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From: mangalam@uci.edu (Harry Mangalam)
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Subject: Re: Looking for Mac version of RNA fold program
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 10:37:11 -0800
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In article <38sdvf$aem@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>, lpss@unixg.ubc.ca (Alex Chang) wrote:

> HI, there: I am looking for the mac version of RNA fold program or 
> equivalent. Any information will be appreciated.

You can check out a very much under-construction page about RNA folding at:

http://hornet.mmg.uci.edu/~hjm/projects/biocomp/biocomp.html

However, for any serious work, since you're posting from a unix machine,
try the unix programs mentioned in that URL - RNA folding is a big memory
problem and Unix machines tend to have more than Macs.
Cheers
Harry

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From: brianf@med.uvm.edu (Brian Foley)
Subject: Re: Software for comparing sequence homology from GenBank server?
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Jason L. Buberel (jbuberel@uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Could someone please let me know if there is a simple (straighforward) way
: to ask GenBank (or a similar service) to compare sequence homology for me
: if I give it the names of several related genes (or same gene between
: different species).  We are trying to find conserved areas among the
: cytochrome enzyme genes.  We have played with the GenBank web site, but
: have not figured out how to do this.  Others have assured me that it is
: possible.

	1) Retrieve one of the cytochrome gene sequences from GenBank
	   by sending the ACCESSION number to "retrieve@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov"

	   If you are not familiar with the RETRIEVE server, send a
	   message with just "help" in the text first.  The  server
	   will then send you detailed instructions.

	   If you do not know an ACCESSION number for a cytochrome 
	   gene, use MEDLINE or another resource to look for a 
           publication of a cytochrome sequence.

	2) Send that cytochrome sequence to "blast@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov"
           in the proper BLAST format.  If you are not familiar with
	   the BLAST server, send a "help" message first to get
	   detailed instructions.

	3) The BLAST output will list the entries in the database that
	   are the most similar to the one you queried with.  Along with
	   pairwise alignments.  It does not produce a multiple sequence
           alignment.

	4) RETRIEVE the sequences you are interested in.

	5) Use a multiple sequence alignment program to do the
           multiple sequence alignment.  There are so many programs
           available for multiple sequence alignment that I can't
	   describe them all here.

----------Clipped from an earlier post by Keith Robison-------------------
There is a short description of some of the issues in sequence searching
available via the WWW at

                http://twod.med.harvard.edu/seqanal/

You should certainly read the extremely good review by Altschul et al in
Nature Genetics (6:119-129).  If you can find the recent book
"Biocomputing" (D.Smith, ed) it has an excellent article on the
subject by Steven Henikoff (the WWW reference above contains the
full citations to these and many other good readings).

As some other posters have noted, you should search multiple ways.
Both DNA and protein databases have their drawbacks.  Searching for
matches at the protein level is more sensitive than at the DNA level,
but many genes are not in the protein databases (see Nature Genetics 
7:205-215 or the Rudd et al article in the current issue of TIBS),
so you cannot rely on searches against protein databases (BLASTP, BLASTX,
etc).  

Also, one must be careful in that both the protein and DNA databases
contain various sorts of contaminants (vector sequence, foreign sequence,
repetitive elements, etc) and other anomalies (rearrangements, 
mis-translations, annotation errors, etc)


Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

robison@mito.harvard.edu 
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From: vonrhein@bio5.chemie.uni-freiburg.de (Clemens Vonrhein)
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In article <seow-021194002953@port53.annex4.net.ubc.ca>, seow@unixg.ubc.ca (Kah-Tong, Seow) writes:
|> Does anyone know if there is any WWW site to access program for either 3D
|> homology modelling program or program which allow a search of PDB database
|> for 3D homology to a query 3D protein. Thanks in advance.
|> 
|> Kah-Tong, Seow
|> West East Centre
|> Univ of British Columbia
|> Vancouver
|> seow@unixg.ubc.ca
There is something like swiss-model at http://expasy.hcuge.csh.

Clemens
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
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From: mangalam@uci.edu (Harry Mangalam)
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Subject: Re: DNA motifs (does a searchable database exist)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 10:31:21 -0800
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In article <m_cockerill-2710942044070001@timpwrmac.clh.icnet.uk>,
m_cockerill@icrf.icnet.uk (Matthew Cockerill) wrote:

> I'm wondering whether there is any analogue of PROSITE which catalogs DNA
> motifs (e.g. transcription factor binding sites, promoter consensus 
> sequences, 3'UTR mRNA masking signals, things like that, which occur in
> non coding regions of DNA).
> 
> Seem it would be very useful.
> Consensus sequences for thousands of these type of motifs are present in
> the literature. Has anyone assembled them in searchable form?

Hi Matt,
   Well, there's Ghosh' Transcription Factor Database
(ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/repository/TFD) which contains much of what you're
looking for, and you could agrep (approximate grep, with regular
expresssion search) thru  it for hits or make up a perl script to do more
in one pass.

Cheers
harry

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From: psummer@post.its.mcw.edu (Phyllis M. Summerfelt)
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I have been trying to figure out how to manage the .gel files (files made by
Molecular Dynamics Phosphorimager of DNA sequences, etc.) on my hard drive.
These files take up an inordinate amount of space and are not readily
compacted by zip (they are already very compact). Any suggestions as to
software that may compress these files?

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
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In article <abranfor.24.03B43540@immuno.imvs.sa.gov.au>, 
abranfor@immuno.imvs.sa.gov.au (Ann Branford) says:
>
>Does anyone know of a PC based grant management package - preferably 
windows 
>based?  We wish to keep track of how much money is in a research grant 
and 
>what we have spent our money on.
>
Grant Accountant is a DOS based grant management package. If you email us 
your address we can send you details plus a demo disk.

Geraint Jones
Bilaney Consultanst Ltd
ae76@cityscape.co.uk

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: EndNote 2.0 Price?
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Now a days, it is getting expensive to keep software fresh,
since the up-grade costs too much, in some case.

Today, I have received the up-grade information for EndNote Plus 2.0
(Mac) from my version 1.3. The Japanese "authorized" dealer
bill us $200 (20,000 yen)!

I am thinking that I have better to buy the up-grade or even new one from
other country. Since I do not want to consume time for getting more money.

Could you please let me know the up-grade price in US or else where.

Thank you
              _____________________________________________
             | Akira Kihara <akihara@fujimi.hosei.ac.jp>       
             |      Laboratory of Biology, Hosei University     
             |      Fujimi 2-17, Chioyoda, Tokyo 102, JAPAN
             |
             |      FAX 81-3-3264-9368, Phone 81-3-3264-9390


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Steven Zikopoulos (szikopou@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
: In <reuber-0211940341090001@129.64.50.66> reuber@hydra.rose.brandeis.edu (Kent Reuber) writes:


: chem-edit is a _freeware_ program available for the mac via ftp.  it
: was written some time ago (1989) so i don't think it supports colour if
: you need it.  i find it quite good and easy to use.  it will even
: create 3-d models from your 2d image.

Is there a Windows version or related package ftpable anywhere?

Dave Bradley
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frilande@cc.Helsinki.FI (Mikko Frilander) writes:

>>I have had a similar problem-- trying strands gives me a GPF. Trying ribbons 
>>caused the display window to go black, but it didn't crash. I could go back 
>>and switch to other modes without problem. I am using the windows compiled 
>>version, on a 486-33. How about anybody else?

>A similar problem also in here. Neither strands nor ribbons work. I'm
>using windows version on a 486-50. 
==========
 
Roger Sayles has already posted about the fix for Raswin 2.5, I've tried 
the new version, it seems to work fine (but I haven't put it through 
it's paces yet).
 
I'd suggest trying to FTP during the "night" for the UK, file transfer
rates were exceedingly low this morning (USA morning = UK afternoon).
 
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Peter Myler <mylerpj@u.washington.edu> writes:

>On 26 Oct 1994, GUOJUN BU wrote:

>> Does anybody know a good reference management program that runs on Window and 
>> allows you to randomly pick references while writing a paper? Please give me
>> phone and/or the Fax number of the source if you happen to know. Thank you in 
>> advance!
>> 
>> 

>Reference Manager 6.0 does this very well.  You can get it from:

>Research Information Systems

>(619) 438-5526
>(619) 438-5573 (FAX)
>risinfo@ris.risinc.com (e-mail)

You can also try my reference management program, Refs, which is
shareware.  See my announcement, also in this newsgroup.  You can get
a screenshot, and the program itself, from the WWW:

http://cyclin.zoo.cam.ac.uk/

or by anonymous ftp, also from cyclin.zoo.cam.ac.uk

Please e-mail me with any questions you have.

Regards,

Tim.
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In article <393pc9$gel@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>,
Craig Behnke <cbehnke@ksu.ksu.edu> wrote:
>In article <38tr47$or4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (larson eric) writes:
>> 
>>We tried it yesterday and couldn't get either ribbons or stands to function
>>without the system GPFing on two different computers (a Pentium running
>>Windows and a 486/66 using OS/2).
>
>I have had a similar problem-- trying strands gives me a GPF. Trying ribbons 
>caused the display window to go black, but it didn't crash. I could go back 
>and switch to other modes without problem. I am using the windows compiled 
>version, on a 486-33. How about anybody else?

A similar problem also in here. Neither strands nor ribbons work. I'm
using windows version on a 486-50. 

Mikko Frilander, 
University of Helsinki, Dept. of genetic

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From: seow@unixg.ubc.ca (Kah-Tong, Seow)
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Does anyone know if there is any WWW site to access program for either 3D
homology modelling program or program which allow a search of PDB database
for 3D homology to a query 3D protein. Thanks in advance.

