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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Feb 08 22:00:00 1999
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From: "M.P. Hilbers" <mph@dl.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Cannot generate EMBL-pid index files
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:03:27 +0000
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Morten Stig Andersen wrote:
> 
> Has anyone got a solution to this:
> 
> The "PID" field of coding sequences in EMBL cannot be indexed in SRS.
> The srsupdate script can generate and compress the individual index
> files, but it dumps core when it tries to merge them. There are no
> problems in EMBLNEW, or with generation with any of the other EMBL
> indices. My SRS server runs on a SGI IRIX64, v. 6.4.
> 
> An extract from the log file is given below.
> 
> + srsbuild EMBL -f  pid -xdir SRSINX: -odir SRSINX: -s unix -nn
> ...processing EMBL
> ...processing /usr/databases/embl/est1.dat
> ...processing /usr/databases/embl/est1.dat
> 
> ...wrote index file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_1.inx"
>          size: 0 kbytes, bucket size: 1, records: 0
> ...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_1.ids"
>          size: 1 kbytes, IDs: 0
> ...processing /usr/databases/embl/est10.dat
> ...processing /usr/databases/embl/est10.dat
> 
> ...wrote index file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_2.inx"
>          size: 1 kbytes, bucket size: 2, records: 3
> 
> (... output truncated here)
> 
> ...processing /usr/databases/embl/vrt.dat
> ...processing /usr/databases/embl/vrt.dat
> 
> ...wrote index file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_31.inx"
>          size: 892 kbytes, bucket size: 40, records: 42034
> ...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_31.ids"
>          size: 421 kbytes, IDs: 42043
> ...program "srsbuild" completed successfully.
> 
> real 5h58m29.60s
> user 5h25m14.96s
> sys 17m58.02s
> + srsbuild EMBL -c -f  pid -xdir SRSINX: -odir SRSINX: -s unix
> ...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_1.ids"
>          size: 1 kbytes, IDs: 0
> ...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_2.ids"
>          size: 1 kbytes, IDs: 3
> 
> (... output truncated here)
> 
> ...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_31.ids"
>          size: 253 kbytes, IDs: 42043
> ...program "srsbuild" completed successfully.
> 
> real 0m3.54s
> user 0m1.01s
> sys 0m0.87s
> + srsbuild EMBL -m -f  pid -xdir SRSINX: -odir SRSINX: -s unix
> ./embl_pid[17]: 8624 Bus error(coredump)
> 
> real 1m0.01s
> user 0m33.25s
> sys 0m25.54s
> 
In my experience srs does not really like it if the first index in a "merge" situation is empty. Changing the order in which the different files are indexed,
(in embl.i), making sure that the first file  has pids in its entries, might do the
trick. You will also have to rebuild all the indices again when you do that.

Cheers,

Martin
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Has anyone got a solution to this:


The "PID" field of coding sequences in EMBL cannot be indexed in SRS.
The srsupdate script can generate and compress the individual index
files, but it dumps core when it tries to merge them. There are no
problems in EMBLNEW, or with generation with any of the other EMBL
indices. My SRS server runs on a SGI IRIX64, v. 6.4.

An extract from the log file is given below.


+ srsbuild EMBL -f  pid -xdir SRSINX: -odir SRSINX: -s unix -nn
...processing EMBL
...processing /usr/databases/embl/est1.dat
...processing /usr/databases/embl/est1.dat

...wrote index file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_1.inx"
         size: 0 kbytes, bucket size: 1, records: 0
...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_1.ids"
         size: 1 kbytes, IDs: 0
...processing /usr/databases/embl/est10.dat
...processing /usr/databases/embl/est10.dat

...wrote index file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_2.inx"
         size: 1 kbytes, bucket size: 2, records: 3

(... output truncated here)

...processing /usr/databases/embl/vrt.dat
...processing /usr/databases/embl/vrt.dat

...wrote index file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_31.inx"
         size: 892 kbytes, bucket size: 40, records: 42034
...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_31.ids"
         size: 421 kbytes, IDs: 42043
...program "srsbuild" completed successfully.

