug 1994 16:22:56 GMT
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In article <kofoid-280794123119@ls-14.biology.utah.edu>,
kofoid@biology.utah.edu (Eric Kofoid) wrote:

> I am hunting for pattern or profile libraries of nucleic acid features
> (promoters, transcriptional stops, ribosome binding sites, etc.) which can
> be used with GCG programs such as FINDPATTERNS and PROFILESEARCH. Please
> reply to the group, as I think this is of general interest.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Eric.
> 
> __________________________________________________
> kofoid                     --- close to the truth,
>                            --- far from the sea
> __________________________________________________

I, too, am hunting for such a thing.  I would be very interested in any
replies you might get -- I scan this newsgroup (which doesn't seem to have
much traffic), but if you get any replies via e-mail, I hope you'll share
them.

There was a thread on the bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts by someone looking
for a database of transcription factor binding sequences.  Apparently,
there is a database(s) maintained at NCBI (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) which may be
what you're (we're) looking for.  The description in the reply described a
SITES database, available in many formats (GCG, FASTA, etc.) in the
/repository/databses directory.

I haven't had a chance to check it out (just picked up the methds-reagnts
thread yesterday), but it might be helpful.

Let me know if you trip over any other hot leads...

Mike
mjcoyne@warren.med.harvard.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: Schuetzle@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Alexander Schuetzle)
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.molbio.genome-program,bionet.software,bionet.biophysics
Subject: Searching for standards ...
Date: 2 Aug 1994 16:30:23 -0700
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	Hi all,

	I have some  questions  about  standardisation  efforts in the 
	genom research (biology).

	Are  there  any  exact  and  unique  definitions (syntax) for
	the dataobjects ( like genes,  chromosomes,  . . . )  in  the 
	genom research?

	Are there some kinds of methods to handle these objects, i.e.
	how to represent ( graphical, textual, ...) them and so else?

	If  you  know some (de facto) standards or conventions please 
	inform  me  or give  some  hints where I can get some further
	informations!


	Thank you for your kind cooperation


	Alexander Schuetzle

  
	


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University of Stuttgart                                     
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Breitwiesenstrasse 20-22                                Phone: +49-711-7816-389
D-70565 Stuttgart                                       Fax.:  +49-711-7816-424
Germany                         alexander.schuetzle@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: cgochiku@e4e.oac.uci.edu (Clark Ochikubo, MD)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Mac MEDLINE database organizer
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For those of you out there with Macs who use MEDLINE and would like a way
to put those text files of downloaded references into a database, check out
medline-hc.sit in the Stanford archives.  It is a hypercard stack I wrote
that allows fast importing of references, including the abstracts.

-- 
Clark Ochikubo, MD  <cgochiku@e4e.oac.uci.edu>
Fellow, Neonatal/Perinatal Medicine
Department of Pediatrics
University of California at Irvine Medical Center
Orange, California

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: anders@phoenix.princeton.edu
Subject: Environmental Simulators
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	The purpose of this post is to find software simulations of the earths  
environment, especially the atmosphere.  But first a little background  
information.

	I am working for Professor Philander and Mr. Feiveson this summer.   
They are teaching a course this fall about the atmosphere and the environment.   
The course will be for undergraduates at Princeton University, and is not  
geared towards scientists but all students with a general interest in the  
environment.  
	The lecturers hope to use computer programs, via a projector, to  
illustrate their concepts more effectively.  This primarily takes the form of  
graphic simulations of environmental processes.  For example one would like to  
show how altering mixes of gasses affects the climate, etc...  SimEarth is one  
program which will probably be used, this should give you a real good idea of  
the kind of course being taught.  (Though programs whose output is through  
graphs might be fine too.)  Small Blue Planet might also be useful, though I  
don't think it is interactive (?).  We are not sure of others but they should  
be for Mac or IBM, and may be on disk or CD-Rom.  Among the variables and  
effects to be illustrated are Milankovitch Cycles, Ice Ages, the Ozone Layer  
and lack thereof, the Greenhouse Effect, deforestation, tilt and orbit of  
earth.  
	In short these programs should be readily accessible to your average  
bright youth, and should not require massive quantities of computing power.   
Programs which encourage experimentation and attendant manipulation of  
variables are to be preferred.  However any information about anything "really  
neat" relating to this post is still greatly encouraged.
	Thank you for any forthcoming help.
-Anders Mikkelsen

P.S.  Please reply via E-mail.

Posted to 
bionet.software
comp.edu
comp.sys.mac.apps
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: [?] UNIX sequence editor [?]
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Eric Cabot (ecec@quads.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: I agree with Brian Fristensky's comments regarding GDE. It is a
: great application. The main problem regarding GDE, though,
: is that it requires X-windows, to which many, if not most,
: of us do not have access.  

Fortunately, with the advent of Linux, this is not longer true. Linux
is a UNIX-compatible operating system for 386 and 486, running Xwindows
happily with >= 8 MB of RAM. If you have a PC in your lab and about 100 MB
of free space on your hard disk, give it a try!

--Cornelius.

--
/* Cornelius Krasel, Abt. Lohse, Genzentrum, D-82152 Martinsried, Germany */
/* email: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de                 fax: +49 89 8578 3795 */
/* "People are DNA's way of making more DNA." (Edward O. Wilson, 1975)    */

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: afrinl@honc.mhs.musc.edu (Lawrence B. Afrin, M.D.)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: BLAST searching finally works with Win3.1 Mosaic!
Date: 3 Aug 1994 00:01:45 GMT
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Howdy, netters,

Just thought y'all'd like to know...

Forgive me if I'm telling you something you already know, but I thought 
this was fairly significant molecular biology software news from the 
World Wide Web front: the latest NCSA Mosaic for Windows release (July 
27th, version 2.0 alpha 6) now allows successful BLAST searching from the 
Win3.1/WfW/WinNT platform!  Previously, with versions 2.0 alpha 2 through 
alpha 5, you could get as far as displaying the form and entering your 
search parameters, but when you clicked on Submit, you would never get a 
response back -- no answers, no error messages, nothing.  But with alpha 
6 -- hurrah! -- you get the appropriate BLAST response.  (Quiet, now, all 
of you HyperBLASTing Mac'ers out there who are laughing your heads off at 
how behind-the-times we IBM'ers are.)  From the little bit of testing 
I've just finished with alpha 6 and BLAST, it looks like the BLAST folks 
could maybe tweak the HTML output a bit to improve the formatting of the 
response, but all in all, it's a 1,000% improvement over no response at 
all!

Other improvements in alpha 6: plugging a memory leak which was causing 
(at least for my installation) serious performance degradation when 
retrieving *large* pages; a noticeable improvement in speed; elimination 
of some of the more serious page-display bugs; and significant bug fixes 
in page printing when using HP Laserjet drivers (the hardcopy is now 
pretty much readable, rather than being a candidate for "Portrait of the 
Month" at the Museum of Modern Art).

Just sent a complimentary message to mosaic-win@ncsa.uiuc.edu -- maybe 
you other WinMosaic users should, too, if you feel like I do about alpha 
6.

Have fun!

Larry Afrin, M.D.
afrinl@honc.mhs.musc.edu
Hollings Cancer Center
Medical University of South Carolina

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: bmb5meb@biovax.leeds.ac.uk
Subject: PASCAL compiling problems
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Hi there,

I'm having problems compiling the SCRUTINeer program on a VAX system and was
wondering if someone could help out. When I try to compile the MAPMAKER
section on a DEC MicroVAX 3600 series machine running VAX/VMS v5.5-2 I get
the following error message.
 
 Entry_Array    : [VOLATILE, ALIGNED( 9 ), BYTE(1548000)]
...........................................^
%PASCAL-E-SIZEATRTYPCON, Size attribute / type conflict

No-one here seems to know anything about PASCAL and neither do I, so if 
anyone can give me a clue as to what is wrong and how to fix it, I would
appreciate it.

Mike.

Michael Beck (Leeds University Rifle Coach) :  Juggle 'til you drop
Protein Database Group, University of Leeds :
                                            :  To all masochists, try doing
e-mail : bmb5meb@biovax.leeds.ac.uk         :  the Mills' Mess when drunk.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: [?] UNIX sequence editor [?]
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Robert Miller - EECS (rmiller@ren.eecs.wsu.edu) wrote:
: In article <31ni4dINNsuf@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de> krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel) writes:
: >Eric Cabot (ecec@quads.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: >: I agree with Brian Fristensky's comments regarding GDE. It is a
: >: great application. The main problem regarding GDE, though,
: >: is that it requires X-windows, to which many, if not most,
: >: of us do not have access.  
: >
: >Fortunately, with the advent of Linux, this is not longer true. Linux
: >is a UNIX-compatible operating system for 386 and 486, running Xwindows
: >happily with >= 8 MB of RAM. If you have a PC in your lab and about 100 MB
: >of free space on your hard disk, give it a try!
: >

:  Actually, the problem with GDE is that it requires XView, a widget set that is 
: public domain but doesn't quite run on every Unix around.

