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Subject: What's the simplest way to map a cDNA clone?
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I got 6 human fetal brain cDNA. They are not identical to any published sequ
ence by comparing in "Blast". I am going to map these clones. Would any body
give me suggestion on what's the method of choice for an unexperienced guy? Any
 information must be very helpful to me and be highly appresciated.
 
CHEN-JEE HORNG, M.D.
DEPARTMENT OF PSYCHIATRY
VETERANS GENERAL HOSPITAL-TAIPEI
TAIPEI, TAIWAN, R.O.C.
E-mail: ymmcs023@twnmoe10.edu.tw

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Jan 05 22:00:00 1994
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                -    COURSE ANNOUNCEMENT      -        


          GENETIC ANALYSIS METHODS FOR MEDICAL RESEARCHERS   

Description:  

A comprehensive four day course directed toward physician
scientists and/or other medical researchers that will introduce
them to state-of-the-art approaches for mapping human inherited
disorders of both a monogenic and polygenic nature, such as
cancer syndromes, multiple sclerosis, etc.  The overall
focus of the course is on the development of a broad-based
knowledge of the resources available through the Human Genome
Initiative, and overall project decision making, rather than the
mechanics of specific techniques.  The specific goals are:  

1.   To outline and instruct participants in detail about the
necessary steps and procedures used in ascertaining and
collecting pedigree data and family history information.  These
processes include the use of family history questionnaires,
computer management systems, simulation of data to determine
linkage power, designs for clinical sampling schemes, and the
actual sampling and subsequent cataloguing and storing of
pedigree DNA for study. 

2.   To discuss in detail the methodologies for using the Index
Marker Maps generated by the efforts of the Human
Genome Initiative.  This will include a broad understanding of
PCR technology and its use for genotyping dinucleotide or other
simple sequence length polymorphisms.  It will also include a
discussion of statistical analytical methods such as lod scores
and the examination of affected relative pairs.  Emphasis will be
on working examples as well as the basic theory behind these
genetic mapping methodologies rather than intensive computational
exercises.  Information will be available about the computational
resources necessary to undertake such a study and how to obtain
them.  

3.   To educate participants on the general interpretation of
linkage results.  Discussions will include an overview of
positional cloning strategies, refinement of the preliminary
linkage data, examination of heterogeneity, physical mapping,
cDNA analysis, exon amplification etc.  This course will not
include any bench or "wet" laboratory experience.

4.   To incorporate discussion of the participant's individual
research interests.  Participants will be encouraged to bring
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group discussion and instructor consultation.  Course
participants will be polled prior to the course about their
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Faculty: 


Organizers:         

Margaret A. Pericak-Vance, Ph.D.                                 
Dept. of Medicine
Division of Neurology 
Duke University Medical Center                

Jonathan L. Haines, Ph.D.                     
Molecular Neurogenetics Unit
Massachusetts General Hospital      
 

Instructors:        

Jeffrey Murray, M.D.                         
Division of Medical Genetics
Department of Pediatrics
University of Iowa Hospitals                  

Marcy C. Speer, Ph.D.                         
Dept. of Medicine
Division of Neurology
Duke University Medical Center                

Arthur S. Aylsworth, M.D.                     
Chief, Division of Genetics and Metabolism,
Dept. of Pediatrics
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill   

David Goldgar, Ph.D.                         
Dept. of Medical Informatics
University of Utah  

Deborah Meyers, Ph.D.
Dept. of Medicine
School of Medicine
Johns Hopkins University


The broad-based faculty has extensive expertise in genetic
epidemiology, positional cloning, reference marker mapping,
laboratory techniques, clinical diagnosis and family collection. 
Faculty will be available throughout the course for informal
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Location:           The R. David Thomas Center                   
                    The Fuqua School of Business                 
                    Duke University                          
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The Thomas center, by offering both in-house accommodations and
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Date:               May 15 through May 18, 1994  



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minorities are specifically encouraged to apply.  The deadline for receipt
of completed application forms is March 1, 1994.


For more information about registration fees, course
requirements, etc:       


Write:              Genetic Methods Course                       
                    c/o Dr. Margaret Pericak-Vance               
                    Division of Neurology, Box 2900              
                    Duke University Medical Center               
                    Durham, NC  27710       
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In any correspondence, please include a postal address.

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Jan 09 22:00:00 1994
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From: claird@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Cameron Laird)
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Subject: Re: Questions about CEPH's map
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Let me calm the roiled waters.  I summarize below what I've learned from
a couple of sources.

In article <2grtau$62m@sugar.neosoft.com>, I <claird@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> wrote:
>Does CEPH (Centre d'Etude du Polymorphism Humain) need some
>automation help?  In
>
>	Nowak, Rachel
>	1993	"Draft Genome Map Debuts on Internet",
>		Science, volume 262, page 1967 (24
>		December 1993)
>
>Daniel Cohen is quoted as having said, "We received 64 requests
>for map information ...  We have a logistics problem that we did
>not anticipate.  We have only one person at any one time sending
>out [the files on Internet]."  What's up, here?  I know Cohen is
>famous around the world, and can get close to whatever he re-
>quests, I know how severely a journalistic filter can degrade
>technical information, and so on, but it *sounds* as though some-
>one doesn't know how to automate Internet ftp or mail services.
>Is there someone closer to the scene who knows more of the story?
>Heck, for the chance to help out the HUGE mappers, *I*'ll get on
>a plane to Paris to help set up their node ...
			.
			.
			.
Folks assure me that the CEPH team is doing just what it
wants.  There are no particular technical constraints on
their distribution of map data.  They do *not* appear in
need of help from the Internet community to automate
their operations.

