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With the default (PIR) format there are two headers - one for the reference data and one for the sequence, so this is not acceptable PIR format. http://www.sanger.ac.uk/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-e+[PIR-ID:'S10602'] With GCG format some entries are fine, but others (e.g. S10602) have ".." hiding in the reference part and SRS does not expand it. http://www.sanger.ac.uk/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-e+[PIR-ID:'S10602']+-sf+gcg I am trying to find a format that allows EMBOSS to read PIR entries from an SRSWWW server. With "-f seq - sf " there is an extra header, but I suppose "-f seq -sf gcg" will make the sequence readable (GCG format wil ignore the header, while SRS is no longer writing the ".." line) while losing most other information. Hardly ideal. http://www.sanger.ac.uk/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?[PIR-ID:'S10602']+-f+seq+-sf+gcg -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Rice | Informatics Division, The Sanger Centre, E-mail: pmr@sanger.ac.uk | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Tel: (44) 1223 494967 | Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SA, England Fax: (44) 1223 494919 | URL: http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/pmr/ From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Thu Nov 4 17:35:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id D1C3017A56; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:35:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16123 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:35:13 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id RAA23712 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:35:12 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Re: PIR entries give bad sequence formats Date: 4 Nov 1999 17:27:04 GMT Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington Lines: 9 Message-ID: <7vsfl8$jvu$1@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu> References: To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It depends on which PIR format - I have written an SRS parser for PIR's CODATA format (common in US), but I would guess you need one for the NBRF format (common in Europe). (see http://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/srs/ for former). - Don -- -- d.gilbert--bioinformatics--indiana-u--bloomington-in-47405 -- gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Thu Nov 4 19:06:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 9B7D817B7C; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:06:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21787 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:06:13 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id TAA24819 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:06:12 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: Peter Rice X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Re: PIR entries give bad sequence formats Date: 04 Nov 1999 19:06:10 +0000 Organization: The Sanger Centre Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <7vsfl8$jvu$1@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu> X-Trace: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk 941742371 24802 193.62.207.78 (4 Nov 1999 19:06:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) writes: > It depends on which PIR format - I have written an SRS > parser for PIR's CODATA format (common in US), but I would > guess you need one for the NBRF format (common in Europe). > (see http://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/srs/ for former). 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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:38:10 -0700 To: David Bruner From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Thu Nov 18 09:43:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 1037417B31; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:43:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15555 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:43:52 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id JAA18863 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:43:50 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: 64bit Solaris compile of SRS v5.10? Date: 18 Nov 1999 05:48:33 GMT Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington Lines: 20 Message-ID: <8103vh$1ui$1@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu> To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk When I try building SRS 5.10 on a 64 bit Solaris system using Sun's 64bit compiler (cc -xarch=v9), I get binaries that fail with bus errors. The system is newly installed Solaris 2.7 Ultrasparc, and the compiler is newly installed (Sun WorkShop 98/12/15 C 5.0, with all patches). I have tested other software, gzip, in a 64bit compile -- it works. Has anyone built SRS okay with this configuration (is it my system or an incompatibility of SRS to 64 bit systems)? -- one reason for a 64bit SRS is the Genbank daily update file has grown over 2 GB and 32bit SRS won't open it :( Thanks, Don -- -- d.gilbert--bioinformatics--indiana-u--bloomington-in-47405 -- gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Thu Nov 18 15:27:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 5138A17B00; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:27:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10781 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:27:11 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id PAA23240 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:27:10 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: Tim Cutts X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Re: 64bit Solaris compile of SRS v5.10? Date: 18 Nov 1999 15:22:35 +0000 (GMT) Organization: Linux Unlimited Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <8103vh$1ui$1@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu> X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test70 (17 January 1999) Originator: timc@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In article <8103vh$1ui$1@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu>, Don Gilbert wrote: >When I try building SRS 5.10 on a 64 bit Solaris system using >Sun's 64bit compiler (cc -xarch=v9), I get binaries that fail with >bus errors. > >The system is newly installed Solaris 2.7 Ultrasparc, and the compiler >is newly installed (Sun WorkShop 98/12/15 C 5.0, with all patches). >I have tested other software, gzip, in a 64bit compile -- it works. > >Has anyone built SRS okay with this configuration (is it my system >or an incompatibility of SRS to 64 bit systems)? > >-- one reason for a 64bit SRS is the Genbank daily update file has >grown over 2 GB and 32bit SRS won't open it :( SRS 5.x uses the Int4 type (i.e 32-bit integers) all over the place. I'm