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Could someone please tell me how to go about finding and comparing the
sequences of homologous genes from different organisms, in the sequence
databases?

What I would like to do is to find published sequences of gene X from
different organisms, line them up, and identify conserved regions.

Specifically, I am interested in the internal transcribed spacer region of
ribosomal DNA - a lot of work has been done on this region, from lots of
different organisms, so perhaps there is a recent published article which
compares the sequences found from very different taxa.  If anyone
knows of such (or, better still, has written it!), could they tell me
about it, please?

Please E-mail replies to me.

	Thanks,  Adam Marchant.
	marchaa@agric.nsw.gov.au




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One of the problems isn't so much what we *do* with biotechnology, as how 
what we do is generally perceived.  We as scientists think "Oh, what a 
clever idea, putting an arctic fish gene into strawberries".  
Non-scientists, with whatever level of education, often seem to think 
this is just monstrous.  The issue might not really be whether what we 
are doing is ethical, or whether the ethics are unique to biotech, but 
rather that the level of tinkering we can achieve is vaguely felt to be 
just plain unnatural.  The ethical problems might really be PR problems, 
and no less real for that.  

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In article <MjA0jS200WBMA7T1sy@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Howard M. Bomze <hb10+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>   Steve Bonne has been saying that there are no new ethical
>considerations for agricultural biotechnologies.  However, he has been
>missing one very important one, that is the possibility of an engineered
>gene to be transfered to a different species.  The transgenic plant not
>only has the sequences of the desired gene, it also contains the
>sequences which are necesary to insert the gene into the genome.  So a
>question which must be looked at is this:  If a gene for herbicide
>resistance has been put into a corn plant so that that herbicide can be
>used to kill all of the crab grass in the corn field, what happens if
>the gene is transfered to the crab grass?  

Is there an _ethical_ problem here?  I guess I can parse this as
meaning, "if we failed to be concerned about this possibility and
released the engineered corn without satisfying ourselves that it
won't happen, we would be behaving unethically".  Certainly I agree.

Since comparable transfers of desired traits have been performed by
selective breeding since the Neolithic (not to mention that horizontal
gene transfers occur all the time in nature), I still don't see the
_qualitatively_ new ethical considerations that you seem to think
exist here.  (Introducing rabbits into Australia is a good
pre-biotechnology example of failing to anticipate massive undesired
consequences of an environmental manipulation.) Don't get me wrong- we
clearly need to start thinking a lot more seriously about the
potential undesired impacts of _all_ new technologies.  I just think
that to single out biotechnology as some kind of special case borders
on superstition.


-- 
Steve LaBonne *********************** (labonnes@csc.albany.edu)
"It can never be satisfied, the mind, never." - Wallace Stevens

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In article <3gr5on$amt@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
Heidi N LeBlanc <leblanc@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote:
>One of the problems isn't so much what we *do* with biotechnology, as how 
>what we do is generally perceived.  We as scientists think "Oh, what a 
>clever idea, putting an arctic fish gene into strawberries".  
>Non-scientists, with whatever level of education, often seem to think 
>this is just monstrous.  The issue might not really be whether what we 
>are doing is ethical, or whether the ethics are unique to biotech, but 
>rather that the level of tinkering we can achieve is vaguely felt to be 
>just plain unnatural.  The ethical problems might really be PR problems, 
>and no less real for that.  

I quite agree, and my fear is that we needlessly _exacerbate_ these PR
problems if we single out biotechnology for the kind of special treatment
exemplified by the proposed course that started this discussion.  Then
naturally laypeople conclude, "Gee, even the scientists think this stuff
is especially problematical, so we _certainly_ should be worried".

-- 
Steve LaBonne *********************** (labonnes@csc.albany.edu)
"It can never be satisfied, the mind, never." - Wallace Stevens

From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Thu Feb 02 22:00:00 1995
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In Article <Pine.3.07.9502021523.B9932-a100000@wagsun>,
marchaa@agric.nsw.gov.au (A.Marchant) wrote:
>Could someone please tell me how to go about finding and comparing the
>sequences of homologous genes from different organisms, in the sequence
>databases?
>
>What I would like to do is to find published sequences of gene X from
>different organisms, line them up, and identify conserved regions.
>
>Specifically, I am interested in the internal transcribed spacer region of
>ribosomal DNA - a lot of work has been done on this region, from lots of
>different organisms, so perhaps there is a recent published article which
>compares the sequences found from very different taxa.  If anyone
>knows of such (or, better still, has written it!), could they tell me
>about it, please?
>
>Please E-mail replies to me.
>
>        Thanks,  Adam Marchant.
>        marchaa@agric.nsw.gov.au

