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From: ReddD@AURORABIO.COM ("Doug Redd")
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Subject: RE: help!!!!
Date: 2 Nov 1998 07:04:58 -0800
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I have one of these cd writers and had similar problems until I installed the firmware update available from HP's web site.  I have not had any problems since.  The site is http://www.hp.com/isgsupport/cdr/70index.html#Firmware.

// Doug Redd

-----Original Message-----
From: ALEX GARCIA [mailto:acad@accefyn.org.co]
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 1998 8:51 PM
To: bio-soft@net.bio.net
Subject: help!!!!


I am using a HP cd writer plus (7200 series) and I am having a lot of
troubles!!!!! lots of lots of troubles, I save in a cd using the cd
writer, save lets say for example the netscape installator and some pdb
files in a new CD, everything seems to be ok until there, I try to read
the cd with my cd rom and then troubles start!!! does not allow me to
copy the netscape installator in the hd form the usual cd rom device but
if I try to do it from the cd writer it works just fine, the problem
only presents with some files, the netscape installator for example, or
some pdb files, not all of pdb just some of them, what can I do? please
mail me ASAP




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From: Hans Blom <j.a.blom@ele.tue.nl>
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Subject: REQ: ST-segment analysis software
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:05:51 +0100
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REQ: ST-segment analysis algorithm

Outdated, now that every decent monitor contains one? One of our
M.Sc. students works on a multi-signal data mining application to
reliably detect sudden heart failure in intensive care patients.
We have lots of ECG recordings, but lack the ST-segment depression/
elevation info of these data.So we need an algorithm that extracts
it. In fact, we designed such an algorithm ourselves, some 15 years
ago, but it must have gotten lost.

Who can help us out? Do you know of public domain software for
ST-segment analysis? Or do you have something floating around that
you are willing to share with us for this project? Standard non-
disclosure conditions etc. apply, of course.

Other info: most of our ECGs are sampled at 100 or at 200 Hz.
Platform: PC. We would prefer a DOS exe, or Pascal or C source
code.

Any info is appreciated.

Hans Blom, Ph.D.
associate professor
Eindhoven University of Technology (http://www.tue.nl)
Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Medical Engineering Group
j.a.blom@ele.tue.nl

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Nov 01 22:00:00 1998
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From: DEernisse@fullerton.edu (Doug Eernisse)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Mac Screen-capture, was Re: Exporting images of Macaw
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:15:32 -0800
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> Um, I'm not a Mac newbie, having used them for about 7 years, but whereas
> I knew about pretzel-shift-3, I'd never seen Caps Lock-pretzel-shift-4,
> which lets you snap the portion of the screen you want.
> 
> Thanks for the tip, Jerry!
> 
> 
> :      Until now I have used the Shareware program, FlashIt, which has
> : the advantage that only a portion of the screen need be saved.
> 
> See above.
> 
> So when did this come into effect?  I'm using 8.0 (UK).
> 
> R
> 

I think it was OS 7.6. Actually, I was having trouble with Flashit
and OS 8.1 so have started using the built-in keystroke
(ctl-shift-cmd-4) for user-defined screen captures. The Flashit
feature that allows setting the "magnification" of screen capture
is not possible, though, I don't think. 

Note that a few programs, like ClustalX, must draw to the screen differently,
so that screen capture doesn't seem work in them. Try it and see. You
will get an out of memory complaint no matter how small of a portion of
the alignment you try to capture. ClustalX does allow a color postscript
export, though. I thought there was another way to export a portion
of the alignment to clipboard but can't seem to do it presently.

Macaw shouldn't be affected by this problem.

-- 
Doug Eernisse
Department of Biological Science
California State University
Fullerton, CA 92834-6850 USA
<http://biology.fullerton.edu/people/faculty/doug-eernisse/>


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From: Rich Dudley <rdudley+@pitt.edu>
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Subject: Re: help!!!!
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:29:43 -0500
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ALEX GARCIA wrote:

> I am using a HP cd writer plus (7200 series) and I am having a lot of
> troubles!!!!! lots of lots of troubles, I save in a cd using the cd
> writer, save lets say for example the netscape installator and some pdb
> files in a new CD, everything seems to be ok until there, I try to read
> the cd with my cd rom and then troubles start!!! does not allow me to
> copy the netscape installator in the hd form the usual cd rom device but
> if I try to do it from the cd writer it works just fine, the problem
> only presents with some files, the netscape installator for example, or
> some pdb files, not all of pdb just some of them, what can I do? please
> mail me ASAP

Alex--

I have an older CD-ROM drive in one computer that just won't read my CD-Rs.
However, two computers with newer CD-ROM drives read that CD-Rs with no
problem.  They are multisession CD-R, recorded for the PC world.  I also
made an audio CD on the machine, and some audio CD players can't play it at
all.  I think it may be just a CD-R phenomenon.

rich
--
--- --- --- -- -- -- --- --- ---
Richard J. Dudley (rdudley+@pitt.edu)
Research Specialist V
Dept. of Cell Biology and Physiology
University of Pittsburgh
http://www.cbp.pitt.edu
---> search BIONET archives at http://www.bio.net <---



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From: Bo Bergmann <120010312330@post5.tele.dk>
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Subject: HPLC-WIZARD beta 1.0
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 01:52:44 +0100
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Finally, the beta version 1.0 of HPLC-WIZARD is ready for evaluation. 
Get to our home page at http://home5.inet.tele.dk/daller/index.htm
to download the beta version.

HPLC-WIZARD is  a Microsoft® Windows 95/98/NT application designed for 
fast and
easy calculation of amino acid distributions from HPLC - chromatograms. 
In contrast
to the existing method of numerical integration, which suffers from 
systematical errors
due to inaccurate partion of overlapping peaks and improper treatment of 
the background
function,  HPLC-WIZARD calculates an amino acid distribution by 
modelling the HPLC- chromatograms
by using different density functions to model the peaks and a background 
function based
on Principal Component Analysis to model the background.

In the evaluation of appropiate candidate functions to model the peaks 
in the HPLC - chromatograms,
it was found necessary to develop tools to estimate how good a candidate 
function was able to model
the chromatograms in a visual as well as statistical aspect. As these 
tools are made available to
the user means that, apart from calculation of amino acid distributions 
from HPLC-chromatograms, 
HPLC - WIZARD offers the following other important features:

1. The functionality of a MDI-application (Multiple Document Interface). 
Which 
   makes simultanous examination of several HPLC-chromatograms possible.

2. An user friendly environment making it easy to navigate around in the 
HPLC -
   chromatograms. This implies zoom, scroll, clip and stretch functions 
and
   the ability to draw chromatograms in numerous ways.

3. A function gallery, in which the user can select among several 
density
   functions to find the best function to model the peaks in a specific
   chromatogram.

4. Access to view and edit any parameter in the system. This implies 
e.g. editing
   or restraining individual peak and backgrund function parameters.

5. Graphical insertion, modification and minimization of peak functions, 
making it
   possible to model peaks with underlying structures or huge overlaps.

6. Implementation of joint refinement to handle response overflow.

7. Three different quantification methods. This involves a fully 
automatic weighted
   averaging of the compounds in up to 10 chromatograms.

8. Well-arranged presentation of results on screen as well as printer.

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Finally, the beta version 1.0 of HPLC-WIZARD is ready for evaluation. 
Get to our home page at http://home5.inet.tele.dk/daller/index.htm
to download the beta version.

HPLC-WIZARD is  a Microsoft® Windows 95/98/NT application designed for 
fast and
easy calculation of amino acid distributions from HPLC - chromatograms. 
In contrast
to the existing method of numerical integration, which suffers from 
systematical errors
due to inaccurate partion of overlapping peaks and improper treatment of 
the background
function,  HPLC-WIZARD calculates an amino acid distribution by 
modelling the HPLC- chromatograms
by using different density functions to model the peaks and a background 
function based
on Principal Component Analysis to model the background.

In the evaluation of appropiate candidate functions to model the peaks 
in the HPLC - chromatograms,
it was found necessary to develop tools to estimate how good a candidate 
function was able to model
the chromatograms in a visual as well as statistical aspect. As these 
tools are made available to
the user means that, apart from calculation of amino acid distributions 
from HPLC-chromatograms, 
HPLC - WIZARD offers the following other important features:

1. The functionality of a MDI-application (Multiple Document Interface). 
Which 
   makes simultanous examination of several HPLC-chromatograms possible.

2. An user friendly environment making it easy to navigate around in the 
HPLC -
   chromatograms. This implies zoom, scroll, clip and stretch functions 
and
   the ability to draw chromatograms in numerous ways.

3. A function gallery, in which the user can select among several 
density
   functions to find the best function to model the peaks in a specific
   chromatogram.

4. Access to view and edit any parameter in the system. This implies 
e.g. editing
   or restraining individual peak and backgrund function parameters.

5. Graphical insertion, modification and minimization of peak functions, 
making it
   possible to model peaks with underlying structures or huge overlaps.

6. Implementation of joint refinement to handle response overflow.

7. Three different quantification methods. This involves a fully 
automatic weighted
   averaging of the compounds in up to 10 chromatograms.

8. Well-arranged presentation of results on screen as well as printer.

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From: billotte@erinet.com (William G. Billotte)
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Subject: Re: Image Quantitation
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 21:33:24 -0500
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I would suggest trying NIH Image.  It is available for free from the NIH
website.  It is available for the Mac or windoze.

Bill

In article <363576F9.7AB7@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu>, gizmo@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu
wrote:

> Dear Colleague,
> 
> Does anyone has or know free Image Quantitation program(s) which can
> handle scanned images of Xrays. 386 Molec.Dynamics we have is very slow
> and picky.
> 
> Thank you for help.
> 
> Alex

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     _________________________________________________________________

                                    CLONEIT(tm)

   AN FREE ANSI-C PROGRAM FINDING SUB-CLONING STRATEGIES, IN-FRAME DELETIONS
         AND FRAMESHIFTS USING RESTRICTION ENZYMES AND DNA POLYMERASES.