not at all surprised it doesn't compile as a 64-bit program; on 32-bit systems any assumptions that certain system types are 32-bits (off_t in filesystem access routines, for example) are the same as int and the same as Int4 are fine, but on 64-bit systems this is liable to lead to segmentation faults and bus errors. SRS 6.x might compile 64-bit, but then again it might not - I haven't seen it. My solution to your problem is to split the cumulative update file into chunks. You then generate an appropriate genbank.i file on the fly, for the right number of chunks, run srssection, and then re-build your indices. This works fine. I can send you my scripts for doing this, if you are interested. Tim. From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 10:09:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 7812917A82; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:09:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07810 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:09:27 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id KAA15359 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:09:26 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: biohelp@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (BIOSCI Administrator) X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser Date: 19 Nov 1999 02:00:12 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 239 Distribution: world Message-ID: <199911191000.CAA23140@net.bio.net> To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk (LAST REVISION: 14-AUG-99) This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up the *most frequently*. The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/. If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet information searches or answer scientific questions. Please post those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. Contents: -------- 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! ------------------------------ BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our Web site at http://www.bio.net/. We need just a few minutes of your time to help us serve you. You can do two important things which will take very little time for you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you. First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the archives. You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as described in item #1 below. Your usage helps attract sponsors. 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One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured properly to send e-mail. Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS index. The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address database described in another item further below. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. ------------------------------------------------------- BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups), mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/. The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net). Unfortunately it is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of newsgroups and mailing lists. These attempts to grab free advertising are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net terminology. USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the mailing lists. However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses and hit these too, so neither medium is immune. What should you do personally if you get junk mail? --------------------------------------------------- Just delete it and move on without reading it further. Filing a protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from. Unless you really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing. What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups? ---------------------------------------------------- The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup. If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape. Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists completely. Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the time to review each message before it goes out. We have set up software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed. This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass it on, say about 1 min. per message. Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible for their newsgroup. The discussions leaders and their e-mail addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. 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Unfortunately there are easy ways for determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET, but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if the newsgroup is moderated. You can also access our newsgroups over the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net. While this Web interface will not stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of your personal mail files. For those of you with local USENET news systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new newsgroups and recent postings. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. ------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the newsgroups and mailing lists. People who do this only bother everyone on the lists to no avail. Please be sure to follow the proper procedures below. Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at http://www.bio.net. Below we give an example utilizing the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites: Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI ------------------------------------------------------------------ node at computer net.bio.net: ---------------------------- A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for the group. These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet. For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is methods@net.bio.net. The listname is the portion of the address to the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods". The listname is used with the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below. B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to biosci-server@net.bio.net. Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup posting addresses! 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C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g., subscribe methods unsubscribe methods end Please ask for help at biosci@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk if your address has changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells you that you are not a member. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. ----------------------------------------------------------- Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have not already done so. You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL http://www.bio.net/adrform.html. The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is http://www.bio.net/). If you are not directly on the Internet but can reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user directory. waismail use is described above. You can also request a user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net. Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your address information is still up-to-date. Because of our limited personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have resources to edit old forms. 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Sam From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Thu Nov 25 16:07:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id C5A9317A5A; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:07:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16859 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:07:09 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id QAA25605 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:07:08 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: Tim Cutts X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Problems with subentries Date: 25 Nov 1999 16:05:47 +0000 (GMT) Organization: Linux Unlimited Lines: 34 Message-ID: X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test70 (17 January 1999) Originator: timc@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi SRS world: I'm trying to write a parser for SRS 5.1 for a databank which has two distinct types of subentry. Ideally I would like to keep these separate as two subentry databases. According to the documentation for thes $library class, I can have up to 10 subentry databases - I just have a list in the subentries attribute: subentries:{@MyFeatures_DB @MyOther_DB} But this doesn't work! Whichever one I put first works, and the second one is ignored. Could this be because in the $libformat definition for each of these I have the same idType: idType:@Feature_Id @Feature_Id is defined in srsgen.i as: Feature_Id:$IdType:[Feature size:6 subNBeg:0 subNLen:2 fipBeg:2 fipLen:3 libIdBeg:5 libIdLen:1 ] I tried changing one of the idType: attributes to @SUBENTRY_ID, but that doesn't seem to have fixed things. Anyone got any ideas? Thanks in advance... Tim. From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Thu Nov 25 17:44:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 21ADE17A5A; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:44:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25674 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:44:01 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id RAA26782 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:44:00 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: Peter Rice X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Re: Problems with subentries Date: 25 Nov 1999 17:44:34 +0000 Organization: The Sanger Centre Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk 943551840 26660 193.60.84.160 (25 Nov 1999 17:44:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tim Cutts writes: > I'm trying to write a parser for SRS 5.1 for a databank which has two > distinct types of subentry. 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From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Fri Nov 26 14:57:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 1ED2A17A69; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00921 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:57:07 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id OAA20425 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:57:06 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: Tim Cutts X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Re: Problems with subentries Date: 26 Nov 1999 14:55:13 +0000 (GMT) Organization: Linux Unlimited Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test70 (17 January 1999) Originator: timc@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In article , Peter Rice wrote: >Tim Cutts writes: > >> I'm trying to write a parser for SRS 5.1 for a databank which has two >> distinct types of subentry. Ideally I would like to keep these separate >> as two subentry databases. >> >> But this doesn't work! >> >> Whichever one I put first works, and the second one is ignored. > >I seem to recall this is one of those things that refused to work in >SRS 5.1 but could be done in 6.0, for example (srs6 swissprot.i) : > I have now fixed SRS 5.1 so it *does* work. It's a relatively simple set of patches to $SRSSOU/library.c. The alternative query form still doesn't work quite right, but I'm working on that, and will submit the complete set of patches to this newsgroup when I'm done. wgetz is quite a lot harder to debug, because it's a CGI program. I'm having to write a test C program which incorporates some of wgetz' functionality to test with... Was the @file.list thing supposed to work in 5.1, or was it a feature that never got put in at all? If it's one that's supposed to be there, I'll make that my next SRS debugging project! Tim. From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Fri Nov 26 19:39:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 3366217A92; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:39:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16113 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:39:25 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id TAA24035 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:39:25 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: Peter Rice X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Re: Problems with subentries Date: 26 Nov 1999 19:39:58 +0000 Organization: The Sanger Centre Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk 943645164 24032 193.60.84.160 (26 Nov 1999 19:39:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tim Cutts writes: > Was the @file.list thing supposed to work in 5.1, or was it a feature > that never got put in at all? If it's one that's supposed to be there, > I'll make that my next SRS debugging project! It was supposed to be 'easy to do' but never happened. So, maybe you can make it work. I think I'll stick with 6.0 assuming I can get all the icarus files converted. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Rice | Informatics Division, The Sanger Centre, E-mail: pmr@sanger.ac.uk | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Tel: (44) 1223 494967 | Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SA, England Fax: (44) 1223 494919 | URL: http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/pmr/ From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sat Nov 27 03:05:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 2081E17AF9; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:05:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04659; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:05:35 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id DAA07591; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:05:34 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: "Yog" X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs,bionet.software.staden,tw.bbs.alumni.hsinchuang,tw.bbs.alumni.hsntnu,tw.bbs.alumni.hwachyau,tw.bbs.alumni.ilanhs,tw.bbs.sci.biology,tw.bbs.sci.chemical,tw.bbs.sci.chemistry,tw.bbs.sci.design,tw.bbs.sci.destiny-prediction,tw. 