From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 01:50:00 1999 Path: biosci!DMSNA.DMS.UNINA.IT!goy81 From: goy81@DMSNA.DMS.UNINA.IT Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: ADV: Photo Mousepads......These are cool! Date: 31 May 1999 19:50:44 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 117 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <19990531588YAA30338@heyemailsavestrees.csse.muroran-it.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net To be removed from our mailing list please call 800-242-0363 ext. 2759 This is a one time mailing and you will not receive another offer. Please click delete. GREAT GRADUATION GIFT IDEA! MOUSEPADS WITH YOUR FAVORITE PHOTOS! Need a new look for your desk? Need a new mousepad to go with your new computer? Now you can have your favorite photos printed onto mousepads! Photo mousepads are our most popular gift year after year! In the past we have provided our HIGH QUALITY mousepads to thousands of customers. 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Especially those headers: CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT I FOUND?, YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!, etc... For the Love of God, something must be done before I go insane! From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 14:25:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.amsterdam.nl.net!sun4nl!surfnet.nl!rug.nl!not-for-mail From: Hans-Christian Hege Newsgroups: sci.engr.biomed,sci.image.processing,sci.physics.research,bionet.biophysics,bionet.software Subject: JOB: Ph.D. scholarship at ZIB (Berlin, Germany) Date: 1 Jun 1999 15:10:33 GMT Organization: Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum (ZIB) Lines: 56 Approved: p.helbig@jb.man.ac.uk (sci.physics.research) Message-ID: <3752B2DD.975230C9@zib.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: gladia.astro.rug.nl Xref: biosci bionet.biophysics:5030 bionet.software:23537 Image Processing / Computational Geometry Graduate Fellowship Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin (ZIB) Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin (ZIB) invites students who are interested in pursuing a Ph.D. to apply for a fellowship in the Graduate Fellowship Program "Temperature Dependent Effects for Therapy and Diagnostics". 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From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 01:39:00 1999 Path: biosci!GATE.SINICA.EDU.TW!wstzou From: wstzou@GATE.SINICA.EDU.TW (Wen-shyong Tzou) Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: metal binding site for a nuclease Date: 1 Jun 1999 19:39:44 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 26 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Dear netters: I'm looking for a software to predict the potential metal binding sites (especially, Mg++) for a nuclease. (Although I doubt that when DNA substrate binds protein, location of Mg++ will be somewhat different). Any suggestion is welcome and appreciated. Best Regards. Wen-Shyong Tzou | Wen-Shyong Tzou | /~~\ Postdoctoral Fellow | * / / Laboratory for Biomolecular X-ray Crystallography / / \ Institute of Molecular Biology / / \ Academia Sinica, Nankang / * / | Taipei, Taiwan, ROC / / | Address: PO 1-99, Nankang, Taipei, Taiwan / | / <*> | | e-mail: wstzou@sinica.edu.tw \ / \ / | / |~| From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 04:05:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!136.167.2.7!delphi.bc.edu!news From: "J.W. Bizzaro" Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: Re: Spamming Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:57:29 +0000 Organization: Boston College Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3754B9B8.1E21DF17@bc.edu> References: <3753c8bd@news1.vtacs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shiv3p4.bc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en I feel your pain. And those headers are hilarious. They are obviously meant to get attention on some generic newsgroup. The moderator of this group should be deleting spam. But the problem exists throughout bionet. Can't someone at bionet just go through the groups every few days to get rid of these messages? gjenning wrote: > > In 2 days, accounts from the domain sssdfdf.org have sent 4 gibberish > messages and a spam porno ad. Is there any way at all to block the entire > domain from posting? This is supposed to be a biophysics group damnit and > this is really pissing me off. Especially those headers: CAN YOU BELIEVE > WHAT I FOUND?, YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!, etc... For the Love of > God, something must be done before I go insane! From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 14:40:00 1999 Reply-To: "Clive Delmonte" From: "Clive Delmonte" Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: DNA Structure: Puzzle #21 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:15:47 +0100 Lines: 35 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.7.225.26 Message-ID: <375527a2.0@news.netdirect.net.uk> X-Trace: 2 Jun 1999 13:46:26 GMT, 195.7.225.26 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!news-peer.netdirect.net.uk!news.netdirect.net.uk!195.7.225.26 Classical Chemistry of Monolayers Applied to Duplex DNA In 1953, James & Mazia (53) reported that 1 mg of dry calf thymus DNA could be spread in a monolayer to cover 0.28 sq. m. From this measurement, it is immediately possible to calculate the diameter of the DNA as it lies across the film surface. Calf thymus DNA, with 40% C+G base pairs, has an average mass of 330 daltons per base unit, and a base repeat distance of 0.334 nm, giving a helical diameter, measured across the surface film, of 1.2 nm. (The full calculation is available in (54)). James & Mazia measured the film height as 2.16 nm using an ellipsometer. So there are two independent determinations of the height and width of the duplex DNA as 1.2 nm x 2.1 nm, that is, DNA would have an elliptical cross section. The DNA molecular width in the film of 1.2 nm is close to that of 1.3 nm found by Lee et al. (Puzzle 1, ref 1) using STM on duplexes not under lateral compression, and to the value found by applying Stokes' equation (Puzzle 2, ref. 4) to Franklin's B-DNA photograph. ------------------------------------------------------------------ 53 Surface Films of Desoxyribonucleic Acid; T.W. James & D. Mazia; Biochim. Biophys. Acta Vol 10 (1953) 367 - 370 54 "Towards a New Structural Molecular Biology", by Clive Delmonte, ISBN 0 9512276 0 2 (1991), Appendix 1 (page 249) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Clive Delmonte E-mail: clived@ndirect.co.uk or: clivedelmonte@c-i-delmonte.freeserve.co.uk From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 16:09:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!news From: "NDRI/HBDI" Newsgroups: alt.bio.technology,alt.bio.technology.misc,bionet,bionet.biology,bionet.biophysics,bionet.cellbiol Subject: Autopsy, Surgical Discard and Transplantation Tissues for Now Available for Research Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:56:43 -0400 Organization: IDT (Best News In The World) Lines: 16 Message-ID: <7j3nqd$bcq@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-27.ts-1.ph.idt.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: biosci bionet.biophysics:5034 bionet.cellbiol:11898 See www.ndri.com for access to human tissues and organs for medical researchers See www.hbdi.org for information about family collections containing DNA and immortalized cells - over 600 families - for medical and genetic researchers NDRI and HBDI are non-profit organizations aiding medical research and the search for disease genes. From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Thu Jun 03 15:35:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!uchinews2!