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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Oct 04 23:00:00 1998
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From: Flavio Licciulli <flavio@area.ba.cnr.it>
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I'm searching the query string to search a list of accession numbers
(for example Embl) from utside SRSWWW and makes a query in the query
manager.
I have a list of accession numbers in an external program and i want
create a query list in SRS via WWW.

Thanks in advance
Flavio
            Italian Embnet Node


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From: Flavio Licciulli <flavio@area.ba.cnr.it>
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Subject: Re: Query from outside SRSWWW
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To: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>

Peter Rice wrote:

> Flavio Licciulli <flavio@area.ba.cnr.it> writes:
>
> > I'm searching the query string to search a list of accession numbers
> > (for example Embl) from utside SRSWWW and makes a query in the query
> > manager.
> > I have a list of accession numbers in an external program and i want
> > create a query list in SRS via WWW.
>
> You can put the accession numbers in a list with pipe characters in between,
> for example:
>
> http://www.sanger.ac.uk/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-e+[embl-acc:x13776|m27612]
>

In this way i have only a list of entries.
I want to create a query (Q1, Q2,...) and then manage this query in our SRS.
My goal is to simulate a "Do Query" of the "Query Form" from outside SRS and
then manipolate the result in our SRS.

>
> Of course, you may still have to strip the HTML from the results to use
> them in a program. Otherwise EMBL entries start with "<PRE>ID"
> instead of with "ID".

This is not necessary for me, I don't want to display the results in my program,
but i want to manage that in our SRS....

Flavio Licciulli



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From: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Query from outside SRSWWW
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Flavio Licciulli <flavio@area.ba.cnr.it> writes:

> I'm searching the query string to search a list of accession numbers
> (for example Embl) from utside SRSWWW and makes a query in the query
> manager.
> I have a list of accession numbers in an external program and i want
> create a query list in SRS via WWW.

You can put the accession numbers in a list with pipe characters in between,
for example:

http://www.sanger.ac.uk/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-e+[embl-acc:x13776|m27612]

Of course, you may still have to strip the HTML from the results to use
them in a program. Otherwise EMBL entries start with "<PRE>ID"
instead of with "ID".

This still is not much help with a long list - the URL or the command
line would get too long.

Hey Thure - how is progress on allowing lists of entries to be passed
to getz .... ?

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From: "Thure Etzold" <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Query from outside SRSWWW
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Peter Rice wrote in message ...
>
>Hey Thure - how is progress on allowing lists of entries to be passed
>to getz .... ?
>


working on that - definetely in the next release!


thure



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Flavio Licciulli wrote in message

>In this way i have only a list of entries.
>I want to create a query (Q1, Q2,...) and then manage this query in our
SRS.
>My goal is to simulate a "Do Query" of the "Query Form" from outside SRS
and
>then manipolate the result in our SRS.
>-


someone tried that during the SRS workshop at the EBI last week and it
didn't
seem to work. In priniciple one must open a session clicking on the start
button on the start page which creates a new session, get the ID by
searching it in the source
of the next HTML page and use that to create a wgetz call like

wgetz -id userID [embl-id:...]

in principle this query should be registered in the query history but for
some reason it isn't ...sorry
will follow this up and fix it.
Another improvement will be to do a call like
wgetz -start -returnId

that creates a new session and returns only the new userID

regards
thure




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Hi,

site name: Clayon's Shareware
url: http://clayon.interspeed.net
description: Offering the absolutely positively best shareware, 

