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From: "Thure Etzold" <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: A nasty bug in the SRS link indexing
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> Dear SRS developers and fellow SRS server managers,
>
>While trying to implement a direct link between PIR and EMBL/GENBANK I
>ran into trouble. After some searching I found that the cause was a bug
>in the SRS software itself. It seems that when there is e.g. an Icarus
>line :
>$link:[@SWISSPROT_DB to:@?EMBL_DB token:'link|EMBL' toField:@DF_Accession]
>not just tokens with code EMBL are put in the index, but all tokens.
>


this problem has been reported before and i had problems reproducing it. it
seems that it does occur rather infrequently and not as a rule.



>To convince yourself of this, try the following :
>search in SWISSPROT the entry with ID HA12_MOUSE
>then make the link to EMBL
>you will see that besides the two correct EMBL entries you also find
>A02201 which is not related to the sequence SWISSPROT:HA12_MOUSE but
>happens to have the same accession number as the corresponding PIR
>entry.
>
>SRS is great, but keeping it alive costs a lot of sweat and tears...

very sorry about that but your error report help a lot!

regards
thure




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Martin Hilbers wrote in message <34FC3A4C.8E5FDBF4@dl.ac.uk>...

>It may have something to do with the "-s unix" command line option
>used when you do a srsbuild via srscheck. Have a look at this:


BINGO! thanks a million, yes that is the problem. There is a straightforward
solution but which is a bit complicated to insert for
a non-srs programmer. I suggest the following solution:

edit the file SRSICA/srscheck.i

and replace all "-s '%s'" with "" ...empty string
the -s unix is default anyway. The only advantage is that the examples
with -s demo and srscheck don't work anymore ...but i guess, you are already
beyond that!

regards
thure




From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Mar 02 22:00:00 1998
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Thure Etzold wrote:
> 
> > Dear SRS developers and fellow SRS server managers,
> >
> >While trying to implement a direct link between PIR and EMBL/GENBANK I
> >ran into trouble. After some searching I found that the cause was a bug
> >in the SRS software itself. It seems that when there is e.g. an Icarus
> >line :
> >$link:[@SWISSPROT_DB to:@?EMBL_DB token:'link|EMBL' toField:@DF_Accession]
> >not just tokens with code EMBL are put in the index, but all tokens.
> >
> 
> this problem has been reported before and i had problems reproducing it. it
> seems that it does occur rather infrequently and not as a rule.
> 
> >To convince yourself of this, try the following :
> >search in SWISSPROT the entry with ID HA12_MOUSE
> >then make the link to EMBL
> >you will see that besides the two correct EMBL entries you also find
> >A02201 which is not related to the sequence SWISSPROT:HA12_MOUSE but
> >happens to have the same accession number as the corresponding PIR
> >entry.
> >
> >SRS is great, but keeping it alive costs a lot of sweat and tears...
> 
> very sorry about that but your error report help a lot!
> 
> regards
> thure

It may have something to do with the "-s unix" command line option
used when you do a srsbuild via srscheck. Have a look at this:

# srsbuild swissprot -l -nn
...reading links to "GENBANK"
...reading links to "EMBL"
...reading links to "PIR"
...reading links to "PDB"
...reading links to "OMIM"
...processing /usr/local/gcg/data/gcgswissprot/swissprot.ref
...processing /usr/local/gcg/data/gcgswissprot/swissprot.seq
...wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "GENBANK"
         valid references: 109413, invalid references: 158, 
         total number of links: 112514

...wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "EMBL"
         valid references: 109396, invalid references: 175, 
         total number of links: 112116

...wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "PIR"
         valid references: 47054, invalid references: 75, 
         total number of links: 39124

...wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "PDB"
         valid references: 5753, invalid references: 51, 
         total number of links: 5753

...wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "OMIM"
         valid references: 3760, invalid references: 0, 
         total number of links: 3760

...program "srsbuild" completed successfully.

