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do any of you believe gravity is caused by
particles?



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In article <6v30qv$cii@ednet2.orednet.org> Jill A. Hilliard,
jhilliar@orednet.org writes:
>do any of you believe gravity is caused by
>particles?
>

Why not? All the other forces we know about are.

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In article <01bdef2b$3adf8040$570dd9cf@TheDaniel> k,
klap@biomath.medsch.ucla writes:
>Spin 2 bosons, to be exact.  They're called gravitons, and
>the spin 2 bit gives you a fource which is always attractive,
>never repulsive.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kevin


Just to be clear, these particles remain hypothetical at present, do they
not?

-Matt

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Regarding protein folding, what I thought I knew:  sometimes proteins will
fold correctly on their own---sequence determines geometry---and sometimes
they need help from "chaperones."A friend who does biological mathematics
claims that there's more to it thanthat.  Namely, he says that a _random_
sequence will probably not foldwell at all.  That is, the proteins are
"special" in that they have goodfolding properties, among all possible
(long) polypeptides.  (Even theones that use chaperones probably do a lot of
the folding on their own,I'd guess.)  The conventional explanation would be
"chemical" evolution: sequences that don't fold well, their genes are
selected against.Is this claim about protein folding, namely that the
proteins are a[very small] subset of long polypeptides which are special
because theyhave good folding properties, true?-- Stephen J. Fromm

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Jill A. Hilliard <jhilliar@orednet.org> wrote in article
<6v30qv$cii@ednet2.orednet.org>...
> 
> do any of you believe gravity is caused by
> particles?
> 
Spin 2 bosons, to be exact.  They're called gravitons, and
the spin 2 bit gives you a fource which is always attractive,
never repulsive.

Cheers,

Kevin

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does the presence of monopole increase the likelihood
of very massive dark matter?
i believe mag  are dipolar or bipolar right?


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Jill A. Hilliard <jhilliar@orednet.org> wrote in article
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> i believe mag  are dipolar or bipolar right?

magnets are dipolar.  It's the physicists who tend to be bipolar.

Doug.

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"George Wood" (or maybe "Doug") <george.wood@ci.seattle.wa.us> said:
> magnets are dipolar.  It's the physicists who tend to be bipolar.

Yes! Yes! I'm really, really dipolar!  You got it right on
the nose!

I'm sorry.  Sometimes I get a bit hyper.

I think I'll go home now, shut the curtains and get into bed.
Sorry for bothering you.

  :) :(  :)  :(  :)


						Andrew
						dalke@bioreason.com

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Matt Jones <jonesmat@ohsu.edu> wrote in article
<6v8e1h$q79$1@fremont.ohsu.edu>...
> In article <01bdef2b$3adf8040$570dd9cf@TheDaniel> k,
> klap@biomath.medsch.ucla writes:
> >Spin 2 bosons, to be exact.  They're called gravitons, and
> >the spin 2 bit gives you a fource which is always attractive,
> >never repulsive.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Kevin
> 
> 
> Just to be clear, these particles remain hypothetical at present, do they
> not?
> 
> -Matt
> 

Yes, unless you count the attraction of your coffee cup to the 
near by mass of the earth as a detection of gravitons.  Rather
a stretch.  Still, you can only detect a particle by its' interaction
with other particles.  Gravitons couple only to mass, and so
that's the only way to detect them.  Because gravity is such
a weak force, the effects on single particles are not likely 
to be seen, so it's back to the earth-and-coffee-cup size
scale.

About ten years ago, there was an experiment done to 
look for a difference in gravitational effects on electrons
as opposed to positrons (the corresponding anti-particle).
Theory says there should be no difference.

Sadly, the gravitational effects were largely swamped by
tiny electromagnetic effects: induced currents in near by
metals due to a few positrons flying by, etc..  My reading
of the paper was that the results were inconclusive because
the experiment was just to difficult and riddled with 
unpredictable sources of noise.

We can also tell that they have to be massless (like photons)
because gravity follows a 1/r^2 decay law (like electromagnetism).

The possibility exists that we're out to lunch on this one.  Our theory
of gravity is General Relativity, and our theory of particles is the
standard model.  The two have not been brought into agreement
yet, and "quantizing gravity" from GR is still a hot topic
of research for very clever masochists.  If/when they
succeed in quantizing GR, that should answer a lot of questions.