Kah-Tong, Seow
West East Centre
Univ of British Columbia
Vancouver
seow@unixg.ubc.ca

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From: seb@i102pc1.vu-wien.ac.at (Sebastian W. Bunka)
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Kolbing Frank (kolbing@fmi.ch) wrote:
: I am searching for programs able to reveal antigenic sites in a given
: protein sequence.
I know of two programs that include this:
#
Name=predict.exe  [ 2Nov93, 82kb]
Path=9/EMBnet BioInformation Resource EMBL/Software/dos/predict
Host=felix.embl-heidelberg.de
#
Name=sqaid381.exe  [ 2Nov93, 208kb]
Path=9/EMBnet BioInformation Resource EMBL/Software/dos/sqaid381
Host=felix.embl-heidelberg.de
#
Both are PD/Shareware and are using the antigenicity calculation
proc. of Welling et.al 1985. Predict shows a nice graph on this,
but lacks output other than plotter.
Seqaid does a lot on nucleic acid analysis, as well as protein analysis.
The output is ascii graphics, but also raw data. These can be easily
imported in gnuplot or ACE/gr (or other) for high quality graphics
output.
Hope this helps, Sebastian
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larson eric (elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: MOTULSKY@ix.netcom.com (Harvey Motulsky) writes:

: >Try calling GraphPad Software and asking about their new Windows program,
: >GraphPad Prism. 800-388-4723
: =====
:  
: Has anyone tried the WIndows version of Axum?  
:  
: I bought the DOS version and used it for a couple of years but abandoned it
: because it was slow and klunky.  I'm also not sure $164 is worth it to find
: out they've just transferred their clunky DOS software (which had some very
: unique attributes) to Windows.

: -- 
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: USDA/Agronomy                | 190 PABL; 1201 W. Gregory; Urbana, IL 61801
: elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu     | Voice 217.244.3079  Fax 217.244.4419
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--
Get Graphpad PRISM. Anything else is just a waste of time..

	Darrin Smith
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	Department of Physiology
	University of Western Australia


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We are looking for a on-line database where we can search binding motifs of 
transcription factors for our promoter sequence.  Can anyone suggest such a 
server to which we can send our sequence?

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
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From: RasMol Molecular Graphics <rasmol@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software,bionet.announce
Subject: RasWin problems displaying ribbons
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My sincerest apologies to all those people experiencing problems 
with the latest release of RasMol under Microsoft Windows. Any
attempt to display all (or part) of a molecule as either a solid
ribbon or parallel strands results in `undefined' behaviour such
as the program crashing. This problem only effects the Microsoft
Windows and OS/2 versions of RasMol. The Microsoft Windows NT,
UNIX, VMS and Macintosh versions are not effected by this problem.

This problem has now been corrected and a new version of "raswin.zip"
may be obtained by anonymous FTP from ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk in the directory 
/pub/rasmol. For those users not wishing to download the source,
example files, online-help or documentation again, the file "raswin.exe"
is also available in this directory.

My many thanks to the users that pointed this error out to me.
I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Roger
--
Roger Sayle                        INTERNET: ras32425@ggr.co.uk
Glaxo Research Inc (GRI)                     rasmol@ggr.co.uk
Venture Centre, Emperor Boulevard  Tel:  (+1) (919) 941 4023 (direct line)
RTP, North Carolina, USA.          Fax:  (+1) (919) 941 3704

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
Newsgroups: bionet.software,sci.edu,sci.chem
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From: szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos)
Subject: Re: Want shareware "ChemDraw-like" program for Mac
Message-ID: <szikopou.783739838@superior>
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In <reuber-0211940341090001@129.64.50.66> reuber@hydra.rose.brandeis.edu (Kent Reuber) writes:


chem-edit is a _freeware_ program available for the mac via ftp.  it
was written some time ago (1989) so i don't think it supports colour if
you need it.  i find it quite good and easy to use.  it will even
create 3-d models from your 2d image.


>I have a request from a professor in the BioChem department for a
>shareware 2D ChemDraw like program for the Mac. Basically, he wants to be
>able to draw the rings, bonds, etc. and paste it into a word processor.

>It seems like you could do a fair amount of this in a full function
>drawing program such as Canvas, but I'd like to see if there are
>alternative programs in the Shareware world first.

>Please respond by mail.
>-- 
>Kent Reuber
>Computational Specialist
>Brandeis University Biology Dept.
>reuber@hydra.rose.brandeis.edu
-- 
Steven Zikopoulos <szikopou@ccs.carleton.ca>

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
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From: gilbertd@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Looking for Mac version of RNA fold program
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This is a port of Michael Zuker's MFOLD (from about 1990 or 1991)

Name=mulfold.hqx  [14May91, 285kb]
Path=0/IUBio-Software+Data/molbio/mac/mulfold
Host=ftp.bio.indiana.edu
Port=70
URL: gopher://ftp.bio.indiana.edu/40/IUBio-Software%2bData/molbio/mac/mulfold


This is a program for viewing output of MulFold

Name=loopviewer.hqx  [14May91, 153kb]
Path=0/IUBio-Software+Data/molbio/mac/loopviewer
Host=ftp.bio.indiana.edu
Port=70
URL: gopher://ftp.bio.indiana.edu/40/IUBio-Software%2bData/molbio/mac/loopviewer
-- 
-- d.gilbert--biocomputing--indiana u--bloomington--gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
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From: brianf@med.uvm.edu (Brian Foley)
Subject: Re: DNA seq intron/exon boundary search program for Mac ?
Message-ID: <1994Nov2.205709.322@emba.uvm.edu>
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Peter Hinely (phinely@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) wrote:
: In article <37mik9$hi4@guru.med.cornell.edu> jsmith@med.cornell.edu (jsmith) writes:
: >We're looking for a Mac program that will allow us to identify
: >intron/exon boundaries in genomic DNA sequences. Does anyone have any
: >good suggestions of shareware or commercial packages that will do this

	I doubt any commercial or shareware programs use algorithms as
powerful, well-documented and thoroughly tested as those in use by:

      The Baylor College Of Medicine Computational Biology Group
                             Houston, TX
                      re-announces a new service
                         The BCM Genefinder.

***************************************************************************
*********** NOTE ADDRESSES AND FORMATS HAVE CHANGED!! *********************
***************************************************************************

The services are FGENEH, FEXH, HEXON, HSPL, SSP, and NNSSP.

This message details FGENEH; subsequent messages will detail FEXH,
HEXON, HSPL, SSP, and NNSSP.

NOTE: This service is temporarily being provided through the
University of Houston Gene-Server.  Only two jobs will be run at a
time.

        FGENEH - Prediction of gene structure in Human DNA sequences
                        (Version 2.  10.5.94)
        Department of Cell Biology, Baylor College of Medicine
=========================================================================
Analysis of uncharacterized human sequences is available through
the University of Houston Gene-Server by sending the file containing a
sequence (a sequence name is in the first string) to
        service@bchs.uh.edu

with the subject line "fgeneh". 

Example: mail -s fgeneh service@bchs.uh.edu < test.seq

where test.seq a file with the sequence.
 
Method description:
**********************
   Algorithm firstly predicts all possible potential internal exons, 
   and potential 5' and 3'-exon for each internal by linear discriminant
   functions combining characteristics describing various contextual
   features of these exons. Then by method of dynamic programming it 
   searches for optimal combination of these exons and construct gene model.
   
Accuracy:
************
   The accuracy have been estimated for the set of 193 complete 
   human gene entries extracted from GenBank.
                
  The accuracy of precise  exon recognition is 81% with a 
  specificity of 79%. The recognition quality computed at the  
  level of individual nucleotides is 90% for exons sequences (Sp=93%).

  For exon prediction in partially sequenced genes you can use "fexh" 
  (5'-, internal and 3'-exon prediction) and "hexon" (internal exon
  prediction) programs from the Gene_Server. 

Submitting sequences via email:
*******************************

  For email submission the sequences must have the following format:  

Name of your  sequence
ccatctctgtcttgcaggacaatgccgtcttctgtctcgtggggcatcctcctgctggca
ggcctgtgctgcctggtccctgtctccctggctgaggatccccagggagatgctgcccag
aagacagatacatcccaccatgatcaggatcacccaaccttcaacaagatcacccccaac
ctggctgagttcgccttcagcctataccgccagctggcacaccagtccaacagcaccaat
atcttcttctccccagtgagcatcg...............

(Restrict the line length to 80 characters or less).



   You have to send the file containing the sequence to: 
   service@bchs.uh.edu
   Subject line must be:
   fgeneh

   Example: mail -s fgeneh service@bchs.uh.edu < test.seq

Fgeneh output:          
****************
   1st line - name of your sequence
   2nd line - length of your sequence
   3d line - number of potential exons
   4th line and next - positions of predicted exons 
   For example:
   HUMALPHA     4556 bp ds-DNA             PRI       15-SEP-1 
   length of sequence -   4556
   number of potential exon:  10
   380 -    516 
   611 -    727
   839 -    954 
  1147 -   1321
  1819 -   1953 
  2053 -   2125
  2254 -   2388
  2470 -   2661 
  2881 -   2997
  3120 -   3562 

Reference:

  1. Solovyev V.V.,Salamov A.A., Lawrence C.B.
   Predicting internal exons by oligonucleotide composition and 
   discriminant analysis of spliceable open reading frames. 
   (Nucl.Acids Res.,1994, in press).
  2. Solovyev V.V., Salamov A.A. , Lawrence C.B.
   The prediction of human exons by oligonucleotide composition and 
   discriminant analysis of spliceable open reading frames.
   in: The Second International conference on Intelligent systems
   for Molecular Biology (eds. Altman R., Brutlag D.,
   Karp R., Latrop R. and Searls D.), AAAI Press, Menlo Park, CA 
   (1994, in press) 
  3. Solovyev,V., Lawrence,C.B.
    Prediction of human gene structure using dynamic programming 
    and oligonucleotide composition. In: Abstracts of the 4th annual
    Keck symposium. Pittsburgh, 47,1993. 