looks good. Test it:
# getz '[swissprot-id:HA12_MOUSE]>embl'
EMBL:MM190
EMBL:MMU47326

now with "-s unix":
# srsbuild swissprot -l -nn -s unix
...reading links to "GENBANK"
...reading links to "EMBL"
...reading links to "PIR"
...reading links to "PDB"
...reading links to "REBASE"
...reading links to "OMIM"
...processing /usr/local/gcg/data/gcgswissprot/swissprot.ref
...processing /usr/local/gcg/data/gcgswissprot/swissprot.seq

..wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "GENBANK"
         valid references: 125252, invalid references: 123397, 
         total number of links: 128143

...wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "EMBL"
         valid references: 125155, invalid references: 123494, 
         total number of links: 127675

...wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "PIR"
         valid references: 49253, invalid references: 199396, 
         total number of links: 41352

...wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "PDB"
         valid references: 5753, invalid references: 242896, 
         total number of links: 5753

...wrote link from "SWISSPROT" to "OMIM"
         valid references: 3766, invalid references: 244883, 
         total number of links: 3766

...program "srsbuild" completed successfully.

Now the system tries to match all 250.000 links to all databases,
and a test:
# getz '[swissprot-id:HA12_MOUSE]>embl'
EMBL:A02201
EMBL:MM190
EMBL:MMU47326

pulls out A02201 - which should be a link to PIR

Cheers,
Martin

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Mar 03 22:00:00 1998
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From: Luca TOLDO <luca.toldo@popserver.bci.merck.de>
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Dear Colleagues,
I am seriously concerned with stability and performance of SRS. I would
very much appreciate to learn the final statement on the efforts planned
and timeschedules for parallelization of srsupdate.
regards


From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Mar 03 22:00:00 1998
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From: "Thure Etzold" <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
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Luca TOLDO wrote in message <34FD538C.6C58D92E@popserver.bci.merck.de>...
>Dear Colleagues,
>I am seriously concerned with stability and performance of SRS. I would
>very much appreciate to learn the final statement on the efforts planned
>and timeschedules for parallelization of srsupdate.
>regards


the main obstacle to this and other improvements such as offline indexing
was the complexity of the srscheck program. It grew over the last years into
a bit of a monster that made extensions impossible. We rewrote it
in the last days and it feels much lighter now. We plan for 5.2 to have
a working solution for the offline indexing and hopefully the
parallelization of the EMBL indexing. The new srscheck will produce the
old srsupdate and/or a makefile which allows the whole updating process
to be parallelized.

regards
thure



From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Mar 08 22:00:00 1998
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From: Ramu Chenna <chenna>
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Hi All,


(I)  RFactor indice in pdbfinder is empty for the few sites I checked!

Change 

   $field:[@DF_R_FACTOR code:rFactor index:real
      indexToken:'numX|rFactor']

to 

   $field:[@DF_R_FACTOR code:rFactor index:real
      indexToken:'realX|rFactor']

and reindex.  

Still when you search for Rfactor <= 20.0 (or 1.10 etc.,)
it gives segmentation fault!  If YOU FIX IT please let us know!



(II)  Index of twm is empty!

 TotWaterMols         twm    num        0      0       0        0    3/7/98  0 1


Change twatermods to twatermols in pdbfinder.is



Ramu

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Mar 08 22:00:00 1998
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Ramu Chenna <chenna> writes:

> Still when you search for Rfactor <= 20.0 (or 1.10 etc.,)
> it gives segmentation fault!  If YOU FIX IT please let us know!

Worked for me (after your fix) on both Irix and Digital Unix.
We have a PDBFINDER release from Jan 28th.

The command I used was:

	getz '[pdbfinder-rfa#:1.10]' -f rfa -f id 

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Mar 08 22:00:00 1998
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From: Ray Wang <ray@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>
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Ray Wang wrote:
> 
> Are there some people using Internet Explorer to browse SRS? Recently I
> used SRS in IE, neither can I get as many entries as I get from SRS in
> Netscape nor the query results can be properly displayed.
> 
> Wondering how to solve the problem.
> 
> Ray

Probably the problem is due to the misconfiguration of IE. -Ray

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>>>>> "T" == Thure Etzold <etzold@ebi.ac.uk> writes:

    T> Ray Wang wrote in message <35045950.A98@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>...
    >> Ray Wang wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Are there some people using Internet Explorer to browse SRS?
    >>> Recently I used SRS in IE, neither can I get as many entries as I
    >>> get from SRS in Netscape nor the query results can be properly
    >>> displayed.
    >>>
    >>
    >> Probably the problem is due to the misconfiguration of IE. -Ray

    T> we have tested SRS5 with both IE4 and netscape and it worked. I
    T> can't say anything about IE3 but would expect a problems.

