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From: gbottu@bigben.vub.ac.be (Guy Bottu)
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Subject: taxonomy database ?
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Just a simple question : does someone know an anonymous ftp site with an
up-to-date version of the "taxonomy" database, for which there are
icarus files in the release of SRS5 ?

	Thanks in advance,
	  Dr. Guy Bottu

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From: Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
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Guy,

The taxonomy database in question is the NCBI taxonomy database which we
here at EBI have based on sequence databank collaboration. The data are
in table dumps read in relational system. I've been experimenting with
EMBL programmers to get a reasonable flat file out of it. Things have
been quite stable for some time now. 

I'll find out if we can put the file in our public FTP server.

	-Heikki


Guy Bottu wrote:
> 
> Just a simple question : does someone know an anonymous ftp site with an
> up-to-date version of the "taxonomy" database, for which there are
> icarus files in the release of SRS5 ?
> 
>         Thanks in advance,
>           Dr. Guy Bottu

-- 
______ _/      _/_____________________________________________________
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    _/_/_/_/_/  EMBL Outstation, European Bioinformatics Institute
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___ _/_/_/_/_/________________________________________________________

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From: Nicole Redaschi <redaschi@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
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Guy & Heikki,
we also had requests from other people to make the taxonomy flatfile we
produce for in-house use publically available. You can find it on our ftp
site ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/databases/taxonomy.  

-nicole

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Heikki Lehvaslaiho wrote:

> Guy,
> 
> The taxonomy database in question is the NCBI taxonomy database which we
> here at EBI have based on sequence databank collaboration. The data are
> in table dumps read in relational system. I've been experimenting with
> EMBL programmers to get a reasonable flat file out of it. Things have
> been quite stable for some time now. 
> 
> I'll find out if we can put the file in our public FTP server.
> 
> 	-Heikki
> 
> 
> Guy Bottu wrote:
> > 
> > Just a simple question : does someone know an anonymous ftp site with an
> > up-to-date version of the "taxonomy" database, for which there are
> > icarus files in the release of SRS5 ?
> > 
> >         Thanks in advance,
> >           Dr. Guy Bottu
> 
> -- 
> ______ _/      _/_____________________________________________________
>       _/      _/                      http://www2.ebi.ac.uk/mutations/
>      _/  _/  _/  Heikki Lehvaslaiho          heikki@ebi.ac.uk
>     _/_/_/_/_/  EMBL Outstation, European Bioinformatics Institute
>    _/  _/  _/  Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton
>   _/  _/  _/  Cambs. CB10 1SD, United Kingdom
>      _/      Phone: +44 (0)1223 494 644   FAX: +44 (0)1223 494 468
> ___ _/_/_/_/_/________________________________________________________
> 
> 

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Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
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Nicole Redaschi <redaschi@ebi.ac.uk> writes:

> we also had requests from other people to make the taxonomy flatfile we
> produce for in-house use publically available. You can find it on our ftp
> site ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/databases/taxonomy.  

OK, I have the data and I am using the icarus files from the EBI to
replace the old ones in the SRS 5.1 distribution.

The -e and -f output options do not seem to work very well - they give
the bare values and not the line from the entry. Seems to be because of
the funny way the fields are saved in taxonomy.is which throws away
the line code:

>  fields:     ~ {$In:entry $Out  $Skip:1}
>                ('//' |
>                 /([A-Z][^:]+): ([^\n]*)\n/
>                 {$s=$2 $Wrt:[$fn.$Trim:$1 s:$Trim:$s]} |
>                 ln {$App}
>                )+ x{$Wrt:[children s:' ']}
>              ~


The links to TAX_UP and TAX_DOWN are fun in their way - but can I get
*all* ancestors or descendants directly rather than one at a time?

getz -e '[taxonomy-taxon:caenorhabditis elegans]     > tax_up > tax_up \
	> tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up \
	> tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up \
	> tax_up'
1
0
no rank
1
root

