From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 01 23:00:00 1997
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From: Filip Fuma <fumaf1@phu815.um.us.sbphrd.com>
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Subject: Query Form Page "Use view" selection
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 17:12:43 -0400
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In the Query Form page, the default predefined 
view is "* Names only *".

Given a databank, is there any way to change the default view 
from "* Names only *" to another view which is applicable to that
databank?
 
Filip Fuma
Senior Software Engineer
Advanced Information Technology
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals R&D

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 12:52:02 -0600
From: Reinhard.doelz@pharma.novartis.com
Subject: fasta indexing in SRS
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I'd like to get information on two issues:
1) Has someone created an icarus file for fasta files or fasta-
formatted GCG databases?
2) Has someone successfully used srs5.05 for genbank/gcg binary indexed in
gcg (9)?

Thanks for any pointer, hint, code and suggestions.
Regards
Reinhard

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Thu Oct 02 23:00:00 1997
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From: dudgeon@britbio.co.uk (Tim Dudgeon)
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Subject: parsing confusion: for icarus gurus only
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Hi,

Could someone explain to me why this works

#!/bin/env icarus
$rules={

  entry:    ~ {$In:[file:text] $Out pre{$Skip:0}}
              ('>' {$Not} ln)* 
              '>' {$entryFip=$Fip $Wrt}
              ('>' {$Not} ln {$App})*
            ~
  ln:       ~ /[^\n]*\n/  ~
}
if:$TestMode {
  $job = $JobNew:[prod:$rules skip:" " 
    fileName:'/fasta/format/file']
  while:$JobHasInput:$job {
   $JobTokens:[$job name:entry print:1] 
    $JobNext:$job
  }
}

but this doesn't, because it only gets the first entry in the file

#!/bin/env icarus
$rules={
  data:     ~ {$In:[file:text] $Out pre{$Skip:0}}
              ln {$Wrt} (ln {$App})*
            ~

  entry:    ~ {$In:data $Out}
              ('>' {$Not} ln)* 
              '>' {$entryFip=$Fip $Wrt}
              ('>' {$Not} ln {$App})*
            ~
 
  ln:       ~ /[^\n]*\n/  ~
}
if:$TestMode {
  $job = $JobNew:[prod:$rules skip:" " 
    fileName:'/fasta/format/file']
  while:$JobHasInput:$job {
   $JobTokens:[$job name:entry print:1] 
    $JobNext:$job

  }
}


The example is a bit contrived, but I need to break up a file into bits
before parsing because the data for each entry is non-contiguous, and I
can't get it to work.

Many thanks for suggestions

Tim



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Hi Tim,

One posible fault I could detect is that you try to 
set a file-pointer when your input is not a file but
a token-table. Thus no file pointers are set and only
the first entry is found (Fip=0 -> begin of file)

Regards,

Ewoud
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Oct 06 23:00:00 1997
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 05:01:26 -0600
From: Tim Dudgeon <dudgeon@britbio.co.uk>
Subject: Re: srscheck: indexing emblnew w/o embl
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OK, I fixed it now. the problem was not with SRS, but with the GCG
script that built the embl updates, which did a

chmod +w `name -f EMBLDir`/*.*

This had the effect of tricking srscheck into thinking all of embl
had been updated, even though the date stamps on the embl files
were not changed.

The answer:
either put embl updates in a different directory to the embl
release or change the offending line to

chmod +w `name -f EMBLDir`/em_new.*

Cheers
Tim

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Oct 07 23:00:00 1997
From: alexander_tress@student.uni-ulm.de (Alexander Tress)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: srsbuild: 7864 Memory fault
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 18:01:04 GMT
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dudgeon@britbio.co.uk (Tim Dudgeon) wrote:

Hello !

>I've started getting core dumps during building indexes for emblnew:

>...no. 323100, SAZ83159
>...no. 323400, SCL8083
>...no. 323700, SCYBR031W
>...no. 324000, SCYDL065C
>...no. 324300, SCYGL118C
>/usr/local/srs5_05/srs/etc/srsupdate: 7864 Memory fault - core dumped

>Has anyone seen this and know the answer?

The 'srsupdate' is only a script with several calls from the
executable 'srsbuild'.

I got the same error while compressing the previously build index
which is issued later in the 'srsupdate'-script.

Make the following steps ( one of this will solve the problem )

1. Check the memory-utilization, perhaps you have to increase the
swapsize ( unfortunately the perfomance will decrease dramatically
while swaping )

2. If there is enough virtual memory check your user-limits ( ulimit
-a ). Set the values to ulimited if possible or to the highest
possible value.

Point 2 solved the problem I had with srsupdate on a DEC-Station with
512MB RAM and 1GB Swapsize ( indexed file : 350MB, 250000 records ). 