You need to get the help files for the BLAST and Retreive servers at NCBI.
You may also find NEntrez useful. This information is available via
anonymous FTP. FTP to ncbi.nlm.nih.gov and login as anonymous, using your
email address as a password. Browse through the directories for BLAST and
download the help file. Do the same for Retreive and Entrez (Network). If
you need more help, email me.
    Tracy

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.950130115343.5258D-100000@rocky>,
Phandaal  <ez006804@peseta.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>I've been asked to give a lecture to upper-division college students on
>the controversies and ethical considerations in producing transgenic
>organisms, especially transgenic plants.  It's been a while since I gave
>this lecture, and so I was wondering if anybody had any good examples of
>controversies or ethical considerations that I could incorporate into the 
>talk.
>
>Two I can think of off-hand are:
>
>1) introducing insecticidal proteins (such as the Bacillus thuringiensis
>protein) into plants may create resistant insect populations (under the
>force of heavy selection pressure), which could then overrun the resistant
>plants and make worthless the efforts by conventional growers who *use* Bt
>protein as a topical pesticidal spray. 
>
>2) altering fatty acid metabolism in oil-crops (like canola) so that they 
>produce oils found chiefly in palm and coconut could severely damage the 
>palm oil and coconut oil industries in Third World countries... thus 
>severely depressing the economies of these already struggling countries.

My problem with these examples is that I see nothing about them that
is unique to transgenic technology.  Similar sorts of problems are
raised all the time by "conventional" technologies, including very
ancient ones like selective breeding.  An analogue to 1 is simply
overuse of pesticides (or antibiotics for that matter), which can
render them worthless in the way you describe.  And 2 in no way
raises ethical issues different from, say, starting a palm oil
industry in Key West, possibly after selective breeding of oil
palms to produce strains that give high yields there.

Indeed, I doubt that there _are_ any ethical issues which depend
_specifically_ on agricultural use of biotechnology as opposed
to agricultural technologies in general.  

-- 
Steve LaBonne *********************** (labonnes@csc.albany.edu)
"It can never be satisfied, the mind, never." - Wallace Stevens

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Howard M. Bomze (hb10+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
:    Steve Bonne has been saying that there are no new ethical
: considerations for agricultural biotechnologies.  However, he has been
: missing one very important one, that is the possibility of an engineered
: gene to be transfered to a different species.  The transgenic plant not
: only has the sequences of the desired gene, it also contains the
: sequences which are necesary to insert the gene into the genome.

This is one of those "ethical" problems that are really biological
problems in disguise.  Injecting new genes into the genomes of other
organisms is precisely what retroviruses such as HIV have been doing
for eons longer than biologists.  To consider genetic engineering
per se to be unethical is the same as considering crossbreeding
unethical.
	The ethical considerations come into play when the new
variety, however it was created, is being considered for introduction
into the ecosystem.  Introducing the gypsy moth into North America
as a silk producer was far more disastrous than any frost-free
tomato is likely to be.

	- George McKee
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.950130115343.5258D-100000@rocky>, Phandaal <ez006804@peseta.ucdavis.edu> says:
>
>I've been asked to give a lecture to upper-division college students on
>the controversies and ethical considerations in producing transgenic
>organisms, especially transgenic plants. 
>Peter Schuerman
>plschuerman@ucdavis.edu

How about lecturing on the benefits of creating transgenic tobacco plants that
produce anticancer, anti-AIDS or other beneficial drugs instead of being used
to make cigarettes and other smoking-related products?

SWM
mamber@synapse.bms.com

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From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Wed Feb 08 22:00:00 1995
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.bio-matrix
Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!liv!lucs!rcp
From: rcp@csc.liv.ac.uk (Ray Paton)
Subject: Information Processing in Cells and Tissues
Sender: news@csc.liv.ac.uk (News Eater)
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Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University


                        SECOND CALL FOR PAPERS


INTERNATIONAL WORKSHOP ON INFORMATION PROCESSING IN CELLS AND TISSUES
                         
                Liverpool 6th - 8th September 1995


The purpose of this workshop is to bring together a multidisciplinary group 
of scientists working in the general area of modelling cells and tissues. 
A central theme will be the nature of biological information  
and the ways it is processed in cells and tissues. We hope that 
the workshop will draw together researchers from a range of disciplines
including: Computer Science, Cell Biology, Mathematics,
Physiology, Biophysics, Experimental Medicine,
Biochemistry, Electronic Engineering and Biotechnology.