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!hub1.ispnews.com!cyc12.deja.bcandid.com!nntp1.deja.com!nnrp2.deja.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: Kresten Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: Re: Exact buffer calculations Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 08:24:38 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. Lines: 37 Message-ID: <7j5e41$ad5$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <7ir25a$hku$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.226.1.36 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jun 03 08:24:38 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 www2.crc.dk:3128 (Squid/2.1.RELEASE),NetCache@www-cache: Version 3.3.1, 1.0 x38.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 130.226.182.217, 130.226.1.36 In article <7ir25a$hku$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, klaus_frommerr@my-deja.com wrote: > Dear scientists, > > Can anyone of you recommend me relevant literature and/or software > programs (DOS/Win) for use with exact buffer calculations? Pls. check out: HTTP://www.bi.umist.ac.uk/users/mjfrbn/Buffers/bufintro.asp This leads you to a web-based buffer-calculation program, which allows you to enter species, pH, temp. (both prep. and use) and ionic stregth and then gives you a recipe. There is also a link to the book: Buffer Solutions: The basics Robert J Beynon & John S Easterby BIOS Scientific Publishers, Oxford, 1996, 84pp ISBN: 0 19 963442 4 Not sure that this may serve all your requests, but might be useful if you haven't seen the site before. HTH Kresten -- The address kresten@my-dejanews.com is for spambots only. Please mail me at LysLeuLeu@crc.dk , transforming the pre@-part into my initials. Kresten Lindorff Larsen, Dept. Yeast Genetics Carlsberg Laboratory, Denmark Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Thu Jun 03 20:39:00 1999 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!grolier!club-internet!not-for-mail From: "ciavatti" Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: nitrosomonas Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:29:45 +0200 Organization: Club-Internet (France) Message-ID: <7j6s6u$pts$1@front5.grolier.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: lorient-1-1.club-internet.fr X-Trace: front5.grolier.fr 928445470 26556 195.36.142.1 (3 Jun 1999 21:31:10 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Jun 1999 21:31:10 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Lines: 14 I search informations on oxydation of NH4+ by Nitosomonas : all pot Redox of electron transporteurs synthesis of ATP? What is the hydogen and electron accepteur? how does Nitrosomonas incorporate CO2? and also the same informations for chiomiotrophic bacteria using H2S with many thanks G. Ciavatti ciavatti@club-internet.fr http://perso.club-internet.fr/ciavatti/evolution/evolution.htm From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Thu Jun 03 22:07:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!awabi.library.ucla.edu!164.67.43.25!news.ucla.edu!not-for-mail From: "Kevin Klapstein" Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: Help regarding homology recognition by RecA Date: 3 Jun 1999 23:01:56 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Lines: 24 Message-ID: <01beae13$3716b800$1c9c8e95@gradlab_pc_2.biomath.medsch.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.142.156.28 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Hello; I'm currently studying RecA, and I'm interested in the homology recognition part of the strand exchange process. Particularly puzzling to us right now is how homology is recognized between two DNA molecules when one of them (the one bound to RecA) is extended by 50%. There are also some topological problem I am trying to work out that seem very stubborn. If anybody reading this has an interest in or knowledge about the homology recognition phase of RecA facilitated strand exchange and wouldn't mind talking to a confused graduate student for a little while, please drop me a line. Cheers, Kevin kklap@biomath.medsch.ucla.edu From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Fri Jun 04 14:50:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.nero.net!newshub.tc.umn.edu!news1.tc.umn.edu!kilian From: kilian@tropic.ece.umn.edu (Karland A Kilian) Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: FS: Two biophysics books Date: 4 Jun 1999 15:44:33 GMT Organization: Electrical Engineering, U of MN Lines: 16 Message-ID: <7j8s91$nfr$1@news1.tc.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tropic.ece.umn.edu Hello, I have two biophysics texts which I no longer need. They are as follows: Volume two of Biophysical Chemistry by Cantor and Schimmel. Spine has and cover have "used book" stickers on them. No highlighting. $25. Dynamics of Proteins and Nucleic Acids, McCammon and Harvey. Book is in like-new condition. $15. Please feel free to make a reasonable offer for one or both of these texts. Add $3 for shipping via USPS mail. Sincerely, From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Sat Jun 05 11:36:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.idt.net!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!hub1.ispnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!typhoon1.gnilink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Douglas Nicoll" Newsgroups: alt.bio.technology,alt.bio.technology.misc,bionet,bionet.biology,bionet.biophysics,bionet.cellbiol Subject: Human Tissues, Organs, DNA - Sometimes only the real thing can give the answers you need Lines: 23 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 12:31:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.204.210.29 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 928585863 151.204.210.29 (Sat, 05 Jun 1999 08:31:03 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 08:31:03 EDT Xref: biosci bionet.biophysics:5040 bionet.cellbiol:11917 See www.ndri.com for access to human tissues and organs for medical researchers See www.hbdi.org for information about family collections containing DNA and immortalized cells - over 600 families - for medical and genetic researchers NDRI - the National Disease Research Interchange and HBDI - the Human Biological Data Interchange are non-profit organizations From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Mon Jun 07 07:11:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.netcrusader.net!192.174.65.44!newscore.univie.ac.at!news.netcologne.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de!usenet From: "N. Klapka" Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: biophys-sites for studies Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:08:41 +0200 Organization: Heinrich Heine Universitaet Duesseldorf Lines: 14 Message-ID: <7jfuei$m1n@selena.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: isis210.urz.uni-duesseldorf.de X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Hello everyone, maybe someone could give me a hint where to find an educational program-site of biophysics..... I'm preparing for my exams and am desperately looking for good literature or www-sites. Subjects of interst are: geles, thermodynamics, kinetics (basics), protein and nucleid acid structure, spectroscopy and so on. Please, if you happen to know a good book (besides Cantor and Schimmel) write me! Thank You and bye, Nicole From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Mon Jun 07 16:08:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.nero.net!newshub.tc.umn.edu!news1.tc.umn.edu!kilian From: kilian@tropic.ece.umn.edu (Karland A Kilian) Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: FS: Cantor and Schimmel Volume II Date: 7 Jun 1999 17:03:09 GMT Organization: Electrical Engineering, U of MN Lines: 9 Message-ID: <7jgu0d$rnl$1@news1.tc.