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In article <7tnldc$s1k$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  kurtullman@sprintmail.com (Kurt Ullman) wrote:
>        I am a freelance writer. I am currently working on an article
that
> would include examples of how cardiology programs are integrating
> complimentary/alternative medicine in primary and secondary
prevention of CAD.
>         Anybody know of any place to look for programs specifically
on CAD?
> Thanks for any help you can give me.

You might try contacting the Dr. Robert Atkins of the Atkins Center for
Complementary Medicine in NYC (Manhattan 212 area code.) He may also
have a web site. He's a cardiologist and runs a huge practice.
I hope this helps.

William Kelley Eidem, coauthor "It's Not Just For Sex!"
----------------------------------------
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Contact Dr. L. E. Teichholz, chief of Cardiology at Hackensack
University Hospital in NJ.  He seems to have just such a program. 
Amanda

enyafan1@my-deja.com wrote:
> 
> In article <7tnldc$s1k$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
>   kurtullman@sprintmail.com (Kurt Ullman) wrote:
> >        I am a freelance writer. I am currently working on an article
> that
> > would include examples of how cardiology programs are integrating
> > complimentary/alternative medicine in primary and secondary
> prevention of CAD.
> >         Anybody know of any place to look for programs specifically
> on CAD?
> > Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> You might try contacting the Dr. Robert Atkins of the Atkins Center for
> Complementary Medicine in NYC (Manhattan 212 area code.) He may also
> have a web site. He's a cardiologist and runs a huge practice.
> I hope this helps.
> 
> William Kelley Eidem, coauthor "It's Not Just For Sex!"
> ----------------------------------------
> Read about the doctor's medical report, "It's Not Just For Sex!" at
> BeWellBooks.com now, by A.R. Salman, M.D. All purchases support the
> Gentler Cancer Research Foundation, www.gentler.org (Under
> construction.)
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


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From: Doug Skrecky <oberon@vcn.bc.ca>
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Authors
  Daviglus ML.  Stamler J.  Orencia AJ.  Dyer AR.  Liu K.  Greenland P.  Walsh
  MK.  Morris D.  Shekelle RB.
Institution
  Department of Preventive Medicine, Northwestern University Medical School,
  Chicago, IL 60611, USA.
Title
  Fish consumption and the 30-year risk of fatal myocardial infarction [see
  comments].
Comments
  Comment in: N Engl J Med 1997 Aug 14;337(7):497-8; discussion 498-9, Comment
  in: N Engl J Med 1997 Aug 14;337(7):498; discussion 498-9, Comment in: N Engl
  J Med 1997 Aug 14;337(7);498-9, Comment in: ACP J Club 1997 Nov-Dec;127(3):80
Source
  New England Journal of Medicine.  336(15):1046-53, 1997 Apr 10.
Abstract
  BACKGROUND: Epidemiologic data on the possible benefit of eating fish to
  reduce the risk of coronary heart disease have been
  inconsistent. We used data from the Chicago Western Electric Study to examine
  the relation between base-line fish consumption and the 30-year risk of death
  from coronary heart disease. METHODS: The study participants
  were 1822 men who were 40 to 55 years old and free of
  cardiovascular disease at base line. Fish
  consumption, as determined from a detailed dietary history, was stratified
  (0, 1 to 17, 18 to 34, and > or = 35 g per day). Mortality from coronary
  heart disease, ascertained from death certificates, was
  classified as death from myocardial infarction (sudden or nonsudden) or death
  from other coronary causes. RESULTS: During 47,153 person-years of follow-up,
  there were 430 deaths from coronary heart disease; 293 were
  due to myocardial infarctions (196 were sudden, 94 were nonsudden, and 3 were
  not classifiable). Cox proportional-hazards regression showed that for men
  who consumed 35 g or more of fish daily as compared with those who consumed
  none, the relative risks of death from coronary heart
  disease and from sudden or nonsudden myocardial infarction
  were 0.62 (95 percent confidence interval, 0.40 to 0.94) and 0.56 (95 percent
  confidence interval, 0.33 to 0.93), respectively, with a graded relation
  between the relative risks and the strata of fish consumption (P for trend =
  0.04 and 0.02, respectively). These findings were accounted for by the
  relation of fish consumption to nonsudden death from myocardial infarction
  (relative risk, 0.33; 95 percent confidence interval, 0.12 to 0.91; P for
  trend= 0.007). CONCLUSIONS: These data show an inverse association between
  fish consumption and death from coronary heart disease,
  especially nonsudden death from myocardial infarction.