Problems, comments, and suggestions:
   can be mailed to solovyev@cmb.bcm.tmc.edu.




--
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*  Brian Foley               *     If we knew what we were doing   *
*  Molecular Genetics Dept.  *     it wouldn't be called research  *
*  University of Vermont     *                                     *
********************************************************************

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!rutgers!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.infi.net!larry!tmeade
From: tmeade@larry.wyvern.com (Tony Meade)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Medical Software
Date: 2 Nov 94 22:59:25 GMT
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Summary: Practice Management Made Easy


Modern Technology sure has changed things when it comes to
equipment and procedures for doctors.  In the past, office
managers, billing and insurance clerks have had to schedule and
reschedule appointments by hand, hoping they don't somehow overlap. 
All insurance claims had to be filed by hand and even with some
typed on a typewriter.  Accounts receivables were done manually,
hoping that errors were not made.  

But now with a computer, modem, and a practice management software
package that works like a health care practice works, following the
same simple steps as a manual accounting system only easier and
less time consuming, doctors can save valuable time and money. 

If you would like more information on how your office can operate
more effectively, please send an e-mail to tmeade@infi.net or call
(804) 471-5385.  

-- 
Tony Meade     tmeade@infi.net
Medical Services 2001
Phone: (804)-471-5385  Fax: (804)-471-5663


From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
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From: szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos)
Subject: Re: Want shareware "ChemDraw-like" program for Mac
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In <397mps$3g0@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> dbradley@freenet1.scri.fsu.edu (David Bradley) writes:

>Steven Zikopoulos (szikopou@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
>: In <reuber-0211940341090001@129.64.50.66> reuber@hydra.rose.brandeis.edu (Kent Reuber) writes:


>: chem-edit is a _freeware_ program available for the mac via ftp.  it
>: was written some time ago (1989) so i don't think it supports colour if
>: you need it.  i find it quite good and easy to use.  it will even
>: create 3-d models from your 2d image.

>Is there a Windows version or related package ftpable anywhere?


not sure. i'm not running on a windows platform.  i would guess there
is but finding it is another matter.

-- 
Steven Zikopoulos <szikopou@ccs.carleton.ca>

From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!rutgers!gatech!udel!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!uunet!heifetz.msen.com!emory!usenet
From: bcresas@bimcore.emory.edu (Scott Sammons)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.gcg,bionet.software,bionet.molbio.embldatabank
Subject: E. coli Database Collection -->  GCG format
Date: 2 Nov 1994 20:28:59 GMT
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Xref: biosci bionet.software.gcg:801 bionet.software:9889 bionet.molbio.embldatabank:384

Greetings:

Has anyone successfully reformatted the ECD data into GCG formatted databases.
The program embltogcg core dumps when I try it with one of the ECD .dat
files.

Scott Sammons
=======================================================================
| Scott A. Sammons                                    (404) 727-2780  |
| Emory University                               FAX: (404) 727-3659  |
| Biomolecular Computing Resource                                     |
| 3025 Rollins Research Center       Email: sammons@bimcore.emory.edu |
| Atlanta, GA 30322                                                   |
=======================================================================



From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Nov 01 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!pipex!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!tjrc1
From: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Tim Cutts)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: ANNOUNCE:  Refs 7.5 reference management software
Date: 2 Nov 1994 10:25:22 GMT
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Keywords: Windows, shareware, MedLine, ISI, Chemical Abstracts
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV)

Are you tired of waiting for EndNote for Windows to appear?  Do you
want to get your references sorted out with the minimum of hassle, and
expense?

Do you want a flexible, easy-to-use Windows program?

Do you want to be able to import your on-line literature searches
straight into your reference database, from formats such as MedLine,
Current Contents, Chemical Abstracts and ISI?

Do you want to be able to compile bibliographies from multiple source
databases?

Do you want full control over how your references are sorted, and
rapid searching?

If you want any of these features, they are all found in the current
version of Refs.


INTRODUCTION
============

Refs is a small Windows program (it will take up about 200k of your
hard disk), designed to be as flexible and extensible as possible.

It maintains databases in the standard Unix refer format, which means
that its files can be used with a whole host of other reference
management programs, including EndNote for the Macintosh and WinRefer.

It comes with modules for reading Medline, ISI, Chemical Abstracts and
Current Contents file formats, and is supplied with programming
information for writing your own filters.

The older version, 7.42, is also available from the same site as this
one, and comes with a module for operation in German, which 7.5 does
not yet have.

It has a simple Multiple Document Interface, so you can load and
search multiple databases simultaneously, and drag and drop references
from one database to another.

It allows you to format bibliographies in a style you choose, and
this can then be printed out, saved to disk or copied to the
clipboard for pasting into other programs.


HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST?
========================

A single user licence for Refs is 30 pounds sterling.  There are
discounts for purchases of four or more licences.  More details and an
order form can be found in the help file.


WHERE DO I GET REFS?
====================

Refs 7.5 is available on both the World Wide Web, and for anonymous
FTP:

WWW:
http://cyclin.zoo.cam.ac.uk/

FTP:
cyclin.zoo.cam.ac.uk


Refs 7.42 is also available from this site, and can also be found on
CICA mirror, under the win3/utils directory.


CONTACTING THE AUTHOR
=====================

If you have any queries, please send them to me:

tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk

Best regards,

Tim Cutts.

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: tisdall@amalthea.humgen.upenn.edu (James Tisdall)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: DNA Workbench for X-windows
Date: 3 Nov 1994 16:24:29 GMT
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In article <39arfu$dol@inet.up.ac.za> fourie@ccnet.up.ac.za writes:
>
>Hi
>
>I saw in TIBS that a X-windows version for DNA Workbench is 
>available...
>Does anyone know where I can find this?
>
>Thanks!
>
>---
>Fourie Joubert
>Department of Biochemistry
>University of Pretoria
>fourie@ccnet.up.ac.za
>http://sungtiger.ee.up.ac.za/biodocs
>+27-12-420-2011
>

Hi.  I'm the author.

Actually, I think the article stated that the xwindows version was in
development - I'm not sure, I don't have a copy here.

I've got a mostly-working xwindows version.  It requires that you have
the tcl/tk "wish" program available.  Also, not everything works, but
most things do.  I can send it to you if you send me email requesting
it.

I'm planning on releasing a version of DNA WorkBench that
includes xwindows support for the Unix users.  It will be based on
the new version 5 of the "perl" language, that includes a "Tk extension".

Now, perl version 5 has just been officially released.  The Tk extension
is still in alpha testing.  (Which means it still has a way to go before
its official release.)  Finally, I've just begun porting DNA WorkBench from
its perl4-wish version to the new perl5-tk version.  So it will be some
weeks before I announce it here.

There are plans afoot to make Tk work on macs and on IBM pc's with windows -
that will probably take awhile to be accomplished, but is one reason I'm
using the language(s) that I'm using.  (Also, perl and tk are free and have
large and growing followings.)  I have used perl 5 w/Tk for another
application - a fingerprint data visual editor - and perl w/Tk is
not too bad for software writing even in its "alpha" development stage.

In related news, things look very promising for VMS and IBMpc users
with internet hookups to use DNA WorkBench.  The new version 5 of perl
has prompted a flurry of porting work.  I'll make announcements here
when these become available for DNA WorkBench.

Finally, I'm swapping coasts soon - from Philadelphia to San Francisco.
My current email is tisdall@gradient.cis.upenn.edu  - soon it will be
tisdall@mercator.com   Either one should work for some time.

Jim

======================================================================
James Tisdall
Departments of Genetics and Computer and Information Science
Computational Biology and Informatics Laboratory, Human Genome Project
University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

tisdall@cbil.humgen.upenn.edu 215-573-3113 fax 215-573-3111
======================================================================

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!daresbury!bioftp.unibas.ch!citi2.fr!jussieu.fr!cea.fr!usenet
From: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr (Pierre Didierjean)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: *** Q: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON THE NET ?
Date: 3 Nov 1994 16:17:34 GMT
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I'd like to know what kind of people i find on the net.

Students, Commercials, Adminitrations, Scientifics or what ??

Is anybody knows that or have statistical results ?


What are YOU doing in life ?

I am a system administrator.


Thanks for the answers and sorry for my english .....



Bye


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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: u02dg@nof.abdn.ac.uk (u02dg)
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Subject: Re: Want shareware "ChemDraw-like" program for Mac
Date: 3 Nov 1994 15:29:52 GMT
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David Bradley (dbradley@freenet1.scri.fsu.edu) wrote:

: : chem-edit is a _freeware_ program available for the mac via ftp.  it
: : was written some time ago (1989) so i don't think it supports colour if
: : you need it.  i find it quite good and easy to use.  it will even
: : create 3-d models from your 2d image.

: Is there a Windows version or related package ftpable anywhere?

I think there's one available called hyperchem (there's a copy of it in our
department) but I'm not sure if it's shareware or not.

How about one for X-windows? Preferably which will dump out PostScript format
images for inclusion to other documents (e.g. FrameMaker/LaTeX).

	Dave.

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From: vam2@midway.uchicago.edu (Viraj Master)
Subject: Re: Software for comparing sequence homology from GenBank server?
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In article <1994Nov2.220357.1622@emba.uvm.edu>, brianf@med.uvm.edu (Brian
Foley) wrote:


>         If you have a WWW browser, you should find out more about 
> ENTREZ.  The ENTREZ service is now available on the web:
> 
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Search/Entrez/index.html
> 
> 
>         You have to register your machine (IP address) to get full
> function from Netwrok-ENTREZ or WWW-ENTREZ, but once you do, you
> will have a world of info at your fingertips.

Hi Brian

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but *how* does one go about registering one's
machine to get full function from Entrez?