Incidentally, reporter Rachel Nowak was quite gracious
in a conversation with me in assuming responsibility for
my misapprehension about the situation.  I tried to con-
vince her that she'd done her job just fine; I'm still
not sure she didn't take this episode as a criticism.
My description:  the Internet has facilitated a couple
mismatches of scale (Cohen's expectations and the post-
*Nature* response) or vocabulary (the *Science* readership
and my NetNews-affected idiolect).  What ought one expect,
though, from a technology that persists in expanding by
roughly 10%/month?

I've re-directed follow-ups.
-- 

Cameron Laird
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claird@litwin.com (claird%litwin.com@uunet.uu.net)  	+1 713 996 8546

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Jan 09 22:00:00 1994
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From: vaysseix@genethon.fr (Guy Vaysseix)
Subject: Re: Questions about CEPH's map
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In article <2grtau$62m@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> claird@sugar.NeoSoft.COM
	(Cameron Laird) writes:
>Does CEPH (Centre d'Etude du Polymorphism Humain) need some
>automation help?
>[...] I know how severely a journalistic filter can degrade
>technical information, and so on, but it *sounds* as though some-
>one doesn't know how to automate Internet ftp or mail services.
>Is there someone closer to the scene who knows more of the story?
>Heck, for the chance to help out the HUGE mappers, *I*'ll get on
>a plane to Paris to help set up their node ...
>-- 

	>> Thank you very much for your help, but before to get a plane, just
	try to get files from :

   	 ftp anonymous : ceph-genethon-map.genethon.fr
         dir  pub/ceph-genethon-map
         or gopherize at gopher.genethon.fr
         -> Genethon Data
         -> Pmap
         or just click into your favorite mosaic client at :
  	 WWW : http://www.genethon.fr/genethon_en.html

        and read the current "policy".
	IMHO not really a computer related problem...

	and last but not least, for infos, requests, flames, etc
		mail ceph-genethon-map@genethon.fr
	most of the HUGE mappers staff read this.


Amicalement;

Guy Vaysseix (CEPH/Genethon)


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Does CEPH (Centre d'Etude du Polymorphism Humain) need some
automation help?  In

	Nowak, Rachel
	1993	"Draft Genome Map Debuts on Internet",
		Science, volume 262, page 1967 (24
		December 1993)

Daniel Cohen is quoted as having said, "We received 64 requests
for map information ...  We have a logistics problem that we did
not anticipate.  We have only one person at any one time sending
out [the files on Internet]."  What's up, here?  I know Cohen is
famous around the world, and can get close to whatever he re-
quests, I know how severely a journalistic filter can degrade
technical information, and so on, but it *sounds* as though some-
one doesn't know how to automate Internet ftp or mail services.
Is there someone closer to the scene who knows more of the story?
Heck, for the chance to help out the HUGE mappers, *I*'ll get on
a plane to Paris to help set up their node ...
-- 

Cameron Laird
claird@Neosoft.com (claird%Neosoft.com@uunet.uu.net)	+1 713 267 7966
claird@litwin.com (claird%litwin.com@uunet.uu.net)  	+1 713 996 8546

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Jan 10 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: Re: Questions about CEPH's map
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From: robison1@husc10.harvard.edu (Keith Robison)
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It's been obvious from the start that the CEPH/Genethon people had a
good Internet scheme going  -- access by all the favorite protocols.
(and to make things even better, the good folks at the U.Michigan
Genome Center have provided WWW search facilities.
<a href="http://guraldi.itn.med.umich.edu/cgi-bin/ceph-to-html">Human Genome Physical Map</a> from CEPH-<a href="http://www.genethon.fr/genethon_en.html">Genethon</a> (at <a href="http://mendel.hgp.med.umich.edu/Home.html">U.Michigan Genome Center</a>)

But what is the explanation for the Cohen quote in the Science article
about "only 1 person sending out requests on the Internet"?  Was some
important context lost?  Did Dr. Cohen mean that there was one person
available for non-internet requests or for showing non-netliterate 
biologists how to get the data?  The incongruence between that article
and the excellent (and well net-publicized) net access has had me wondering
for days.

Hope someone can shed some light on this curious statement.

Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

krobison@nucleus.harvard.edu 




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Does anyone have any  information on when genomic imprinting is
completed in mammalian spermatogenesis?  There's a report of
fertilization by fusion of round spermatids with oocytes (mouse,
hamster) but so far no successful embryo development. 
This question is relevant to current techniques using micro-assisted
human fertilization by intracytoplasmic sperm injection (ICSI)  in
cases of severe male infertility.  There are already reports of
fertilization using very immature sperm from the rete testis.  Poor
chromatin condensation is significantly associated with male
infertility, and if imprinting is not completed until after the second
meiotic division this could lead to problems in embryo development.  
In addition, there are strong associations between epididymal blockage
( a common indication used for carrying out ICSI) and cystic fibrosis,
which is a bit worrying. 

Jim Cummins                   
School of Veterinary Studies
Murdoch University
Western Australia 6150  Tel +61-9-360 2668 Fax +61-9-310 4144
For every complex problem there's a simple solution.  And it's wrong!