   LINDENBAUM Pierre (1998) Bioinformatics/CABIOS Vol.14;5,1998 pp465-466
     _________________________________________________________________


 What is CloneIt ?


       Molecular biologists often have to sub-clone plasmidic vectors: a
       DNA plasmid is cleaved and ligated with an exogen DNA fragment
       previously excised from an other plasmid. The necessary cuts are
       achieved by restriction enzymes which then must be carefully choosen
       in order to minimize the steps required to obtain the desired
       molecule. During the selection of those enzymes, the main
       difficulties encountered come from the knowldege of:

          + the enzymes' characteristics
          + the localization of the cuts within the sequence
          + the complementarity between the protuding ends
          + the possible self ligation of the vector
          + the use of modifying DNA polymerases that generate blunt ends
          + the constraint to clone the insert in-frame with a vector
            sequence
          + the use of partial digestions
          + the creation of a stop codon after the ligation.
          + the buffers and the temperatures compatibilities.

   This exercise takes a long time even with a computorized help of the
       classic DNA analysis softwares that only
       help the user by localizing restriction sites that are present a
       few times in a plasmid sequence. All combinations cannot be
       humanly checked by the scientist, so a simple cloning strategy can
       be missed by the experimenter.
       We developed a program that quickly finds in-frame deletions using
       restriction enzymes and frameshifts (using digestion, fill-in and
       ligation) in a plasmid sequence, Then, as the main functions and
       procedures were being developed, we have extended the capacities
       of the program to find strategies to sub-clone a fragment from a
       plasmid to another vector while still controling the problems
       described above. This program is not an expert system, as it does
       not "learn" the logical steps accomplished by the biologist and it
       does not have to be accompanied in its search: it just runs an
       algorithm that explores all the possible enzymes combinations that
       could be used to clone the molecules.
       This program called CloneIt , written in ANSI C, provides a useful
       aid for any molecular biologist who wants to quickly find
       sub-cloning, in-frame deletions, frameshifts strategies, which
       would otherwise be difficult to discover.

       This program handle parameters such as
          + usage of a phosphatase (CIP)
          + usage of modifying polymerases that blunt overhanged ends
          + partial digestions
          + 5' or/and 3' in-frame ligation
          + digestion post ligation
          + digestion to direct insert
          + detection of stop codon after ligation
          + handle temperatures and buffers.
          + Compare 2 sequences from the point of view of restriction
            sites.
          + Display a restriction map.
          + Translation of restriction enzymes databases.
          + Management of large cloning projects.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

   CloneIt source code

        The source code is freely available at

        http://locus.jouy.inra.fr/soft/cloneit/cloneit.html


If you are interested in being kept informed directly about CloneIt , please 
send me your e-mail address.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Samples
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SubCloning
..............................................................................

CloneIt V1.0 has found a solution:

 Digest VECTOR with EcoRI [G^AATTC] (878) and Sal I [g^tcgac] (894).
 5'  --G.CCG.G/AA.TT C.CCG.GGG.ATC.CG/T.CGA. CCT.GCA.GCC.AAG--  3'
 3'  --C.GGC.C TT.AA/G.GGC.CCC.TAG.GC A.GCT./GGA.CGT.CGG.TTC--  5'
 NH2     P   E    F    P   G   I   R    R   P    A   A   K   .COOH

Digest first with EcoRI .Then treat with Klenow DNA polymerase.Finally digest
with Sal I .

 Digest INSERT with Sca I [AGT^ACT] (1034) and Sal I [g^tcgac] (3605).

 5' --AT.AAA.GT/ A.CTT.TCA.AAG.AAA.G--  --TA.GAG./TCG.A CC.TGC.AGG.CAT.G--  3'
 3' --TA.TTT.CA/ T.GAA.AGT.TTC.TTT.C--  --AT.CTC. AGC.T/GG.ACG.TCC.GTA.C--  3'
 NH2     K   V     L   S   K   K   E --  --  E   S    T    C   R   H   A .COOH

Treat with T4 DNA polymerase.

Sites wil be in frame ligated in 5'.

The first stop codon detected BEFORE the EcoRI site (878) is localized at
position 428 on vector. The first stop codon detected AFTER the Sca I
site (1034) is localized at position 3558 on insert.

Digestion post-ligation:  no enzyme was found.

..............................................................................
        Finding in-frame deletions
..............................................................................

 CloneIt has found an in-frame deletion:

  Digest INSERT with Bcl I [t^gatca] (1427) and PstI [CTGCA^G] (3611).
5'  --TG.TAT./GAT.C AG.GTT.CTT.ACT.G--  --CG.ACC. TGC.A/GG.CAT.GCA.AGC.T--  3'
3'  --AC.ATA. CTA.G/TC.CAA.GAA.TGA.C--  --GC.TGG./ACG.T CC.GTA.CGT.TCG.A--  5'
NH2      Y   D    Q    V   L   T   E --  --  T   C    R    H   A   S   F .COOH

 Treat with T4 DNA polymerase.

  Cloning boxes boundaries :[880-1155] [3359-3634].
        Original: 5' ================================================ 3'
        Deletion: 5' =========......................................= 3'
        Equivalent to a  deletion of 728 amino acids [79 %]

Digestion post-ligation: BamHI Sal I Acc I Nsi I .

The first stop codon detected AFTER the PstI site (3611) is localized at
position 3639 on insert.

Translated truncated sequence:...
NSSSVPGAIKGSMAYRKRGARREANINNNDRMQEKDDEKQDQNNRMQLSDKVLSKKEEVV
TDSQEEIKIADEVKKSTKEESKQLEVLKTKEEHQKEIQYEILQKTIPTFEPKESILKKLE
DIKPEQAKKQTKLFRIFEPRQLPIYRANGEKELRNRTYTKLKKDTLPGDYDVREYFLNLY
DR----------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
--HASFCS...

..............................................................................
Finding frameshifts in INSERT.
..............................................................................

CloneIt  has found an Enzyme that could induce frameshift.

  Digest INSERT with AccI [gt^mkac] (1659).
  5'  --.ATC.AGT.//AT  A.CAC.ATA.AAT.GAT--  3'
  3'  --.TAG.TCA.  TA//T.GTG.TAT.TTA.CTA--  5'
  NH2    I   S   I       H   I   N   D   .COOH

Treat with Klenow DNA polymerase.
Beware : AccI [1 partial site] .

After digestion, fill-in and ligation:

  5'  .ATC.AGT.ATA.TAC.ACA.TAA.ATG 3'
  3'  .TAG.TCA.TAT.ATG.TGT.ATT.TAC 5'
  NH2  I   S   I   Y   T   *   M        COOH

        ¥ FrameShift (+ 2)
        ¥ 2 bases Added.
        ¥ Site is NOT reconstitued after ligation.
        ¥ [51 %] percentage of Insert.
        FIGURE:
                =========================
                                        | (+2)
                                        ===========================

Translated sequence:...EFELGTRGSMATFKDACYHYKRLNKLNSLVLKLGANDETRPAPMTKYKGTCL
YTNLTYCRGCALYHVCQTCSQYNRCFLDEEPHLLRMRTFKDVVTKEDIEGLLTMYETLFPINEKLVNKFINSVKQ
EYLLETYNHLLMPITLQALTINLEDNVYYIFGYYDCMEHENQTPFQFINLLEKYDKLLLDDRNFHRMSHLPVILQ
RYFSKSRFLSKGKKRLSRSDFSDNLMEDRHSPTSLMQVVRNCISiyT*...

..............................................................................
Informations
..............................................................................


Get information about Bst1107 I

INSERT Pattern
--------------
Bst1107I [GTA^TAC] (1659) p5_1 digestion.
 1 4652 pb      Bst1107I  1744 - Bst1107I  1659
 2 85 pb        Bst1107I  1659 - Bst1107I  1744
...............................................................................
.
 Prototype                :SnaI
 Microorganism            :Bacillus stearothermophilus RFL1107
 Source                   :A.A. Janulaitis
 Methylation site         :
 Commercial availability  :
        Angewandte Gentechnologie Systeme
        Fermentas AB
        Takara Shuzo Co. Ltd.
        Boehringer-Mannheim
 New England Biolabs Refs :457
...............................................................................
.
Looking for Isoschizomers. (*):Commercialy available)
        ( ) BspM90I  GTA^TAC.
        (*) BssNAI  GTA^TAC.
             also available at:
                        SibEnzyme Ltd.
        ( ) BstBSI  GTA^TAC.
        (*) BstZ17I  GTA^TAC.
             also available at:
                        New England BioLabs
        ( ) XcaI  GTA^TAC.
..............................................................................
Restriction Map
..............................................................................


                                     SACI   SALI
                               ECORI :      hincii
   styi                        acsi  :      acci         ECO52I
   NCOI                   alwi :     ECL136II            eaei
   bstdsi                xhoii :     bsp1286i            bsh1285i
MSCI           xmni      BAMHI :     banii  :           NOTI
eaei    ecorv  : vspi    alwi  :     alw21i :     HINDIII:
:  :    :      : :       ::    :     :      :     :     ::
TGGCCATGGATATCGGAATTAATTCGGATCCGAATTCGAGCTCCGTCGACAAGCTTGCGGCCGCA \ 5266
    ¥         ¥         ¥         ¥         ¥         ¥         ¥  \
ACCGGTACCTATAGCCTTAATTAAGCCTAGGCTTAAGCTCGAGGCAGCTGTTCGAACGCCGGCGT   \ 5330
T  P  T :I  S  E :L  I  R::I  R: I  R: A  P :S  T :S  L :R  P  H  ->
:A :M  D: I  G :I: N  S  D: P  N  S  S  S  V: D  K: L  A::A  A  L ->
: H: G  Y  R  N: *  F  G :S  E :F  E :L  R  R  Q  A  C  G: R  T   ->
: P: V  $  L  R: L  *  A :$  A :*  A :R  P  L  Q  E  F  A: P  T



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From: greg@franklin.burnham-inst.org (Dr. Greg Quinn)
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Subject: Protease/substrate database?
Date: 3 Nov 1998 05:56:19 GMT
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Hi;

A colleague has asked me an interesting question which I 
don't readily know the answer to since it's way out of my 
area:

Does anyone know if any lab has compiled an  
protease/substrate database or listing (at least
one that's highly up-to-date)?