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tropic.ece.umn.edu Hello, I have volume 2 of Cantor and Schimmel's series on Biophysical Chemistry. It is used but in good condition, with no highlighting. I will sell it for $20, which includes shipping via USPS Priority Mail. Sincerely, Karland K. From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 01:15:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.225.159.2!news-out.uswest.net!nntp.dist.maricopa.edu!not-for-mail From: student Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: Re: biophys-sites for studies Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 19:03:16 -0700 Organization: MCCCD Message-ID: <375C79E4.6BD6E5D7@pvc.maricopa.edu> References: <7jfuei$m1n@selena.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: k103-18.pvc.maricopa.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Lines: 17 I haven't a clue. Good luck. "N. Klapka" wrote: > Hello everyone, > > maybe someone could give me a hint where to find an educational program-site > of biophysics..... > I'm preparing for my exams and am desperately looking for good literature or > www-sites. > Subjects of interst are: geles, thermodynamics, kinetics (basics), protein > and nucleid acid structure, spectroscopy and so on. > Please, if you happen to know a good book (besides Cantor and Schimmel) > write me! > Thank You and bye, > Nicole From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Wed Jun 09 12:16:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!howland.erols.net!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!news From: "NDRI/HBDI" Newsgroups: alt.bio.technology,alt.bio.technology.misc,bionet,bionet.biology,bionet.biophysics,bionet.cellbiol Subject: Human Tissues, Organs and DNA from Families for Medical Research Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:04:20 -0400 Organization: IDT (Best News In The World) Lines: 14 Message-ID: <7jlor0$75q@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-19.ts-1.ph.idt.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: biosci bionet.biophysics:5045 bionet.cellbiol:11944 See www.ndri.com for access to human tissues and organs for medical researchers See www.hbdi.org for information about family collections containing DNA and immortalized cells - over 600 families - for medical and genetic researchers NDRI and HBDI are non-profit organizations aiding medical research and the search for disease genes. From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Thu Jun 10 16:38:00 1999 Path: biosci!BILONG.COM!info From: info@BILONG.COM (BILONG Transgenics) Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: '99 ISAAST. Date: 10 Jun 1999 10:38:42 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 253 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <375FF600.C19016B5@bilong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net '99 International Symposium on Aging and Antiaging Science & Technology (with EXHIBITION) September 8-12, 1999 Beijing, China Scientific Sessions 1. Biological Science 2. Clinical & Experimental Medicine 3. Health Care for the Elderly 4. Traditional Chinese Medicine in Aging & Antiaging Invited Speakers: I. 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Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics,bionet.biophysics,cu.physics.ugrads,sci.med.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,uiuc.org.biophysics,ut.physics.general Subject: Understanding Gibb's Free Energy Equation Lines: 21 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:06:17 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.33.92 X-Trace: news.inreach.com 929127827 209.142.33.92 (Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:03:47 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:03:47 PDT Organization: InReach Internet Would YOU be so kind as to enlighten me with respect to understanding the concept called, Gibb's Free Energy Equation which I have been told reads: DG = DH - TDS . Specifically, what do each of these terms represent and also what concepts are embodied in this statement, please? I am a retired zoologist who has not encountered this equation/concept heretofore which explains why I have probably committed what is generally considered a faux pas by engaging in what I recently found out to be something called "trolling". If I have offended anybody, this was definitely NOT the intent. I have submitted this query to any and all of you good folks, whose newsgroup title indicates to my untrained eye, that you might have a handle on this concept since I have no appreciation for which newsgroup is best suited to this task. I trust that my sincerity and an honest search for enlightenment overshadows any seeming error of manners. Thank you for your indulgence. Please feel free to take me by the hand and lead me through this concept in as much nit-picking detail as you think warranted. I shall not be offended; on the contrary, I shall be very grateful for your caring attention to detail. Regards, Neal W. Welsh From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Sat Jun 12 15:36:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!newshost.nmt.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!gondor!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!fu-berlin.de!news.uni-potsdam.de!newsadm From: "Frank Fürst" Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics,bionet.biophysics,cu.physics.ugrads,sci.med.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,uiuc.org.biophysics,ut.physics.general Subject: Re: Understanding Gibb's Free Energy Equation Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 18:30:18 +0200 Organization: University of Potsdam Lines: 156 Message-ID: <37628B1A.46AF487A@rz.uni-potsdam.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pc207-60.biochem.uni-potsdam.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [de]C-QXW0310E (Win95; I) Neal W. wrote: > > Would YOU be so kind as to enlighten me with respect to understanding > the concept called, Gibb's Free Energy Equation which I have been told > reads: DG = DH - TDS . Specifically, what do each of these terms > represent and also what concepts are embodied in this statement, please? I > am a retired zoologist who has not encountered this equation/concept Well. Quite a basic thing for me, indeed, and not easy to explain in simple words. Furthermore, I've learned my physical chemistry lessons in german, so some technical terms might not be right - but the principle is valid in every language ;-) The talk is about the energy needed or "produced" by physical, chemical and, in principle, every process in nature. Why is it worth talking about energy, also if one isn't interested in heat changes? It's because every system tends to adopt a state where its energy is lowest. On the other hand, and more basically, it tends to adopt a state of maximum _entropy_ S. You can imagine entropy to be something quite like disorder. Imagine a child's ball falling on the ground and hopping up and down. Every time it looses kinetic energy, and flies up less high than the time before. But energy cannot be destroyed, it is just converted: to brownian motion, to the internal heat