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From: friard@area.ba.cnr.it (Olivier Friard)
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hi,
are the index files of SRS (.IDX and .IDS) available? 

Thank you 

Olivier

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From: Chris Upton <cup@athena.bioc.uvic.ca>
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Hi,
  Could someone point me to a straight forward user guide for SRS?

Thanks,
   Chris Upton

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From: "Thure Etzold" <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
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Ewan Birney wrote in message <35780653.41C6@sanger.ac.uk>...
>Chris Upton wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>   Could someone point me to a straight forward user guide for SRS?


well, i am sorry - i doesn't exist yet.

>>
>> Thanks,
>>    Chris Upton
>
><grin> **straight forward** guide - no
>
>the guide for SRS off any SRS site, but I have to admit, I just
>find it confusing...
>
>(srsdev... are you listening?)
>
>There is the problem that SRS is a complex beast, and tough to document.
>
>But I would give anything for
>
> a) losing the stupid frames format of the help pages
> b) having a nice hardcopy (latex?) representation


We are discussing a complete reformat of the existing documentation
which is mainly about server maintenance, and to add a lot more 'user
documentation'. We noticed that almost nobody is interested to to the
real RTFM, i mean, read it all, but only the in bit that is relevant for
a particular problem.

Our plan is to make a documentation databank called 'srsfaq' or just 'faq'
with entries which document only a single task, eg, "get sequences in fasta"
format. These entries will have a lot of cross-references to related
entries or other pages in the documentation. The main advantage is that it
can be indexed and easily be extended by other people with, eg, server
specific information.

...we would even be willing to give up frames;-)

..suggestions??

thure






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From: Ewan Birney <birney@sanger.ac.uk>
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Chris Upton wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>   Could someone point me to a straight forward user guide for SRS?
> 
> Thanks,
>    Chris Upton

<grin> **straight forward** guide - no

the guide for SRS off any SRS site, but I have to admit, I just
find it confusing...

(srsdev... are you listening?)

There is the problem that SRS is a complex beast, and tough to document.

But I would give anything for

	a) losing the stupid frames format of the help pages
	b) having a nice hardcopy (latex?) representation
	
-- 
Ewan Birney
<birney@sanger.ac.uk>
http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/birney/

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From: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>
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Ewan Birney <birney@sanger.ac.uk> writes:

> There is the problem that SRS is a complex beast, and tough to document.
> 
> But I would give anything for
> 
> 	a) losing the stupid frames format of the help pages
> 	b) having a nice hardcopy (latex?) representation

Anything Ewan?? As you are just up the corridor, I'll give some
thought to my prize for suggesting the following:

a) no frames
============

You can lose the frames by going for just the manual section of
interest.  For example, using NetScape:

Go to the SRS top page:

	http://www.sanger.ac.uk/srs5/

Go to the SRS manual page:

	http://www.sanger.ac.uk/srs51/man/srsman.html

In the left hand frame (list of sections) Middle-button click on the one
you want, for exmaple SRSWWW for the Web server interface, and it
will pop up in a new frame-free window

	http://www.sanger.ac.uk/srs51/man/mtoc_srswww.html

... magically, you are reading that section without frames.

b) printed copy
   ============

Middle-button Click on *any* link in the table of contents to bring up
the manual text in a new window.

	http://www.sanger.ac.uk/srs51/man/mi_srswww.html#intro

Then print from NetScape and you have a printed manual.


P.S. Note for Chris Upton (who started this thread) : Kate Neill sends
her regards :-)


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From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
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>...we would even be willing to give up frames;-)

I recently had to update the local IU biology web server
with a frames display (not my choice).  The first several
comments I got were - drop the frames.  HTML frames is a
formatting device that seems to cause more hassle than it
is worth, to many users.  When I try to read documents
formatted with them, the frames typically really get in the
way of reading. 

Another significant problem with frames:
when an inframe document links to documents from other services,
those external docs are typically encapsulated in your frame layout
- usually to the detriment of the layout and presentation
of that external service.  There is a case of one company
sueing another in Indiana over this - because it makes it
appear to the reader that the external document, enclosed
in a local title frame, were owned/presented by the local
service. A sort of Internet plagerism.

Usually you can accomplish the same formatting without the
problems, using HTML tables.