real 5h58m29.60s
user 5h25m14.96s
sys 17m58.02s
+ srsbuild EMBL -c -f  pid -xdir SRSINX: -odir SRSINX: -s unix
...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_1.ids"
         size: 1 kbytes, IDs: 0
...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_2.ids"
         size: 1 kbytes, IDs: 3

(... output truncated here)


...wrote IDs file "/z/monet/appl/srs51/index/embl_pid_31.ids"
         size: 253 kbytes, IDs: 42043
...program "srsbuild" completed successfully.

real 0m3.54s
user 0m1.01s
sys 0m0.87s
+ srsbuild EMBL -m -f  pid -xdir SRSINX: -odir SRSINX: -s unix
./embl_pid[17]: 8624 Bus error(coredump)

real 1m0.01s
user 0m33.25s
sys 0m25.54s


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From: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Cannot generate EMBL-pid index files
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Morten Stig Andersen <mosa@novo.dk> writes:

> Has anyone got a solution to this:
> The "PID" field of coding sequences in EMBL cannot be indexed in SRS.
> The srsupdate script can generate and compress the individual index
> files, but it dumps core when it tries to merge them. There are no
> problems in EMBLNEW, or with generation with any of the other EMBL
> indices. My SRS server runs on a SGI IRIX64, v. 6.4.
> 
> An extract from the log file is given below.
> 
> 
> + srsbuild EMBL -f  pid -xdir SRSINX: -odir SRSINX: -s unix -nn
> ...processing EMBL
> ...processing /usr/databases/embl/est1.dat
> ...processing /usr/databases/embl/est1.dat
> 

As Martin Hilbers pointed out, you must have PIDs in the first file
you index (strictly, in the first 100,000 entries). est1.dat has no
PIDs and has 100,000 entries.

There are index files at ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/unix/srs/embl
but you have some work to do to use them for EMBL flat files
(see the README file and watch for filenames in embl.i)

I used this method for the Sanger server, but I modified the indices
later (added NID indices).

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From: "K. Cuelenaere" <koenc@caos.kun.nl>
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Subject: $Seq.trunc and $Seq.app in 5.1
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Hi there,

 perhaps these are problems already solved; if so, I'm afraid
I've missed it in this newsgroup.

It's about the split files:

the trunc c function wasn't ok: I changed the commented line (by me)
and now it works fine (this must have been already solved at
the other srs servers because they seem to "trunc" ok). However
the ftp-able distribution on ftp.ebi still contains the old SeqIopTrunc
function.

SEQv SeqIopTrunc (Int4 runTime, SEQv seq, Int4 l)
{
  if (runTime)
    IargGetArgs ("seq|len", &seq, &l);
/*  SeqSubSeq (seq, 1, SeqLen (seq)); oops, always returns the entire sequence*/
  SeqSubSeq (seq, 1,  SeqLen (seq) - l);
  IcaReturn ("Seq", seq);            
  return seq;
}

And about the use of $s.app in the embl.is (and others): I don't get it.
One should first do all the $s.app and finally a $s.make.
But in embl.is the $s.make is done in the seq production, which
can be called several times for one sequence when dealing with
split sequences.... So the result is (with our embl) that only the last
sequence part is returned. The same is achieved in an icarus test file:

$s.app:"abc"
$s.make
$s.app:"def"
$s.make 
$Print:$s.str

results in: "def"

 So, ok, one should use the make just after the
last app, but how come it works right with the other srs servers, while
I can't notice a difference with our embl.is file ... was there
also a change in the SeqIopApp c function? Most other srs servers
are dealing well with split entries, but e.g. BEN doesn't.