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It's a relatively simple >set of patches to $SRSSOU/library.c. The alternative query form still >doesn't work quite right, but I'm working on that, and will submit the >complete set of patches to this newsgroup when I'm done. wgetz is quite >a lot harder to debug, because it's a CGI program. I'm having to write >a test C program which incorporates some of wgetz' functionality to test >with... Hmm. Looks like my initial optimism was somewhat misplace. I got as far as convincing SRS to build indices for the second type of subentry, and to display the details with getz -info, but fetching the results of the query was extremely hard; I found a number of bits of code which assumed there was only one subentry database. Take for example, LibGetSubEntryName, which has the code: subLib = LibIs (lib, "subentries") ? lib : LibGetSubEntryLib (lib, 0); and LibGetSubEntryLib itself, which despite taking a parameter for the subEntry number, ignores it: SLBo *LibGetSubEntryLib (SLBo *lib, Int4 subEntryN) { return lib->subEntries[0]; } Making the obvious changes here causes getz to crash in a major way, and I got this down to IdSplit() filling in the wrong number (or at least, not what I expected) in the subentry_n field. This pointed to detailed involvement in the structure of the indexes and $IdType objects. At this point I conceded defeat due to the lack of documentation and source code comments. Tim. From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 18:15:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id DEB4C17A60; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:15:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07942 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:15:23 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id SAA10575 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:15:21 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: Thomas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4fer?= X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Problems with number of results: SRS-EBI compared to SRS-DDBJ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:16:19 +0100 Organization: Universitaet Bremen, Germany Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3842C2F3.E71CD0C2@informatik.uni-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear colleagues, I started two queries, the first using SRS at EBI, the second using SRS at DDBJ. The query string was "Hepatitis c virus", and I tried it with the "ALL"-fields option as well as with "ORGANISM" as the only field to be searched. EBI-SRS found 6513 entries (11/29/99), and DDBJ-SRS found 7084 (same date). Looking at the Taxonomy Browser (NCBI) the query for "hcv" (which is given as an example query, also) results in 7084 entries as the DDBJ-SRS. Why doesn't EBI-SRS find the same number of entries? I thought that EMBL, DDBJ and GenBank where (almost) the same. Thank you very much for help, Thomas Schaefer, University of Bremen From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 20:47:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id CAA0817A59; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:47:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14643 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:47:20 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id UAA12443 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:47:19 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Re: Problems with number of results: SRS-EBI compared to SRS-DDBJ Date: 29 Nov 1999 20:45:58 GMT Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington Lines: 25 Message-ID: <81uom6$ct8$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu> References: <3842C2F3.E71CD0C2@informatik.uni-bremen.de> To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here for comparison are SRS-GenBank results for your query: At http://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz q1: Query "[genbank-Organism: Hepatitis c virus*] " found 7080 entries q2: Query "[genbank-Organism: /^Hepatitis.+c.+virus*/] " found 7089 entries Result of "q2 but not q1" is set of 'Hepatitis GB virus C-like virus' entries q3: Query "[libs={genbank genbanknew}-Organism: Hepatitis c virus*] " found 7348 entries At http://www.cbr.nrc.ca:80/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz Query "[genbank-Organism: Hepatitis c virus*] " found 7080 entries At http://www.infobiogen.fr:80/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz Query "[genbank-Organism: Hepatitis c virus*] " found 7080 entries | EBI-SRS found 6513 entries (11/29/99), and DDBJ-SRS found 7084 (same | date). Looking at the Taxonomy Browser (NCBI) the query for "hcv" | (which is given as an example query, also) results in 7084 entries | as the DDBJ-SRS. -- Don -- -- d.gilbert--bioinformatics--indiana-u--bloomington-in-47405 -- gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 21:27:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id C867717A59; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:27:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA16401 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:27:48 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id VAA21156 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:27:47 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: Thomas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4fer?