of the ball and the ground. Thus, the law of conservation of energy applies. Now one could say: With only this law of conservation of energy, a warm ball on warm ground could just by chance start hopping up and down and fly away, thereby cooling the ground and itself. Of course it won't. It will not, because the system prefers the energy to be in the disordered brownian motion of its molecules, not in the ordered motion of (all the molecules together of ) the ball relative to the ground. Thus, entropy ("disorder") tells us in which direction this, and any, process will occur: Entropy will alway increase. No if one considers a completely closed chemical (or physical) system, the only thing that allows us to say in which direction (i.e., from hopping to resting ball or opposite) a process will occur is to look at the entropy of the system: It will always increase (or stay constant, then nothing happens). But if the system is not completely closed, its own entropy can indeed decrease, but only if the entropy of its surroundings increases to a larger extent. Considering the ensemble of the system and its surroundings together, one gets again increasing entropy. But this is often not practicable. One wants to talk about what's happening in a test tube, not about the whole lab. The only possibility a system has to decrease its own entropy by increasing that of the surroundings is: Transfer energy (thermal, kinetic, electric, chemical etc.) to the surroundings thereby heating them. This energy is called enthalpy H. Thus, if one wants to look at the system alone, one has to consider the system's entropy _and_ the energy it transfers to the surroundings. The first thing one could think of was to write: DeltaS(everything) = DeltaS(system)+DeltaS(energy transfer) (The Delta is just because no one can measure absolute values of S, H, G, and only the changes upon a process have to be considered) But additionally, energies and heat changes can be measured, whereas entropy changes can only be asigned through indirect processes of measurement and calculation. Therefore it's simpler to express the same in terms of energies. The mathematics and definitions are perhaps not too important now, the outcome is: DeltaG = DeltaH - T DeltaS a) G is Gibbs' Free Energy, H is enthalpy, S is entropy. T is the absolute temperature, i.e. the temperature in Kelvin, where 1K = 1°C, but 0°C=273K, and 0 K is the lowest temperature possible: no brownian motion at all. b) The Temperature T comes from the observation that the entropy change DeltaS upon transfering q calories of thermal energy Q to a reservoir (surroundings) of temperature T is: DeltaS = q/T assuming that this reservoir is big enough not to change temperature. c) The minus before T DeltaS is because systems "want" maximum entropy, but minimum of energy (like the kinetic energy in the example with that ball). The miracle of this equation, and the most important thing, is, that now all these values (DeltaG, H, S) can be assigned _to_the_system_, and the surroundings no longer have to be considered. Thus, by measuring these values under different conditions, one can then predict the state in that a system will end: The chemical equilibrium. For example, one can calculate how high the temperature may be when synthesizing ammonia from H2 and N2 - from some point on, the process turns around and ammonia is depleted. Or what voltage one gets when building a battery out of two electrochemical elements. Or how much (or less...) of Ag+ and Cl- ions will stay in solution when you precipitate AgCl by mixing solutions of AgNO3 and NaCl. This equation is very basic, and very important. But there are also quite a bit of very important things it does not tell us: 1. It doesn't tell us about the reaction rates, that is: How fast will that process be, or will it start at all if we don't heat it? (Perhaps you know that diamond, despite beeing hard, chemically stable, nice and expensive, is metastable, and when you heat it over the limit, it becomes graphite, and one gets back all the energy used for heating and more - graphite is the state of lower G.) 2. It doesn't tell us what strange things can happen to a system that is far from equilibrium. And this is probably very important to you as a biologist. Biological systems are always far from equilibrium. They always take up matter and energy (in the form of nutrition, or sun) and use ist to be active, to produce things, and reproduce. But the animal or plant itself doesn't change (much). One says that biological system are in a steady state. This is the most simple and most common possibility for a system out of equilibrium (one other is to be trapped, because of too less activation energy, like in the case of diamond). In the steady state, there's a constant turnover of reactants (e.g., glucose or ATP in an organism), the concentration of these reactants beeing constant (for Glucose, see below), and only the source material (e.g. starch) beeing depleted and the concentrations of final products (e.g. CO2) increasing. But there's more: In biological systems, one can observe oscillations and regulation (e.g. for glucose), which can in principle also be explained by physical chemistry (but only in principle, with some exceptions). All these things can NOT be treated by thermodynamics and its basic equation, the Gibbs' Free Energy Equation. One needs kinetics, and the so-called non-equilibrium thermodynamics. Hope this helps Frank P.S. The right book to look in is a basic textbook of physical chemistry, e.g. that of P.W. Atkins (there's even two of him, one is shorter.) -- Frank Fuerst, Institute of Biochemistry of Potsdam University Im Biotechnologiepark, D-14943 Luckenwalde Tel.: +49-3371-681334; Fax.: +49-3371-681339 ffrank@rz.uni-potsdam.de ************************************************************* Hi! I'm Signature Virus 99! Copy me into your signature and join the fun! 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I reply to all emails that are sent, and I would appreciate your comments and suggestions) From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Tue Jun 22 04:35:00 1999 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!139.130.250.2!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!nsw.nntp.telstra.net!news.syd.connect.com.au!news.bri.connect.com.au!corolla.OntheNet.com.au!not-for-mail From: Darren Manning <" Darrenrtrt"@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: bionet.biophysics Subject: The truth about the future revealed Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:41:14 -0700 Organization: Customer of On the Net : Internet on the Gold Coast (Australia) Lines: 532 Message-ID: <3770110A.28B6@hotmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts-gc-8-p31.onthenet.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) THE TRUTH ABOUT DANIEL AND REVELATION Most christians at this time believe the futurist view of Daniel and Revelation.. For example, they believe there will be a 7 year tribulation, (involving a middle east peace treaty), a political anti -christ will arise, and there will be a rebuilding of the Jewish temple. This doctrine is totally false. The man who brought futurism into existence in the church was Fransisco Ribera, a Roman Catholic jesuit. . The purpose of futurism as a doctrine was to destroy the work of the great protestant reformation. The protestant view of Daniel and Revelation was so clear that many of the great reformers predicted many world events that happened to the day. For example, Josiah Litch predicted that on August 11, 1840, the Ottoman Empire would come to an end , and it did. (The bible speaks of this as the 6th trumpet with "hour, day month and year "= 360 + 30 + 1 + 1/24 of a day + 391 years and 15 days from the first Ottoman invasions on the Roman empire until the surrender of the Ottoman Turks to the great Christian powers) A Hugenot pastor ;after the Protestant reformation ,predicted ;that in 1798 the Papacy would come to an end for a short time. ("The beast receives a deadly wound: "Rev 13:3.)