best regards,
Koen.
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From: "M.P. Hilbers" <mph@dl.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: $Seq.trunc and $Seq.app in 5.1
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"K. Cuelenaere" wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
>  perhaps these are problems already solved; if so, I'm afraid
> I've missed it in this newsgroup.
> 
> It's about the split files:
> 
> the trunc c function wasn't ok: I changed the commented line (by me)
> and now it works fine (this must have been already solved at
> the other srs servers because they seem to "trunc" ok). However
> the ftp-able distribution on ftp.ebi still contains the old SeqIopTrunc
> function.
> 
> SEQv SeqIopTrunc (Int4 runTime, SEQv seq, Int4 l)
> {
>   if (runTime)
>     IargGetArgs ("seq|len", &seq, &l);
> /*  SeqSubSeq (seq, 1, SeqLen (seq)); oops, always returns the entire sequence*/
>   SeqSubSeq (seq, 1,  SeqLen (seq) - l);
>   IcaReturn ("Seq", seq);
>   return seq;
> }
> 
> And about the use of $s.app in the embl.is (and others): I don't get it.
> One should first do all the $s.app and finally a $s.make.
> But in embl.is the $s.make is done in the seq production, which
> can be called several times for one sequence when dealing with
> split sequences.... So the result is (with our embl) that only the last
> sequence part is returned. The same is achieved in an icarus test file:
> 
> $s.app:"abc"
> $s.make
> $s.app:"def"
> $s.make
> $Print:$s.str
> 
> results in: "def"
> 
>  So, ok, one should use the make just after the
> last app, but how come it works right with the other srs servers, while
> I can't notice a difference with our embl.is file ... was there
> also a change in the SeqIopApp c function? Most other srs servers
> are dealing well with split entries, but e.g. BEN doesn't.
> 
> best regards,
> Koen.
> --

There are probably a lot of sites who use native format, and thus
don't have this problem..

There seem to be various problems here. I found the $s.trunc crashes
without a $s.make done before it, so you need a $s.make in the "seq"
production.. But $s.app appears not to be able to append a sequence
once it has been "made", it puts it just at position 0...
So the choice is apparently to present only the last part of the sequence, 
or the corrupt the sequence by not using trunc....

As a workaround I did the following:

I "activated" the seqcat function in seq.c (created SeqIopCat):

void SeqCat (SEQv to, SEQv from)
{
  StrApp (&to->seq, from->seq);
}

SEQv SeqIopCat (Int4 runTime, SEQv to, SEQv from)
{
  if (runTime)
    IargGetArgs ("to|from", &to, &from);

  SeqCat (to,from);  
  IcaReturn ("Seq", to);
  return to;
}


Then in bi_seq.i:

in Seq methods added:

    $Com:[cat f:SeqIopCat return:object returnclass:@Seq
      rem:"Concatenate two sequences."
      args:{
    	$Var:[to this:y t:object class:@Seq]
    	$Var:[from unnamed:y t:object class:@Seq]
      }
    ]

in Sequence functions added:

     $Com:[SeqCat f:SeqIopCat return:object returnclass:@Seq
      rem:"Concatenate two sequences."
      args:{
    	$Var:[to this:y t:object class:@Seq]
    	$Var:[from  unnamed:y t:object class:@Seq]
      }
    ]
   ]


Recompile....

Now in embl.is:


  gcgseq:  ~ { $In:[file:seq] $Out
                 if:$entryName && $en!=$entryName {
                   $Print:|Entry name mismatch:  ref=($entryName), seq=$en
                   $Exit
                 }                   
               $Wrt:[s:" "]}
               '>>>>' {$seqFip=$Fip} 
               (/([A-Z0-9]+)_0/ {$en=$1 $s=$Seq:$Ct} seq
               (/>>>>[A-Z0-9]+_0?[1-9]+|>>>>[A-Z0-9]+_[1-9][0-9]+/ 
               {$s.trunc:10000} aseq )+  
               |/[A-Z0-9]+/ { $en=$Ct $s=$Seq:$Ct} seq ) ~ 