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hi

i am looking for references on this theme in order to do a litterature
review.
Thanks for your help
Romain




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From: Shayne_Woodward@discovery.umeres.maine.edu (Shayne Woodward)
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I have an idea that hopefully someone can shed some light upon.  Take a
person who is reasonably young, in their twenties perhaps, who puts
themselves in a situation in which over a three to four week period
during finals they are limited to sleeping an average of 4 to 5 hours
per night, who are under a very considerate amount of mental stress
(breakup with boyfriend/girlfriend perhaps, keeping the grade), who
smokes an average of two full strength packs of cigarettes per day, as
well as consuming large amounts of caffeine.  This person then
experiences a coronary spasm, an MI, of which an echocardiogram shows
there is negligible damage, minimal troponin levels in the blood.  An
M-CAT is performed and reveals arteries are normal and clear.  I want
to make a strong point that after another four weeks have passed,
another echocardiogram is done and shows the heart to be in pristine
condition, as good as normal (in congruence with negligible damage
noticed earlier).  This person is treated with nifedipine daily
, yet every now and then, when under considerable stress, not
necessarily chest pains but a pain in the actual heart itself (nothing
usually worth taking nitro, maybe aspirin) occurs nonetheless. 
Remembering the echocardiogram revealed near perfectly, if not
perfectly, healed heart tissue, the pains still occasionally persist,
EVEN THOUGH THE HEART TISSUE IS COMPLETELY HEALED NEAR PERFECT.  Why do
these pains persist, even though all biological tissue related to the
heart is perfectly fine?  

Recall the stories we have heard of “phantom limbs” and what not of
people experiencing excruciating pain over a limb that is simply not
there.  A nerve center in the brain is being fooled by neurons that do
not exist anymore.  One case in particular comes to mind in which a man
lost his right hand in a motorcycle accident and underwent this
disorder.  The pain was so great, and because there was no medical way
around his dilemma, he even contemplated suicide.  He felt perfectly as
if his right hand was clenched tightly into a fist with such force that
his fingernails were biting into the skin.  In one particularly
brilliant experiment, a doctor devised a box in which the man put his
left hand into.  Looking down upon the box with a divider between his
eyes, mirrors were set up so that a virtual “right hand” was seen
through the mans eyes.  Putting his left hand into a fist, and thus his
virtual right, he slowly unclenched his hand.  His brain was again more
or less fooled and the pain never came back.  

To get to the point, say a nerve center in the brain of this cardiac
patient is experiencing a similar problem, which under certain
environmental conditions produces the pain the patient experiences. 
Let me also add that I feel it would be insignificant if the nerves in
or near the area of previously damaged heart tissue were damaged as
well, for they should be more or less routed to the nerve center I
mentioned previously.  Say the pain is “connected” to the nerve center
in the brain and is being fooled or tricked by certain environmental
stimuli.  This is much the same case as the phantom limb scenario.  To
prove this, say a real-time cat-scan or MRI is performed, indicating
brain activity in certain regions when the pain is being experienced. 
The specific region is located, identified, and assessed as being an
area in which physical surgery could be performed without major risk of
interfering with normal brain activity.  Or maybe laser optics, or
photodynamic therapy, or whatever, is used to remove this
 area of brain matter.  Assuming the nerve center is responsible for
the “phantom pain,” it should now be eradicated.  This is why I feel it
is irrelevant whether or not the nerves near the heart were damaged
assuming they were connected to this nerve center.  The pain should not
be experienced now.  Instead of pushing aside a problem that is not
going away entirely by the use of drugs, the actual root of the problem
is taken out of the equation.  

Does this idea seem preposterous, too far-sighted?  It has been in my
mind for a couple of days now and I feel it might be worth mentioning,
one never knows its implications.  Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Shayne R Woodward
Pre-med undergraduate
University of Maine, Orono


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Hello,

12 years ago I was diagnosed with a heart murmur.  I was told that my
aortic valve was slowly calcifying.  Last week I went in for an echo, the
diagnosis was severe aortic stenosis.  Next week I'll be going in for
catheterisation and eventually a valve replacement.

I understand what your mum is going through, you might want to have a
look at this web page.  It is in detail and makes for interesting
reading.  Best of luck to your mother.