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Jan 12 22:00:00 1994
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From: claird@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Cameron Laird)
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In article <robison1.758271389@husc10>,
Keith Robison <robison1@husc10.harvard.edu> wrote:
>It's been obvious from the start that the CEPH/Genethon people had a
>good Internet scheme going  -- access by all the favorite protocols.
			.
			.
			.
>But what is the explanation for the Cohen quote in the Science article
>about "only 1 person sending out requests on the Internet"?  Was some
>important context lost?  Did Dr. Cohen mean that there was one person
>available for non-internet requests or for showing non-netliterate 
>biologists how to get the data?  The incongruence between that article
>and the excellent (and well net-publicized) net access has had me wondering
>for days.
>
>Hope someone can shed some light on this curious statement.
			.
			.
			.
The incongruity of that quote was indeed what initiated this thread.
I don't have a definitive answer, but, as was recently posted in
bionet.molbio.genome-program,

#We have received a number of inquiries about the availability of the
#CEPH-Genethon data.  The following message, dated mid December,
#was taken directly from the Genethon Gopher.  It explains CEPH's plans
#for releasing the information for the different level maps.  Dr. Cohen
#recently confirmed that all of the data will be available by anonymous
#FTP on the schedule given.
#
#Jane Peterson
#NCHGR
#
#          "As mentioned in the Nature publication (A first generation
#          physical map of the the human genome, December 16 1993),
#          routes will be submitted to exhaustive verification and will
#          be available by anonymous ftp as soon as they are checked.
#          This checking process will last approximately two months.
#          However, level 1-2 routes are already available by anonymous
#          ftp. Investigators interested in level 3-7 routes that have
#          not been checked yet can obtain them by electromic mail
#          requests addressed to CEPH-genethon-map@genethon.fr or by
#          fax.  This personal request procedure could delay the access
#          to these routes due to logistic problems that will be solved
#          within a few weeks. But even if the number of requests is
#          high, this delay will not exceed a few days for any request.
#          Based on an unfortunate experience on chromosome 21, we
#          consider now that the personal request procedure is the best
#          way to keep contact with the potential users of this map. 
#          Indeed, this will allow us to be informed on the progress in
#          checking validity of the routes and also to understand any
#          problem in using these data."
-- 

Cameron Laird
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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Jan 19 22:00:00 1994
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Hi!,

I'm sorry if this is not the proper group to post this, but
I don't know where else to ask.

Knowing that women provides a Y chromosome (correct me if I'm wrong)
and the male the X or the Y (correct me if I'm wrong) does the
male spermatocyte has X and Y or Only one (X or Y) before penetrates
the egg.

In other words does the spermatocyte has X or Y or both?  
How is the sex determined?

Thanks in advance,

Patrick Lamastus

P.S. Please reply to me I don't have news so if you post your answer to the
news I will never be able to read it.

E-MAIL: lamastus@sunny.dab.ge.com

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Jan 20 22:00:00 1994
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Hi there everybody!
 are there any (commercial) mouse chromosome painting  probes available 
somewhere?
info,
Roland
 Thanks so much for a

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rhubner@molbiol.ox.ac.uk writes:
I used to use G-banding 20 years ago.
I have change to study in computer sci now.
Bye,
Supat
>Hi there everybody!
> are there any (commercial) mouse chromosome painting  probes available 
>somewhere?
>info,
>Roland
> Thanks so much for a

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Jan 20 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: chromosome 11
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Does anyone know what the effects are of an inversion on chromosome 11?

Thanks in advance,



G.E.Fazzi  (G.Fazzi@Farmaco.RuLimburg.NL)
Dept. Pharmacology, University of Limburg, The Netherlands

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In article <CJxHwG.4vM@sunblossom.ge.com> lamastus@sonic.dab.ge.com (Patrick Lamastus) writes:
>Hi!,
>
>I'm sorry if this is not the proper group to post this, but
>I don't know where else to ask.
>
>Knowing that women provides a Y chromosome (correct me if I'm wrong)
*
* most human females are XX, so would provide a single X chromosome
*
>and the male the X or the Y (correct me if I'm wrong) does the
>male spermatocyte has X and Y or Only one (X or Y) before penetrates
>the egg.
*
* again most human males are XY and therefore most sperm have a single
* X or a single Y chromosome.
*
>
>In other words does the spermatocyte has X or Y or both?
>How is the sex determined?
>
*
* Generally speaking an XX individual is female and an XY individual is male
* things are a touch more complicated than this, you should ask someone who
* knows rather more than I do if you are interested.
*
* Occasionally things do go wrong and people end up with exotic sex chromosomes
* For example about 1/1000 males are XXY and a similar numer XYY. Similarly
* the same proportion of women are XXX and about 1/10,000 women have Turner's
* syndrome (a single X chromosome).
*
* I believe that the fact that X sperm and Y sperm are not identical has been
* used as a method of biasing conception in favour of a sex determined by the
* parents.
*
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Patrick Lamastus
>
>P.S. Please reply to me I don't have news so if you post your answer to the
>news I will never be able to read it.
>
>E-MAIL: lamastus@sunny.dab.ge.com



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From: Tmeyn@ccit.arizona.edu (Tony Meyn)
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I recently sequenced a fungal gene that contained the sequence:

AATATTACTACTACTACTACTACTACT

within a transcribed but untranslated region.

A database search revealed a number of eucaryotes with this "TAC" repeat,
but investigation of the papers did not reveal anything of use about
this sequence.  Any help leading to info. about this sequence would be
appreciated.  