  seq:       ~ /.*2BIT *Len: */ /[0-9]+/ {$len=$Ct} ln ln 
	       {$s.get2Bit:[$JobFile len:$len]} 
               ('>>>>'{$Not} ln)* |
               /.*ASCII/ ln ln ('>>>>' {$Not} /.*/ {$s.app:$Ct})+       
                x {$s.make} 
              ~

  aseq:       ~ {pre $as=$Seq:"temp"}
               (/.*2BIT *Len: */ /[0-9]+/ {$len=$Ct} ln ln 
	       {$as.get2Bit:[$JobFile len:$len]} 
               ('>>>>'{$Not} ln)* |
               /.*ASCII/ ln ln ('>>>>' {$Not} 
               /.*/ {$as.app:$Ct})+)       
               x {$as.make $s.cat:$as} 
              ~


So the first (or only) section his handled by seq (where $s.make is also done),
for subsequent sections, $s is first truncated by 10000, and then the production 
aseq reads the new section as $as, which is "made" and then added to $s with $s.cat

Cheers,

Martin



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Christoph W. Sensen wrote:
> 
> On Feb. 3rd, the Canadian Bioinformatics Resource was officially opened.
> 
> CBR-RBC offers access to the major bioinformatics software and databases for
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From: Gyorgy Simon <simonXTHANKSNOSPAMX@tigem.it>
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Subject: Re: Cannot generate EMBL-pid index files
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Peter Rice wrote:

> As Martin Hilbers pointed out, you must have PIDs in the first file
> you index (strictly, in the first 100,000 entries). est1.dat has no
> PIDs and has 100,000 entries.

If this is the problem of the FIRST file could we solve it simply by
changing the indexing order that way, that one "surely-having-PIDs-in-it"
(e.g. org, mam, hum) should be processed first?


Thanks,

Gyorgy Simon
TIGEM



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From: Gyorgy Simon <simonXTHANKSNOSPAMX@tigem.it>
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Subject: Re: $Seq.trunc and $Seq.app in 5.1
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> "K. Cuelenaere" wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> >  perhaps these are problems already solved; if so, I'm afraid
> > I've missed it in this newsgroup.
> >
> > It's about the split files:
> >
> > the trunc c function wasn't ok: I changed the commented line (by me)
> > and now it works fine (this must have been already solved at

I am sorry for following up a bit late. Just a quick question before climbing up the
wrong tree:
Is this (related to) the problem which prevents retrieving long/split GCG sequences
from the databanks? If so, I would like to present another workaround by substituting
the SEQUENCE processing functions by STRING processing ones without modifying the
source code. You can find the code and comments in my  syntax files (e.g.: embl.is) at
http://www.tigem.it/srs5/.

N.B. It worked fine for me for several month with the GCG databases but now I am using
the native db files.

Regards,

Gyorgy Simon
TIGEM




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From: Peter Rice <pmr@sanger.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Cannot generate EMBL-pid index files
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Gyorgy Simon <simonXTHANKSNOSPAMX@tigem.it> writes:
> Peter Rice wrote:
> > As Martin Hilbers pointed out, you must have PIDs in the first file
> > you index (strictly, in the first 100,000 entries). est1.dat has no
> > PIDs and has 100,000 entries.
> 
> If this is the problem of the FIRST file could we solve it simply by
> changing the indexing order that way, that one "surely-having-PIDs-in-it"
> (e.g. org, mam, hum) should be processed first?

Hi Gyorgy,

Yes, that's exactly what you need. But it you use the EBI's indices
from their FTP server you also need the files specified in the same order
as at the EBI when the indices were built.

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Hi,

Has anyone got the patch which fixes the bug in srsbuild, where after
you touch embl you still have to rebuild some of the indices.

srsbuild -t embl
srscheck
++++++> must rebuild index "FtKey" for EMBL, is not up to date
++++++> must rebuild index "FtQualifier" for EMBL, is not up to date
++++++> must rebuild index "PID" for EMBL, is not up to date
++++++> must rebuild index "FtDescription" for EMBL, is not up to date
++++++> must rebuild index "FtLength" for EMBL, is not up to date


Thanks


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