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Tel: (44) 1223 494967     | Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SA, England
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From: Claudia Rallo <claudia@iigbna.iigb.na.cnr.it>
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Subject: swissprot update
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I have the SRS 5.1 distribution.
I tryto update a Swissprot db with this procedure:
#
# srscheck
++++++> must rebuild index "FtKey" for SWISSPROT, is not up to date
++++++> must rebuild index "FtLength" for SWISSPROT, is not up to date
++++++> must rebuild index "FtDescription" for SWISSPROT, is not up to
date
#
# srsbuild SWISSPROT -f "ftk ftl ftd" -xdir SRSINX: -odir SRSINX: -s
unix -nn
...processing SWISSPROT
...processing /usr/users/dbdata/swissprot/swissprot.ref
...processing /usr/users/dbdata/swissprot/swissprot.seq
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
#

I have try with srsupdate but I have the same results.


Can you help me??

I have a alpha server with "OSF1 V4.0"  and 256 MB RAM


Claudia Rallo


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From: jaugust@bellatlantic.net (John Augustine)
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 Someone, not long ago, was asking for an alternative to
the "Long Filename" system (Windows 95/98), to have
comments about files which can easily be edited.  This person
accumulated many files (.ZIP) downloaded from various FTP
sites, and could not remember, by looking at the filenames in the
directory, what many of the files are for. 

 There is a program called "Directory Comments" for MS-Dos
available at HOTFILES.COM (ZD Net) which allows you to
easily add or change comments about your files.  The
comments are NOT stored in the directory or attached to
the file/s, but in a separate log file (in ascii text).

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>
>
>The links to TAX_UP and TAX_DOWN are fun in their way - but can I get
>*all* ancestors or descendants directly rather than one at a time?
>
>getz -e '[taxonomy-taxon:caenorhabditis elegans]     > tax_up > tax_up \

> > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up \
> > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up > tax_up \
> > tax_up'


yes you can - the solution is

getz -e '[taxonomy-taxon:caenorhabditis elegans] >^ tax_up'

the >^ is a new operator and performs the link to tax_up recursively until
there are no more links available. This also works the other way round

getz -e '[taxonomy-taxon:nematoda]>^tax_dn'

gives you the entire subtree, including 'nematoda' (the ^ after the link
should be reminiscent of
a (sub) tree)

it is also possible to get only the leaves in a subtree defined by a query

getz -e '[taxonomy-taxon:nematoda]>_ tax_dn

Btw, these two link operators are even documented in the chapter about the
SRS query language

regards
thure



>1
>0
>no rank
>1
>root
>
>--
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Peter Rice                | Informatics Division, The Sanger Centre,
>E-mail: pmr@sanger.ac.uk  | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,
>Tel: (44) 1223 494967     | Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SA, England
>Fax: (44) 1223 494919     | URL: http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/pmr/



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Claudia Rallo wrote in message <3641D8DB.4347E7D1@iigbna.iigb.na.cnr.it>...
>I have the SRS 5.1 distribution.
>I tryto update a Swissprot db with this procedure:
>#
># srscheck
>++++++> must rebuild index "FtKey" for SWISSPROT, is not up to date
>++++++> must rebuild index "FtLength" for SWISSPROT, is not up to date
>++++++> must rebuild index "FtDescription" for SWISSPROT, is not up to
>date
>#


This problem is caused by a bug in SRSSOU:srscheck.c. You can edit the
file and replace all occurrances of "LibNextField" by "LibNextAllField"

the rebuild srscheck with

srsmake srscheck

Also apply bug fix posted on 28.10.

regards
thure




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From: Colin Semple <Colin.Semple@hgu.mrc.ac.uk>
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Dear all,

I'm rather new to getz and for some reason can't get scripts
incorporating getz queries to behave properly on the hgmp server. The
script below looks like it should work but generates the error message:

SRSICA:icarus.i:0: error: invalid character, character "'" is not
allowed within parameter "fieldList"

Any help/advice you can give me would be much appreciated, here's the
script:


#!/bin/tcsh -f
#script to make getz queries
 
set noglob
 
set name = N22117
 
set query = "'[libs={embl emblnew}-AllText: $name*]'"
 
echo query = $query
 
set bit = "-f 'AccNumber seq' -sf 'fasta'"
 
echo getz $query $bit
 
getz $query $bit > jim
 
#this works from command line:
#getz '[libs={embl emblnew}-AllText: N22117*]' -f 'AccNumber seq' -sf
'fasta' > jim


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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Nov 11 22:00:00 1998
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From: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: and geneticcode database ?
Date: 12 Nov 1998 16:51:32 +0000
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gbottu@bigben.vub.ac.be (Guy Bottu) writes:

> I have just retrieved the taxonomy database from the EBI anonymous ftp server
> (thanks, Nicole Redaschi !), but I have a new problem : taxonomy contains
> links to geneticcode. Where can we find a suitable version of geneticcode ?
> The file http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:6224/DIRSUB/gc.prt seems not to be
> available anymore and is maybe not in the right format.

The file is at:

ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/misc/data/gc.prt

geneticcode.is needs minor editing because the file uses tabs:

Change all 3 cases of ' {' to '\t{'

P.S. Thanks to NCBI for the acknowledgement :-)

Now, when I build the links from taxonomy to geneticcode,
how come I get only 6/12 genetic codes linked?

The missing ones are listed below. They include "Eubacterial" - i.e. all
the bacteria (which have alternate start codons GTG, CTG and TTG).

getz 'geneticcode ! (geneticcode < taxonomy)' -f name -f id
"Ciliate Macronuclear and Daycladacean"
"SGC5"
6

"Protozoan Mitochondrial (and Kinetoplast)"
"SGC6"
7

"[OBSOLETE, posttranscriptional editing only] Plant Mitochondrial/Chloroplast"
"SGC7"
8

"Euplotid Macronuclear"
"SGC9"
10

"Eubacterial"
11

"Group II yeasts (Nuc Acids Res 1993, 21:4039)"
12


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From: gbottu@bigben.vub.ac.be (Guy Bottu)
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Subject: and geneticcode database ?
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I have just retrieved the taxonomy database from the EBI anonymous ftp server
(thanks, Nicole Redaschi !), but I have a new problem : taxonomy contains
links to geneticcode. Where can we find a suitable version of geneticcode ?
The file http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:6224/DIRSUB/gc.prt seems not to be
available anymore and is maybe not in the right format.

	Guy Bottu

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From: gbottu@bigben.vub.ac.be (Guy Bottu)
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I have installed the file from
ftp://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/misc/data/gc.prt
but there remain problems.

1. The Icarus files from the EBI contain some error :

$link:[@TAXONOMY_DB to:@?GENETICCODE_DB  token:'name|gc' toField:@DF_ID]
$link:[@TAXONOMY_DB to:@?GENETICCODE_DB  token:'name|mgc' toField:@DF_ID]

makes that the linktable for the mitochondrial code overwrites the linktable 
for the code. One solution would be to give both linktables a different name.
Another solution, which I chose, is to merge the two genetic code fields.
You can retrieve the Icarus files from our SRS server at
http://www.be.embnet.org/srs
It turns out that only genetic codes 7 and 8 are not referenced in
taxonomy.

2. Alas ! taxonomy does reference genetic codes 13, 14 and 15 and these
are not found in the gc.prt file
Anyone an idea about where to find them ?

	Guy Bottu

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From: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: and geneticcode database ?
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gbottu@bigben.vub.ac.be (Guy Bottu) writes:
> It turns out that only genetic codes 7 and 8 are not referenced in
> taxonomy.