Robert

http://www.americanheart.org/Heart_and_Stroke_A_Z_Guide/conghdt.htm

Ashley Shameli wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recently posted some questions on behalf of my mother who
> is in need of an aortic valve replacement. The response was great and
> very helpful. Thank you everyone.
>
> Now, I am trying to find out where she is best off having the
> operation on the NHS. Does anyone have a website
> with survival statistics and waiting lists for the UK Healt System
> or know of such a site?
>
> If you do it would be a great help to us to know.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to assist us.
>
> Many thanks,
> Ashley
>
> a.shameli@btinternet.com



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Authors
  Boger RH.  Bode-Boger SM.  Brandes RP.  Phivthong-ngam L.  Bohme M.  Nafe R. 
  Mugge A.  Frolich JC.
Institution
  Institute of Clinical Pharmacology, Medical School, Hannover, Germany.
Title
  Dietary L-arginine reduces
  the progression of
  atherosclerosis in cholesterol-fed rabbits: comparison with
  lovastatin.
Source
  Circulation.  96(4):1282-90, 1997 Aug 19.
Abstract
  BACKGROUND: We investigated whether
  L-arginine induces regression of preexisting
  atheromatous lesions and reversal of
  endothelial dysfunction in hypercholesterolemic rabbits,
  whether similar effects can be obtained by
  cholesterol-lowering therapy with lovastatin, and which
  mechanism leads to these effects. METHODS AND RESULTS:
  Rabbits were fed 1% cholesterol for 4 weeks and 0.5% cholesterol for an
  additional 12 weeks. Two groups of cholesterol-fed rabbits were treated with
  L-arginine (2.0% in drinking water) or lovastatin (10 mg/d)
  during weeks 5 through 16. Systemic nitric oxide (NO) formation was assessed
  as the urinary excretion rates of nitrate and cGMP in weekly
  intervals. Cholesterol feeding progressively reduced urinary nitrate
  excretion to approximately 40% of baseline (P<.05) and increased plasma
  concentrations of asymmetrical dimethylarginine (ADMA), an endogenous NO
  synthesis inhibitor. Dietary
  L-arginine reversed the reduction in plasma
  L-arginine/ADMA ratio and partly restored urinary excretion
  of nitrate and cGMP (each P<.05 vs cholesterol) but did not change plasma
  cholesterol levels. L-Arginine completely blocked
  the progression of carotid intimal plaques,
  reduced aortic intimal thickening, and preserved
  endothelium-dependent vasodilator function. Lovastatin
  treatment reduced plasma cholesterol by 32% but did not improve urinary
  nitrate or cGMP excretion or endothelium-dependent
  vasodilation. Lovastatin had a weaker inhibitory effect on carotid plaque
  formation and aortic intimal thickening than L-arginine.
  L-Arginine inhibited but lovastatin potentiated superoxide
  radical generation in the atherosclerotic
  vascular wall. CONCLUSIONS: Dietary
  L-arginine improves NO-dependent vasodilator function in
  cholesterol-fed rabbits and completely blocks the
  progression of plaques via restoration of NO synthase
  substrate availability and reduction of vascular oxidative stress. Lovastatin
  treatment has a weaker inhibitory effect on the
  progression of atherosclerosis and no
  effect on vascular NO elaboration, which may be due to its stimulatory effect
  on vascular superoxide radical generation.



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Hello,

As some of you know by now from previous correspondence, my mother
will need to have her aortic valve replaced quite soon. As a general
question, if we are the same blood types (if this is possible) would
it be possible for me to be the blood donor?

If it helps the operation will be taking place in England.


Thanks for any help,
Ashley

a.shameli@btinternet.com



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Assuming you are healthy then yes you can donate blood.   They may or may
not use your whole blood during the operation
or they may just ship yours off to the blood bank...Either way, you are
doing a good thing.

Ashley Shameli <A.Shameli@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:382ac7a5.11802260@news.btinternet.com...
> Hello,
>
> As some of you know by now from previous correspondence, my mother
> will need to have her aortic valve replaced quite soon. As a general
> question, if we are the same blood types (if this is possible) would
> it be possible for me to be the blood donor?
>
> If it helps the operation will be taking place in England.
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Ashley
>
> a.shameli@btinternet.com
>




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Ashley Shameli wrote in message <382ac7a5.11802260@news.btinternet.com>...
As a general
>question, if we are the same blood types (if this is possible) would
>it be possible for me to be the blood donor?
>
The answer is YES as long as you are healthy (not anaemic etc)
>
>
>Thanks for any help,
>Ashley
>
>a.shameli@btinternet.com
>