Thanks

Viraj

-- 
Viraj Master
Dept. of Organismal Biology and Anatomy
University of Chicago

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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Path: biosci!lhc!gold!epstein
From: epstein@gold.nlm.nih.gov (Jonathan Epstein)
Subject: Re: Software for comparing sequence homology from GenBank server?
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Brian Foley (brianf@med.uvm.edu) wrote:
> Jason L. Buberel (jbuberel@uiuc.edu) wrote:
> : Could someone please let me know if there is a simple (straighforward) way
> : to ask GenBank (or a similar service) to compare sequence homology for me
> : if I give it the names of several related genes (or same gene between
> : different species).  We are trying to find conserved areas among the
> : cytochrome enzyme genes.  We have played with the GenBank web site,

> 	If you have a WWW browser, you should find out more about 
> ENTREZ.  The ENTREZ service is now available on the web:

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Search/Entrez/index.html


> 	You have to register your machine (IP address) to get full
> function from Netwrok-ENTREZ or WWW-ENTREZ, but once you do, you
> will have a world of info at your fingertips.


Thanks for pointing out this information, Brian.  I want to clarify,
though, that registration is _not_ required to use WWW-Entrez, although
it is required for Network Entrez.  Information regarding both of these
services, as well as the Entrez CD-ROM is available by following the
"Entrez Browser" hypertext link from the above WWW page.

Information about Network Entrez is also available by viewing the file
ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/network/README or by writing to
net-info@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.


> 	ENTREZ has not only gene and protein sequences, but also a 
> large subset of medline (articles pertaining to genes and proteins
> are there, clinical trials and such are not).  
> 	ENTREZ also has a VERY POWERFUL "neighboring" function.
> NCBI has already compared every sequence to every other one, so if
> you select a gene, protein or medline abstract and click the
> "neighbors" button, ENTREZ will show you the other genes, proteins
> or abstracts that are most similar to the one you selected.

> --
> ********************************************************************
> *  Brian Foley               *     If we knew what we were doing   *
> *  Molecular Genetics Dept.  *     it wouldn't be called research  *
> *  University of Vermont     *                                     *
> ********************************************************************

- Jonathan


Jonathan Epstein                                epstein@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
National Center for Biotechnology Information   Phone: (301)496-2475
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: root@biochem.up.ac.za (Fourie Joubert)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: DNA Workbench for X-windows
Date: 3 Nov 1994 14:18:38 GMT
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Hi

I saw in TIBS that a X-windows version for DNA Workbench is 
available...
Does anyone know where I can find this?

Thanks!

---
Fourie Joubert
Department of Biochemistry
University of Pretoria
fourie@ccnet.up.ac.za
http://sungtiger.ee.up.ac.za/biodocs
+27-12-420-2011


From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: cbb@convex.phazc.uni-heidelberg.de (Christopher Blencowe)
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Subject: Re: 3D homology modelling on WWW?
Date: 3 Nov 1994 13:51:30 GMT
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Clemens Vonrhein (vonrhein@bio5.chemie.uni-freiburg.de) wrote:
: In article <seow-021194002953@port53.annex4.net.ubc.ca>, seow@unixg.ubc.ca (Kah-Tong, Seow) writes:
: |> Does anyone know if there is any WWW site to access program for either 3D
: |> homology modelling program or program which allow a search of PDB database
: |> for 3D homology to a query 3D protein. Thanks in advance.
: |> 
: |> Kah-Tong, Seow
: |> West East Centre
: |> Univ of British Columbia
: |> Vancouver
: |> seow@unixg.ubc.ca
: There is something like swiss-model at http://expasy.hcuge.csh.

Maybe some people tried also, thsi should be http://expasy.hcuge.ch

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: martin@bsm.bioc.ucl.ac.uk (Andrew Martin)
Subject: Re: Antibody 3D Modeling
Message-ID: <1994Nov3.113245.29976@ucl.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:32:45 GMT
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Hiroyoshi Ohba (ohba@YL05HP.TB.NODA.SUT.AC.JP) wrote:

: HELLO Netters;

:         Is there any software which assembles three-dimesional structure of
: antibody Fab?   Now, I am not familier with structural biology but like to
: analyse the effect of molecular modification of antibody.  I have tried AbM
: of Oxford Molecular Ltd which has been developed by Prof. Tony Rees's Lab.
: It works on the stand-alone Silicon Graphics and HP workstations. In my
: case on assembling human Fab from its amino-acid sequence, enormous time
: (days) was required for caliculation.  Would you suggest quicker softwares
: on faster machines, or software employing other argorisms?  All of your
: comments are welcomed.
Hi Hiroyoshi,

I'm the original author of the academic version of the AbM package while I
was working in Tony's lab. in Oxford before he moved to Bath. Andrew Henry's
comments are all pretty valid; you can make a crude model quickly, but you
have to make a trade-off between time and quality of the model. With longer
loops once will always have problems, whatever method is employed; the
structural database is not really saturated for loops longer than about
7 amino acids while conformational search methods take *really* long times
for longer loops (a full conf. search of a 17 residue loop would take
around 250000 years on something like an Indy!!!) AbM therefore makes
a tradeoff of using the database to build most of the loop, but reconstructing
a small section (by default the middle of the loop, but you can choose)
which yo think is most likely to be involved in antigen interactions or
surrounding a mutation site.

I really don't think there is a better way of doing things at present,
but I'm working on it!!

Andrew


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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: jddecker@umich.edu (Jim Decker)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Soliciting comments on Sequence Analysis Software
Date: 3 Nov 1994 14:52:04 GMT
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I am soliciting comments on sequence analysis software that is personal
computer based.  We are currently using GCG on the vax and find it
quite cumbersome and overall difficult to use.  I have sent away for a
thirty day trial of the Intelligenetics PC/Gene.  I can use either a
MAC or Dos-Windows format.
Thanks for your help.

James D. Decker
University of Michigan

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: pmr@staffa.sanger.ac.uk (Peter Rice)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.gcg,bionet.software,bionet.molbio.embldatabank
Subject: Re: E. coli Database Collection -->  GCG format
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In article <398sqb$79b@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> bcresas@bimcore.emory.edu (Scott Sammons) writes:
>   Has anyone successfully reformatted the ECD data into GCG formatted databases.
>   The program embltogcg core dumps when I try it with one of the ECD .dat
>   files.

As I am involved in both ECD and EGCG, I will try to put something into EGCG 8.0
when it is ready. I take it you are referring to the very latest (new format)
ECD here. Do you mean the genorf.dat file or the contigs/*.dna files (which are
closer to EMBL format and have more sequence data)?

Beware though - E.coli sequencing is now going so well that ECD has a contig (and
more to follow) over the 350k mark, which will give some problems with GCG.

Another option would be to use a script (or Perl) to reformat into enough of an
"EMBL" format for EMBLtoGCG to accept it.


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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: mhollowa@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Holloway)
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.software
Subject: Importance of computer communications in research?
Date: 2 Nov 1994 21:49:21 -0700
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Your input would be greatly appreciated.  I'd like to conduct an 
informal survey of the bionet community to gauge the extent to which
end users have access to the net and graphical interfaces for net 
tools.  I hope to use the response as evidence that greater emphasis 
needs to be placed on end user access at my institution, which is not 
BTW the University of Denver.  I have to telnet here in order to use a
half way decent newsreader.  My institution's concern over security 
necessitates using an old miniVax as a fire wall and allowing the use
of only VMS text based software.  Those who can afford it are allowed 
to shell out $10,000 for an X-terminal for use with the Vax.  A VMS 
proxy server, whose performance with various kinds of client/servers is
unknown to us, is mentioned as a solution for some indeterminant time in 
the future.  

Does your institution give you the opportunity to directly access your 
gateway, with or without a proxy server, and thereby make use of communications 
software that you can run from your own machine, Mosaic for instance?
Do you currently have to log into a remote system?

Do you feel text based tools under VMS are sufficient for making full
use of computer communications for molecular biology?  Do you find 
newsgroup access, conferring with your collegues remotely, to be useful?
Do you think that a VMS newsreader should be as good as anything else?

How important do you think a graphical interface is for using the tools 
available now and in the future?  Does the convenience have an impact on
how you use computer communications?

If the topic is of general interest I'll summarize and post any responses
I receive via e-mail.

Thanks,
Mike Holloway
mike.holloway@stjude.org

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: rcdana@crash.cts.com (Richard Dana)
Subject: Database wanted  plants/pictures
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 02:39:23 GMT
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I am trying to put together a database of information on plants and 
pictures of each plant.

What should I do?

Richard Dana

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: samols@biochemistry.cwru.edu (David Samols)
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Subject: Transcription cis-element database?
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 03:49:02 GMT
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We are looking for a on-line data base to search possible cis-elements in our 
promoter sequence.  Where can we send our sequence to?

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!auxin.hip.berkeley.edu!user
From: tjyeh@soda.CSUA.berkeley.edu (Raymond Yeh)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: More of DNA Sequence programs
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 19:01:06 -0800
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Does anyone out there use DNA sequece programs like GeneWorks, MacDnasis,
MacVector, GeneJockeyII, etc.?  I would really like people's opinions on
these programs, as my lab is looking into buying one of these programs. 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Raymond Yeh
tjyeh@soda.csua.berkeley.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: arne@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu (Arne Elofsson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: 3D homology modelling on WWW?
Date: 3 Nov 1994 01:24:21 GMT
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Some of my favourites:
Gopher server at Stanford
gopher://genome-gopher.stanford.edu/11/topic/structural

and of course:
The NIH Molecular Modeling Home Page

http://www.nih.gov/molecular_modeling/mmhome.html

arne
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: brianf@med.uvm.edu (Brian Foley)
Subject: Re: Software for comparing sequence homology from GenBank server?
Message-ID: <1994Nov2.220357.1622@emba.uvm.edu>
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Jason L. Buberel (jbuberel@uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Could someone please let me know if there is a simple (straighforward) way
: to ask GenBank (or a similar service) to compare sequence homology for me
: if I give it the names of several related genes (or same gene between
: different species).  We are trying to find conserved areas among the
: cytochrome enzyme genes.  We have played with the GenBank web site,

	If you have a WWW browser, you should find out more about 
ENTREZ.  The ENTREZ service is now available on the web:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Search/Entrez/index.html


	You have to register your machine (IP address) to get full
function from Netwrok-ENTREZ or WWW-ENTREZ, but once you do, you
will have a world of info at your fingertips.