(Rev 13 - the beast that ruled for 1260 days, from 538 - 1798), and it did. (Napoleans general, Berthier ,took the Pope captive to France in 1798,exactly 1260 years after the begining of Papal rule in Europe) Many protestant reformers knew that the invasions by the Saracen turks were the fulfillment of The fifth trumpet - "torment men for five months," five months = 30 x 5 = 150 years, 1299 - 1449. Another clear prophecy was that a revolution would happen in France at the close of the 18th century, (around the end of the 1260 days, 538 - 1798, ). and that after this revolution ;the gospel would go out to all the world .Chapter 11 of Revelation. (The French revolution) Another prophecy ,by the Wesley brothers ,was that America would grow to be the greatest nation on earth, ( Starting at the fall of the first beast, The Papacy, ) The symbol of America in Revelation 13 was of a lamblike beast, (christian, ) This second beast was to spring up and grow to speak like a dragon. (chapter 13 of Revelation).Charles Wesley said "He is not here yet,but he is not far away" (Speaking about the second lamb-like beast of Revelation ,Knowing that the 1260 day/years were coming to an end). This is when the lamb-like beast was to arise ,at the deadly wound of the first beast (the papacy) Around 1798ad. These prophecies in Daniel and Revelation are very clear when you understand the principles of the historicist view: , a view that sustained faith ,as time revealed each period .The first principle says that in prophecy, a day stands for a year, (Ezekial 4:6). (Daniel 9:25 ). Let us take the common misconception that there will be a 7 year tribulation and a peace treaty will be signed "in the midst of the week. by a political anti-christ.(Daniel .9:27)The verses preceeding this ;reveal that this prophecy is actually about Jesus. "Seventy weeks (heptads)are determined upon your people to put an end to sin to seal up prophecy and annoint the most holy". The 70 weeks = 70 x 7 = 490 years, with a day for a year. "You are to know and understand that from the going forth of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, (457BC), until Messiah, (Jesus), will be 62 weeks plus 7 weeks". The 62 + 7 = 69 weeks or 69 x 7 = 483 years. Daniel 9:24-27. Decree to restore Jerusalem = (457BC) To put an end to sin = 490 years Until Messiah = 483 years 457bc + 483 years (Messiah) = 27AD when Jesus was baptised and was recognised as the messiah.(messiah means annointed). 457bc + 490 years (Gospel goes to the Gentiles and the Jews are rejected) = 34AD, (the stoning of Stephen). "In the midst of the week, (27AD - 34AD), he will put an end to sacrifice". 31AD is the midst of the week, when Jesus was crucified and He caused the old testament sacrifices to cease. These scriptures are all in the same chapter and are all part of the context of the verse.(It is easy to see that to add a political anti-christ to these chapters does not make any sense.) The day for a year principle stands because if it were not true, the messiah would have come a literal 69 weeks after the decree in 457BC, which he did not. I will show you how the great reformers knew how world events would happen and what is to come. The word week comes from the Hebrew: heptad(meaning a period of seven,and read this way is much easier to understand.).eg "70 periods of seven are determined on your people."( 70 *7 = 490 years to put an end to sin (for the Jewish people ) "Will be 62 periods of 7 and 7 periods of 7 ( 69*7 =483 years until messiah). Most of us know that the statue in Daniel chapter 2 , and the animals in chapter 7 stood for future world empires, eg. Babylon, Medes/Persian, Greece and Rome and then the toes and horns stood for the ten nations of Europe. (The prophecy said that these countries were like "iron and clay, they would come together with the seed of men but would not cleave together, and that they were to come together for a short time, to give there power and authority to the beast")The iron nations were the strong ones, England, Germany and France, the clay nations were the weaker ones, Denmark, Holand and Belgum. We see now Europe coming together as a new super-state, to give its power and authority to the beast. This will be only for a " short time" .Throughout history men such as Napolean and Hitler have tried to bring Europe together and many of the royal families have tried the same idea through inter-marriage ("with the seed of men")but as the prophecy makes clear (They would not cleave together"). The little horn that came up and ruled for 42 months, 1260 days and a time, times and dividing of times,(out of the ten horns ) was the Papacy. This began in 538 and ended in 1798 when Bertheir, Napoleans general ;took the pope captive. (1260 years later). The little horn was to receive its power and seat and authority from the terrible beast (Rome). This is exactly what happened as the Papacy was the only power left in Europe at the fall of the last Emporers. The Papacy was to "uproot three horns",This prophecy was fullfilled when the first Pope destroyed the Ostrogoths, Herulli and the Goths, three of the barbarian tribes that made up the nations of Europe. The churches, seals and trumpets have happened across Europe. The churches were 7 distinct ages. The seals changed from white horse, (purity), red horse, (persecution), up until the sixth seal; Great events were seen across Europe and America, eg. Lisbourne earthquake, the sun going black and the great star shower of 1833, ("and the sixth seal opened and there was a great earthquake. .."). The trumpets were invasions first by barbarians and then Islamic tribes throughout Europe. The churches ,seals and trumpets revealed the condition of the church from within, from the outside and from the view of military conquests. Chapter 11 of Revelation described the French revolution - Babylon was seen as the spiritual confusion in Europe and the street of the great city was France : The Gauls were the first of the invading tribes to be converted to Roman Catholicism. (The reason God used the French revolution in Revelation is fairly clear.This revolution was the begining of the end for monarchies around the world.From this time onwards the Republican form of government gained ground in every part of the world.) It also left us a strong message as to what the fruit of the rejection of Christ will be. Men such as Pol Pot and Lennin were trained at French universities and the countries of Syria ,Lebanon ,Lybia and Vietnam were French administered nations before there independance. Will we here what the spirit says to the churches about our nations. One of the great reformers of the reformation said that , after the 1260 day prophecy had ended a power would rise up in France that would be against God. ("Rev 11:7 After the 1260 days of there testimony in sack-cloth is finished , a beast rises up out of the bottomless pit and kills them, and there bodies lie in the street of the great city for three and one half days)"It would last for 3 and 1 half years and then after this the bible would go out into all the world.He knew this because the prophecy said that Gods two witnesses (the old and new testaments )would