Regards, Alex



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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 08 23:00:00 1997
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From: Robert Herzog <rherzog@ulb.ac.be>
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Subject: SRS 5 and "include in list option"
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 11:13:17 +0100
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Hello,
I am puzzled by the curious behaviour of SRS5 when it is asked to
produce results including some fields, by using the "Include in list"
check boxes.
I am not aware of a discussion about this on this list. (there is too
much noise from the sex fans...)
I get a proper answer from the searches in PIR and Swissprot on our
server, but for the first entry, the bank ID is shown in capitals, and
for all the next, in small lettres.
like this : (copy-pasted from netscape)
    SWISSPROT:A1AF_CAVPO 

ID   A1AF_CAVPO     STANDARD;      PRT;   403 AA.
DE   ALPHA-1-ANTIPROTEINASE F PRECURSOR (ALPHA-1-ANTITRYPSIN) (ALPHA-1-
DE   PROTEINASE INHIBITOR) (APF) (FRAGMENT).
OS   CAVIA PORCELLUS (GUINEA PIG).


    swissprot:A1AS_CAVPO 

ID   A1AS_CAVPO     STANDARD;      PRT;   405 AA.
DE   ALPHA-1-ANTIPROTEINASE S PRECURSOR (ALPHA-1-ANTITRYPSIN) (ALPHA-1-
DE   PROTEINASE INHIBITOR) (APS).
OS   CAVIA PORCELLUS (GUINEA PIG).


    swissprot:A1AT_SHEEP 

ID   A1AT_SHEEP     STANDARD;      PRT;   416 AA.
DE   ALPHA-1-ANTIPROTEINASE PRECURSOR (ALPHA-1-ANTITRYPSIN) (ALPHA-1-
DE   PROTEINASE INHIBITOR).
OS   OVIS ARIES (SHEEP).

When I try a search with "Include from list" on our EMBL databank, I get
only the first entry, completetly, and the ID of the second entry.
Thereafter, all is blank. Like this (copy/pasted)
		
    EMBL:ASPPRCA 

ID   ASPPRCA    standard; DNA; PRO; 1952 BP.
DE   Anabaena sp.PCC7120 prcA gene


    embl:EC82K 

The same search without asking for "Include..." is complete.

We index the GCG files SRS.

The problem exists on several other servers (Pasteur Paris, SEQNET,
Oxford,...) but others (EBI, Infobiogen, Heidelberg, ...) behave
normally. We have 5.05 running.

Comments ?

I send copy of this to the EMBnet tech manager and to Thure himself...

Robert Herzog

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Robert Herzog wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am puzzled by the curious behaviour of SRS5 when it is asked to
> produce results including some fields, by using the "Include in list"
> check boxes.
> I am not aware of a discussion about this on this list. (there is too
> much noise from the sex fans...)
> I get a proper answer from the searches in PIR and Swissprot on our
> server, but for the first entry, the bank ID is shown in capitals, and
> for all the next, in small lettres.

that behaviour is caused by a bug which is already fixed for version 5.1

> When I try a search with "Include from list" on our EMBL databank, I get
> only the first entry, completetly, and the ID of the second entry.
> Thereafter, all is blank. Like this (copy/pasted)
> 
>     EMBL:ASPPRCA
> 
> ID   ASPPRCA    standard; DNA; PRO; 1952 BP.
> DE   Anabaena sp.PCC7120 prcA gene
> 
>     embl:EC82K
> 
> The same search without asking for "Include..." is complete.
> 

don't know about that one myself. Most often i go into the view manager
and create a view
rather than checking the fields in the query form - there is another
problem that the
field selection seems to disappear after seeing several chunks. This is
also what changed in 5.1:
whenever you do a field selection in the queyr form a view is defined
from that which stays 
for the rest of the session

regards
thure

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Subject: The problems in SRS
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 16:10:06 -0400
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Hello,

We meet the following problems in SRS. When we search some of the
databanks using several fields to display the query results, for
example, searching OWL, one of the results like this (using 
ID, DESCRIPTION, DATE):

OWL			ID	Description		Date
OWL:FAAA_HUMAN	FAAA_HUMAN     FUMARYLACETOACETASE
                               EC
                               A
                               HREF
                               wgetz
                               id
                               auO117aVgL
                               e
                               enzyme
                               3
                               7
                               1
                               2
                               FUMARYLACETOACETATE
                               HYDROLASE
                               BETA
                               DIKETONASE
                               FAA
                               HOMO
                               SAPIENS
                               HUMAN


The EC number should be hyperlinked instead. 

Some of other sites Oxford, Hinxton... behave the same. The SRS 5.05
version is running.

Any suggestions on this?

Ray Wang

Software Engineer
Adanced Information Technology
SmithKline Beecham R&D

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I am very happy to receive any help about the CONTIG retrieving message.

ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED.

Pleased send email to jinbguo@hrbmu.hrbmu.edu.cn

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Oct 12 23:00:00 1997
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From: Jeroen Bos <jbos@chem.vu.nl>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Search for a transcription activator.
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:52:09 +0200
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Hello,

I have a sequence that is a possible binding domain for a
transcriptional activator. I wanna know if this domain already has been
identified by someone. Could anyone tell me if it is possible to do this
by the SRS and if it is possible how I should do this.