	ENTREZ has not only gene and protein sequences, but also a 
large subset of medline (articles pertaining to genes and proteins
are there, clinical trials and such are not).  
	ENTREZ also has a VERY POWERFUL "neighboring" function.
NCBI has already compared every sequence to every other one, so if
you select a gene, protein or medline abstract and click the
"neighbors" button, ENTREZ will show you the other genes, proteins
or abstracts that are most similar to the one you selected.

--
********************************************************************
*  Brian Foley               *     If we knew what we were doing   *
*  Molecular Genetics Dept.  *     it wouldn't be called research  *
*  University of Vermont     *                                     *
********************************************************************

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: Referance Manager and Word 6.0
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I'm thinking of buying Referance Manager 6.0 for DOS, but I need to know how
well it works with Word for Windows 6.0. I don't want to save the document as
a Word 2.0 file, because I lose some of my formatting.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: rafael@cse.ucsc.edu (David Konerding)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.gcg,bionet.software,bionet.molbio.embldatabank
Subject: Re: E. coli Database Collection -->  GCG format
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Peter Rice (pmr@staffa.sanger.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <398sqb$79b@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> bcresas@bimcore.emory.edu (Scott Sammons) writes:
: >   Has anyone successfully reformatted the ECD data into GCG formatted databases.
: >   The program embltogcg core dumps when I try it with one of the ECD .dat
: >   files.

: As I am involved in both ECD and EGCG, I will try to put something into EGCG 8.0
: when it is ready. I take it you are referring to the very latest (new format)
: ECD here. Do you mean the genorf.dat file or the contigs/*.dna files (which are
: closer to EMBL format and have more sequence data)?

: Beware though - E.coli sequencing is now going so well that ECD has a contig (and
: more to follow) over the 350k mark, which will give some problems with GCG.

: Another option would be to use a script (or Perl) to reformat into enough of an
: "EMBL" format for EMBLtoGCG to accept it.

Hmm.  Can anybody give me a pointer to where I can find the ECD?  I am writing
a thesis which regards computational methods for finding genes in prokaryotic
DNA, and any database more complete than EcoSeq6 would be great.

Thanks.


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From: mike@bison.lif.icnet.uk (Mike Mitchell)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: *** Q: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON THE NET ?
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 20:15:53 +0100
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In article <39b2eu$9ql@anemone.saclay.cea.fr>, cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr
(Pierre Didierjean) wrote:

> I'd like to know what kind of people i find on the net.
> 
> Students, Commercials, Adminitrations, Scientifics or what ??
> 
> Is anybody knows that or have statistical results ?
> 
> 
> What are YOU doing in life ?
> 
> I am a system administrator.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the answers and sorry for my english .....
> 
> 
> 
> Bye
> 
> 
>
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The sort of people who post a stupid message to every newsgroup available!

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: mangalam@uci.edu (Harry Mangalam)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: transcription element database
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 13:16:24 -0800
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In article <samols.43.2EB71D64@biochemistry.cwru.edu>,
samols@biochemistry.cwru.edu (David Samols) wrote:

> We are looking for a on-line database where we can search binding motifs of 
> transcription factors for our promoter sequence.  Can anyone suggest such a 
> server to which we can send our sequence?

It's not an online system, per se, but you can grab the Transcription
factor database from ncbi (see related posting, same newsgroup) and
compare your sequence with it using Dan Prestridge's SignalScan (versions
for PC and Unix, the latter better supported, I believe).

   You can get in touch with him at:

Dan S. Prestridge, Ph.D.                        E-mail: DANP@MOLBIO.UMN.EDU
Director                                        Telephone: (612) 625-3744
Molecular Biology Computing Center (MBCC)       Fax: (612) 625-5780
Department of Biochemistry
University of Minnesota
1479 Gortner Ave.
St. Paul,  MN  55108


Cheers
harry
If you're desperate, you can email me you sequence, tell me what organism
db you'd like it searched against and I'll email you the output.

-- 
  Harry J Mangalam, Microbiology and Molecular Genetics, 
    College of Medicine, UC Irvine, Irvine, CA, 92717, 
         (714) 856-4824, fax (714) 856 8598,
 --- That which does not kill me, makes me grouchier ---
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Computational Biology..SGI..Woodworking..Bicycling..Linux..WWW 

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: epstein@gold.nlm.nih.gov (Jonathan Epstein)
Subject: Re: Software for comparing sequence homology from GenBank server?
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Viraj Master (vam2@midway.uchicago.edu) wrote:

> Sorry if this is a FAQ, but *how* does one go about registering one's
> machine to get full function from Entrez?

> Thanks

> Viraj

> -- 
> Viraj Master
> Dept. of Organismal Biology and Anatomy
> University of Chicago

An invitation follows below.  Your site may already be registered, so
you (or anyone else) can try to download the software and see whether
it works.  If it works, you're registered, otherwise you'll see a
message asking you to write to net-info@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.

Please do read the referenced README file below before contacting NCBI ...
thanks.

- Jonathan

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National Center for Biotechnology Information   Phone: (301)496-2475
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                                                Bethesda, MD 20894



-------------------------- begin invitation -------------------------------
You are invited to register to use "Network Entrez", a networked version of the
Entrez molecular sequence retrieval system which has formerly been available
only by subscription as a CD-ROM based package.  For those of you who may be
unaware, Entrez is an application program for browsing an interlinked set of
several databases:  a molecular sequence subset of MEDLINE; all of GenBank,
EMBL, DDBJ, PIR, SWISS-PROT, PDB; and more.  Entrez is now available in a
network client-server arrangement, with the databases residing at the NCBI and
accessible by users at distant locations over the worldwide Internet.

Network Entrez client programs are currently available for the following
computer platforms:

  o Macintosh (MacTCP)
  o MS Windows (WinSock 1.1 compatible)
  o Sun SparcStations (SunOS and Solaris)
  o SGI IRIX
  o DEC Alpha running OSF/1
  o DEC Ultrix
  o DEC VMS (Multinet/TGV, Wollongong, and UCX)

Network Entrez software may be obtained via anonymous ftp from ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
(130.14.25.1) in the /entrez/network directory.  There is a README file
in the same directory, which should be read before attempting installation and
use.  Registration (see below) must be performed before the software will
operate correctly, and direct Internet access is an absolute requirement to
using Network Entrez on any computer (e.g., mere e-mail access through services
such as BITNET is insufficient).  On the plus side, no CD-ROM equipment nor
significant local hard disk storage is required to install or use Network
Entrez; more data is accessible through the network service than off the Entrez
CD-ROMs; database updates do not incur the delays associated with CD-ROM
production and distribution; and there are presently no subscription fees to
using the network service.

Administrators:  if any users in your organization are interested in
using Network Entrez, please send the following information to:
net-info@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.

  o your name, affiliation, electronic and postal mail addresses, and telephone
  number

  o a list of the dotted-decimal IP (Internet Protocol) addresses of whatever
  computers Network Entrez will be installed upon at your site.  For
  convenience, if all computers in a particular subnet may need access to the
  program, the entire subnet may be indicated using the notation x.y.z.* (e.g.,
  130.14.20.*).

Installation of Network Entrez client software may be performed at your
convenience.  Bug reports, questions, and comments about the program should be
sent to the same net-info@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov address.  Occasionally
administrators can expect to receive e-mail directing them to download an
updated version of Network Entrez.  We apologize in advance that administrators
at participating institutions may receive update notices for platforms other
than those actually in use at their site, however we do expect this to occur
infrequently.

-------------------------- end invitation -------------------------------

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: Edgar Wingender <ewi@venus.gbf-braunschweig.d400.de>
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Subject: Re: transcription element database
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In article <1994Nov3.102010.6681@reks.uia.ac.be> (Przemko) <S=przemko;OU=reks;OU=uia;O=ac;P=be>
wrote:

|In article <samols.43.2EB71D64@biochemistry.cwru.edu> samols@biochemistry.cwru.
|edu (David Samols) writes:
|>We are looking for a on-line database where we can search binding motifs of
|>transcription factors for our promoter sequence.  Can anyone suggest such a
|>server to which we can send our sequence?
|
|Hi!
|We would be also very interested. Indeed, a kind of PROSITE but
|for transcription factors would be great. Something that would
|look at my DNA sequence and propose some binding site for
|transcriptional factors...

I recently announced our database TRANSFAC which also includes a set
of consensus sites in its SITES table, mainly based upon the 
Faisst & Meyer compilation in NAR 20, 3-26 (1992). The consensus
sites can be identified through their ID (<factor name>$cons) or
by the word "consensus" in the description field (DE).
Try the ftp site ftp.gbf-braunschweig.de (IP 193.175.244.2).

Hope this helps.

Edgar Wingender.

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: hartwell@inet.uni-c.dk (Michael Hartwell)
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Subject: MR scan animation
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 0:49:42 GMT
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Is anyone intersted in a FLI animation containing 120 frames of magnetic 
resonance brain scan (healthy patient)? I'll upload it for anyone interested.

Rgds. Mike Hartwell Nielsen

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: jackl@sci.kun.nl (Jack Leunissen)
Subject: Re: E. coli Database Collection --> GCG format
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In <398sqb$79b@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> bcresas@bimcore.emory.edu (Scott Sammons) writes:

>Has anyone successfully reformatted the ECD data into GCG formatted databases.
>The program embltogcg core dumps when I try it with one of the ECD .dat
>files.