be killed and lie in the street of the great city for three and a half prophetic days . After the 1260 years of Papal rule had finished (538-1798) the worst part of the French revolution began. The bible was banned in France for three and a half years. After the terrors of the revolution the people of France called for the re-introduction of public worship. The bible was then translated from three to over one hundred languages ;and went out to the whole world through the great missionary movements The second beast of Revelation 13 was believed to be America. (Some famous people who beleived the Historisist view were,Sir Isacc Newton,Martin Luther, John Knox, Latimer ,Ridley and the Wesley brothers)In fact most Protestants accepted the historicist view.Futurism(which is a common beleif in the church today )was rejected by most serious bible beleiving people as an attempt by Rome to destroy the belief that the catholic system was anti-christ . (See the begining of the letter to King James in the King James bible) To counter these claims, the jesuit Ribera founded futurism to destroy any belief that the Papacy was anti-christ. So what of the future? "The deadly wound would heal and the whole world shall worship the beast". America, the second beast, is to set up an image or replica to the papacy. The little horn (The Papacy) was to make alteration in time and in law. The Papacy, by changing the 4th commandment, did this.The 4th commandment is to keep the sabbath holy. The papacy changed the sabbath of Saturday to Sunday. (Think to make alteration in time and law .Daniel 7:25 ).Again to bring pagans into the church ,who already held Sunday as a sacred day.(Please read my file protcath.doc that shows that most Protestant accept that the ten commandments still stand and that Saturday is the bible Sabbath). To make an image to the first beast, America must change it's great principles of religious liberty and enforce Sunday as a day of worship. (As Rome did in Europe). The Pentecostal Sunday Coalition has become very powerful in government and is lobbying strongly to have these laws enforced. Remember that the remnant will be "those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". In the final drama, those who worship the papacy as opposed to taking the seal of God, will receive the 7 last plagues. The angels come out from the temple in heaven where the 10 commandments are kept, and pour out these plagues on a rebellious world. It is very difficult to explain this fully in a short letter. I just hope you remember that futurism theology is false . Some believe that the mark on the right hand or forhead will be a computer chip, and that the worship of the beast and his image is enforced Sunday worship. (Revelation gives us a clue that buying and selling will be impossible for those who receive the mark of the beast.It seems that cash must be abolished and a new system set up.Maybe this is why we are seeing a move toward a cashless society). It is important to remember both of these and look out for them in the future. You can find the historicist view of Revelation at any Adventist church. I hope you look into this and see for yourself as we are playing out the final drama in the world's history, and to believe what is deliberately false could put us in danger of great deception. (Remember even if you do not accept the historicist view,futurism is still a false theology.) "And Satan went off to make war against her offspring, those those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". Rev 12:17 , Rev 14:12. If you have trouble with the fact that you have been deceived by the doctrines of Rome,remember the words of the young John Calvin ."I will have none of your new doctrine,think you ,that i have lived in error all my days".Calvin eventually went on to be one of the great defenders of the reformed faith. THE GREAT PROPHECIES OF DANIEL AND REVELATION EXPANDED The prophecies of Daniel and Revelation are not really difficult to understand.Most of the symbols are from the old testament or are explained in the same chapters.The bible must be left to interpret itself.(I have read many books where the white horse of Revelation is a symbol of a future political anti-christ.White is not a symbol of evil,no matter how much we would like these doctrines to fit our own interpretations) eg. A rider on a white horse:We know by old testament symbols that white is a symbol of purity.This is clear and does not need much explanation.(Later in Revelation Jesus appears on a white horse,) In Revelation 13 the beast described comes out of the sea.Later in chapter 17 of Revelation sea's are described as nations and multitudes and tongues.The other beast (lamb-like,America)comes up out of the earth. The earth is a symbol of a wilderness or desolate area. A beast is always used as a symbol of a power or country. A woman is always a symbol of a church. The book of Revelation is meant to be understood but instead has been treated as an obscure book that no-one can make sense of. I hope after reading this document you never feel this way again. THE FUTURE WORLD EMPIRES........... Daniel chapter 2 and 7:The prophecies of the worlds future empires. The symbols used here were later named by Daniel in the exact order of there rise and fall.The prophecy leaves no doubt who they are. The lion and the head of the statue:Babylon. The bear and the breast and arms of silver :Medes and Persians .The bear has three ribs in its mouth,these are symbols of the medes and persian three great conquests. (Babylon,Lyidia,and Egypt.) In chapter eight of Daniel the symbols are of the battles between the Medes/Persians and Greece.The ram(Medes/Persians) had two horns,one horn was larger than the other(This is symbolic of Persia being stronger than the Medes part of the empire)The ram butted north ,south and west(This was the directions of this empires conquests .The he-goat that battles the ram comes from the West(Greece)The he-goat had a prominent horn(Alexander the great).The prominent horn is broken and replaced by four other horns.(After the death of Alexander his Generals murdered his family and divided Greece up into four empires.Daniel 8:20 explains all this clearly.We really dont have to be mistaken about bible prophecy.Remember Jesus said in Revelation 1:1 That he was to show his servant what was to take place.( it would be clear,not hidden). Satan would have you beleive that Revelation and Daniel are impossible to understand. The symbols in the old and new testaments are consistant across the whole Bible and once recognised you will always be able to interpret them. eg A beast= A power or country. Leopard and the belly and thighs of bronze: Greece. The leopard has four wings these stand for Alexanders generals who took over the Greek empire after his death. (Alexander the Great). The dreadfull beast and the legs of iron and clay :Rome . The dreadfull beast has ten horns these are the ten nations of Europe that came out of the Barbarian invasions of imperial Rome .The ten toes on the statue are also symbolised here. THE LITTLE HORN.... ...THE PAPACY The little horn :This power symbolized the Papacy ,which was to rule Europe for 1260 years (538-1798). This little horn was to receive his power and authority from the dreadfull beast.(This means that this cannot be about some future anti-christ.The Roman Catholic Church received its power and authority from pagan Rome when the last emporers fell). THE 69 AND 70 WEEK PROPHECIES.....JESUS CRUCIFIED IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK The 69& 70 week prophecies of Daniel. (Daniel 9:24-27). This was the prophecy of the Messiah and the rejection of the Jewish people : 69*7=483 years and 70*7=490 years. 