As already stated, GDE runs just fine under Linux. Unfortunately, the
executables for the latest version aren't available via ftp yet (maybe
I'll try to compile it when I have put the complete XView includes
on my machine).

--Cornelius.

--
/* Cornelius Krasel, Abt. Lohse, Genzentrum, D-82152 Martinsried, Germany */
/* email: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de                 fax: +49 89 8578 3795 */
/* "People are DNA's way of making more DNA." (Edward O. Wilson, 1975)    */

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: rmiller@ren.eecs.wsu.edu (Robert Miller - EECS)
Subject: Re: [?] UNIX sequence editor [?]
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In article <31ni4dINNsuf@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de> krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel) writes:
>Eric Cabot (ecec@quads.uchicago.edu) wrote:
>: I agree with Brian Fristensky's comments regarding GDE. It is a
>: great application. The main problem regarding GDE, though,
>: is that it requires X-windows, to which many, if not most,
>: of us do not have access.  
>
>Fortunately, with the advent of Linux, this is not longer true. Linux
>is a UNIX-compatible operating system for 386 and 486, running Xwindows
>happily with >= 8 MB of RAM. If you have a PC in your lab and about 100 MB
>of free space on your hard disk, give it a try!
>

 Actually, the problem with GDE is that it requires XView, a widget set that is 
public domain but doesn't quite run on every Unix around.  tkDCSE is a nice effort
as well, but source code is not included -- so it's only for sun, sgi, and vaxen.

Tom Flores has a nice product called DisGUIse, runs under Tcl/Tk (which does 
seem to run on most Unices, full functionality coming soon for Pcs and Macs),
and includes a sequence editor as an example application.  Should be out in
September, I'm told...

					rob.

rmiller@bsm.bioc.ucl.ac.uk





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From: GARTMANN@IMMUNBIO.MPG.DE (Christoph Gartmann)
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In <1994Aug3.111007.12311@leeds.ac.uk> bmb5meb@biovax.leeds.ac.uk writes:

> I'm having problems compiling the SCRUTINeer program on a VAX system and was
> wondering if someone could help out. When I try to compile the MAPMAKER
> section on a DEC MicroVAX 3600 series machine running VAX/VMS v5.5-2 I get
> the following error message.
>  
>  Entry_Array    : [VOLATILE, ALIGNED( 9 ), BYTE(1548000)]
> ...........................................^
> %PASCAL-E-SIZEATRTYPCON, Size attribute / type conflict

Hm, probabely I can help but I need to see the whole variable definition. Thus,
specify some more lines of the code in question.

Regards
  Christoph Gartmann


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From: Bill.Anderson@launchpad.unc.edu (C.Dr. C. William Anderson)
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Subject: ? CD-ROM drives/drivers for SGI Indy ?
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Does anyone know of a (3rd party) source for cd-rom drives and drivers
that will fly on an SGI Indy?  I need to add one but SGI's price is way
beyond my current budget for these items.  

Thank you for any help you may be able to give me.

Bill Anderson
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Hi, there!

Is the version(MacX 1.2) of the communication tool(MacTCP Tool) for Macintosh
current? Is MacTCP Tool(MacX 1.2) a free software? Where can I get it?

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: dh30@pop.th-darmstadt.de (Bernhard Seehaus)
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Dear listener,

I«m looking for a free of charge internet resource to perform multiple
alignments between DNA sequences. I didn«t find one until now; does anybody
know something?
I often wonder why you can«t specify a(some) certain acession number(s)
instead of whole databases when performing e.g. a blast search at NCBI. The
problem is I can«t see some interesting alignments due to sequences
occuring only in the score list but not as aligned sequences. 

Any help is highly appreciated, thanks in advance

Bernhard Seehaus
Institut of biochemistry
University of Darmstadt
Germany
e-mail dh30@pop.th-darmstadt.de

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From: ecec@quads.uchicago.edu (Eric Cabot)
Subject: Re: [?] UNIX sequence editor [?]
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I agree with Brian Fristensky's comments regarding GDE. It is a
great application. The main problem regarding GDE, though,
is that it requires X-windows, to which many, if not most,
of us do not have access.  

With respect to S. Bunka's original query:
> Where can I find a (the sources) sequence editor like "esee"
> for U*IX (Linux; gcc / ansi compiler) ?  

I can offer only a little help. I'd be glad to send the 
Esee source code to anyone who wants to take a stab a writing
a version for their favorite platform. Unfortunately,
Esee is not written in any flavor of C, it is in (Borland) Pascal.

Regards,
 Eric Cabot

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From: salger@wap18.zi.biologie.uni-muenchen.de (Klaus Salger)
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Bernhard Seehaus (dh30@pop.th-darmstadt.de) wrote:
: Dear listener,

: I«m looking for a free of charge internet resource to perform multiple
: alignments between DNA sequences. I didn«t find one until now; does anybody
: know something?
 (snip)

Bernhard,
try ClustalV. It's available via FTP from ftp.embl-heidelberg.de
(or via www http://www.embl-heidelberg.de) at least for UNIX,
DOS and Mac, the sources are included.
  Klaus

Klaus Salger
Zoologisches Institut der LMU Muenchen
e-mail: salger@zi.biologie.uni-muenchen.de


From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: bb1dopeg@lucano.uco.es (Gabriel Dorado)
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Subject: Lasergene (DNAStar) on an AWS 95 (A/UX) machine
Date: 3 Aug 1994 10:55:55 GMT
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I am about to implement an EtherNet network of Lasergene (DNAStar)
running from an Apple Workgroup Server 95 (AWS 95) with A/UX operating
system. I would like to know if there is any similar network installed
somewhere, as well as the number of simultaneous users it can support
performing database searches.
 
Thanks a lot for your help!
 
Gabriel Dorado
Internet Email: bb1dopeg@lucano.uco.es

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: HAVILAND@KIDS.WUSTL.EDU (David L. Haviland, Ph.D.)
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In <315b8a$13v@alf.uib.no> mblgj@alf.uib.no writes:

> Is the Macintosh version of Papyrus released?
> 
> --
> Geir Johannessen		* Phone : + 47 55 54 45 29
> Laboratory for biotechnology	* Fax   : + 47 55 31 49 52
> University of Bergen		* E-mail:mblgj@alf.uib.no
> Norway				*

Having just e-mailed Dave Goldman on that very subject, his response is 
'yes'.  A Mac version of Papyrus is currently under development and if he 
is on schedule, a beta-version should be tested shortly.  Dave was 
predicting a late fall release of a papyrus mac version.  After the mac 
version, next on the slate is a Windoze version with an unknown release 
date.

hope this helps,
David

p.s. no afilliation with RSD, wish there were, but just a rabid Papyrus 
user!
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From: cgochiku@e4e.oac.uci.edu (Clark Ochikubo, MD)
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Subject: Mac MEDLINE database organizer
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In article <cgochiku-020894031408@dialin33621.slip.nts.uci.edu>,
cgochiku@e4e.oac.uci.edu (Clark Ochikubo, MD) wrote:

> For those of you out there who have Macintoshes and are looking for a
> program to  organize your MEDLINE references, check out medline-hc.sit in
> the Stanford archives via FTP - it's a hypercard stack I've written to do
> exactly this, including reading in the abstract...
> 

The Stanford archives are at: sumex-aim.stanford.edu
/info-mac/rec/medline-hc
There are also mirror sites available

In addition, should be available soon on Univ. Michigan mac archives at:
   mac.archive.umich.edu


-- 
Clark Ochikubo, MD  <cgochiku@e4e.oac.uci.edu>
Fellow, Neonatal/Perinatal Medicine
Department of Pediatrics
University of California at Irvine Medical Center
Orange, California

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: igor0@MATISSE.LS.HUJI.AC.IL (Igor Pechersky)
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Subject: Protein topology representation
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Hi everyone,

 I would appreciate any information about accessibility of protein topology
 software (such as TOPS, algorithm described by Flores, Moss & Thornton in 
 Prot Eng, vol. 7 (1993) , 31-37).
 
Thanks in advance,
			Igor Pechersky
			The Alexander Silberman Institute of Life Science
			The Hebrew University of Jerusalem


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From: okapi@freeport.uwasa.fi (Nikolaj Pecenko)
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Hi!
I would like to collect as many biology related CD-ROM titles as possible.
I mean, only titles:-)
I know about Multimedia Encyclopedia of Mammalian Biology (in fact I have this
one and I can say it is excelent). I also know about Animals! (San Diego Zoo),
Mammals (Natl. geographics), Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia and that's about
it.
I figure there must be some more of them, so if you know one, please let me know. Thanks.

