From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: ckafer@iastate.edu (Chris Kafer)
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Subject: Re: Blast search help needed.
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 02:26:38 GMT
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mperr1@hamon.swmed.edu (Michael Perry) wrote:


>Chris,
>Sounds like a job for blastx.  Point your browser to the NCBI BLAST
>web page at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/BLAST/ and check out the
>following programs:  

>blastx:  compares a nucleotide query sequence translated in all
>reading frames against a protein sequence database 

>tblastx: compares the six-frame translations of a nucleotide query
>sequence against the six-frame translations of a nucleotide sequence
>database. 

Thanks for the reply but I tried that first.  What it appears to do is
compare the entire sequence (as if it were a single ORF) in all 6
frames.  What I would like to do is have it blast the real ORFs >30
amino acids individually.  When I blast them  manually, it brings back
different hits than a blastx search of the entire sequence.

As an example, when I blast one of the 200 aa ORFs it returns an EST
clone.  When I blast the entire sequence, of which this ORF is just a
part, it doesnt show up.  Hopefully I explained that clearly!

Any other ideas would be appreciated!


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Subject: Re: Blast search help needed.
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> mperr1@hamon.swmed.edu (Michael Perry) wrote:
> 
> 
> >Chris,
> >Sounds like a job for blastx.  Point your browser to the NCBI BLAST
> >web page at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/BLAST/ and check out the
> >following programs:  
> 
> >blastx:  compares a nucleotide query sequence translated in all
> >reading frames against a protein sequence database 
> 
> >tblastx: compares the six-frame translations of a nucleotide query
> >sequence against the six-frame translations of a nucleotide sequence
> >database. 


> From ckafer@iastate.edu Wed Oct  2 00:48:50 1996
 
> Thanks for the reply but I tried that first.  What it appears to do is
> compare the entire sequence (as if it were a single ORF) in all 6
> frames.  What I would like to do is have it blast the real ORFs >30
> amino acids individually.  When I blast them  manually, it brings back
> different hits than a blastx search of the entire sequence.
> 
> As an example, when I blast one of the 200 aa ORFs it returns an EST
> clone.  When I blast the entire sequence, of which this ORF is just a
> part, it doesnt show up.  Hopefully I explained that clearly!
> 
> Any other ideas would be appreciated!


Chris,

If I understand correctly, what you want is "tblastn vs est"?

TBLASTN takes a protein query sequence and compares it to the
translation of the EST in 3 or 6 frames (6 is the default).  
Is that what you want? 

A summary of the various ways of using blast is available 
(blatent self citation to follow) from:

http://www.cshl.org:80/books/g_a/bk1ch7/


cheers,

f.

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| B.F. Francis Ouellette  
| GenBank
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: scott_jokerst@data-transport.com (R. Scott Jokerst)
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Subject: Bioinformatics resource upgrade.
Date: 1 Oct 1996 17:26:29 -0700
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I wanted to alert you (who were not already aware) to a significant upgrade
to the Biological Data Transport bioinformatics resource.  Among other
things, the Query Depot was launched over a month ago.  And it has been
upgraded weekly based on your feedback.

                        http://www.data-transport.com

From this resource, several kinds of bioinformatics related searches can be
executed - to GenBank, the MEDLINE molecular biology subset, OMIM, Entrez,
the BCM Search Launcher, PDB, BLAST, GDB, etc.

Direct searching of several life sciences vendor resources are available as
well, all in one centralized location.

We've simplified the UI to these free public resources significantly - you
may find the Query Depot useful when you want to quickly scan for info at
the start of your search for information on the Internet.

Looking forward to your continued suggestions for additions and changes.
Help us to continue making this resource a high value time saver for you,

Scott

    R. Scott Jokerst (510-648-8229)    scott_jokerst@data-transport.com
       Biological Data Transport       http://www.data-transport.com
 Bringing FOCUS to life sciences informatics, product, & services resources



From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: howardc@GENECODES.COM (Howard Cash)
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Subject: SEQUENCHER FOR UNIX?  WHY?
Date: 2 Oct 1996 16:47:25 -0700
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Don Gilbert posted a query on the AUTOMATED-SEQUENCING group soliciting 
opinions on different software packages for DNA sequencing and assembly.  
He summarized responses on the net at 

   http://www.bio.net/hypermail/AUTOMATED-SEQUENCING/9608/0047.html

There were subsequent postings on the subject 

  http://www.bio.net/hypermail/AUTOMATED-SEQUENCING/9609/0007.html

etc.

> Subject: Summary: Software choice? sequencher, phrap/phred/consed, staden?
> 
> This is a summary of responses to :
> Do you have opinions to share on the best choice(s) of
> software for small-scale autosequencing? ...

[snip snip] 

> My thanks to the many people who wrote me or posted a reply. It is
> good to see so many helpful people sharing their experiences thru
> network news.
> 
> The unanimous favorite software was Sequencher. However only two
> respondents expressed experience with the Unix programs (Phrap &
> Staden),
> so this does not offer as clear an answer as I had hoped. ...

[snip snip...many quoted opinions deleted]

Is there an assumption here that UNIX-based tools have an inherent value 
that is not reflected in an unstructured polling of newsgroup readers?  
Without challenging that premise, what do people think is the main value 
of having sequence assembly software on a UNIX platform?  If Sequencher 
is already such a favorite on the Mac, is there something to be gained by 
going to the trouble to develope a UNIX version?

As an engineer, I like UNIX for software development, but I am biased 
towards the Macintosh for delivering ready-to-use analysis tools.  Larger 
research groups with existing UNIX-based data-management systems ask us 
about porting to that platform, but is there a compelling reason for us 
to develop Sequencher for Unix?  What would the advantage be in the 
average lab, other than the undeniable freedom to work in front of the 
computer of one's choosing?

This should not be construed as a product announcement or a promise to 
port Sequencher to a new operating system, but I would be interested in 
hearing your opinions on the value that you or your immediate colleagues 
would get from a UNIX version. What operating system characteristics 
would you want us to take advantage of that might not be available on a 
Mac.  Keep in mind that, in the real world of finite resources, the 
effort that we would put into porting all or part of Sequencher to a new 
platform would come at the expense of our ability to quickly add features 
to the program if it is only on the Mac.

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Gene Codes Corporation

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posting should not be construed as an offer to sell software nor to 
develop new programs.  Opinions expressed are my own unless directly 
attributed to others, and do not necessarily reflect those of my 
employer, but - under the circumstances - they often do.

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From: "W. Ford Doolittle" <ford@is.dal.ca>
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OPENING FOR POSTDOCTORAL FELLOW 
IN MOLECULAR BIOLOGY AND EVOLUTION 

AREAS OF RESEARCH:

(1)  early evolution of eukaryotes as assessed by gene surveys and 
phylogenetic reconstruction,  
(2) comparative analysis of whole genomes,  
(3) intron origins and evolution, and  
(4) development of genetics tools for Sulfolobus solfataricus, to be 
used in conjunction with a genome sequencing project.

Contact:	W. Ford Doolittle
		Department of Biochemistry
		Dalhousie University
		Halifax, NS  B3H 4H7		email:  ford@is.dal.ca





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From: Edmundo Castro <ecastro@physci.ucla.edu>
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Subject: Plasmid drawing program for Mac: freeware?
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Does anyone know of free or shareware plasmid drawing software for Macs?

Thank to all in advance!

E. Castro-Vargas

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From: tjrc1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Tim Cutts)
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Subject: Re: SEQUENCHER FOR UNIX?  WHY?
Date: 3 Oct 1996 08:05:48 GMT
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In article <m0v8ayk-00078qC@server.branch.com>,
Howard Cash <howardc@GENECODES.COM> wrote:
>Is there an assumption here that UNIX-based tools have an inherent value 
>that is not reflected in an unstructured polling of newsgroup readers?  
>Without challenging that premise, what do people think is the main value 
>of having sequence assembly software on a UNIX platform?  If Sequencher 
>is already such a favorite on the Mac, is there something to be gained by 
>going to the trouble to develope a UNIX version?
>
>As an engineer, I like UNIX for software development, but I am biased 
>towards the Macintosh for delivering ready-to-use analysis tools.  Larger 
>research groups with existing UNIX-based data-management systems ask us 
>about porting to that platform, but is there a compelling reason for us 
>to develop Sequencher for Unix?  What would the advantage be in the 
>average lab, other than the undeniable freedom to work in front of the 
>computer of one's choosing?

Value for money is one.  I am part of a team running a sequence
analysis service for Cambridge University.  With one computer and
software licence, we provide sequence analysis facilities for over
1,500 users, which is pretty inexpensive per user, even for a large
UNIX box, and the end user can then buy a cheaper terminal and still
have high speed searches.

Their machine does not have to sit there being unuseable for anything
else because its chewing sequence databases, therefore allowing them
to get on with other stuff on their Macs and PCs, like writing papers.

Then there is the undeniable advantage UNIX has of stability.  Macs
and PCs (with the possible exception of PCs running Windows NT or
UNIX) are not very stable, and I'd rather go home leaving my sequence
crunching work overnight without worrying that the machine might crash.

Plus a UNIX box automatically throws in a large number of other
benefits, such as user file security, electronic mail, convenient
submission of batch jobs, and so on.

Admittedly some of these are available on other platforms
(particularly Windows NT, which has both job sheduling and mail) but
as far as I am aware there is as yet no large sequencing package
specifically designed with Windows NT in mind.

