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CompUSA has new signs posted in their stores.

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The sign is much smaller than the old posted return policy!

The letters are so small that you need to be right on top of the
sign to see the new charges!

Do you think they are trying to slip one by on us?

A restock charge is fair! To sneak it in in very small
print, well, that's pretty shady!

I for one will never do business with them again! We only purchase
around $10K/year from them, nation wide. I'm sure that's a drop
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Release 6.07 of the BioCatalog is now available at 
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/biocat/biocat.html

++++++++++Over 580 bioinformatics packages listed

The BioCatalog is a software directory of general interest
in molecular biology and genetics. It is not copmmercial,
does not distribute software but list information
on what the software is and how to retrieve it from
 its original place.


The Text files are available from EBI anonymous FTP server at
ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/databases/biocat


This database cannot be maintained up-to-date without
 the help of the biocomputing community, that is to say
the programs authors, archive adminsitrators and end-users. 

You can submit new entries describing software not already
 listed in the BioCatalog by filling the form at :
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/biocat/biocat_form.html 

 Thank you very much for all the submissions and corrections.

enjoy


Patricia

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Subject: systran software
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is there any demo version of the translator called Systran available
somewhere on the net ?

Thank you for your help



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Subject: HI.. help on sequence analysis
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Dear Friends
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Mar 02 22:00:00 1999
From: Cornelius Krasel <krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Subject: Re: MolBio OS?
Newsgroups: bionet.software
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Andreas Milton <milton@san.rr.com> wrote:
> Actually I have experience with many OSes, but I am trying to make a decision
> that impacts a large group of people.  I want to accommodate all the
> essential applications used in Molecular Biology.  The problem I'm having is
> that  this field tends to be Mac and unix based.  However, my gut feeling is
> to go with Microsoft products because of the global acceptance of the windows
> environment.

Microsoft does not offer products for the Molbio market.

IMO, the choice is fairly simple:

If your user group is mostly GUI-based, buy Macs. If your user group
consists mostly of "power users", buy Unix.

Other points you might want to consider if you will have to do the
administration of the machines:

Macs are incredibly easy to network. Just plug them into the wall, give
them an IP number and you are ready to go. On the other hand, Macs are
a pain to administer because they are not intended to be multi-user
machines. That is, every user can mess around with the system files,
file sharing is fairly slow, etc. On the other hand, this is one of
the advantages of Unix machines: you can share the file systems via
NFS and you can do the administration of a whole farm of workstations
from a single machine. Plus, the machines are running much more stable
than any Mac or Windows machine I've seen so far.

If I had to equip a lab with computers today, I would probably try to
buy a host of cheap PCs running Linux and some standard software for
word processing and the like (e.g. Applix). To that I'd add one "real
workstation" running GCG for the more complicated molbio problems.

--Cornelius.

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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:09:27 +0100, Cornelius Krasel
<krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:

>Andreas Milton <milton@san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Actually I have experience with many OSes, but I am trying to make a decision
>> that impacts a large group of people.  I want to accommodate all the
>> essential applications used in Molecular Biology.  The problem I'm having is
>> that  this field tends to be Mac and unix based.  However, my gut feeling is
>> to go with Microsoft products because of the global acceptance of the windows
>> environment.
>
>Microsoft does not offer products for the Molbio market.
>
True, but lots of companies are now producing molbio
applications for Windows and many are phasing out their
Mac products.  In general the NT versions are faster
and far more stable than the Mac versions..  We wouldn't
touch Win95/98 workstations for obvious reasons, so I cannot
comment on their performance.

>IMO, the choice is fairly simple:
>
>If your user group is mostly GUI-based, buy Macs. If your user group
>consists mostly of "power users", buy Unix.
>
You would regret moving to Macs within a few years.

>Other points you might want to consider if you will have to do the
>administration of the machines:
>
>Macs are incredibly easy to network. Just plug them into the wall, give
>them an IP number and you are ready to go. On the other hand, Macs are
>a pain to administer because they are not intended to be multi-user
>machines. That is, every user can mess around with the system files,
>file sharing is fairly slow, etc. On the other hand, this is one of
>the advantages of Unix machines: you can share the file systems via
>NFS and you can do the administration of a whole farm of workstations
>from a single machine. Plus, the machines are running much more stable
>than any Mac or Windows machine I've seen so far.
>
Unix servers tend to mess up their storage of Mac files and 
often ruin them for use by Macs afterwards.  NT on the other
hand was designed from the ground up as a file server for
the Mac and does a much better job of it.  Far, far easier
to configure too.  Correctly configured NT servers are just
as stable as any Unix server, but beware of NT administered
by Unix specialists.  

>If I had to equip a lab with computers today, I would probably try to
>buy a host of cheap PCs running Linux and some standard software for
>word processing and the like (e.g. Applix). To that I'd add one "real
>workstation" running GCG for the more complicated molbio problems.
>
I would use NT workstations on the desktop with a few Linux
servers to run Unix applications remotely and perhaps a Sun
for the things that haven't got a Linux version yet.  For
file serving an NT Server with a big RAID system.  For
running stuff like ABI sequencers you will need Macs, but
the ABIs come with Macs anyway.

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Reykjavik   | IS -110  Iceland    | GSM:354-8988261       

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Subject: Re: MolBio OS?
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Hi Andreas, 

I hope you don't mind me writing directly as well as to the group.

In article <36DCBD46.F20C8628@san.rr.com>, milton@san.rr.com wrote:

>Actually I have experience with many OSes, but I am trying to make a decision
>that impacts a large group of people.  I want to accommodate all the
>essential applications used in Molecular Biology.  The problem I'm having is
>that  this field tends to be Mac and unix based.  However, my gut feeling is
>to go with Microsoft products because of the global acceptance of the windows
>environment.

<shudder> that's NOT a good reason to go with MS products - they may be
globally accepted (which I'd actually dispute) but that does not mean
they're any good. . .

Ideally you want something stonking running the GCG suite of programs
under UNIX, and then hang Macs off it running some kind of X-Windows
emulator . . . if money is no object.

>I understand that file formats are text based... and while that does make the
>migration of data quite seamless,  I am still having a problem researching
>what platforms people prefer in the lab...  I prefer Linux and Netscape....
>but I want to make an unbiased decision.
>

In my experience (I've been round a few labs . . .) most molecular
biologists prefer to use Macs for their daily grind, and if you have a
Unix-based box running the central suite of programs (access can be via
X-windows as above, or Telnet or Versaterm or Netscape) then you'll make a
lot of people happy.  I think the important thing is not to have to shift
people away from their favoured way of doing things - if they already do
things in a certain way that is.

If the centralized server is not an option then go for the pile of
freebies at http://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/soft/molbio/Listings.html or one
of the commercial packages with a site licence.  

Why don't you go along to http://www.molbiol.ox.ac.uk/ for a solution that
was initially set up 89/90-ish and that doesn't care what platform uses
it?
 
Factor in support costs and you'll find that a Mac-based solution will
work out cheaper than Windows in the long run.  And bear in mind that
someone will disagree with whatever you decide . . .