457 bc was when the commandment to restore and rebuild jeruselam by Artexerses was given. The two dates reach untill 27 ad and 34 ad. The midst of the week (Heptad) was 31ad when Jesus was cut off and put and end to the old testament animal sacrifices. (This scripture is often believed to be about a future political antichrist who rebuilds the temple in Jerusalem. It was made up to take all eyes off Rome, the real antichrist. (Antichrist means:In place of christ) 457bc...........408bc....................................... .................................27ad.........31ad..........34ad (483 and 490 years ) (midst of the ) week Another part of the prophecy in this chapter of Daniel pointed to the rebuilding of Jerusalem and the temple in 408bc. "In the seven weeks(The first seven weeks that were part of the 62 and 7 weeks until the messiah) it will be built again(Jerusalem and the temple) in times of affliction."(After the captivity in Babylon by the returning exiles under Nehemiah and Ezra) This prophecy took place when the exiles returned under much oposition. The following prophecy was given several hundred years before the birth of Cyrus ;the Persian leader who took Babylon captive ,leading to the return from exile of the Jewish people.The prophecy said that "the doors of brass would be opened."This happened as the gates of Babylon were left open by a drunken guard , allowing the armies of Cyrus to take Babylon without blood. Isiah 45:1 said "Thus says the lord to Cyrus my annointed whose right hand i hold to subdue nations before him and to loose the loins of kings and to open the gates before him.I will shatter the doors of brass and cut apart the bars of iron. This took place after Chapter six of Daniel were the King of Babylon drank out of the holy vassels from the temple in Jerusalem.The writing appeared on the wall saying "You have been weighed in the scales and found wanting, Your kingdom shall be given to the Medes and Persians. THE 2300 DAY PROPHECY.......... .THE SANCTUARY IS TO BE CLEANSED. The 2300 day/year prophecy. (Daniel 8:14) This is the longest time prophecy in the bible and is part of the other prophecies from 457bc. The 2300 days/years ; started from the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem(457bc) ,and reached down to 1844 ad. (I know,somtimes this can be hard to accept. The fact is though ;that during the 19th century,most of the church believed the 2300 day prophecy ;although there were different interpretations of what the cleansing of the sanctuary meant).eg The coming of Christ,The destruction of the world. The prophecy said"Unto 2300 days and the sanctuary will be cleansed". (Daniel) The sanctuary was the true one in heaven (Moses was to build a pattern of the true tabernacle in heaven")and this was the archtype of the begining of the worlds day of attonement. This was the begining of the time of the end in Daniel where the sealed books would be opened. Movements were raised up by God in America and Europe that began to teach Daniel and Revelation.These were totally independant of each other. (Before the year 1844 only 2 or 3 people taught on the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation.)When this date came around ,the number of teachers and churches who taught this started to number in the hundreds.William Miller was a farmer who God raised up to preach the message of the 2300 day prophecy. Miller began his preaching in 1813 and was present at the time of the great star shower of 1833; that was a fullfillment of the sixth seal .God had ordered events to give impact to Millers words.The trouble was that with the rejection of this light ;many churches fell into darkness on these issues;and were open to other doctrines ;such as futurism. At this time these movements began to teach the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation with an emphasis on Revelation 14.This was a three fold message: To fear God and give him glory because the hour of his judgement has come.(Laodecia the last church age means "A people judged, "unto 2300 days and the sanctuary will be cleansed) and "worship him who made heaven and earth and the waters." Rev 14:7 (This was a pointer to Genesis and the seventh day sabbath as opposed to Papal Sunday worship). To come out of Babylon (False religion. Babylon means confusion and stands for churches that are a mixture of truth and error.Most churches today contain elements of the doctrines of Rome) Do not take the mark of the beast or worship his image.(An image is a replica of the first beast: The Papacy.) This was the begining of the Laodecia church period. THE CHURCHES THE SEALS AND THE TRUMPETS THE CHURCHES......(Each name matches the period of each church and the scriptures are messages to the people in each time period.) The churches seals and trumpets were the history of the church from the begining to the end. Ephesus :33ad-100ad . The church of the apostles (lost there first love toward the end :100 ad). The Nicolations described in the book of Revelation were a group who believed that freedom in Christ meant that the ten commandments were no longer binding.The name means to lord it over the people. (Nicolations) Somthing a true pastor will never do. (The name Ephesus means a sweet thing: A good description of the first church period). Smyrna :100ad- 323 ad . The persecuted church : They were to have tribulation ten days.This ten days (counting a day for a year ) began in 313 ad and ended in 323 .ad This was the worst period of church persecution under Rome. The name Smyrna means :a wearing away .A fitting symbol of this church age. Pergamos :323ad-538ad- .The church of compromise.The name means :the high place of the people ,and is a fitting symbol of this church age.After the persecution of the Smyrna church this period came to an end under Constantine who favoured Christianity.This was a dangerous time for the church as the early persecutions kept the church pure ,now Christians were tempted to fall for the ease and luxury of the world. Thiatira :538ad-1650 ad .The dark ages-.Thiatira for its sins were to be cast into great tribulation. This was the time when the Roman Catholic Church was to wear out the saints of the most high. (Daniel),and think to make alteration in time and law ,(the Papacy did this by changing the sabbath of Saturday to Sunday.)200 million martyrs lost there lives to this apostate system. In 1517 Martin Luther began his protest against Rome. Seven years later in 1524 the Jesuits were formed to counter the work of the reformation. Part of this work was to destroy the beleif that the Papal system was anti-christ. This was done through false doctrines such as futurism and the murder of bible translators who tried to bring the bible to the common people by freeing it from the Latin tongue .