The workshop is intended to provide a forum to report research, discuss 
emerging topics and gain new insights into information processing 
in biological and computational systems.

Subjects areas are likely to include but not be restricted to:

* Cellular information processing systems
* Enzyme networks, Gene networks, Metabolic channeling
* Second messenger systems
* Signal Transduction and Cellular Pattern Recognition 
* Automata models 
* Parallel Distributed Processing models 
* Cellular Automata models 
* Single Neuron Computation  
* Biomolecular computing
* Inter-cellular communication, Multi-cellularity
* Information Processing in Developmental Systems 
* Information Processing in Immune networks
* Endocrine-immune-nervous interactions
* Information processing in neural tissue systems
* Information processing in non-neural tissue systems
* Communication and gap-junctions
* Asynchronous processing, MIMD, SIMD and NIMD systems
* Cell and tissues oscillators
* Fractals and Chaos 
* Emergent phenomena and self-organisation


Programme Committee
 
Georg Brabant Endocrinology (Hanover)
Michael Conrad Computer Science (Detroit)
Roy Cuthbertson Cell Biology (Liverpool)
Claus Emmeche Philosophy of Nature and Science Studies (Copenhagen)
Mike Holcombe Computer Science (Sheffield)  
George Kampis Ethology and Philosophy of Science (Budapest)
Hans-Paul Schwefel Computer Science (Dortmund)
Idan Segev Neurobiology (Jerusalem)
Gordon Shepherd Neurobiology (Yale)
W Richard Stark Mathematics (Tampa)  
Rene Thomas Molecular Biology (Brussels) 
Chris Tofts Computer Science (Manchester)
John Tucker Computer Science (Swansea)
G Rickey Welch Biological Sciences (New Orleans)
Gershom Zajicek Experimental Medicine and Cancer Research (Jerusalem)


Organizing Committee
Ray Paton, Roy Cuthbertson Mike Holcombe and 'Trina Houghton


Sponsors
GPT
Unilever

Submission Details
All authors must submit 4 copies of the full technical
paper by mail or delivery service to:

Ray Paton
Department of Computer Science
The University of Liverpool 
Liverpool L69 3BX
UK

PLEASE DO NOT SUBMIT PAPERS BY FAX. 

The paper should be in English, double-spaced in 12 point 
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16 pages including the first page. 

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author's names including affiliations, complete mailing
address, telephone and FAX numbers, email address,
and a 250 word (maximum) abstract.

Important Dates

Submission deadline:      Friday April 14th 1995
Acceptance Notification:  Friday May 26th 1995
Deadline for final paper: Friday June 23rd 1995

PROCEEDINGS
The papers accepted for the workshop will be bound into an
unpublished collection for delegates. 

PUBLICATION OF THE PROCEEDINGS
It is intended that a post workshop proceedings will
be published by Springer-Verlag and will appear 
after the workshop.

Enquiries
Enquires should be addressed to Ray Paton at the above address or
FAX +44 51 794 3715 or 
email tissues@csc.liv.ac.uk

From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Thu Feb 09 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news.cs.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!corona!patrick
From: Patrick O'Neil <patrick@corona>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,bionet.molbio.bio-matrix,bionet.molbio.embldatabank,bionet.molbio.evolution,bionet.molbio.gdb,bionet.molbio.gene-linkage,bionet.molbio.genome-program,bionet.molbio.hiv,bionet.molbio.rapd,bionet.molbio.yeast
Subject: Re: controversies & ethics
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 23:44:24 -0700
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On 31 Jan 1995, Jared Roach wrote:
>         2) The human race as a whole (or national governments, or
> individuals) is slow to reach consensus on ethical issues (i.e.
> religion, abortion, the creation of new species, etc.)  Science
> should slow its pace of discovery to allow Ethics to catch up.

I could never go along with this point.  What, tell us all that we 
should quit looking at this?  Stop research concerning that?  Take up a 
new trade, like house painting?  I do and will continue to study and learn 
just as quickly as I am physically capable.  I could never say, "well, 
that result sure does point to a VERY exciting, very interesting, line of 
research that would increase my understanding of x.  Well, maybe I'll 
just cool my jets and let it go for a decade or so.  Sure don't want to 
upset those who can't handle the fast pace of scientific understanding."