Cheers,

Kevin  

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On Sun, 4 Oct 1998 fromm@nauticom.net wrote:

> Regarding protein folding, what I thought I knew:  sometimes proteins will
> fold correctly on their own---sequence determines geometry---and sometimes
> they need help from "chaperones."A friend who does biological mathematics
> claims that there's more to it thanthat.  Namely, he says that a _random_
> sequence will probably not foldwell at all.  That is, the proteins are
> "special" in that they have goodfolding properties, among all possible
> (long) polypeptides.  (Even theones that use chaperones probably do a lot of
> the folding on their own,I'd guess.)  The conventional explanation would be
> "chemical" evolution: sequences that don't fold well, their genes are
> selected against.Is this claim about protein folding, namely that the
> proteins are a[very small] subset of long polypeptides which are special
> because theyhave good folding properties, true?-- Stephen J. Fromm
> 

First let me say that I don't know the answer to that. The idea makes
sense, though, especially considering that most long polypeptides have an
abundance of secondary structure, even in regions that are not
functionally acitve. I believe the current model of protein folding is
that individual secondary strutures and other stable domains spontaneously
fold first and then coalesce[sp?] into a molten globule that in some cases
requires chaperone assistance. These secondary structures cut down the
degrees of freedom in which the polypeptide can move to a major extent,
and thus (I would think) the time in which the folding process can be
completed. Chances are that most random sequences would not have a
well-defined pattern of secondary structure regions and would then take an
unreasonably long time to fold. 
   YOu could probably also apply this same argument to
hydrophobic/hydrophilic regions as well. This is just a guess, though... 

Matthew D Zimmerman
University of Virginia  Interdisciplinary Program of Biophysics
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fromm@nauticom.net wrote:

> Is this claim about protein folding, namely that the
> proteins are a
> [very small] subset of long polypeptides which are special
> because they
> have good folding properties, true?

Most definitely yes.  You might want to take a look at the literature in the
field of de novo protein design.  It is exceptionally difficult to design a
sequence that folds into a structure that has the properties of a "natural"
protein.  Conversely it is easy to introduce just a few mutations into a
natural sequence that prevent a polypeptide from folding.

Simon
--
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Thanks for your response.  Since I'm trained in mathematics, the idea of
global (tertiary) structure was natural to me, and I hadn't considered the
role of secondary structure.  While I'd still appreciate more posts on the
matter from anyone, your comment re randomness destroying any chance for
secondary structure, and its relevance to the folding issue as a whole, is a
good one.



In article <Pine.A32.3.93.981005145948.65696A-100000@avery.med.Virginia.EDU>,
  Matthew David Zimmerman <mdz4c@avery.med.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Oct 1998 fromm@nauticom.net wrote:
>
> > Regarding protein folding, what I thought I knew:  sometimes proteins will
> > fold correctly on their own---sequence determines geometry---and sometimes
> > they need help from "chaperones."A friend who does biological mathematics
> > claims that there's more to it thanthat.  Namely, he says that a _random_
> > sequence will probably not foldwell at all.  That is, the proteins are
> > "special" in that they have goodfolding properties, among all possible
> > (long) polypeptides.  (Even theones that use chaperones probably do a lot of
> > the folding on their own,I'd guess.)  The conventional explanation would be
> > "chemical" evolution: sequences that don't fold well, their genes are
> > selected against.Is this claim about protein folding, namely that the
> > proteins are a[very small] subset of long polypeptides which are special
> > because theyhave good folding properties, true?-- Stephen J. Fromm
> >
>
> First let me say that I don't know the answer to that. The idea makes
> sense, though, especially considering that most long polypeptides have an
> abundance of secondary structure, even in regions that are not
> functionally acitve. I believe the current model of protein folding is
> that individual secondary strutures and other stable domains spontaneously
> fold first and then coalesce[sp?] into a molten globule that in some cases
> requires chaperone assistance. These secondary structures cut down the
> degrees of freedom in which the polypeptide can move to a major extent,
> and thus (I would think) the time in which the folding process can be
> completed. Chances are that most random sequences would not have a
> well-defined pattern of secondary structure regions and would then take an
> unreasonably long time to fold.
>    YOu could probably also apply this same argument to
> hydrophobic/hydrophilic regions as well. This is just a guess, though...
>
> Matthew D Zimmerman
> University of Virginia  Interdisciplinary Program of Biophysics
> http://hsc.virginia.edu/~mdz4c           mdz4c @ virginia . edu
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> "All the world's a stage... most of us are just stagehands."
>
>


--
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The following may be of interest to you.
Jupiter Scientific has posted a list of
the greatest unsolved problems in science
at the site
http://ajanta.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~jupiter/pub/sciinfo/

Is your favorite unsolved scientific problem there?
Do you have a suggestion for the list?