Nikolaj.
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Nikolaj Pecenko
Biological Institute
Ljubljana

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: kulmburg@sun1.ukl.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Kulmburg)
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Subject: Plotting of cloning results
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Dear collegues,

I did a lot of transfections recently and got lots of clones. To compare
the efficiency of different transfection procedures, I would like the data
as follows:

Imagine, I have 10 clones, where 5 produce nothing, 4 produce 1 unit and
one produces 16 units. The mean is 2 units. Presentation should be like
that:


16u      +                                             indicates one clone
15
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2        ------                                             shows the mean
1       ++++                                           indicates four clones
0       +++++                                         indicates five clones


How is this presentation called. And of course, are there computer programs
that allow this sort of presentation. (Of course, I could do a normal
scatter with cricketGraph or GraphMaster, but this gives me only one point
at zero units instead of five.)
Are there any free programs I could get quicklier rather then wait to buy one?

Thank you very much in advance                  Peter

Peter KULMBURG (193.196.226.110    MacName: ktl110.ukl.uni-freiburg.de)
home: Tel./Fax:+49 761 808439   work: Tel.:+49 761 270/7195   Fax:/7177



From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: Chris.Jones@nottingham.ac.uk (Chris Jones)
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Subject: "Flat tape format"?
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:47:16
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We use the Hitachi DNA analysis software package DNASIS and I always have 
trouble importing DNA files I pull off using Gopher. When I asked Hitachi they 
told me that I should be able to do it if I download in "flat tape format". 
Does anyone know what this is and how I ensure that I down load my files using 
it? I should saw that I use Hgopher and usually go in via the Oxford Mol Biol 
gopher.

Thanks a lot

Chris Jones

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Subject: RE: ALGORITHM FOR COUNTING PEAKS
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Michael Edelman wrote:
 
>I've been asked to write a program that will read time-series data consisting
>of counts of events per period, and output the numbers of peaks in a given
>specified time interval.The Tricky part is in defining what constitutes a peak.
>The researchers are using some canned package from Data Translation that does
>not perform this task; they've been eyeballing the data up until now. It's been
>about 16 years since I did any work in electrophysiology where I used to do
>this kind of coding, so I'm at a loss where to start.
>Can someone direct me to a good reference, or perhaps suggest a simple
>algorithm?
>We may also have to deal with a shifting baseline in the data as well.
 
Dear Michael,
 
there is a wealth of peak detection programs, used mainly by endocrinologists
to analyze hormonal data series. None of theme is a simple routine, however.
It is not easy to discriminate between noise and signal, especially in
biological data, and these programs are not so objective as they purport to
be, since the user has to set a number of parameters which can completely
change the output of the program. The shifting baseline (as, for example,
in cortisol or TSH secretion) or a zero baseline but with peaks mainly in
one half of a 24-hr period (as for GH secretion) pose an additional problem.
Some of the available programs are:
- Detect 5.0, by Munson and Rodbard (PJM@HELIX.NIH.GOV, I believe), is an
  all-purpose, well known program. It is freeware, and they send you the
  manual as well (very useful...)
- Cluster, by J.D. Veldhuis, uses a different mathematical approach (simpler)
  and gives comparable results.
- Ultra, is a program (not IBM compatible) of which I have no details except
  for its name, and a reference: Computers in Endocrinology, by Forti and
  Guardabasso, Serono Symposia from Raven press).
- Pulsar, is a program that could solve your shifting baseline problem,
  since it includes a routine to eliminate trends. A new version including
  data deconvolution (calculation of instantaneous secretion rate) was
  scheduled to come out this year, but I have not heard of it to date.
 
I suggest that you ask your local endocrinologists, they may have a copy of
these programs. If the above Internet address is not correct, write me again
and I'll try to dig it out from my mountain of notes/photocopies.
 
Hope I have been of some help,
 
Paolo
 
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From: kulmburg@sun1.ukl.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Kulmburg)
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Subject: data bases programs
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Dear netters,

I just talked to a friend of mine who is working with Macs in Austria. He
asked me whether I knew a good and performant program for data bases. It is
quite nice what he wants to get out of it.

it must
1) treat formatted text and numbers
2) allow large texts (>2 pages) per cell
3) deal with about 10 Mb finally
4) coordinate over 1000 data groups, each with many data fields

Ouf, I do not know any program like that. Once I have been told about 4th
dimension. Would it be a good program?

Thank you for any information       Peter

Peter KULMBURG (193.196.226.110    MacName: ktl110.ukl.uni-freiburg.de)
home: Tel./Fax:+49 761 808439   work: Tel.:+49 761 270/7195   Fax:/7177



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  I am looking for a program that determines the rates of synonymous and
nonsynonymous substititions between two sequences.  My preference is for a
Mac based program but I would appreciate info on anything that is
available.  
Thanks.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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	The latest release of Genbank (83, but 82 may have had a
problem as well) broke the part of the Eugene/SAM software package
that extracts sequences from Genbank.  Eugene was not prepared for a
gbpri.seq file (or any other .seq) longer than 100 mbytes.

	The fix is simple; in the file:

 eugene3.3/src/programs/genbank/src/gbindex/gbindex.c

change the two lines in the printf() statements that write out the .idx
files to larger values.  (hint: look for \t%8d\t%8d and change the 8's to
10's).

	Then re-index the database.

Bill Pearson
the last Eugene/SAM ...


From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: rossl@gmu.wh.su.edu.au (Dr. Ross Lazarus)
Subject: Re: algorithm for counting peaks
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There's a whole raftload of literature on peak identification and 
characterization in noisy data. I'm a little familiar with the problem in 
the context of endocrine research into pulsatile hormone activity - 
typical of hormones such as LH and growth hormone in most species.

Suffice it to say the problem is far from trivial ! The shifting baseline is 
a particular challenge. I've implemented two of the most commonly used 
algorithms (Veldhuis' CLUSTER and Merriam & Wachter's PULSAR) in a pc 
package which can cope with fairly horrible data - be warned, it's a 
black art. I'd be happy to discuss availability and pricing via direct email 
with anyone interested...

In article <31m741$sjq@oak.oakland.edu> mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu (Michael J. Edelman) writes:
>From: mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu (Michael J. Edelman)
>Subject: algorithm for counting peaks
>Date: 2 Aug 1994 19:34:25 GMT

>I've been asked to write a program that will read time-series data consisting
>of counts of events per period, and output the numbers of peaks in a given 
>specified time interval. The Tricky part is in defining what constitutes a peak. 

>The researchers are using some canned package from Data Translation that doesn't 
>perform this task; they've been eyeballing the data up until now. It's been 
>about 16 years since I did any work in electrophysiology where I used to do
>this kind of coding, so I'm at a loss where to start. 

>Can someone direct me to a good reference, or perhaps suggest a simple algorithm?
>We may also have to deal with a shifting baseline in the data as well.

Dr Ross Lazarus, Head, Epidemiology and Biostatistics Unit,
Community Medicine, Westmead Hospital, Westmead NSW 2145, Australia.
Email: rossl@gmu.wh.su.edu.au  Fax: +61 2 6891049  Tel: +61 2 6336677


From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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I too had problems getting gif files from gopher. The solution
I used was to look at the site where the files were and
then transferred them using ftp. Michael

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>     Are any Netters aware of a Mosaic Home Page (or other
>interface) that provides "online and real-time" access and
>use of computer-aided instruction (CAI) or computer-based
>training (CBT) sessions (of any type)?

>Please respond to me, or to the list or newsgroup.

I am currently developing a CAL package on the Web.  It is
a WWW version of A.G.Booth's Case Notes in Preclinical
Biochemistry.

Perhaps I should introduce myself.  I work for BioNet TLTP -
no relation to biosci bionet.  TLTP is the U.K.'s Teaching and
Learning Technology Project.  Our consortium's aim is the
effective implementation of CAL in our courses and
dissemination of best practice.

I've become interested in W3 recently and we have set up
an experimental W3 service to explore ways in which it
could help meet our objectives.

Many of my fellow teachers are sceptical about W3 as a
teaching tool because they, like me, believe that education is
about far more than just soaking up information.    However,
although WWW is a powerful source of information,  it is capable
of being much more.

So to convince myself that WWW can be as interactive as any
other delivery platform for CAL I set about writing WWW Case Notes.
Case Notes was designed by Andrew Booth (Now BioNet TLTP
director) to teach Biochemistry in a Clinical Setting.  Patient
notes are presented and tests can be requested.  The program is
sensitive to the context in which information is requested and will
warn or rebuke the student as appropriate.  For example, if you
ask for a liver biopsy before you have examined the patient you
receive a stern reply.  It is also possible to kill a patient.  E.g.
if the patient is suffereing from low blood glucose any procedures
that involve fasting may be fatal.  Eventually a diagnosis is 
possible.