In any case, it is a pointless thought since if this or that or those 
countries stopped research on x, then some other country or group would 
take it up because there would be a possible economic boon tied to it.  
If not us, then someone else.  Humans have never and will never all agree 
to the same extent on ANYTHING.  I would go to any location that would 
support what I am interested in researching, be it transgenics or gene 
therapy, etc.


From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Thu Feb 09 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news.cs.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!corona!patrick
From: Patrick O'Neil <patrick@corona>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.ageing,bionet.molbio.bio-matrix,bionet.molbio.embldatabank,bionet.molbio.evolution,bionet.molbio.gdb,bionet.molbio.gene-linkage,bionet.molbio.genome-program,bionet.molbio.hiv,bionet.molbio.rapd,bionet.molbio.yeast
Subject: Re: controversies & ethics
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 23:28:35 -0700
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On Mon, 30 Jan 1995, Phandaal wrote:
> I've been asked to give a lecture to upper-division college students on
> the controversies and ethical considerations in producing transgenic
> organisms, especially transgenic plants.  It's been a while since I gave
> this lecture, and so I was wondering if anybody had any good examples of
> controversies or ethical considerations that I could incorporate into the 
> talk.

 I spent a year working in a plant molec bio lab that was being partially 
funded by a private company to produce a more fungal resistent 
sugarbeet.  Technically, it would be a transgenic in that a gene, VERY 
closely related to an already present gene, from Arabidopsis was/is to be 
introduced into the sugarbeet and overexpressed, thus bolstering the 
sugarbeet's fungal resistence.  I enjoyed the work very much and saw 
absolutely nothing wrong with it.  It was making use of an already 
existent defensive gene that resides in many plants and simply increasing 
its output by using an easy to maniplate gene from a common lab plant.  
This sugarbeet will allow, hopefully, less use of chemical fungicides.  
  You could argue that it will simply apply selective pressure for fungi 
to evolve resistence...but then, so does the use of fungicides or natural 
defenses.  A more resistent fungi will, conversely, select for more 
fungal-resistent plants.  This can be applied to your first point below too.

> 
> Two I can think of off-hand are:
> 
> 1) introducing insecticidal proteins (such as the Bacillus thuringiensis
> protein) into plants may create resistant insect populations (under the
> force of heavy selection pressure), which could then overrun the resistant
> plants and make worthless the efforts by conventional growers who *use* Bt
> protein as a topical pesticidal spray. 

The use of the spray itself puts selective pressure on insects to develop 
resistence.  The point is moot.

> 
> 2) altering fatty acid metabolism in oil-crops (like canola) so that they 
> produce oils found chiefly in palm and coconut could severely damage the 
> palm oil and coconut oil industries in Third World countries... thus 
> severely depressing the economies of these already struggling countries.

If business was nice, then companies would never be put out of business.  
It may be tough but I could not support artificially supporting a 
weakly-based economy by ignoring a possible economic boon here.  Any 
economy that ties itself to one commodity is *automatically* doomed to bite 
it pretty hard.  Look at Louisiana and the effects of it having placed 
all its economic eggs in the oil business basket -- the state is only now 
beginning to recover from over a decade of depressed economy and hard times.

Patrick

From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Thu Feb 09 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!HKUXA.HKU.HK!hrmbdkc
From: hrmbdkc@HKUXA.HKU.HK (Cheah Kathryn Song Eng)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.bio-matrix
Subject: research funding as %GDP
Date: 10 Feb 1995 03:04:55 -0800
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I would appreciate it if anyone can send me information of the amount 
different countries (e.g. USA, UK, France, Germany, Japan, Taiwan, PRC, 
Korea, Singapore) spend on research as a % of their GDP.
Or at least point me to a source of such information.
Thanks in advance,
Kathy



Dr. Kathy Cheah
Dept. Biochemistry
Hong Kong University
Sassoon Rd.
Hong Kong
Tel: (852)-28199170 (O)
     (852)-28199233 (Lab)
Fax: (852)-28551254
E-mail: HRMBDKC@HKUXA.HKU.HK or HRMBDKC@HKUCC.BITNET


From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Thu Feb 09 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news.cs.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!corona!patrick
From: Patrick O'Neil <patrick@corona>
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Subject: Re: controversies & ethics
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On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Howard M. Bomze wrote:
>    Steve Bonne has been saying that there are no new ethical
> considerations for agricultural biotechnologies.  However, he has been
> missing one very important one, that is the possibility of an engineered
> gene to be transfered to a different species. 