= X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Re: Problems with number of results: SRS-EBI compared to SRS-DDBJ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:33:35 +0100 Organization: Universitaet Bremen, Germany Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3842F12F.317303A7@informatik.uni-bremen.de> References: <3842C2F3.E71CD0C2@informatik.uni-bremen.de> <81uom6$ct8$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thank you for your answer. I tried the SRS at CBR and, like you, I got 7080 entries when specifying GenBank as source. But when I specified EMBL I found 6513 entries - and this is what I wanted to know: Why doesn't SRS for libs = embl find all entries? The combination of embl and embl-new leads to 7195 entries (Query "[libs={embl emblnew}-Organism: Hepatitis C virus*] " found 7195 entries). Some of these are wrong as for instance AccNr AJ011624 (Arabidopsis thaliana). The same happens with all SRS-systems which allow embl as library. I have to give a report about the databases Embl, DDBJ and GenBank; especially I have to compare the retrieval systems (such as Entrez and SRS) and while doing this I was surprised at the different number of entries I got as result for "hepatitis c virus" when specifying embl or Genbank/DDBJ. Once again thank you - I will go on and perhaps I will find out. Thomas Schaefer From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 23:45:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id D5C1817AB4; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:45:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28105 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:45:31 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id XAA23058 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:45:30 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Re: Problems with number of results: SRS-EBI compared to SRS-DDBJ Date: 29 Nov 1999 23:23:38 GMT Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington Lines: 10 Message-ID: <81v1tq$dv1$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu> References: <3842C2F3.E71CD0C2@informatik.uni-bremen.de> <81uom6$ct8$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu> <3842F12F.317303A7@informatik.uni-bremen.de> To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thomas, My only guess is that for some reason EMBL databank is lacking those ~ 500 Hepatitus c virus entries, which Genbank and DDBJ versions contain, or perhaps the organism was named differently or left out in embl's records (use a similarity search of missing entries on embl and see if they show up)? - Don -- -- d.gilbert--bioinformatics--indiana-u--bloomington-in-47405 -- gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Tue Nov 30 18:55:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id F05BE17A5B; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:55:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02980 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:55:18 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id SAA08026 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:55:16 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: Bio-Mirrors for SRS data sets Date: 30 Nov 1999 18:51:48 GMT Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington Lines: 81 Message-ID: <8216c4$29s$1@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu> To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear SRS folks, To keep biosequence and related data sets updated for the Bio-Mirror project I work with, I've written a set of automating Perl packages. These are tailored to my local uses, but may be adapted to other servers using these data. See this url for available Bio-Mirror databanks http://www.bio-mirror.net/biomirror/docs/about-databanks.html See here for the software which automates databank updating (including srs indexing when done locally). http://www.bio-mirror.net/biomirror/software/biomirror/ This software is still under development, but it seems to be working out. Tim Littlejohn suggested we add SRS indices to the Bio-Mirror set, to allow folks to copy them rather than run SRS build jobs locally. That sounds like it could be useful. Does anyone have comments? Those of you who push around gigabytes of bioinformatic data on the Internet are welcome to make use of Bio-Mirror archives of these, and to join this group in providing other points of public access to this data. =========== Bio-Mirrors are a world bioinformatic public service for high-speed access to up-to-date DNA & protein biological sequence databanks. These databanks have been being growing so rapidly that distribution is hampered by existing Internet speeds. The Bio-Mirror project provides high-speed access, with nighly updates, to these large data sets, some exceeding 10 Gigabytes. Project sites are connected with Internet2 infrastructure of vBNS, Abilene, TransPAC, and the Asia-Pacific Advanced Network (APAN). To learn more, see http://www.bio-mirror.net/ Bio-Mirror USA at IUBio, Databank status 15 Gigabytes (compressed) Tuesday, 30 November 1999 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Section Size(Mb) Updated Databank source --------------- -------- -------- ---------------- blast 2159 29-Nov-1999 Blast DB from NCBI blocks/data-blocks 5 25-Nov-1999 BLOCKS from NCBI blocks/data-prints 8 25-Nov-1999 PRINTS from NCBI ddbj/daily_updates 1150 28-Nov-1999 DDBJ daily from AFFRC/bio-mirror ddbj/regular_release 3434 03-Nov-1999 DDBJ from AFFRC/bio-mirror embl/new 728 29-Nov-1999 EMBL daily from EBI embl/release 2100 16-Sep-1999 EMBL from EBI enzyme 2 23-Jul-1999 Enzyme from ExPASy genbank 4557 29-Nov-1999 GenBank from NCBI genbank/daily-nc 1017 29-Nov-1999 GenBank daily nc updates from NCBI interpro 8 12-Nov-1999 InterPro Protein databank from EBI meowgenes/arabidopsis 1 20-Oct-1999 Arabidopsis locus data from TAIR meowgenes/celegans 122 29-Nov-1999 C. elegans AceDB data from NCBI meowgenes/fish 1 18-Jun-1999 Zebrafish Genome data from ZFIN meowgenes/fly 51 24-Nov-1999 Drosophila Genes from FlyBase meowgenes/human 2 22-Nov-1999 LocusLink data from NCBI meowgenes/mouse 2 29-Nov-1999 Mouse Genome data from MGD pfam 148 18-Nov-1999 Pfam from WUSTL pir 94 07-Oct-1999 PIR from NCBI prosite 3 19-Aug-1999 Prosite from ExPASy rebase 1 19-Oct-2000 Rebase from neb.com srs-databanks 3 27-Nov-1999 SRS databank info from EBI swissprot 81 20-Nov-1999 SwissProt main data from ExPASy swissprot/updates 2 20-Nov-1999 SwissProt new data from ExPASy taxonomy/ebi 3 28-Nov-1999 Taxonomy data from EBI taxonomy/ncbi 2 30-Nov-1999 Taxonomy data from NCBI trembl 129 20-Nov-1999 TrEMBL from ExPASy unigene 403 29-Nov-1999 Unigene from NCBI -- -- d.gilbert--bioinformatics--indiana-u--bloomington-in-47405 -- gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu From owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Tue Nov 30 23:55:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bio-srs-archive@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 38BF217AB1; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:55:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20827 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:55:29 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id XAA20062 for bio-srs-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:55:28 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: loosehg@usa.net X-Newsgroups: bionet.software.srs Subject: 1234567890 TEST DONT OPEN 5464 Lines: 3 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:49:39 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.bc.home.com 944005779 24.113.17.181 (Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:49:39 PST) Organization: @Home Network Canada To: bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-bio-srs@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk test only fguvrhqyrltvkhnztb