Richard

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From: rh@mblab.gla.ac.uk (Robert Hartley)
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Subject: Re: MolBio OS?
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 10:21:17 +0000
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In article <36DCBD46.F20C8628@san.rr.com>, milton@san.rr.com wrote:

> Actually I have experience with many OSes, but I am trying to make a decision
> that impacts a large group of people.  I want to accommodate all the
> essential applications used in Molecular Biology.  The problem I'm having is
> that  this field tends to be Mac and unix based.  However, my gut feeling is
> to go with Microsoft products because of the global acceptance of the windows
> environment.

Ok Jeff. :-)
I can offer you a VERY impartial appraisal. Reason is, I prefer the
amazing Acorn RiscOS running on my RiscPC600 at home but use MacG3(mainly)
and sometimes wintel in work.

I would consider the MacOS as the most usefull in MolBiol. (The wintel
platform in my opinion has a dreadfull OS/abort retry fail). Besides, I
beleive a G3 can emmulate  windows to Pentium90 speed. Also Microsoft,
well they have a good maketing dept. :-)

If you are going for a windows enviroment consider the SGI NT workstation.
I has implemented NT into the world of RISC computing and runs NT at 4x
the speed of a high end CISC Pentium.

To be honest I would not consider a non-RISC machine if you require speed
(BUT SEE * BELOW). AND Intel have now got the  ARM "StrongARM" 233Mhz
chip(now at 388MHZ) RISC from an Acorn RiscPC. (This will run from two AAA
bateries and can be used in a PDA) I can see the demise of the Windows
dominance in general. The other alternative is to get a wintel box and put
Linux on it. This could co-host with Windows and you can run a Mac
Emmulator see 
www.ardi.com.

*However the first consideration is WHAT DO YOU WANT IT TO DO? then WHAT
SOFTWARE DOES THIS then WHAT DO I NEED TO RUN THIS SOFTWARE.

Remember the computer is a tool to HELP you work. NOT to dictate your work. :-) 

These views are my OWN and not gla.ac.uk

as I said I prefer something completely different. :-)

Cheers
Bob

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Centre for Cell Engineering,                        
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Joseph Black Building,                                
University of Glasgow,                                  
Glasgow.                                               
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  neuroviro <wordtank@hotmail.com> wrote:
> is there any demo version of the translator called Systran available
> somewhere on the net ?
>

The translation system on AltaVista search engine is Systran. That
system is called Babelfish and you can give it a test online at:

http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate?urltext=

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Mar 02 22:00:00 1999
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> From: Clemens Suter-Crazzolara <c.suter-crazzolara@dkfz-heidelberg.de>
> Subject: exon/intron prediction

> I am preparing a course, and therfore I am looking for programmes that
> allow intron/exon prediction. Until now I have found: genscan, frames,
> xpound, codonpreference, testcode, fgenes, orffinder and genlang.
> 
> Are there other programmes for this purpose out there ?
> 
> Thanks in advance, if possible mail to my e-mail address.

Jack Jenuth from base4 put together such a list, and put it up on their
www page, you may want to look at that.

http://telomere.base4.com/html/Joes_orfs.html

cheers,

f.

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Hello,

I am preparing a course, and therfore I am looking for programmes that
allow intron/exon prediction. Until now I have found: genscan, frames,
xpound, codonpreference, testcode, fgenes, orffinder and genlang.

Are there other programmes for this purpose out there ?

Thanks in advance, if possible mail to my e-mail address.

Clemens Suter-Crazzolara
Bioinformatics, DKFZ Heidelberg


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From: jacp1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Justin Powell)
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Subject: Re: MolBio OS?
Date: 3 Mar 1999 14:23:16 GMT
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Our lab is planning to obtain a new computer for doing bioinformatics
work, currently we use our own macs and unix boxes belonging to the
department.  We do mainly homology searches, protein motif searches,
function prediction and possibly some structural prediction.
It seems to me that the main determinant in our decision is is there any
software which we are likely to want to use in future which needs a unix
box to run on, or is everything available over the web these days?

Justin Powell

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Actually I have experience with many OSes, but I am trying to make a decision
that impacts a large group of people.  I want to accommodate all the
essential applications used in Molecular Biology.  The problem I'm having is
that  this field tends to be Mac and unix based.  However, my gut feeling is
to go with Microsoft products because of the global acceptance of the windows
environment.

I understand that file formats are text based... and while that does make the
migration of data quite seamless,  I am still having a problem researching
what platforms people prefer in the lab...  I prefer Linux and Netscape....
but I want to make an unbiased decision.

---thanks for your assistance.

Jeff


"Richard P. Grant" wrote:

> In article <36DB7DBD.51B54998@san.rr.com>, milton@san.rr.com wrote:
>
> >I'm really interested in finding some information on what platforms
> >people use in Molecular Biology... as I am currently having to grapple
> >with this decision.
> >
> >What operating system do you use?
> >
>
> Mac
>
> >What operating system would you prefer?
> >
> Mac
>
> >What browser do you prefer?
> >
> >
> NS4.5
>
> >It's unfortunate when a platform communication barrier gets in the way
> >of real research.
>
> Seeing as most molbiol programs exchange data in a text formatof one sort
> or another this is not  really a problem.
>
> >"...time to decide."
> >
> >Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>
> I would suggest that you pick the platform with which you are most
> familiar/happy/most productive on.  If you find you're not fighting the
> machine then your work will go more smoothly, and there is in fact a pile
> of molbiol software for all the platforms (except possibly Amstrad (-: ).
>
> Is your problem that you have no experience of different OSes or that
> you're not being allowed to have your first choice?  Or something else?
>
> Followups set.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
> --
> Richard P. Grant MA DPhil     |             rgrant at cmtech.co.uk
> work: www.cmtech.co.uk        |      home: www.avnet.co.uk/adastra
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In article <36dd216b.1021900445@news.itn.is>, helgi@NOSPAMdecode.is wrote:

>True, but lots of companies are now producing molbio
>applications for Windows and many are phasing out their
>Mac products. 

On what do you base that statement?

(I'm not making any comment about NT vs Mac software performance because
I've never tried running molbiol software on NT.  My only experience with
NT is extremely bad)

>You would regret moving to Macs within a few years.

On what basis do you make that inflammatory statement?


>Unix servers tend to mess up their storage of Mac files and 
>often ruin them for use by Macs afterwards.  NT on the other
>hand was designed from the ground up as a file server for
>the Mac and does a much better job of it.

Sorry, this is utter crap.  Where are you getting your data?  I'd go for
Unix over NT any day of the week.

> but beware of NT administered
>by Unix specialists.  

I'd turn that statement on its head.  I'd also beware of NT machines
adminstered by NT specialists.

>running stuff like ABI sequencers you will need Macs, but
>the ABIs come with Macs anyway.

Generally over-powered Macs that ABI recommend you don't use for anything else.

Get some iMacs, they're real cheap now and ideal for a networked environment.