UNIX really loses out on the user interface.  I totally fail to
understand this.  X-server software is now cheap for PCs and Macs.
UNIX is a very suitable operating system for this kind of work, but
lac of attention to user friendliness by most UNIX software developers
is its main detraction.  Admittedly there have been very good
attempts, such as the Motif CDE and OpenLook, but they have never
reached the polish and ease of use of the Mac or even Windows (please
no flame wars on Windows vs. MacOS, this isn't the point).

If you are going to port to UNIX, make the X user interface good, and
people will go for it.  Unfortunately this is difficult when Motif is
still a proprietary product, although most of your target market will
be running mainstream OS's like IRIX, Solaris or Digital UNIX, all of
which support Motif these days.

The real challenge is making a text based interface that is still
friendly.  This is extremely important in UNIX because nothing causes
a UNIX machine to grind to a halt faster than 30 simultaneous
X-windows sessions!

Just a few thoughts.

Tim.



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From: James Bonfield <jkb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
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Subject: Staden for Mac/PC?
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Following on from Don Gilbert's question on sequencing packages and Howard
Cash's followup (SEQUENCHER FOR UNIX? WHY?), this has led me to wonder about
the role of the Staden package for other platforms.

It would be possible (theoretically) to run the recent sections of the package
(including the assembly program) natively on both PCs and Macs due to the use
of Tk for the interface. We have tested this for some of the simpler programs
under Windows 95 with reasonable success. However we obviously can't afford to
spend time on this unless it's really desired.

So, to continue the questions, would people like to see our more recent tk
based programs (Gap4, Trev, and Sip4) running on a PC? On a Mac? How about a
Linux port too?

What factors influence the choice of program? (I'm sure Howard Cash would love
to know the answer to this too :-).) Is the platform the program runs on as
important as the abilities of the program itself (within reason naturally).
If so, what really _is_ the platform of choice.

Please do respond as the answers to some of these questions will surely help
many more developers than us, and hence improve the software quality for
everyone.

Cheers,

	James
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Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 2QH, England.
Also see Staden Package WWW site at http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/pubseq/
--
James Bonfield (jkb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk)   Tel: 01223 402499   Fax: 01223 412282
Medical Research Council - Laboratory of Molecular Biology,
Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 2QH, England.
Also see Staden Package WWW site at http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/pubseq/


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From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: SEQUENCHER FOR UNIX?  WHY?
Date: 3 Oct 1996 13:17:00 GMT
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In the particular case of Sequencher software, 
let me comment on a few of the reasons Tim Cutts suggested for a Unix version.

>> Value for money is one. ... With one computer and
>> software licence, we provide sequence analysis facilities for over
>> 1,500 users, which is pretty inexpensive per user

Sequencher is a commercial product that is sold on the basis
that each active process of the program at any one time has to
be a licensed process.  You pay for 5 licenses and 5 users can run
the program at once.  This is the same for many Unix commercial
products.  So there is equal value here between Mac and Unix system.
At IU we have Sequencher on a Mac file server where any of the over
1,500 Mac computers on campus can use it at any time, subject to
the limit on the number of licenses we own.  


>> Their machine does not have to sit there being unuseable for anything
>> else because its chewing sequence databases

Sequencher works well as a multi-tasking program, I believe.  There
would indeed be value in having Sequencher work on a remote, central 
computer though, at the user's choice.  It is possible to do this
with Mac systems, but I haven't seen much of it.  Clearly this is
a major value of Unix.  

One programming paradigm that I'm employing
now in my software is to provide client-server (TCP/IP) functions that are
transparent to the user, so one can use sequence editor on a desktop
and do the crunching on a remote computer, without much concern
to the user about which computer is doing what.  This is the BOP protocol
that now appears in SeqPup software, and which Howard Cash is welcome
to add into Sequencher.  I think Sequencher could be a much better
product if it added client-server functions to run analyses on
remote systems.


>>The real challenge is making a text based interface that is still
>>friendly.  

For complex software, this is a challenge that can no longer be
met.  It takes a lot of programming effort to build software that
biologists will find useful, easy to learn and use in a continuing way.
There are too many GUI elements that scientists require now from good
software, that cannot be mimicked in text interfaces.  It doesn't
matter now whether your platform is Xwindows, Mac, or MSWindows,
don't expect complex software to fit into a text-mode interface.


My original question regarding Sequencher (Mac), and
Phrap/Phred/Consed and Staden packages (Unix) was aimed at finding
the best program, regardless of platform.  There is value in central (Unix)
systems that are multi user, better at multi tasking, and often
higher performance (at at higher cost of course).  There is value
in desktop systems (Mac and Wintel) that are managable and usable by
biologists w/o special training, that work in an easy to use manner
and do all the important things a biologist needs.  

- Don

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From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
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Subject: Re: Staden for Mac/PC?
Date: 3 Oct 1996 13:02:07 GMT
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James,

You might think of selecting one program of the Staden package
to make available on a trial basis for Mac and Wintel systems.
That could help you gauge interest.  Regarding your porting effort,
a Linux verison might be simplest to do and would get your
package to a larger range of hardware.

Regarding which computer systems are most widely used by sequence
analyzing bioscientists:  I don't know, probably no one really knows
these days.  My impression though is
that Macintoshes remain the most widely used, and despite recent
problems at Apple computer, Macs remain a very viable system that
users of them find compelling.  Wintel systems are catching up somewhat.
Unix is far behind as a commonly used (desktop) system,
though many instititions offer it as a shared-service option.  But
if you want to reach the most users, write your software to run on
all these systems (like I do :).

- Don

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From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Plasmid drawing program for Mac: freeware?
Date: 3 Oct 1996 12:52:49 GMT
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>There is a plasmid drawing program (amongst all of the other mac
>software) called macplasmap downloadable from
>
>gopher://ftp.bio.indiana.edu:70/11/IUBio-Software+Data/molbio/mac


You have a choice of http, gopher and ftp entrances to IUBio archive:
  ftp://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/molbio/mac/
  gopher://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/11/IUBio-Software+Data/molbio/mac/
  http://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/IUBio-Software+Data/molbio/mac/

IUBio archive will this month move to a new computer locally.
The following names will remain valid:
  iubio.bio.indiana.edu     (prefered name)
  ftp.bio.indiana.edu   

This name will no longer be valid:
  fly.bio.indiana.edu       (this is the actual computer's name, the
         new computer has another name)


-- Don

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Subject: Used AutoCAD Wanted
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 20:40:35 GMT
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Used AutoCAD Wanted

Must be a commercial copy and upgradable.

cad29@mail.idt.net


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On Tuesday, 8 Oct, 10am EST (3pm GMT)
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Affected host name & aliases:
fly.bio.indiana.edu
iubio.bio.indiana.edu
flybase.bio.indiana.edu
ftp.bio.indiana.edu

Mirror servers will be available during this time, including
 FlyBase Drosophila database:
	http://www.embl-ebi.ac.uk/flybase/
	http://www.angis.su.oz.au:7081/
	http://shigen.lab.nig.ac.jp:7081/
	http://cbbridges.harvard.edu:7081/
 and gopher servers at
	gopher.embl-ebi.ac.uk 7071
	shigen.lab.nig.ac.jp 7071
	cbbridges.harvard.edu 7071

 IUBio FTP file mirrors:
	ftp://ftp.gdbnet.ad.jp/ftpsync/ftp.bio.indiana.edu/
	ftp://ftp.ddbj.nig.ac.jp/pub/mirror/IUBIO/molbio 
	ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/molbio/iubiomolbio 
	ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/molbio 

-- Don

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From: jes@presto.med.upenn.edu (Joe Smith)
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Oh dear.  Here we go again.  I don't meant this to be advocacy and I
refuse to get involved in a PC vs. Unix discussion (as much as I enjoy
them ;-).  It's just a different opinion.

In article <530ecc$qj7@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) writes:

   My original question regarding Sequencher (Mac), and
   Phrap/Phred/Consed and Staden packages (Unix) was aimed at finding
   the best program, regardless of platform.  There is value in central (Unix)
   systems that are multi user, better at multi tasking, and often
   higher performance (at at higher cost of course).

[space added not in original]
                                                       There is value
   in desktop systems (Mac and Wintel) that are managable and usable by
   biologists w/o special training, that work in an easy to use manner
   and do all the important things a biologist needs.  

I agree: there's value in both.  We use both in the lab to good
advantage.

But, while the PC systems have caught the workstation in performance,
and sometime ago surpassed them in price/performance, they have also
increased greatly in complexity.  Around here at least, I find that
Don's last statement no longer rings entirely true.  People spend a
lot of time fiddling around with the Macs and PCs, trying to get
things to work.  We also spend a lot of money trying to keep up with
the latest (and hopefully compatible) versions of the OS and all the
add-ons.

If all you want to do is turn on the computer and run a word
processor, then yes, it's OK.  But in many cases where people are
trying to do 'all the important things a biologist needs', PCs are not
terribly easy to setup and maintain.  And for PCs that are used in a
lab setting, with networks and multiple users, it gets much worse.

OTOH, with the advent of Linux and other cheap/free Unixes, the
price/performance gap is completely gone.  There is no longer a
premium to be paid to run Unix.  The usability gap is also shrinking
as more commercial software becomes available.

So, I see a value in the desktop Unix market, in that there's more
stability and more room to grow smoothly.

