From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 04:15:00 1999
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From: Robyn Wallace <rwallace@medicine.adelaide.edu.au>
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At a recent "Mutation Detection" course I was shown how to find all the
known mutations in a gene, using SRS.  The web page has changed since I
last looked at it and I am having trouble getting the out put I want.

First I query the databases for the gene sequence.
Then I link these results to the mutation databases.

Then I run into problems, I cannot get the output in a table format,
with a list of the DNA changes (eg C123T).  All I get are a list of
hypertext links to OMIM etc.

How can I get the display format I want?  Is there a particular "view" I
should be using?

I appreciate any help

Robyn

--


=============================================
Robyn Wallace  PhD
Department of Cytogenetics and Molecular Genetics
Women's and Children's Hospital
72 King William Street
NORTH  ADELAIDE  SA  5006
AUSTRALIA
Ph: 618 8204 6442     Fax:  618 8204 7342
Email: rwallace@medicine.adelaide.edu.au
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I want to organize a course on SRS and am looking for additional
examples and hints of things which I could include. Any ideas ?

clemens
------------------ Clemens Suter-Crazzolara, PhD  --------------------
                 German Cancer Research Center DKFZ       
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From: Tim Eyres <tim.eyres@genedata.com>
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Hi

I've noticed that srs 6 is available via the ebi at :
http://srs6.ebi.ac.uk/

My question is, is srs 6 ini the public domain or not. Is it possible to
obtain the source code for this? How can I get a copy?

Tim Eyres

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Hi,

Yes. SRS 6 is on-line at the EBI. We are still working on it (adding
databanks).
SRS5.1 is still the main production version but we expect to switch over to
SRS6 in the non to distant future.

Even though I'm not the right person to answer your questions I will reply:

SRS now belongs to Lion Bioscience A/G and is a commercial product to
non-academic users. If you are a commercial customer please contact:

Lion Bioscience Ltd.

telephone:  +44 (0) 1223 224700
fax:  +44 (0) 1223 224701
e-mail:  info@lionbio.co.uk

mail:  LION Bioscience Ltd
Sheraton House
Castle Business Park
Cambridge CB3 OAX
UK

If you are an academic user my understanding is the SRS is free but you have
to register with Lion in order to obtain the package. Please contact them at
the above address.

Please refer to the following URL for further details:

http://bioinformer.ebi.ac.uk/newsletter/archives/4/srs_announcement.html

The Lion WWW servers are at:

http://www.lionbio.co.uk/

R:) (All disclaimers apply!)





Tim Eyres <tim.eyres@genedata.com> wrote in message
news:3754D7F1.28FA4BE1@genedata.com...
> Hi
>
> I've noticed that srs 6 is available via the ebi at :
> http://srs6.ebi.ac.uk/
>
> My question is, is srs 6 ini the public domain or not. Is it possible to
> obtain the source code for this? How can I get a copy?
>
> Tim Eyres



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From: "Rodrigo Lopez" <rls@ebi.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: SRS for finding mutations
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:11:42 +0100
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Hi,

Please contact: : Heikki Lehväslaiho  at the EBI who is in charge of
the mutations databases:

http://www.ebi.ac.uk/mutations/index.html

R:)


Robyn Wallace <rwallace@medicine.adelaide.edu.au> wrote in message
news:3755A54D.E9AAF624@medicine.adelaide.edu.au...
> At a recent "Mutation Detection" course I was shown how to find all the
> known mutations in a gene, using SRS.  The web page has changed since I
> last looked at it and I am having trouble getting the out put I want.
>
> First I query the databases for the gene sequence.
> Then I link these results to the mutation databases.
>
> Then I run into problems, I cannot get the output in a table format,
> with a list of the DNA changes (eg C123T).  All I get are a list of
> hypertext links to OMIM etc.
>
> How can I get the display format I want?  Is there a particular "view" I
> should be using?
>
> I appreciate any help
>
> Robyn
>
> --
>
>
> =============================================
> Robyn Wallace  PhD
> Department of Cytogenetics and Molecular Genetics
> Women's and Children's Hospital
> 72 King William Street
> NORTH  ADELAIDE  SA  5006
> AUSTRALIA
> Ph: 618 8204 6442     Fax:  618 8204 7342
> Email: rwallace@medicine.adelaide.edu.au
> =============================================
>
>



From owner-srs@net.bio.net Thu Jun 03 14:27:00 1999
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From: "warez" <lung31@angelfire.com>
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About "some bad words from some guys in the newsgroups":

I should say that it is the normal thing in our world.
When people are doing the same thing (selling), there is
some kind of competition between them.
Also you can not be liked by everyone.
Those people who write there about unrecieved orders,
lost payments are simply lying, because I do not know
them at all.
They are not my clients.
Instead of informing me about lost orders and money,
they write to the newsgroups shouting to the whole
world about "Norman - deceiver".
Who is the biggest deceiver?
If my clients have some problems, first of all they
inform me about - so they recieve Help.