Thanks for any leads or ideas.
Cheers
Greg


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From owner-software@net.bio.net Mon Nov 02 22:00:00 1998
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From: Ronglin.Wang-1@TC.UMN.EDU (Ronglin Wang)
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 Hi there.  I am trying to port Mapmaker to our Linux-based PC. Can
 anyone with experience working with Mapmaker offer me some advice?  What
 are the changes I have to make?
 
 Best regards,
 
 Ronglin Wang
 Plant Biology
 Univ of Minnesota
 
 
 


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From: greg@franklin.burnham-inst.org (Dr. Greg Quinn)
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Subject: Re: Protease/substrate database?
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Edwin ten Dam (etd@bigfoot.com) wrote:
: In article <71m5u3$j9b$1@franklin.ljcrf.edu>,
: greg@franklin.burnham-inst.org (Dr. Greg Quinn) wrote:
: 
: >Hi;
: >
: >A colleague has asked me an interesting question which I 
: >don't readily know the answer to since it's way out of my 
: >area:
: >
: >Does anyone know if any lab has compiled an  
: >protease/substrate database or listing (at least
: >one that's highly up-to-date)?
: >
: >Thanks for any leads or ideas.
: >Cheers
: >Greg
: 
: This may answer part of your query:
: 
: have a look at MEROPS, a proteinase database:
: 
: http://www.bi.bbsrc.ac.uk/Merops/Merops.htm
: 
: cheers,
: 
: edwin
: 

Edwin
This looks great; thanks very much.
Cheers
Greg

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MACBOXSHADE version 2.11 is now available from the BOXSHADE web page:

ftp://ftp.isrec.isb-sib.ch/pub/sib-isrec/boxshade/MacBoxshade/MacBoxshade_2.1.hqx


(N.B. same archive name as version 2.1, but new version!!!!)

MACBOXSHADE is a program for creating good-looking printouts from
multiple  aligned protein
or DNA sequences. The program does no alignment by itself, it has to
take as input a file
preprocessed by a multiple alignment program or a multiple file editor.

NEW in v2.11:
 fixes a long-standing, but only just discovered, bug whereby opening 
two ASCII display or two matrix display windows caused a crash 
(thanks to Dr. Todd Richmond, Carnegie Institution of Washington, for 
pointing the bug out to me).

NEW in version 2.1:

Wrote my own text display routines, so the 'current alignment' and
'Display ASCII' windows are no longer limited to 32 000 characters.

Modified the PICT display so that it would not be stuck in low memory
situations. If there is enough memory assigned to the program, you get
the nice, smooth-scrolling display as previously; if not, the program
tries to borrow more memory from unassigned RAM in your machine (if
any). If this, in turn, fails, you get a rather jerky, slow-to-scroll
display, but you DO get the display.

In these days of cheap RAM, this modification may not have been of so
much use to many people, but it irritated me, so I fixed it.

Added the option (requested by Barry Hall of University of Rochester,
NY) of
treating '~' characters as different to '-' characters. The '~'
character, introduced in GCG9, is for leading and trailing pad
characters. If the option (Shading Prefs) to ignore these pads 
is taken, then they are not counted when the consensus is being
calculated.

E.g. Consider a situation where we have

   ...KG~~~~~~
   ...KGI~~~~~
   ...KG~~~~~~
   ...KGVCNETM
   ...KEVCND~~
   ...K~~~~~~~
at the end of an alignment. Normally, with a 75% threshold value, 
the K residues would be shaded, (6/6) but the Gs would not (4/6). 
If '~' chars are ignored in counting, the G residues are shaded (4/5),
as are the V/Is (3/3) and the pairs of Cs and Ns that follow (2/2 in
each case). Personally, I am not convinced that this is the right 
way to shade the alignment, but I can see that there might be an
arguement for saying that these leading and trailing pads are of a
different nature from internal pads, and should be treated differently.
You have the option.


- Fixes a couple of outstanding bugs:

Program would crash if the last block of sequences was one residue
long, and numbering was turned on;

program would sometimes crash if there was not enough memory to draw
the PICT display;

layout of the identity/similarity matrix wasn't properly aligned in all
cases.


As always, please send any reports of bugs or other problems with
MacBoxshade to:


Michael D. Baron Ph.D.		E-mail: michael.baron@bbsrc.ac.uk
Institute for Animal Health
Ash Road
Pirbright
Surrey GU24 0NF
U.K.

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From: Steffen Moeller <moeller@ebi.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Q: Rasmol in Linux: X Error
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:56:49 +0000
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If you have the Rasmol source I'd suggest to edit the
Imakefile appropiately.

# DEPTHDEF = -DTHIRTYTWOBIT
# DEPTHDEF = -DEIGHTBIT
DEPTHDEF = -DSIXTEENBIT

Or to avoid another run of imake do the change directly
in the Makefile. I can supply you with the 16bit version
if you have any problems.

Steffen

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In article <71m5u3$j9b$1@franklin.ljcrf.edu>,
greg@franklin.burnham-inst.org (Dr. Greg Quinn) wrote:

>Hi;
>
>A colleague has asked me an interesting question which I 
>don't readily know the answer to since it's way out of my 
>area:
>
>Does anyone know if any lab has compiled an  
>protease/substrate database or listing (at least
>one that's highly up-to-date)?
>
>Thanks for any leads or ideas.
>Cheers
>Greg

This may answer part of your query:

have a look at MEROPS, a proteinase database:

http://www.bi.bbsrc.ac.uk/Merops/Merops.htm

cheers,

edwin

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*******************************************************************************
NEW in version 5.1, revision 152:

A bug which prevented sending 'long' e-mails (sequences and primer orders) has
been corrected. Apparently NCBI has changed the mail-blast program to
Gapped-BLAST. The auto-build header function has been modified to accept also
the output from Gapped blast searches when done at NCBI.

Several changes have been made to the collection of SAGE programs. I believe
that all the programs now work (Create SAGE Tag Files, SAGE Tag File Tools,
and Search With SAGE Files). Printing SAGE tag distribution histograms
may still not work with all printers (it has only been tested on a
HP LaserJet 6P)

Recording the inifile caused some problems. I hope they are now corrected.

The help file has been updated.
*******************************************************************************

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SETUP FILES:

The zip file DT_51152.zip, 7.562 Mb, contains new setup files for DNATools 5.1
revision 152. After downloading the zip file, just un-zip it and run the setup
program to start using DNATools.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATE FILES:

The zip file 51152_EXE.zip, 1.149 Mb, contains updated versions of
dnatools.exe and dnatools.hlp. If you already have DNATools installed and
want to update, you can download the revised exe and help files. Then locate
the DNATools directory on your PC and overwrite the old files. Remember to
close all programs before you replace the files. Note that it is NOT possible
to run the update files without first installing DNATools.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MANUAL/HELP:

In the absence of a manual, you have to consult the extensive context
sensitive help to get information on the various functions of DNATools.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

Please note that DNATools runs on Windows 95/98 and NT but NOT on
Windows 3.x or MACs.

A 233 MHz Pentium with at least 48 Mb of RAM is recommended if you intend
to work with more than a few files in the same project.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
REGISTRATION:

To register your copy, I need your FULL NAME and the VERSION and REVISION
numbers of your copy. DNATools will remind you 1 month before the test perion
expires. The cost of a single user licence is $100.

Future revisions will be available at the above ftp site. You can upgrade
without limitations within your 3 month test period. Thereafter, if you
decide to keep using DNATools, a licence number is required.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ABOUT DNATools:

DNATools has been developed over several years primarily inspired by my
frustrations with commercially available programs. For specific tasks - like
merging 1,000 sequences into a contig, or performing detailed analyses on
protein sequences - you still need more sophisticated (and more expensive)
programs. For the daily handling and primary analyses of sequences, I hope
you will find DNATools useful. Today, many more complex functions (e.g. mail
blast servers) are available on www. These programs in conjunction with
DNATools actually comprise a fairly comprehensive toolbox for sequence
handling and analysis.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING!

Please note that using DNATools is ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK! A great deal of
effort have been invested in correcting errors and bugs. This does, however,
not imply that ALL errors and bugs have been removed.

DNATools is continously being modified and extended and I would appreciate
very much your comments and suggestions regarding bugs, modifications, new
functions etc.

November 07, 1998

Soeren W. Rasmussen

swr@crc.dk
ftp://ftp.crc.dk/pub/dnatools


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Path: biosci!pravda.ucr.edu!williams
From: Alan Williams <Alan@Avocado.UCR.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Question:  Win 95/98 on LINUX?
Date: 4 Nov 1998 15:42:33 GMT
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Win95/98 under linux? As far as I know it can't be done.  
There is a cpu emulator called Bochs.
I was unable to get it running on my machine (Redhat 5.1/2.1.125 Kernel).  
From the linux news groups I gather that it is so slow (emulation is done
completely in software) that it is more of a novelty than a utility. 