<Joe
-- 
 Joe Smith
 University of Pennsylvania                   jes@presto.med.upenn.edu
 Department of Physiology
 Philadelphia, PA 19104

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From: mac-biocomputing1user <user@mac-biocomputing1.embl-heidelberg.de>
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I'm looking for a  graphycal software able to create  in an easy way
presentation for molecular and cell biology experiments, Ex: plasmids,
biochemical pathways, molecules display ...
Thank you in advance

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996
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From: becquart@lovelace.infobiogen.fr (Paul Becquart)
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Subject: Re: Plasmid drawing program for Mac: freeware?
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Edmundo Castro (ecastro@physci.ucla.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know of free or shareware plasmid drawing software for Macs?

: Thank to all in advance!

: E. Castro-Vargas

Gene Construction Kit is a good (expensive) software with a lot of utilities.

Paul.

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I would like to export my data from a database to Excel or QuattroPro.
Could someone point me where to find their formats ?
Thank you for any help.

yue


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test

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From: wrp@alpha0.bioch.virginia.edu (William R. Pearson)
Subject: Re: Blast search help needed.
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The current versions of the FASTA package, which includes FASTX, will
allow you to search subsets of a DNA query sequence sequence against a
database. You can specify the part of the query sequence you which to
use as shown below:

	fastx query.dna:1-99 swissprot

It is relatively easy to run a unix shell script that will search each
XXXX nt piece of a query sequence.  Here is one that I have used
(csh):

    #!/bin/csh
    set m=0
    while ( $m < 40000 )               # query sequence is 40000 nt long
    @ n = ($m + 1100)                  # search in 1100 nt chunks
    @ start = ($m + 1)
    if ( $start > 1000 ) then          # use a 100 nt overlap
    @ start = ($start - 100)
    endif
    echo "searching $start - $n"
    fastx3_t -q cosmid.seq:${start}-${n} s > cos.${start}-${n}.ok2x_s
    fastx3_t -i -q cosmid.seq:${start}-${n} s > cos.${start}-${n}.ok2y_s
    @ m = ($m + 1000)                   # move down 1000 nt
    end


From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996
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From: Mick Partis <mick.partis@hri.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Plasmid drawing program for Mac: freeware?
Date: 3 Oct 1996 11:58:20 GMT
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Edmundo Castro <ecastro@physci.ucla.edu> wrote:
>Does anyone know of free or shareware plasmid drawing software for Macs?
>
>Thank to all in advance!
>
>E. Castro-Vargas


There is a plasmid drawing program (amongst all of the other mac
software) called macplasmap downloadable from

gopher://ftp.bio.indiana.edu:70/11/IUBio-Software+Data/molbio/mac


-- 
mick.partis@hri.ac.uk         Horticulture Research International
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/1957/



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From: operga1@uic.edu (Oliver R.W. Pergams)
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I'd like to purchase some game theory software, for applications in ecology.  
Does anyone know of some?

Oliver Pergams
University of Illinois at Chicago
operga1@uic.edu
--
Oliver Pergams
University of Illinois at Chicago
E-Mail: operga1@uic.edu

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Hello,

Does anyone know of a program that analyzes orfs for high gc organism
based on gc biase for the mac.  I've heard of codon preference but don't
really know how to obtain a copy.  

Thanks.

Minh

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From: pingouin@crystal.u-strasbg.fr (Francois Jeanmougin)
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In article <m2n2y34vzu.fsf@presto.med.upenn.edu>,
	jes@presto.med.upenn.edu (Joe Smith) writes:
[...]
>OTOH, with the advent of Linux and other cheap/free Unixes, the
>price/performance gap is completely gone.  There is no longer a
>premium to be paid to run Unix.  The usability gap is also shrinking
>as more commercial software becomes available.
>
>So, I see a value in the desktop Unix market, in that there's more
>stability and more room to grow smoothly.

	I don't know if this the good newsgroup for this discution, but...
Don't flame about an OS war also but...Most of the bioinformatician here
are developping lot of easy to use softwares in C that are free. There are
also some development tools (like NCBI toolkit) to make good
grafic interfaces for clients. Regarding that Linux is free of charge
and really stable (like a UNIX system can), we all have to think about
this solution. 
	Of course, it is always a question of intitute politic, and
we will never find help from commercial companies in that way. (I don't
know if this is clear?!?).
	This is only my opinion in "why a commercial should make a
UNIX version of there softwares". If we pay less for the system and some
tools, then we can (perhaps) find money for (good) commercial 
specific products.

					(a little bit sleepy)Francois.
-- 
Francois Jeanmougin
Service de bioinformatique / bioinformatics service
IGBMC BP 163
67404 Illkirch France
tel : (33) 88 65 32 71
e-mail : jeanmougin@igbmc.u-strasbg.fr
"Tout ca m'est tergal, qu'il laine ou qu'il chandail" (STTELLLA)


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From: krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
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Subject: Re: Software for Molecular Biology Presentation
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mac-biocomputing1user (user@mac-biocomputing1.embl-heidelberg.de) wrote:
> I'm looking for a  graphycal software able to create  in an easy way
> presentation for molecular and cell biology experiments, Ex: plasmids,

Look into the various plasmid drawing programs (dependent on platform).
We are currently thinking of switching to the Gene Construction Kit
(a Mac program, since we are mostly Mac-based).

> biochemical pathways,

MacDraw or any other drawing program will do fine.

> molecules display ...

To get the fancy pictures which you often see in structural articles,
you would have to shop around for Molscript, Raster3D, Ribbon, ...
All these programs run only under Unix but should be easily available
at the EMBL.

--Cornelius.

-- 
/* Cornelius Krasel, U Wuerzburg, Dept. of Pharmacology, Versbacher Str. 9 */
/* D-97078 Wuerzburg, Germany   email: phak004@rzbox.uni-wuerzburg.de  SP3 */
/* "Science is the game we play with God to find out what His rules are."  */

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From rd_king@icrf.icnet.uk Thu Oct  3 17:45:16 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:42:26 +0100
From: "Ross D. King" <rd_king@icrf.icnet.uk>
To: m.sternberg@icrf.icnet.uk
Subject: DSC 

DSC Protein Secondary Structure Prediction

I am pleased to announce the opening of a new web site for 
the prediction of protein secondary structure.
Two prediction modes are available:

1) Given a single sequence.  A multiple sequence alignmentt 
will be formed and DSC used to predict secondary structure.
http://www.icnet.uk/bmm/dsc/dsc_form_align.html

2) Given a  multiple sequence alignmnet.  DSC will 
use this alignment to predict secondary structure.
http://www.icnet.uk/bmm/dsc/dsc_read_align.html

The advantages of DSC are:
1) It is very accurate.  DSC has a prediction accuracy of 70.1% on a 
standard set of 126 proteins.  This was not significantly different 
from PHD, a popular prediction method.  For medium length sequences 
DSC was more accurate than PHD, and combining DSC and PHD produced 
a prediction method more accurate than either.

2) It is free.  There is no charge for using DSC.  

3) The C source code is available.  This would allow you 
to run DSC on your own system if you had confidential sequences.
ftp://ftp.icnet.uk/icrf-public/bmm/king/dsc/dsc.tar.z

DSC is based on simple linear statistics.  A paper on the
scientific basis of DSC will appear in Protein Science:
"Identification and Application of the Concepts Important for
Accurate and Reliable Protein Secondary Structure Prediction"
by Ross D. King & Michael J.E. Sternberg


Ross D. King
Biomolecular Modelling Laboratory
Imperial Cancer Research Fund
Lincoln's Inn Fields, P. O. Box 123,
London, WC2A 3PX, U.K.
Tel: +44 171 269 3565, Fax: +44 171 269 3479,
rd_king@icrf.icnet.uk
m.sternberg@icrf.icnet.uk (contact until 25 Oct 96)


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* Imperial Cancer Research Fund       Others in group who can help :   *
* 44 Lincoln's Inn Fields             Suhail Islam Tel +44-71-269-3380 *
* London WC2A 3PX, England            Paul Bates   Tel +44-71-269-3348 *
************************************************************************  

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: jpolop@unrccc.edu.ar (Jaime Polop)
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Subject: EDUCATIVE SOFTWARE IN EVOLUTION
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          Dear members of the list:
I am Professor of the Biology Department (Universidad Nacional de Rio
          Cuarto, Argentina). I am interested in catalogs on
          educational software (prefably multimedia) in
          Evolution.

          The idea is use them like didactic complementary elements to
          the current pedagogic activities. 

          Sincerely yours


          Dr. Jaime J. Polop
          Dto. Ciencias Naturales
          Universidad Nacional de Rio Cuarto
          Agencia N 3 CP 5800 Rio Cuarto - Cordoba -  Argentina
          FAX (++54) (58) 680280 
          TE (++54) (58) 676236
          e-mail JPOLOP@UNRCCC.edu.ar


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From: kaifr@uni-tuebingen.de (Dr. Kai-Uwe Froehlich)
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In article <3252D20F.33F2@physci.ucla.edu>, ecastro@physci.ucla.edu wrote:

> Does anyone know of free or shareware plasmid drawing software for Macs?
> 
> Thank to all in advance!
> 
> E. Castro-Vargas

I have written a plasmid drawing program, primarily for our lab use (so it
is anything but polished), which I have released as Freeware. It converts
lists of restriction sites and fragment/gene positions into Postscript
files.