Jeroen Bos

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Oct 14 23:00:00 1997
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From: mkikuchi@genes.nig.ac.jp (Masayuki Kikuchi)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: srsbuild: can not merge ID field of embl
Date: 14 Oct 1997 10:11:17 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Genetics, Japan.
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I'm running SRS5.05 and would like to index embl.

When I merge index partitions of "ID" to a single index, SRSBUILD won't
index and the message:

  % srsbuild embl -f "id" -m
  "/SRS/srs5.05/etc/message.dat" could not be opened
  %
  % ls /SRS/srs5.05/etc/message.dat
  /SRS/srs5.05/etc/message.dat
  %

I can merge index partitions of other field.

Would anyone have any hint?

Thank you!

--
Masayuki Kikuchi (mkikuchi@genes.nig.ac.jp)

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Thu Oct 16 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!mserv1.dl.ac.uk!usenet
From: Martin Hilbers <mph@dl.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: guiType:multi
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:07:45 +0100
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Hi Guys,

Does anybody know how to use the  "guiType:multi" in srs applications ?
It apparently should allow you to select multiple items from
an options list, but sofar I have not been able to transfer
the multple selected items to the command line.

In appl.i, there is an example of this 

    $AppOpt:[consistency group:@OTHER_OPTS type:bool guiType:multi
      prompt:'' values:{
  	$OptVal:[consistency valInt:1 prompt:consistency]
  	$OptVal:[span2 prompt:span2]
  	$OptVal:[span1 prompt:span1]
  	$OptVal:[span prompt:span]
      }
    ]


which is then put on the command line for blast with:

      |($Alt:[$opt.span1 t:' -span1'])\
      |($Alt:[$opt.span2 t:' -span2'])\
      |($Alt:[$opt.span t:' -span'])\
      |($Alt:[$opt.consistency t:' -consistency'])\


This allows you to select any of these options - but in practice,
if you select any of these options, the -consistency parameter is
put on the command line...


Cheers,

Martin

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From: server srswww <srswww@eos.bio.unipd.it>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: troubles in indexing EMBL 51 (ORIG FORMAT)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:39:46 +0200
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We are trying to index EMBL 51 in SRS5

I selected (commenting and outcommenting lines) ORIG FORMAT in embl.i
and
embl.is. I inserted est8, est9, est10 and est11 in embl.is

but we had troubles:

est8.dat:6565666: error: syntax error, production
`authors' :

|vage A.R., Fields C. and Venter J.C. |

.....................................^

  no match with |^[,;]|

(a lot of time!)

and later we had:

error: file could not be opened,
"/export/home/srswww/srs/index/embl_id_8.inx"

for all indexes


Can someone help us? Where's the problem?

Thank you very much for your collaboration


Nicola Cannata
CRIBI, University of Padova, Italy


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<TT>We are trying to index EMBL 51 in SRS5</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>I selected (commenting and outcommenting lines) ORIG FORMAT in embl.i
and</TT>
<BR><TT>embl.is. I inserted est8, est9, est10 and est11 in embl.is</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>but we had troubles:</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>est8.dat:6565666: error: syntax error, production</TT>
<BR><TT>`authors' :</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>|vage A.R., Fields C. and Venter J.C. |</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>.....................................^</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>&nbsp; no match with |^[,;]|</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>(a lot of time!)</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>and later we had:</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>error: file could not be opened,</TT>
<BR><TT>"/export/home/srswww/srs/index/embl_id_8.inx"</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>for all indexes</TT>
<BR><TT></TT>&nbsp;<TT></TT>

<P><TT>Can someone help us? Where's the problem?</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>Thank you very much for your collaboration</TT>
<BR><TT></TT>&nbsp;<TT></TT>

<P><TT>Nicola Cannata</TT>
<BR><TT>CRIBI, University of Padova, Italy</TT>
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sat Oct 18 23:00:00 1997
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From: dessen@lovelace.infobiogen.fr (Philippe Dessen)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: SRS 5 getz
Date: 19 Oct 1997 13:28:24 GMT
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In the SRS4 version there is an option to read  a file  containing
a listt of queries

  -qf <string>        [""] name of file containing a list of queries

We have not found the similar option in the SRS5 version ??
Is it nevertheless a similar option ?
That is   faster to use it than  to have a loop script.