    T> thure

my Solaris IE4.0P works fine (I forced myself to say that). IE3 isn't
available for unix.


Johnny

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Ray Wang wrote in message <35045950.A98@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>...
>Ray Wang wrote:
>>
>> Are there some people using Internet Explorer to browse SRS? Recently I
>> used SRS in IE, neither can I get as many entries as I get from SRS in
>> Netscape nor the query results can be properly displayed.
>>
>
>Probably the problem is due to the misconfiguration of IE. -Ray

we have tested SRS5 with both IE4 and netscape and it worked. I can't say
anything about IE3 but would expect a problems.

thure



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Molecular Biological Server in Russia, Novosibirsk

Data bases (srs, Java Viewers), programs and system in on-line

URL: http://wwwmgs.bionet.nsc.ru

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Is there anyone who can help me, to get another 30 days to use
webexpress. I have use my 30 days, and  now  when I start
webexpress, It  is  checking out the day I  first started the program
where is the file which hide the start date, so I can delete It.
Help me? Thanks.
birlie@yahoo.com




From owner-srs@net.bio.net Thu Mar 12 22:00:00 1998
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Hi all,

I can't figure out how to turn off HTML markup in wgetz. It's simple to
specify in getz, but I can't find the option for wgetz. I need to
configure a mime type, but get the data without any html markup. Can
anyone help?

Cheers
Tim

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I did a lookup of all the sites this slimeball spammed after getting another
message in my PRIVATE mailbox today.  After looking at their website, I had an
idea that may finally get to them.

They have a "public relations" page where you can get stock information by
sending them mailing information in a form.  I figure if enough people gave
them fake addresses and bombarded them with this, we may get somewhere on
this.  In fact, I put together a list of snailmail addresses that could be
used,  from other spam.

I couldn't get the main page to send, so I saved it as an htm file and opened
it later.  Had no problem.  Here it is:

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>JT's Restaurant - Public Relations</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY background="chalk.jpg">
<H1><CENTER><IMG align=ABSMIDDLE src="jts1small2.gif"><I>JT's
Restaurants, Inc. </I></CENTER></H1>
<HR>
<H1><CENTER>Public Relations </CENTER></H1>
<H3><CENTER>For the latest information, contact our Public Relations
Department at<BR>
1-888-295-6365<BR>
or<BR>
Fill out the form below to have an investor packet sent to you.</CENTER>
</H3>
<HR>
<FORM ACTION="http://www.cyber-stock.net/cgi-cyber-stock/mailer.pl"
METHOD="POST"><P>
<INPUT NAME="redirect" VALUE="http://www.jtsr-stock.com/thankyou.html"
type="hidden" >
<INPUT NAME="subject" VALUE="Request For JTSR Info" type="hidden" >
<TABLE>
<TR><TD WIDTH=159><B>Name :</TD><TD WIDTH=540>
<INPUT NAME="Name" VALUE="" MAXLENGTH="35" SIZE=35>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=159><B>Address :</TD><TD WIDTH=540>
<TEXTAREA NAME="Address" ROWS=2 COLS=35>
</TEXTAREA></TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=159><B>City:</TD><TD WIDTH=540><INPUT NAME="City" VALUE=""
MAXLENGTH="35" SIZE=35>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=159><B>State: </TD><TD WIDTH=269>
<INPUT NAME="State" VALUE="" MAXLENGTH="2" SIZE=2><B> Zip Code : <INPUT
NAME="Zip
Code" VALUE="" MAXLENGTH="10" SIZE=10>
</TD><TD WIDTH=269></TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=159><B>Home Phone :</TD><TD WIDTH=540>
<INPUT NAME="Home Phone" VALUE="" MAXLENGTH="18" SIZE=18>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=159><B>Work Phone :</TD><TD WIDTH=540>
<INPUT NAME="Work Phone" VALUE="" MAXLENGTH="18" SIZE=18>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=159><B>Best Time to Call :</TD><TD WIDTH=540>
<INPUT NAME="Best Time To Call" VALUE="" MAXLENGTH="18" SIZE=18>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=159><B>E-Mail :</TD><TD WIDTH=540><INPUT NAME="email" VALUE=""
MAXLENGTH="35" SIZE=35>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=159><B>Comments :</TD><TD WIDTH=540>
<TEXTAREA NAME="Comments" ROWS=5 COLS=50>
</TEXTAREA></TD></TR>
</TABLE>
<P>
<CENTER></CENTER>
<P>
<CENTER> <INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT VALUE="Submit"><INPUT TYPE=RESET
VALUE="Reset"></CENTER>
</FORM>
<HR>
<P>
<CENTER>&copy; 1997 - JT's Restaurants, Inc. - All rights reserved.
</CENTER>
</BODY>
</HTML>