I still only get 6 codes linked. I used the taxonomy file
ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/databases/taxonomy/taxonomy.dat

> 2. Alas ! taxonomy does reference genetic codes 13, 14 and 15 and these
> are not found in the gc.prt file
> Anyone an idea about where to find them ?

They were in the EGCG 8.1 local data files as trans12.txt ... trans14.txt.
The filename numbers are 1 less than the NCBI numbers but match the
NCBI SGC codes :-)

13 is Ascidian Mitochondrial

           Ascidian Mitochondrial       Standard 

                        W Trp TGA       * End TGA
                        M Met ATA       I Ile ATA
                        G Gly AGA       R Arg AGA
                        G Gly AGG       R Arg AGG

14 is Flatworm Mitochondrial

           Flatworm Mitochondrial       Standard

                        Y Tyr TAA       * End TAA
                        W Trp TGA       * End TGA
                        S Ser AGA       R Arg AGA
                        S Ser AGG       R Arg AGG

15 is Blepharisma Macronuclear
 
     Blepharisma Macronuclear     Standard

                 Q Gln TAG       * End TAG



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From: Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:46:44 +0000
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Peter Rice wrote:
>
> The -e and -f output options do not seem to work very well - they give
> the bare values and not the line from the entry. Seems to be because of
> the funny way the fields are saved in taxonomy.is which throws away
> the line code:

Peter,

Thure and I had a go on the taxonomy files. Take a look at 

http://srs.ebi.ac.uk/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-fun+PageQueryForm+-l+TAXONOMY

The line codes are now there for command line access and a new view has
been created for viewing and navigating the hierarchy. It's not perfect,
yet, but maybe after the next SRS version...

All Thure's examples from the previous message on this thread work now.
tax_dn needs to be writen tax_down:

getz -e '[taxonomy-taxon:caenorhabditis elegans] >^ tax_up'
getz -e '[taxonomy-taxon:nematoda]>^tax_down'
getz -e '[taxonomy-taxon:nematoda]>_tax_down'

The queries inside '' characters above can be written into the
expression field of the query manager, too.

	-Heikki

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From: Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
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Peter Rice wrote:
> 
> Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
> > Peter Rice wrote:
> > > The common name(s) do not seem to be indexed. Can they be added?
> >
> > They are indexed but since there are 10 different fields that contain
> > other than the accepted scientific name, there are no specific search
> > fields for all of them. You can search them using AllText field.
> 
> So, for example, how do I search TAXONOMY for "human" ?
> 
> % getz '[taxonomy-all:human]' -e

Works for me. There must still be some minor discrepancy between Sanger
and EBI files.

	-Heikki

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From: Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
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Peter Rice wrote:
> 
> Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
> > Peter Rice wrote:
> >
> > > But how do I download the EBI's views.i ?
> >
> > I suppose you can not. Sorry. A link will be added into SRS web
> > interface in due time.
> >
> > Put this into your views.i and then srssection:
> 
> OK, now I get the view (except I do not see taxonomy as the default view
> for the database).

taxonomy.i:
TAXONOMY_DB: add "defaultView:@Tax_View"


> When I look at the up link (red arrow) it looks fine up to "Eukaryota"
> but then I see 12 other Taxons including "lobe-finned fish and
> tetrapod clade" and "Fungi/Metazoa group" (on my server and the EBI
> server). Strange because "Eukaryota" has a parent-id of 1 which should
> be straight up to "root".

I was afraid you'd eventually ask that.  8-). At the moment we have to
show the entries in the order they apper in the (flat file) database and
the (relational) database does not have an easy handle to sort them
easily and fast other than by rank. The ones that are clustered on the
top of the list below root all have rank: 'no rank'. We really have to
wait for the next SRS & Icarus version to do better.


> The common name(s) do not seem to be indexed. Can they be added?

They are indexed but since there are 10 different fields that contain
other than the accepted scientific name, there are no specific search
fields for all of them. You can search them using AllText field. 