Philippe Dessen


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From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
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	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Oct 19 23:00:00 1997
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From: Thure Etzold <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: guiType:multi
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:40:38 +0100
Organization: EMBL-EBI
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To: Martin Hilbers <mph@dl.ac.uk>
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Martin Hilbers wrote:
> 
> ...
> This allows you to select any of these options - but in practice,
> if you select any of these options, the -consistency parameter is
> put on the command line...

yes you are right - this is a 'glitch' that escaped me completely -
there is 
fortunately a way out - will fix it

thure

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Oct 19 23:00:00 1997
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From: Thure Etzold <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: SRS 5 getz
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:30:01 +0100
Organization: EMBL-EBI
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To: Philippe Dessen <dessen@lovelace.infobiogen.fr>
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Philippe Dessen wrote:
> 
> In the SRS4 version there is an option to read  a file  containing
> a listt of queries
> 
>   -qf <string>        [""] name of file containing a list of queries

i was not awaer that anybody was using that option - am working 
on getz at the moment and resinstantiate old options and add new ones

the changes to getz are

-d and -t will be back in 5.1
-qf will be easy to put back as well
-ll (list length) and -lb (list begin) to get only chunks back
  from getz (this is analogous to wgetz options)
-i (indextokens) lets you display the tokens generated for parsing - 
  it is analogous to srsbuild -d, the advantage here is that ne
  can do any getz query and then have the index tokens displayed. This
  should be useful for improving parsers that go wrong for particular
  entries only

...now is the time for asking for more options!

regards
Thure

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Oct 19 23:00:00 1997
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From: Ewoud Smit <esmit@sci.kun.nl>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: troubles in indexing EMBL 51 (ORIG FORMAT)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:21:31 +0200
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server srswww wrote:

>  We are trying to index EMBL 51 in SRS5
>
> I selected (commenting and outcommenting lines) ORIG FORMAT in embl.i
> and
> embl.is. I inserted est8, est9, est10 and est11 in embl.is
>
> but we had troubles:
>
> est8.dat:6565666: error: syntax error, production
> `authors' :
>
> |vage A.R., Fields C. and Venter J.C. |
>
> .....................................^
>

That "and" is not supported in the embl syntax author fields should end
with ';'and authors should be separated by ',' so it looks like your
est8.dat file has the
wrong syntax.

>   no match with |^[,;]|
>
> (a lot of time!)
>
> and later we had:
>
> error: file could not be opened,
> "/export/home/srswww/srs/index/embl_id_8.inx"
>

This is probably a propagated error caused by the one above, should not
be herewhen above problem is solved, if it remains it's most likely due
to unix file modes
being set to read-only.

> for all indexes
>
>
> Can someone help us? Where's the problem?
>
> Thank you very much for your collaboration
>
>
> Nicola Cannata
> CRIBI, University of Padova, Italy
>

 Regards, Ewoud Smit

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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<TT>We are trying to index EMBL 51 in SRS5</TT>

<P><TT>I selected (commenting and outcommenting lines) ORIG FORMAT in embl.i
and</TT>
<BR><TT>embl.is. I inserted est8, est9, est10 and est11 in embl.is</TT>

<P><TT>but we had troubles:</TT>

<P><TT>est8.dat:6565666: error: syntax error, production</TT>
<BR><TT>`authors' :</TT>

<P><TT>|vage A.R., Fields C. and Venter J.C. |</TT>

<P><TT>.....................................^</TT>
<BR>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
That "and" is not supported in the embl syntax author fields should end
with ';'and authors should be separated by ',' so it looks like your est8.dat
file has the
<BR>wrong syntax.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>

<P><TT>&nbsp; no match with |^[,;]|</TT>

<P><TT>(a lot of time!)</TT>

<P><TT>and later we had:</TT>

<P><TT>error: file could not be opened,</TT>
<BR><TT>"/export/home/srswww/srs/index/embl_id_8.inx"</TT>
<BR>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
This is probably a propagated error caused by the one above, should not
be herewhen above problem is solved, if it remains it's most likely due
to unix file modes
<BR>being set to read-only.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>

<P><TT>for all indexes</TT>
<BR>&nbsp;

<P><TT>Can someone help us? Where's the problem?</TT>

<P><TT>Thank you very much for your collaboration</TT>
<BR>&nbsp;

<P><TT>Nicola Cannata</TT>
<BR><TT>CRIBI, University of Padova, Italy</TT>
<BR>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp;Regards, Ewoud Smit
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Oct 19 23:00:00 1997
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From: Thure Etzold <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: troubles in indexing EMBL 51 (ORIG FORMAT)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:43:41 +0100
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server srswww wrote:
> and later we had:
> 
> error: file could not be opened,
> "/export/home/srswww/srs/index/embl_id_8.inx"
> 
> for all indexes

the syntax warnings are normal since the author lines in EMBL contain
many errors.
the file open error is serious. It comes most likely from a limitation
of the max number of
open files per process. to get rid of that do

% unlimit

before the indexing


regards
thure

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Hello Thure

> ...now is the time for asking for more options!

okey, that's nice!

1. Can we have alias names to databases (single database or group
   of databases). 
   This would solve some problem when we suddenly change database name
   (emnew --> emblnew for example) and the external links from other
   sources to this database works. 

2. somebody should continue asking from here... 