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I found that before I had my aortic valve replaced, the more I knew the
better I felt.
There are some choices to be made (valve type, fully invasive procedure,
partially invasive).  Knowing the specifics is vital to making the decision
best for you.  The page you recommended Robert is a great one.
Good luck to you - you'll feel tremendously better once you're through the
post-op recovery.
Jim


RobyC wrote:

> Hello,
>
> 12 years ago I was diagnosed with a heart murmur.  I was told that my
> aortic valve was slowly calcifying.  Last week I went in for an echo, the
> diagnosis was severe aortic stenosis.  Next week I'll be going in for
> catheterisation and eventually a valve replacement.
>
> I understand what your mum is going through, you might want to have a
> look at this web page.  It is in detail and makes for interesting
> reading.  Best of luck to your mother.
>
> Robert
>
> http://www.americanheart.org/Heart_and_Stroke_A_Z_Guide/conghdt.htm
>
> Ashley Shameli wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently posted some questions on behalf of my mother who
> > is in need of an aortic valve replacement. The response was great and
> > very helpful. Thank you everyone.
> >
> > Now, I am trying to find out where she is best off having the
> > operation on the NHS. Does anyone have a website
> > with survival statistics and waiting lists for the UK Healt System
> > or know of such a site?
> >
> > If you do it would be a great help to us to know.
> >
> > Thank you for taking the time to assist us.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Ashley
> >
> > a.shameli@btinternet.com



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Many blood banks discourage 'directed donations' ecause this may encourage
people to donate when they really shouldn't - i.e., those likely to have
blood borne infections from socially unacceptable lifestyle practices.
However, general donations are encouraged and go into the 'bank'.  Just as
your mother would not expect to get money from the ATM machine with the same
serial numbers as were on the currency you deposited the previous week, she
should not expect to get the same red blood cells as you donated.
Ashley Shameli <A.Shameli@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:382ac7a5.11802260@news.btinternet.com...
> Hello,
>
> As some of you know by now from previous correspondence, my mother
> will need to have her aortic valve replaced quite soon. As a general
> question, if we are the same blood types (if this is possible) would
> it be possible for me to be the blood donor?
>
> If it helps the operation will be taking place in England.
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Ashley
>
> a.shameli@btinternet.com
>




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I'm trying to achieve polyclonal activation(and proliferation) of
B-lymphocytes in vitro.
I'm having difficulty finding the right stimulus (mitogen or MAb) to add

to culture, to stimulate specifically B lymphocytes.

I tried Lipopolysaccharide (Sigma E.Coli 055:B5), and Staphylococcus
Aureus Cowan I (Calbiochem, product name Pansorbin).
None of these worked, as they should according to literature. I might be

using the wrong clone or origin of the stimulating agents. I'm working
with peripheral blood of cynomolgus monkeys.
I'm not sure where to obtain anti-IgM antibody that would crossreact.

Does someone have a suggest where to search for the correct mitogen?

I'd appreciate any help/directions you could give me.
--Please reply both to group and to JREGIELI@STANFORD.EDU

--
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Jakub J. Regieli
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From: "Dimension" <imercutio@yahoo.com>
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Hello,

Does anyone know where information about the average body mass of either the
"upper body" or "lower body" can be found?  That is, are there average
values (e.g., for adults) of the mass of the body from, say, the waist up
(hence "upper body" mass)?  Additionally, if such data is available, what
specific method is used to measure these values?  Much appreciated.

Dimension






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From: "Javier Casas Ciria" <jcasas@comcadiz.es>
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If you don`t mind, I am microbiologist and I would like to do one question,
please.

What is difference between atherectomy and endarterectomy in methods?
Atherectomy specimens often provide only small amounts of tissues that may
include considerable debris.

In advance, thank you.

Fco Javier Casas Ciria
Lab. Microbiología
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SPAIN




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Hello,

I am trying to get any thoughts or opinions for a friend of mine that is having
very unusual chest pains.  First, my friend is a 33 year old male, in good
spirits, and has no family history of heart related illness.  Second, he was
been complaining of the same symptoms for about two years now.  The symptoms
are mainly felt while in a rest state, however, they are also felt while in an
active state, but to a lesser degree.  The symptoms are as follows: a strange
"pulsing", "resonating vibration(tuning-fork)", or "wobble" sensation located
on the left side of the chest, varying pressue/weight(low to crushing), and
sleep-loss due to unusual pain.