( "My two witnesses shall prophecy in sackcloth for 1260 days" Revelation 11:3 ......538-1798 : The two witnesses were the old and new testaments , sack-cloth is a symbol of mourning ) . They were also to be thrown upon a sick bed(Revelation)..This literally happened ;as great plagues destroyed Europe.Symbols were Jezebel who married king Ahab.This is very fitting as like Jezebel the Catholic Church leaned upon the sword of the state to enforce its dogma. During this period,there was no advancment in society . There were only small pockets of resistance to Rome.The Waldenses were one of these groups who kept the true faith alive in the Piedmont mountains for over one thousand years. The work of this church laid the seeds of the great Protestant Reformation.Members of the Piedmont church sent there people out into Europe to open the scriptures to the common people. Many were martyred for there fidelity to God. The scriptures tell us in Revelation 12 ,that " The woman fled into the wilderness were she was nourished by God for 1260 days. (The 1260 days are the same period. eg 1260 years :538ad-1798ad )"(A pure woman is a symbol of the church of God .A whore is a symbol of an apostate church.) Sardis :1650ad-1750ad . The post reformation church. "They had a name that they were alive ,but were really dead." After the great Protestant reformation shook the world ,the church failed to seek new light after the death of men such as Luther ,Calvin .ect.The church fell into stale formalism. They only had "a name for being alive." John Robertson ,a pastor of the Puritan church,in his farewell address to the pilgrams that left for the new world(America) said " For my part i cannot sufficently bewail the condition of the reformed churches, who are come to a period in religion, and will go at present no farther than the instruments of there reformation .The Lutherans cannot be drawn to go beyond what Luther saw ;and the Calvanists you see ,stick fast where they were left by that great man of God , who yet saw not all things". Philladelphia :1750-1844 .Name means brotherly love and fits the time well. This was the time of the Salvation Army,penal reforms and missions to the world.Also the time of the church anti slavery movements.In Revelation Jesus says to them"i will keep you from the hour of tribulation that is to come on the whole world." and " I set before you an open door that no man can shut". The open door was for the great missionary movements that went to places such as India and Africa. We see the fruit of this today as many churches are sending missionaries to these countries . (They were not in the time of the great tribulation that the last church must face. )Which leads us to......... Laodecia:1844ad-to the end . The name means a people judged.This is the begining of the period in Daniel"unto 2300 days and the sanctuary will be cleansed.".(The cleansing of the sanctuary was the putting away of the sins of Gods people before the great day of atonement.....Yom Kippur.This is the longest time period in the bible.The 2300 day/years begins in 457 bc at the command o f Artexerses to "restore and rebuild Jerusalem "and ends in 1844 ad ,2300 years later.This was to be the type of the begining of the day of atonment. In Europe and America movements were raised up independant of each other preaching the message of Revelation 14.These three messages were to "Fear God and give him glory for the hour of his judgement has come" (Laodecia:A people judged)That Babylon (false religion) has fallen (This is exactly what happened in 1844),and not to take the mark of the Catholic system(The beast) . The angel in Revelation 14 was to take this message to every nation and tongue.There was great joy in the churches ;for those that accepted this message.Things were different for the churches that rejected the message of the soon coming of Christ.The change in the church was noticed from this year onward .A writer in the religous telescope said"We have never witnessed such a general declension of religion as at the present.Truly the church should awake, and search into the cause of this affliction " . In the month of Feburary, 1844 ,Professor Finney of Oberlin college remarked "The spiritual apathy is almost all -pervading and is fearfully deep."The religous press of the day said "The churches have gone very far from the lord; and he has withdrawn himself from them".The result of the rejection of light that God sends is just as the days of Christ,when the Jewish leaders rejected him and sought an earthly kingdom.All was not lost though.Fifty thousand persons withdrew from the churches of the day and the soon coming of Christ was preached to the world.In Revelation chapter 7 the angels hold back the winds of destruction until the servants of God are sealed. This was also the message that went along with the preaching of Revelation chapter 14. This period was known as the time of the end in Daniel where "the books would be opened."Daniels little book had been sealed until this time.Now an understanding of Revelation and Daniel began to spread across the world. Jesus says to Laodecia that "he is the faithfull and true witness" .,Many false witnesses were raised up at this time.In 1846 the modern u.f.o. flaps began.This is the same time that the modern spiritualist movement grew into the modern new age movement.Darwins theory of evolution was also released upon the world and in 1848 the communist manifesto was born.It is no coincidence that these beleif systems came about just as the sealed books ( Daniel and Revelation) were to be opened. Satan had a false witness to cater for all tastes. In history we always see the work of these two opposing kingdoms. Recently when the book, "The Bible Code" was released, the biggest u.f.o. sighting was seen over Phoenix, Arizona, drawing attention away from Gods message to the world. Laodecia thought it was "rich and in need of nothing ,"but was in reality wreatched ,blind and naked.Jesus counsels them to by gold refined in the fire ,or character that comes about by tribulation and a knowledge of God and his beauty and greatness.Beleif in such Catholic doctrines such as eternal torment have turned millions away from the God of all love and light.. (See my file hell .doc ,and what men such as Martin Luther beleived about eternal torment and the state of the dead)." That monstrous fable of a dunghill of decretals".... Martin Luther. Dont you find it strange that the beleif in eternal torment seems so clear to many churches and those who reject it are seen as liberal and attacking the fundementals of the bible, yet the first Protestant, Martin Luther did not beleive it ? . With a study of the scriptures you will find that this doctrine has no basis in the bible. I know this thought is very difficult. We are told we have an immortal soul... Yet the bible says that Jesus Christ alone posseses immortality. When satan is thrown into the lake of fire this is the second death , not the second life. We are to fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. . Destroy means to destroy.Job tells us that " the dead they know in Revelation. From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Tue Jun 22 06:45:00 1999 Message-ID: <376F3DBE.41C6@biocfebs.unizh.ch> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:39:42 +0200 From: "Dr. Peer Mittl" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SGoldC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX64 6.4 IP30) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: bionet.molbiol.proteins,bionet.xtallography,bionet.biophysics,sci.edu CC: mittl@biocfebs.unizh.ch Subject: PhD studentship in Zürich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.60.168.85 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.60.168.85 X-Trace: 22 Jun 1999 09:39:42 +0100, 130.60.168.85 Organization: University of Zurich Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!newsfeed.tli.de!news.algonet.se!algonet!f.de.uu.net!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-zh.switch.ch!rzunews1.unizh.ch!130.60.168.85 Lines: 25 Xref: biosci bionet.xtallography:4790 bionet.biophysics:5073 A PhD studentship is immediately available in the field of protein crystallography at the Biochemical Institute located at the University of Zürich. 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