You might try my program "embl2nbrf", which reformats EMBL-formatted data
into NBRF (=PIR) format. GCG handles this, provided you change the format
identifier in the .header file from GCG into NBRF.

You can find the program at "ftp.caos.kun.nl", via anonymous FTP, in the
directory "pub/molbio/embl2nbrf".

Best regards,

Jack Leunissen
CAOS/CAMM Center

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: Jon Visick <visick@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu>
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Subject: Re: EndNote 2.0 Price?
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Akira Kihara  writes:
>Today, I have received the up-grade information 
>for EndNote Plus 2.0 (Mac) from my version 1.3....

Exciting news...has anyone heard about an upgrade
for DOS?  Or have info. about features?

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: Jon Visick <visick@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu>
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Subject: Molecule-drawing shareware for DOS?
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		I'm looking for a shareware program to draw
biochemical molecules for DOS (*not* 
Windoze!).  Not a 3D modeling program 
(there are lots of these!) but a simple
drawing program which can do the bond
angles, put in N's and O's, etc.  If anyone knows
of something like Chem-Draw, but in shareware,
I'd be grateful.

Jon Visick
visick@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: pmr@staffa.sanger.ac.uk (Peter Rice)
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Subject: Re: E. coli Database Collection -->  GCG format
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In article <39bjs7$t3p@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> rafael@cse.ucsc.edu (David Konerding) writes:
>   Peter Rice (pmr@staffa.sanger.ac.uk) wrote:
>   : In article <398sqb$79b@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> bcresas@bimcore.emory.edu (Scott Sammons) writes:
>   : >   Has anyone successfully reformatted the ECD data into GCG formatted databases.
>   : >   The program embltogcg core dumps when I try it with one of the ECD .dat
>   : >   files.
>
>   : As I am involved in both ECD and EGCG, I will try to put something into EGCG 8.0
>   : when it is ready. I take it you are referring to the very latest (new format)
>   : ECD here. Do you mean the genorf.dat file or the contigs/*.dna files (which are
>   : closer to EMBL format and have more sequence data)?
>
>   Hmm.  Can anybody give me a pointer to where I can find the ECD?  I am writing
>   a thesis which regards computational methods for finding genes in prokaryotic
>   DNA, and any database more complete than EcoSeq6 would be great.

The latest ECD is available from ftp.ebi.ac.uk in directory pub/databases/ecdc
(note the extra c at the end :-)

The new format is described in: Kroeger et al. (1994); Nucleic Acids Research 22:3450-3455.

The contigs directory has the non-redundant contiguous sequences from E.coli K-12.
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: ANNOUNCE-No More Unwanted Recompiles
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ARC++, Version 2.0 Eliminates Unnecessary 
Recompilations -- Increases Productivity Up To 15%
C and C++ Users Now Have Control
Landover, MD -- ARSoftware announced today the release 
of ARC++, Version 2.0, the first C/C++ development tool 
that improves productivity by eliminating the unnecessary 
recompilations that result from header file editing.  This 
single feature gives the user virtual control over one of the 
most time consuming C and C++ requirements, but Version 
2.0 also provides over 30 extensions that further streamline 
program development, including: exportable classes that 
eliminate the need for header files; and intelligent macros 
that provide encapsulated code generation.  ARC++ is easy 
to integrate with existing software development systems and 
dramatically increases productivity while reducing delays 
and frustration.  

ARC++ provides immediate benefits for ongoing 
development projects.  With a few minor adjustments to the 
existing Make or Project files,  ARC++ automatically 
analyzes if a header file change affects previously compiled 
modules and alters the Make process accordingly, giving the 
user virtual control over recompiles.  Eliminating unwanted 
recompiles is especially beneficial when a coding task 
involves complex class libraries.
Exportable classes and packages in ARC++ produce 
cleaner, more readable and easier to maintain code by 
eliminating user-written header files, allowing integrated 
class definitions, and modularizing the development of 
function libraries.  

ARC++'s intelligent macro capability reduces coding time 
by automatically analyzing class definitions; they can loop, 
branch, and access the parse tree/symbol table to generate 
code based on previous declarations.  Defined within C++'s 
block structure, these macros are capable of being inherited 
(unlike C preprocessor macros).  Callback macros in 
multiple base classes ensure that every derived class has the 
appropriate support code generated, making it unnecessary 
to hand code.

Some of the many time-saving extensions include:

Overloaded enumerators - Bound function pointers - Fully 
prototyped Vararg functions - Automatic functions - Arrays 
with bounds - Modify detection - User-defined operators - 
Combination operators - User-defined modifiers - Hidden 
arguments.

"ARC++ provides the technology, features and extensions 
users need to quickly become more productive.  The leaner, 
more workable code eliminates a lot of the frustrating 
delays and breaks in concentration that are so costly and 
time consuming.  In very little time, many of the routine 
tasks performed by senior personnel can be performed by 
others, allowing the more experienced personnel to perform 
on a higher, more efficient level.  ARC++ will also make it 
easier for the novice to learn the C and C++ language," 
stated S.P.S. Anand, President and CEO of ARSoftware.

Pricing 

Introductory pricing for ARC++ is $129 (list $249) for 
DOS and Macintosh, and $199 (list $340) for Unix.  Pricing 
includes 60 days of free technical support and a 60-day 
money back guarantee.

Upgrade pricing for existing users is $29 for DOS and 
Macintosh, and $39 for Unix.

_________________________________________________
| George West - west@arsoftware.arclch.com                                   |
| ARSoftware - www homepage: http://arsoftware.arclch.com        |

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: przemko@reks.uia.ac.be (Przemko)
Subject: Re: transcription element database
Message-ID: <1994Nov3.102010.6681@reks.uia.ac.be>
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In article <samols.43.2EB71D64@biochemistry.cwru.edu> samols@biochemistry.cwru.edu (David Samols) writes:
>We are looking for a on-line database where we can search binding motifs of 
>transcription factors for our promoter sequence.  Can anyone suggest such a 
>server to which we can send our sequence?

Hi!
We would be also very interested. Indeed, a kind of PROSITE but
for transcription factors would be great. Something that would
look at my DNA sequence and propose some binding site for
transcriptional factors...

Please, post answers to the net

Przemko


From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Nov 03 22:00:00 1994
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From: jackman@SPRCORE.BIH.HARVARD.EDU ("robert w. Jackman")
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: transcription sites
Date: 3 Nov 1994 22:43:07 -0800
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Has anyone been able to access the Transfac database (or any other transcription
factor data base) using MacPattern?  If so, could you provide a brief outline of
what you did?

Bob

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Nov 03 22:00:00 1994
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From: micky@berthaw.princeton.edu (Michael West)
Subject: Windows DNA analysis program
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I am looking for a windows program that will do DNA analysis
(restriction mapping, base composition, etc..)  I am using
DNA strider on a MAC right now but I would like something that
runs under windows.  Anyone know of any program like this?

Michael		micky@berthaw.princeton.edu


From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Nov 03 22:00:00 1994
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From: malc@equinox.unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock)
Subject: Unix-based biological software vs. DOS/Windows-based?
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I am seeking recommendations for Unix-based (preferably on an Intel
platform) biological software that will allow us at least in some
degree to migrate away from the purely DOS/Windows and Mac based
software we're mainly using now.

I know about Unix/X-based Entrez and some other packages, but am also
seeking viable Unix-based replacements for PCGENE, OLIGO, and the
COMOS Confocal microscope management package, among others.  Good
public-domain packages are of interest as well as commercial packages.

Having gone through yet another particuarly nightmarish instance of
the perennial DOS/Windows carousel of crashed Windows, viruses,
shortages of DOS memory etc., the severe productivity and support
problems that are inherent in Windows/DOS are making a move to Unix
in this area look even better than it has in the past.

The Unix systems in wide use elsewhere in our campus generally stay
up and running for weeks and months at a time, with their users getting
to do actual work most of the time and not have to deal constantly with
the various silly DOS/Windows instabilities.  Our campus has on-site
Unix sysadmin support, so Unix administration support is not an issue
for us.

We will of course be checking into various products from this end, but
any recommendations, information, cautionary tales etc. along these lines
would be greatly appreciated.  Please email any responses and I will
summarize to the net.

Thanks,

Malcolm
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Nov 03 22:00:00 1994
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In article <39avlg$cq2@nof.abdn.ac.uk>, u02dg <u02dg@nof.abdn.ac.uk> wrote:
>: Is there a Windows version or related package ftpable anywhere?
>
>I think there's one available called hyperchem (there's a copy of it in our
>department) but I'm not sure if it's shareware or not.

Hyperchem is commercial software, published by Hypercube (info@hyper.com).
It is not really comparable to ChemDraw in that it does not do 2-dimensional
structure drawing, only 3-dimensional modeling (but it does modeling VERY 
well).

>How about one for X-windows? Preferably which will dump out PostScript format
>images for inclusion to other documents (e.g. FrameMaker/LaTeX).

Without trying to beat a dead horse, let me just say, "ChemDraw does this."

With all this discussion about a "ChemDraw-like" program, is there some 
problem perceived with the original ChemDraw that everyone is trying to 
find an alternative?  I certainly can't begrudge anyone their personal 
preferences, but if anyone knows of any problems with ChemDraw, then by 
all means TELL us, so that we can fix them.  ChemDraw has grown over the last 
eight years primarily as a result of customer input, and if we are not meeting
your needs as well as we can, please let us know!

Back to the original question, there are demos of CS ChemDraw for SGI and
Sun machines running X-windows (and Macs and Windows machines, too) available
by anonymous ftp from ftp.camsci.com.  They will also shortly be available by
WWW at http://www.camsci.com (most of the domos are already linked into our
Web server).