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  先打開 NETSCAPE NEWS, 再在網景瀏覽器中從功能選單中先選取 Windows,
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  的按鈕『POST NEWS』此會出現一個編輯新文章的視窗. 為你的文章選一個
  吸引人的標題. 將你目前看到的這篇文章 COPY 然後 PASTE 到訊息欄內, 當
  然你可以適當的修改這篇文章 (你必須將你的名字地址加在文章的第五位,
  並將剩下四個人的名字地址往上等移一位). 當你把整篇文章打好或 COPY 之
  後, 點選『SEND NOW』按鈕上方的『FILE』, 然後選『SAVE AS』. 在你儲
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  已將要寄送的文章內容儲存好, 開始來寄送你的第一篇文章吧！點選左上方
『SEND NOW』的按鈕. 現在你要開始寄送 250 封 POST 了, 選擇任一新聞討
  論區, 再次點選『POST NEW MESSAGE』按鈕. 幫你的文章取個引人注目的
  標題, 然後移到剛 SAVE 的文章本文的部份, 按住滑鼠左鍵不放, 將整個文章
  反白起來, 然後用 COPY 和 PASTE 方式將整篇文章拷備至新的文字的視窗即
  可. 現在開始陸續貼往不同的 250 個新聞討論區吧！

  使用微軟的探險家瀏覽器 Microsoft Internet Explorer :

  方法也是一樣的簡單, 按住滑鼠左鍵不放, 將整個文章反白起來, 然後同時按
  著『CTRL』及『C』鍵將整篇文章拷貝到剪貼簿. 此時再將本文列印出來,這
  樣你就有一份你曾經寄出港幣 20 元的名單了. 記得將你自己的名字地址加
  在名單的最後！這時候再次將文章反白起來, 重新 COPY 一次, 以確認你已
  經 COPY 了修正過的文章內容. 這時後你只需要在你準備貼文章的討論區選
  擇發表新的文章, 然後以『CTRL+V』將文章一起貼 (PASTE) 出, 就是這麼簡
  單, 你只需要選擇不同的新聞討論區, 然後選擇『POST』發表文章.等你習慣
  整個過程後, 每發一封信大約只需要 30 秒的時間呢！在本文章面版功能列
  上點選 [編輯] 項, 再點選 [全選] , 此時整個文章反白, 再點選 [複製] ,
  則我的文章就複製在您的剪貼簿上 (目前看不到). 也可同時按 [CTRL]+[C]鍵.
  完成以上動作之後, 依序點選 [新聞]   [開啟新的新聞群組郵件], 此時將出現
  新的空白論稿. 且游標停留在要求輸入新聞群組處, 由於本文為中文,故儘量發中文
  區群組較有效. 再依序點選[新聞]   [選擇新聞群組], 此時出現許多討論區,您
  可以在上方輸入搜尋 "hk." 或 " tw."的關鍵字, 則所見列出的就是 "香港" 或

  "台灣" 相關的討論區, 這時就依您個人需要挑選並張貼文章了. 請記住, 你貼
  的新聞討論區越多, 相對地你就會得到越多的回應. 同時你也會得到越多的
  回響！就是這麼簡單, 你將收到來自香港或台灣乃至於全球各地的回信, 希
  望能加入你的 "郵遞名單" ! 當然, 請務必確認寄送地址的正確!
  接下來我必須告訴你為什麼這樣做能得到分享的原因 (以在香港收到港幣為
  例) : 在你發出的 250 封文章中, 假設只有五個人回應你的文章 (這個舉列用
  的比例相當低), 當我的名字在第五位時我賺進了港幣 100 元. 現在回應我文
  章的五個人, 也就是寄給我港幣 20 元的這五個人又各自至少貼出了 250 封
  文章, 此時我的名字將上移至第四位, 假設也只有五個人各自回應給他們這
  五個人 (也就是最早寄錢給我的人), 那我又收進了港幣 500 元, 若這 25 個人