R

-- 
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From: Harry Mangalam <mangalam@uci.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Local BLAST server - any experience on dual/quad Intel - Linux platforms
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:55:49 -0800
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Hi - I've been asked to eval setting up a local BLAST server.  For
compatibility with other requirements, the OS will be Linux, unless
someone can give me extremely good reasons not to.  

I'm considering using a dual Pentium II/Celeron, unless I can get
feedback that BLAST does not work well on such a system, in which case
we would run either a uni-PII/Celeron or if more $ can be scraped up, an
Alpha (but having experience with Linux/Alpha, I know some of the
problems with that approach).

So, does anyone out there have experience with BLAST on an SMP Intel box
(dual or quad (PPro or Xeon - I know that PII's can't go there) and if
so, on what kernel and what were the gotchas?

Also rec's on minimum memory for maximum efficiency would be
appreciated.

-- 
Cheers,
Harry

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In article <1kdjb7.p9n.ln@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de>, Cornelius Krasel
<krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:

> To put this soon-to-be OS flame war into a geographical perspective, one
> should hasten to add that most European labs tend to use Win* computers
> where U.S. labs tend to use Macs. The reason is simply that Apple USA
> has been much more supportive to the academic environment (and to customers
> in general) than for example Apple Germany. iMacs in the U.S. are priced
> competitively; iMacs in Germany are not.
> --Cornelius.

A good reminder.  In the labs I worked in or visited in the UK
I found that many people used PCs but *wanted* Macs (this was in
the days of Win3.1 and before widescale networking).
     Another phenomenon I noticed is that there appears to be
an east/west split in the U.S. when it comes to academic
computing with a preponderence of PCs on the east coast and
Macs on the west.  I am told this is because Apple's donation
of Macs to schools was predominantly in the west.

From observation people tend to be passionately loyal
to Macs, Linux, BSD, Solaris x86, OS/2, plain DOS, BeOS
etc. and there are good newsgroups for all.
     I have yet to hear anyone express loyalty towards
Win9x or NT but hear a great deal of criticism by those
who have to maintain them - "they are there - just
*deal* with them".
     Judge all posts accordingly.

I know of no "must have" molbio applications for Win9x.
There are some nice programs that run with Win3.1x
but these don't need Win9x.

There is an enormous amount of good UNIX open source
molbio software available that can be compiled with
open source tools (eg. gcc or egcs) so is available
for Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris and DOS (using DJGPP).

There don't appear to be any good cheap PC equivalents
of DNA Strider (GeneRunner was getting there before
it disappeared) or MacPlasMap (although I do like
Plasmid Processor).

     Have fun,
          Bernard

[Home: Linux, Solaris, DOS/Win3.11    Work: Mac, Win95]
-- 
Bernard P. Murray, PhD
Dept. Cell. Mol. Pharmacol., UCSF, San Francisco, USA

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Hello,

	I am a french student, and I am currently finishing  an Advanced
Professional Degree in Computer Sciences (Major Microscopic Imaging). and my
course ends with a training period of at least three months (contract from the
start of July until the end of September... but I can stay longer) in a
company. From this course, I acquired:

&#61691; 	an ability to quickly adapt myself to different programming
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&#61691; 	a precise understanding of computer systems' functions,
regarding
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(project managing, modeling, database building and managing).


Also, I chose the Microscopy Imaging optional module which allowed me to have
solid abilities regarding the differents systems for image acquisition
(microscopy X-ray, confocal, electronic and optic) and image processing
methods. This computing skills come in addition to a solid biological
background: I have a Master degree Cells Biology and Physiology, giving me
the possibility to analyse objectively biological problems.

	Interested for a long time in image analysis,  I took on a temporary
research fellowship in CNRS (Undergraduate level), regarding image analyses
methods for the study of red blood cells deformation. I am currently working
on the complete conception of a software for analysing image sequences using
an algorithm of optical flow, within the framework of my course. Eventually,
my professional aim is concerned with the conception of computing systems
applied to life sciences (medical applications, structural biochemistry,
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	Aware of your products and activity in this domain, I am able to bring
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If you can define them in IUPAC codes, tacg can find them (with
specified # of errors, in degenerate sequence of any length).  If you
want to run the commandline app, you can download it at:
ftp://mamba.bio.uci.edu/pub/tacg

If you want to use the somewhat less capable, but easier-to-use Web
interface, you can go to:
http://hornet.bio.uci.edu/~hjm/projects/tacg/tacg2.form.html

But you'll have to upload your own GCG-REBASE formatted file containing
the sequences you want to find.  There's an example of what you have to
do there.

Alternatively, there are many such programs that can do this, depending
on your sequence length (is is a KB or multiple Megabases?), complexity
of patterns (do you need to be able to search for a regular expression?
and IUPAC expression? a profile? with errors? both strands
simultaneously?), number of patters to search for at once time, whether
you need to be able to handle degenerate sequence input, etc.  

- the 'grep/egrep/agrep' family of regular expression matchers may be
good enough for you.
- grepseq is a very fast biosequence version of agrep, but has some
interface peculiarities.
- GCG's findpatterns is quite robust but it's ... GCG, and $ware.
- DNAStrider and most commercial apps have such capabilities built in,
but (strangely) many don't allow searching with errors or even with
IUPAC codes or even regular expressions.



jayakumar wrote:
>     Does anyone know of any softwares which can check a sequence for the
> presence of terminators, promoters, SD sequences etc.
-- 
Cheers,
Harry

Harry J Mangalam -- (949) 856 2899 -- mangalam@home.com

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Helgi Briem <helgi@NOSPAMdecode.is> wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:09:27 +0100, Cornelius Krasel
> <krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:
>>Microsoft does not offer products for the Molbio market.
>
> True, but lots of companies are now producing molbio
> applications for Windows and many are phasing out their
> Mac products.  In general the NT versions are faster
> and far more stable than the Mac versions..  We wouldn't
> touch Win95/98 workstations for obvious reasons, so I cannot
> comment on their performance.

I cannot say much about Molbio applications for desktop machines since
I touched the last demo versions maybe four to five years ago and I
assume (and hope) that they have advanced from there.

It is, however, clear that a PowerPC delivers more raw speed to a desktop
computer than a similarly priced Pentium chip. Therefore, the claim that
"NT versions are faster" than Mac versions is something which I find a
bit difficult to swallow. It is true that NT is probably more stable
since Apple has still not managed to implement a sensible memory protection
system into MacOS 8.5.

> Unix servers tend to mess up their storage of Mac files and 
> often ruin them for use by Macs afterwards.

We have a Linux box set up as a Mac fileserver and there have been
no problems so far.

To put this soon-to-be OS flame war into a geographical perspective, one
should hasten to add that most European labs tend to use Win* computers
where U.S. labs tend to use Macs. The reason is simply that Apple USA
has been much more supportive to the academic environment (and to customers
in general) than for example Apple Germany. iMacs in the U.S. are priced
competitively; iMacs in Germany are not.