Keeping track of many simultaneous sessions is a real serious
programming problem but it is solved and seems to work effectively.

To try out the experimental WWW Case Notes patient 'Peter' go
to our home page and turn off to our discussion area.  URL:

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/bionet.html

Jon Maber



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: As already stated, GDE runs just fine under Linux. Unfortunately, the
: executables for the latest version aren't available via ftp yet (maybe
: I'll try to compile it when I have put the complete XView includes
: on my machine).

: --Cornelius.
For all that answered my posting thanks a lot. I've found on the
net GDE 2.1 for Linux and am mostly happy with this.
If someone is interested: (binaries AND the required OLD Xview libs)
130.91.180.84 opened at Wed Jul 27 14:12:44 1994

megasun.bch.umontreal.ca
	-> "/pub/gde/linux/GDE2.0_manual.ps.z" 
	-> "/pub/gde/linux/GDE2.1-Linux-.GDEmenus.z" 
	-> "/pub/gde/linux/GDE2.1-Linux-bin.tar.z" 
	-> "/pub/gde/linux/GDE2.1-Linux-help.tar.z"
	-> "/pub/gde/linux/GDE2.1-Linux-xview-libs.tar.z"

Cheers, Sebastian


                      [ Sebastian.Bunka@vu-wien.ac.at ]
                        phone:                   FAX:
                +43-1-71155260          +43-1-7149110
Location: earth, europe, austria, vienna  Inst. of Bacteriology  Vet.Univ.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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You could also look for the following paper:

- Canhos et al. Software tools and databases for bacterial systematics 
and their dissemination via global networks. Antonie van Leeuwenhoek 
64:205-229, 1993.

Regards,
Heitor


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Some comments about using The BCM Genefinder new service:
============================================================================

> From: bayer@darwin.med.utah.edu (Steve Bayer)
> Message-Id: <9408042039.AA25499@darwin.med.utah.edu>
> To: solovyev@cmb.bcm.tmc.edu
> Subject: Re: New gene identification service

On August 4, 2:39pm, Steve Bayer wrote:

> Hi.  I've tried your gene id servers with good results when comparing
> the results with GRAIL and our in-house software called XPound.  The
> programs you have made available are very impressive.  Thank you.
>
> However, I'm having trouble understanding the difference between the
> various servers.  The descriptions you posted make some of them (e.g.,
> FGENEH, FEXH, HEXON) appear to do the same thing.  Could you please
> send a little more information about how the various programs (i.e.,
> FGENEH, FEXH, HEXON, and HSPL) differ?

Some comments about using The BCM Genefinder new service:
============================================================================

      The Baylor College Of Medicine Computational Biology Group
                             Houston, TX

The services are 
FGENEH - search for gene structure with exons assembling by dynamic programming 
FEXH   - search for 5'-, internal and 3'-exons
HEXON  - search for internal exons 
HSPL   - search for splice sites
SSP    - prediction of a-helix and b-starnd segments in globular proteins.

The first four program are designed for Human gene analysis, but they are
still work good for Rodenta genes too.
  
The short descriptions of the programs have been sent to BIONEWS users one
week ago, and can be received from solovyev@cmb.bcm.tmc.edu.

The main differences of the programs:

1. FGENEH makes exon assembling and this is very important for true gene model
   construction. But in a case when one of the internal exons is not predicted
   (for example due to sequence errors in splice site conservative positions),
   the final gene structure may be significantly disturbed. Therefore, it will
   be useful to predict the potential exons without assembling (by FEXH program)
   and check the difference of exons prediction.

2. Sometimes FEXH predicts 5'- and 3'-exons which win in competition 
   with flanked internal exons. If you have a partially  sequenced gene 
   without 5'- or 3'-flanked region, you can compare results of FEXH and 
   HEXON and get a more accurate decision. 
   
3. Splice sites prediction will be more reliable if you will predict gene
   structure (FGENEH) or exons (FEXH or HEXON). But for special analysis
   (for example, search for alternative splicing variants) you may use
   splice site prediction itself (HSSP).

=================================================================================

REPEAT:

      The Baylor College Of Medicine Computational Biology Group
			     Houston, TX
		       announces a new service
			 The BCM Genefinder.

The services are FGENEH, FEXH, HEXON, HSPL, and SSP.

This message details FGENEH

NOTE: This service is temporarily being provided through the
University of Houston Gene-Server.  Only two jobs will be run at a
time.


				FGENEH
	 Prediction of gene structure in Human DNA sequences

Analysis of uncharacterized human sequences is available by sending the
file containing a sequence name and a sequence (no more than 80
char/line) to

	service@theory.bchs.uh.edu
with the subject line "FGENEH". 

Example: mail -s FGENEH service@theory.bchs.uh.edu < test.seq

where test.seq a file with the sequence.
 
Method description:
**********************
   Algorithm firstly predicts all possible potential internal exons, 
   and potential 5' and 3'-exon for each internal by linear discriminant
   functions combining characteristics describing various contextual
   features of these exons. Then by method of dynamic programming it 
   searches for optimal combination of these exons and construct gene model.
   
Accuracy:
************
Accuracy have been estimated for the set of 212 complete 
   human genes extracted from GenBank
   and compared with the accuracy of Grail-2 Email server for the same
   data set. It must be noted that these sequences are not independent from the
   "Fgeneh" and "Grail-2" training data.

 Test1 contains the nucleotide sequences from -150 bp before the first coding
   region and until +150 bp after the last coding region.
 Test2 contains  nucleotide sequences of whole GenBank entries.

               Test1:     Fgeneh     Grail-2      Test2:   Fgeneh    Grail-2

Exact exons               80%        39%	   	     73%       39%

Exon nucleotides          91%(0.88)  76%(0.74)             90%(0.82) 73%(0.75)


The numbers in () are the correlation coefficients.
		
For exon prediction in partially sequenced genes you can use "fexh"
(5'-, internal and 3'-exon prediction) and "hexon" (internal exon
prediction), see below.

Submitting sequences via email:
*******************************

  For email submission the sequences must have the following format:  

Name of your  sequence
ccatctctgtcttgcaggacaatgccgtcttctgtctcgtggggcatcctcctgctggca
ggcctgtgctgcctggtccctgtctccctggctgaggatccccagggagatgctgcccag
aagacagatacatcccaccatgatcaggatcacccaaccttcaacaagatcacccccaac
ctggctgagttcgccttcagcctataccgccagctggcacaccagtccaacagcaccaat
atcttcttctccccagtgagcatcg...............

   (Restrict the line length to 80 characters or less).

   You have to send the file containing the sequence to: 

   service@theory.bchs.uh.edu

   Subject line must be:
   FGENEH

   Example: mail -s FGENEH service@theory.bchs.uh.edu < test.seq

Fgeneh output:		
****************
   1st line - name of your sequence
   2nd line - length of your sequence
   3d line - number of potential exons
   4th line and next - positions of predicted exons 
   For example:
   HUMALPHA     4556 bp ds-DNA             PRI       15-SEP-1 
   length of sequence -   4556
   number of potential exon:  10
   380 -    516 
   611 -    727
   839 -    954 
  1147 -   1321
  1819 -   1953 
  2053 -   2125
  2254 -   2388
  2470 -   2661 
  2881 -   2997
  3120 -   3562 

Reference:

  1. Solovyev V.V.,Salamov A.A., Lawrence C.B.
   Predicting internal exons by oligonucleotide composition and 
   discriminant analysis of spliceable open reading frames. 
   (Nucl.Acids Res.,1994, in press).
  2. Solovyev V.V., Salamov A.A. , Lawrence C.B.
   The prediction of human exons by oligonucleotide composition and 
   discriminant analysis of spliceable open reading frames.
   in: The Second International conference on Intelligent systems
   for Molecular Biology (eds. Altman R., Brutlag D.,
   Karp R., Latrop R. and Searls D.), AAAI Press, Menlo Park, CA 
   (1994, in press) 
  3. Solovyev,V., Lawrence,C.B.
    Prediction of human gene structure using dynamic programming 
    and oligonucleotide composition. In: Abstracts of the 4th annual
    Keck symposium. Pittsburgh, 47,1993. 

Problems, comments, and suggestions:
   can be mailed to solovyev@cmb.bcm.tmc.edu.




From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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Subject: Re: OLGCG.....the GUI for the GCG program....who has it!!?!
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Gregory Quinn Ph.D. (gquinn@NICK.MED.USF.EDU) wrote:
: Does anyone have any more info on OLGCG, the GUI for GCG.
: I have Emailed Scott Sammons at Emory (bcresas@bimcore.emory.edu) for some
: information on this, but have heard nothing yet.