  也各自貼出了 250 封文章, 此時我的名字在名單中的第三位, 若也是只有五
  個人各自回應他們的文章, 那我將再收到了港幣 2,500 元, 此時這 125 人在
  各自貼出 250 封文章, 此時我的名字在第二位, 同樣他們每個人也各自收到
  5 個回應, 那我又將收到港幣 12,500 元. 同理, 625人也各自貼出 250 篇文章,
  此時我的名字在第一位, 那我將再收入港幣 62,500元. 而我最初的投資只有
  港幣 20 元. 這實在是相當令人不可思議. 更何況假設只有五個人回應的比例
  明顯偏低. 平均來說大約會有 20 - 30 人回應, 假設是 15 人的話, 你將會收
  到多少 ?
  名字在第五位時港幣 100 元 (或台幣 500 元)
  名字在第四位時港幣 500 元 (或台幣 2,500 元)
  名字在第三位時港幣 2,500 元 (或台幣 12,500 元)
  名字在第二位時港幣 12,500 元 (或台幣 62,500 元)
  名字在第一位時港幣 62,500 元 (或台幣 312,500 元)
  這是一個合法簡易又快速的集資方法！
  當你的名字已經掉出名單之外時, 你就從新聞討論區中再找一篇文章回覆.
  再次將你的名字放在名單中的第五位, 重新再來一次. 想想看每天都有成千
  上萬的人投入網際網路之中. 同時每天也有許許多多的人在閱讀新聞討論
  區的文章, 我想你應該是負擔的起這港幣 20元或台幣 100 元的小小投資, 如
  果你還抱持著懷疑的態度, 為什麼不試試看呢? 你就會知道結果了, 這是行
  的通的！最後請您記住 "誠實為上" 的原則, 請務必將錢寄給名單上的人否
  則你將不會得到太多的回應的! 因為如果您不把錢寄給名單上的人, 卻在名
  單中加入您的姓名而張貼在新聞群組的話, 讓那些原本您應該回饋給他的人
  上網發現, 則所有人將會在網路上大力評擊您, 不但讓您無法收到錢, 另外更
  名譽掃地, 所以請您誠實為上. 並且給您一個衷心的建議, 請不要猶豫, 馬上
  行動, 若因您慢一秒鐘讓有心參與者先看到他人早一步張貼的文章, 成為他
  人郵遞名單中的一員, 雖然無損自身的利益, 但想來總有些懊惱吧! 不要輸在
  起跑點上, 快步跟進吧！
  再次謝謝你耐心看完本文, 祝你好運, 並善用這些分享所得的資源, 共同造就
  一個屬於我們自己奮鬥的奇蹟嘩！超正呀！！
  發達捷徑!! 唔睇就執輸!!


From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Oct 18 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 19 Oct 1998 02:00:13 -0700
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
------------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
--------------------------------------------------------------------
computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
-------------------------------------------------

To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.


From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sun Oct 18 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-ge.switch.ch!serra.unipi.it!bigarea.area.ba.cnr.it!massimo@area.ba.cnr.it
From: Flavio Licciulli <flavio@area.ba.cnr.it>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Sequence from embl database
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:55:17 +0200
Organization: CNR - Area di Ricerca - Bari,Italy
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In our SRS server i have a databank with EMBL-like format (UTR
database).
I indexed the feature table of this databank.
I click on a "FT key" to display the feature information, then i want to
retrieve the sequence from the EMBL datalibrary through the Embl
Location.

This is an example of a feature entry of UTR:
ID   3AAC000009_1; parent: 3AAC000009
AC   CC012324;
FT   3'UTR           EMBL::U46754:592..1018

The Srs doesn't display the sequence from EMBL index files....
How can I resolve this problem? Are there any error in the Location
format?

Regards
Flavio Licciulli
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Oct 19 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!novia!sws1.ctd.ornl.gov!not-for-mail
From: Denise Schmoyer <dcs@ornl.gov>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Release Numbers
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:34:58 -0400
Organization: Oak Ridge Sample Management Office
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I am adding release numbers using the srsbuild command.  For example,
srsbuild -rel "7.0" sptrembl
The release number appears on the Database Information Page for sptrembl
but
it does not appear on the Data Banks Available Page.  How can I get the
release number to show up in the Release column on the Data Banks
Available
page?