- Don

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From: Ewan Birney <birney@sanger.ac.uk>
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Peter Rice wrote:
> 
> Ewan Birney <birney@sanger.ac.uk> writes:
> 
> > There is the problem that SRS is a complex beast, and tough to document.
> >
> > But I would give anything for
> >
> >       a) losing the stupid frames format of the help pages
> >       b) having a nice hardcopy (latex?) representation
> 
> Anything Ewan?? As you are just up the corridor, I'll give some
> thought to my prize for suggesting the following:
> 
[snip]

aaahhhh.... and it is so easy! ;)

but - glad to hear that Thure - as usual - has already thought of the
problem
and has a solution (a general solution?) in hand

I close with my normal SRS mantra

	- lets have a clean perl-XS port
	- lets have a clean client-server implementation
	- documentation for idiots wanted
 

Ewan Birney
<birney@sanger.ac.uk>
http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/birney/

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From: Arne Mueller <amuelle3@gwdg.de>
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Chris Upton wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>   Could someone point me to a straight forward user guide for SRS?
> 
> Thanks,
>    Chris Upton


Hi,

did you allreday look at http://www.expasy.ch/srs5/man/srsman.html ?

	greetings,

	Arne

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37077 Goettingen        
Germany
phone: +49-551-399654   | fax  : +49-551-393805   
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From: Jean-Marc Plaza <plaza@infobiogen.fr>
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Hello !

I found an error message in severals SRS Sites about
CDS and map_peptide features in GenbanK or EMBL.
It concerns the "join " function which contains accession number.
For instance in embl-id:HSINSR24
 the feature mat_peptide or CDS shows the warning
!!!Wrong location definition

--
ID   HSINSR24_3; parent: HSINSR24
AC   M32972;
FT   mat_peptide
join(M23100:1905..1923,M32823:174..725,M32824:114..435,
FT                   M32825:318..466,M32826:188..332,M32827:189..403,
FT                   M32828:277..403,M32829:124..374,M32830:106..273,
FT                   M32831:187..388,M32832:123..158,M32833:161..435,
FT                   M32834:93..232,M32835:85..244,M32836:92..194,
FT                   M32837:261..328,M32838:136..380,M32839:117..227,
FT
M32840:45..204,M32841:115..244,M32842:101..235,83..434)
FT                   /codon_start=1
FT                   /note="G00-119-352"
FT                   /gene="INSR"
FT                   /map="19p13.3-p13.2"
FT                   /product="insulin receptor"
!!!Wrong location definition

Thanks in advance for your help

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From: Chris Upton <cup@athena.bioc.uvic.ca>
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Arne Mueller wrote:
> 
> Chris Upton wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >   Could someone point me to a straight forward user guide for SRS?

> 
> did you allreday look at http://www.expasy.ch/srs5/man/srsman.html ?
> 
>         greetings,
> 
>         Arne
> 
> --
> Arne Mueller

Thanks...  I did ask for straightforward though!! :-)

But, I went back to it and did find not quite as obscure second time
around.

Chris

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From: Tim Eyres <tim.eyres@genedata.com>
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Subject: Bug: Multiple database selection
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Hi all

Can anyone help me with a bug in SRS? Please follow these steps on an
SRS server.

1. Select a large set of databases from the Top Page of SRS, say over
30. (this may not always be neccesary, the bug does sometimes occur with
less databases)

2. Press the Continue button

3. Press the Alternative Query form so that you have the version 5 query
form

4. Click the ID link on the left hand side and you'll find it returns a
blank page instead of details about ID

Can anyone help? I know this error occurs on the EBI SRS server if you
selects the first 36 Databases.

Tim Eyres

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Dear:
  
   I am cloning a gene,I want to eliminate  known genes  by enzyme
cleavage.

   Does anyone know of a software or a database with which I can 
compare the restriction map of the cDNA on hand with that of the genes
in cDNA databases?

   Thanks in advance.

    NHR


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Tim Eyres wrote:

> 4. Click the ID link on the left hand side and you'll find it returns a
> blank page instead of details about ID

 we too get the blank page. It's because wgetz core-dumps
(there's a core file in the tmp dir). The core file says
it's because of the following code:

void LibGroupAddDb (LIBvGroup group, SLBo *lib)
{
  group->library[group->libraryN++] = lib;   <-----
}

The LIBvGroup (=~ SRSoGROUP) type is defined in (library.h and) srs5.h:

typedef struct SRSoGROUP {
.
.
  struct SLBo             *library[50];  /* Pointers to the libraries in
the group */
.
.
}					  

So I would only have expected problems when selecting 51
libraries or more simultaneously (==in one group)...
Simply changing the 50 to 100 didn't work with me.

Regards,
Koen.
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Testing...


From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Jun 14 23:00:00 1998
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Hello,
does anyone know if SRS has a problem with hypens in query strings?

have had trouble with M-cadherin and beta-lactamase, are these parsed as
seperate words?

any info would be great, thanks.
Maurice

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 and nothing in it is an official statement of molecular simulations inc.

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Jun 15 23:00:00 1998
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From: Tim Eyres <tim.eyres@genedata.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: hypens in queries
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:36:11 +0200
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Maurice Manning wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> does anyone know if SRS has a problem with hyphens in query strings?
> 
> have had trouble with M-cadherin and beta-lactamase, are these parsed as
> seperate words?
> 

What database are these in? You probably need to look at the .is file
for the database to figure out what it is doing with the hyphens.