Tony Meyn
University of Arizona

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From: Lensch@chop.edu (M. William Lensch)
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Does anyone have any statistics on uniparental disomy? Which chromosomes
have been noted as being involved other than chr. 15? What conditions does
this cause other than those associated w/ chr. 15? I don't have e-mail so
post here please. Thanks............

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In article <1994Jan25.121352.13149@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, fjmd1@cl.cam.ac.uk
(Francis Davey) wrote:
> 
> In article <CJxHwG.4vM@sunblossom.ge.com> lamastus@sonic.dab.ge.com (Patrick Lamastus) writes:
> >Hi!,
> >
> >I'm sorry if this is not the proper group to post this, but
> >I don't know where else to ask.
> >
> >Knowing that women provides a Y chromosome (correct me if I'm wrong)
> *
> * most human females are XX, so would provide a single X chromosome
> *
> >and the male the X or the Y (correct me if I'm wrong) does the
> >male spermatocyte has X and Y or Only one (X or Y) before penetrates
> >the egg.
> *
> * again most human males are XY and therefore most sperm have a single
> * X or a single Y chromosome.
> *
> >
> >In other words does the spermatocyte has X or Y or both?
> >How is the sex determined?
> >
> *
> * Generally speaking an XX individual is female and an XY individual is male
> * things are a touch more complicated than this, you should ask someone who
> * knows rather more than I do if you are interested.
> *####there is a specific gene(s) on the Y chrom. loosely refered to as the sex determination gene that I belive has not been identified though is has been assigned to a narrow window (my info. also is prob. outdated).
> * Occasionally things do go wrong and people end up with exotic sex chromosomes
> * For example about 1/1000 males are XXY and a similar numer XYY. Similarly
> * the same proportion of women are XXX and about 1/10,000 women have Turner's
> * syndrome (a single X chromosome).
> *##### there are also cases where GENOTYPIC males (XY) are PHENOTYPIC females (they look female) due to things like mutation in the androgen receptor gene (androgen being a key player as far as hormomes go in maleness). This condition is known as testicular feminization. These individuals are sterile.
> * I believe that the fact that X sperm and Y sperm are not identical has been
> * used as a method of biasing conception in favour of a sex determined by the
> * parents.
> *####this technique is based upon the different densities of sperm (or other cells) and uses centrifugation to seperate cell type (those w/X and those w/Y). This is termed flow cytometry.
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Patrick Lamastus
> >
> >P.S. Please reply to me I don't have news so if you post your answer to the
> >news I will never be able to read it.
> >
> >E-MAIL: lamastus@sunny.dab.ge.com

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Patrick Lamastus writes:

>t his technique is based upon the different densities of sperm (or other cells) and uses centrifugation to seperate cell type (those w/X and those w/Y). This is termed flow cytometry.

Wrong, sorry. There have been a number of attempts to separate X and Y
sperm by differential centrifugation.  None have been repeatable.

Flow cytometry relies on separation of sperm based on fluorescence
staining.  This can be a specific in situ hybridisation stain (eg for a
region of the Y or X chromosome) or a generalised DNA stain that gives
information about the total DNA content.  Theoretically  X and Y sperm
differ in DNA content by about 2% but as this is less than the
within-gender variation you can see that there are big problems in
successful sorting.   The following refernces may help
Auger J, Leonce S, Jouannet P, Ronot X (1993): Flow cytometric sorting
of living, highly motile human spermatozoa based on evaluation of their
mitochondrial activity. J Histochem Cytochem 41:1247-51.
Cran DG, Johnson LA, Miller NG, Cochrane D, Polge C (1993): Production
of bovine calves following separation of X- and Y-chromosome    
bearing sperm and in vitro fertilisation. Vet Rec 132:40-1.
Dresser DW, Atkins CJ, Pinder A, Morrell JM (1993): Analyses of DNA
content of living spermatozoa using flow cytometry techniques. J Reprod
Fertil 98:357-365.
Johnson LA, Clarke RN (1988): Flow sorting of X and Y
chromosome-bearing mammalian sperm: activation and pronuclear
development of sorted bull, boar and ram sperm microinjected into
hamster oocytes. Gamete Res 21:335-343.
Johnson LA, Welch GR, Keyvanfar K, Dorfmann A, Fugger EF, Schulman JD
(1993): Gender preselection in humans? Flow cytometric separation of X
and Y spermatozoa for the prevention of X-linked diseases. Human Reprod
8:1733-1739.
Morrell JM (1991): Applications of flow cytometry to artificial
insemination: a review. Vet Rec 129:375-8.
Pasteur X, Maubon I, Sabido O, Cottier M, Laurent JL (1992): Comparison
of the chromatin stainability of human spermatozoa separated by
discontinuous Percoll gradient centrifugation. A flow cytometric
contribution. Anal Quant Cytol Histol 14:96-104.
Pasteur X, Sabido O, Maubon I, Perrin CM, Laurent JL (1991):
Quantitative assessment of chromatin stability alteration in human
spermatozoa induced by freezing and thawing. A flow cytometric study.
Anal Quant Cytol Histol 13:383-90.
Peter AT, Jones PP, Robinson JP (1993): Fractionation of bovine
spermatozoa for sex selection - a rapid immunomagnetic technique to
remove spermatozoa that contain the H Y antigen. Theriogenology
40:1177-1185.
Seligman J, Shalgi R, Oschry Y, Kosower NS (1991): Sperm analysis by
flow cytometry using the fluorescent thiol labeling agent
monobromobimane. Mol Reprod Devel 29:276-281.
Spano M, Evenson DP (1993): Flow cytometric analysis for reproductive
biology. Biology of the Cell 78:53-62.
Tao J, Du JY, Critser ES, Critser JK (1993): Assessment of the
acrosomal status and viability of human spermatozoa simultaneously
using flow cytometry. Human Reprod 8:1879-1885.