: Does anyone know any more about this?

Yes, I sent him email on this matter a while back.
Here is a little cut and paste of Scott's response:

____________________________________________________________
Our GUI was written in C for Solaris 2.3 using a
developers program called devGuide.  It uses the OPENLOOK interface
(which
seemed like a good choice at the time, but which Sun is dropping
support for)
and the Xview library.  Be aware that GCG is about to release version
8
(within the next couple of months) of their software which includes a
motif-based GUI that will work on several platforms (VAX, SGI,
Solaris).
I currently have a beta copy and it does seem to include all the 
functionality that ours has.
______________________________________________________________

If you have access to mosaic, you can use this address to
get more information:

http://bimcore.emory.edu/bimcore_information_page.html

John N


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Does anyone have any more info on OLGCG, the GUI for GCG.
I have Emailed Scott Sammons at Emory (bcresas@bimcore.emory.edu) for some
information on this, but have heard nothing yet.

Does anyone know any more about this?

Thanks

Quinn

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In article <31pd1d$75i@zippo.uwasa.fi> Nikolaj Pecenko,
okapi@freeport.uwasa.fi writes:
>I would like to collect as many biology related CD-ROM titles as
possible.
>I mean, only titles:-)
>I know about Multimedia Encyclopedia of Mammalian Biology (in fact I
have this
>one and I can say it is excelent). I also know about Animals! (San Diego
Zoo),
>Mammals (Natl. geographics), Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia and that's
about
>it.
>I figure there must be some more of them, so if you know one, please let
me know. Thanks.

Greetings from the Great Plains of North America. 
You might consider the CIA World Fact Book CD-ROM (ca $39.00) for
bio-geographical information, the TimeLine of Science and Technology (ca
$50.00) for earth history and tech-history, and the Mayo Family Health
Book CD-ROM (ca $70.00) for human biology/health information.  Good luck
to you!

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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From: bb1dopeg@lucano.uco.es (Gabriel Dorado)
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Subject: Lasergene (DNAStar) on an AWS 95 (A/UX) machine
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I am about to implement an EtherNet network of Lasergene (DNAStar)
running from an Apple Workgroup Server 95 (AWS 95) with A/UX operating
system. I would like to know if there is any similar network installed
somewhere, as well as the number of simultaneous users it can support
performing database searches.
 
Thanks a lot for your help!
 
Gabriel Dorado
Internet Email: bb1dopeg@lucano.uco.es

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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Hi, I'm wondering if there exisits scanning software(for Mac or PC) to count 
colonies on a given cell culture bottle. This is especially helpful if 
one counts large amounts of cell cultures colonies. Tell me what you use and
what's the best (fastest, most functions, can export to favorite 
spreadsheet) on the market. 

Thanks, all suggestions are welcome. :)




Konrad C. Kim
Senior Lab Tech

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        Have you looked at Freelance for Win.2.01?

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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From: mcfarlan@seas.gwu.edu (Daniel McFarlane)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: NervousSystem: Neuron Modeling & Simulation Tool
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We announce the release for free distribution of "NervousSystem
1.0.gwu"; a neuron modeling and simulation environment for Apple
Macintosh computers (application, source code, and documentation).

"NervousSystem" is a useful context for learning/teaching two popular
topics: computational neuroscience, and object-oriented programming
within a framework.


Here are the contents of the "Read Me" file.

*** ANNOUNCING: ***
NervousSystem 1.0.gwu -- Neuron Modeling and Simulation Environment for
Apple Macintosh  

*** WHAT: ***
NervousSystem is an exciting new simulation tool for exploring the
behavior of networks of neurons, based on a biological model.  
1.  Application (Apple Macintosh computers);
2.  User's Guide (MS Word format);
3.  Source Code & Project File (OOP using the Think Class Library
Framework);
4.  Programmer's Guide (MS Word format).

*** WHY (For Computational Neuroscience): ***
NervousSystem has the following attractive properties for investigating
a biologically based model of neurons and networks of neurons.
1.  free;
2.  it is VERY easy to learn and use (direct manipulation interaction
style);
3.  "easily" expandable and customizable because of well structured OOP
source code;
4.  free.

*** WHY (For Computer Science): ***
NervousSystem  has the following attractive properties for learning
direct-manipulation object-oriented programming within a framework.
1.  free;
2.  elegant direct-manipulation solution;
3.  employs "Model-View-Controller" paradigm;
4.  popular OOP language, C++ (Think Class Objects);
5.  popular framework (Think Class Library);
6.  popular, and inexpensive, development tools (Think C v.5, and
AppMaker);
7.  well crafted by OOP experts (two doctoral student in human-computer
interaction at George Washington University);
8.  robust, ample structure, supports expansion and reuse;
9.  free.

*** WHERE: ***
This software is now available by anonymous ftp from Info-Mac,
"sumex-aim.stanford.edu", in the directory, "sci".  The file is named
"nervous-system-10.hqx".  I suggest copying NervousSystem from a mirror
site, sumex is often too busy (for example, "grind.isca.uiowa.edu"
"mac/infomac/sci/nervous-system-10.hqx").

*** WHEN: ***
Now!!  (as of July 1994)

*** HOW: ***
It's free (and for non-profit use) -- Copy it by anonymous ftp!  
"NervousSystem.sea" is a self-extracting compressed file.  After
copying it to your local directory, double click on it. 
"NervousSystem.1.0.gwu.sea" will self-extract into a folder named
"NervousSystem".  The application, source, user's guide, programmer's
guide, and "Read Me" are located within this folder.

*** WHO: ***
Daniel C. McFarlane
The Naval Research Laboratory, Code 5513
Human-Computer Interaction Lab
4555 Overlook Ave., N.W.
Washington, D.C.  20375-5337
mcfarlan@seas.gwu.edu     (internet address)

Joe Geigel
Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center
BioMedical Group


*** DETAILS: ***
We release these NervousSystem products under the terms of the GNU
General Public License Version 2 as published by the Free Software
Foundation, Inc., 675 Massachusetts Ave., Cambridge, MA  02139,
617-876-3296.  (A copy of this license is included in the Programmer's
Guide.)

Please feel free to redistribute it as you see fit (according to the
provisions of the GNU General Public License).  Copyright (c) 1994,
Daniel C. McFarlane and Joe Geigel.

We hope that you will find this program useful.  However, there is NO
WARRANTY WHATEVER.  We do not offer any warranty or guarantee of any
kind, implied or otherwise.  

The uncompressed "NervousSystem" folder will require about 5MB of hard
disk space.

I am curious about the future of NervousSystem.  If you copy it, and
are interested in it, please send me a note at mcfarlan@seas.gwu.edu
and just let me know who you are.



From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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Subject: Re: Searching for biological info-systems...
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Alexander Schuetzle (schuetzl@hermes.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:
: 	I have some questions about biological databases. 

	What you want to find is LiMB: The list of Molecular Biology
databases.  Last I knew it was being updated regularly by Gifford
Keen of Los Alamos National Laboratories.
	Recent releases of LiMB are available via GOPHER or FTP from
the Indiana University Archives (ftp to fly.bio.indiana.edu  or
gopher to IUBIO) and also available at the NCBI.

	If you have trouble getting it, write to me, and I'll
mail you a copy.

--
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*  Brian Foley               *     If we knew what we were doing   *
*  Molecular Genetics Dept.  *     it wouldn't be called research  *
*  University of Vermont     *                                     *
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Aug 05 23:00:00 1994
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Pardon the multiple cross-postings....kb

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Aug 05 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!CUHHCA.HHMI.COLUMBIA.EDU!wpdb
From: wpdb@CUHHCA.HHMI.COLUMBIA.EDU (WPDB Account)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: WPDB v1.0 Available
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             ------------------------------------------------------
	     WPDB - PC-based Macromolecular Structure Interrogation
                             Version 1.0 Available
             ------------------------------------------------------

WPDB (the Protein Data Bank through Microsoft Windows) is a macromolecular
structure query and analysis tool designed to complement rendering tools
such as Raswin and Kinemage. 

Typical uses
------------
	o Analysis of protein-protein and protein-ligand interactions
	  using the three-level zooming feature of the contact map 
          viewer and the residue selection feature of the 3D-viewer.
	o Analysis of internal interactions in proteins to reveal
	  different folds (e.g. helix-helix hydrophobic stacking,
	  4-helix bundle) using contact map, hydrophobicity profile
          and secondary structure selection feature in 3D-view.
	o Analysis of sequence-structure correlations using sequence
	  search and static property profiles.
        o Analysis of thermal motion using dynamic property profiles.
	o Locate structures based on string searches of combinations
	  of PDB record types and/or sequence patterns.