This already happens in nature by various means, one of which is viral.  
There is no absolute genetic sanctity in nature.  As for transgenics, 
especially in plants, one tool for introducing foreign genes is 
agrobacteria.  This microbe is fully capable of vectoring interspecific 
DNA without lab manipulation.  The DNA so introduced in the lab does not 
carry any special DNA destabilizer, rather, it depends on the rather 
scattershot and low-yield natural method of homologous recombination or 
illegitimate recombination.  Another method has absolutely no danger of 
transfering a new DNA transfer method to nature:  the gene gun.  DNA of 
interest bound to microscopic gold beads and shot into cells offers 
absolutely no threat of tranfering into an uncontrollable means of 
interspecific gene transfer in the wild.

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CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
--------------------------------------------------

(Apologies for duplicates due to email list overlaps!)



SOCIETY AND THE FUTURE OF COMPUTING '95
---------------------------------------

June 11-14, 1995
Tamarron Lodge
Durango, Colorado


Conference URL:  
---------------

http://www.lanl.gov/LANLNews/Conferences/.sfc95/sfcHome.html


Conference Goals
----------------

As our national research community responds to new national 
needs, our society needs a vigorous and open discussion about 
the social goals of computer science research and applications.

The end of the Cold War has changed the set of challenges facing 
the United States and its science and technology community.  This 
conference will provide a forum in which to share, explore, and 
demonstrate the responsible use of advanced scientific computing 
and National Information Infrastructure program technologies for 
the benefit of diverse communities, and articulate novel research 
directions that advance computer science in ways that have high 
social benefits.


Organizing Sponsors
-------------------

This conference is an initiative of the U.S.  Public 
Policy Committee of the Association for Computing Machinery
(USACM), sponsored and organized by the Los Alamos National 
Laboratory in cooperation with the University of Maryland 
Human-Computer Interaction Laboratory and the ACM special 
interest groups SIGCAS, SIGCHI, and SIGCAPH, and 
(pending formal approval) IEEE US Activities. 


Additional Sponsors
-------------------

Generous support for this conference has been provided
by the following additional sponsors:

Apple Computer, Inc.
Cray Research, Inc.
IBM POWER Parallel Division
MCI Government Systems

(Others expected.)


Who Should Attend
-----------------

This conference addresses a wide range of fields. 
Professionals from government, academia, and commerce will
benefit from the innovative proposals for research and application.
Computer scientists, commercial developers, government information
specialists, research managers, directors of advanced technology,
community planners, civic leaders, educators, vendors, and anyone
interested in computing's social impact and the NII technologies can
contribute to the discussions that are likely to shape some of the
future directions of these themes.

Relevant research areas include advanced networking, human-computer
interaction, multimedia, wide area distributed computing, computer
supported cooperative work, the design process, and integrating
heterogeneous systems.  Relevant applications include education, 
medicine, digital libraries, civic networking and teledemocracy, 
natural disaster prediction and response, transportation 
safety and efficiency, computing for people with disabilities, 
crime prevention, job training and skills improvement, workplace 
computing, sustainable environmental preservation, community 
networking and economic development, and intercommunity 
sharing of resources, among others.


Conference Participation:
-------------------------

In a retreat environment, invited speakers, panel organizers 
and panelists from academia, industry, and government 
will be joined by 40-50 poster presentations.  THIS IS AN OPEN
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION.  

We expect 30-50 posters to be displayed at the conference, and 
there will be two program sessions in which attendees will have
the chance to discuss posters with the poster authors.
Each poster entry will have a large conference poster board and
a table on which to display the work.  

If your work is in any way related to the themes of this
conference, you are encouraged to come share your ideas
in the form of a poster presentation at the conference.
The conference registration booklet details how you can
submit your poster abstract describing your work and
indicating the social impact of the work and its application 
to real-world problems.  

If you have questions regarding any aspect of poster
participation in the conference, please contact the conference
poster coordinator, Douglas Schuler, 206-865-3832, douglas@scn.org.

The conference will be limited to 250 professional and 30 student 
attendees.  EARLY REGISTRATION IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.  
We will offer scholarships for students wishing to attend this conference.