Ramu





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payments directly towards their account. See their
account balances....and MUCH MUCH MORE!
Because I have WON it directly from Data Pro I am entitled to
sell this software NO STRINGS ATTACHED for what ever I want.
If we had not already had an on line system we would be using it right now.
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 copy for $5M Data Pro sells it right now for
$20,000.00 go and see! I can sell 1 copy ONLY for
just $5,000.00 First check out http://www.dpro.com
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 22 23:00:00 1997
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From: Thure Etzold <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: SRS 5 getz
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:47:14 +0100
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Ramu Chenna wrote:
> 1. Can we have alias names to databases (single database or group
>    of databases).
>    This would solve some problem when we suddenly change database name
>    (emnew --> emblnew for example) and the external links from other
>    sources to this database works.

have been thinking about this for some time. The problem is that a more
general
approach is needed since often not only the databank name may vary but
also 
the identifier for the entry which can be either an accession number or 
entry name - thinking of the information you find in blast files. 
Would like to have a system where all of the following are understood:

sw|P00123
sw:P00123
swissprot:P00123
SWISS|ACHA_HUMAN

to make it even more complicated, we have here at ebi 
'virtual databanks' like 'swall' which i think contains: 
swissprot, sptrembl, swissnew and sptremblnew 

... so definetely for after 5.1 ...any further comments on that?


regards
thure

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Subject: Re: 20M of internet linked accounting software for $5M!
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"Stephen" <steph@computer-supplies.com> wrote:
count balances....and MUCH MUCH MORE!
>
>
>Data Pro sells it right now for
>$20,000.00 go and see! I can sell 1 copy ONLY for

do not you live with  neighbours ?  if you can sell only 1 copy 
you can sell it to them, why to put it on internet ?  Foolish!

ramu


From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 22 23:00:00 1997
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From: joew@base4.com (Joe Wang)
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Subject: Link problem for getz (srs5.05)
Date: 23 Oct 1997 13:34:02 -0700
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According to the SRS menu, if I want to get all human
CDSs from GenBank, I should do:
getz '[genbank-org:homo] \> [genbank-ftk:cds]' -f seq

Instead of the CDSs, I get the entire sequence tries.

When I do:
getz '[genbank-ftk:cds] \< [genbank-org:homo] ' -f seq

I get all the CDSs from GenBank (not only the human ones).

If I don't use the escape "\", I get nothing.

It looks like that the linking function ">" or "<" is not working.

Any suggestions?

Joe


From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 22 23:00:00 1997
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From: Martin Hilbers <mph@dl.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: genbank 103 with SRS5
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:16:08 +0100
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Jean-Marc Plaza wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> we have some troubles with genbank 103 about indexing
> FeatureQualifier (ftq) with SRS5.05
> The two first indexing steps are ok:
> srsbuild GENBANK -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
> srsbuild GENBANK -c -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
> 
> but the step of murging index partitions to a single index make
> a core dumped
> srsbuild GENBANK -m -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
> 
> need help
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jean-marc

No solution - just confirmation that we had the same problem at
SEQNET. (genbank in gcg format)

Martin


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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 22 23:00:00 1997
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Hello,
we have some troubles with genbank 103 about indexing
FeatureQualifier (ftq) with SRS5.05
The two first indexing steps are ok:
srsbuild GENBANK -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
srsbuild GENBANK -c -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'


but the step of murging index partitions to a single index make
a core dumped
srsbuild GENBANK -m -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'

need help

Regards,


Jean-marc
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From: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Link problem for getz (srs5.05)
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joew@base4.com (Joe Wang) writes:

> 
> According to the SRS menu, if I want to get all human
> CDSs from GenBank, I should do:
> getz '[genbank-org:homo] \> [genbank-ftk:cds]' -f seq
> 
> Instead of the CDSs, I get the entire sequence tries.
> 
> When I do:
> getz '[genbank-ftk:cds] \< [genbank-org:homo] ' -f seq
> 
> I get all the CDSs from GenBank (not only the human ones).
> 
> If I don't use the escape "\", I get nothing.
> 
> It looks like that the linking function ">" or "<" is not working.
> 
> Any suggestions?

The "\>" is wrong - you should just use ">" or "<".

I suspect your GenBank release does no have "Homo" explicitly in the taxonomy.
Maybe the human entries are indexed only as "homo sapiens". If so, the
[genbank-org:homo] part of the query will not work.

