From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Feb 20 22:00:00 1995
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From: kristoff@BIONET.IG.COM (David Kristofferson)
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Subject: test of bio-srs@net.bio.net
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test of bio-srs@net.bio.net; please ignore.

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Feb 20 22:00:00 1995
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From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson)
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This is a test of bionet.software.srs and the news-to-mail gateway.
This newsgroup is not yet ready for use.  Please refrain from posting
until you see the opening announcement.

Thank you.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net



From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Feb 20 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!NET.BIO.NET!kristoff
From: kristoff@NET.BIO.NET (Dave Kristofferson)
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Subject: Re: Feedback SRS --> EBI ?
Date: 21 Feb 1995 10:28:04 -0800
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> I am presently seeing SRS updating its indexes in a window in the corner
> of my screen, and I start dreaming at some mechanism that would allow
> the database people to be aware of the parsing errors discovered by SRS,
> which generally point to minor inconsistencies with the "legal" formats
> of the fields.
> Could some kind of diff file be generated on the fly, Thure ?
> 
> Robert Herzog
> rherzog@ulb.ac.be
> Belgian EMBnet Node
> 
> 

This group is not yet ready for use.  Please refrain from further
posts until we have finished our tests.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Feb 20 22:00:00 1995
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From: rherzog@dec5 (Robert Herzog)
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Subject: Feedback SRS --> EBI ?
Date: 21 Feb 1995 11:30:30 GMT
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I am presently seeing SRS updating its indexes in a window in the corner
of my screen, and I start dreaming at some mechanism that would allow
the database people to be aware of the parsing errors discovered by SRS,
which generally point to minor inconsistencies with the "legal" formats
of the fields.
Could some kind of diff file be generated on the fly, Thure ?

Robert Herzog
rherzog@ulb.ac.be
Belgian EMBnet Node

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Feb 20 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!daresbury!bioftp.unibas.ch!rc1.vub.ac.be!dec5!rherzog
From: rherzog@dec5 (Robert Herzog)
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Subject: test
Date: 21 Feb 1995 09:45:55 GMT
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just a test...

What was happening at Skirbal, New York ?
Why is Rehovoth not on the list ?

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Feb 20 22:00:00 1995
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From: David Kristofferson <kristoff@bionet.ig.com>
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test of bio-srs@daresbury.ac.uk; please ignore.

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Feb 21 22:00:00 1995
Newsgroups: bionet.software.gcg,bionet.software.srs
Path: biosci!daresbury!bioftp.unibas.ch!doelz
From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Subject: Re: On another note<STRINGSEARCH> (FROM Re: Automatic translation)
Message-ID: <1995Feb22.081314.6981@comp.bioz.unibas.ch>
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Michael J. Weise (weise@BSCR.UGA.EDU) wrote:
: >From: dj.saul@auckland.ac.nz (Dave Saul)
: >Subject: Re: Automatic translation
: >
: >On another note, it would be nice if stringsearch could search for
: >specific fields in the headers.

:         At least it should be made to ignore features table entries that show
: peptide translations.  Doing a 'full record search' with a string that is a
: partial word can get you a 'hit' because that string is found in the features
: table translation.  You initially think Stringsearch has located a database
: entry based on a keyword, but that's not the case.

GCG 8.1 is expected to have a SRS-derived program which can do such searches. 
SRS from Thure Etzold already today comes with 'getz' which can search both 
All-Text and any field of the database which is indexed in SRS. A networked 
version is under development for the ASCII interface, but SRSWWW provides 
these capabilities already today. Please contact me individually per email 
if you are interested in providing feedback for a networked ascii-text version.

Regards
Reinhard 


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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Feb 22 22:00:00 1995
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From: biohelp@net.bio.net (BIOSCI Administrator)
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Subject: BIO-SRS/bionet.software.srs is ready!
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The BIO-SRS/bionet.software.srs newsgroup is ready for operation.

PLEASE NOTE that many USENET sites do not allow automatic creation of
new USENET groups!!!  If you do not see bionet.software.srs in your
newsreader within another day or two, ask your news system
administrator to act on our "newgroup" message to enable the group at
your site.  We have already done several tests and are certain that
the group is currently propagating around the network.  If he/she can
not find the newsgroup message, have them retrieve the bionet
checkgroups message from the anonymous FTP area on net.bio.net in
pub/BIOSCI/doc/bionet-checkgroups-msg.  This file contains the latest
list of bionet USENET newsgroups and can be used to update your bionet
distribution.  If the newgroup did not arrive at your site, it may
also be necessary for your news administrator to contact the upstream
computer site providing you with your newsfeed and determine if they
acted on the newgroup message.

Subscribing to this group:
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IF YOU USE USENET NEWS: you need do nothing other than participate in
bionet.software.srs when it appears in your newsreader.  Depending
upon your news software, this may entail you having to answer a prompt
indicating that you want to subscribe.  You might also try the command
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IF YOU ARE LOCATED IN EUROPE, AFRICA, OR CENTRAL ASIA: please send the
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to receive news postings, and then send
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Leave the Subject: line of the message blank and enter the following
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How to look at archives of the list:
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You can access the BIOSCI archives via WWW/Mosaic.  The URL is
http://www.bio.net/.  After clicking on the BIOSCI archives link, look
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Archives for BIO-SRS/bionet.software.srs are also kept in the
anonymous FTP account at net.bio.net [134.172.2.69].  Look in the
directory pub/BIOSCI/BIO-SRS for posting archives.  Each file is
assigned a date such as 9312 for December 1993.  Please note that ours
is a UNIX system and all file and directory names are case-sensitive,
i.e., upper case file names are different from lower case names.

You can also access these same files via Gopher if you start a gopher
session using net.bio.net as your gopher server.  Gopher also allows
you to view the individual messages within each monthly archive file.
The files are in the BIO-SRS directory.  Postings to
bionet.software.srs are also WAIS indexed and can be searched via
either gopher or WAIS at our site.  In gopher the option at
net.bio.net is "Search Bionet USENET Articles" and in WAIS one should
use the WAIS source biosci.src.  This is a WAIS index of all
BIOSCI/bionet messages including this newsgroup.  Please see the
BIOSCI FAQ for details.  The FAQ can be requested from
biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Once again, if you have any administrative questions that require
personal assistance, please address them to biosci-help@net.bio.net in
the U.S. or biosci@daresbury.ac.uk in the UK.

Best wishes for a successful newsgroup!

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