--Joseph
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From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Wed Oct 07 23:00:00 1998
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From: Matthew Hicks <baps9@central.susx.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: protein folding
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:47:01 +0100
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There are 20^N polypeptides of length N (ie lots). A subset of these can
reach a global (?- comments?) minimum energy in a given set of
conditions. A subset can
reach this minimum energy conformation in a given set of conditions with
the help
of chaperones (thought to give misfolded proteins another go at
folding). Consider what you mean by 'folded' - don't forget that even
the most stable protein structures are not just one shape all the time
but a 'family' of structures. In some proteins the family is v. closely
related and the protein will appear less flexible/dynamic/floppy. In
others there are many structures of v. similar energy which are
'adjacent' in conformational space - this is what you mean by molten
globule (which is not thought to be an intermediate in most
naturally evolved protein folding pathways). A helpful way of
visualising a folding pathway is to imagine a mountainous landscape
onto which you drop from a plane a zillion marbles. Valleys are low
energy, mountains are high energy. The marbles (proteins) will roll
downhill. Depending on the landscape (which is determined by the
sequence in the polypeptide chain) some of them may get stuck in valleys
which are lower than the surrounding peaks but nevertheless still quite
high - these will need chaperones to pick them out and dump them
somewhere else on the landscape giving another go at folding correctly
(rolling into the deepest valley. Valleys
with steep sides are
characteristic of polypeptide chains which produce rigid proteins and
flatter bottomed valleys result when you have chains which produce
flexible proteins. Being a mathematician you can probably visualise the
situation as multidimensional (which it is) rather than just 4D (I
can't).
There ... hope people are interested in continuing this discussion /
telling me where they thing I'm talking out of my **** / adding to any
of the points raised.

Matt Hicks
University of Sussex (UK)

:)




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From: bpmurray*STUFFER*@socrates.ucsf.edu (Bernard P. Murray, PhD)
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Subject: Re: protein folding
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 13:25:52 -0700
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I'm jumping into this discussion late and our news spooler doesn't
have a large capacity so pardon me if this has been mentioned before
but part of the job of chaperones/chaperonins etc. and one of the
problems of folding at the practical level is to prevent aggregation.
Unless the protein folds so rapidly that this is essentially
co-translational there will be nascent partly folded peptides
being formed within the cell and these could aggregate and prevent
further folding.  Such a situation also obtains where a chemically
denatured protein is allowed to refold (dialysing out the urea etc.).
     While molecular dynamics simulations can reproduce some folding
pathways these are almost always those of the "efficient" group
alluded to in a previous post.  I know of no simulations of either
high concentrations of protein or of protein/chaperone mixes.
     Bernard
-- 
Bernard P. Murray, PhD
Dept. Cell. Mol. Pharmacol., UCSF, San Francisco, USA

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From the Editors of SCIENCE-WEEK:

A number of extensive Focus Reports, consisting of explicating texts and
summary groups extracted from back issues of SCIENCE-WEEK, have
been posted at the website and are available free at

                    http://scienceweek.com

Focus Reports are added or updated irregularly. The reports vary in length and
are plain ASCII texts without HTML coding.

The current list of free available Focus Reports is given below.


SCIENCE-WEEK Focus Reports
--------------------------
Cosmology: Models and Extrapolations
Evolution: The Dinosaur-Bird Linkage
Herpes Simplex Virus
Anthropology and Human Evolution
Cloning and Genetic Engineering: Policy Aspects
Quantum Mechanics
Earth Science
Microbial Drug Resistance
Viruses
The Neuron
Atomic and Molecular Spectroscopy
Astrophysics: Gamma Ray Bursts
Molecular Biology: Protein Folding
The Birth of Galaxies and Stars
Cosmology: Dark Matter
Origin of Life
Biological Cell Membranes (1)
Biological Cell Membranes (2)
The Death of Stars
Weak Bonds in Chemistry and Biology

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                 From Sequence To Structure:
                       A one day course
             in computational structural biology


Lecturer and instructor: Dr. Ruben Abagyan
                         Skirball Institute of Biomolecular Medicine,
                         New York University, and
                         Molsoft

Date:                    Thursday, October 29, 1998

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The following topics will be covered:

   * Sensitive sequence searches
   * Multiple sequence alignments and trees
   * Secondary structure prediction, pattern recognition, functional
     annotation
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   * Structure-based analysis of sequence conservation
   * Protein surfaces and structure analysis
   * Introducing mutations
   * Ab initio peptide folding

For additional information and to register, please call 732-321-8690, or
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From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Mon Oct 12 23:00:00 1998
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From: Yi Zhu <yizhu@kringle.bri.nrc.ca>
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Subject: NMR Postdoctoral Positions
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:02:09 -0400
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Two NMR Postdoctoral Positions:
(available after January, 1999)

(1) Solution Structure and Conformational Stability of Protein-Ligand Complexes
(2) Conformational Dynamics of Bioactive Peptides

The Biomolecular NMR laboratory of the Biotechnology Research Institute 
(BRI) has two postdoctoral openings in Biomolecular NMR.  The first position 
will have the work centered on NOE assignment/structure calculations, NMR 
relaxation measurements, and meaurements of ligand exchange rates.  The 
second position will focus on peptide conformational analysis, measurement 
of proton relaxation rates, and NMR-based conformational searches.  Ideal 
candidates should have a recent Ph.D. in chemistry, biochemistry or a related 
discipline, and have prior experience in at least one or two areas of the 
planned research projects.