Its weak points in short
- It is a Hypercard stack, so you need Hypercard to run it (luckily, speed
is no problem, there are no processor intensive steps involved)
- The output are Postscript files in Illustrator format. To view and to
further edit the picture (which you will have to, see below), you need
either Adobe Illustrator, or the Shareware EPStoPICT, which produces a
fully editable, object oriented PICT version of the graphics.
- The program does not care for overlapping labels, so in most cases you
must do some fine-tuning 

On the other hand, the program
- allows "electronic cloning", so you can quickly construct new plasmids
from those already entered in the program
- can draw all plasmids at the same size, but also using the same (or any
you want) scale (that was the primary reason for me to write the program,
most commercial programs  had (still have?) no way to specify the drawing
scale (except by different magnification in the page setup)
- draws linear and circular maps, allows borders of various widths and
fills of grays, arrows...
- Output quality is great, thanks to Postscript
- The price is right :-)

For a more detailed description, including screen shots of the output
graphics,  see
<http://yeamob.pci.chemie.uni-tuebingen.de/Archiv/PlasmidMaker.html>

and that is also the place to download the stack:
<http://yeamob.pci.chemie.uni-tuebingen.de/Archiv/Plasmid-Maker.hqx>

(BTW, there is also a stack for the organization of plasmid/strain
collections available)

Kai
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Hoppe-Seyler-Str. 4, 76072 Tuebingen, Germany

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996
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Yue

Export your data to an ASCII file (either space or tab delineated) and
then import into Excel - it works very well.

Scott Sutton, PhD
The Microbiology BBS
telnet:  microbiol.org
http://microbiol.org



YU>I would like to export my data from a database to Excel or QuattroPro.
YU>Could someone point me where to find their formats ?
YU>Thank you for any help.

YU>yue



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J'utilise pour ma part Gene construction Kit depuis trois ans poue mes clonages. Les cartes ainsi dessinees sont d'excellente presentation. C'est par ailleurs un excellent outil pour la biologie moleculaire. Pour le reste n'importe quel soft de dessin style canvas devrait t'aider.
Bonne chance
Paul

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In article <530dgf$ptg@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu>, Don Gilbert
<gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu> writes
>My impression though is
>that Macintoshes remain the most widely used, and despite recent
>problems at Apple computer, Macs remain a very viable system that
>users of them find compelling.  Wintel systems are catching up somewhat.

That may be the case in the US but here in the UK I know umpteen
academic labs with PC's but can only think of the odd one with Mac's.
just an observation.

Duncan  
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michael.baron@bbsrc.ac.uk wrote:
: Dr. Duncan Clark wrote:
: > 
: > In article <530dgf$ptg@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu>, Don Gilbert
: > <gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu> writes
: > >My impression though is
: > >that Macintoshes remain the most widely used, and despite recent
: > >problems at Apple computer, Macs remain a very viable system that
: > >users of them find compelling.  Wintel systems are catching up somewhat.
: > 
: > That may be the case in the US but here in the UK I know umpteen
: > academic labs with PC's but can only think of the odd one with Mac's.
: > just an observation.
: > This may be because many UK institutions are pressured to follow an 
: institute policy, set by non-users. Our own site, like many, has 
: to follow the official BBSRC line of using Wintel machines, despite the 
: privately expressed preference of some of the IT staff for the MacOS 
: platform. Such a policy probably originated years ago, simply on the case 
: that a DOS-box was cheaper than a Mac, and the people making the decision 
: had secretaries to use the machines (;-)). Once such policies are made, 
: they tend to be set in stone.

Guess I'll add my 0.02c worth too! My experience in the US is that the
generation that is coming through now has been heaviliy influenced by
high school use of Macs, and they *really* often don't like to use PC's at
all in regard to lab work. Though I do come across pockets of windows
users, my experience is that most all the groups that I have worked with
or had dealings with are heavily Mac based. For this reason, the
availablity of good (and hopefully free) molecular biology software for
the Mac is very important. If I had a nickel for every lab that I had seen
relying totally on the use of an ancient copy of 'DNA STRIDER', I would be
a rich man. The problem with this apparent imbalance of platform is that
Windows has some really excellent software development tools written for
it, whilst the Mac relies on fewer (and in my experience less featured)
software IDE's. I can put together a relatively complex windows program in
a matter of minutes (OK, maybe an hour!) using a combination of VB and
VC++; The Mac has no such simple Software IDE (Though MS is threatening to
release such a beast soon). This is attested to by looking at the software
releases announced in this newsgroup by science groups; the majority of
this is Windows based.


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Dr. Duncan Clark wrote:
> 
> In article <530dgf$ptg@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu>, Don Gilbert
> <gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu> writes
> >My impression though is
> >that Macintoshes remain the most widely used, and despite recent
> >problems at Apple computer, Macs remain a very viable system that
> >users of them find compelling.  Wintel systems are catching up somewhat.
> 
> That may be the case in the US but here in the UK I know umpteen
> academic labs with PC's but can only think of the odd one with Mac's.
> just an observation.
> This may be because many UK institutions are pressured to follow an 
institute policy, set by non-users. Our own site, like many, has 
to follow the official BBSRC line of using Wintel machines, despite the 
privately expressed preference of some of the IT staff for the MacOS 
platform. Such a policy probably originated years ago, simply on the case 
that a DOS-box was cheaper than a Mac, and the people making the decision 
had secretaries to use the machines (;-)). Once such policies are made, 
they tend to be set in stone.

Just *my* 2p's worth.

Michael D. Baron
michael.baron@bbsrc.ac.uk

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From: imazhq@leonis.nus.sg (Zheng Huanquan)
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Can anyone here suugest a good software for analysis of potential 
phosphorylation site and surface probability of a protein?

thanks. 
HQ Zheng

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From: zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu>
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howdy folks,

i'm attempting to compile a list of software that either people have
claimed runs under Linux or that is known to run under Linux for the
people at Caldera (Caldera is Ray Noorda's ( of Novell fame ) new
company).

here is my list so far.  if people have additions i'd love to have
them.  it would be nice if you could include a brief description or a
URL pointing to a web page with a description.  also, a URL for the
source or binary executable would be super..

thanks,

- -patrick finerty
biochem grad student, u of utah

======================================================================

a lot of these are in FORTRAN so how well they compile is probably due
to how good the fortran support on a system is...

=======
something called VMD (Visual Molecular Dynamics) is almost ported: 
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/ 
=======
Molden
fortran source, got it from

ftp://ftp.caos.kun.nl/pub/molgraph/molden

=======
RasMol
available on sunsite, also available here:

it _is_ possible to compile this for 16 bpp display, i've done it and
used it a lot myself.  you just have to change the Makefile to use
- -DSIXTEENBIT instead of -DEIGHTBIT or -DTHIRTYTWOBIT
=======

XtalView

also in fortran (crystallographers love fortran).  have to sign a
license to get source but not for binaries...

http://www.sdsc.edu/CCMS/Packages/XTALVIEW/

it looks like binaries are avail for Linux...(according to the above
page)
=======
WhatIf

http://swift.embl-heidelberg.de/whatif/

licensed for a small fee to academics...

=======
Procheck

http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/~roman/procheck/procheck.html

obtain source from:
ftp://128.40.46.11/pub/procheck/tar3_4/procheck.tar.Z 

this is more fortran fun and games.  it seems to compile almost but i
haven't tried to use it yet...

=======
MOPAC
i searched all over for this - couldn't find the source!  only a ton
of damned html manuals.  a post to bionet.software is in order...

=======
i heard the GAMESS programs compile under Linux but i did not try them
as you have to go through a little effort to get them...

GAMESS-US
http://www.msg.ameslab.gov/GAMESS/dist.menu.html
site license is free to everyone but must sign a form... 


GAMESS-UK
http://gserv1.dl.ac.uk/CCP/CCP1/gamess.html
=======

Entrez/Cn3D from ncbi

database searching tools (for remote database queries)

the ncbi package...

linux binary of the network database search tools:
ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/network/blast2/

this requires the network Entrez program to be configured, get a linux
binary here:  ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/network/linux.tar.Z

=======
fasta	ftp.virginia.edu/pub/fasta/fasta30t6.shar.Z
used default makefile but changed THR_CC= to be blank.

   THR_CC=

   then  make sall
=======


RNA folding related software:

Viena RNA package:
compiles fine under Linux but Makefile needs tweaking (hell, i managed
to get it to work...)

ftp://ftp.itc.univie.ac.at/pub/RNA/ViennaRNA-1.1b.tar.gz

=======
naview 

this compiles fine under Linux

http://www.ibc.wustl.edu/~zuker/ref/BRUR88.html

ftp://snark.wustl.edu/pub/naview.tar.Z
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From: hughobr@iol.ie (Hugh O'Brien)
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eramirez@BACATA.USC.UNAL.EDU.CO (EFRAIN RAMIREZ ZAPATA) wrote:

>test

It works.


Hugh,
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Email: hughobr@iol.ie
http://www.iol.ie/~hughobr/
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From: Andreas Wernitznig <h8760592@edv1.boku.ac.at>
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Subject: Re: Excel format: where to find?
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Yue Huang wrote:
> 
> I would like to export my data from a database to Excel or QuattroPro.
> Could someone point me where to find their formats ?
> Thank you for any help.
> 
> yue
In what format are your data ? What Database are you using ?
Excel supports the import of many database-formats via ODBC (Open
Database Connectivity). The direct translation into Excel format is
really not easy.

Andreas Wernitznig

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Does anyone know where I can find Netspinner and/or Watchmaker available
for download for the Mac?

Thanks;


Sonya
elysium@wolfenet.com

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From: kofoid@biology.utah.edu (Eric Kofoid)
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Subject: [Q]downloadable molecular clipart?
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 11:49:21 -0700
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Can someone point me to a source of downloadable structural images of
various biomolecules? I'm especially interested in space-filling or ribbon
structures of cobalamin and NADH. These will be used to decorate web pages
and journal papers. I'm not interested in anything requiring a Java applet
to view, just simple stuff in GIF, JPEG, PICT or TIFF format.