Anyway everyone have his right of choice!

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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Wed Jun 09 12:18:00 1999
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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Fri Jun 11 12:11:00 1999
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From: "Jean-Charles Lescure" <lescure@versailles.inra.fr>
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Hi,
I have a problem to install SRS5.x on Linux (Mandrake 5.3 i.e French version
of RH 5.2 + KDE 1.1 with kernel 2.036.3 and glibc 2.07.29).
srsinstall all failed with cc or gcc with the message:

cc  -I/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux  -o
/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/nodd
/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/nodd.o
/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/local.o
/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/libsrs.a -lm
/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/libsrs.a(icadebug.o): In function
`DbgIopStatement':
/mycoscope/html/srs505/src/icadebug.c:79: undefined reference to
`TermNewLineEditor'
/mycoscope/html/srs505/src/icadebug.c:89: undefined reference to
`TermLineEdit'
make: *** [/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/nodd] Error 1
srsmake: Stopping due to Error 2
srsinstall: Stopping due to Error 1

Note there was no problem with my old system RH 5.1. (but SMP and Network
problems :-( )
May be a libraries problem?
Any Idea?

Thanks
Jean-Charles.
--
=======================================================
Jean-Charles Lescure   Unité de Pathologie végétale   INRA Versailles
 Mail: lescure@versailles.inra.fr   Tel : 01.30.83.31.97
  Internet: http://www.inra.fr/Versailles/
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From: Tim Cutts <timc@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: Re: SRS5.x installation
Date: 11 Jun 1999 14:41:43 +0100 (BST)
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In article <7jr0fb$bec$1@saphir.jouy.inra.fr>,
Jean-Charles Lescure <lescure@versailles.inra.fr> wrote:
>Hi,
>I have a problem to install SRS5.x on Linux (Mandrake 5.3 i.e French version
>of RH 5.2 + KDE 1.1 with kernel 2.036.3 and glibc 2.07.29).
>srsinstall all failed with cc or gcc with the message:
>
>cc  -I/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux  -o
>/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/nodd
>/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/nodd.o
>/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/local.o
>/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/libsrs.a -lm
>/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/libsrs.a(icadebug.o): In function
>`DbgIopStatement':
>/mycoscope/html/srs505/src/icadebug.c:79: undefined reference to
>`TermNewLineEditor'
>/mycoscope/html/srs505/src/icadebug.c:89: undefined reference to
>`TermLineEdit'
>make: *** [/mycoscope/html/srs505/bin/linux/nodd] Error 1
>srsmake: Stopping due to Error 2
>srsinstall: Stopping due to Error 1
>
>Note there was no problem with my old system RH 5.1. (but SMP and Network
>problems :-( )
>May be a libraries problem?
>Any Idea?

1)  Upgrade to SRS 5.1.  It won't fix this problem, but you might as
well do it anyway.

2)  The problem is in a #include statement somewhere (I can't remember
where).  I think you need to change a #include <termio.h> to #include
<termios.h> or vice versa  The change needs to be made either in
icadebug.c itself, or in one of the include files it uses.

Tim.




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From owner-srs@net.bio.net Sat Jun 19 08:00:00 1999
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From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
------------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
--------------------------------------------------------------------
computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
-------------------------------------------------

To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.


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Hi,

I am having trouble with my SRS 5.1 server.
When I tried to go to the link page, to link an entry to other
databases, I do get the page showing me all the databases that I can
link to, but when I choose any of the databases I invariably get :

-->

500 Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, support@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk and
inform them of the time the error occurred , and anything you might have
done that may have caused the error.

Error: HTTPd: malformed header from script
/packages/srs5/srs/www/bin/wgetz

--------------------------------------------------------------

Anyone now why this happens ? It seems to be a header problem but can't
figure out where it goes wrong....

Thanks, Thon de Boer
HGMP


From owner-srs@net.bio.net Mon Jun 28 01:27:00 1999
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From: DrCursor <drcursor@leirianet.pt>
Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs
Subject: New Site about East Timor
Date: 28 Jun 1999 03:17:42 GMT
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  Visite http://drcursor.cjb.net , 
a nova pagina sobre Timor, 25 de Abril e
politica nacional em geral.
  Nesta pagina podera livremente deixar textos
, e/ou imagens que deseje ver on-line.

  See http://drcursor.cjb.net , 
a new page about East-Timor, and politics...
  You can publish your own texts or images 
in this site.

drcursor@leirianet.pt

From owner-srs@net.bio.net Tue Jun 29 20:00:00 1999
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