Or are these databases names?

Tim

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Jun 16 23:00:00 1998
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From: "K. Cuelenaere" <koenc@caos.kun.nl>
Subject: Re: hypens in queries
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Maurice Manning wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> does anyone know if SRS has a problem with hypens in query strings?
> 
> have had trouble with M-cadherin and beta-lactamase, are these parsed as
> seperate words?
> 
> any info would be great, thanks.
> Maurice
> 
> --
> Maurice Manning                                 Molecular Simulations,
> Inc.
> mmanning@msi.com                            9685 Scranton Road
> (619) 799 - 5316                                   San Diego, Ca
> 92121-3752
>                                                            Web:
> http://www.msi.com
> 
> 
>  -disclaimer-
>  unless stated otherwise, everything in the above message is personal opinion
>  and nothing in it is an official statement of molecular simulations inc.

Did you try a wildcard in front of the words your looking for?
like: *cadherin and *lactamase? Better do this in the description
field only first because the search take longer this way.

Best regards,
Koen.

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CAOS/CAMM Center		Phone: +31 24 3653383
University of Nijmegen		Fax:   +31 24 3652977
Toernooiveld
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Thu Jun 18 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 19 Jun 1998 02:00:11 -0700
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
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Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
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Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
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A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

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   subscribe methods
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   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
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To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
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4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Thu Jun 18 23:00:00 1998
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Jun 22 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!FHCRC.ORG!tcolbert
From: tcolbert@FHCRC.ORG (Trent Colbert)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Using Perl's LWP to access SRS?
Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:59:15 -0700
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I am trying to do automated searches via the LWP perl module. I have
sent off a request using the POST method and the required key value
pairs plus the text I am searching for and its key. I recieve the error
message: "arguments missing".  Must I submit values to SRS in a
particular order.  Are there any FAQs on ways to access SRS other than
through a browser? Does anyone have a Perl script with queries SRS that
they would be willing to send me? Thanks for reading. Trent

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Jun 23 23:00:00 1998
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From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Using Java to access SRS (Re: Using Perls's LWP ...)
Date: 24 Jun 1998 05:22:56 GMT
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
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I perfer Java now for many things that once were Perl-ish,
including Internet uses.  Java has standard Internet classes 
that make fetching data from network servers pretty simple.  
You may want to try this example for querying SRS servers.

-- Don


// FetchFromSRS.java
// d.gilbert, jun'98 - simple java command-line app to fetch from srs server
//
// to use from a unix command-line
// javac FetchFromSRS.java
// java FetchFromSRS 'esterase&drosophila' > srs.html; lynx srs.html
// java FetchFromSRS host=srs.ebi.ac.uk:5000 lib=embl lib=emblnew field=all 'melanogaster&esterase' > emblsrs.html


import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;
import java.net.*;

class UsageException extends Exception {}

public class FetchFromSRS
{
  public final static int v5= 0, v4 = 1;
  public static int gSRSversion = v5;
  public static String 
    gHost  = "iubio.bio.indiana.edu",
    gLibs  = "genbank genbanknew gbest",
    gField = "all",
    gOptions= "+-f+des", // describe entries
    gQuery = "esterase*";
  public static String gPath[]=  { "/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz", "/srs/srsc" };
  String outname, libs; 

  public static void main(String args[]) 
  {         
    FetchFromSRS fsrs= new FetchFromSRS();
    try { fsrs.run(args); }
    catch (UsageException e) {}
    catch (Exception e) { e.printStackTrace(); }
  }
  
  public FetchFromSRS() {}
  
  public void run(String args[]) throws Exception
  {
    readArgs(args);
    String url= "http://" + gHost + gPath[gSRSversion] ;
    PrintStream pr= System.out;
    if (outname!=null) try { 
      pr= new PrintStream( new FileOutputStream(outname)); 
      }
    catch (IOException e) {}
    // make sure output html contains base url
    pr.println("<HTML><HEAD><BASE HREF=\""+url+"\"></HEAD><BODY>");
    fetchFromUrl( pr, url + getQuery());
  }
  
  void readArgs(String[] args) throws Exception
  {
    if (args==null || args.length==0) usage();
    for (int i=0; i<args.length; i++) {
      String arg= args[i], argval;
      int at= arg.indexOf('=');
      if (at>0) argval= arg.substring(at+1); else argval= null;
      if (arg.startsWith("out=")) outname= argval;
      else if (arg.startsWith("host=")) gHost = argval;
      else if (arg.startsWith("vers=")) {
        if (argval.indexOf('4')>0) gSRSversion= v4; else gSRSversion= v5;
        }
      else if (arg.startsWith("field=")) gField= argval;
      else if (arg.startsWith("lib=")) 
      	libs = (libs==null) ? argval : libs + " " + argval;
      else if (arg.startsWith("opts=")) gOptions= argval;
      else if (argval==null) gQuery= arg; // assume if no = then a query 
      else usage();
      }
  }