The mandate of the Biomolecular NMR Group at BRI is to carry out research 
into the structure, molecular interactions and design of mimetics within 
protein systems that are strategic targets for pharmaceutical development.  
The core of our work is the use of multi-dimensional NMR to determine the 
bioactive conformations of peptides and protein fragments and to establish 
their modes of binding with protein targets.  Research projects are focused 
on the following areas: 

   (1) dissection of regulatory protease-inhibitor/cofactor functional 
       interfaces; 
   (2) minimization and mimetics design of the EGF- and granulin-like 
       protein repeats; 
   (3) interactions of kinase and phosphatase domains with their protein 
       targets; 
   (4) solution conformations of human parathyroid hormone (PTH) and 
       antibody (VH) fragments; 
   (5) methods for the structural characterization of protein-ligand complexes.

The primary goal of our research is to elucidate the molecular determinants 
of the selective interactions of bioactive peptides and proteins and to 
assist the design of functional mimetics of protein-protein interactions.  
Our NMR work is supported by a 500 MHz NMR spectrometer and by shared use 
with external clients of a second 500 MHz NMR spectrometer and of an 800 MHz 
very-high-field NMR facility (established in 1997).

The salary for postdoctoral fellows is at the standard MRC rate of 
CND$ 24,000-27,000/year commensurate with experience.  Successful 
candidates are encouraged to apply for the NSERC visiting fellowships in 
NRC laboratories which offer a competitive salary of $36,000/year plus 
some relocation expenses.  Interested candidates should send their CVs 
and arrange for two letters of references sent to:

	Dr. Feng Ni
	Group Leader, Biomolecular NMR
	Biotechnology Research Institute
	6100 Royalmount Avenue
	Montreal, Quebec
	Canada H4P 2R2

or contact Dr. Feng Ni at:

	Phone: (514)-496-6729; Fax: (514)-496-5143
	e_mail:  Feng.Ni@nrc.ca




From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Wed Oct 14 23:00:00 1998
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From: Markus Busold <admin@www.nmr.de>
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Subject: NMR, MRI Resource site
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nmr.de - The International NMR Resource site Update
----------------------------------------------------

Covering the field of NMR, MRI etc. with a Links section, Classifieds
and a

Discussion Forum.

The site will be updated often the next few months , so check back
often!

http://www.nmr.de


News as of 15 October 1998:

- In our Links Section we have reached over 135Links and becoming
more
  almost every day.

- ALL Links are now CHECKED at least twice a week. So this means that
you won´tencounter dead links very often

- Users can comfortably add their own Links


- You can offer/look for Post Doc Positions / Jobs in our free
Classifieds Section

- There is an open discussion Forum




Regards,

Markus Busold
(admin@www.nmr.de)


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or please tell me how to do it, it will avoid my spamming on the list.

Thanks.

Olivier




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	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


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Implants and
Microwave Concerns
by Wolfgang W. Scherer


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E-mail for Wolfgang W. Scherer:    w-m-a@reach.net   or   scherer@reach.net



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Hi Ed,

Thanks for putting such a site together.

It may be of interest to you that only last month a 4 day conference was
held in Kingston, Ontario about technology advances for penal systems
("Beyond Prisons"-conference at Queen's University - Donald Gordon Center)
attended by reps from 35 countries.

Kingston, Ontario, Canada is not only home to Queen's University but also in
it's vicinity hosting one of the highest concentrations of penal
institutions in North America.

The local newspaper The Whig Standard ( Canada oldest newspaper) run an
article ( March 19 1998 page 5) about the new implant chip that can control
convicts. It can be traced per satellite or phone systems, and can be used
to demobilize carriers even "eliminate" = kill them. The chip is so small
that it can be injected into the body (with a vaccination??).

This is no science fiction or April fools joke.

The American 'promoter' Stephen Carter of a South Carolina based Consulting
firm painted a picture of enormous savings to the correctional service by
this device, allowing them to totally monitor and control any movement of
the convict thus allowing to house them outside of prisons since they can
any time be immobilized or "eliminated" herewith removing the need for
expensive prisons. They admit that is a "Big Brother" scenario but
desperately needed to contain cost to control the rising "criminal" / prison
population.

Carter was very optimistic that this way of dealing with convicts can save
Millions and the possible abuse won't be there since this will be tightly
supervised by governments.



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Now enter the growing network of communication towers and you have the
technical Cyborg Control in place that allows to enslave anyone by
injection.

I found claims that such a chip has been tested in Florida on children and
nobody knows how many may already unknowingly carry this device Mandatory
vaccinations in school are one of the methods that come to mind - and
suddenly have some frightening meaning. In Canada your kids are already
excluded from school if their vaccination-record is not up-to-date.