Cheers,

Eric.

-- 
Eric Kofoid        Dept.Biology, U.Utah       kofoid@biology.utah.edu

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> From zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu Sat Oct  5 06:55:58 1996

Also from NCBI is 'sequin', our "new" sequence submission/editing tool:

ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sequin/linux.tar.Z

more on sequin from:

http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Sequin/

f.

--
| B.F. Francis Ouellette  
| GenBank
|
| francis@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov   


> =======
> 
> Entrez/Cn3D from ncbi
> 
> database searching tools (for remote database queries)
> 
> the ncbi package...
> 
> linux binary of the network database search tools:
> ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/network/blast2/
> 
> this requires the network Entrez program to be configured, get a linux
> binary here:  ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/network/linux.tar.Z
> 
> =======


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Subject: Re: science software (mol biol/biochem/biology) under Linux
Date: 5 Oct 1996 15:49:50 GMT
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On 04 Oct 1996 16:41:22 -0600, zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> wrote:
>i'm attempting to compile a list of software that either people have
>claimed runs under Linux or that is known to run under Linux for the
>people at Caldera (Caldera is Ray Noorda's ( of Novell fame ) new
>company).

There are several others ....

SignalScal - scan for transcription factor binding sites
           - version 4.07, written in C, compiles fine
           - ftp://biosci.umn.edu/pub/sigscan/unix

PIMA - pattern induced multiple sequence alignment
     - version 1.40, written in C, compiles fine
     - ftp://gc.bcm.tmc.edu/pub/software/pima

Predator - structural prediction based on multiple alignments
         - version 1.0, written in C, compiles fine
         - ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/unix/predator

ClustalW - pairwise and multiple alignments
         - version 1.60, written in C, compiles fine
         - ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/unix

Seqsee - protein sequence analysis package
       - version 1.2, written in C, compiles fine
       - available upon request from seqsee@procyon.biochem.ualberta.ca

Pratt - pattern discovery in sets of unaligned sequences
      - version 2.0, written in C, minor changes
      - ftp://ftp.ii.uib.no

Primer3 - PCR primer design
        - release 0.1, written in C, compiles fine
        - ftp://genome.wi.mit.edu

tacg - restriction analysis
     - version 1.5, written in C, compiles fine
     - ftp://mamba.bio.uci.edu/pub/tacg/

I'm sure you already have references for other common packages such
as Don Gilbert's sequence conversion utility - readseq, GDE, NCBI blast
etc. etc.

Later,
Ashok
-- 
Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D.
Department of Oncology            email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin-Madison                  tel: (608) 262-6697


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From: Hemant Varma <varma@sb10.llnl.gov>
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Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT:SECOND PROTEIN STRUCTURE PREDICTION EXPERIMENT
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______________________________________________

SECOND PROTEIN STRUCTURE PREDICTION EXPERIMENT
______________________________________________

Applications are invited for attendance of the Second Meeting on the
Critical Assessment of Techniques for Protein Structure Prediction
(CASP2). The meeting will be the culmination of a community wide
experiment to determine the effectiveness of current prediction
methods. It is expected that over 800 blind predictions from more 
than 50 prediction teams on approximately 40 different proteins will 
have been received by the time the prediction season closes.

The purpose of the meeting is to determine what went right with the
predictions, what went wrong, if possible to understand why, and to
identify the promising directions for future work.

The meeting will be held at the Asilomar Conference Center, Pacific
Grove, California, December 12-16, 1996. Accommodation will be on 
site. Support for the meeting has been requested from the U.S. 
Department of Energy, National Institutes of Health, and National 
Institute of Standards and Technology.

CASP2 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE:
Steve Bryant, NCBI, National Library of Medicine, USA  Co-chair
Tim Hubbard, Center for Protein Engineering, England   Co-chair
John Moult, CARB, University of Maryland, USA          President
Jan Pedersen, CARB, University of Maryland, USA
Krzysztof Fidelis, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, USA
Rod Balhorn, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, USA
Richard Judson, Sandia National Laboratory, USA

MORE ABOUT THE MEETING AND ON-LINE REGISTRATION FORMS:  

http://PredictionCenter.llnl.gov

Krzysztof Fidelis
Protein Structure Prediction Center, Livermore
for CASP2 organizers.

______________________________________________

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Subject: Re: science software (mol biol/biochem/biology) under Linux
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 18:16:28 -0400
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To: zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu>

zinc wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> howdy folks,
> 
> i'm attempting to compile a list of software that either people have
> claimed runs under Linux or that is known to run under Linux for the
> people at Caldera (Caldera is Ray Noorda's ( of Novell fame ) new
> company).
> 
> here is my list so far.  if people have additions i'd love to have
> them.  it would be nice if you could include a brief description or a
> URL pointing to a web page with a description.  also, a URL for the
> source or binary executable would be super..
> 
> thanks,
> 


Hi,

I was also thinking to make such a list to make a web page later
under the name of Linux for Biology. I hope you will keep the
list and announce later for the community.

Cheers,

Jong





> - -patrick finerty
> biochem grad student, u of utah
> 
> ======================================================================
> 
> a lot of these are in FORTRAN so how well they compile is probably due
> to how good the fortran support on a system is...
> 
> =======
> something called VMD (Visual Molecular Dynamics) is almost ported:
> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> =======
> Molden
> fortran source, got it from
> 
> ftp://ftp.caos.kun.nl/pub/molgraph/molden
> 
> =======
> RasMol
> available on sunsite, also available here:
> 
> it _is_ possible to compile this for 16 bpp display, i've done it and
> used it a lot myself.  you just have to change the Makefile to use
> - -DSIXTEENBIT instead of -DEIGHTBIT or -DTHIRTYTWOBIT
> =======
> 
> XtalView
> 
> also in fortran (crystallographers love fortran).  have to sign a
> license to get source but not for binaries...
> 
> http://www.sdsc.edu/CCMS/Packages/XTALVIEW/
> 
> it looks like binaries are avail for Linux...(according to the above
> page)
> =======
> WhatIf
> 
> http://swift.embl-heidelberg.de/whatif/
> 
> licensed for a small fee to academics...
> 
> =======
> Procheck
> 
> http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/~roman/procheck/procheck.html
> 
> obtain source from:
> ftp://128.40.46.11/pub/procheck/tar3_4/procheck.tar.Z
> 
> this is more fortran fun and games.  it seems to compile almost but i
> haven't tried to use it yet...
> 
> =======
> MOPAC
> i searched all over for this - couldn't find the source!  only a ton
> of damned html manuals.  a post to bionet.software is in order...
> 
> =======
> i heard the GAMESS programs compile under Linux but i did not try them
> as you have to go through a little effort to get them...
> 
> GAMESS-US
> http://www.msg.ameslab.gov/GAMESS/dist.menu.html
> site license is free to everyone but must sign a form...
> 
> GAMESS-UK
> http://gserv1.dl.ac.uk/CCP/CCP1/gamess.html
> =======
> 
> Entrez/Cn3D from ncbi
> 
> database searching tools (for remote database queries)
> 
> the ncbi package...
> 
> linux binary of the network database search tools:
> ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/network/blast2/
> 
> this requires the network Entrez program to be configured, get a linux
> binary here:  ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/network/linux.tar.Z
> 
> =======
> fasta   ftp.virginia.edu/pub/fasta/fasta30t6.shar.Z
> used default makefile but changed THR_CC= to be blank.
> 
>    THR_CC=
> 
>    then  make sall
> =======
> 
> RNA folding related software:
> 
> Viena RNA package:
> compiles fine under Linux but Makefile needs tweaking (hell, i managed
> to get it to work...)
> 
> ftp://ftp.itc.univie.ac.at/pub/RNA/ViennaRNA-1.1b.tar.gz
> 
> =======
> naview
> 
> this compiles fine under Linux
> 
> http://www.ibc.wustl.edu/~zuker/ref/BRUR88.html
> 
> ftp://snark.wustl.edu/pub/naview.tar.Z
> ===========================================================================
> 
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Oct 05 23:00:00 1996
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From: blduncch@aol.com (BLDUNCCH)
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Subject: Protein Viewer
Date: 6 Oct 1996 11:04:04 -0400
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Where can I download a good protein viewer for IBM-PC, either DOS or Win
3.1?

I want to be able to read Brookhaven files and to add colors to selected
amino acid residues.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Oct 05 23:00:00 1996
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> From blduncch@aol.com Sun Oct  6 12:31:01 1996

> Where can I download a good protein viewer for IBM-PC, either DOS or Win
> 3.1?
> 
> I want to be able to read Brookhaven files and to add colors to selected
> amino acid residues.


try Cn3D and Entrez a whirl ...  info available from:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Structure/cn3d.html

cheers,

f.

--
| B.F. Francis Ouellette  
| GenBank
|
| francis@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov   

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From: krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
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Subject: Re: science software (mol biol/biochem/biology) under Linux
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More stuff that runs under Linux:

- the fasta package (sequence comparison)
- molscript (makes schematics of protein structures; Fortran, I had to 
  patch it a little to make it work with f2c; contact Per Kraulis to
  get the source).
- raster3d (raytraces molscript figures; a mixture of Fortran and C).

Sorry, I don't know the sites where I got them from.

--Cornelius.