	-Heikki

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Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
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Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
> Peter Rice wrote:
> 
> > But how do I download the EBI's views.i ?
> 
> I suppose you can not. Sorry. A link will be added into SRS web
> interface in due time.
> 
> Put this into your views.i and then srssection:

OK, now I get the view (except I do not see taxonomy as the default view
for the database).

When I look at the up link (red arrow) it looks fine up to "Eukaryota"
but then I see 12 other Taxons including "lobe-finned fish and
tetrapod clade" and "Fungi/Metazoa group" (on my server and the EBI
server). Strange because "Eukaryota" has a parent-id of 1 which should
be straight up to "root".

The common name(s) do not seem to be indexed. Can they be added?
 

-- 
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Peter Rice                | Informatics Division, The Sanger Centre,
E-mail: pmr@sanger.ac.uk  | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,
Tel: (44) 1223 494967     | Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SA, England
Fax: (44) 1223 494919     | URL: http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/pmr/

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Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
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Peter Rice wrote:

> But how do I download the EBI's views.i ?

I suppose you can not. Sorry. A link will be added into SRS web
interface in due time.

Put this into your views.i and then srssection:

Tax_View:$View:[Taxonomy
  root:$Vlib:@TAXONOMY_DB
  rootFields:{
    $VField:@DF_Navigate
    $VField:@DF_Taxon
    $VField:@DF_Rank
  }
]

	-Heikki

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Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
Date: 17 Nov 1998 13:24:01 +0000
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Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
> You also need to check the changes in view.i (+Tax_View) and srsdb.is
> (+taxupR, +taxdnR). You also need to copy the up and down icons into
> www/images directory. 

I found the changes in srsdb.is (not srsdb.i)

I found the images (red and blue arrows) in /srs5/images/up.gif and down.gif

But how do I download the EBI's views.i ?


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Peter Rice wrote:
> 
> Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
> > Thure and I had a go on the taxonomy files. Take a look at
> >
> > http://srs.ebi.ac.uk/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-fun+PageQueryForm+-l+TAXONOMY
> 
> Seems to also need changes to swissprot.i and embl.i to remove the
> alternative links to taxonomy...

Yes, the links are better placed in taxonomy.i file.

> Any other connected changes needed?

You also need to check the changes in view.i (+Tax_View) and srsdb.is
(+taxupR, +taxdnR). You also need to copy the up and down icons into
www/images directory. 

I updated the files this morning to make taxview the default view.

	-Heikki

P.S. I'll see what I can do to geneticcode database.

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Guy Bottu wrote:
> 
> : I still only get 6 codes linked. I used the taxonomy file
> : ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/databases/taxonomy/taxonomy.dat
> 
> That is because the taxonomy.i file at the EBI contains some error. To
> convince yourself of this, search in taxonomy the taxon "homo sapiens"
> and link to geneticcode, you will see that you find only "Vertebratrate
> Mitochondrial" and not "Standard". The cause of the problem is that the
> link from taxonomy to geneticcode is defined twice.
> 
>         Guy Bottu


I've corrected a number of errors. The link is now performed only once
and link keys are read from a new token table created by production
called l_gencode. Since links are created from taxonomy to geneticcode,
the taxonomy files change again. Sorry, Peter!


The previous version of gc.prt file contained the IDs 13-15 so I copied
them from there into a new file and put it into EBI FTP site:

	ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/databases/geneticcode/

I've informed NCBI about the problem.


After this the only codes that are not referenced by taxonomy database 
are:

Query "geneticcode! (taxonomy>geneticcode) " found 2 entries 

id 7	Protozoan Mitochondrial (and Kinetoplast)
id 8 	[OBSOLETE, posttranscriptional editing only] Plant
		Mitochondrial/Chloroplast


It's all yours to play with now. Have fun,

	-Heikki

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: I still only get 6 codes linked. I used the taxonomy file
: ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/databases/taxonomy/taxonomy.dat

That is because the taxonomy.i file at the EBI contains some error. To
convince yourself of this, search in taxonomy the taxon "homo sapiens"
and link to geneticcode, you will see that you find only "Vertebratrate
Mitochondrial" and not "Standard". The cause of the problem is that the
link from taxonomy to geneticcode is defined twice.