Jim Cummins                   
School of Veterinary Studies
Murdoch University
Western Australia 6150  Tel +61-9-360 2668 Fax +61-9-310 4144
"An inordinate fondness for Beetles"

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    A place to start that answers many of your questions about which 
    chromosomes are imprinted would be the American Journal of Human 
    Genetics for January 1990 by Hall J.  46:857-873 1990.
    



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M. William Lensch (Lensch@chop.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone have any statistics on uniparental disomy? Which chromosomes
: have been noted as being involved other than chr. 15? What conditions does
: this cause other than those associated w/ chr. 15? I don't have e-mail so
: post here please. Thanks............

Updates concerning which chromsomes UPD has been observed for is published by
the 'committee for clinical disorders, chromosome abnormalities 
and uniparental disomy' as part of the Human Gene Mapping Workshops that are 
published by Cytogenetics and Cell Genetics.

Statistics: Ch15 maternal UPD occurs at a frequency of roughly 1/100,000.
Ch15 paternal UPD is much less frequently (roughly 1/500,000). No statistics
exist for any other chromosome.

Which chromosomes: 
Mat UPD has been observed for chromosome 4, 7, 9,13, 14, 15, 16, 21, 22.
Pat UPD has been observed for chromosomes 6,10, 14, 16, 21, X, XY.

Abnormal phenotype (besides homozygosity for recessive alleles:
Ch7 mat UPD -- short stature (e.g. Spotila et al. AJHG 1992 51:1396-1405).
Ch14 mat and pat UPD various findings including mild mental retardation
 (e.g. Antonarakis AJHG 52:1145-1152).
Ch15 mat UPD (Prader-Willi syndrome) pat UPD (Angelman syndrome).
Ch11 UPD(pat) is associated with Wilms Tumor and Beckwith-Wiedemann
syndrome. However this is segemental and seems to only exist as a post-
fertilization event. (see Henry et al. Eur. J Hum Genet 1:19-29).

For most other chromosomes there is either no imprinting effect, or the effect
of the UPD is obscured by presence of trisomic cell lines or recessive 
conditions. Chromosome 15 is the only UPD for which a clearly identifiable
syndrome is associated with UPD.


Wendy Robinson
Univ. of ZŸŸurich
Dept. of Medical Genetics
wendy@medgen.unizh.ch



From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Jan 27 22:00:00 1994
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I am embarking upon two rather interesting projects and would like to
benefit from the expertise and/or experience of people in this group.  I
will soon be presented with some tissue samples from beefalo (also
called cattalo in Canada) upon which to do some cytogenetic work.
Beefalo (cattalo) are hybrids between male beef cows and female buffalo
(bison).  One of my intents is to follow the inheritance of both cow and
buffalo chromosomes during subsequent inbreeding of the hybrids.

The other project involves the freshwater sturgeon (species:
fulvescens).  Although I have had a fair amount of experience with fish
cytogenetics, I have never worked with sturgeons.  I am assuming that
cell culture techniques and restriction methods appropriate for other
fish species would also work with sturgeons.

I will appreciate any and all comments about either of these two
projects.

Thanks,

Steve Hedman
Professor
Biology and Biochemistry/Molecular Biology
University of Minnesota
Duluth, Minnesota 55812
email:  grad@ua.d.umn.edu

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Does anyone have any statistics on uniparental disomy? Which chromosomes
have been noted as being involved other than chr. 15? What conditions does
this cause other than those associated w/ chr. 15? I don't have e-mail so
post here please. Thanks............

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In article <1994Jan25.121352.13149@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, fjmd1@cl.cam.ac.uk
(Francis Davey) wrote:
> 
> In article <CJxHwG.4vM@sunblossom.ge.com> lamastus@sonic.dab.ge.com (Patrick Lamastus) writes:
> >Hi!,
> >
> >I'm sorry if this is not the proper group to post this, but
> >I don't know where else to ask.
> >
> >Knowing that women provides a Y chromosome (correct me if I'm wrong)
> *
> * most human females are XX, so would provide a single X chromosome
> *
> >and the male the X or the Y (correct me if I'm wrong) does the
> >male spermatocyte has X and Y or Only one (X or Y) before penetrates
> >the egg.
> *
> * again most human males are XY and therefore most sperm have a single
> * X or a single Y chromosome.
> *
> >
> >In other words does the spermatocyte has X or Y or both?
> >How is the sex determined?
> >
> *
> * Generally speaking an XX individual is female and an XY individual is male
> * things are a touch more complicated than this, you should ask someone who
> * knows rather more than I do if you are interested.
> *####there is a specific gene(s) on the Y chrom. loosely refered to as the sex determination gene that I belive has not been identified though is has been assigned to a narrow window (my info. also is prob. outdated).
> * Occasionally things do go wrong and people end up with exotic sex chromosomes
> * For example about 1/1000 males are XXY and a similar numer XYY. Similarly
> * the same proportion of women are XXX and about 1/10,000 women have Turner's
> * syndrome (a single X chromosome).
> *##### there are also cases where GENOTYPIC males (XY) are PHENOTYPIC females (they look female) due to things like mutation in the androgen receptor gene (androgen being a key player as far as hormomes go in maleness). This condition is known as testicular feminization. These individuals are sterile.
> * I believe that the fact that X sperm and Y sperm are not identical has been
> * used as a method of biasing conception in favour of a sex determined by the
> * parents.
> *####this technique is based upon the different densities of sperm (or other cells) and uses centrifugation to seperate cell type (those w/X and those w/Y). This is termed flow cytometry.
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Patrick Lamastus
> >
> >P.S. Please reply to me I don't have news so if you post your answer to the
> >news I will never be able to read it.
> >
> >E-MAIL: lamastus@sunny.dab.ge.com