You can quickly check this with:

(srs5) getz -lv  '[genbank-org:homo*]'
(srs4) getz -rep '[genbank-org:homo*]'

Yikes - just tried that here with EMBL 51, and found a really weird one:

% getz -lv  '[embl-org:homo*]'

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Values in "EMBL"
    homo                                                              829492
    homo sapiens                                                      829491

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

report of query "[embl-org:homo*]"

.. and the reason is, two sets of OS and OC lines:

% getz "[embl-org:homo\!homo sapiens]" -e|more
ID   H17BHYD    standard; DNA; HUM; 21764 BP.
XX
AC   M84472;
XX
NI   g806392
XX
DT   25-DEC-1992 (Rel. 34, Created)
DT   13-OCT-1996 (Rel. 49, Last updated, Version 11)
XX
DE   Human 17-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (EDH17B1 and EDH17B2)
DE   genes, complete coding regions and flanks.
XX
KW   17-beta-dehydrogenase; 17-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase;
KW   Alu repeat; estradiol.
XX
OS   Homo
OC   Eukaryotae; mitochondrial eukaryotes; Metazoa; Chordata;
OC   Vertebrata; Eutheria; Primates; Catarrhini; Hominidae.
XX
OS   Homo sapiens (human)
OC   Eukaryotae; mitochondrial eukaryotes; Metazoa; Chordata;
OC   Vertebrata; Eutheria; Primates; Catarrhini; Hominidae; Homo.
XX



From owner-srs@net.bio.net Thu Oct 23 23:00:00 1997
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From: Ray Wang <wangr000@mh.us.sbphrd.com>
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Subject: View Manager
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:30:44 -0400
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Hello,

Find a problem when getting into View Manager page: no table displayed
under the three selection buttons. Doubt about the part in SRSWWW.i
file, but haven't figured out where the really error comes from. Would
anyone give an advice?

Thanks a lot.

Ray

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From: Rodrigo Lopez <rls@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Link problem for getz (srs5.05)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:17:59 +0100
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Peter Rice wrote:

.. and the reason is, two sets of OS and OC lines:

% getz "[embl-org:homo\!homo sapiens]" -e|more
ID   H17BHYD    standard; DNA; HUM; 21764 BP.
XX
AC   M84472;
XX
NI   g806392
XX
DT   25-DEC-1992 (Rel. 34, Created)
DT   13-OCT-1996 (Rel. 49, Last updated, Version 11)
XX
DE   Human 17-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (EDH17B1 and EDH17B2)
DE   genes, complete coding regions and flanks.
XX
KW   17-beta-dehydrogenase; 17-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase;
KW   Alu repeat; estradiol.
XX
OS   Homo
OC   Eukaryotae; mitochondrial eukaryotes; Metazoa; Chordata;
OC   Vertebrata; Eutheria; Primates; Catarrhini; Hominidae.
XX
OS   Homo sapiens (human)
OC   Eukaryotae; mitochondrial eukaryotes; Metazoa; Chordata;
OC   Vertebrata; Eutheria; Primates; Catarrhini; Hominidae; Homo.
XX

But this is clearly only happening on your SRS server. The EBI's
server reports the above entry as the only one with that mistake
for which EBI appologice (its a Genbank entry anyway!). 


R:)

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Thu Oct 23 23:00:00 1997
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Am trying to hook the nr ( and nt) blast databases into my SRS system.
cannot find the correct config file (*.i) although this is one of the
options on the WWW SRS server.

any info appreciated
Maurice

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Oct 26 22:00:00 1997
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From: Martin Hilbers <mph@dl.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: genbank 103 with SRS5
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:16:47 +0000
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Jean-Marc Plaza wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> we have some troubles with genbank 103 about indexing
> FeatureQualifier (ftq) with SRS5.05
> The two first indexing steps are ok:
> srsbuild GENBANK -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
> srsbuild GENBANK -c -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
> 
> but the step of murging index partitions to a single index make
> a core dumped
> srsbuild GENBANK -m -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
> 
> need help
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jean-marc
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Might this be caused by a constant determining the maximum number
of entries associated with a key? The ftq key "dbx_ref" appears
to be related to 2254812 entries. A grep for 2000000 in the 
source code did show a few constants set to that value, but
none seemed to be related to this (quickly judged from there
names/files) - but maybe the SRS-team can tell us more.

Cheers,

Martin


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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Oct 28 22:00:00 1997
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From: dudgeon@britbio.co.uk (Tim Dudgeon)
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Subject: Applications as sequences
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Hi SRS developers,

could you clarify something in SRS5.05 for me. I have some applications
that generate sequences (e.g contig assembbly). However, as applications
they have to be in $library.group @APPLICATION_LIBS, not @SEQUENCE_LIBS.

Is there any way to be able to treat the database generated from the
application as a sequence dastabase, and hence be able to run further
applications on them. I note there is a $library.datatype parameter that
can be set to noseq, dna or protein, but setting this appears to have no
effect (and this parameter is not used in any .i files).

The only solution to me appears to be to call getz once the application
database has been created, to generate all the sequences in the
application database as a seperate file that can then be indexed as a
sequence database, and then link from the application database to the
sequence database to get a the sequences. Not a very elegant solution!

Suggestions welcome.

Tim

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Ok, so I tracked that problem down eventually. Answer is quite simple.
Make sure $libformat.contains is set to @PROTSEQ_DATA or @DNASEQ_DATA as
appropriate. That allows the entries to be recognised as sequences and
allows applications to be run on them.