To take a peek
--------------
           http://cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu/wpdb.html

How to get it?
-------------
	1. Anonymous ftp to cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu (128.59.98.1).
        2. Change directory to /pub/programs/WPDB/doc.
	3. Get the file install.
	4. Follow instructions in the install file.

Note: Two compressed databases are available:
	(i) random selection of 100 structures; 
       (ii) "unique" structures	(320) as defined by Hobohm and Sander.

The README file in /pub/programs/WPDB/doc describes how to get the software 
to build your own database.

Please send questions/comments/criticisms to wpdb@cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu

Some features
-------------

	o 20-fold compression of PDB files (minus REMARK records).
	o Real-time query based on text string searches of PDB record
	  types and sequence.
	o Clickable contact map with three levels of zooming for analyzing
          intra- and inter-molecular interactions: level 1 - molecules,
	  level 2 - fragments, level 3 - atoms.
	o Clickable profile with two levels of zooming to examine static 
          properties (volume, polarity, isoelectric point, hydrophobicity,
	  mean exposure) and isotropic temperature factor.
	o 3D rendering tool with special capabilities for easy selection
	  of substructures and fragments by specifying chains,
	  secondary structure, residues (by location or name).
	o Interoperability between display tools (3-D renderer, contact
	  maps and profile), i.e. selection made in one object will
	  be propagated to other visible display objects. For example
	  selecting a close contact in a contact map will be highlighted
	  in the structure.
	o Secondary structure analysis according to Kabsch and Sander.
	o Comprehensive manual and Windows-based help.
	o A hook to the more advanced display features of Raswin.

Hardware/software requirements
------------------------------
Intel 486/33 processor or above with a color monitor, 4MB RAM or better,
and Windows.

WPDB was designed, written and produced by Ilya Shindyalov and Phil Bourne.

                     ----------------------------------



From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Aug 05 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!CC.IITB.ERNET.IN!chyusia
From: chyusia@CC.IITB.ERNET.IN
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: query on programs like DISMAN DIANA etc
Date: 5 Aug 1994 23:41:53 -0700
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dear netters,
i would like to know if programs like DISMAN, DIANA,DISGEO meant
for distance geometry calculations work on PCs (PC 486). if so
what are the hard ware requirements. also i would be very thankful
if somebody would tell me where i could get programs like ECEPP/2
(hydration shell model included). this would be of a great help to
me for studying the conformational features of small peptides.

thanking you in advance

ramkrishna
graduate student
email: rama@cc.iitb.ernet.in

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Aug 05 23:00:00 1994
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.molbio.genome-program,bionet.software
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From: brianf@med.uvm.edu (Brian Foley)
Subject: Re: Searching for standards ...
Message-ID: <1994Aug6.222442.29931@emba.uvm.edu>
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Alexander Schuetzle (Schuetzle@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:
: 	Hi all,

: 	I have some  questions  about  standardisation  efforts in the 
: 	genom research (biology).

: 	Are  there  any  exact  and  unique  definitions (syntax) for
: 	the dataobjects ( like genes,  chromosomes,  . . . )  in  the 
: 	genom research?

: 	Are there some kinds of methods to handle these objects, i.e.
: 	how to represent ( graphical, textual, ...) them and so else?

: 	If  you  know some (de facto) standards or conventions please 
: 	inform  me  or give  some  hints where I can get some further
: 	informations!


	Well GenBank at NCBI (the United States National 
Center for Biotechnology Information) has ONE set of standards
and routines for using them.  I beleive they collaborate with
some of the Genome Databases in developing these standards, 
but I'm not absolutely sure that they do.  The people who
run OMIM, GDB and other databases may have different standards
and routines.

	For GenBank information:
The DDBJ/EMBL/GenBank Feature Table: Definition, Version 1.06,
World Wide Web
Universal Record Locator (URL)
ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ncbi-genbank/docs

	Also avaiable there are a set of C progamming language 
routines for dealing with "objects" defined in the ASN.1
documents.

--
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*  Brian Foley               *     If we knew what we were doing   *
*  Molecular Genetics Dept.  *     it wouldn't be called research  *
*  University of Vermont     *                                     *
********************************************************************

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Aug 06 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!news.ohsu.edu!rootd
From: rootd@ohsu.edu (Darrell Root)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: MacTCP Tool version
Date: 7 Aug 1994 22:59:41 GMT
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> A popular way to get a recent copy of MacTCP in the U.S. is to buy the
> book The Internet Starter Kit by Adam Engst. It's got a Macintosh disk
> with Mosaic and other Internet tools that require MacTCP.


The internet starter kit is a great way to get the MacTCP stuff.
Be advised, however, that NCSA just released revision 6 of
their alphatest macmosaic client (revision 2 had many problems,
revision 3 caused hard crashes and was removed from the ftp site,
revisions 4 and 5 were never released to the public--just last week
revision 6 came out).

I haven't installed MacMosaic revision 6 yet, but I hope it's more
stable than the revision-2's I've seen.

My point is, if you get the Internet starter kit, I'll bet it has
an old version of macMosaic, and that you might want to pick up
a more recent one (anonymous ftp from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu).

Darrell Root
rootd@ohsu.edu




From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Aug 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: vern@BioData.COM (Vernon Keenan)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: MacTCP Tool version
Date: 6 Aug 1994 18:13:03 GMT
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In article <31o5luINNgd3@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de>,
jiang@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Weiping Jiang) wrote:

> Hi, there!
> 
> Is the version(MacX 1.2) of the communication tool(MacTCP Tool) for Macintosh
> current? Is MacTCP Tool(MacX 1.2) a free software? Where can I get it?

The current version of MacTCP is 2.0.4. I suspect the version you have
(1.2) works OK, but it has a rather serious bug in Domain Name Service.
This makes Mosaic and other neato Internet programs crash.

When System 7.5 for Macintosh comes out it will have the latest version of
MacTCP built into the operating system (finally!). Until then, any Apple
authorized reseller can order TCP/IP Connection from the Apple price list
for you. The list price is only US$25 or so.

Note that this defies the popular myth you can't really get MacTCP from
Apple resellers. In fact, a 20 user pack is only around US$125 and you get
SNMP agents to boot!

A popular way to get a recent copy of MacTCP in the U.S. is to buy the
book The Internet Starter Kit by Adam Engst. It's got a Macintosh disk
with Mosaic and other Internet tools that require MacTCP.

Vern

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Aug 07 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail
From: ajb@seqnet.dl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: PRIMER: melting points
Date: 8 Aug 1994 12:08:37 +0100
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Does anyone have a citation for the basis of the melting point calculation
used in the PRIMER program?

Thanks in Advance

Alan Bleasby
daresbury


From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Aug 07 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!msuinfo!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!helios!ingrid
From: ingrid@helios.anu.edu.au (Ingrid Jakobsen)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Blast alignments (was: multiple alignment resource needed)
Date: 8 Aug 1994 01:07:31 GMT
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In article <dh30-030894145441@bc1.bc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de>, dh30@pop.th-darmstadt.de (Bernhard Seehaus) writes:
....
|> I often wonder why you can«t specify a(some) certain acession number(s)
|> instead of whole databases when performing e.g. a blast search at NCBI. The
|> problem is I can«t see some interesting alignments due to sequences
|> occuring only in the score list but not as aligned sequences. 
|> 
|> Any help is highly appreciated, thanks in advance
|> 
|> Bernhard Seehaus
|> Institut of biochemistry
|> University of Darmstadt
|> Germany
|> e-mail dh30@pop.th-darmstadt.de

I can deal with that one, you change the setting for the number of 
alignments to display. But when I have over 700 matches, and I'm 
not interested in the first 500 alignments (because they are so
obvious I can do them by hand), then I wish, like Bernhard, that
I could see the alignments for only a subset of the matches.
Perferably the matches near the end.

Cheers,
Ingrid

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Aug 07 23:00:00 1994
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From: diachun@arris.com (Justin Diachun)
Subject: Re: MacTCP Tool version
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In article <vern-0608941115200001@mac114.biodata.com> vern@BioData.COM (Vernon Keenan) writes:
>In article <31o5luINNgd3@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de>,
>jiang@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Weiping Jiang) wrote:
>
>> Hi, there!
>> 
>> Is the version(MacX 1.2) of the communication tool(MacTCP Tool) for Macintosh
>> current? Is MacTCP Tool(MacX 1.2) a free software? Where can I get it?
>
>The current version of MacTCP is 2.0.4. I suspect the version you have
>(1.2) works OK, but it has a rather serious bug in Domain Name Service.
>This makes Mosaic and other neato Internet programs crash.