Conference Structure and Speakers:
----------------------------------

The program begins Sunday evening and continues through approximately
4:00pm Wednesday afternoon.  Monday and Tuesday afternoons include 
poster sessions in addition to the invited speaker sessions.  Some 
sessions are panels while others present a series of noted speakers.  
The following is a preliminary list of participants, though the full 
list of speakers and panelists is still developing (in alphabetical 
order):
 
   Gary Chapman, University of Texas, Austin
   Peter J. Denning, George Mason University
   Gwendolyn Doebbert, California Department of Health Services
   Troy A. Eid, Executive Director, NIIT
   William J. Halverson, Pacific Bell Health Care Market Group
   Rob Kling, Unifersity of California, Irvine
   Dale Lehman, Fort Lewis College
   Richard Lowenberg, Telluride Institute
   Don Norman, Apple Computer
   Kent Norman, University of Maryland
   Roy Pea, Northwestern University
   Catherine Plaisant, University of Maryland
   Peggy Poggio, LLNL and Institute for Telemedicine
   Virginia E. Rezmierski, University of Michigan
   Leslie Sandberg, Executive Director, Institute for Telemedicine
   Ben Shneiderman, University of Maryland HCIL
   Barbara Simons, IBM; Chair, USACM
   Elliott Soloway, University of Michigan 
   Connie D. Stout, University of Texas TENET
   Rolf Wigand, Syracuse University
   Stu Zweben, Ohio State University; President, ACM
 

Conference Program
------------------

A copy of the preliminary program is included in the registration 
booklet.  However, the following is the working list of session topics:

<> Visions of the Future of Society and Computing
<> Telemedicine, Medical Imaging, and Roadblocks on
   the Infobahn
<> Home Life on the NII
<> Social Needs and the Design Process
<> Education Issues and Applications
<> Digital Libraries: Information Management and the Citizen of 
   Tomorrow
<> Electronic Commerce and the Economy of Tomorrow
<> Community Networks and Teledemocracy
<> The Role of Government in NII and the Future of Computing
<> New Directions for Society and the Future of Computing


Student Scholarships
--------------------

We are encouraging student attendence and participation in
the conference by offering extensive scholarships for students
whose major field of study is Computer Science, or Social Sciences 
with computer-related emphasis.  The conference registration booklet
details how you can submit your application for a student
scholarship.

Students who participate in the program will also be asked to 
help with conference logistics.


Conference Location
-------------------

This conference is being held at the Tamarron Lodge,
18 miles north of Durango, in southwestern Colorado.
This is a full-service hotel that specializes in conferences
and workshops.  The beautiful mountain surroundings and
the secluded location provide for a unique and productive
environment for conference discussions.  Hotel and airline
reservation information is included in the conference registration 
booklet.  The Durango airport supports regular flights to Denver,
Phoenix, and Albuquerque.


Conference Registration Information
-----------------------------------

To receive a registration booklet including information about 
student scholarships, poster entries, the conference program, 
conference fees, the Durango area, travel arrangements, and 
the Tamarron Lodge, please send your name, US postal address, 
email address, and phone number to the conference registrar 
at one of the following addresses:

Email address:    sfc95@lanl.gov

We would prefer that you use email to request registration 
information.  However, if you have no access to email,
please send your request to:

SFC '95 Conference Registrar
Protocol Office, Attn: Jan Hull
Mail Stop P366
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Los Alamos, NM 87545
USA



Conference Co-Chairs
--------------------

Rick Light, LANL, rxl@lanl.gov
Ben Shneiderman, University of Maryland, ben@cs.umd.edu


Executive Advisor for the Program
---------------------------------

Andy White, LANL, abw@lanl.gov


Program Committee
-----------------

Phil Agre, Program Chair,  UC San Diego, pagre@weber.ucsd.edu
Dan Kerlinsky, UNM, dkerlins@medusa.unm.edu
Rob Kling, UC Irvine, kling@ics.uci.edu
Barbara Simons, IBM, simons@vnet.ibm.com
Marc Rottenberg, CPSR, rotenberg@washofc.cpsr.org
Rick Weingarten, CRA, rick@cra.org


Conference Coordinator
----------------------

Jan Hull, LANL, jhull@lanl.gov


Conference Multimedia Specialist
--------------------------------

Jim Cruz, LANL, cruzn@lanl.gov





From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Wed Feb 15 22:00:00 1995
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.950209231506.19239H-100000@corona> Patrick O'Neil <patrick@corona> writes:
>From: Patrick O'Neil <patrick@corona>
>Subject: Re: controversies & ethics
>Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 23:28:35 -0700



>On Mon, 30 Jan 1995, Phandaal wrote:
>> I've been asked to give a lecture to upper-division college students on
>> the controversies and ethical considerations in producing transgenic
>> organisms, especially transgenic plants.  It's been a while since I gave
>> this lecture, and so I was wondering if anybody had any good examples of
>> controversies or ethical considerations that I could incorporate into the 
>> talk.