He has had numerous tests done.  All the tests seem to indicate that nothing is
wrong.  The tests have included full blood tests(cholesterol, HDL), chest xray,
chest CT, chest MRI, heart monitor, stress echo, and cardiac ultrasound.  There
have been a few abnormalities, but apparently they are not significant.  They
are as follows: Chest CT indicated a soft tissue density which appeared to be a
thymus, heart monitor indicated at times a slowing of the heart, and cardiac
ultrasound indicated mild thickening of cusp of aortic valve with trace AI and
trace pulmonic insufficiency.  The cardiac ultrasound also indicated the
presence of a small "hole".  The "hole" appears to be benign(no blood flowing
through it).

Any thoughts?



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On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:37:41 -0500, "Michael Miller"
<mjmiller@greenvillenc.com> wrote:

>Many blood banks discourage 'directed donations' ecause this may encourage
>people to donate when they really shouldn't - i.e., those likely to have
>blood borne infections from socially unacceptable lifestyle practices.
>However, general donations are encouraged and go into the 'bank'.  Just as
>your mother would not expect to get money from the ATM machine with the same
>serial numbers as were on the currency you deposited the previous week, she
>should not expect to get the same red blood cells as you donated.
>Ashley Shameli <A.Shameli@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>news:382ac7a5.11802260@news.btinternet.com...


Mr Miller,

Thank you for the reply (and also thanks to everyone else).

My mother is very hesitant to accept blood from other people. I don't
know why but at the moment. This is why she would prefer it if the
blood I donated went directly to her during the operation.

Is there any way to ensure that the blood I give DEFINETLY
reaches her?

Many thanks in advance,
Ashley.

a.shameli@btinternet.com


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Ashley wrote:
As some of you know by now from previous correspondence, my mother
>will need to have her aortic valve replaced quite soon. As a general
>question, if we are the same blood types (if this is possible) would
>it be possible for me to be the blood donor?
>
>If it helps the operation will be taking place in England.
>
I have limited experience with this, however I do recall several
readings about close family relations being unsuitable for direct
relation transfusions because of incompatibilities and a type of host
versus graft reaction- but your grandmother could plan to have
autologous blood be given back to her- she would then donate her ouwn
blood over the next year to the hospital of her procedure and it would
be banked for her own use only- she would need about 6 units so it
would take several sessions over many months to have that amount of
blood on reserve- any not used at the time of the surgery would be
then directed to the pool for general use. This is much safer, but a
complete stranger who is most complatible is also very acceptable- all
the communicable diseases are screened for as a rule- and it is
generally considered a safe practise that literally saves lives. 
They can also recycle an auto-transfuse blood lost in the operation
directly- this is a primative practise- but essentially the blood lost
is filterd and returned to the system by a series of tubes and a pump
and directly returned to the circulation within a period of minutes-
the percentage of return is something less than ideal for this... but
it does have the ability to lessen the total amount of donor blood
needed to replace the loss during surgery-
An alternative is the use of non-blood products as volume replacements
and expanders which replace blood loss during and after surgery- but
do not come from donors- they are chemically manufactured and safe to
use- commonly known here by the Pentaspan- although this is a safe
product it is not the same as, and cannot be used exclusively to
replace surgical blood loss..
She really needs to speak with the surgeon directly about the
solutions and understandably seek some other reference, but these are
common American/Canadian practises and most surgeons here are amenable
to a combination approach when possible and to save donor blood as a
last resolution- this is also more cost effective and doesn't pull
from the bank- so it saves the pool to be used for persons who need
the pooled products and for emergencies- but there is no reason to
draw upon those resorces in the case of a planned, elective surgery...

Hope this helps...
Christie R.N.

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Hi


can anybody tell me something about the sideeffects of beta HmG CoA-
Blocker, especially about the longterm effects on the lipoprotein plasma
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Is anything known about Prof.Karl Werdan, Halle, and his sepsis-theory?



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Dear colleagues,

I would like to inform you about the upcoming
"3rd International Conference on Transgenic Animals" October, 2000 in 
Beijing, China.

This conference is focused on transgenic research and technology, which play 
vital roles in diversified fields within the life sciences.
ICTA 2000 is a forum for new developments and future plans involving 
transgenic technology.

The members of the organizing committee have put together an impressive list 
of session chairs and speakers that will help to make this
an excellent conference.