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>>>>> "Justin" == Justin Powell <jacp1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> writes:

    Justin> Our lab is planning to obtain a new computer for doing
    Justin> bioinformatics work, currently we use our own macs and
    Justin> unix boxes belonging to the department.  We do mainly
    Justin> homology searches, protein motif searches, function
    Justin> prediction and possibly some structural prediction.  It
    Justin> seems to me that the main determinant in our decision is
    Justin> is there any software which we are likely to want to use
    Justin> in future which needs a unix box to run on, or is
    Justin> everything available over the web these days?

I'm going to refrain from making any OS recommendations in this thread
as the pros and cons have been summed up pretty well
already. (*nix.. oops, I couldn't help myself).

Given the same task two people may approach it with very different
tools and achieve the same result. One may like to point and click,
while the other will do the same analysis by shoving the data through
a shell script, and never the 'twain shall meet etc. All the better if
you can provide for both. It's relatively easy to recreate a foreign
GUI style on Linux, but a thankless task trying to recreate Unix
scripting on NT or a Mac.

grepping yesterday's release of the EBI Biocatalog (combined open
source, *ware & commercial) for OS support:

Unix/Sun 234,   Win 64,   Mac 60,   DOS 59,   VAX 41

The disadvantage of relying heavily on web-based services are the
obvious ones; services may come and go, slow responses, inefficient
data input through browers.

-- 

Keith James  --  kdj@sanger.ac.uk  --  http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/kdj
The Sanger Centre, Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambs CB10 1SA

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Andreas Milton wrote:
> 
> Actually I have experience with many OSes, but I am trying to make a decision
> that impacts a large group of people.  I want to accommodate all the
> essential applications used in Molecular Biology.  The problem I'm having is
> that  this field tends to be Mac and unix based.  However, my gut feeling is
> to go with Microsoft products because of the global acceptance of the windows
> environment.
> 
> I understand that file formats are text based... and while that does make the
> migration of data quite seamless,  I am still having a problem researching
> what platforms people prefer in the lab...  I prefer Linux and Netscape....
> but I want to make an unbiased decision.
> 

When I did set up my lab in 1990, I decided that is did NOT want
to support multiple OSes, not just because of the knowledge
and time required to master and work with each different OS,
but also because I wanted to avoid fragmentation of data. That
is, I didn't want data scattered across different machines,
in different versions and formats. I wanted wanted things
to be easily accessible across a network.

I chose Sun Unix, and have been enjoying it ever since.
Our lab runs on the thin client model, where everything resides
on the server, and people login via X-terminals. There's
no such thing as hard disk crashses destroying data, no
competetion to get onto a particular PC that has important
data or programs. Anyone can do anything from any terminal.

I won't go into all the details for it, because I have
an entire Web site on the subject:

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~psgendb

P.S. One response to this post suggested that it may not
be necessary to consider whether Mol. Bio. programs 
ran on your desktop OS, because everything was available
at Web sites anyway. I couldn't disagree more. Web
browsers are convenient for Web browsing, but the
Web interface is extremely limited, compared to a
fully integrated desktop. For anything other than the
most trivial tasks with a single sequence, you
need the convenience
of being able to work with locally-installed software
in your own directory hierarchy.

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HI

What are the best 2D predictors availible ?
I am both looking for general predictors and specialized, such as only
for helices, strands etc.

Baldur Mar Bragason



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>
>
>HI
>
>What are the best 2D predictors availible ?
>I am both looking for general predictors and specialized, such as only
>for helices, strands etc.
>
>Baldur Mar Bragason
>
>

there are many try for example

Jpred on http://circinus.ebi.ac.uk:8081/

Miri

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Department of Biochemistry      Tel   : (+44) 01223 766018
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On Wed, 03 Mar 1999 15:16:11 -0800,
    Bernard P. Murray, PhD (bpmurray*STUFFER*@socrates.ucsf.edu) wrote:

For an "OS-war", your thoughts were stated very objectively!

>There don't appear to be any good cheap PC equivalents
>of DNA Strider (GeneRunner was getting there before
>it disappeared) or MacPlasMap (although I do like
>Plasmid Processor).

For what its worth, DNA Strider (v 1.2) does run under 
Executor/Linux and Executor/DOS.

And if you currently use a multi-boot Linux/Win32 system, take
a look at VMWare, which is due to debut at LinuxWorld.  They
claim to run Linux and NT *concurrently*.
http://www.vmware.com

Later,
Ashok
-- 
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McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research
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In article <36DE9FD2.2B9E24C@pitt.edu>, rdudley+@pitt.edu wrote:

> You'll get the same
>crap about power drills, too.

Although not many people dare to tell me my Bosch hammer drill doesn't
work . . .

;-)

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We are trying to display DNA sequence, derived protein sequence and introns
in a publication type figure.  None of the Mac programs I have or have
demo's of know how to find or display introns so that the protein
translation ignores that region of the gene when displayed.  Do any of the
current programs #1 find introns, or #2, know how to create a display that
deals with them correctly. Thanks- Dave

Dr. David Knecht
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University of Connecticut
75 N. Eagleville Rd.
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m.hirshberg@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk wrote:
>>
>>What are the best 2D predictors availible ?
>>I am both looking for general predictors and specialized, such as only
>>for helices, strands etc.
>
>there are many try for example
>
>Jpred on http://circinus.ebi.ac.uk:8081/

 Two of the best are: 

 PHD: http://www.embl-heidelberg.de/predictprotein/ppDoPred.html

 DSC: http://bonsai.lif.icnet.uk/bmm/dsc/

 TW

 

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Andreas Milton wrote:

> Actually I have experience with many OSes, but I am trying to make a decision
> that impacts a large group of people.  I want to accommodate all the
> essential applications used in Molecular Biology.  The problem I'm having is
> that  this field tends to be Mac and unix based.  However, my gut feeling is
> to go with Microsoft products because of the global acceptance of the windows
> environment.
>
> I understand that file formats are text based... and while that does make the
> migration of data quite seamless,  I am still having a problem researching
> what platforms people prefer in the lab...  I prefer Linux and Netscape....
> but I want to make an unbiased decision.
>
> ---thanks for your assistance.
>
> Jeff

If you have a couple of computers you can use, I would call some software vendors
and get demos of their software.  Let all the PIs play around and go with what
they like the best.

I am partial to Windows machines, but I have extensive experience on Macs as
well.  Which way the wind is blowing depends on who you ask.  One thing's for
sure--don't look for a solution to carry you 10 years down the road.  In about
2-3 years, you'll have to completely replace everything anyway, since the
software and hardware will have improved so much.  Look past the emotions run
amok, and go with what suits your needs and the needs of the PIs the best.
Someone will always be hurt because their OS was insulted.  You'll get the same
crap about power drills, too.

We have a mixed department of Windows, Mac and Suns.  There isn't much trouble
transferring files between them using common formats and the network drives.
Mac's ANSI table is different than Windows, so you may have to go to a very low
common denominator sometimes--either way, you're in for a little reformatting.

I was fascinated by VectorNTI for Windows, as were a lot of people here.
However, since we get "free" access to GCG on the Pittsburgh Supercomputing
Center, we went with that.  GCG does have a WWW interface in the new version.
Haven't tried it yet, since PSC doesn't have it up yet.  They have a free demo,
as do a number of other companies.