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In article <CJxHwG.4vM@sunblossom.ge.com> lamastus@sonic.dab.ge.com (Patrick Lamastus) writes:
>Hi!,
>
>I'm sorry if this is not the proper group to post this, but
>I don't know where else to ask.
>
>Knowing that women provides a Y chromosome (correct me if I'm wrong)
*
* most human females are XX, so would provide a single X chromosome
*
>and the male the X or the Y (correct me if I'm wrong) does the
>male spermatocyte has X and Y or Only one (X or Y) before penetrates
>the egg.
*
* again most human males are XY and therefore most sperm have a single
* X or a single Y chromosome.
*
>
>In other words does the spermatocyte has X or Y or both?
>How is the sex determined?
>
*
* Generally speaking an XX individual is female and an XY individual is male
* things are a touch more complicated than this, you should ask someone who
* knows rather more than I do if you are interested.
*
* Occasionally things do go wrong and people end up with exotic sex chromosomes
* For example about 1/1000 males are XXY and a similar numer XYY. Similarly
* the same proportion of women are XXX and about 1/10,000 women have Turner's
* syndrome (a single X chromosome).
*
* I believe that the fact that X sperm and Y sperm are not identical has been
* used as a method of biasing conception in favour of a sex determined by the
* parents.
*
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Patrick Lamastus
>
>P.S. Please reply to me I don't have news so if you post your answer to the
>news I will never be able to read it.
>
>E-MAIL: lamastus@sunny.dab.ge.com



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I am embarking upon two rather interesting projects and would like to
benefit from the expertise and/or experience of people in this group.  I
will soon be presented with some tissue samples from beefalo (also
called cattalo in Canada) upon which to do some cytogenetic work.
Beefalo (cattalo) are hybrids between male beef cows and female buffalo
(bison).  One of my intents is to follow the inheritance of both cow and
buffalo chromosomes during subsequent inbreeding of the hybrids.

The other project involves the freshwater sturgeon (species:
fulvescens).  Although I have had a fair amount of experience with fish
cytogenetics, I have never worked with sturgeons.  I am assuming that
cell culture techniques and restriction methods appropriate for other
fish species would also work with sturgeons.

I will appreciate any and all comments about either of these two
projects.

Thanks,

Steve Hedman
Professor
Biology and Biochemistry/Molecular Biology
University of Minnesota
Duluth, Minnesota 55812
email:  grad@ua.d.umn.edu

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M. William Lensch (Lensch@chop.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone have any statistics on uniparental disomy? Which chromosomes
: have been noted as being involved other than chr. 15? What conditions does
: this cause other than those associated w/ chr. 15? I don't have e-mail so
: post here please. Thanks............

Updates concerning which chromsomes UPD has been observed for is published by
the 'committee for clinical disorders, chromosome abnormalities 
and uniparental disomy' as part of the Human Gene Mapping Workshops that are 
published by Cytogenetics and Cell Genetics.

Statistics: Ch15 maternal UPD occurs at a frequency of roughly 1/100,000.
Ch15 paternal UPD is much less frequently (roughly 1/500,000). No statistics
exist for any other chromosome.

Which chromosomes: 
Mat UPD has been observed for chromosome 4, 7, 9,13, 14, 15, 16, 21, 22.
Pat UPD has been observed for chromosomes 6,10, 14, 16, 21, X, XY.

Abnormal phenotype (besides homozygosity for recessive alleles:
Ch7 mat UPD -- short stature (e.g. Spotila et al. AJHG 1992 51:1396-1405).
Ch14 mat and pat UPD various findings including mild mental retardation
 (e.g. Antonarakis AJHG 52:1145-1152).
Ch15 mat UPD (Prader-Willi syndrome) pat UPD (Angelman syndrome).
Ch11 UPD(pat) is associated with Wilms Tumor and Beckwith-Wiedemann
syndrome. However this is segemental and seems to only exist as a post-
fertilization event. (see Henry et al. Eur. J Hum Genet 1:19-29).

For most other chromosomes there is either no imprinting effect, or the effect
of the UPD is obscured by presence of trisomic cell lines or recessive 
conditions. Chromosome 15 is the only UPD for which a clearly identifiable
syndrome is associated with UPD.


Wendy Robinson
Univ. of ZŸŸurich
Dept. of Medical Genetics
wendy@medgen.unizh.ch



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I recently sequenced a fungal gene that contained the sequence:

AATATTACTACTACTACTACTACTACT

within a transcribed but untranslated region.

A database search revealed a number of eucaryotes with this "TAC" repeat,
but investigation of the papers did not reveal anything of use about
this sequence.  Any help leading to info. about this sequence would be
appreciated.  

Tony Meyn
University of Arizona

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Patrick Lamastus writes:

>t his technique is based upon the different densities of sperm (or other cells) and uses centrifugation to seperate cell type (those w/X and those w/Y). This is termed flow cytometry.