And of course, some spammer addresses to use:

JS Enterprises
P.O. Box 278
Clovis, CA 93613
USA
P.O. Box 276 Bellmawr, NJ 0809
701 South Capital of Texas Highway
Suite C-1244
Austin, Texas 78746
USA
TSF Marketing
P.O. Box 4914
Ontario, CA 91761
^^^Travel^^Guide$^^^
16787 Beach Blvd Suite#225
Huntington Beach, Ca.  92647
Precious Times Publications
18551 Chase Street
Northridge, California 91324
B&M Marketing International, 172 Boston
Street, Dept. S1, Coventry, RI 02816
NET-2000
2887 North Green Valley Parkway
Suite #809
Henderson, NV 89014
4676 Commercial St. SE Suite 201
Salem, Oregon 97302
2321 E. 52nd. Box #48
Indianapolis, IN   46205-1469
P.O. Box 72
Peewee Valley, KY   40056-0072
P.O. Box  787
Pullman,  WA    99163
46088-B Larson Beach Road
Loon Lake,  WA     99148
PO BOX 606
Hilton, NY  14468-0606
P.O. Box 335
Midland Park, NJ 07432
Michael Waddell
2245 Peach Ave. #8
Clovis, CA 93612
14341 Inglewood Ave., #183
Hawthorne, CA 90250
1525 Aviation Blvd., Suite 360
Redondo Beach, CA 90278

Just use some fake name along with the address.

If anyone finds info on these dirtbags, pass it along to
r_m_apson@nospam.bigfoot.com


Michael

Annoy a Spammer: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/theantispammer/spam.html

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Mar 15 22:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!158.43.192.17!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!sun4nl!news.Amsterdam.NL.net!sci.kun.nl!not-for-mail
From: Jack Leunissen <jackl@caos.kun.nl>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: Web Browser and SRS
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:02:44 +0100
Organization: CAOS/CAMM Center
Lines: 30
Message-ID: <350D3F13.AB266166@caos.kun.nl>
References: <34FF0275.5247@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> <35045950.A98@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> <6e33l8$aa6$1@niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk>
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Thure Etzold wrote:

> Ray Wang wrote in message <35045950.A98@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>...
> >Ray Wang wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there some people using Internet Explorer to browse SRS? Recently I
> >> used SRS in IE, neither can I get as many entries as I get from SRS in
> >> Netscape nor the query results can be properly displayed.
> >>
> >
> >Probably the problem is due to the misconfiguration of IE. -Ray
>
> we have tested SRS5 with both IE4 and netscape and it worked. I can't say
> anything about IE3 but would expect a problems.
>
>

IE4 is fine. IE3 is problematic, since it always preselects items in a
selector. This meansthat you always have some feature selected, AND search
for it, even when you don't
intend to do so. And you cannot switch it off...