But I leave the further search/interpretation to your network - I was
surprised that such things can be in the paper and no one screams.

regards

Wolfgang W. Scherer
Sound Solutions
Picton Ontario Canada

get some more info on micro-wave towers at
   http://www.reach.net/~scherer/p/

From the European Parliament:
   An Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control



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From: "Mike McMurrain" <mike@uwant.com>
Subject: Re: BRAIN POLICE
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I will admit that your fears are not completely unfounded.
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TRANSPONDERS:(PIT TAGS)
I have never seen a transponder capable of affecting human behavior,
as transponder impants do not have their own power source, but rather, are
charged by 'interrogation' from an external power source. (a reader)
This is why they are so appealing - they have no batteries to run out. 
It is 'virtually impossible to alter (the id number they emit)'
If I were some dark force ruling the earth, seeking to enslave the masses,
I would not care so much if I could modify someone's behavior or explode
their head, 
as long as **** I KNEW WHERE THEY WERE AT ALL TIMES ****
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(Aren't we there already?)
Of course I am not saying that implanted self-powered transponders do not
exist...
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In your car: http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/details?patent_number=5605182
Good Article
:http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.12.96/implants-9650.html
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Why should this bother me?
I am a law abiding citizen. I have done nothing wrong.
Who are they, and why would they want to control my life?
I eat, I sleep, I work(usually), and I do it again.
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You see, there is a plan unfolding that is much bigger than any one of us.
It is bigger than the 'New World Order', or the 'Third Way', as they call
it now.
Something is coming, (I do not pretend to know the day or hour) 
A great and terrible thing.
(Let the reader understand)

I leave you with two passages:
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"that WICKED and the STRONG DELUSION" :
2 Thessalonians 2:8:" And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord
shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the
brightness of his coming: 9: Even him, whose coming is after the working of
Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10: And with all
deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they
received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11: And for
this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a
lie: 12: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had
pleasure in unrighteousness."
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"WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST" :
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to
receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man
might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or
the number of his name...and his number is Six hundred & sixty-six.
(Rev.13:15-18)
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"IF YOU RECEIVE THE MARK"
"If any man worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark in his
forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of
God, which is poured out without mixture...And the smoke of their torment
ascendeth up for ever and ever..." (Revelation 14:9,10)
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Mike










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  -Le Boisser, an 18th centuary astronomer after investigating 
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Teodorico wrote:
> 
> Implants and
> Microwave Concerns
> by Wolfgang W. Scherer

As an engineer I've come across such devices.
When they say they are 'injected', you better read 'under local
anasthetic'. They are (at the smallest), about the size of a grain of
rice. Imagine the needle required to deliver that unobrusively in a
school vaccination campaign.

Dirk

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Subject: The definitive challenge for Humanity
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Please, take a look at this report:
http://www.mk.net/~mcf/welsbook.htm
This is the very last chance.
Sincerely,

T. Mouton



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There are alot of problems with your story.   First of all we are at a primative
understanding of how the brain works.   True one could put a chip in the
brain to "kill" the criminal.   True one could have 24 hour audio monitoring
of criminals and know the location of the criminal.

If you want to know how the brain works read coptheory at
http://www.enticypress.com

Ron Blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>
-----Original Message-----
From: Teodorico <jpmouton11@accesosis.es>
To: biophys@net.bio.net <biophys@net.bio.net>
Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 12:23 AM
Subject: BRAIN POLICE


>Implants and
>Microwave Concerns
>by Wolfgang W. Scherer
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
>E-mail for Wolfgang W. Scherer:    w-m-a@reach.net   or   scherer@reach.net
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
>Hi Ed,
>
>Thanks for putting such a site together.
>
>It may be of interest to you that only last month a 4 day conference was
>held in Kingston, Ontario about technology advances for penal systems
>("Beyond Prisons"-conference at Queen's University - Donald Gordon Center)
>attended by reps from 35 countries.
>
>Kingston, Ontario, Canada is not only home to Queen's University but also in
>it's vicinity hosting one of the highest concentrations of penal
>institutions in North America.
>
>The local newspaper The Whig Standard ( Canada oldest newspaper) run an
>article ( March 19 1998 page 5) about the new implant chip that can control
>convicts. It can be traced per satellite or phone systems, and can be used
>to demobilize carriers even "eliminate" = kill them. The chip is so small
>that it can be injected into the body (with a vaccination??).
>
>This is no science fiction or April fools joke.
>
>The American 'promoter' Stephen Carter of a South Carolina based Consulting
>firm painted a picture of enormous savings to the correctional service by
>this device, allowing them to totally monitor and control any movement of
>the convict thus allowing to house them outside of prisons since they can
>any time be immobilized or "eliminated" herewith removing the need for
>expensive prisons. They admit that is a "Big Brother" scenario but
>desperately needed to contain cost to control the rising "criminal" / prison
>population.
>
>Carter was very optimistic that this way of dealing with convicts can save
>Millions and the possible abuse won't be there since this will be tightly
>supervised by governments.
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
>Now enter the growing network of communication towers and you have the
>technical Cyborg Control in place that allows to enslave anyone by
>injection.
>
>I found claims that such a chip has been tested in Florida on children and
>nobody knows how many may already unknowingly carry this device Mandatory
>vaccinations in school are one of the methods that come to mind - and
>suddenly have some frightening meaning. In Canada your kids are already
>excluded from school if their vaccination-record is not up-to-date.
>
>But I leave the further search/interpretation to your network - I was
>surprised that such things can be in the paper and no one screams.
>
>regards
>
>Wolfgang W. Scherer
>Sound Solutions
>Picton Ontario Canada
>
>get some more info on micro-wave towers at
>   http://www.reach.net/~scherer/p/
>
>From the European Parliament:
>   An Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
>         MCF Home Page
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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> "that WICKED and the STRONG DELUSION" :
> 2 Thessalonians 2:8:" And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord
> shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the
> brightness of his coming: 9: Even him, whose coming is after the working of
> Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10: And with all
> deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they
> received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11: And for
> this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a
> lie: 12: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had
> pleasure in unrighteousness."