If you want to run windows 3.1 apps then there is the commercial product
WABI as well as the free WINE project which will allow you to run windows
3.1 apps on a linux machine.

The only real solution to allow you to run windows 95/98/XXX apps "on" linux
is to run windows on a second computer and display the programs on your linux
box.  This can be done by using an X windows system for windows or using
the VNC system to control the windows pc from linux.  This should work fine
for a single user setup.  It may not work smoothly for multiple users.

try the comp.emulators.* news groups as well as the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups
to get more information.  www.dejanews.com is a great resource for finding

out what other people have already said about win95 apps under linux.


dd chen <chend@ucs.orst.edu> wrote:
: Has anyone installed Win 95 or 98 as a client on a machine that is
: running LINUX?  How easy/hard is this to do?  Is there a preference
: for the type of processor (eg Intel vs Alpha vs SGI etc)? Prices?
: Other help?

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------------------------------------------------------------------------  
University of California, Riverside   "Where observation is concerned,
Dept. of Botany and Plant Sciences     chance favors the prepared mind."  
Alan@Avocado.UCR.edu                               -- Louis Pasteur
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From: chend@ucs.orst.edu (dd chen)
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Hi:

Has anyone installed Win 95 or 98 as a client on a machine that is
running LINUX?  How easy/hard is this to do?  Is there a preference
for the type of processor (eg Intel vs Alpha vs SGI etc)? Prices?
Other help?

Thanks for any help.

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Hi,
I am trying to run Reference Manager version 8.01 under Windows NT. The
program will open, but when I try to open a database file, the program will
hang. This does not happen under Win95. Has anyone had this same
experience? Is there a solution to this problem?

Thanks,
Johan de Boer
Centre for Environmental Health
University of Victoria


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Hello !

We've been trying to quantify our gels with Imagequant 3.3 (win3.1) under
Win95 with an office scanner (AGFA ARCUS II), but are having problems
importing the tiff images into Imageqnt.

Question:

- Is there a way of importing the tiff images into imageqnt ? (it works the
first time but the second time we get an error message "unable to 
lock memeory").

- Are there any other software around (freeware?, shareware?, cheapware ?)
that can do the job ?

Thanks !


Ken.


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>I am trying to run Reference Manager version 8.01 under Windows NT. The

(If you have bought it recently, you can get a free upgrade to 8.5)

I use refman with ntwks daily with no problem, but I think that it needs to be 
at service pack 3 in order to work - other than that, I dunno.

-- 
Bent Nagstrup <Bent.Nagstrup@mmf.aau.dk> M.Sc.
Research Unit for Molecular Biology, Aarhus University
----
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On my desk I have a workstation....


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From: "Istituto Ispezione Alimenti Sez. II" <213ld@imiucca.csi.unimi.it>
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Subject: gel analysis freeware
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:09:52 +0000
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Any one can help me?
I am looking for a free software to analyze band-patterns on
electrophoresis gels (PCR fingerprints)
Thank you
Fabio Colombo


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From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu
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Subject: FASTA format - proposed max line limit
Date: 5 Nov 1998 01:03:17 GMT
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We all know that the FASTA format is a bit restrictive in that there is
only the one line for comments, but can the software/database community
*please* agree on some reasonable maximum line length for both the comments
and the sequence?  The basic FASTA format is defined by example in the
FASTA2 distribution file "format.doc".  The format is not defined there
with very many (any?) limitations, so consequently many FASTA files these
days have comment lines in excess of 500 characters (Unigene, for
instance).  Others have huge sequences on one line.  

The original FASTA examples, with shorter lines, could be easily viewed
with text editors and other similar tools, but the overgrown variants
cause all sorts of problems.  This is very similar to the problem one sees
with Postscript, where the standard clearly states that lines can only be
so long - and a lot of software merrily ignores that standard, and so
breaks on various printers. 

Maybe WRP has already written something like this, but here is a more
restrictive standard I propose, let's call it FASTA-1998, version 0.1, so
that it has a specific name.  It isn't very long - and it would not be at
_all_ difficult for the lot of us to stay within it.  (Hint, hint). 

**********************************************************************

Fasta-1998 0.1 defines two formats:

  Sequence:  for DNA and Protein sequences
  Reference: for any other information  (optional)

Common characteristics of both file types:

C1.  The FASTA-1998 format is a TEXT format, not a BINARY one.
C1.a   Programs which write FASTA-1998 files may do so in the native
        text mode of the operating system where they operate.
C1.b   Programs which read FASTA-1998 files will consider a cluster of
        any of the following ASCII symbols to be a SINGLE end of line:
        null ('\0'), LineFeed, CarriageReturn.
C1.c   No carriage control or "special characters" may exist in the file,
        other than those included in the end of line indicator. Tabs
        are specifically excluded.

The Fasta-1998 SEQUENCE format is:

S1.  Each sequence entry in a FASTA-1998 file will begin with a comment line.
S1.a   This line will begin with the ">" character.
S1.b   This line will not exceed 80 characters in length, not counting any
        end of line characters.
S1.c   Immediately following the ">" there will be an identifying name
        consisting of a combination of the alphanumeric symbols, plus the
        dash and underscore, but no other punctuation characters.
        All identifying names in a FASTA-1998 file must be unique within
         that file.
        The case of any letters in the name may be either upper, lower,
         or a combination of the two, but two identifying names in a
         FASTA file may not differ solely by case.
S1.d   Immediately following the identifier there may be either
        an end of line or a " " (space) character.  The latter may be followed
        by any text, up to the end of the comment line. 
S1.e   DNA and Protein alphabet specified here.

S2.  Each entry will one or more sequence lines.
S2.a   Sequence lines may not exceed 80 characters in length, excluding the
        end of line characters. 

The Fasta-1998 REFERENCE format is very similar to the SEQUENCE format.

R1. The reference file will hold information that didn't fit
      inside the Sequence file.

R1.a  The comment line for each entry in the reference file must
        contain the ">" followed by the identifier, but no other information.
R1.b  If the reference file exists, it must contain the same number
        of entries, with the same identifiers, and in the same order,
        as appeared in the sequence file.
R1.c  The data lines in the reference file may be up to 80 characters long,
        not including the end of line characters.  They may not
        include special characters or carriage control information.
R1.d  Each entry may contain zero or more data lines.


**********************************************************************

That isn't so terrible, is it?

S1.c bears special mention.  Entry names tend to turn into file names,
and if they contain odd combinations of characters they can be either
hard to deal with, or just plain illegal, depending on the OS.  For
instance: "gi|R34734987" can get you into trouble on Unix, and it's
just plain illegal on VMS.

Regards,

David Mathog
mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu
Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech 

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From: "Markus Hoenicka" <Hoenicka@pbmail.me.kp.dlr.de>
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Subject: Re: RefMan8 and Windows NT
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No such experiences. I use WinNT4.0 SP3 on two different machines, and both
show no problems with RefMan 8.01. What databases do you try to open?
Win95/RefMan8.01 generated ones or older stuff which needs a conversion?

Otherwise, the usual procedures apply:
- Reinstall
- Uninstall completely, then reinstall
- Obtain a different copy of the program and reinstall
etc etc

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Johan de Boer <jdboer@UVIC.CA> wrote in article
<199811042125.NAA123616@uvaix7e1.comp.UVic.CA>...
> Hi,
> I am trying to run Reference Manager version 8.01 under Windows NT. The
> program will open, but when I try to open a database file, the program
will
> hang. This does not happen under Win95. Has anyone had this same
> experience? Is there a solution to this problem?
> 
> Thanks,
> Johan de Boer
> Centre for Environmental Health
> University of Victoria
> 
> 

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From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
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Subject: Re: FASTA format - proposed max line limit
Date: 5 Nov 1998 18:57:46 GMT
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David,

It doesn't sound so bad to me, but there are lots of
folks overloading the fasta comment line who won't
have much interest in this.   I would suggest a longer
comment line limit, maybe 255 chars, to help keep this
defined format flexible.  

- Don

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 04 22:00:00 1998
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From: sergio@mbi.ucla.edu
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Subject: Sybyl Line Notation Question
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:05:47 GMT
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I'm trying to decipher a couple of molecules in SLN but my translation
software (ConSystant) doesn't understand them.  Could somebody help
me out?

N~C(~S)~N

ZCH=O{Z:C&!C:Any&!C=O&!C=C}

I'm not sure what the "~" means and how to interpret C&!C, etc.  Any
assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks!


sergio.

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Nov 04 22:00:00 1998
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From: Roland Walker <walker@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov>
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Subject: SEALS version 0.824
Date: 5 Nov 1998 19:34:33 GMT
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A new distribution of SEALS (A System for Easy Analysis of Lots of Sequences)
is available at

  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Walker/SEALS

This release (0.824) contains a number of bugfixes, tweaks, and efficiency
improvements, as well as a modicum of new functionality.

R

-- 

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From: jaugust@bellatlantic.net (John Augustine)
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Subject: RE:LONG FILENAME ALTERNATIVE
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:03:45 GMT
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 Someone, not long ago, was asking for an alternative to
the "Long Filename" system (Windows 95/98), to have
comments about files which can easily be edited.  This person
accumulated many files (.ZIP) downloaded from various FTP
sites, and could not remember, by looking at the filenames in the
directory, what many of the files are for. 

 There is a program called "Directory Comments" for MS-Dos
available at HOTFILES.COM (ZD Net) which allows you to
easily add or change comments about your files.  The
comments are NOT stored in the directory or attached to
the file/s, but in a separate log file (in ascii text).

From owner-software@net.bio.net Thu Nov 05 22:00:00 1998
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From: John.Ledwith@CADUS.COM ("Ledwith, John")
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Subject: RE: FASTA format - No funny characters!!
Date: 6 Nov 1998 07:32:03 -0800
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Thank you, François.  But lets say I want to set $/ (the input record
separator) to ">".  (Baba) O'Reilly says that you can set it to a
multi-character string, but "^>", "\n>", even "\s>", isnt cutting it (no
pun intended).