Wrong, sorry. There have been a number of attempts to separate X and Y
sperm by differential centrifugation.  None have been repeatable.

Flow cytometry relies on separation of sperm based on fluorescence
staining.  This can be a specific in situ hybridisation stain (eg for a
region of the Y or X chromosome) or a generalised DNA stain that gives
information about the total DNA content.  Theoretically  X and Y sperm
differ in DNA content by about 2% but as this is less than the
within-gender variation you can see that there are big problems in
successful sorting.   The following refernces may help
Auger J, Leonce S, Jouannet P, Ronot X (1993): Flow cytometric sorting
of living, highly motile human spermatozoa based on evaluation of their
mitochondrial activity. J Histochem Cytochem 41:1247-51.
Cran DG, Johnson LA, Miller NG, Cochrane D, Polge C (1993): Production
of bovine calves following separation of X- and Y-chromosome    
bearing sperm and in vitro fertilisation. Vet Rec 132:40-1.
Dresser DW, Atkins CJ, Pinder A, Morrell JM (1993): Analyses of DNA
content of living spermatozoa using flow cytometry techniques. J Reprod
Fertil 98:357-365.
Johnson LA, Clarke RN (1988): Flow sorting of X and Y
chromosome-bearing mammalian sperm: activation and pronuclear
development of sorted bull, boar and ram sperm microinjected into
hamster oocytes. Gamete Res 21:335-343.
Johnson LA, Welch GR, Keyvanfar K, Dorfmann A, Fugger EF, Schulman JD
(1993): Gender preselection in humans? Flow cytometric separation of X
and Y spermatozoa for the prevention of X-linked diseases. Human Reprod
8:1733-1739.
Morrell JM (1991): Applications of flow cytometry to artificial
insemination: a review. Vet Rec 129:375-8.
Pasteur X, Maubon I, Sabido O, Cottier M, Laurent JL (1992): Comparison
of the chromatin stainability of human spermatozoa separated by
discontinuous Percoll gradient centrifugation. A flow cytometric
contribution. Anal Quant Cytol Histol 14:96-104.
Pasteur X, Sabido O, Maubon I, Perrin CM, Laurent JL (1991):
Quantitative assessment of chromatin stability alteration in human
spermatozoa induced by freezing and thawing. A flow cytometric study.
Anal Quant Cytol Histol 13:383-90.
Peter AT, Jones PP, Robinson JP (1993): Fractionation of bovine
spermatozoa for sex selection - a rapid immunomagnetic technique to
remove spermatozoa that contain the H Y antigen. Theriogenology
40:1177-1185.
Seligman J, Shalgi R, Oschry Y, Kosower NS (1991): Sperm analysis by
flow cytometry using the fluorescent thiol labeling agent
monobromobimane. Mol Reprod Devel 29:276-281.
Spano M, Evenson DP (1993): Flow cytometric analysis for reproductive
biology. Biology of the Cell 78:53-62.
Tao J, Du JY, Critser ES, Critser JK (1993): Assessment of the
acrosomal status and viability of human spermatozoa simultaneously
using flow cytometry. Human Reprod 8:1879-1885.


Jim Cummins                   
School of Veterinary Studies
Murdoch University
Western Australia 6150  Tel +61-9-360 2668 Fax +61-9-310 4144
"An inordinate fondness for Beetles"

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    A place to start that answers many of your questions about which 
    chromosomes are imprinted would be the American Journal of Human 
    Genetics for January 1990 by Hall J.  46:857-873 1990.
    



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Does anyone have any statistics on uniparental disomy? Which chromosomes
have been noted as being involved other than chr. 15? What conditions does
this cause other than those associated w/ chr. 15? I don't have e-mail so
post here please. Thanks............

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From: stephen hedman <grad@ua.d.umn.edu>
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I am embarking upon two rather interesting projects and would like to
benefit from the expertise and/or experience of people in this group.  I
will soon be presented with some tissue samples from beefalo (also
called cattalo in Canada) upon which to do some cytogenetic work.
Beefalo (cattalo) are hybrids between male beef cows and female buffalo
(bison).  One of my intents is to follow the inheritance of both cow and
buffalo chromosomes during subsequent inbreeding of the hybrids.

The other project involves the freshwater sturgeon (species:
fulvescens).  Although I have had a fair amount of experience with fish
cytogenetics, I have never worked with sturgeons.  I am assuming that
cell culture techniques and restriction methods appropriate for other
fish species would also work with sturgeons.

I will appreciate any and all comments about either of these two
projects.

Thanks,

Steve Hedman
Professor
Biology and Biochemistry/Molecular Biology
University of Minnesota
Duluth, Minnesota 55812
email:  grad@ua.d.umn.edu

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M. William Lensch (Lensch@chop.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone have any statistics on uniparental disomy? Which chromosomes
: have been noted as being involved other than chr. 15? What conditions does
: this cause other than those associated w/ chr. 15? I don't have e-mail so
: post here please. Thanks............

Updates concerning which chromsomes UPD has been observed for is published by
the 'committee for clinical disorders, chromosome abnormalities 
and uniparental disomy' as part of the Human Gene Mapping Workshops that are 
published by Cytogenetics and Cell Genetics.

Statistics: Ch15 maternal UPD occurs at a frequency of roughly 1/100,000.
Ch15 paternal UPD is much less frequently (roughly 1/500,000). No statistics
exist for any other chromosome.