I found that our version of MacX came with MacTCP 2.00, but there is
an update program available for ftp from ftp.austin.apple.com that
will upgrade 2.00 or 2.02 up to 2.04.  The URL to download it is:

ftp://ftp.austin.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/Net.and.Comm.SW/MacTCP.2.0.4.Update/MacTCP.2.0.4.sea.Hqx


-- 
Justin Diachun
diachun@arris.com
System Administrator
Arris Pharmaceutical

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Aug 07 23:00:00 1994
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From: plc@med.unc.edu (Philip L. Carl)
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Subject: Logit software
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Phil Carl


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From: Bo Servenius <Bo.Servenius@wblab.lu.se>
Subject: Kabat database via www???
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Do anyone know if the Kabat database is awailable via www?

yours

BOSSE

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From: ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar)
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NCBI Entrez version 2.011 is now available for Linux.  This is an 
unsupported release.  The Linux port was kindly developed by Jonathan 
Epstein (epstein@gold.nlm.nih.gov).

System requirements:
Linux (kernel version 1.0.x and above)
XFree86 installed correctly

This release has statically compiled Motif libraries, so you need not
purchase Motif in order to run Entrez.

The files can be ftped from:

mirage.bioc.cwru.edu as /pub/linux.tar.Z

and

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov along with other Entrez distributions.

Later,
Ashok


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From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: learn@smaug.ucr.edu (Jerry Learn)
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Subject: Re: NetEntrez crashing Sun X!
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In article 34058@hulaw1.harvard.edu, robison@lipid.harvard.edu (Keith Robison) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem.  Sometimes
>when I attempt to start NetEntrez on my Sun (1+), it crashes out
>the window server (olwm).  The problem seems to have some correlation
>with what I choose for foreground & background colors, and perhaps
>with whether I've run other software first (Mosaic using up
>my color map?).  I've also had some other X software do this,
>and a colleague just had it happen on their machine with Entrez.
>
>Has anyone else encountered a similar problem?  I apologize for
>the sketchy details, but I haven't had the patience yet to try
>to exhaustively investigate this.

Keith,

I've had similar problems, but they are nearly so intermittent as to defy 
description.  About a year ago when I switched from olwm to olvwm (OPEN LOOK 
virtual window manager), it very consistently crashed the window manager.  If 
I used olwm it would work.  I contacted Jonathan Gold at NCBI and he provided 
some sort of fixed version of the Sun Nentrez binary.  I seem to remember 
display crashes similar to yours since then, but as I said they were 
intermittent.  My recollection is that they might have been related to color 
allocation.  The only other X software that I have seen behave this way was 
when I recently tried running BoB (the Blast output Browser, also from NCBI). 
The program crashed due to a configuration problem (mine, not theirs) and 
brought down olvwm with it.  Once I fixed my configuration problem, it 
worked fine.  

If there is a bottom line to this discussion, it might be to contact the folks 
at NCBI.  They might have a better line on such intermittent problems, since 
they are dealing with so many users.  I have always found them very helpful. 


---
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: vern@BioData.COM (Vernon Keenan)
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In article <323p0t$pca@steele.ohsu.edu>, rootd@ohsu.edu (Darrell Root) wrote:
> if you get the Internet starter kit, I'll bet it has
> an old version of macMosaic, and that you might want to pick up
> a more recent one (anonymous ftp from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu).
> 
> Darrell Root
> rootd@ohsu.edu

Quite right, Darrell. In fact, Adam Engst maintains an FTP site at
ftp://ftp.tidbits.com/pub/tisk as a repository of updates to the software
distributed on the book disk, including a MacTCP 2.0.2 to 2.0.4 updater.

I'd only advise users to upgrade to NCSA Mosaic 2.0a6 for Macintosh if
they really need access to the NCBI genomic browsers ;-) Alpha software
can be a problem more most users. NCSA Mosaic v1.0.3 is OK (minus the
forms capability) and is extremely reliable for 90% of everyone's browing
needs.

Vern

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: robison@lipid.harvard.edu (Keith Robison)
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I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem.  Sometimes
when I attempt to start NetEntrez on my Sun (1+), it crashes out
the window server (olwm).  The problem seems to have some correlation
with what I choose for foreground & background colors, and perhaps
with whether I've run other software first (Mosaic using up
my color map?).  I've also had some other X software do this,
and a colleague just had it happen on their machine with Entrez.

Has anyone else encountered a similar problem?  I apologize for
the sketchy details, but I haven't had the patience yet to try
to exhaustively investigate this.

Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

robison@mito.harvard.edu 



From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: gluc@ellis.uchicago.edu (Anton Gluck)
Subject: prediction of migration in 2D gels
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Hello,

   We are interested in predicting the (relative) migration of a protein 
in a two-dimensional gel from the protein's primary structure. Does 
anybody have or know of a program which can do that? The program would 
have to take into account the particular conditions used during first and 
second dimension electrophoresis, and the result would probably be 
migration in relation to one or more other proteins. 

   Any information or comments will be appreciated.
   
Joe Olvera and Anton Glueck
laboratory of Prof. I. G. Wool
e-mail: jolvera@midway.uchicago.edu
        gluc@midway.uchicago.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: pazgsb@vaxa.nott.ac.uk (Mad Tommy)
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Subject: Molscript
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Dear All,

Does anyone know where I can get a PC executable version
of this programme, or any other programme for a PC that
will draw protein cartoons and plot them to disk. please note
that I am asking for a PC DOS based programme, not one that
requires windows or X-windows to run.

Thanks,

Geoff Briggs, Pharmaceutical Sciences, University of Nottingham.

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Subject: Re: Kabat database via www???
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Bo Servenius (Bo.Servenius@wblab.lu.se) wrote:
: Do anyone know if the Kabat database is awailable via www?

: yours

: BOSSE
It is available, but where ... ;-)
Links may be in
http://info.er.usgs.gov/network/science/biology/index.html
or
http://golgi.harvard.edu/biopages.list
At these sides only the original databases are stored.

Stefan.

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From: plc@med.unc.edu (Philip L. Carl)
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I'm sorrry that this posting earlier got truncated.  What I would like to
find is a PC based program for carrying out Logit transformations.  I
assume this might be part of a more extensive package of statistical
routines, but an inexpensive stand alone program would be fine too.  Also
any information about the use of this plot and/or pitfalls would be
appreciated.  

Phil Carl

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From: hansen@inherit2.dna.ucla.edu (Susan Hansen)
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If anyone is interested in our software to screen and remove vectors
from ABI files, please send email to rmvec@inherit2.dna.ucla.edu or
to help@inherit2.dna.ucla.edu.  It uses the FastA algorithm to find
matches.  

If you're interested, but you want to know more about what
it does before you decide if you want it, you can ftp documentation
from inherit2.dna.ucla.edu:pub/CATALOG.  There are FrameMaker and
postscript copies available.

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: gene@apldbio.com (Gene Shpaer)
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Subject: NBRF -> CODATA -- PIR file format conversion
Keywords: PIR, NBRF, CODATA
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Hi:

The PIR database exists in two distinctly different formats:

CODATA 
and
NBRF.

Since new releases come in both of these two formats simultaneously. there should be a utility which converts one into another.  Can you please point where can I get the program to convert pir1, pir2 and pir3 from the NBRF to CODATA format?

I know and use READSEQ program, but this excellent tool is not designed for the BIG files and does not parse the Annotations.

Thank you for your help.

Eugene Shpaer
  




From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: learn@smaug.ucr.edu (Jerry Learn)
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In article mob@galaxy.ucr.edu, learn@smaug.ucr.edu (Jerry Learn) writes:

(lotta stuff deleted)

>I used olwm it would work.  I contacted Jonathan Gold at NCBI and he provided 
                                                  ^^^^---should read Epstein,
                                                         Sorry, Jonathan.


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University of California         | (909) 787-4673      | FAX: (909) 787-4437  
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Chris Jones (Chris.Jones@nottingham.ac.uk) wrote:
: We use the Hitachi DNA analysis software package DNASIS and I always have 
: trouble importing DNA files I pull off using Gopher. When I asked Hitachi
: they 
: told me that I should be able to do it if I download in "flat tape format". 
: Does anyone know what this is and how I ensure that I down load my files 
: using 
: it? I should saw that I use Hgopher and usually go in via the Oxford Mol Biol 
: gopher.

	They mean "flat file" format.  That is the format that GenBank 
"entries" are stored on magnetic tapes.  It is the most common form
for GenBank entries over the past 10 years or so.  
	"Flat file" means that the information is stored as a string
of text.  Other file formats can include complex "links" to indices and
so on, so they are more like a database than a list of entries.
	You might be "pulling off" the entries in GenBank flat file
format now.  Your problem may have something to do with your downloading
procedure.  Are you sure the files are being downloaded onto you computer
as ASCII text files, and no "mail headers" or anything are added to them? 
What error message does DNASIS gove you?
	Call DNASIS back and get better info.  You paid for their
software didn't you?