Jack

   Jack A.M. Leunissen       | Email: jackl@caos.kun.nl
   CAOS/CAMM Center          | Tel. : +31 24 365 22 48
   University of Nijmegen    | Fax  : +31 24 365 29 77
   Nijmegen, The Netherlands | Www  : http://www.caos.kun.nl



From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Mar 18 22:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 19 Mar 1998 02:00:07 -0800
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
------------------------------------------------------------------
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subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
--------------------------------------------------------------------
computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
-------------------------------------------------

To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.


From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Mar 18 22:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.embl-heidelberg.de!usenet
From: Ramu Chenna <chenna>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Add another html link to swissprot
Date: 19 Mar 1998 14:37:00 GMT
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Hi everybody

There are few swissprot entries ( BST1_HUMAN for quick check)
which have www links in comment line. 

Add the following icarus lines to swissprot.is do make them clickable!

  h_cc:       ~ {$In:[fields c:cc t:html]} 
		(tag 
		  ('WWW="' href {$Rep:"<A HREF=$Ct>$Ct</A>"} | ln ))* ~

  href:      ~ /[^"]+/ ~


# Ramu


-- 
_______________________________________________________________
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Email: chenna@embl-heidelberg.de
   Url: http://www.embl-heidelberg.de/~chenna/
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______


From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sat Mar 21 22:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!agate!logbridge.uoregon.edu!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!elwell.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail
From: Andrew Elwell <A.Elwell@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Compiling srs5.1.0 under redhat linux 5.0
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 01:34:04 +0000
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having set up SRS at work under slackware and irix, I decided to try on
ly home linux box:
	

during "./srsinstall all" I had lots of  
"warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast"

complaints until:
gcc  -I/usr/local/srs/bin/linux  -o /usr/local/srs/bin/linux/nodd
/usr/local/srs
/bin/linux/nodd.o /usr/local/srs/bin/linux/local.o
/usr/local/srs/bin/linux/libs
rs.a -lm
/usr/local/srs/bin/linux/libsrs.a(icadebug.o): In function
`DbgIopStatement':
icadebug.o(.text+0xaa): undefined reference to `TermNewLineEditor'
icadebug.o(.text+0x123): undefined reference to `TermLineEdit'
make: *** [/usr/local/srs/bin/linux/nodd] Error 1
srsmake: Stopping due to Error 2
srsinstall: Stopping due to Error 1

I assume (in my ignorance) that this might be due to glibc2 ?

has anyone managed to get this to work (and could they give me a RPM
:-)?

Thanks
Andrew

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From: Weare@EuropeMail.com (Johnathon Weare)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: Compiling srs5.1.0 under redhat linux 5.0
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>>>>> "A" == Andrew Elwell <A.Elwell@udcf.gla.ac.uk> writes:

    A> having set up SRS at work under slackware and irix, I decided to try
    A> on ly home linux box:
	

    A> during "./srsinstall all" I had lots of "warning: initialization
    A> makes integer from pointer without a cast"

    A> complaints until: gcc -I/usr/local/srs/bin/linux -o
    A> /usr/local/srs/bin/linux/nodd /usr/local/srs /bin/linux/nodd.o
    A> /usr/local/srs/bin/linux/local.o /usr/local/srs/bin/linux/libs rs.a
    A> -lm /usr/local/srs/bin/linux/libsrs.a(icadebug.o): In function
    A> `DbgIopStatement': icadebug.o(.text+0xaa): undefined reference to
    A> `TermNewLineEditor' icadebug.o(.text+0x123): undefined reference to
    A> `TermLineEdit' make: *** [/usr/local/srs/bin/linux/nodd] Error 1
    A> srsmake: Stopping due to Error 2 srsinstall: Stopping due to Error 1

    A> I assume (in my ignorance) that this might be due to glibc2 ?

    A> has anyone managed to get this to work (and could they give me a RPM
    A> :-)?

    A> Thanks Andrew

I'd guess at glibc too. If you disable the linux debugger code (for line
editing) you're very likely to get a fully working SRS. After that - from
what I've heard - you might like to checkout relevant fixes for your Redhat
5.0!