	Guy Bottu

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Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
> Thure and I had a go on the taxonomy files. Take a look at 
> 
> http://srs.ebi.ac.uk/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-fun+PageQueryForm+-l+TAXONOMY

Seems to also need changes to swissprot.i and embl.i to remove the
alternative links to taxonomy...

Any other connected changes needed?

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Subject: Re: taxonomy database ?
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Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
> Peter Rice wrote:
> > So, for example, how do I search TAXONOMY for "human" ?
> > 
> > % getz '[taxonomy-all:human]' -e
> 
> Works for me. There must still be some minor discrepancy between Sanger
> and EBI files.

taxonomy.i and taxonomy.is are identical.

Our taxonomy.dat is the one on the EBI ftp server (dated 5-Nov)

What else could be different in the way "alltext" can be defined?

Aha - srsgen.i has lots of places with "group:@DF_ALL" added.

Still not enough though - Hmmm. EBI has more keys under "taxon"
indexed on 9-Nov. Searching taxon at EBI lets me find "human" but at
Sanger it does not.

Does it still work if you srssection and reindex at EBI with the
current taxonomy icarus files?

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Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
> Peter Rice wrote:
> > The common name(s) do not seem to be indexed. Can they be added?
> 
> They are indexed but since there are 10 different fields that contain
> other than the accepted scientific name, there are no specific search
> fields for all of them. You can search them using AllText field. 

So, for example, how do I search TAXONOMY for "human" ?


% getz '[taxonomy-all:human]' -e

... returns nothing ...

Looks to me like "alltext" is not indexed. Nor does it show the common names.

% getz '[taxonomy-spc:homo sapiens]' -e
ID                        : 9606
PARENT ID                 : 9605
RANK                      : species
GC ID                     : 1
MGC ID                    : 2
SCIENTIFIC NAME           : Homo sapiens
PREFERRED COMMON NAME     : human
COMMON NAME               : man
//

% getz '[taxonomy-spc:homo sapiens]' -t
RANK                      : species
GC ID                     : 1
MGC ID                    : 2
SCIENTIFIC NAME           : Homo sapiens

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Peter Rice wrote:
> <     $field:[@DF_Taxon code:sciname index:str indexToken:'name|sciname']
> ---
> >     $field:[@DF_Taxon code:sciname index:str indexToken:name]
> 
> name is all the "name" fields. "name|sciname" is the scientific name only.
> 
> That fixes it. Time to revert one of your changes ?

You are right. One old taxonomy index has not been purged during these
frantic changes to the code.

The organization, however needs some rethinking. 

1. I removed genetic codes from name production and put them into a new
one. That allows deletion of special production for linking (l_gencode).

2. Same goes for species. l-species production can be removed if species
production contains only scientific name. Species production's main use
is to link other databases, anyway.

3. The we need one field that contains all the possible names, so that
AllText, which is what most people use anyway, can access names like
'man' and 'human'. Taxon is, really, a good production for that. Also,
the taxonomy view lists all available names.

Corresponding changes in .i file, srssection, srsbuild, srsbuild links,
and everyone is happy. At least for a while.

Hopes,
	-Heikki
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Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk> writes:
> Still not enough though - Hmmm. EBI has more keys under "taxon"
> indexed on 9-Nov. Searching taxon at EBI lets me find "human" but at
> Sanger it does not.

Something like this difference in an older version of taxonomy.i:

<     $field:[@DF_Taxon code:sciname index:str indexToken:'name|sciname']
---
>     $field:[@DF_Taxon code:sciname index:str indexToken:name]

name is all the "name" fields. "name|sciname" is the scientific name only.