Hope this helps.  If you need a few URLs for demos, let me know, and I'll passa
long what I've collected.

rich

--- --- --- -- -- -- --- --- ---
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Research Specialist V
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University of Pittsburgh
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Subject: Re: Secondary Structure Prediction
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:59:57 GMT
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In article <7bmcpu$rhp@web3.tcd.ie>,
  tpwalsh@acer.gen.tcd.ie (Urmhumhan) wrote:
> m.hirshberg@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk wrote:
> >>
> >>What are the best 2D predictors availible ?
> >>I am both looking for general predictors and specialized, such as only
> >>for helices, strands etc.
> >
> >there are many try for example
> >
> >Jpred on http://circinus.ebi.ac.uk:8081/
>
>  Two of the best are:
>
>  PHD: http://www.embl-heidelberg.de/predictprotein/ppDoPred.html
>
>  DSC: http://bonsai.lif.icnet.uk/bmm/dsc/
>

The following server is supposedly the most accurate currently available:

PSIPRED: http://globin.bio.warwick.ac.uk/psipred


Gary Marcher

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To be upfront and honest, I am looking for someone who can perform topological
geometry for a natural resources project.  The money is good
(high five figures to low six figure) and the locale is great (Austin,Texas).
Please pass this around to those you think might be interested.  Email me at:
charliejazz@yahoo.com.  I will ask forgiveness now for possibly violating the
format of this user group.

Here is the profile:

Geometry Modeling Software Engineer

Develop new model preparation and meshing capability for a reservoir
simulator.  This smulator is a new-technology, 4D (space-time) finite element
analysis-based oil reservoir simulator for the petroleum industry. Key
features of the simulator include automatic mesh generation, and automatic
mesh adaption in 4D.

Technical areas for this position are in FEA pre-processing, including:
midsurface generation, model idealization, topology simplification, geometry
repair, geometry meshing, assembly meshing and stitching. This person will
interact with application engineers and customers to
understand end user requirements.  Then functional and design specifications
will be developed and the projects coded and tested.  The person will be
expected to work independently and in teams, seeking help
and cooperation where needed.  Occasionally, the job can involve assisting
customers in deploying the new technology.

JOB REQUIREMENTS The qualified candidate will have a degree in Math, Physics
or Engineering.  An advanced degree or several years of large scale,
engineering software development is required.

The candidate must be proficient in C or C++ programming on large scale
projects.  Experience in rigorous software development methodology is
required.  Object Oriented methodology and Windows NT experience is a plus.

The candidate must have experience developing mesh generation software.
Applicant must understand the fundamentals of the use of FEA in structural,
CFD or manufacturing analysis.	Knowledge or experience in applying FEA to
fluid dynamics problems is a real plus. Experience with commercial CAE
packages is a plus.

The candidate must have experience in at least one of the following areas:
free form surface modeling, solid modeling, meshing, or some complex geometry
and topology based application.  Knowledge of CAD geometry, topology and
numerical methods is required.

Good oral and written communication skill in English is an absolute necessity.

Other keywords:  Computational fluid dynamics (CFD), Finite element analysis
(FEA or FEM for F.E. Method), Computational grids, geometry meshing,
Unstructured meshing.



Thanks for your help.  Let me know if anyone might be interested.

Charlie Wirt




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Justin Powell wrote:
> 
> Our lab is planning to obtain a new computer for doing bioinformatics
> work, currently we use our own macs and unix boxes belonging to the
> department.  We do mainly homology searches, protein motif searches,
> function prediction and possibly some structural prediction.
> It seems to me that the main determinant in our decision is is there any
> software which we are likely to want to use in future which needs a unix
> box to run on, or is everything available over the web these days?

Just to throw myself into this discussion...

I think UNIX systems offer the best software availability for what you want
to do.  In particular, SGI UNIX systems are very popular.  You can break
high-end software into three categories:

-Those that support several UNIX and non-UNIX platforms
-Those that support several UNIX platforms
-Those that require SGI

If you take an intersection of all the software you want to run, SGI is
often the only viable platform.  Your mileage may vary.

My suggestion is to look at the software you want to run now and get that. 
I don't think waiting 6 months for the release of program X for platform Y
is a good use of time.  Time is worth more than money in research...

Best
-- 
Benjamin Z. Goldsteen
Crystallography Program
Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation
405 271 8954 / 405 271 7953 (FAX)

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Hallo Leute, lernt uns kennen ?

    3 Irre Typen aus Salzgitter, außerdem Software-Gag-Programme für
Win95/NT
    ein echtes "Muss"

    http://diedrei.home.pages.de

Cu Euer 3m Team



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Looking for apointer to sources iof information on codelocks, the kind that
plug into the par port and meter program usage.   I'm proposing to
distribute an applicaton in tha form and would appreciate any help/or
directions 
to an info source
TT

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From: Lchauvet74@aol.com
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Laurent CHAUVET
14 rue Marcel Porte
38100 GRENOBLE, France
&#61481; Tel : 33 4 7647 1478
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Hello,

	I am a french student, and I am currently finishing  an Advanced
Professional Degree in Computer Science (Major Microscopic Imaging). and my
course ends with a training period of at least three months (contract from the
start of July until the end of September... but I can stay longer) in a
company. From this course, I acquired:

- an ability to quickly adapt myself to different programming languages,
- a precise understanding of computer systems' functions, regarding software
  and hardware,
- a good knowledge of the problems specific to software engineering (project
  managing, modeling, database building and managing).

Also, I chose the Microscopy Imaging optional module which allowed me to have
solid abilities regarding the differents systems for image acquisition
(microscopy X-ray, confocal, electronic and optic) and image processing
methods. This computing skills come in addition to a solid biological
background: I have a Master degree Cells Biology and Physiology, giving me
the possibility to analyse objectively biological problems.

	Interested for a long time in image analysis,  I took on a temporary
research fellowship in CNRS (Undergraduate level), regarding image analyses
methods for the study of red blood cells deformation. I am currently working
on the complete conception of a software for analysing image sequences using
an algorithm of optical flow, within the framework of my course. Eventually,
my professional aim is concerned with the conception of computing systems
applied to life sciences (medical applications, structural biochemistry,
biology, pharmacology).

	I am able to bring to you my skills as a trainee and thereby take
profit of your experience in order to achieve my professional aim.

	If you have any opportunity for an internship in this field, please
send me an e-mail (my address is Lchauvet74@aol.com) . If you wish to get more
informations about my education, take a look at my resume on my Web site at
this address : http://www.multimania.com/chauvetl/

Thanks,

Laurent CHAUVET

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From owner-software@net.bio.net Sun Mar 07 22:00:00 1999
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Subject: Canadian Bioinformatics Workshop Series
Date: 8 Mar 1999 10:52:27 -0800
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The Canadian Genetic Diseases Network and the Biotechnology Human
Resources Council of Canada present a pilot series of practical
computer-based workshops on "Bioinformatics" at the University of
Calgary  on August 2 - 14, 1999.