Consisting of technical presentations, invited speakers, poster sessions and 
exhibits from all over the world, the conference is an
excellent opportunity to exchange ideas, techniques and applications in this 
exceedingly important and rapidly expanding area.

Hosted in China, attendees also have a wonderful opportunity to experience 
this unique and fascinating part of the world.

On behalf of the Organizing and Scientific Committees, we invite your 
participation in this important international conference.

Sincerely,

Peifeng Chen
(Administrative Coordinator)



P.S.: ICTA 2000 is also an ideal destination for international companies 
looking for newer business opportunities or expanding their
present operations in China.
If you would like to explore opportunities for your
company to participate in the 3rd ICTA sponsorship
program, please contact Ms. P. Chen (icta2000@hotmail.com) for details.


Information about the previous conferences is available at
http://www.globalink.org/events/ICTA/
http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/2ndicta/
or in the following articles:
Lab. Anim. Sci. 1999 Apr; 49(2):135-6 and
Transgenic Res. 1999 Feb;8(1):55-70



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(The third e-mail edition of 3rd ICTA announcement)


3rd International Conference on Transgenic Animals(ICTA)
          Oct.16-21, 2000    Beijing China

Co-chairs: David Lee Kooyman <dlk5@email.byu.edu>
           Eckhard Wolf <ewolf@lmb.uni-muenchen.de>

Topics:

1. Transgenic expression in mammals
Peter Sobieszczuk, PhD chair (Imperial College of
Medicine, London, England)

2. Transgenic expression in plants<br>
Ilya Raskin, PhD chair (Rutgers University, New
Brunswick, NJ USA)

3. Transgenic Disease models
Jing Zhou, MD, PhD chair (Harvard Inst. Med, Boston,
Mass. USA)

4. Transgenic expression in poultry
Robert Ivarie, PhD chair (Univ of Georgia, Athens, GA
USA)

5. Transgenic expression in fish
Richard Winn, PhD chair (Univ of Georgia, Athens, GA
USA)

6. Transgenic transplantation models
Ignacio Anegon, MD chair (Sante University, Nantes,
France)

7. Transgenic Techniques
Mike Martin, PhD chair (Nextran, Princeton, NJ USA)

8. Manipulation of ES cells and Cloning
Jerry Yang, PhD chair (Univ. of Conn. Storrs, CT USA)

9. Genomic and Proteomic analysis of transgenic animal
models-Technical Session
Georg Arnold, PhD chair (Gene Center, LMU, Munich,
Germany)

10. ENU Mutagenesis-phenotype driven approaches for
analyzing gene function-Technical Session
Eckhard Wolf, PhD chair (Inst. of Molecular Animal
Breeding, LMU, Munich, Germany)


Keynote Speakers: Eckhard Wolf (Germany), Yanru Chen
(USA), Carl Pinkert (USA), Jing Zhuo (USA), Jake Chen
(USA), David Kooyman (USA)


Sponsor:

ISTR(International Society for Transgenic Research)

Co-Sponsor(s):

Transgenic Research
Kluwer Academic Publishers
(continued)

Organizers:

CICCST(China International Conference Center for
Science & Technology)
BILONG Transgenics;

Contact:

Ms. Peifeng Chen, Administrative Coordinator
Ms. Jenny Zuo, Local Coordinator

Organising Committee: Chairman Mr. Li Birong,
President of BILONG Transgenics; Zhonglian Zhang,
Peifeng Chen, Wilfried Rossoll, Rajiv Pant, Lionel
Lee, Liang Wang, Rick Xie, Chen Hong,

BILONG Transgenics Academic Division
Add: C13 Beiyiiao, Zhongguancun, Beijing 100080, China
Box: P.O. Box 2714, Beijing 100080, China
Tel: 86-10-8262-5664
Fax: 86-10-6253-2114
Email: 3rdICTA@bilong.com
Web: www.ciccst.org.cn/icta

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(LAST REVISION: 14-AUG-99)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
All BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are accessible through the World
Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.  One can read and reply
publicly or privately to both recent postings and archived messages
through one's Web browser if it is configured properly to send e-mail.
Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS index.  The main BIOSCI
home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS Table of Contents
database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address database described in
another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
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PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
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node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
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the UK-HGMP-Resource Centre (known as hgmp.mrc.ac.uk):
-----------------------------------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   majordomo@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Please ask for help at biosci@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.







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