-- 
/* Cornelius Krasel, U Wuerzburg, Dept. of Pharmacology, Versbacher Str. 9 */
/* D-97078 Wuerzburg, Germany   email: phak004@rzbox.uni-wuerzburg.de  SP3 */
/* "Science is the game we play with God to find out what His rules are."  */

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Oct 05 23:00:00 1996
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From: Kim Pruitt <saltcity@cyber2.servtech.com>
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Subject: Plasmid Tracker now Available
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 22:15:13 -0700
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We are pleased to announce the release of Plasmid Tracker for Windows. 
The Plasmid Tracker database program is designed to help you keep track
of bacterial freezer stocks.  Some of the features include: search and
find, the capability to maintain restriction maps, customizable data
fields, supports data import/export, and supports maintenance of
multiple databases which can be merged into a master database as needed.

Please go to http://www.servtech.com/public/saltcity for additional
information and to download a FREE DEMO version of Plasmid Tracker.

Kim D. Pruitt
Salt City Software
e-mail: 70761.2216@compuserve.com
internet: http://www.servtech.com/public/saltcity

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From: "Luca I.G. TOLDO" <luca.toldo@embl-heidelberg.de>
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Subject: Re: Software for viewing automated sequencer files on a PC?
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 13:18:37 +0200
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The java applet developed by Eugen Buehler allows ANY Java aware
WWW browser of interacting with the SCF format files. 
The Eugen Buehler's applet is included in the JaMBW package:
Java Workbench in Molecular Biology as well. 
(http://www.embl-heidelberg.de/~toldo/JaMBW.html) that contains
link also to the original distrib of the SCF viewer.

The PC software "GeneSkipper" developed by Christian Schwager in EMBL
Heidelberg also has a dedicated module for allowing interaction
with SCF and ALF format files. his email address is
Schwager@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE

I have not yet tested it, but I recall having read that also the GCG
package seems to be able of use the ALF or SCF formats.

Regards


Dr. Luca Ida Giovanni TOLDO (Ph.D.)
European Molecular Biology Laboratory
Computer Group
Heidelberg
Germany

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Subject: Used AutoCAD Wanted
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Used AutoCAD Wanted

Must be a legal commercial copy.

cad29@mail.idt.net


From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: Andy.Law@bbsrc.ac.uk (Andy Law)
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Subject: Re: Staden for Mac/PC?
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In article <325559BC.1D98@bbsrc.ac.uk>, michael.baron@bbsrc.ac.uk wrote:

 >  This may be because many UK institutions are pressured to follow an 
 >  institute policy, set by non-users. Our own site, like many, has 
 >  to follow the official BBSRC line of using Wintel machines, despite the 
 >  privately expressed preference of some of the IT staff for the MacOS 
 >  platform. Such a policy probably originated years ago, simply on the case 
 >  that a DOS-box was cheaper than a Mac, and the people making the decision 
 >  had secretaries to use the machines (;-)). Once such policies are made, 
 >  they tend to be set in stone.
 >  

You're working at the wrong bbsrc institute Michael, my old son!

Andy Law
------------------
( Andy.Law@bbsrc.ac.uk )
( Big Nose in Edinburgh )

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Hi,

I want to transfer data from HyperCard(2.2) to FileMaker(3.0). I tried
saving my HyperCard files in other format (like Excel) and import into
FileMaker   but did not succeed.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks.
-- 
Regards,
An-Ping Hsia
Schnable Lab
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
From: "William Ho" <willho@chevalier.net>
Subject: Looking for software !!
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Hello,
	I am looking for a software for stock exchange analysis, anyone have
suggestion ?
	Thanks.


From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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Subject: Pharmaceutical Stability Database Packages
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I work for a pharmaceutical company in a process development role. I 
would like to purchase software which is preferrably able to run on IBM 
PCs, maintain a database of drug stability and to produce tables and 
output graphs. Ability to access data from LIMS and statistically analyse 
the output in accordance with the ICH giudelines would be an advantage.

Does anyone have any practical experience with such systems and can 
recommend one?

Michael McNamara
email: mmcnamar@csl.com.au
CSL Limited
45 Poplar Rd.,
Parkville
Vic 3052
Australia




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From: "Simon M. Brocklehurst" <smb@bioch.ox.ac.uk>
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Subject: NAOMI - Important messages
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 09:42:12 +0100
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NAOMI - Important messages to all users - please read.
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**** The NAOMI anonymous FTP server is now back up again after some
     considerable downtime.  Sorry for all the inconvenience this 
     caused.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

**** I've taken this opportunity to make available the Version 3.0
     User Guide which is complete reworking of the old User Guide. 
     It is much improved (fast loading, better organised etc).

     It is available only on the Web site (select the User Guide -
Europe 
     link) at present.  NAOMI Web site URL given below.

     Version 3.0 of the program is not yet available (release soon), but 
     the new User Guide is applicable to the current version.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

**** Due to bandwidth problems, especially across the Atlantic and to
     the Pacific Rim, I'm looking for places that would be prepared to
act 
     as mirror sites for the NAOMI distribution (you need an anonymous 
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     If you are interested in doing this, please e-mail me at:
 
              smb@bioch.ox.ac.uk

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******  What is NAOMI ? *******************

NAOMI is a computer program system for studying 3-D structures of
proteins.

NAOMI is available free of charge for academic users.

NAOMI Version 2.4c is available as of now from the NAOMI Web site at:

    http://www.ocms.ox.ac.uk/~smb/Software/N_details/naomi.html

or via anonymous ftp

     ftp://nmrz.ocms.ox.ac.uk/pub/smb/naomi  

i.e. at

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in directory pub/smb/naomi/

_____________________________________________________________________________
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I need a simple windows / win 95 program which can calculate the area
of an irregular shape into an image file (of course you need the
distance between 2 points in the image).

I have an old Dos share program (Improces) but I am not satisfied by
it.

Any help would be extremely useful

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do some of u know where is the web page of the presentation of thje 
Cyrillic software? 
Cona some of u help me to find out if there is a new release of the 
biosys software? of how can I get in touch with the ones who did it? 

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Some one was asking about software for presentations...

On 25 Sep 1996, Janne Saarela wrote:

> 
> Introduction
> 
> Plasmid Processor is a simple tool for plasmid presentation for scientific and
> educational purposes. It features both circular and linear DNA, user
> defined restriction sites, genes and multiple cloning site. In addition you 
> can manipulate plasmid by inserting and deleting fragments. Created drawings 
> can be copied to clipboard or saved to disk for later use. Printing from 
> withing program is also supported. 
> 
> Plasmid Processor is freeware, so you can use and distribute it freely. 
> 
> You can download full executable version of Plasmid Processor 1.02 for Windows
> (tm) at URL
> 
> http://www.uku.fi/~kiviraum/plasmid/plasmid.html
> 
> ( plasp102.zip (239k). )
> 
> 
> Authors
> 
> Plasmid Processor program was created during a programming project course
> organized by the Department of Computer Sciences and Applied Mathematics,
> University of Kuopio, Finland 1995-1996. The program was made for the
> Department of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, University of Kuopio, 
> which owns the copyrights of the program. 
> 
> Programming team: T. Kivirauma, P. Oikari and J.Saarela.
> 
> For further information please contact the authors by e-mail, plasmid@uku.fi. 
> Any comment on program is greatly appreciated. 
> 
> --
> Janne Saarela
> BIOTECHNOLOGY, BSc, PhD student
> University of Kuopio, FINLAND
> Email:   saarela@messi.uku.fi
> WWW: http://www.uku.fi/~saarela/ 
> 
> 
> 

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Hello,

I plan to attend the Pacific Symposium on Biocomputing January 6-9 in Hawaii.
Unfortunately my budget is a bit limited and it is high season there at this
time. So I am looking for someone who would like to share a room/appartment or
the like with me during this period (~ January 3-11). Any other hints are
appreciated as well.

Regards,
   Christoph Gartmann


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zinc (zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu) wrote:
> 2) more importantly, i would really like to hear success stories from
>    anyone who has compiled FORTRAN code under Linux, especially the
>    type of software mentioned in the subject.  if you know it, please
>    tell me what you had to do to get it to work and what your system
>    configuration is.

My Fortran sucks, but I got both Molscript and the Raster3D package to
compile under Linux.

I use f2c-960315-2.tar.gz together with a f77 frontend (actually it's only
a few lines in perl) written by Thomas Koenig. I tried g77, but I gave
up after a day or so.

--Cornelius.

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hello again,

i have been gathering a pretty good list of software that compiles and
runs under Linux.  many of the structure programs are in FORTRAN.  i
have a couple of questions about this...

1) is FORTRAN still better than C for this sort of thing or is it just
   a result of many xtallographers being familiar with FORTRAN?

2) more importantly, i would really like to hear success stories from
   anyone who has compiled FORTRAN code under Linux, especially the
   type of software mentioned in the subject.  if you know it, please
   tell me what you had to do to get it to work and what your system
   configuration is.

i will be posting a list of software to this newsgroup as well as
making it nifty html in the coming week.

thanks,

- -patrick finerty
biochem grad student, u of utah

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here's the current list.  i spent most of today at the console
screwing with damned FORTRAN compilations - not something i enjoy.
anyway, thanks to the following people for their additions:

francis@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (B.F. Francis Ouellette)
Ashok Aiyar <aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu>
gilbertd@chipmunk.bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)

i will be converting the file to html some point this week.  since i
am having a difficult type focussing at this time, it will have to
wait.  if anyone tests this code and finds my observations to be
mistaken, please mail me (i'm sure you will :) ).

also, the text file is available from my web page, just not in html.
see http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu/~zinc/linux/linux.html for a link.