With instructors:

. Christopher Hogue, Mt. Sinai Hospital, Toronto
. Francois Major, UniversitÇ de MontrÇal
. Francis Ouellette, Centre for Mol. Medicine & Therapeutics, UBC
. Christoph Sensen, Inst. for Marine Biosciences, NRC
. David Wishart, University of Alberta


>>>> WHO SHOULD APPLY

People with an interest in bioinformatics with either a computer
science/engineering or life science background.  The workshop will give
an introduction to the methodology and algorithms that underlie
successful development and use of these tools.

>>>> ADVANCED WORKSHOPS

Participants will also be able to take three continuing one-week
workshops on Genomics (Vancouver, January 2000), Proteomics (Toronto,
May 2000) and Developing the Tools (Montreal, July 2000).

For more information and to apply, please visit our website at:

http://www.cmmt.ubc.ca/bioinformatics

regards to all,

francis

--
| B.F. Francis Ouellette                     tel: (604) 875-3815 | 
| Director, Bioinformatics Core Facility     fax: (604) 875-3800 | 
| Centre for Molecular Medicine and Therapeutics, UBC, Canada    |
| francis@cmmt.ubc.ca                     http://www.cmmt.ubc.ca |





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From: "jayakumar" <jakku@mrna.tn.nic.in>
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Dear fellow netters
    Does anyone know of any Bacillus thuringiensis groups in Germany?  or
any website where I can search for such groups doing research in particular
fields in Germany.
    I wish to do my DAAD fellowship sponsored short term project in one of
these labs.
Thanks in advance
jakku
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If you work in a lab as I do, you should try out the Chemical Calculator
program which I wrote.

Chemical Calculator (tm) is a shareware program designed for chemists,
biologists and other scientific professionals. Its main purpose is to
perform the calculations involved in the calculation of the amount of
reagent to use when mixing up solutions.  Chemical Calculator is a shareware
program.  You can use a fully functional version for 90 days and if you like
it you can register it for $30.00.  If you don't register Chemical
Calculator you can still use a slightly disabled version for free after the
90 day trial period.  Requires Windows 3.1 or later.  More information is
available on the Chemical Calculator Web Site: "http://www.erols.com/cbaba".
The program can also be downloaded from there.




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From: "S.W. Rasmussen" <swr@crc.dk>
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New revision of DNATools is available at

http://www.crc.dk/phys/A01B04_dnatools.htm

Regards

Soeren

-- 
Soeren W. Rasmussen, Dr. scient.
Department of Physiology
Carlsberg Laboratory
Copenhagen, Denmark
swr@crc.dk, http://www.crc.dk/phys

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Dear Users
    some of my mails had a Happy99.exe virus attached to it.  I spotted it
in my system yesterday and have exterminated it.  I apologise if anybody got
infected by it.  The virus seemed to have got into my computer on 3/6/99
through a mail from the bionet newsgroup.  This virus is a harmless one and
does not do anything to your system.  All users please check up your win95
systems.
    You need to delete the wsock32.dll file in your windows/system directory
and rename the file wsock32.ska to wsock32.dll.  The virus creates the
wsock32.ska file.  Then delete the file ska.exe from your computer.
Probably it resides in the windows directory.  The Happy99.exe has to be
deleted too from the system.
    To protect your computer from re-infection you need just to set
Read-Only attribute for the WSOCK32.DLL file. The worm does not pay
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From: Jonathan Epstein <Jonathan_Epstein@nih.gov>
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Subject: publication quality alignments w/Motifs?
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 09:48:24 -0500
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Hi,

What do people out there use for producing publication-quality multiple
alignments?

In particular, I need to highlight some Motifs, and also should some
discontinuity in some of the sequences, where I don't want to show
hundreds of residues of uninteresting sequence.

I have a PC on my desk, and have access to numerous Unix hosts,
including one using GCG.  In a pinch, I can use a Mac running MacVector.

I need to get these diagrams out quickly, so am especially interested in
freeware and/or time-bombed demos.

I understand that Vector NTI is pretty well thought of these days for
Windoze users.  Does the demo version have the sorts of capabilities
which I mention?

TIA,

- Jonathan

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Hi,

You should try MView. It is an extremely flexible interface once you get
the hang of it. You can parse search outputs in very many different
ways.

http://mathbio.nimr.mrc.ac.uk/nbrown/mview/

Cheers,

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From: michael.baron@delete.this.bbsrc.ac.uk
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Dear all,

what programs exist for parsing or analysing the output from a
BALST/FASTA search? I have found BOB, MacBOB and Visual BLAST (which are
a great help). I would be particularly interested in a program that can
help me to take all or a subset of the matches easily into a single
multiple alignment.

Thanks for any information or pointers,

Michael


*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+

Michael D. Baron Ph.D. (michael.baron@bbsrc.ac.uk)

Senior Research Scientist
Institute for Animal Health
Ash Road,
Pirbright,
Surrey,
U.K.

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From: pingouin@crystal.u-strasbg.fr (Francois Jeanmougin)
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Subject: images for bio softwares needed
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	Sorry, but I'm not able to find a site with icons and other
	presentation images for biology softwares.

	Any hint?

				Thanks to all.
						François.
-- 
François Jeanmougin     | groupe de bioinformatique / bioinformatics groupe
tel:(+33) 3 88 65 32 71 | IGBMC BP 163 67404 Illkirch France

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In article <36E534B7.ACAB0E8D@nih.gov>,
	Jonathan Epstein <Jonathan_Epstein@nih.gov> writes:
> Hi,
> 
> What do people out there use for producing publication-quality multiple
> alignments?

	alscript.

> In particular, I need to highlight some Motifs, and also should some
> discontinuity in some of the sequences, where I don't want to show
> hundreds of residues of uninteresting sequence.

	I'm editing the .blc before running alscript to remove unwanted
	sequences and add "<nb of residues deleted>".

	You can find an example in :


Jeanmougin F, Wurtz JM, LeDouarin B, Chambon P, Losson R 
The bromodomain revisited 
Trends Biochem Sci 1997;Vol 22, Iss 5:151-153 

	There waas a GUI for alscript but I prefer "vi" or writing the
	suitable script. Ho, yes, it's scripting, but it does what you attempt
	to (WYGIWYG).

> I have a PC on my desk, and have access to numerous Unix hosts,
> including one using GCG.  In a pinch, I can use a Mac running MacVector.

	alscript produces high quality postscript output.

> I need to get these diagrams out quickly, so am especially interested in
> freeware and/or time-bombed demos.

	should be fast, just check alscript home page.

> I understand that Vector NTI is pretty well thought of these days for
> Windoze users.  Does the demo version have the sorts of capabilities
> which I mention?

	Dono.