Sure, I can find all instances of /*>/ in a multi-FASTA file and replace
the derelict > with some innocent characters (I may start making it IAN
;-)), but that seems like excess time.  So, can someone let me know a
good way to get around this?  Or, as I asked before...

Don't put random >'s in FASTA headers!!!

Please.

Thanks,
john


John Ledwith, Bioinformatics
Cadus Pharmaceutical Corporation
john.ledwith@cadus.com
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	-----Original Message-----
	From:	pingouin@crystal.u-strasbg.fr
[SMTP:pingouin@crystal.u-strasbg.fr]
	Sent:	Friday, November 06, 1998 9:22 AM
	To:	bio-soft@net.bio.net
	Subject:	Re: FASTA format - No funny characters!!

	In article
<2D3428FD6CDFD111A72800104B2351B7242870@weebo.cadus.com>,
		John.Ledwith@CADUS.COM ("Ledwith, John") writes:
	> As long as we are talking about it...
	> 
	> I cannot count how many times I have come across a FASTA
header with a
	> ">" in the middle of it.  Can we please not let this happen
anymore?
	> PLEASE?!?!?

		Well, I think that this is used in e-mail adresses and
		sometimes in clone numbering, but, anyway, you just have
		to check ^> and not *>

						François.
	-- 
	François Jeanmougin     | groupe de bioinformatique /
bioinformatics groupe
	tel:(+33) 3 88 65 32 71 | IGBMC BP 163 67404 Illkirch France

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As long as we are talking about it...

I cannot count how many times I have come across a FASTA header with a
">" in the middle of it.  Can we please not let this happen anymore?
PLEASE?!?!?

Thank-you.

john

John Ledwith, Bioinformatics
Cadus Pharmaceutical Corporation
john.ledwith@cadus.com
www.cadus.com
Voicemail: 914-467-6200 x448
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In article <2D3428FD6CDFD111A72800104B2351B7242870@weebo.cadus.com>,
	John.Ledwith@CADUS.COM ("Ledwith, John") writes:
> As long as we are talking about it...
> 
> I cannot count how many times I have come across a FASTA header with a
> ">" in the middle of it.  Can we please not let this happen anymore?
> PLEASE?!?!?

	Well, I think that this is used in e-mail adresses and
	sometimes in clone numbering, but, anyway, you just have
	to check ^> and not *>

					François.
-- 
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tel:(+33) 3 88 65 32 71 | IGBMC BP 163 67404 Illkirch France

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mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu writes:

> We all know that the FASTA format is a bit restrictive in that there is
> only the one line for comments, but can the software/database community
> *please* agree on some reasonable maximum line length for both the comments
> and the sequence?

I would welcome a standard "unique identifier" format after the ">".

We use FASTA format extensively at the Sanger Centre, but we need to
hold both an identifier and an accession number. In specific cases
we also need a database name. Often there is other information used
(typically numeric) to generate several unique forms from one
original name.

Curiously, one reason for the expansion of FASTA format is BLAST, as
it takes as its database a file of many FASTA format sequences which
need to have unique identifiers.

One option to get extra identifier information is to use the NCBI
style with "|" characters to split the fields. Sometimes this seems to
have special information in the first word(s) of the description too,
for example in dbEST.weekly.FASTA

   >gi|1622446|dbj|C21336|C21336 HUMGS0003372, Human Gene Signature, \
	3'-directed cDNA sequence

(actually this is followed by "ctrl-A" and more description - see
"other horrors" below)

Another, since we have some FASTA files generated by GCG, is the GCG
syntax of:

   >DB:entryname accnum yet...more...description

We generate FASTA files from our unfinished sequence data where the
unique name is built from the clone and contig, using "." as a
delimiter, for example:

   >bK109G6.05061 Unfinished sequence: bK109G6  Contig_ID: 05061  \
	acc=AL023879  Length: 25298 bp 
   >bK109G6.05234 Unfinished sequence: bK109G6  Contig_ID: 05234  \
	acc=AL023879  Length: 129756 bp 

I have seen various other styles of identifier to represent
subsequences with a unique name, typically needed in protein
domain databases, for example:

   >entryname-start-end  (e.g. SBASE)
   >entryname/start-end  (horrible for generating filenames)
   >entryname\start-end  (the "/" still causes confusion with filenames)

Other horrors:

Using control characters to fake extra lines in the description,
for example ctrl-a appears in NCBI's dbEST.weekly.FASTA files.

UniGene's "seq.all" file has clusters of FASTA format sequences
headed by comment lines starting with "#"

BLAST1.4 pressdb fails if the sequence lines are not all the same
length.

An additional need is to have parseable information in the description
which can be used to efficiently markup blast search results for a Web
service.

>The Fasta-1998 REFERENCE format is very similar to the SEQUENCE format.
>
>R1. The reference file will hold information that didn't fit
>      inside the Sequence file.
>
>R1.a  The comment line for each entry in the reference file must
>        contain the ">" followed by the identifier, but no other information.

A nice idea. I would certainly support this kind of format for EMBOSS.

It is of course closely related to NBRF format, and its derivative
GCG database format(s).

File naming could be a problem - the right FASTA REFERENCE file has to
be associated with a FASTA SEQUENCE file. A ".ref" extension would help,
but the sequence file may itself have various (or no) file extensions.


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Rice                | Informatics Division, The Sanger Centre,
E-mail: pmr@sanger.ac.uk  | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,
Tel: (44) 1223 494967     | Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SA, England
Fax: (44) 1223 494919     | URL: http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/pmr/

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From: John.Ledwith@CADUS.COM ("Ledwith, John")
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Subject: RE: [CORRECTION] Re: FASTA format - No funny characters!!
Date: 6 Nov 1998 12:41:36 -0800
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Thank you, Roland!  Just you writing it out made my code work.  Really.
Programming is such a funny exercise. :-)

Have a good weekend, all.

John

John Ledwith, Bioinformatics
Cadus Pharmaceutical Corporation
john.ledwith@cadus.com
www.cadus.com
Voicemail: 914-467-6200 x448
Lab: 914-467-6230


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Roland Walker [SMTP:walker@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
	Sent:	Friday, November 06, 1998 12:00 PM
	To:	bio-soft@net.bio.net
	Subject:	[CORRECTION] Re: FASTA format - No funny
characters!!

	[sorry, typing too fast]

	[John.Ledwith@CADUS.COM writes]
	> Thank you, Fran?ois.  But lets say I want to set $/ (the input
record
	> separator) to ">".  (Baba) O'Reilly says that you can set it
to a
	> multi-character string, but "^>", "\n>", even "\s>", isnt
cutting it (no
	> pun intended).

	#!/bin/perl
	$/="\n>";
	while (<>) {
	  chomp;
	  s/\A>?([^\n]*)\n//;
	  tr/\n//d;
	  my $defline=">$1";
	  my $sequence=$_;

	  $defline =~ s/\A([^\cA]{1,80}).*/$1/; # Example: 
	                                        # limit defline to max
80 columns
	                                        # or up to the first
control-A


	  # other transformations left as
	  # an exercise to the reader

	  print "$defline\n$sequence\n";

	}

	-- 

	Roland Walker
	walker@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
	National Center for Biotechnology Information

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To the group,

My favorite horror (to use Peter's term) is this one (and its brothers
and sisters in dbest) :

>gb|AA406996|acc:AA406966 EST02002 Mouse 7.5 dpc embryo ectoplacental
cone cDNA library Mus musculus cDNA clone C0016E04 3' similar to Mouse
mitochondrial genome. >gb, score = 1720, mRNA sequence - Mus musculus,
404 bp (RNA)

Enjoy!        ;-)

Brian O.

Brian Osborne
Cadus Pharmaceutical Corporation
777 Old Saw Mill River Rd.
Tarrytown NY USA
10591-6705
brian.osborne@cadus.com
TEL 914 467 6291
FAX 914 345 3565




> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Peter Rice [SMTP:pmr@sanger.ac.uk]
> Sent:	Friday, November 06, 1998 5:21 AM
> To:	bio-soft@net.bio.net
> Subject:	Re: FASTA format - proposed max line limit
> 
> mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu writes:
> 
> > We all know that the FASTA format is a bit restrictive in that there
> is
> > only the one line for comments, but can the software/database
> community
> > *please* agree on some reasonable maximum line length for both the
> comments
> > and the sequence?
> 
> I would welcome a standard "unique identifier" format after the ">".
> 
> We use FASTA format extensively at the Sanger Centre, but we need to
> hold both an identifier and an accession number. In specific cases
> we also need a database name. Often there is other information used
> (typically numeric) to generate several unique forms from one
> original name.
> 
> Curiously, one reason for the expansion of FASTA format is BLAST, as
> it takes as its database a file of many FASTA format sequences which
> need to have unique identifiers.
> 
> One option to get extra identifier information is to use the NCBI
> style with "|" characters to split the fields. Sometimes this seems to
> have special information in the first word(s) of the description too,
> for example in dbEST.weekly.FASTA
> 
>    >gi|1622446|dbj|C21336|C21336 HUMGS0003372, Human Gene Signature, \
> 	3'-directed cDNA sequence
> 
> (actually this is followed by "ctrl-A" and more description - see
> "other horrors" below)
> 
> Another, since we have some FASTA files generated by GCG, is the GCG
> syntax of:
> 
>    >DB:entryname accnum yet...more...description
> 
> We generate FASTA files from our unfinished sequence data where the
> unique name is built from the clone and contig, using "." as a
> delimiter, for example:
> 
>    >bK109G6.05061 Unfinished sequence: bK109G6  Contig_ID: 05061  \
> 	acc=AL023879  Length: 25298 bp 
>    >bK109G6.05234 Unfinished sequence: bK109G6  Contig_ID: 05234  \
> 	acc=AL023879  Length: 129756 bp 
> 
> I have seen various other styles of identifier to represent
> subsequences with a unique name, typically needed in protein
> domain databases, for example:
> 
>    >entryname-start-end  (e.g. SBASE)
>    >entryname/start-end  (horrible for generating filenames)
>    >entryname\start-end  (the "/" still causes confusion with
> filenames)
> 
> Other horrors:
> 
> Using control characters to fake extra lines in the description,
> for example ctrl-a appears in NCBI's dbEST.weekly.FASTA files.
> 
> UniGene's "seq.all" file has clusters of FASTA format sequences
> headed by comment lines starting with "#"
> 
> BLAST1.4 pressdb fails if the sequence lines are not all the same
> length.
> 
> An additional need is to have parseable information in the description
> which can be used to efficiently markup blast search results for a Web
> service.
> 
> >The Fasta-1998 REFERENCE format is very similar to the SEQUENCE
> format.
> >
> >R1. The reference file will hold information that didn't fit
> >      inside the Sequence file.
> >
> >R1.a  The comment line for each entry in the reference file must
> >        contain the ">" followed by the identifier, but no other
> information.
> 
> A nice idea. I would certainly support this kind of format for EMBOSS.
> 
> It is of course closely related to NBRF format, and its derivative
> GCG database format(s).
> 
> File naming could be a problem - the right FASTA REFERENCE file has to
> be associated with a FASTA SEQUENCE file. A ".ref" extension would
> help,
> but the sequence file may itself have various (or no) file extensions.
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Peter Rice                | Informatics Division, The Sanger Centre,
> E-mail: pmr@sanger.ac.uk  | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,
> Tel: (44) 1223 494967     | Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SA, England
> Fax: (44) 1223 494919     | URL: http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/pmr/

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[sorry, typing too fast]

[John.Ledwith@CADUS.COM writes]
> Thank you, Fran?ois.  But lets say I want to set $/ (the input record
> separator) to ">".  (Baba) O'Reilly says that you can set it to a
> multi-character string, but "^>", "\n>", even "\s>", isnt cutting it (no
> pun intended).

#!/bin/perl
$/="\n>";
while (<>) {
  chomp;
  s/\A>?([^\n]*)\n//;
  tr/\n//d;
  my $defline=">$1";
  my $sequence=$_;

  $defline =~ s/\A([^\cA]{1,80}).*/$1/; # Example: 
                                        # limit defline to max 80 columns
                                        # or up to the first control-A


  # other transformations left as
  # an exercise to the reader

  print "$defline\n$sequence\n";

}

-- 

Roland Walker
walker@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
National Center for Biotechnology Information

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[John.Ledwith@CADUS.COM writes]
> Thank you, Fran?ois.  But lets say I want to set $/ (the input record
> separator) to ">".  (Baba) O'Reilly says that you can set it to a
> multi-character string, but "^>", "\n>", even "\s>", isnt cutting it (no
> pun intended).

#!/bin/perl
$/="\n>";
while (<>) {
  chomp;
  s/\A>?([^\n]*)\n/>/;
  tr/\n//d;
  my $defline=">$1";
  my $sequence=$_;

  $defline =~ s/\A([^\cA]{1,80})/$1/;   # Example: 
                                        # limit defline to max 80 columns
                                        # or up to the first control-A


  # other transformations left as
  # an exercise to the reader

  print "$defline\n$sequence\n";

}

-- 

Roland Walker
walker@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
National Center for Biotechnology Information

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I use GelReader 2.0 for the Macintosh.  This software was developed at
the National Center for Supercomuter Applications by Tom Redmon.  Two
versions are available; one for Macs with a FPU and one with out.  One
bug I have found is that you must set you monitor control panel to 256
colors. You can download the software and supporting documents from
http://www.edvz.univie.ac.at/systems/mac/MacSciTech/biology/NCSA_GelReader/. 

Good luck,  Alan Friedman

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Finally, the beta version 1.0 of HPLC-WIZARD is ready for evaluation. 
Get to our home page at http://home5.inet.tele.dk/daller/index.htm
to download the beta version.

HPLC-WIZARD is  a Microsoft® Windows 95/98/NT application designed for fast and
easy calculation of amino acid distributions from HPLC - chromatograms. In contrast
to the existing method of numerical integration, which suffers from systematical errors
due to inaccurate partion of overlapping peaks and improper treatment of the background
function,  HPLC-WIZARD calculates an amino acid distribution by modelling the HPLC- 
chromatograms
by using different density functions to model the peaks and a background function based
on Principal Component Analysis to model the background.

In the evaluation of appropiate candidate functions to model the peaks in the HPLC - 
chromatograms,
it was found necessary to develop tools to estimate how good a candidate function was able to 
model
the chromatograms in a visual as well as statistical aspect. As these tools are made available 
to
the user means that, apart from calculation of amino acid distributions from HPLC-chromatograms, 
HPLC - WIZARD offers the following other important features:

1. The functionality of a MDI-application (Multiple Document Interface). Which 
   makes simultanous examination of several HPLC-chromatograms possible.

2. An user friendly environment making it easy to navigate around in the HPLC -
   chromatograms. This implies zoom, scroll, clip and stretch functions and
   the ability to draw chromatograms in numerous ways.

3. A function gallery, in which the user can select among several density
   functions to find the best function to model the peaks in a specific
   chromatogram.

4. Access to view and edit any parameter in the system. This implies e.g. editing
   or restraining individual peak and backgrund function parameters.

5. Graphical insertion, modification and minimization of peak functions, making it
   possible to model peaks with underlying structures or huge overlaps.

6. Implementation of joint refinement to handle response overflow.

7. Three different quantification methods. This involves a fully automatic weighted
   averaging of the compounds in up to 10 chromatograms.

8. Well-arranged presentation of results on screen as well as printer.

From owner-software@net.bio.net Sat Nov 07 22:00:00 1998
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I am working on a BLAST client program.  I am able to run BLAST 1
searches over the web at NCBI by sending requests to the URL recommended
in the documentation at ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/blasturl/

I would also like to be able to do gapped BLAST searches, but have not
been able to find equivalent documentation.  Does anyone know of
documentation for writing a basic BLAST 2 web client or if NCBI provides
a stable URL for doing BLAST 2 searches similar to the one suggested for
BLAST 1 searches (ie. other than the main forms which, as I understand
it, could change location or format at any time)?

Thanks for your time,
Andrew

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I'm running RefMan 8.5 under NT 4.0 SP 3 as well as under W95.  No problems
other than the obtuse Cite-Wile-U-Rite ones with Winword 97.  Do update to 8.5!

Johan de Boer wrote:

> Hi,
> I am trying to run Reference Manager version 8.01 under Windows NT. The
> program will open, but when I try to open a database file, the program will
> hang. This does not happen under Win95. Has anyone had this same
> experience? Is there a solution to this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Johan de Boer
> Centre for Environmental Health
> University of Victoria

____________________________________
M. Johan Broekman
email mjbroek@mail.med.cornell.edu


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S: Haus- und Grundriss-Software

Suche Software mit der man Häusergrundrisse Zeichnen und bemaßen kann.
bzw. sich sein Traumhaus auf dem Computer erstellen und ansehen kann. Evtl.
auch einrichten kann.

Bitte alles was meinen Vorstellungen entsprechen könnte anbieten, aber bloß
keine 1000,-DM Software - Ist für mich nur für meinen Privaten gebrauch.

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From: David Martin <david.martin@biotek.uio.no>
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GENALYSER is a user driven analysis workbench for visualisation of
genomic DNA sequences. It is designed to allow the user to make
predictions of potential gene transcripts.

GENALYSER can be found at http://biotek38.uio.no/Genalyser/

GENALYSER version 0.3.2 is now available.
New features include the construction of virtual transcripts from your
genomic sequence and submission of the derived peptide to GeneQuiz.

The tutorial will be updated shortly to cover the new features. In the
meantime just play around and see what it does.

Comments and suggestions to David Martin at david.martin@biotek.uio.no
GENALYSER is a work in progress, so check back every so often to see
what has changed.

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From: Luis R Viteri <lviteri@osf1.gmu.edu>
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Who can list 5 weaknesses of Microsoft?

--LRV-- 



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I just updated the main web page for a client, BIOTECH PRODUCTS.

http://members.iquest.net/~bioproducts/

Please consider them for your lab equipment needs.

1. You can sign up for their mailing list to receive announcements.
2. They added a NEWS page for up-to-the-minute announcements 
    which they now update on their own (without having to go through
    their webmaster.)
3. They are recommending the book PLANAR LIPID BILAYERS 
    by Wolfgang Hanke and W.R. Schule.

(They are a distributor/manufacturer's rep for Microstar DAP boards,
DasyLab data acquisition software, Hameg oscilloscopes and test
equipment, Warner elctrophysiological instrumentation and recording,
Sycopel microdialysis biosensors and potentiostats, Skalar blood-flow
meters and eye-trackers, Mini-Mitter animal monitoring, Fabreeka
isolation tables and platforms, Torrey Pines Scientific incubators and
chillers, and Strathkelvin oxygen meters.)

If you're looking for a digital oscilloscope, check out the Hameg
line, they have hot stuff at good prices.


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I need to map a polypeptide sequence for protease cleavage sites, in
particular Calpain I & II. What program should I be using, and where can I
find it? (E.g NCBI, Sanger etc.?)