> I spent a year working in a plant molec bio lab that was being partially 
>funded by a private company to produce a more fungal resistent 
>sugarbeet.  Technically, it would be a transgenic in that a gene, VERY 
>closely related to an already present gene, from Arabidopsis was/is to be 
>introduced into the sugarbeet and overexpressed, thus bolstering the 
>sugarbeet's fungal resistence.  I enjoyed the work very much and saw 
>absolutely nothing wrong with it.  It was making use of an already 
>existent defensive gene that resides in many plants and simply increasing 
>its output by using an easy to maniplate gene from a common lab plant.  
>This sugarbeet will allow, hopefully, less use of chemical fungicides.  
>  You could argue that it will simply apply selective pressure for fungi 
>to evolve resistence...but then, so does the use of fungicides or natural 
>defenses.  A more resistent fungi will, conversely, select for more 
>fungal-resistent plants.  This can be applied to your first point below too.

>> 
>> Two I can think of off-hand are:
>> 
>> 1) introducing insecticidal proteins (such as the Bacillus thuringiensis
>> protein) into plants may create resistant insect populations (under the
>> force of heavy selection pressure), which could then overrun the resistant
>> plants and make worthless the efforts by conventional growers who *use* Bt
>> protein as a topical pesticidal spray. 

>The use of the spray itself puts selective pressure on insects to develop 
>resistence.  The point is moot.

>> 
>> 2) altering fatty acid metabolism in oil-crops (like canola) so that they 
>> produce oils found chiefly in palm and coconut could severely damage the 
>> palm oil and coconut oil industries in Third World countries... thus 
>> severely depressing the economies of these already struggling countries.

>If business was nice, then companies would never be put out of business.  
>It may be tough but I could not support artificially supporting a 
>weakly-based economy by ignoring a possible economic boon here.  Any 
>economy that ties itself to one commodity is *automatically* doomed to bite 
>it pretty hard.  Look at Louisiana and the effects of it having placed 
>all its economic eggs in the oil business basket -- the state is only now 
>beginning to recover from over a decade of depressed economy and hard times.

>Patrick


From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Tue Feb 21 22:00:00 1995
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From: Tim Johnson <74557.3134@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: bionet.biology.tropical,bionet.molbio.bio-matrix,bionet.mycology,bionet.plants,misc.health.alternative
Subject: Database of Plants & Their Uses
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I just finished the first version of Herbage, a shareware program 
for DOS. This program allows searches of a very large database of 
plants from all around the world. You can search in 10 
categories, including alkaloid and nutrition content, native 
range and habitat, traditional uses for specific illnesses, and 
U.S. mail-order sources. This program is the result of two years 
of research using object-oriented and relational data models. As 
far I as know, this is the first program to make use of this 
technology for the collection of plant information.

It is available: 

1. Compuserve \ New Age Forum \ IBM PC Files
2. Compuserve \ Gardening \ New Uploads
3. Compuserve \ Holistic Health \ Herbs & Plants
4. America Online \ Learning & Reference 
     \ Educational Software \ PC/MS DOS Educational Software 
     \ New Education Files

Within a week or so, it will be available on the FTP site:

oak.oakland.edu \ simtel \ msdos \ food

- Tim Johnson

From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Thu Feb 23 22:00:00 1995
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>I just finished the first version of Herbage, a shareware program 
>for DOS. This program allows searches of a very large database of 
>plants from all around the world.

  Hi Tim
  Which very large databases - how do you connect up ?  Is Herbage an 
empty RDBMS, or are there data in it already ?
  Marco



From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Sun Feb 26 22:00:00 1995
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In article <mbleeker.109.00028D9D@euronet.nl>,
mbleeker@euronet.nl (Marco_Bleeker) wrote:

>>I just finished the first version of Herbage, a shareware program 
>>for DOS. This program allows searches of a very large database of 
>>plants from all around the world.
>
>  Which very large databases - how do you connect up ?  Is Herbage an 
>empty RDBMS, or are there data in it already ?

I'm interested too. Could you please send some details by email? Thanks.

Adrian





From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Sun Feb 26 22:00:00 1995
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On 31 Jan 1995, Jared Roach wrote:

>         Now one might argue that the speed of recombinant research
> has two dangers:
>         1) The rest of the ecosystem is not changing as fast to
> modify itself so as to maintain some kind of ecological "balance."
> Furthermore, scientists may be slower to understand ecological impact
> than they are in developing new organisms.