					François.
-- 
François Jeanmougin     | groupe de bioinformatique / bioinformatics groupe
tel:(+33) 3 88 65 32 71 | IGBMC BP 163 67404 Illkirch France

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In article <36DD77A4.A62F9B42@uci.edu>, Harry Mangalam <mangalam@uci.edu> writes:
>Hi - I've been asked to eval setting up a local BLAST server.  For
>compatibility with other requirements, the OS will be Linux, unless
>someone can give me extremely good reasons not to.  
>
>I'm considering using a dual Pentium II/Celeron, unless I can get
>feedback that BLAST does not work well on such a system, in which case
>we would run either a uni-PII/Celeron or if more $ can be scraped up, an
>Alpha (but having experience with Linux/Alpha, I know some of the
>problems with that approach).
>
>So, does anyone out there have experience with BLAST on an SMP Intel box
>(dual or quad (PPro or Xeon - I know that PII's can't go there) and if
>so, on what kernel and what were the gotchas?

We've BLAST locally on a Dual PII 400 in a machine we got from VAResearch.
The kernel is close to RedHat 5.1.  VAR put in some stuff to support the
U2W drives, which were bleeding edge technology at the time we bought it. 
There is a thread parameter for BLASTALL, so it at least claims that it can 
use more than one processor at a time, but the PIIs can only go to dual
processor in any case.

>
>Also rec's on minimum memory for maximum efficiency would be
>appreciated.

Lots.  Running a query just against Genpept I've seen the blast process go 
over 128 Mb.  Our server has 256 Mb in it, so I didn't try running two 
BLAST jobs at once, lest it bog down swapping virtual in and out.  There 
may be a way to restrict memory safely, but blastall doesn't have an 
explicit switch for doing so.

Linux caches what it can automatically.  If this is to be a pure BLAST
server, and you can buy enough memory to keep the desired databases
entirely in memory, it will run much faster.  The effect shows up for FASTA
too, run it twice in a row against small database and it will be much
faster the second time. Pure memory caching is feasible for Swiss-Prot, or
maybe Genpept.  Seems like a lot of money if you want Genbank to stay in 
memory though!

The biggest job we've run on this box was 16000 BLASTP sequences against
Genept, which took 9 days, two hours, and some change, to complete. 

We don't have the disks striped yet, that should speed things up a bit.
Even so, the U2W disks are pretty fast. 

Regards,

David Mathog
mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu
Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech 

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Dear Dr. Baron,

If you are working with protein sequences, our program could help you.

We have developed a search program that  provide a multiple alignment
for selected matches from
BLAST output. This search program is called PIR Annotation-Sorted Search
(PASS). It searches the
PIR-International Protein Sequence Database and display the top BLAST
matches (up to100) with
annotation ( Superfamily, family, Species, Taxonamic. group and
Keywords). Full-length alignments
are available. You may then sort and display the results of your
original search in different ways and
view multiple alignments of sequences you select. The URL is
                      http://pir.georgetown.edu/pirwww/search/pass.html.

If you have any question on the program, please let us know. Also,
please send your suggestion to us
so that we can improve the program.

With the best regards,


Hongzhan Huang, Ph.D.
Senior Bioinformatics Scientist
Protein Information Resource
3900 Reservoir Rd., NW
Washington, DC 20007, USA

e-mail: huang@nbrf.georgetown.edu


> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:46:53 +0000
> From: michael.baron@delete.this.bbsrc.ac.uk
> To: bio-soft@net.bio.net
> Subject: BLAST output
>
> Dear all,
>
> what programs exist for parsing or analysing the output from a
> BALST/FASTA search? I have found BOB, MacBOB and Visual BLAST (which
are
> a great help). I would be particularly interested in a program that
can
> help me to take all or a subset of the matches easily into a single
> multiple alignment.
>
> Thanks for any information or pointers,
>
> Michael
>
>
> *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
>
> Michael D. Baron Ph.D. (michael.baron@bbsrc.ac.uk)
>
> Senior Research Scientist
> Institute for Animal Health
> Ash Road,
> Pirbright,
> Surrey,
> U.K.
>
>


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From: Armel Le Bail <lebail@aviion.univ-lemans.fr>
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Would it be possible to have access to more than one
successful example as provided with the PATSEE
package ?

Any advice about, and experience with PATSEE
is welcome (including data files).

A summary of answers (if any) will be made.

Thanks !

Armel Le Bail - Universite du Maine, Laboratoire des Fluorures,
CNRS ESA 6010, Av. O. Messiaen, 72085 Le Mans Cedex 9, France
http://www.cristal.org/



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> Given a 30 kb region of genomic DNA, and sequence start and stop info
> on dozens of different exons that are of specific interest within this
> sequence, what's the easiest way to draw a quick picture showing
> visually just where all of these exons are, with labels?

Dear Paula,

to graphically represent your sequence data, I would recommend you give
Sequin a try (it's free,  so all you are risking is some of your time,
although I know this can be a rare ressource for many).  Sequin is a
DNA  submission tool, but you yan use it to view (and the idea is also
to _review_before_you_submit) your data.  Sequin is a network 'aware'
tool (although it does work 'stand-alone' on your PC/Mac or unix box),
and there is in it a very powerful style manager which allows you
configure colors, labels, width of ligns and so on.  You can download
GenBank records, and see what they look like, make your own style
sheet and, of course, put in your own data.

Sequin is available from our friends at the NCBI:

http:///www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Sequin/

Where you will find help documentation, a quich startup guide, FAQ,
dowwnload info and the ability to add yourself to the sequin
notification e-mail list. There is also help available, at
info@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Because sequin is a sequence editinng tool, when you define new exons,
or new exon bounderies (which sequin doess not currently do) the
graphics is automatically updated -- it's actually a good idea to have a
graphics window up, as well as a text view of the GBFF (GenBank flat
file).

I know there are quite a few sequin users at Baylor, so maybe there is 
some local expertise you draw on ...

hope this helps,

francis


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> This is quite different from exon prediction. We already know where
> the sequences of interest are - we need a summary to which we can
> easily refer. Drawing a map either by hand or with the computational
> tools I know takes a huge amount of time, though. Is there an existing
> tool to make it quick and easy? 
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Paula E. Burch, Ph.D.             Molecular Biology Computation Resource
> Baylor College of Medicine, BCMM M220                voice: 713.798.6023  
> One Baylor Plaza, Houston, Texas 77030                 fax: 713.798.4279  
> http://mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu/pburch.html            email: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
> 
> 

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Hi Netters,

   Can anyone tell me what's the best way to easily access Mapmarker
exp/qtl from the web.  Alternatively, can I download a version of
Mapmaker which is compatible for running on a macintosh computer.

Thanks in advance,

Raja 
Raja

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Raja,

The Mac version of Mapmaker is available from Scott Tingey of Dupont.
Give me a day or so and I will dig up his email - it is most likely:

  svtingey@dupont.com

Hemant Chikarmane
Marine Biological Laboratory
Woods Hole MA  02543


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Given a 30 kb region of genomic DNA, and sequence start and stop info
on dozens of different exons that are of specific interest within this
sequence, what's the easiest way to draw a quick picture showing
visually just where all of these exons are, with labels?

This is quite different from exon prediction. We already know where
the sequences of interest are - we need a summary to which we can
easily refer. Drawing a map either by hand or with the computational
tools I know takes a huge amount of time, though. Is there an existing
tool to make it quick and easy? 