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: vern@BioData.COM (Vernon Keenan)
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Subject: Re: SOFTWARE RIP-OFFS!
Date: 10 Aug 1994 07:22:21 GMT
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In article <3197dv$5b2@news.doit.wisc.edu>, lehn@islet.medsch.wisc.edu wrote:

>    Although many people here are speaking in support of the software
> companies I won't.  For the most part the DNA analysis software
> suppliers are greedy self serving S.O.B.s.
> 
>    [inspired prose goes here]

>    I find it truly amazing that these software companies freely
> use algorithims developed with taxpayer money yet are so 
> arrogent in their ways.
> 
> Don

Don, you right that the companies making money in bioinformatics are
essentially reaping the harvest of many years of dedicated effort and
millions of dollars spent on collaborative research in the biology
community. A falicy in your perspective on the issue is the fact you
haven't realized that bioinformatics is now a global commercial enterprise
helping to deliver therapeutic products that improves the lives of
millions of people.

The bioinformatics databases now controlled by the United States
government have nearly infinite commercial value, on the order of a
hundred billion dollars. This fact is not ignored by businesses in
pharmaceutical circles. Witness the success of GeneWorks and MacVector,
the deal between SmithKline Beecham and Human Genome Sciences and over
$200M spent on companies like Incyte, Darwin, Sequana and Millenium as
evidence.

This brings up a legal problem in U.S. commerce. If the bioinformatics
systems controlled by the U.S. Government have vast commercial value, does
the U.S. Government have the legal right to own these resources? By law,
the U.S. government cannot compete with commercial enterprise. I'm sure
that everyone would agree that no one can complete with the Entrez CD-ROMs
for genetic data distribution. Does the existance of Entrez create an
unfair barrier to a commercial product that delivers the same service? I
think it does.

What I'm suggesting is that the wonderful data collection activity set up
by the Human Genome Project and NCBI may eventually be found to be
anticompetitive to a multibillion dollar commercial bioscience industry
and will be taken away from the U.S. government and privatized.

Moving into 21st centry medicine is not as simple as taking the databases
away from the government, however. What about biodiversity, the concept
that no one person or nation may own the very substance of life? Doesn't
U.S. government and international bodies have at least have an oversight
role in the governance of genomic data and organic samples? Of course they
do!

The very concept of privatization of NCBI may make some people sick, but
it may be an inevitable consequence of U.S. law and the commercialization
of biology. Somehow we need to reconcile the reality of commercial
biotechnology with the needs of humanity and the planet. I don't have the
answers, but I've got plenty of questions!

Vern

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From: ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar)
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Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 02:16:27 GMT
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In article <328brg$mob@galaxy.ucr.edu> learn@smaug.ucr.edu (Jerry Learn) writes:

> I contacted Jonathan Gold at NCBI and he provided 

Shouldn't that be Jonathan Epstein (epstein@gold.nlm.nih.gov) .... :-)
Actually contacting Jonathan is an excellent idea.  He is very helpful,
and a very nice person.

Later,
Ashok
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: duret@evoserv.univ-lyon1.fr (Laurent Duret)
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Subject: where to get ATLAS user manual?
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Does anyone know where I can find the user manual of ATLAS, the sequence
retrieval software provided with PIR database?

Please reply by e-mail.

Thank you for your help.

Laurent Duret


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From: Rob.Wiltshire@plant.utas.edu.au (Rob Wiltshire)
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Hi, I need some help finding some interactive software (hopefully on a Mac
platform) to provide first year undergraduates with some tutorial
assistance.  If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear from you. 
Cheers.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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	I am searching for a mac or IBM program which simulates the  
relationship between the earth's orbit and it's climate.  The program should  
preferably be interactive, thus allowing the student to experiment and discover  
for herself why summertime is hotter than winter.  The variables include the  
tilt of the earth, the shape of the orbit (when it reaches perihilion), and  
also the albedo (reflectivity).  This program will be used in conjunction with  
a course at Princeton University for undergraduates.  If you know of anything  
along these lines please e-mail me at
Anders@Phoenix.princeton.edu
Thank you very much for you forthcoming assistance.
-Anders Mikkelsen

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: meir@zoology.washington.edu (Eli Meir)
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There is a book of software reviews done by Carol Ann Paul and Graham
Kent (Wellesley and Smith colleges respectively) which includes a list
of perhaps 100 CD's in the back.  I don't know about availability or
pricing of this publication, but you can write to them at Department of
Biological Sciences, Smith College, Northampton, Massachesetts 01063,
USA.  The project is called NECUSE.
   If you have Mosaic, you should also check out the CTI Centre for
Biology in the UK, which has a large listing of biological software
(somewhat dated, however).

Eli Meir
Dept of Zoology, Univ of Washington
meir@zoology.washington.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: afrinl@honc.mhs.musc.edu (Danny Newton)
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Since I've been receiving so many e-mail queries on the subject, I 
figured I'd just post the following info for everybody to see.

The direct URL for BLAST DNA sequence searching is:

   http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Recipon/bs_seq.html

However, for first-time users, I recommend linking into this page 
indirectly via NLM's HyperDoc page, available at URL:

   http://www.nlm.nih.gov

There's a link on this page to NCBI (National Center for Biotechnology 
Information), and the links from there on to the actual sequence 
searching page ought to be obvious.  This route will allow you to browse 
through a lot of other great resources available from NLM and NCBI, so 
you might find some other interesting things out along the way to the 
BLAST page.

Have fun!

-- LBA

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: lwetzler@acs.bu.edu (Lee M. Wetzler)
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Subject: plasmid software for the pc
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Any recommendations for plasmid drawing software for the PC, especially for 
windows.

Lee

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: ez257@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Henry A. Gabb)
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Subject: Looking for nucleic acid structure analysis programs.
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I'm looking for a program that examines a series of structure
files (from a molecular dynamics trajectory, for example) and
reports information about hydrogen bonding and base stacking in
nucleic acids.  Before I write my own from scratch, I wanted to
know if there are programs like this already available in the
research community.

I already know about Curves since I work in the lab where it was
written.  It's too slow for the number of structures that I have
and gives more information than I currently need.  After I get
the rudimentary structural info I will perform a Curves analysis
on the important structures.

Thanks,
-- 
Henry Gabb (henry@ibpc.fr)
13 rue Pierre et Marie Curie
Paris 75005
France

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From: badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger)
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john@myhost.subdomain.domain (John Gillespie) writes:


>Does GDE need to be recompiled with newer libraries.  Does anyone else
>have problems under a recent slackware release?  Is GDE under current
>development?  Speak to me!

Probably yes -- If you are referrring to to the version on megasun, I
compiled that last summer so it probably is using lots of old
libraries. I haven't been using GDE lately because I lost it during a
hard drive crash, but I (or someone else) could try compiling a new
version. I think the current version is 2.2


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I am using GDE 2.1 under linux 1.0.9 (from the slackware 2.0
distribution).  It does some things well, like opening files and
editing, but crashes when it runs external functions like clustalv or
those in phylip.  When running clustalv, for example, the x server
just hangs, requiring a reboot.  Sometimes it semi-hangs and I can see
that clustalv is grabbing 90% of the cpu on an alignment task that
takes seconds when given the sequences independent of gde.

Does GDE need to be recompiled with newer libraries.  Does anyone else
have problems under a recent slackware release?  Is GDE under current
development?  Speak to me!

john


From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: lhunter@actrix.gen.nz (Lindsay Hunter)
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Does anyone have a comment on Essence of Biology Software by James L Gould.
I seek the PC version. Delivery is slow in New Zealand.
Email reply and I will summarise.




Lindsay Hunter
lhunter@actrix.gen.nz

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ajb@seqnet.dl.ac.uk wrote:
: Does anyone have a citation for the basis of the melting point calculation
: used in the PRIMER program?

- supposed you are talking about the Whitehead Institute Primer program ... -
A guy in our lab (working often with PCR and using Primer, even having
ported it to the PC) says it is using the same formula as appears in 
Maniatis' Molecular Cloning - including corrections for oligonucleotides.

The Q&A document, however, says it is _not_ using GC/AT ratios but thermo-
dynamic data ...

We will check this out, but we are running PRIMER 0.5, so YMMV :-)

: Thanks in Advance

: Alan Bleasby
: daresbury


By the way:
A recent description of good combinations of thermodynamic parameters
was recently published in

Nucleic Acids Research, 1994, Vol. 22 No. 14 pp 2760-2768
G. Steger :
Thermal denaturation of double-stranded nucleic acids:
prediction of temperatures critical for gradiemt gel electrophoresis
and polymerase chain r