- -patrick finerty
biochem grad student, u of utah

==========================================================================


this site seems to have a lot of stuff:
ftp://nic.funet.fi:/pub/sci/molbio/emblmirror/unix/ 

this web pages lists quite bit of software as well:
http://mbisg2.sbc.man.ac.uk/gradschool/bioinf/prot.html


a lot of these are in FORTRAN so how well they compile is probably due
to how good the fortran support on a system is...

if i mention that i compiled or tested any of this stuff you might
want to know my system config.  generally, i keep zifi very
up-to-date, using linux/Documentation/Changes as a guide.  

here is my current config:

		Linux 2.1.1
		libc 5.4.7
		gcc 2.7.2
		g77-0.5.18.bin.tgz installed
		f2c-960717.elf.tgz
=======
something called VMD (Visual Molecular Dynamics) is almost ported: 
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/ 

=======

Molden	- Molden is a package for displaying Molecular Density from the
	  Ab Initio packages GAMESS-UK , GAMESS-US and GAUSSIAN and
	  the Semi-Empirical packages Mopac/Ampac
	- main program is in fortran X-win driver in C
	- ftp://ftp.caos.kun.nl/pub/molgraph/molden

info at http://www.caos.kun.nl/~schaft/molden/molden.html

this compiled and ran on my system using the g77-0.5.18.bin.tgz
package from sunsite.  it took a ton of memory to compile - about 25
MB at one point so you should have some serious swap space or if asked
i'll make a binary available (my libc is prob too recent for most
people).  if you install the g77-0.5.18.bin.tgz package be sure to
link g77 to f77 because that's what make tries to use.  pretty cool. 

=======
RasMol	- displays pdb files, writes a variety of output formats.
	- current version is 2.6beta, written in C
	- ftp://ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk/pub/rasmol
	- ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/biology/

i have used the beta version extensively under Linux.  it works like a
charm.  i did not encounter any bugs.  to compile for a 16 bpp
display, you must hack the Makefile produced with xmkmf.  change this
line: DEPTHDEF = -DEIGHTBIT to DEPTHDEF = -DSIXTEENBIT.  i did not
have luck just changing the value in rasmol.h as per the INSTALL
instructions. 

=======
MOLMOL	- MOLMOL is a molecular graphics program for displaying,
	  analyzing, and manipulating the three-dimensional structure
	  of biological macromolecules, with special emphasis on the
	  study of protein or DNA structures determined by NMR
	- version 2.2.0
	- ftp://ftp.mol.biol.ethz.ch/pub/software/MOLMOL
	- ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/biology/

requires motif to compile and ksh shell to run the script.  a binary
is available on sunsite (or mirrors). the binary works just fine on my
system.  if you use the binary, you also need to get the
molmol-2.2.0-doc.tgz file as well. be sure to move the binary to the
same place the doc files were unpacked.  run the install script and
then run the molmol script.

=======
XtalView- XtalView is a complete package for solving a macromolecular
	  crystal structure by isomorphous replacement, including
	  building the molecular model.
	- version ?, in fortran (crystallographers love fortran).  
	  have to sign a license to get source but not for binaries 

	- http://www.sdsc.edu/CCMS/Packages/XTALVIEW/

it looks like binaries are avail for Linux...(according to the above
page) but i didn't try to get any.

=======
WhatIf	- WHAT IF is a versatile protein structure analysis program
	  that can be used for mutant prediction, structure
	  verification, molecular graphics, etc. 
	- version ?, in FORTRAN
	- http://swift.embl-heidelberg.de/whatif/

licensed for a small fee to academics...

=======
Procheck- Checks the stereochemical quality of a protein structure,
	  producing a number of PostScript plots analysing its overall
	  and residue-by-residue geometry.  
	- version 3.4.3, written in FORTRAN
http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/~roman/procheck/procheck.html

obtain source from:
ftp://128.40.46.11/pub/procheck/tar3_4/procheck.tar.Z 

this is more fortran fun and games.  this would not compile with g77
as i ran out of memory at about 70 MB...

however, using the f2c package it compiled.  it seems to work ok.

another note, it took a really, really, really, really, long damned
time for 'clean' to compile.  i just went home...

=======
MOPAC	- you have to order this or something.  i couldn't find source
	  or much info.  any WWW search will bring up a ridiculous
	  number of online html manuals though.
	- ftp://129.79.74.206/

=======
i heard the GAMESS programs compile under Linux but i did not try them
as you have to go through a little effort to get them...

US version
GAMESS	- The General Atomic and Molecular Electronic Structure
	  System is a general ab initio quantum chemistry package.
	- version ?, written in ?
	- http://www.msg.ameslab.gov/GAMESS

site license is free to everyone but must sign a form... 

UK version
GAMESS	- GAMESS--UK is a general purpose ab initio molecular
	  electronic structure program for performing SCF- and
	  MCSCF-gradient calculations, together with a variety of
	  techniques for post Hartree Fock calculations. 
	- version ?, written in ?
	- http://gserv1.dl.ac.uk/CCP/CCP1/gamess.html

=======
stuff from ncbi

database searching tools (for remote database queries)

the ncbi package...

linux binary of the network database search tools:
ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/network/blast2/
this includes blastp, blastn, tlbastn, tblastx etc.  works like a
charm under cron control for regular database searching...

this requires the network Entrez program to be configured, get a linux
binary here:  ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/network/linux.tar.Z

=======
sequin	- ncbi's "new" sequence submission/editing tool
	- version ?, written in C
	- ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sequin/linux.tar.Z
	- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Sequin/index.html

this compiles and runs just fine on my system.

=======
fasta	- database search tool
	- version ?, written in C
	- ftp.virginia.edu/pub/fasta/fasta30t6.shar.Z

used default makefile but changed THR_CC= to be blank then 'make
sall'. 
=======
RNA folding related software:

Viena RNA package - various calculations of RNA structure
	- version 1.1b, written in C
	- ftp://ftp.itc.univie.ac.at/pub/RNA/ViennaRNA-1.1b.tar.gz 

compiles fine under Linux but Makefile needs tweaking (hell, i managed
to get it to work...)

=======
naview	- An improved algorithm for the display of nucleic acid
	  secondary structures 
	- version ?, written in C
	- ftp://snark.wustl.edu/pub/naview.tar.Z
	- http://www.ibc.wustl.edu/~zuker/ref/BRUR88.html

this compiles fine under Linux but i haven't used it.

=======
SeqPup - sequence editor and analysis program.  includes links to
	 network services and external analysis programs.
	- version ?, written in C, binary provided
	- ftp://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/molbio/seqpup/
	  unix/linux-i86-elf/
	- ftp://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/util/dclap/source/

does not seem completely stable...

=======
tacg	- restriction site analysis program
	- version ?, written in C
	- ftp://mamba.bio.uci.edu/pub/tacg/

works on plain text files with sequence in them...

source code compiled fine.  the provide binary in the bin dist is
a.out (QMAGIC).

=======
SignalScal - scan for transcription factor binding sites
           - version 4.07, written in C, compiles fine
           - ftp://biosci.umn.edu/pub/sigscan/unix

this works great on my system...
it's a good idea to read this file:
ftp://biosci.umn.edu/pub/sigscan/unix/readme.unix 

=======
PIMA	- pattern induced multiple sequence alignment
	- version 1.40, written in C, compiles fine
	- ftp://gc.bcm.tmc.edu/pub/software/pima

ftp://gc.bcm.tmc.edu/pub/software/pima/README

passes builin tests just fine after compilation.

=======
Predator - structural prediction based on multiple alignments
	 - version 1.0, written in C, compiles fine
         - ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/unix/predator

output on my Linux box was identical to output on an SGI using the
precompiled binary for IRIX and the binary i compiled.

=======
ClustalW - pairwise and multiple alignments
         - version 1.60, written in C, compiles fine
         - ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/unix

tested it, works fine on my Linux system.

=======
Seqsee - protein sequence analysis package
       - version 1.2, written in C, compiles fine
       - available upon request from
	 seqsee@procyon.biochem.ualberta.ca


=======
Pratt	- pattern discovery in sets of unaligned sequences
	- version 2.0, written in C, minor changes
	- ftp://ftp.ii.uib.no/pub/bio/Pratt/Pratt2.tar
	- http://www.ii.uib.no/~inge/Pratt.html

this segfaults but only apparently after a run has finished.
otherwise appears ok...

=======

Primer3 - PCR primer design
        - release 0.1, written in C, compiles fine
        - ftp://genome.wi.mit.edu

all tests passed just fine on my system.

=======
GDE	- genetic data environment
	- release ?, written in ?
	- gopher://megasun.bch.umontreal.ca:70/11/GDE/ 

binaries are a.out (ZMAGIC), requires (a.out) xview libraries. 
i tried to compile this myself but not very hard - it wouldn't work.

==============================================================================


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In article <5383lj$jd8@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>,
krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de (Cornelius Krasel) wrote:

> More stuff that runs under Linux:
> 
> - the fasta package (sequence comparison)

Try this:    ftp://ftp.virginia.edu/pub/fasta/


> - molscript (makes schematics of protein structures; Fortran, I had to 
>   patch it a little to make it work with f2c; contact Per Kraulis to
>   get the source).

Here is his email address:       krpx@sgikrpe.sto.pharmacia.se


> - raster3d (raytraces molscript figures; a mixture of Fortran and C).
> 
> Sorry, I don't know the sites where I got them from.
> 
> --Cornelius.