That fixes it. Time to revert one of your changes ?

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The SRSWWW manual at the EBI seems to be missing the first figure.

This is file mi_srswww.html, missing "srswww.gif"

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: > When I look at the up link (red arrow) it looks fine up to "Eukaryota"
: > but then I see 12 other Taxons including "lobe-finned fish and
: > tetrapod clade" and "Fungi/Metazoa group" (on my server and the EBI
: > server). Strange because "Eukaryota" has a parent-id of 1 which should
: > be straight up to "root".

: I was afraid you'd eventually ask that.  8-). At the moment we have to
: show the entries in the order they apper in the (flat file) database and
: the (relational) database does not have an easy handle to sort them
: easily and fast other than by rank. The ones that are clustered on the
: top of the list below root all have rank: 'no rank'. We really have to
: wait for the next SRS & Icarus version to do better.

Just a suggestion : is it not better to let the red arrow move you up
just one level in the hierarchy rather then give all the higher taxa.
This would give a less confusing output.

	Guy Bottu

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I get this error when I try to link to the HSSP database 

(i.e. "getz '[swissprot-id:ppat_human] > hssp'"):

SRSICA:srsquery.i:24: error: limitexceeded, Maximum number of "links in buffer" is 450000


Has anyone got a fix?


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Subject: OMIM DnaMutType fails
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Queries on OMIM "DnaMutType" fail on our server and at EBI:

Queries on the Web server give an error.

getz gives:

getz '[omim-dnamuttype:point]'
SRSICA:icarus.i:16: error: library ID does not exist, no library with ID "0" is defined

Segmentation fault

Seems to be something strange about the was this index is defined
in omim.i - It is indexed OK (4 different values) but queries
on it always fail.

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Is it possible to use a file containing a list of Ids with getz (SRS
version 5.1)?

Olivier Poirot

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Morten Stig Andersen wrote in message <39iug6y0e5.fsf@monk.novo.dk>...
>I get this error when I try to link to the HSSP database
>
>(i.e. "getz '[swissprot-id:ppat_human] > hssp'"):
>
>SRSICA:srsquery.i:24: error: limitexceeded, Maximum number of "links in
buffer" is 450000
>


Currently there is no size limit building a link, but there is one for using
them.  You can increase
that by editing "SRSSOU:link.c". Increase the value for constant
LNKxBUFFSIZ
after that recompile getz and wgetz.

This problem has been removed for the next version where links can have any
size

regards
thure



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From: Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: List of queries with getz
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Olivier POIROT wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to use a file containing a list of Ids with getz (SRS
> version 5.1)?


Dear Olivier,

I suppose you mean lists like these:

%  more  my.list
EMBL:AB015259
EMBL:AB015260
EMBL:AB015261
EMBL:AB015262
%

getz needs its input formatted in a slightly different way. Let's
write a script, in icarus of course, that does what you want and can
be extended as needed. 

Create a file named 'list.i', put the follwing lines into it 
and give it execute permissions:
-------------------------cut----------------------------------
#!/bin/env icarus

if:($ArgN<2) {
   $Print:|Usage: list.i srs_entry_name_list [>entries]
   $Exit
}
$infile = $Arg:2

$rules={

  entry:  ~ {$In:[file:text] $Out} 
          	  ln? {$Wrt}
          ~
  printout:  ~ {$In:entry $Out}
            /([^:]+):([^\n]+)/
            {$System:["getz '[$1-id:$2]' -e" out:stdout]}
	  ~
  #other
  ln:     ~ /[^\n]*\n/ ~
}

if:$TestMode {
  $job = $JobNew:[prod:$rules fileName:$infile]
  while:$JobHasInput:$job {
    $JobTokens:[$job name:printout print:0] 
    $JobNext:$job
  }
}
-------------------------cut----------------------------------