Very Brave.. posting a passage from the Christian bible in a room devoted
to the scientific method (more or less).

I decline to comment.


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Phred Dobbs <tjhug@orbitworld.net> wrote in article
<362A1B65.56F073DD@orbitworld.net>...
> > "that WICKED and the STRONG DELUSION" :
> > 2 Thessalonians 2:8:" And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the
Lord
> > shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the
> > brightness of his coming: 9: Even him, whose coming is after the
working of
> > Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10: And with all
> > deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they
> > received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11: And
for
> > this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should
believe a
> > lie: 12: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but
had
> > pleasure in unrighteousness."
> 
> Very Brave.. posting a passage from the Christian bible in a room devoted
> to the scientific method (more or less).
> 
> I decline to comment.
> 
> 

No comment.


-- 
                               Mike McMurrain
                              mike@uwant.com
/---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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  -Le Boisser, an 18th centuary astronomer after investigating 
  reports of falling meteorites in rural france.
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"At the smallest they are about the size of a grain of rice" (!) You must be
talking about devices employed for veterinarian identification, I guess. At
now, electrodes and microchips can be built at the nanometric scale. The
classified technology involved with military/government covert mind control
operations is at the quantum level.
Here's an excerpt of a military physician's speech in the 1960s:

"Distances were not a problem, since long wavelengths could travel globally
at the speed of light.
Liquid crystals which are injected directly into the bloodstream and fasten
themselves to the brain have been developed in the last ten years. It works
on the same principle as the usual transmitter and uses the same technology
and contains the same possiblities.
An essential part of biotelemetry encompasses the transmission of data. This
occurs mostly with help from a surgically implanted transmitter. The
technology has been developed quite extensively in medical research."

(P.M. Persson, Swedish Defense Research Institution, FOA, 1965)

So at now, the problem would be likely to do them big enough to need a
syringe...



Dirk Bruere <"artemis"@xkbnet.co.uk> escribió en mensaje
<70bu7f$7qk@news5-gui.server.cableol.net>...

>As an engineer I've come across such devices.
>When they say they are 'injected', you better read 'under local
>anasthetic'. They are (at the smallest), about the size of a grain of
>rice. Imagine the needle required to deliver that unobrusively in a
>school vaccination campaign.
>
>Dirk



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me, please ! It's my 3-4th message I send to the list in order to be
deleted from the newsgroup list... unsuccessfully, as you can see.

So, please again (maybe the un-said rule is a 10-times "please" ?), either
unsubscribe me, for the adminsintrator of the list or, for others, tell me
how to do it !

I don't intend to bother you much longer (I hope). Sorry again.

Olivier




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Subject: Re: BRAIN POLICE
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Teodorico wrote:
> 
> "At the smallest they are about the size of a grain of rice" (!) You must be
> talking about devices employed for veterinarian identification, I guess. At
> now, electrodes and microchips can be built at the nanometric scale. The

So what? The scale we are talking about is one where enough energy has
to be processed to both receive a signal and respond with enough energy
that a satellite can pick it up. Grain of rice it is. BTW, the vetinary
ones have a range of about 1 metre.

> classified technology involved with military/government covert mind control
> operations is at the quantum level.

Ah yes... the 'classified technology' that is so far in advance of
current electronics (despite tens of billions per year being spent in
civilian chip R&D) that any ludicrous claim is possible. This would be
the kind of military electronics I know about, ie the stuff that merely
*looks* like obsolete crap, but is really disguised quantum tech.

> Here's an excerpt of a military physician's speech in the 1960s:
> 
> "Distances were not a problem, since long wavelengths could travel globally
> at the speed of light.

True. And a mobile phone will reach for light years (given a good
receiver).

> Liquid crystals which are injected directly into the bloodstream and fasten
> themselves to the brain have been developed in the last ten years. It works
> on the same principle as the usual transmitter and uses the same technology
> and contains the same possiblities.

So, this superscience from the 60's still has not been reached by
civilian companies such as Intel, Fujitsu etc

> An essential part of biotelemetry encompasses the transmission of data. This
> occurs mostly with help from a surgically implanted transmitter. The
> technology has been developed quite extensively in medical research."

And a lot bigger than a grain of rice.
 