Thanks for advice on this issue.

Denise Schmoyer
dcs@ornl.gov



From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Oct 20 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.new-york.net!diablo.cs.uofs.edu!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp2.ptd.net.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: "James Campbell" <James@Virtual-Information.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Access97 Compression???????????
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Could someone please give me some information about a way to compress a huge
Access database so that it would still be able to be accessed by visual
basic 5.0. I am with a growing software company and we are very close to our
newest release of our program. Our problem is that we must fit the whole
program on a single CD. We need a way to compress our database so that the
user will be able to still run our program from the rom .We also would not
like to lose too much speed.  If you know of a way we could acheive this
through certain tools or 3rd party software please contact me at
James@Virtual-Information.com or call me at 1-888-420-8099.
Thank you,
James Campbell



From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 21 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!btnet-peer!btnet!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!server1.netnews.ja.net!hgmp.mrc.ac.uk!not-for-mail
From: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: A challenge for parser writers
Date: 22 Oct 1998 09:43:57 +0100
Organization: The Sanger Centre
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I just picked up patchx from NBRF
ftp://nbrf.georgetown.edu/pub/pir/

Anybody fancy writing a parser for it? I checked DATABANKS at EBI but
found no sign of it.

Entries are in PIR format, but using both CODATA and non-CODATA versions.

This makes it a real challenge.

-- 
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E-mail: pmr@sanger.ac.uk  | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,
Tel: (44) 1223 494967     | Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SA, England
Fax: (44) 1223 494919     | URL: http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/pmr/

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Oct 21 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!su-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.news.gtei.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.indiana.edu!not-for-mail
From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: A challenge for parser writers
Date: 22 Oct 1998 14:14:56 GMT
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
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Peter,

You may want to look a the PIR srs files at IUBio.bio.indiana.edu.
They index PIR in codata format (much nicer to users than that
nbrf format used elsewhere).

- Don
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-- d.gilbert--biocomputing--indiana-u--bloomington-in-47405
-- gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Fri Oct 23 23:00:00 1998
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From: "Pieter van Santen" <santen.roemers@wxs.nl>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Bioreactor Design Program
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:38:08 +0200
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Dear colleague,

I developed a program which can be used to design new bioreactors, or to
calculate parameters of already used bioreactors. If you are interested, you
can find more information at:
http://home.wxs.nl/~pvsanten/bioreactor/brd.htm


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From: "Thure Etzold" <etzold@ebi.ac.uk>
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A few people reported problems building indices on dec osf1 version 4.
I think I found the problem. It is very simple to fix.
Edit SRSSOU:index.c, go to line 522

change the line

      return (INT4)  h % table->max_hash_elem;

to

      return (INT4)  (h % table->max_hash_elem);

then do a

srsmake srsbuild

regards
thure




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From: timc@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Tim Cutts)
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In article <717oje$r63$1@niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk>,
Thure Etzold <etzold@ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
>A few people reported problems building indices on dec osf1 version 4.
>I think I found the problem. It is very simple to fix.
>Edit SRSSOU:index.c, go to line 522

Don't you mean line 124, Thure?

>
>change the line
>
>      return (INT4)  h % table->max_hash_elem;
>
>to
>
>      return (INT4)  (h % table->max_hash_elem);
>
>then do a
>
>srsmake srsbuild
>
>regards
>thure

Regards,

Tim.



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Tim Cutts wrote in message <0rk*J1GJn@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>...
>In article <717oje$r63$1@niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk>,
>Thure Etzold <etzold@ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
>>A few people reported problems building indices on dec osf1 version 4.
>>I think I found the problem. It is very simple to fix.
>>Edit SRSSOU:index.c, go to line 522
>
>Don't you mean line 124, Thure?
>


you got a point there! yes, it is line 124.
index.c has 522 lines in total
um, still have problems communicating with emacs


regards
thure