Command

%  list.i  my.list > my.seqs

will then put those entries into a file 'my.seqs'


Have fun,

	-Heikki

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Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki@ebi.ac.uk> writes:

> Olivier POIROT wrote:
> > Is it possible to use a file containing a list of Ids with getz (SRS
> > version 5.1)?
> Dear Olivier,
> I suppose you mean lists like these:
> %  more  my.list
> EMBL:AB015259
> EMBL:AB015260
> EMBL:AB015261
> EMBL:AB015262
> %
> getz needs its input formatted in a slightly different way. Let's
> write a script, in icarus of course, that does what you want and can
> be extended as needed. 

Not really what is needed. That Icarus script just runs getz for each
sequence and writes the results to stdout.

I have asked Thure several times for the SRS 4 capability to use a list
of entries as a query. Then you can do things like:

getz '@my.list > swissprot'
getz '@my.list' -f 'id acc des'
getz '@my.list ! (embl < emblnew)'

So far no sign of this appearing, though Thure promised it was not
difficult.  I really miss this capability. The lists can be created by
getz (they are the default output) but cannot be used since SRS 4 went
away.

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SRS managers,

You might have noticed that standard httpd log analysing programs are
of no use if you want to analyse SRS usage. The relevant requests call
wgetz with a long list of options and, to make situation even worse,
session IDs are there and make almost every request unique.

The attached icarus script modifies those requests that have a
database name among wgetz options by stripping out everything else.

cetus.ebi.ac.uk - - [24/Nov/1998:12:32:48 +0000] "GET
/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-id+4ktgJ1ALlWR+-e+[EMBL-ID:'AB015367']
HTTP/1.0" 200 3140

becomes :

cetus.ebi.ac.uk - - [24/Nov/1998:12:32:48 +0000] "GET EMBL" 200 3140

This is something that any log analyser program can sort properly.

Yours,
	-Heikki
 
-- 
______ _/      _/_____________________________________________________
      _/      _/                      http://www2.ebi.ac.uk/mutations/
     _/  _/  _/  Heikki Lehvaslaiho          heikki@ebi.ac.uk
    _/_/_/_/_/  EMBL Outstation, European Bioinformatics Institute
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     _/      Phone: +44 (0)1223 494 644   FAX: +44 (0)1223 494 468
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#!/bin/env icarus
#
# logmod.i
#   Cleans SRS HTTPD log file entries of wgetz options and session ids
#   so that the use of databases can be summed up.
#
# Heikki Lehvaslaiho, EMBL-EBI
# heikki@ebi.ac.uk
#
# v.1.1  Nov 23 1998
#

if:($ArgN<2) {
   $Print:|Usage: logmod.i http_log_file [> modified_http_log_file]
   $Exit
}
$logfile = $Arg:2

$rules={

  hit:    ~ {$In:[file:text] $Out pre $Skip:0} 
          	  ln? {$Wrt}
          ~
  dbhit:  ~ {$In:hit $Out}
            /.*GET /
            #note: ignores queries for number of links between databases
            ( /[-\+](info|e|lib|l)[\+=]\\[?([^-\+ ]+)/ 
            {$Wrt:[s:$2] $name=$2} |
		   /./
		 )+
	  ~
  write:  ~ {$In:hit $Out pre $Request:dbhit }
            /(.*GET )\/srs5bin\/cgi-bin\/wgetz/ {$Print:$1} 
            /[^"]+(.*)/ {if:$name!='' $Print:"$name$1" else $Print:$Ct} |
            /.*/ {$Print:$Ct}
          ~
  #other
  ln:     ~ /[^\n]*\n/ ~
}

if:$TestMode {
  $job = $JobNew:[prod:$rules skip:" \r\n" fileName:$logfile]
  while:$JobHasInput:$job {
    $JobTokens:[$job name:write print:0] 
    $JobNext:$job
  }
}

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Nov 30 22:00:00 1998
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