> So at now, the problem would be likely to do them big enough to need a
> syringe...

No. The problem you have is bundling claims about power and distance
with claims about how small things can get, with claims about 'secret
science' that cannot be disproved (because it's secret) and adding a
dose of paranoia and coming up with non existent technology.

I'm just surprised that the word 'Roswell' hasn't appeared yet.

Dirk

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We all know AT&T¡@ and IBM are top labs of computer science
in the world.But where are top biophysics labs or theotetical centers
in the world?

Hui-Ting Chou


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au730@detroit.freenet.org escribió en mensaje
<70g9v5$u80$2@news2.acs.oakland.edu>...
>
>
>flea power grain-size teletransmitters are a relatively rare danger...

When you're on the side of the implanters and controllers, maybe. Shall we
say since when are they being implanted at a massive scale or shall we
shut-up and dismiss it as paranoia? (House's speciality)

>... more dangerous are politicians amateur and other who are liars...


Who are these, then? Anyway, we should agree that even more dangerous are
professional politicians, who are both, politicians and professional liars.
(Or Pentagon's puppets...........)

>... there's your real damage ownership source, and the "lion's share"
>of the realistically-evaluated danger!

There's no worse dictatorship than a covert dictatorship. Now that their
clandestine and classified atrocities are about to burst right at their
reptile's face is when you/they understand that your/their empire was
founded on the inexistent.
The time for retribution has come.

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Dirk Bruere <"artemis"@xkbnet.co.uk> escribió en mensaje
<70fsfd$s75@news5-gui.server.cableol.net>...
>Teodorico wrote:
>>
>> "At the smallest they are about the size of a grain of rice" (!) You must
be
>> talking about devices employed for veterinarian identification, I guess.
At
>> now, electrodes and microchips can be built at the nanometric scale. The
>
>So what? The scale we are talking about is one where enough energy has
>to be processed to both receive a signal and respond with enough energy
>that a satellite can pick it up. Grain of rice it is. BTW, the vetinary
>ones have a range of about 1 metre.
>
>> classified technology involved with military/government covert mind
control
>> operations is at the quantum level.
>
>Ah yes... the 'classified technology' that is so far in advance of
>current electronics (despite tens of billions per year being spent in
>civilian chip R&D) that any ludicrous claim is possible. This would be
>the kind of military electronics I know about, ie the stuff that merely
>*looks* like obsolete crap, but is really disguised quantum tech.
>
>> Here's an excerpt of a military physician's speech in the 1960s:
>>
>> "Distances were not a problem, since long wavelengths could travel
globally
>> at the speed of light.
>
>True. And a mobile phone will reach for light years (given a good
>receiver).
>
>> Liquid crystals which are injected directly into the bloodstream and
fasten
>> themselves to the brain have been developed in the last ten years. It
works
>> on the same principle as the usual transmitter and uses the same
technology
>> and contains the same possiblities.
>
>So, this superscience from the 60's still has not been reached by
>civilian companies such as Intel, Fujitsu etc
>
>> An essential part of biotelemetry encompasses the transmission of data.
This
>> occurs mostly with help from a surgically implanted transmitter. The
>> technology has been developed quite extensively in medical research."
>
>And a lot bigger than a grain of rice.
>
>> So at now, the problem would be likely to do them big enough to need a
>> syringe...
>
>No. The problem you have is bundling claims about power and distance
>with claims about how small things can get, with claims about 'secret
>science' that cannot be disproved (because it's secret) and adding a
>dose of paranoia and coming up with non existent technology.
>
>I'm just surprised that the word 'Roswell' hasn't appeared yet.
>
>Dirk


No. One problem I have is that I've been implanted by those sewer psycopaths
in 1996 after kidnapping, because of political motives, here, in Spain.
Another one, is that last night, their slow, criminal police-military planes
got me an overdose of EM/infrared laser heating after posting a very
embarrassing article for this government -and others-, and the nausea plus
the headache, plus the systematic sleep deprivation, makes writing this a
tough exercise.
We can discuss about the truth, but, if you deny it, remember that written
words remains... It is not my purpose of revealing here and now classified
information that we do possess, besides the fact that English is not my
speaking language. Anyway, here are few excerpts at public disposal -from
Cheryl Welsh' report- that can give an idea of the level reached by the
military. Some say they're 20 years ahead, others say 40...
The main thing here, is that we need less servile government parasites and
more fighting for true humanity.

T. Mouton

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Cornwell, John (1994, Sept.4). A Mindfield For the Brains Trust. Sunday
Times. Lexis-Nexis.