Please send your suggestions to
saspeyer@reading.ac.uk

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From: jmihic@wfubmc.nospam.edu (John Mihic)
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In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.981109090043.12508B-100000@osf1.gmu.edu>, 
lviteri@osf1.gmu.edu says...
>
>Who can list 5 weaknesses of Microsoft?
>

I only have time for one at the moment, but it's a biggie.

The guy running the company is a dweeb, and judging from what I've heard about 
his attempts to crush competition in the computer industry, a pushy dweeb to 
boot!

:-)

Seriously, I think their products, and those of most other software companies, 
are now bloated beyond belief.  I used to run Wordstar on a 64K apple, and it 
did the job just fine.  Now you have 20 Mb packages that do essentially the 
same thing (plus they have annoying paper clips, happy faces and Albert 
Einsteins popping up to give unwanted advice and eat RAM and disk space).  
Garbage code expands to fill empty disk space and RAM.

I've been using NT 4.0 with sp 4.0 for a while now and must say that I'm pretty 
disappointed at how it seems to lose track of Mb of memory that applications 
free up when they close.  To keep things moving at a respectable pace, I 
usually re-boot at least twice a day.  That's not something I'd expect from a 
state-of-the-art operating system made by the biggest software manufacturer in 
the world.  No wonder they're worried about Linux!


John


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From: Marco Hoeksma <m.r.hoeksma@pharm.uu.nl>
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Subject: Re: Weaknesses of Microsoft.
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1). Their constant 'infiltration' in all kinds of areas (msnbc, webtv
etc).

2). Their buggy code, and the lack of openness thereof.

3). Their aggressive commercialism
(http://www.opensource.org/halloween1.html for example).


4). Their focus on 'fun' and not on 'work' (i.e., they produce things
like 'active desktop', and never seem to realize that this is a stupid
idea in the first place).

5). Their incapability of humouring the consumer, which also produces
'microsoft bashing' when this is not correct.

6). Their development of new 'standards' only to develop a state in
which the consumer has no alternative but to use microsoft (again:
http://www.opensource.org/halloween1.html)
 
This is just from a user point of view. There must be more.......

Luis R Viteri wrote:
> 
> Who can list 5 weaknesses of Microsoft?
> 
> --LRV--

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In article <3648F07D.4DA70F50@cc.umanitoba.ca>, frist@cc.umanitoba.ca says...

>Now I have a question. Is there anybody
>out there actually doing real science
>on the NT platform -- and loving it?
>Maybe NT has some hidden charms that
>have been lost on me. 
>

Hi Brian,

Very interesting post.  I think that when it's all said and done, the major 
factor in whether a particular program or operating system works for you is 
whether or not it can do what you want done, without too much screwing around. 
For example, in my lab we do a fair bit of mutagenesis and then farm out 
confirmatory sequencing.  The first time I got one of those sequencing files 
back, I realized it was going to be a MAJOR pain to look at these by hand, so I 
wrote a QuickBasic (version 4 to boot!) program that takes in sequencing files, 
translates them and then spits out amino acid & nucleotide sequence files that 
my sequence alignment software can read.  Sure I'm still using a prehistoric 
language to write code, but I'm doing so because it works, and it's not worth 
my time to try and figure out Visual Basic or C++ [I'll bet my Chairman thinks 
it's a better use of my time to write grants :-) ].  This program is running on 
NT and I can't imagine it running any faster on any other operating system.  So 
to answer your question, you can do science on NT (although my type of mol. 
bio. work is not nearly the most sophisticated).  NT may not be the most 
efficient operating system, and for comparison my Unix experience is limited, 
but I am somehow blundering along.

So, looking forward to winter in Manitoba?  I grew up in Toronto, and don't 
miss the snow and ice storms one bit!

Cheers!  

John


-- 
John Mihic, Ph.D.
Department of Physiology & Pharmacology
Wake Forest University School of Medicine
Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1083



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Subject: Recompiling Rasmol w/Borland C++
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:07:32 GMT
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Does anyone have experience recompiling Rasmol for Windows using Borland C++
Builder?

I know Visual C++ is recommended, but I don't have access to it.  As it
stands I am getting a ton of warning and error messages dealing with syntax
differences between the 2 compilers, but I don't how to correct them.  I
would really like to get this straightened out so I can work on getting high
resolution hardcopy. I welcome any suggestions.

Thanks.

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     911/Nov/98
     Can anyone help with the following browser problem?

     I uninstalled Netscape Navigator with Cleen Sweep, first
     saving bookmarks by putting 'Users' on the desk top as
     instructed. 
     I downloaded and installed version 4.07 but cannot
     reinstall the 'Users' folder.
     The programs appear to be in a 'Username' folder in a
     'Users' folder in the desktop folder and not in a
     'Netscape' folder. How do I reinstall my bookmarks?
      Netscape's web site is too complex to find tyhis
      sort of help. Thanks in anticipation, John Shaw



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From: Barent Hoffman <barent@u.washington.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc,bionet.software,comp.software.testing,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Making Word Templates
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:15:59 -0800
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I want to make a template such that certain words and lines cannot be
edited, but the rest of the template can be altered. Is there a way to
"lock" certain parts of a document while leaving the rest of the template
open for editing?
(I know how to lock an entire template EXCEPT for certain text
boxes. However, this is not the effect I want.)
Thanks for any insight.
-Barent Hoffman
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From: "Malay" <curiouser@ccmb.ap.nic.in>
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Subject: Disclosing of disk information by Windows98
Date: 11 Nov 1998 07:38:31 -0000
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Hi everybody:

Recently I came to know about a possible dirty trick by Microsoft. As soon
as you login to Internet while using Windows 98, Microsoft comes to know
about your hard disk informations, including the softwares you installed.

Can anybody clarify whether this is true or not?

Malay

Malay Kumar Basu
Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology
Hyderabad 500007
I N D I A

Fax: (00-91)40-7171195
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From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu
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In article <3644FD16.1C3418B1@compusmart.ab.ca>, Andrew Gardner <andrewg@compusmart.ab.ca> writes:
>I am working on a BLAST client program.  I am able to run BLAST 1
>searches over the web at NCBI by sending requests to the URL recommended
>in the documentation at ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/blasturl/
>

After my signature you'll find such a beast.  It's written in DCL,
so unless you're on a VMS system, it won't do you much good directly, but
you should be able to read it to see how it works.  Basically the trick
for writing command line (that is what you're doing, right?) clients for
web servers is to save the submission page from your browser, and edit
the client so that it can set all fields, then use a program like 
rep_client (which was in the demo on the NCBI site) to stuff the request
into the server and wait for the response.  How you handle waiting around
for the request is OS specific though. 

I vaguely recall that some of the NCBI servers will send you back a file
in text mode, and others insist on HTML, unless you tell it to email,
then you can get text.  (They may have changed this in the 10 months
since I wrote the client.)  The client below leaves a text mode
result file on disk.

Regards,

David Mathog
mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu
Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech 

**************************************************************************

$! SAF_BLAST.COM
$!
$! 7-JAN-1998, David Mathog, Biology Division, Caltech
$!
$! Command procedure to access the BLAST server via the web interface.
$!
$! See below for the symbols it looks for and command line format.
$!
$! subroutine to list program options
$!
$ listprogram: subroutine
$   type sys$Input
Select the program to run, your options are:

  Program    Query   against->    Database
  ------------------------------------------------
  blastn     Nuc                  Nuc
  blastp     Pep                  Pep
  tblastn    Pep                  Nuc->Pep (6 frames)
  tblastx    Nuc->Pep (6 frames)  Nuc->Pep (6 frames)
  blastx     Nuc->Pep (6 frames)  Pep

$ exit
$ endsubroutine
$!
$! subroutine to list datalib options
$!
$ listdatalib: subroutine
$   type sys$Input

Select the datalib to search, your options are:

  nr          nonredundant (Pep or Nuc)
  month       all entries < 30 days old (Pep or Nuc)
  swissprot   Swiss Protein (Pep)
  dbest       nonredundant EST sequences (Nuc)
  dbsts       nonredundant STS sequences (Nuc)
  pdb         Sequences from 3D structure files (Pep)
  vector      Vectors (Nuc)
  kabat       Sequences of immunological intereset (Pep)
  mito        Mitochondrial (Nuc)
  alu         Some ALU sequences from REPBASE (Nuc)
  epd         Eukaryotic Promoter Databse (Nuc)
  yeast       S.cerevisiae genome (Nuc, or coding sequences, Pep)
  gss         Genome survey sequences (Nuc)
  htgs        High throughput genomic sequences (Nuc)
  E.coli      E. coli genome (Nuc, or coding sequences, Pep)

$ exit
$ endsubroutine
$!
$! subroutine to list command line options, and symbols
$!
$ listcommand: subroutine
$   type sys$Input

Usage:  @saf_blast P1  P2 P3

  Where:

  P1  name of query sequence file, such as "sequence.gcg"
  P2  (Optional) Comma separated list for fields to prompt for
       if they are not supplied by symbols (see below.)
       Example: "EXPECT,CUTOFF" would prompt for the EXPECT and CUTOFF
       values to use with the search. "OUTFILE" would prompt for
       an output file name.
  P3  (Optional) "Start,End" - limit the query to this region of
      the sequence. Must be enclosed in double quotes.  Examples:
         "1000,2000"   from 1000 to 2000 inclusive
         "1000,"       from 1000 to the end
         ",2000"       from 1 to 2000
         ","           the whole sequence
       If you want to specify P3 and not P2 (or P1), you 
       must use this syntax:  blast "" "" P3