I hope this information is helpful.

Jonathan Brecher
Cambridge Scientific Computing, Inc.
jsb@camsci.com

Do I really need a disclaimer?

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From: cbrg@inf.ethz.ch (CompBioResGrp)
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.software
Subject: WWW peptide and nucleotide analysis server of CBRG at ETHZ
Date: 4 Nov 1994 14:58:52 +0100
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WWW peptide and nucleotide analysis server of CBRG at ETHZ
----------------------------------------------------------

All computing services accessible by e-mail are now also accessible
from WWW: 

- PepPepSearch   Exhaustive search of SwissProt for a similar protein on a
                 massively parallel machine (MasPar) by complete dynamic
                 programming.
- NuclPepSearch  Exhaustive search of SwissProt for a protein being encoded
                 by a similar nucleotide sequence by complete dynamic
                 programming.
- AllAll         Phylogenetic trees, multiple alignments, surface/interior
                 prediction etc. of a set of proteins.
- MassSearch     Search SwissProt or EMBL by protein fragment masses.
- AllAllDB       Query the all-against-all database of SwissProt.
- Darwin         Access the Darwin Computational Biochemistry Tool
                 directly.                 

Interactive forms and examples make the formatting of queries
easier. Replies are sent back directly or by e-mail. Furthermore, the server
offers more complete documentation on the services and references.
Try URL

  http://cbrg.inf.ethz.ch/

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Dear Gurus,

- I'm just trying to install Gopher (client) on my new Alpha OSF/1 machine.
- I downloaded the last Unix version (gopher2.1alpha) from U. Minnesota
- I modified the files Makefile.config and conf.h as indicated
- I launched make ... and got an error at the link step because of 
  unresolved references: Gtxt, Gcatd, Gtxlocale, Gtxopen
- however, as far as I can see, these routines are in Locale.c

Did anybody experienced the same problem? Maybe a small bug in Makefile?

Thank you,

Jean-Loup


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From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Nov 03 22:00:00 1994
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From: ae76@cityscape.co.uk (ae76)
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Subject: Re: Referance Manager and Word 6.0
Date: 4 Nov 1994 10:40:27 GMT
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>I'm thinking of buying Referance Manager 6.0 for DOS, but I need to know 
>how well it works with Word for Windows 6.0

************************************************************************
You would need RefMan for Windows v 6.0 - it's the only version of Refman 
that is fully compatible with Word 6 and it works fine!

Geraint Jones
Bilaney Consultants Ltd (RIS' European agents)

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From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE-No More Unwanted Recompiles
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west@arsoftware.arclch.com (arsoftwa@clark.net) wrote:
[advertisement deleted]
: Pricing 
[availability info deleted]
: _________________________________________________
: | George West - west@arsoftware.arclch.com                       |
: | ARSoftware - www homepage: http://arsoftware.arclch.com        |

I would prefer announcements like such as a four-liner with less commercial 
background, and some emphasis on biology. Sure it is useful to know what is 
out there but advertisements like this one don't really  fit the Charter of 
this group in my view. 


Regards
Reinhard 
-- 
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Subject: Re: Want shareware "ChemDraw-like" program for Mac
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In article <39buqb$mgc@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, info@camsci.com wrote:
> With all this discussion about a "ChemDraw-like" program, is there some 
> problem perceived with the original ChemDraw that everyone is trying to 
> find an alternative?  I certainly can't begrudge anyone their personal 
> preferences, but if anyone knows of any problems with ChemDraw, then by 
> all means TELL us, so that we can fix them.  ChemDraw has grown over the last 
> eight years primarily as a result of customer input, and if we are not meeting
> your needs as well as we can, please let us know!

Uh, sure, Jonathan.  Price!  I thought that was obvious.  Where you have money
in the budget for it, no problem.  But if you are an educational user, and have
to fork out of your own pocket, it is another matter.

The XRAYMAN

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In <39buqb$mgc@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> brecher@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Jonathan Brecher) writes:
[...]

>problem perceived with the original ChemDraw that everyone is trying to 
>find an alternative?  I certainly can't begrudge anyone their personal 
>preferences, but if anyone knows of any problems with ChemDraw, then by 
>all means TELL us, so that we can fix them.  ChemDraw has grown over the last 
>eight years primarily as a result of customer input, and if we are not meeting
>your needs as well as we can, please let us know!

>Back to the original question, there are demos of CS ChemDraw for SGI and
>Sun machines running X-windows (and Macs and Windows machines, too) available
>by anonymous ftp from ftp.camsci.com.  They will also shortly be available by
>WWW at http://www.camsci.com (most of the domos are already linked into our
>Web server).


the original poster wanted an application that drew 2D molecular
representations on a Mac platform.  i suggested chem-edit (freeware
(1989) by NAB Gray).  


>I hope this information is helpful.

>Jonathan Brecher
>Cambridge Scientific Computing, Inc.
>jsb@camsci.com

>Do I really need a disclaimer?
-- 
Steven Zikopoulos <szikopou@ccs.carleton.ca>

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Subject: Editor for cDNA sequence publication
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 94 15:45:15 CDT
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Hi:
   Can anybody give me some information about the software that can be used to
edit cDNA sequence for publication ? Where is the FTP site ?
 
 
                                              Thanks in advance
 
                                                     rongrong

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From: derijkp@reks.uia.ac.be (Peter.DeRijk)
Subject: Multiple alignment editor for X-Windows tkDCSE 3.3 available
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DCSE v3.3 for X-Windows
-----------------------

I have made a homepage for DCSE on our WWW server
http://www-rrna.uia.ac.be/~peter/dcse/index.html).
You can look there for more info. 

What is DCSE v3 (tkDCSE)
------------------------

DCSE (Dedicated Comparative Sequence Editor) is a multiple alignment
editor. It can be used to edit protein, DNA or RNA alignments. The
structure of the molecules can be incorporated in the alignment. It is
written in C, and it uses dynamic memory for most things. This means
you can almost edit any size of alignment with it. It offers lots of
features such as color display of characters and structure, automatic
alignment relative to sequences already aligned with others, sequence
grouping, sequence or pattern searching, marker system, checking of
incorporated RNA structure, on-line hypertext help, macros, and a lot
more.

This new version of DCSE has an easy to use, yet flexible and programmable
X-windows interface provided by the Tcl/Tk language. A complete on-line
hypertext help system is provided. 

Although DCSE v3 is compatible with version 2 of DCSE, its
implementation is completely different. The core of DCSE is implemented
as an object which can be controlled by giving commands to it from the
Tcl language, an easy to learn, yet flexible, interpreted language. The
interface is written as a Tcl program. This way the program can be
easily customized, and batch jobs are even possible.

This approach has several advantages:
 - the user can adapt the interface of DCSE completely to his own liking.
 - It is easy to create macros or programs wich extend DCSE.
 - external programs can also be controlled in Tcl, and seamlessly integerated.
 - Tcl/Tk exists for a great variety of computers, so porting should be
   simplified.

Convers is a complementary program to DCSE which does things like
converting between different file-formats. The new version has been
written a set of commandline programs, which are controlled by a Tcl/Tk
interface.

What is new in v3.3
-------------------
Here are all (except those I forgot to write down) changes to the
previous version of DCSE. On of the main differences is the use of
shared objects and dynamic loading. This is the reason that this will
not run on Irix 4.0.5; You will need Irix 5.2.

INTERNALS
- extensions to Tcl are handled completely differently:
  - main executable is an adapted wish (tcl/tk) with dynamic loading 
    extension:
         - C-extensions can be dynamically loaded when needed by the 
           extinit command.
	 - desc is also a dynamcially loadable extension.
  - only the environment variable TCL_LIBROOT should be set. All 
    extension libraries and code are found in the directory 
    tkdcse_home/lib (to which TCL_LIBROOT should point).
- updated several extensions:
  - expect 5.9
  - Tix 3.6c
  - incr Tcl 1.5
  - tclX 7.3b
  - blt 1.7
- added some freebee extensions (I don't use them (yet))
  - Wigwam 1.5b
  - moreButtons 1.2
  - table 0.1
- made adding external functions a tiny bit easier
- extraL as a seperate extension library:
  adds list manipulation commands such as lfind, lsub, lcor, lload, 
  lfile, lmanip, lmath.
- added man/mann to help_path:
  You can now eg. type 'help button' in wish to get help on the button 
  widget (after you have typed a 'descinit').

PROGRAM
- added new alignment options:
  - Myers-Miller algorithm (uses much less memory).
  - added '1 to many' alignment
- made the intro screen smaller
- windows are the first time positioned by the user. A file is kept 
  (per user) which stores the last used positions for windows. The last 
  used position will be used the following times.
- selection of sequence lines to be loaded from file is faster.
  and the selection box shows the number of currently selected sequences.
- iconised windows show a nice bitmap
- added the possibility of using a cutoff value when copying o's
- added the noinsert option to the import function (also a change in syntax).
- added constraints to entries, numerical entries also got control buttons
- added load and save options to tkconvers sequence line selection box.

BUG FIXES
- output from protein alignments was not correct
- embref sometimes wrote wrong sequence after using arrow keys
- locked lines were not adapted after remove or create lines
- macros are now loaded at startup
- bug in save secondary fixed
- list of sequences in tkconvers
- forced recalculation of display after create consensus/empty line and 
  after (un)grouping


Getting the package
-------------------
You can get the package by anonymous ftp to www-rrna.uia.ac.be. It is 
under the directory pub/dcse. You can also get the distribution via WWW 
from the DCSE home page on the following URL 
http://www-rrna.uia.ac.be/~peter/dcse/index.html

Installing the package
----------------------
If you already have tkdcse installed you should first remove the old
version.  It might be best though to keep it for a while to see if
everything works ok in the new version. You can do this by going to the
directory you put tkdcse_home in and doing:
mv tkdcse_home oldtkdcse_home
(if you don't care, you can do 'rm -r tkdcse_home' to just remove the older
version.)