Well, it should do, but then I came across a further problem. The
application has to be set up to be of $library.type set to user, with
the files being located in the directory corresponding to the current
session id. However SRS appears unable to launch applications from these
types of database as it is unable to find the file containing the
sequences (the file that was indexed). If you switch the directory
containing the files ($libloc.dir) to be a hard coded directory rather
than the current session directory then it works fine, but then multiple
users would trash each others files.

Has anyone encountered something like this?

Suggestions are welcome.

Tim
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 29 22:00:00 1997
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:21:10 +0100
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> > we have some troubles with genbank 103 about indexing
> > FeatureQualifier (ftq) with SRS5.05
> > The two first indexing steps are ok:
> > srsbuild GENBANK -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
> > srsbuild GENBANK -c -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
> >
> > but the step of murging index partitions to a single index make
> > a core dumped
> > srsbuild GENBANK -m -f ' ftq' -xdir 'SRSINX:' -odir 'SRSINX:' -s 'unix'
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Might this be caused by a constant determining the maximum number
> of entries associated with a key? The ftq key "dbx_ref" appears
> to be related to 2254812 entries. A grep for 2000000 in the
> source code did show a few constants set to that value, but
> none seemed to be related to this (quickly judged from there
> names/files) - but maybe the SRS-team can tell us more.
> 

I am having also this problem with other databases and keys (with less
then 2000000 ref). What makes it tricky is that the dump is not
systematic....

I am using srs 5.05 on SGI origin 2000

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 29 22:00:00 1997
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From: Ramu Chenna <chenna@embl-heidelberg.de>
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Subject: FASTA style database in SRS (one solution!)
Date: 30 Oct 1997 16:39:17 GMT
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Hello 'All the impatient' 

Many people asked about using the following fasta (???) format 
database with SRS.

One of the solution is to convert it to swiss format and use it. 
(Many other applications can also use this db, eg., gcg programs)


>/:swissnew|P80385|AAKG_RAT 5'-AMP-ACTIVATED PROTEIN KINASE, GAMMA-1 SUBUNIT (AMPK GAMMA CHAIN).//:trembl|X95578|RNAMPKGAM_1 product=
: "AMP-activated protein kinase gamma";  R.norvegicus mRNA for gamma subunit of AMP-activated protein kinase //:gp|X95578|1185271 AM=
P-activated protein kinase gamma [Rattus norvegicus]
MESVAAESAPAPENEHSQETPESNSSVYTTFMKSHRCYDLIPTSSKLVVFDTSLQVKKAF
FALVTNGVRAAPLWDSKKQSFVGMLTITDFINILHRYYKSALVQIYELEEHKIETWREVY


pickup the conversion program from 

http://www.embl-heidelberg.de/~chenna/funnyFasta2swiss.is

and then 

you can copy the syntax and structure files for this from embl srs server 
to use with SRS.  They are  nrdb.i and nrdb.is (you know how to get them,
don't you?)

if you are converting a nuc database then change 

  $SeqPrint:[format:swiss]   to 

  $SeqPrint:[format:embl]  

in the funnyFasta2swiss.is file.

I wrote funnyFasta2swiss.is  long time back and took time to locate it. 

enjoy and thank me !

Ramu
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Here's another solution. Enjoy.

/staffan

Staffan Bergh
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#    $Log: fastafile.is,v $
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#    Check in of file from test directory
#
#    Revision 1.2  1997/10/13 13:05:57  staffan
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#
#    Revision 1.1  1997/10/06 16:03:11  staffan
#    Initial revision
#
#
#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

$rules={
  entry:    ~ {$In:[file:text] $Out pre{$Skip:0}}
	      ('>' {$Not} ln)*
              ('>' {$entryFip=$Fip} name {$Wrt $entryName=$1} appLn)? ~

  # data fields
  fields:   ~ {$In:entry $Out $Skip:1} 
	       (name  {$Wrt:[id]} / *([^\n]*)/ {$Wrt:[des]}) ~

  sequence: ~ {$In:[file:seq share:text] $Out
		 pre {$s=$SeqNew:$entryName $seqFip=$Fip} 
		  $Wrt:[s:$entryName] $SeqMake:$s}
		(idline ln (/^([^>]+)/ {$SeqApp:[$s s:$Ct]})*) ~

  # indexing
  id:       ~ {$In:[fields c:id] $Out} 
		/.+/ {$Wrt} ~
  des:    ~ {$In:[fields c:des] $Out}
		(/[0-9]+\.[0-9]+/ {$Uniq} | # catch floats before we see a fullstop
		  stopwords |               # skip stopwords
		 /[\.\;] +/ |               # a trailing punct. mark with spaces after is a separator
		 /[^-A-Za-z0-9\_]+/ |       # as is anything that doesn't match a alphanum etc 
		 (/[-A-Za-z0-9\:\_]+/       # everything else is a word
			{ 
			  $split = $Trim:[$Ct skip:":"] # trim off a trailing ':'
			  $Uniq:[s:$split]
			}
		 )
	        )* ~