  public void usage() throws UsageException
  {
    System.out.println( this.getClass().getName() + " [arguments] query-term ");
    System.out.println("arguments:");
    System.out.println( "  host=SRSserver[:port], default=" + gHost);
    System.out.println( "  lib=data-library, default=" + gLibs);
    System.out.println( "  field=data-field, default=" + gField);
    System.out.println( "  opts=srs-options, default=" + gOptions);
    System.out.println( "  vers=5 or 4 (srs server version)");
    System.out.println( "  out=output.file");
    throw new UsageException(); 
  }
  
  protected void fetchFromUrl(PrintStream pr, String url)
  {
    try {
      DataInputStream din= new DataInputStream(new URL(url).openStream());
      String s= din.readLine();
      while (s!=null) {
        // process input line ...
        pr.println(s);
        s= din.readLine();
        }
      }
    catch (Exception e) { 
	System.err.println("fetchFromUrl err: " + e.getMessage()); }
  }
  
  protected String getQuery()
  {
    String q;
    if (gQuery.indexOf(']')>0) q= gQuery;
    else {
      if (libs==null) libs= gLibs;
      q= "[" + encodeLibs(libs) + "-" + gField + ":" + gQuery + "]";
      }
    q= URLEncoder.encode(q);
    // add any SRS options...
    q += gOptions; // describe the entries
    return "?" + q;
  }
  
  protected String encodeLibs(String libs)
  {
    // convert more than one lib to this messy form to run the hurdles of
    // netscrape->httpd->unix-cmdline->wgetz
    // libs={genbank_SP_genbanknew_SP_gbest}  
    String elibs= null;
    StringTokenizer st= new StringTokenizer(libs, " ");
    int nlib= st.countTokens();
    for (int i=0; i< nlib; i++) {
      if (elibs==null) elibs= st.nextToken();
      else elibs +=  "_SP_" + st.nextToken(); // hidden SRS syntax for a space
      }
    if (nlib>1) elibs = "libs={" + elibs + "}";
    return elibs;
  }

}

--
-- d.gilbert--biocomputing--indiana-u--bloomington-in-47405
-- gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Jun 23 23:00:00 1998
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From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: Using Perl's LWP to access SRS?
Date: 24 Jun 1998 01:20:00 GMT
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
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You may have better success with GET instead of POST, if
you suitably url-encode the somewhat messy url's that can
result:

http://srs.ebi.ac.uk:5000/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?[libs%3D%7Bembl_SP_emblnew%7D-all:esterase*]+-e

For instance this pulls all the reports from two libraries
for a term using the -all field.  You can also use compound queries,
joining [term]&[term].

Knowing the 'getz' syntax for srs will help.  Knowing
that _SP_ is a hidden SRS key for joining library names
will help.  It is not hard to hack together a simpler interface
that wgetz for automated queries, if you are running your
own SRS server.  IUBio has one such (see the iubio.bio.indiana.edu/Genbank
section).

- don

--
-- d.gilbert--biocomputing--indiana-u--bloomington-in-47405
-- gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Jun 24 23:00:00 1998
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Windows 98 OEM

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Jun 29 23:00:00 1998
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
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From: Maurice Manning <mmm@mica.msi.com>
Subject: Sequence_Simple - type view for structure DBs
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hi folks,
does anyone know of a view that gives a short description of an entry in
a structure database similar to the one that is returned by
SequenceSimple?

what i am looking for is a quesry to return something like:

%getz '[PDB-id:1a*]' -view SeqienceSimpleForStruct

 id    description
 id    description

 
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From: Maurice Manning <mmm@mica.msi.com>
Subject: SequenceSimple-type view for structure DBs
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hi folks,
does anyone know of a view that gives a short description of an entry in
a structure database similar to the one that is returned by
SequenceSimple?

what i am looking for is a query to return something like:

%getz '[PDB-id:1a*]' -view SeqienceSimpleForStruct

 id    description
 id    description
 id    description
 id    description
 id    description.

and so on.

any ideas would be great!
Maurice

 
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 and nothing in it is an official statement of molecular simulations inc.

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From: bshomer@curagen.com
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Subject: Problem to index multiple files
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Dear friends,

I'm experiencing a strange problem trying to index multiple
source files with a wildcard (e.g. PDB).

When specified  in the FileType function call:
searchName:'pdb*.ent.Z'
SRS simply ignores all the files in the directory and fails
to read any file.

I tried it with several setups/searchName combinations, to
no avail.

Does anyone have a clue as for this strange behaviour?

I'm running SRS version 5.1.0

Thanks in advance,


Benny.

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