________________________________________________________________________
Paula E. Burch, Ph.D.             Molecular Biology Computation Resource
Baylor College of Medicine, BCMM M220                voice: 713.798.6023  
One Baylor Plaza, Houston, Texas 77030                 fax: 713.798.4279  
http://mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu/pburch.html            email: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu

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From: karplus@cse.ucsc.edu (Kevin Karplus)
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Subject: Re: Secondary Structure Prediction
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In article <7boo0n$knj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, plantscigroup@my-dejanews.com writes:
|> The following server is supposedly the most accurate currently available:
|> 
|> PSIPRED: http://globin.bio.warwick.ac.uk/psipred
|> 
|> Gary Marcher

At the CASP3 contest last December, two secondary-structure predictors
stood out as superior to the rest---PSIPRED was the best.

The second-best was a predictor that Christian Barrett and I wrote
that we have not released (it was a class project for Christian and a
recreational project for me).  We hope to release a real
secondary-structure predictor later this year, combining Christian's
work with two other predictors we've been developing at UCSC.  Until
that comes on-line, PSIPRED is definitely your best bet.



-- 
Kevin Karplus 	karplus@cse.ucsc.edu	http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~karplus
life member (LAB, Adventure Cycling, American Youth Hostels)
Effective Cycling Instructor #218-ck

-- 
Kevin Karplus 	karplus@cse.ucsc.edu	http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~karplus
life member (LAB, Adventure Cycling, American Youth Hostels)
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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Mar 09 22:00:00 1999
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From: solovyev@sanger.ac.uk ("Victor Solovyev")
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Subject: New gene-finding program FGENES, FGENESH .. installed at BCM
Date: 10 Mar 1999 10:38:48 -0800
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New gene-finding program FGENES, FGENESH,
           FGENESP, BESTORF are installed
at the Baylor Collge of Medicine (USA) Search Launcher WEB server

   http://kiwi.imgen.bcm.tmc.edu:8088/search-launcher/launcher.html

 The programs can analyze genomic sequence up to 1.5 MB and
  file with the sequence in FASTA format can be loaded

 Go to:
*  BCM Gene Finder
*  BCM protein secondary structure prediction

  Programs have been developed by Victor Solovyev and Asaf Salamov
for  multiple gene/best ORF prediction in human/plant genomic DNA

Gene-finding WEB page:
 http://dot.imgen.bcm.tmc.edu:9331/gene-finder/gf.html
Secondary structure prediction and prosite patterm search WEB:
 http://dot.imgen.bcm.tmc.edu:9331/pssprediction/pssp.html

The programs also can be run  at http://genomic.sanger.ac.uk/ of our
           Computational Genomic Group WEB server


-- 
Victor Solovyev
The Sanger Centre, Hinxton, Cambridge CB10 1SA, UK
Email: solovyev@sanger.ac.uk  http://genomic.sanger.ac.uk
Phone: 44-1223-494799  FAX:   44-1223-494919

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From: phains@proteome.org.au (Peter Hains)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: publication quality alignments w/Motifs?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:40:57 GMT
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Jonathan,

I can thoroughly recommend Genedoc for Win3.11 or Win9X available at 
www.cris.com/~ketchup/genedoc.shtml

Peter

In article <36E534B7.ACAB0E8D@nih.gov>, Jonathan Epstein 
<Jonathan_Epstein@nih.gov> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>What do people out there use for producing publication-quality multiple
>alignments?
>
>In particular, I need to highlight some Motifs, and also should some
>discontinuity in some of the sequences, where I don't want to show
>hundreds of residues of uninteresting sequence.
>
>I have a PC on my desk, and have access to numerous Unix hosts,
>including one using GCG.  In a pinch, I can use a Mac running MacVector.
>
>I need to get these diagrams out quickly, so am especially interested in
>freeware and/or time-bombed demos.
>
>I understand that Vector NTI is pretty well thought of these days for
>Windoze users.  Does the demo version have the sorts of capabilities
>which I mention?
>
>TIA,
>
>- Jonathan




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From owner-software@net.bio.net Tue Mar 09 22:00:00 1999
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From: "K. Quandt" <quandt@gsf.de>
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Subject: DiAlign available online
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:15:57 +0100
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We would like to announce the availability of an online
version of the multiple alignment program DiAlign
on the Genomatix web server at

http://genomatix.gsf.de/cgi-bin/dialign/dialign.pl

DiAlign relies on comparing whole segments of DNA or protein
sequences instead of comparing single residues. Pairwise as well
as multiple alignments are constructed from gapfree pairs of
segments (so-called `diagonals').

DiAlign does not use any gap penalty, thus avoiding this
critical parameter. Consequently, the program is able to
detect isolated local homologies that can not be detected
by standard multiple alignment methods.

New features include a new user interface and 
an optional color-coding of the alignment output.

The use of this software is free for non-commercial use!

Users with a commercial affiliation interested in using or obtaining
DiAlign please contact Genomatix Software at genomatix@gsf.de .

-- 
Kerstin Quandt
quandt@gsf.de
Genomatix Software GmbH        http://genomatix.gsf.de
Karlstrasse 55
80333 Muenchen, Germany

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From: bpmurray*STUFFER*@socrates.ucsf.edu (Bernard P. Murray, PhD)
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Subject: Re: drawing a map
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:04:57 -0700
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In article <7c67qa$bg7@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, pburch@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu
(Paula Burch) wrote:

> Given a 30 kb region of genomic DNA, and sequence start and stop info
> on dozens of different exons that are of specific interest within this
> sequence, what's the easiest way to draw a quick picture showing
> visually just where all of these exons are, with labels?
> 
> This is quite different from exon prediction. We already know where
> the sequences of interest are - we need a summary to which we can
> easily refer. Drawing a map either by hand or with the computational
> tools I know takes a huge amount of time, though. Is there an existing
> tool to make it quick and easy? 

I don't know if this is quite what you mean but when I
had to do this I used a plasmid drawing program in
"linear" mode and used a "gene" or "insert" to
represent each exon.  Its been a while so I can't
remember exactly which program I used.
     Bernard
-- 
Bernard P. Murray, PhD
Dept. Cell. Mol. Pharmacol., UCSF, San Francisco, USA

From owner-software@net.bio.net Wed Mar 10 22:00:00 1999
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From: Alan Williams <Alan@Avocado.UCR.edu>
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Subject: GDE on Linux
Date: 10 Mar 1999 23:33:57 GMT
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I have been setting up some molbio software on several linux machines and
have several questions regarding GDE:

First off, I am using GDE 2.2.

I have noticed an anoying bug when cutting and pasting whole sequences.
On the second cut the program crashes.  Has anyone else encountered this
bug? Any fixes?

Less important: Has anyone put together some good .GDEmenus (and any 
necessary scripts) for interfacing to alscript, phylip, clustal, tacg, ... ? 
Any menu segments would be appreciated.  What every I come up with in
the end I will make available here.

Thanks,
Alan Williams

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Dept. of Botany and Plant Sciences     chance favors the prepared mind."  
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