Johnathon

-- 
Johnathon Weare -- EMBL -- Weare@EuropeMail.com --- http://www.gpcr.org/johnny/

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Mar 24 22:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!agate!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!singer.cent.gla.ac.uk!usenet
From: Andrew Elwell <A.Elwell@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Compressed databases
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:19:24 +0000
Organization: Molecular Enzymology Group
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I see from the srs.relnotes that compressed databases can be used, how
is this done? 

eg, I have /local/databases/swissprot/seq.dat.Z

which .i file do I change? the srsgen.1 or the individual swissprot.i?

Is anyone actively working on the documentation? and would they like a
hand as it's eeerm, difficult at the moment....

Ta 

Andrew

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Mar 24 22:00:00 1998
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From: Andrew Elwell <A.Elwell@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Compressed Databases
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:13:42 +0000
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probably a FAQ, but:
	the srs.relnotes says that compressed databases can be used, How?

I would like to keep the data (eg, swissprot: seq.dat) as seq.dat.Z on
disk and run it through zcat to build the index. is this "the right way"
to do it? if not, then how? 

i'm still trying to wade through the manuals - is there anyone working
on improving readability (and do they want a hand?)
	

Ta

Andrew (who's still struggling to compile on redhat...)

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Mar 24 22:00:00 1998
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From: "Thure Etzold" <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: Compressed databases
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:50:00 -0000
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Andrew Elwell wrote in message <3517EB1C.BB6A03BE@udcf.gla.ac.uk>...
>I see from the srs.relnotes that compressed databases can be used, how
>is this done?
>
>eg, I have /local/databases/swissprot/seq.dat.Z
>
>which .i file do I change? the srsgen.1 or the individual swissprot.i?


this works only with a 'per entry compression' and with 'one file per entry'
databanks. Examples are pdb, hssp. The file seq.dat.Z for
swissprot could be uncompressed on the fly for the indexing. But then
for doing entry retrieval the whole seq.dat.Z needs to be uncompressed for
accessing even a single entry.

>
>Is anyone actively working on the documentation? and would they like a
>hand as it's eeerm, difficult at the moment....

Any input is very welcome. You could print out the manual, annotate it, eg,
mark the passages that are not understandable and send it to us.


regards
thure



From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Mar 31 23:00:00 1998
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From: j.rullmann@organon.oss.akzonobel.nl (Ton Rullmann)
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Subject: wgetz compilation problems?
Date: 1 Apr 1998 07:16:56 -0800
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Problem: I reinstalled the WWW server by running "./srsinstall www".
Compilation appears normal, a wgetz binary is produced and copied to the
www/bin directory. Only it does not run, and seems to wait (for input?).
The install script does not finish (no index.html made), and typing
"wgetz -help" at the command line gives no output.
Previously all worked fine.
I feel rather stupid. What is the problem?
Thanks for your help,
Ton.
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From: Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Add another html link to swissprot
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 09:30:08 +0100
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Ramu Chenna wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody
> 
> There are few swissprot entries ( BST1_HUMAN for quick check)
> which have www links in comment line.
> 
> Add the following icarus lines to swissprot.is do make them clickable!
> 
>   h_cc:       ~ {$In:[fields c:cc t:html]}
>                 (tag
>                   ('WWW="' href {$Rep:"<A HREF=$Ct>$Ct</A>"} | ln ))* ~
> 
>   href:      ~ /[^"]+/ ~
> 

To enable hypertext links to more than one URL per CC line block and to 
include FTP URLs, you might want to use:


  h_cc:      ~ {$In:[fields c:cc t:html]} 
               (tag 
                 (('FTP="'| 'WWW="') 
                  /[^"]+/ {$Rep:{$ParStr:urlR $Ct $Ct}} ln | ln ))* ~


This production uses hypertext link definition 'urlR' which is in file 
srsdb.i:

 $href:[urlR         link:"<A HREF=%s>%s</A>"]

There are only four "FTP" links in current release of SWISS-PROT 
and all but one lack 'ftp://' string from the beginning (see BTK_HUMAN,
Q06187). The SWISS-PROT annotators are fixing this now. 

	-Heikki

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