If blast_FIELD symbols are defined they will override defaults.
The symbols this procedure looks for are:

 blast_INFILE    The GCG formatted query sequence (input file)
 blast_OUTFILE   Name for BLAST output file

 blast_PROGRAM   blastn, blastp, tblastn, tblastx, blastx
 blast_DATALIB   nr, month, swissprot, dbest, dbsts, pdb, vector, 
                    kabat, mito, alu,epd, yeast, gss, htgs, E.coli 

 blast_EXPECT    default, or any floating point number
 blast_CUTOFF    default or any number >=0
 blast_MATRIX    default, BLOSUM62, PAM40, PAM120, PAM250, IDENTITY
 blast_STRAND    both, top, bottom
 blast_FILTER    default, none, dust, SEG, SEG+XNU, XNU
 blast_HISTOGRAM if set, a histogram is drawn, default is none
 blast_NCBI_GI   if set, show NCBI gi numbers in output, default is not to
 blast_DESCRIPTIONS default or any number >=0
 blast_ALIGNMENTS   default or any number >= 0
 blast_ADVANCED    other BLAST command line options
 blast_EMAIL     send response via email to address it holds
 blast_HTML      send response in HTML format

$ exit
$ endsubroutine
$!
$! define symbols for program used
$!
$ hereis = f$environment("PROCEDURE")
$ hereis = f$element(0,"]",hereis) + "]"
$ rep_client = "''hereis'rep_client"
$ FIELDS ="INFILE,OUTFILE,PROGRAM,DATALIB,EXPECT,MATRIX,STRAND,FILTER,HISTOGRAM,NCBI_GI,DESCRIPTIONS,ALIGNMENTS,ADVANCED,EMAIL,PATH"
$! path is a bit different, called EMAIL externally
$ PATH=""
$!
$!
$ promptfor = "''P2'"
$ promptfor = f$edit(promptfor,"COLLAPSE,UPCASE")
$!
$! INFILE
$!
$ askfor = "INFILE"
$ default = "''P1'"
$ blab = ""
$ gosub doprompt
$ if ("''INFILE'" .eqs. "")
$ then
$   call LISTCOMMAND
$   exit
$ endif
$!
$ if (P3 .nes. "")
$ then
$   startfrom = f$element(0,",",P3)
$   startfrom = f$EDIT(startfrom,"COLLAPSE")
$   endat     = f$element(1,",",P3)
$   endat     = f$EDIT(endat,"COLLAPSE")
$   if(startfrom .eq. ",")then goto badp3
$   if(startfrom .eqs. "")
$   then
$     section = ""
$   else
$     section = "/begin=''startfrom'"
$   endif
$   if(endat .eq. ",")then goto badp3
$   if(endat .nes. "")
$   then
$     section = section + "/end=''endat'"
$   endif
$ endif
$ goto notbadp3
$!
$ badp3:
$   write sys$output "The range you specified [''P3'] is invalid"
$   Type sys$input

   Use one of these forms:

         "1000,2000"   from 1000 to 2000 inclusive
         "1000,"       from 1000 to the end
         ",2000"       from 1 to 2000
         ","           the whole sequence

   The double quotes on each side are MANDATORY

   If you want to specify P3 and not P2 (or P1), you 
   must use this syntax:  blast "" "" P3

$  exit
$!
$notbadP3:
$!
$ time = f$time()
$ killstring = f$cvtime(time,,"hour") + -
      f$cvtime(time,,"minute") + -
      f$cvtime(time,,"second") +  -
      f$cvtime(time,,"hundredth")
$ killfile = "KILL_" + killstring + ".seq"
$ comfile  = "KILL_" + killstring + ".com"
$ mypid = f$getjpi("","PID")
$ back= f$extract(4,4,mypid)
$ subname = "K" + back + killstring
$!
$ tofasta/infile='infile'/out='killfile' 'section'/default
$!
$! PROGRAM
$!
$ checkstring="blastn blastp blastx tblastx tblastn"
$ if (f$type(BLAST_PROGRAM) .eqs. "")then promptfor = promptfor + ",PROGRAM"
$ topprogram:
$ askfor = "PROGRAM"
$ default = "blastn"
$ blab    = "LISTPROGRAM"
$ gosub doprompt
$ PROGRAM = f$EDIT(PROGRAM,"COLLAPSE,LOWERCASE")
$ if(f$length(checkstring) .eq. f$locate(PROGRAM,checkstring))
$   then
$   write sys$Output "''PROGRAM' is not a valid option for PROGRAM"
$   goto topprogram
$ endif
$!
$! OUTFILE
$!
$!
$! come up with a name for the output file, if one is not supplied
$!
$ askfor = "OUTFILE"
$ default = infile
$! strip off any nasty characters which might be in it now
$! looks for [] or logical: and removes them
$!
$ tdefault = f$element(1,"]",default)
$ if (tdefault .eqs. "]")then tdefault = default
$ default = tdefault
$ tdefault = f$element(1,":",default)
$ if (tdefault .eqs. ":")then tdefault = default
$ default = tdefault + "."
$ default = f$element(0,".",default)
$ default = default + ".''PROGRAM'"
$ write sys$output "output will be ''default'"
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$!  DATALIB
$!
$ checkstring="nr month swissprot dbest dbsts pdb vector kabat mito alu epd yeast gss htgs e.coli"
$ topDATALIB:
$ askfor = "DATALIB"
$ default = "nr"
$ blab    = "listdatalib"
$ gosub doprompt
$ DATALIB = f$EDIT(DATALIB,"COLLAPSE,LOWERCASE")
$ if(f$length(checkstring) .eq. f$locate(DATALIB,checkstring))
$ then
$   write sys$Output "''DATALIB' is not a valid option for DATALIB"
$   goto topDATALIB
$ endif
$!
$! this next may or may not be necessary, BLAST documentation is unclear
$!
$ if(DATALIB .eqs. "e.coli")then DATALIB = "E.coli"
$!
$! EXPECT
$!
$ askfor = "EXPECT"
$ default = "default"
$ blab    = ""
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! CUTOFF
$!
$ askfor = "CUTOFF"
$ default = "default"
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! MATRIX
$!
$ askfor = "MATRIX"
$ default = "default"
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! STRAND
$!
$ askfor = "STRAND"
$ default = "both"
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! FILTER
$!
$ askfor = "FILTER"
$ default = "default"
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! HISTOGRAM
$!
$ askfor = "HISTOGRAM"
$ default = ""
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! NCBI_GI
$!
$ askfor = "NCBI_GI"
$ default = ""
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! HTML
$!
$ askfor = "HTML"
$ default = ""
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! DESCRIPTIONS
$!
$ askfor = "DESCRIPTIONS"
$ default = "100"
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! ALIGNMENTS
$!
$ askfor = "ALIGNMENTS"
$ default = "100"
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! ADVANCED
$!
$ askfor = "ADVANCED"
$ default = ""
$ gosub doprompt
$!
$! EMAIL/PATH
$!
$ askfor = "EMAIL"
$ default = ""
$ gosub doprompt
$ if(EMAIL .nes. "")
$ then
$   PATH  = EMAIL
$   EMAIL = "IS_SET"
$ endif
$!
$!  now assemble the command file to send
$!
$!
$! create a stream-lf file because the sequence will also be stream lf,
$! and otherwise append generates warnings.  STREAMLF must be a system
$! wide symbol that maps to something like:
$! create/fdl=shrdisk:[shared.misc]streamlf.fdl
$!
$ streamlf 'comfile'
$ open/append ofil: 'comfile'
$!
$ write ofil: "www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov"
$ write ofil: "POST /cgi-bin/BLAST/nph-blast_report HTTP/1.0X"
$! write ofil: "WWW_BLAST_TYPE unfin_gen"
$!
$! skip INFILE,OUTFILE, those don't go to NCBI
$!
$ count = 2
$ allfields:
$ string = f$element(count,",",fields)
$ if(string .nes. ",")
$ then
$   value = 'string'
$   value = "''value'"
$   if(value .nes. "")then write ofil: "''STRING' ''VALUE'"
$   count = count + 1
$   goto allfields
$ endif
$ write ofil: "BEGIN"
$ close ofil:
$ append 'killfile' 'comfile'
$ delete 'killfile';
$!
$! run it in a subprocess so that we can keep track of it
$!
$! type 'comfile'
$ create 'outfile'
$ spawn/nowait/input='comfile'/output='outfile'/process='subname' -
  run 'rep_client'
$!
$! find the darn subprocess!
$!
$ context = ""
$ findsub:
$    apid = f$pid(context)
$    if(apid .eqs. "")
$    then
$      write sys$Output "Fatal error, connection to NCBI died"
$      exit
$    endif
$    procname = f$getjpi(apid,"PRCNAM")
$    if(procname .nes. subname)then goto findsub
$!
$! apid is its ID, procname is its process name
$!
$ write sys$output "Now processing job, subprocess is ''APID'"
$ 
$ waiting:
$   procname = ""
$   define/user/nolog sys$error nla0:
$   define/user/nolog sys$output nla0:
$   procname = f$getjpi(apid,"PRCNAM")
$   deass/user sys$error
$   deass/user sys$output
$   if (procname .eqs. "")then goto done
$   time=f$time()
$   write sys$output "still waiting at ''time'"
$   wait 00:00:20.00
$   goto waiting
$!
$ done:
$ fime=f$time()
$ write sys$output "BLAST job completed at ''time', results in ''OUTFILE'"
$ delete 'comfile';
$ exit
$!
$! prompt routine.  Set response to default value, then override that
$!   with symbol's value (if it exists), and lastly, override that with
$!   a prompt, if it was asked for on the command line
$!
$ doprompt:
$   'ASKFOR' = default
$   if (f$type(BLAST_'ASKFOR') .nes. "")then 'ASKFOR' = blast_'ASKFOR'
$!
$   if(f$locate(askfor,promptfor) .eq. f$length(promptfor))then return
$   if("''blab'" .nes. "")then call 'blab'
$   READ/PROMPT="Enter a value for ''ASKFOR': "  sys$command response
$   'askfor' = response
$   return

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