I will add that Amber runs under Linux.  Here is the URL:

http://www.amber.ucsf.edu/


T. Chyau Liang
U Texas-houston

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In article <kofoid-0410961149210001@news.cc.utah.edu>,
kofoid@biology.utah.edu (Eric Kofoid) wrote:

> Can someone point me to a source of downloadable structural images of
> various biomolecules? I'm especially interested in space-filling or ribbon
> structures of cobalamin and NADH. These will be used to decorate web pages
> and journal papers. I'm not interested in anything requiring a Java applet
> to view, just simple stuff in GIF, JPEG, PICT or TIFF format.

Go to PDB.  They have losts of pictures ready.  Alternatively, you can
download the pdb files and then generate any picture your like with
freeware such as RasMol.

PDB         http://www.pdb.bnl.gov/
RasMol       http://www.umass.edu/microbio/rasmol/getras.htm

have fun.

T. Chyau Liang
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From: Ewan Birney <birney@sanger.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Blast search help needed.
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 14:09:48 +0100
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To: Chris Kafer <ckafer@iastate.edu>

Chris Kafer wrote:
> 
> mperr1@hamon.swmed.edu (Michael Perry) wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reply but I tried that first.  What it appears to do is
> compare the entire sequence (as if it were a single ORF) in all 6
> frames.  What I would like to do is have it blast the real ORFs >30
> amino acids individually.  When I blast them  manually, it brings back
> different hits than a blastx search of the entire sequence.
> 
> As an example, when I blast one of the 200 aa ORFs it returns an EST
> clone.  When I blast the entire sequence, of which this ORF is just a
> part, it doesnt show up.  Hopefully I explained that clearly!
> 

You probably already realise this, but the fact that it comes
up in ones search and not the other is "meaningful" in the 
BLAST view: what you have done is 'manually' trim one sequence
to a region, specialising in one particular region, and therefore
hits against that region now get a lower probability of being
random. [what I am saying is that this is what you expect].

[now for the plug]:
Although it does not do all of what you want, PairWise and
SearchWise can run a DNA query against a protein database allowing
for Frameshifts and to a certain extent, introns. The DNA2DNA
approach which you want we are developing but it is not released
yet. You can get PairWise and SearchWise from

http://www.sanger.ac.uk/~birney/wise/topwise.html

ewan

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From: P.W.Gould@liverpool.ac.uk (Paul Gould)
Subject: Re: Dawkins' Netspinner/Watchmaker
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In <elysium-0510961410330001@sea-ts3-p71.wolfenet.com> Sonya wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can find Netspinner and/or Watchmaker available
> for download for the Mac?

AFAIK, 'Blind Watchmaker' is a commercial program, so I doubt that you'd be 
able to download it from anywhere. I have the address of a UK distributor for 
it, if that's of any help to you:
	Software Production Associates Ltd., 
	PO Box 59, 
	Tewkesbury, 
	Glos., GL20 6AB
	UK
	tel: +44 1684 833700, fax: +44 1684 833718

This information was extracted from the CTI Biology Resource Directory 
database, which may be searched and browsed via the web. See the Publications 
section of our web pages at <URL:http://www.liv.ac.uk/ctibiol.html>.

Regards,

Paul
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From: "Dr. Duncan Clark" <duncan@genesys.demon.co.uk>
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I do not wish to start any flame wars about OS's but there has been a
lot in the computer press in the last few months about Apple's problems
with market share, finance etc. What happens if they go bust? Sure it is
unlikely but who knows? I can't see Microsoft or Intel going bust.

Regarding use of PC's in the UK. What is the situation in the rest of
the EEC? I can just see it now, a binding European directive that we
must all use a new EEC OS! But seriously if we over here are starting to
bias ourselves away from the Mac OS then given the purchasing power of
the EEC as a whole, the science software authors will have to take note
or exclude themselves from that market. 

Duncan
    
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: Alexy Eroshkin <eroshkin@vector.nsk.su>
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Subject: Re: Protein Viewer
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From: eroshkin@vector.nsk.su
Subject: Re: Protein Viewer

> From blduncch@aol.com Sun Oct  6 12:31:01 1996

> Where can I download a good protein viewer for IBM-PC, either DOS or Win
> 3.1?
>
> I want to be able to read Brookhaven files and to add colors to selected
> amino acid residues.

You can find this and more in ProAnWin (for Windows):
ftp://ftp.bionet.nsc.ru/pub/biology/vector/proanwin.dem/paw$.exe
ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/dos/proanwin

and in ProAnalyst (for DOS)
ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/dos/proanalyst/
ftp://ftp.bionet.nsc.ru/pub/biology/vector/proanaly.dem/panalys$.exe
ftp://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/molbio/ibmpc/panalys1.exe

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From: Ewan Birney <birney@sanger.ac.uk>
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Subject: PairWise and SearchWise new release
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**** PairWise and SearchWise 1.6.2 ****
         ***        Beta-Release           ***


        PairWise and SearchWise version 1.6 has been released for
general use. Some of the improvements include:

        o On-the-fly parsing of EMBL format databases to provide only
genomic or only cDNA sequences during database searching

        o Configurable SRS linking in the HTML output

        o HTML output of the alignments

        A considerable number of bugs have also been removed.


        For people who have not used PairWise and SearchWise, they are
programs which can trace a match of a protein sequence or a protein
profile to a DNA sequence allowing for frameshifts and intron in the
DNA sequence. This work has been recently published in the July issue
of NAR

        "PairWise and SearchWise: finding the optimal alignment
in a simultaneous comparison of a protein profile against all DNA
translation frames" Ewan Birney, Julie Thompson and Toby Gibson
Nucleic Acids Res., 24 2730-2739, 1996 

        There is a web site at

        http://www.sanger.ac.uk/~birney/wise/topwise.html

and the source code, and hopefully a collection of binaries are
available at

        ftp.sanger.ac.uk /pub/birney/wise

The WWW site has an extensive series of help/tutorial and installation
files to guide you towards making use of PairWise and SearchWise.  I
would read some of the files first before downloading.

(NB: for current users, notice that the OCMS Web site is no longer
maintained. The Sanger centre site will be the main site for at least
the next 3 years - please update any links you have).

        There is a mailing list for people who would like to be in
closer contact with releases, and for any other information, please
email me at

        birney@sanger.ac.uk

Have fun!

ewan birney

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From: martin@tutor.oc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de (Martin Kroeker)
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Subject: Re: science software (mol biol/biochem/biology) under Linux
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zinc (zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu) wrote:
> i'm attempting to compile a list of software that either people have
> claimed runs under Linux or that is known to run under Linux for the

> XtalView
> it looks like binaries are avail for Linux...(according to the above
Linux binaries are definitely available.

> MOPAC
> i searched all over for this - couldn't find the source!  only a ton
Look on kekule.osc.edu, you should find sources for mopac6 and the pd
version of mopac7 there. (If i remember correctly, there was also a linux
binary of mopac7 there, but once you've taken care of some VAXisms in the
source, compilation is no problem either).

> i heard the GAMESS programs compile under Linux but i did not try them
Yes, GAMESS runs on Linux.

There is also MOLMOL from Wuthrich's group:
http://www.mol.biol.ethz.ch/wuthrich/software/molmol/

and finally a shameless plug for our PIMM molecular mechanics code,
http://130.83.122.2/TZ/AKLindner/pimm_e.html
(free for academics, but you need to email us for a license and pointer
to the source).

Martin 
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From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar)
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Subject: Re: Linux mol biol/biochem/etc software - compiling fortran apps
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On 06 Oct 1996 11:33:59 -0600, zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> wrote:

>1) is FORTRAN still better than C for this sort of thing or is it just
>   a result of many xtallographers being familiar with FORTRAN?

Fortran is just what a lot of people learnt.  C is a relatively new 
language. (Yes, I consider 20 years to be relatively new).

>2) more importantly, i would really like to hear success stories from
>   anyone who has compiled FORTRAN code under Linux, especially the
>   type of software mentioned in the subject.  if you know it, please
>   tell me what you had to do to get it to work and what your system
>   configuration is.

I haven't had particularly good luck with f2c, somewhat better luck
with g77.  There is one really good commercial Fortran 77 compiler
for Linux (from Absoft).  There are a couple packages that don't
go anywhere with f2c or g77 that do compile with Absoft's compiler.

Later,
Ashok
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Department of Oncology            email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu
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From: tliang@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu (T. Chyau Liang)
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Subject: Re: Protein Viewer
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In article <538hp4$os@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, blduncch@aol.com (BLDUNCCH) wrote:

> Where can I download a good protein viewer for IBM-PC, either DOS or Win
> 3.1?
> 
> I want to be able to read Brookhaven files and to add colors to selected
> amino acid residues.

RasMol is a good one and is available for PC, Mac, and Unix


http://www.umass.edu/microbio/rasmol/getras.htm

good luck.

T. Chyau Liang
U. Texsas-houston

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Hi,
I didn't quite understand what kind of Cyrillic do you need.
I have some Cyrillic fonts for Windows and Cyrillic drivers 
for DOS, available upon request. Cyrillic Web sites are almost
all in Russia.
Regards,
Andrey.

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In article <3258829B.C70@iastate.edu>,
An-Ping Hsia <hsia@iastate.edu> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I want to transfer data from HyperCard(2.2) to FileMaker(3.0). I tried
>saving my HyperCard files in other format (like Excel) and import into
>Fi