This is not just restricted to transgenics.  Chemical companies and 
farmers don't want nature to catch up to pesticides too quickly (if at 
all) so would it be bad if DOW, for instance, came up with a pesticide 
that insects or fungi were extremely slow to catch up to?  (Leaving the 
debate over the use of such chemicals aside for the moment)
  The whole basis of farming is one of a state of unbalance.  A field 
made up of only one species of plant is not, itself, natural and is 
unbalanced.  Plants being protected by human interventions from predators 
is unbalanced.  If it was all let alone then balance would come but at 
the expense of food for the populous.  Where and what is a good state of 
unbalance, then?  Even organic farming requires human-induced unbalancing 
through the artificial increased mass of fertilizing manure, introduction 
of unnatural numbers of beneficial insects, etc.  

>         2) The human race as a whole (or national governments, or
> individuals) is slow to reach consensus on ethical issues (i.e.
> religion, abortion, the creation of new species, etc.)  Science
> should slow its pace of discovery to allow Ethics to catch up.
>  

Some of these areas will NEVER be an area of consensus.  The new species 
that I have seen/read about are incredibly specialized and always based 
on natural examples (hydrocarbon consuming bacteria).  A beefalo isn't 
itself so odd, for instance, except in name.  They are a melding of two 
very closely related species and like cattle, are not set up to take over 
the world...just dinner tables.  I am no fan of the cattle industry but 
is such specialized living food really any worse than any domesticated 
food animal, bred for sloth, even temper, tender haunches, etc?
  In any case, the idea, "Science should slow down discovery" is 
disturbing.  I again ask, what do you do, tell a scientist that he or she 
is doing too well and finding out too much?  Knowledge is deadly 
and bad?  More disturbing to me than any talk of _unthinking_ 
tampering with lifespan to any significant degree is the idea that 
one can know too much.  One can learn too much.  Religions tend to take 
that position when their particular belief system is threatened by some 
bit of knowledge.  So, just cover your eyes and ears and pretend that 
what is so is NOT so?  Knowledge is NEVER the problem, it is how you use 
it. 
 That said, transgenics is not, in and of itself, bad unless it is done
foolishly and for the wrong reasons.  I presently work with transgenic
mice in a cancer research lab.  They are indespensible to the research.  

Patrick


From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Sun Feb 26 22:00:00 1995
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Tim,
   I am interested in your database but went to oak.oakland.edu and
couldn't find it.  Is the name of the program Herbage?  Is it there yet.  
Thanks,
Ed

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From: seavey@sun6.cs.wisc.edu (Beverly Seavey)
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Does anyone have a pointer to the LIMB database,
or to a database devoted to tRNA sequences?

From owner-bio-matrix@net.bio.net Mon Feb 27 22:00:00 1995
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In article <3itl2d$jve@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, seavey@sun6.cs.wisc.edu (Beverly Seavey) writes:

>Does anyone have a pointer to the LIMB database,
>or to a database devoted to tRNA sequences?

You can gain acess to LIMB at the EBI WWW server at the 
URL http://www.ebi.ac.uk/srs/srsc

This will allow you to query LIMB as well as the following datbases

Name            Release   Entries   Indexing Date    Library Group


SWISSPROT                   40292     24-Nov-1994         Sequence   
SWISSNEW                     7746     18-Feb-1995         Sequence   
PIR                         71995     18-Feb-1995         Sequence   
EMBL                       234501     11-Dec-1994         Sequence   
EMNEW                       77415     28-Feb-1995         Sequence   
NRL3D                        4153     18-Feb-1995         Sequence   
NRSUB                         248     18-Feb-1995         Sequence   
PDB                          3331     17-Feb-1995    ProteinStruct   
HSSP                         2074     17-Feb-1995    ProteinStruct   
DSSP                         2178     28-Feb-1995    ProteinStruct   
ALI                            84     24-Nov-1994    ProteinStruct   
FSSP                          284     17-Feb-1995    ProteinStruct   
PROSITE                      1029     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
PROSITEDOC                    786     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
BLOCKS                        770     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
EPD                          1251     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
ECDC                         3571     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
ENZYME                       3546     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
REBASE                       2454     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
PRODOM                      23105     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
FLYGENE                      6614     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
SWISSDOM                    28224     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
PIRALN                       1183     18-Feb-1995       SeqRelated   
SEQANALREF                   2579     18-Feb-1995       Literature   
MEDLINE                    168773     06-Dec-1994       Literature   
LIMB                          120     18-Feb-1995           Others   
TFSITE                       4042     18-Feb-1995         TransFac   
TFFACTOR                     1412     18-Feb-1995         TransFac   

RGDS -=ROB=-