  # other  
  lead:     ~ '>' ~
  name:     ~ /[-a-zA-Z0-9_\.]+/ ~
  title:    ~ / *[^\n]*/ ~
  idline:   ~ /^>/ name  ~
  appLn:    ~ /[^\n]*\n/ {$App} ~
  ln:       ~ /[^\n]*\n/  ~
  word:     ~ /[-A-Za-z0-9_]+/ ~
  sep:      ~ /[^-A-Za-z0-9_]+/ ~
  seqline:  ~ /^[A-Za-z]+\n/ ~
  lnbreak:  ~ /\n$/ ~
  stopwords: ~ ('in' | 'for' | 'to' | 'by' | 'of') ~
  
}

if:$TestMode {
  $job = $JobNew:[prod:$rules skip:" " fileName:'/net/honken/disk2/databases/genomes/fasta/seq/h_influenzae.seq']
  while:$JobHasInput:$job {
    $JobTokens:[$job name:entry  print:1] 
    $JobTokens:[$job name:sequence print:1]
#    $JobTokens:[$job name:fields  print:1] 
#    $JobTokens:[$job name:'fields|id' print:1]
#    $JobTokens:[$job name:'id' print:1]
#    $JobTokens:[$job name:'des' print:1]
    $JobNext:$job
#    $print:"----------------------------------------------\n"
  }
}

### fastafile.i  ###

#!/bin/env icarus
#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
#    $Id: fastafile.i,v 1.1 1997/10/13 15:58:52 staffan Exp $
#    $Log: fastafile.i,v $
#    Revision 1.1  1997/10/13 15:58:52  staffan
#    Initial revision
#
#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

# You need to select one of these FORMATs in your .i file

FASTASEQS_FORMAT:$libformat:[syntax:@FASTADB_SYNTAX contains:@DNASEQ_DATA
  tableFormat:left 
  fileType:{@FASTADB_FILE @FASTADB_SEQ}
  fields:{
    $field:[@DF_ID code:id index:id indexToken:id]
    $field:[@DF_Description code:des index:str indexToken:des
	tableToken:des]
    FASTASeq:$field:[@DF_DNASequence token:sequence format:fasta]
  }
]

FASTAPEPS_FORMAT:$libformat:[syntax:@FASTADB_SYNTAX contains:@PROTSEQ_DATA
  tableFormat:left 
  fileType:{@FASTADB_FILE @FASTADB_SEQ}
  fields:{
    $field:[@DF_ID code:id index:id indexToken:id]
    $field:[@DF_Description code:des index:str indexToken:des
	tableToken:des]
    FASTAPep:$field:[@DF_ProtSequence token:sequence format:fasta]
  }
]

FASTADB_SYNTAX:$syntax:[file:"SRSDB:fastafile.is" ignore:" \t"]

FASTADB_FILE:$filetype:[text maxline:10000]
FASTADB_SEQ:$filetype:[seq shareWith:@FASTADB_FILE fieldTokens:sequence 
  fipVar:seqFip]

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Thu Oct 30 22:00:00 1997
From: chenna@embl-heidelberg.de
Subject: :      FASTA style database in SRS (one solution!)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:52:28 -0600
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Hello 'All the impatient'

(Looks like posting from embl does not reach propery, again
posting from dejanews!)

Many people asked about using the following fasta (???) format
database with SRS.


One of the solution is to convert it to swiss format and use it.
(Many other applications can also use this db, eg., gcg programs)


funnyFasta entries looks like this!

>/:swissnew|P80385|AAKG_RAT 5'-AMP-ACTIVATED PROTEIN KINASE, GAMMA-1 SUBUNIT

(AMPK GAMMA CHAIN).//:trembl|X95578|RNAMPKGAM_1 product : "AMP-activated
protein kinase gamma";	R.norvegicus mRNA for gamma subunit of
AMP-activated protein kinase //:gp|X95578|1185271 AM P-activated protein
kinase gamma [Rattus norvegicus]
MESVAAESAPAPENEHSQETPESNSSVYTTFMKSHRCYDLIPTSSKLVVFDTSLQVKKAF
FALVTNGVRAAPLWDSKKQSFVGMLTITDFINILHRYYKSALVQIYELEEHKIETWREVY




pickup the conversion program from


http://www.embl-heidelberg.de/~chenna/funnyFasta2swiss.is


and then


you can copy the syntax and structure files for this from embl srs server
to use with SRS.  They are  nrdb.i and nrdb.is (you know how to get them,
don't you?)


if you are converting a nuc database then change


  $SeqPrint:[format:swiss]   to


  $SeqPrint:[format:embl]


in the funnyFasta2swiss.is file.


I wrote funnyFasta2swiss.is  long time back and took time to locate it.


enjoy !


Ramu
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