"...Penrose, the 62-year old Rouse Ball Professor of Mathematics at
Oxford...who made his name by collaborating with Stephen Hawking in the
1960s on black holes, was drawn to the consciousness debate in the late
1980s... ...In Shadows of the Mind, Penrose demonstrates that mathematics
and physics are more central to the problems of consciousness than computer
science or even biology. At the same time, he urges that physics must take
consciousness into its scope. "...We must look for a feature of the brain,"
he says, "that can mediate between the microscopic world of quantum physics
and our everyday realm of classical physics." ..."The microtubules are
themselves microscopic tubes made of proteins called tubulins. Each tubulin
individually seems to behave something like a switch, increasing neuronal
numerosity by something like 10,000m"

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Jibu, Mari, Hagan, Scott, Hameroff, Stuart R., Pribram, Karl H., Yasue,
Kunio. (1993, August 10) Quantum Optical Coherence in Cytoskeletal
Microtubules: Implications for Brain Function. BioSystems 32 (1994),
195-209.

"Abstract 'Laser-like,' long-range coherent quantum phenomena may occur
biologically within cytoskeletal microtubules. This paper presents a
theoretical prediction of the occurrence in biological media of the
phenomena which we term 'superradiance' and 'self-induced transparency'.
Interactions between the electric dipole field of water molecules confined
within the hollow core of microtubules and the quantized electromagnetic
radiation field are considered, and microtubules are theorized to play the
roles of non-linear coherent optical devices. Superradiance is a specific
quantum mechanical ordering phenomenon with characteristic times much
shorter than those of thermal interaction. Consequently, optical
signaling(and computation) in microtubules would be free from both thermal
noise and loss. Superradiant optical computing in networks of microtubules
and other cytoskeletal structures may provide a basis for biomolecular
cognition and a substrate for consciousness.

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Dyson, Freeman.(1997)Imagined Worlds.President and Fellows of Harvard
College. Acknowledgments.

"This book grew out of a set of lectures given in May 1995 at the Hebrew
University of Jerusalem... ...The idea of radiotelepathy first appeared, so
far as I know, in the science-fiction novel Last and First Men, written by
Olaf Stapledon, in 1931, ...in which the cells of a multicellular creature
communicate with each other by means of electric and magnetic fields... To
understand in depth what is going on in the brain, we need tools that can
fit inside or between the neurons and transmit reports of neural events to
receivers outside. ...observing instruments... with rapid response, high
band-width and high spacial resolution... We know that high-frequency
electromagnetic signals can be propagated through brain tissue for distances
of the order of centimeters. We know that microscopic generators and
receivers of electromagnetic radiation are possible. We know that modern
digital data-handling technology is capable of recording and analyzing the
signals emerging from millions of tiny transmitters simultaneously. ...We
need a technology that allows us to build and deploy large arrays of small
transmitters inside a living brain, just as integrated-circuit technology
allows us to build large arrays of small transistors on a chip of silicon.
...Radioneurology is in principle only an extension of the existing
technology of magnetic resonance imaging, which also used radio-frequency
magnetic fields to observe neural structures. A rough estimate based on the
available band-width indicates that a million transmitters could be
monitored through each patch of brain surface with size equal to the radio
wave-length. The factor of a million is the ratio between the radio
band-width, of the order of hundreds of millions of cycles per second, and
the band-width of a neuron, of the order of hundred of cycles..."

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Coyle, Anna (1992, Sept.14). Science and Technology: The Machine That
Watches You Think. Independent (London). Pg.14.

..."We are aiming to build up an image of where the current is flowing,
"says Dr. Steven Swithenby, director of the Biomagnetism group at Open
University... ...Squid is the acronym for superconducting quantum
interference device, and it measures magnetic flux or field extremely
accurately at ultra-low levels, such as the level reached when a group of
neurons in the brain is triggered. The device is made of a ring of
superconducting material, usually niobium metal, a few millimetres wide,
with a slice of insulator, a few atoms thick, sanwiched into the loop. when
an electric current is applied to this superconductor, the flowing current
generates a magnetic field around the wire loop. Inside the superconducting
loop this magnetic field is extremely sensitive to any changes in magnetism.
If a change in magnetic field is detected, the current flow in the Squid
changes to re-adjust the field strength to counter the external force. ...
"We can look at what is going on in the head, but it takes a lot of
mathematics to unscramble the whole mess so that we can make a sensible
image," Dr. Swithenby says. ...The magnetic field generated by the brain in
response to an external stimulus, and measured by the Squid, is about 100
millions times weaker than the Earth's magnetic field, and a million times
weaker than the magnetic fields around overhead power cables. ...A less
expensive and more practical approach, used at the Open University, is to
couple the Squid to another device known as a gradiometer. In effect the
gradiometer is a matched pair of (non-superconducting) magnetometers placed
between the Squid and the patient's head. One of the pair measures the
external magnetic field outside the brain, the other measured the total
field, including the contribution from the brain, and the difference between
the two is measured by the Squid....The so-called high -temperature
superconductors-metal oxides that can work at temperatures of up to 100
degrees above absolute zero- are the next stage in the development of
workable machines. ..."In three or four years' time, who knows what Squids
will be made of?"
Squids are not new: they were first postulated by the theoretical physicist
Anthony Leggett at the University of Illinois in the early Eighties.

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