Uncompress and untar the distribution in a suitable directory. This will
produce a directory called tkdcse_home. Go into that directory, and start
the program install. Then follow directions.

zcat tkdcse-sgi-3.3.tar.Z | tar xf -
cd tkdcse_home
./install

The install program will give you more info on what to do to install DCSE.

The programs can be started by typing 'tkdcse' or 'tkconvers' in a shell
window.

Bugs
----
If you are having problems with the program contact me. I will
do my best to get it fixed. Please report any bugs you have
found. If possible, state your machine's hardware and software
configurations. Sending me a full description of the
circumstances in which the bug occurs, possibly with the data it
happened on, will help me tracking down a bug. If you have any
suggestions, you can also make them to me.

Citation
--------
A paper has been written about DCSE and this is submitted to and
accepted by CABIOS. If you have used the program to obtain
results in a paper you've written, please cite the following
reference:

Peter De Rijk and Rupert De Wachter
DCSE v2.54, an interactive tool for sequence alignment and
secondary structure research.
Comput. Applic. Biosci.

Reprints of articles in which DCSE is mentioned would be
welcomed.

How to contact me
-----------------
I will do my best to reply as fast as I can to any problems, etc.
However, unfortunately the development of DCSE is not my only task,
which is why my response might not be always as fast as you would
like (although I get a very good average).

Peter De Rijk
University of Antwerp (UIA)
Department of Biochemistry
Universiteitsplein 1
B-2610 Antwerp

tel.: 32-03-820.23.16
fax: 32-03-820.22.48
E-mail: derijkp@reks.uia.ac.be

Legalities
----------
DCSE is Copyright Peter De Rijk, University of Antwerp (UIA), 1993

You may give this application to anyone, via any medium, so long
as it is delivered with ALL the supplied files and UNALTERED, and
it is not supplied on a disc you are charging for (except for
media and postage costs). I maintain copyright on all the
material supplied and reserve the right to amend these conditions
in cases where I deem misuse.

Disclaimer

This application is supplied free to everyone 'as is', I do not
give any guarantee that it is free of bugs, or supply any
warranty about its suitability for use. No liability will be
accepted for any damage to or loss of data as a result of using
this application. However, if there are any problems with it
and you notify me of them, I will probably do my best to rectify
them.


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Derrick C. Mancini <mancini@fysik.uu.se> wrote:
>In article <39buqb$mgc@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, info@camsci.com wrote:
>> With all this discussion about a "ChemDraw-like" program, is there some 
>> problem perceived with the original ChemDraw that everyone is trying to 
>> find an alternative?  I certainly can't begrudge anyone their personal 
>> preferences, but if anyone knows of any problems with ChemDraw, then by 
>> all means TELL us, so that we can fix them.  ChemDraw has grown over the 
>> last eight years primarily as a result of customer input, and if we are 
>> not meeting your needs as well as we can, please let us know!

>Uh, sure, Jonathan.  Price!  I thought that was obvious.  Where you have money
>in the budget for it, no problem.  But if you are an educational user, and 
>have to fork out of your own pocket, it is another matter.

I still don't understand.  Our standard student price for ChemDraw is $49
($79 international).  This really isn't more than many shareware fees.  Our 
non-student educational price for ChemDraw is $149 ($199 international), 
which isn't that much either.

Is this the only problem?

Confused,

Jonathan Brecher
Cambridge Scientific Computing, Inc.
jsb@camsci.com


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From: kulmburg@sun1.ukl.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Kulmburg)
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Subject: HTML-Editors?
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Dear collegues,

I will have to write documents for homepages on www-servers. I am working
on a Mac and I am interested in html-editors. I know that they exist but I
do not know what exactly they do and, more important, I do not know where
to find one on the net.

Could you please help me with some hints? Thank you very much!

Yours           Peter

Peter KULMBURG (193.196.226.110    MacName: ktl110.ukl.uni-freiburg.de)
home: Tel./Fax:+49 761 808439   work: Tel.:+49 761 270/7195   Fax:/7177



From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Nov 03 22:00:00 1994
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From: jddecker@umich.edu (Jim Decker)
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Subject: Sequence Analysis Software
Date: 4 Nov 1994 01:51:52 GMT
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I am soliciting comments on sequence analysis software that can be ran
on a personal computer, either MAC or DOS-Windows.  I am going to
demo-ing PC-Gene from Intelligenetics for 30 days in about a week. 
Please E-mail me at "jddecker@umich.edu" if you have something for me. 
Thank you for your time.

James Decker
University of Michigan Medical Center

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Nov 04 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: DNA analysis software
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I am interested in opinions regarding utility of various DNA sequence
manipulation and analysis programs for both Mac and Windows platforms.  I am
interested in flexibility and value, so please include prices if known. 
Finally, how does one obtain DNA Strider and what is its cost?  Thanks.

-- 
                   Jonathan F Wendel
       Department of Botany, Iowa State University
                    Ames, Iowa 50011
      Email: JFW@IASTATE.EDU  Phone: (515) 294-7172

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I am measuring the redoxpotential in marine sediments (tidalflats) with a
multielectrode system. The result is a datafield of 365 points in a sediment
block of 30*30*30 cm. Dicer is great to find structures in this block.

Ulf Eversberg      Bremerhaven/Germany                  
2:241/200.24    ulfe@columbus.clipper.de    ulfe@fishtwn2.han.de

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Nov 04 22:00:00 1994
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From: tims@uidaho.edu (Tim Steffens)
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In article <9411021234.AA27784@leucine.c.dna.affrc.go.jp>,
akihara@FUJIMI.HOSEI.AC.JP (Akira Kihara) wrote:

> Now a days, it is getting expensive to keep software fresh,
> since the up-grade costs too much, in some case.
> 
> Today, I have received the up-grade information for EndNote Plus 2.0
> (Mac) from my version 1.3. The Japanese "authorized" dealer
> bill us $200 (20,000 yen)!
> 
> I am thinking that I have better to buy the up-grade or even new one from
> other country. Since I do not want to consume time for getting more money.
> 
> Could you please let me know the up-grade price in US or else where.
> 
I paid $99 plus some amount for shipping and handling. This includes
EndLink 2.0 and the new plug-in module for Word 6.0 when it becomes
available. I believe it is worth the upgrade :). You may want to contact
Niles and Assoc. directly, check the manual or AOL.

Good Luck!

-- 
Tim Steffens              |  "What next!?"
  Lab. Matrls. Super.     |
  Dept. MMBB, U. of ID    | e-mail:  tims@uidaho.edu
   (208) 885-8953         |          Sturff@aol.com

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Nov 04 22:00:00 1994
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From: alavizad@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Seyed A Alavizadeh)
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Subject: Help on BLAST searches
Date: 5 Nov 1994 19:18:20 GMT
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im doing a presentation on DNA sequencing and its uses and i was hoping 
to give a description of database searches.  ive used BLAST before in my 
research, but unfortunately i never really understood what was going on.  
id appreciate it if someone out there could provide me with a short 
summary (their own or a reference which contains one or an FTP site) of the 
BLAST algorithm and the numbers that are returned with a search (score, expect, 
etc.) in language that your typical first year mol bio grad student with 
little background in statistics could understand.  ive looked back 
through some of the references, but i found them just as confusing.  id 
really appreciate any response.

john darling
ps. the presentation is on tuesday...

From owner-software@net.bio.net Fri Nov 04 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: shareware for EEG
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I am seeking shareware that will allow me to turn a PC into an
oscilloscope for recording EEG data.  I have a program for the
Mac, but the only digitizer I can scrounge is for the PC...
 
Sondra Bland
sbland@mail.utexas.edu

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Nov 05 22:00:00 1994
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From: robison1@fas.harvard.edu (Keith Robison)
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Subject: Re: Help on BLAST searches
Date: 6 Nov 1994 19:06:54 GMT
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There are a growing number of sequence analysis tutorials on the Web.
Mine is at http://twod.med.harvard.edu/seqanal/  
It is far from perfect, but it does reference the other two I know about
(which are in many ways superior).  It also contains references to other
articles & books of interest.  

In reference to BLAST, the algorithm can crudely be described as:

1) For each sequence of k residues in the query ("k-tuple"), generate
   a list of all the k-tuples which could be the nucleus of a significant
   alignment

2) Search the query for these k-tuples
   In BLAST, this is done using a comp sci contraption called a 
   Deterministic Finite State Automaton (DFA).  In brief, a DFA is
   roughly analogous to a identification key for the set of k-tuples
   (such as the sort of key you might use to identify a living organism).

3) At each matched k-tuple, extend the alignment until further extensions
   do not improve the score

At all stages, BLAST is using a simple table (substitution matrix) to
score the alignment of the query against the database sequence.


Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

krobison@nucleus.harvard.edu 






From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Nov 05 22:00:00 1994
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From: 22473mgr@msu.edu (Uwe Rossbach)
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Subject: Re: HTML-Editors?
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In article <39dmak$s7m@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, kulmburg@sun1.ukl.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Kulmburg) says:
>
>Dear collegues,
>
>I will have to write documents for homepages on www-servers. I am working
>on a Mac and I am interested in html-editors. I know that they exist but I
>do not know what exactly they do and, more important, I do not know where
>to find one on the net.
>
>Could you please help me with some hints? Thank you very much!
>
>Yours           Peter
>
>Peter KULMBURG (193.196.226.110    MacName: ktl110.ukl.uni-freiburg.de)
>home: Tel./Fax:+49 761 808439   work: Tel.:+49 761 270/7195   Fax:/7177
>
>
try the www& html developer's Jump Station at:

oneworld.wa.com/htmldev/devpage/dev-page.html
 
a real nice tool page.

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