Which chromosomes: 
Mat UPD has been observed for chromosome 4, 7, 9,13, 14, 15, 16, 21, 22.
Pat UPD has been observed for chromosomes 6,10, 14, 16, 21, X, XY.

Abnormal phenotype (besides homozygosity for recessive alleles:
Ch7 mat UPD -- short stature (e.g. Spotila et al. AJHG 1992 51:1396-1405).
Ch14 mat and pat UPD various findings including mild mental retardation
 (e.g. Antonarakis AJHG 52:1145-1152).
Ch15 mat UPD (Prader-Willi syndrome) pat UPD (Angelman syndrome).
Ch11 UPD(pat) is associated with Wilms Tumor and Beckwith-Wiedemann
syndrome. However this is segemental and seems to only exist as a post-
fertilization event. (see Henry et al. Eur. J Hum Genet 1:19-29).

For most other chromosomes there is either no imprinting effect, or the effect
of the UPD is obscured by presence of trisomic cell lines or recessive 
conditions. Chromosome 15 is the only UPD for which a clearly identifiable
syndrome is associated with UPD.


Wendy Robinson
Univ. of ZŸŸurich
Dept. of Medical Genetics
wendy@medgen.unizh.ch



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Subject: Re: Help with determination of sex
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In article <1994Jan25.121352.13149@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, fjmd1@cl.cam.ac.uk
(Francis Davey) wrote:
> 
> In article <CJxHwG.4vM@sunblossom.ge.com> lamastus@sonic.dab.ge.com (Patrick Lamastus) writes:
> >Hi!,
> >
> >I'm sorry if this is not the proper group to post this, but
> >I don't know where else to ask.
> >
> >Knowing that women provides a Y chromosome (correct me if I'm wrong)
> *
> * most human females are XX, so would provide a single X chromosome
> *
> >and the male the X or the Y (correct me if I'm wrong) does the
> >male spermatocyte has X and Y or Only one (X or Y) before penetrates
> >the egg.
> *
> * again most human males are XY and therefore most sperm have a single
> * X or a single Y chromosome.
> *
> >
> >In other words does the spermatocyte has X or Y or both?
> >How is the sex determined?
> >
> *
> * Generally speaking an XX individual is female and an XY individual is male
> * things are a touch more complicated than this, you should ask someone who
> * knows rather more than I do if you are interested.
> *####there is a specific gene(s) on the Y chrom. loosely refered to as the sex determination gene that I belive has not been identified though is has been assigned to a narrow window (my info. also is prob. outdated).
> * Occasionally things do go wrong and people end up with exotic sex chromosomes
> * For example about 1/1000 males are XXY and a similar numer XYY. Similarly
> * the same proportion of women are XXX and about 1/10,000 women have Turner's
> * syndrome (a single X chromosome).
> *##### there are also cases where GENOTYPIC males (XY) are PHENOTYPIC females (they look female) due to things like mutation in the androgen receptor gene (androgen being a key player as far as hormomes go in maleness). This condition is known as testicular feminization. These individuals are sterile.
> * I believe that the fact that X sperm and Y sperm are not identical has been
> * used as a method of biasing conception in favour of a sex determined by the
> * parents.
> *####this technique is based upon the different densities of sperm (or other cells) and uses centrifugation to seperate cell type (those w/X and those w/Y). This is termed flow cytometry.
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Patrick Lamastus
> >
> >P.S. Please reply to me I don't have news so if you post your answer to the
> >news I will never be able to read it.
> >
> >E-MAIL: lamastus@sunny.dab.ge.com

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From: leach@mbcrr.harvard.edu (Martin Leach)
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Subject: ### REAL TIME SCIENCE DISCUSSION ###
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Dear netters,

for those who haven't tried BioMOO they should.

Its a real time world where scientists can communicate.

to get there 

telnet bioinfo.weizmann.ac.il 8888

or if this doesnt work try

telnet bioinfo.weizmann.ac.il 8888 /port=8888


and connect as a guest or register.

I am bringing this to everyones attention as i am thinking of starting a
molbiol discussion group in this world. Last Friday was held the first
journal club in the seminar room on BioMOO. Up to 28 people were logged on
and I hear it was a very interesting experience. The journal club is about
evolutionary biology (i think).

If any one is interested try telnetting to the BioMOO.

Any problems then contact bmgustav@bioinformatics.weizmann.ac.il


Bolo on

Martin Leach



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In article <2ia98nINNbov@newsman.csu.murdoch.edu.au>,
cummins@possum.murdoch.edu.au (Jim Cummins) wrote:
> 
> 
> Patrick Lamastus writes:
> 
> >t his technique is based upon the different densities of sperm (or other cells) and uses centrifugation to seperate cell type (those w/X and those w/Y). This is termed flow cytometry.
> 
> Wrong, sorry. There have been a number of attempts to separate X and Y
> sperm by differential centrifugation.  None have been repeatable.
> 
> Flow cytometry relies on separation of sperm based on fluorescence
> staining.  This can be a specific in situ hybridisation stain (eg for a
> region of the Y or X chromosome) or a generalised DNA stain that gives
> information about the total DNA content.  Theoretically  X and Y sperm
> differ in DNA content by about 2% but as this is less than the
> within-gender variation you can see that there are big problems in
> successful sorting.   The following refernces may help
> Auger J, Leonce S, Jouannet P, Ronot X (1993): Flow cytometric sorting
> of living, highly motile human spermatozoa based on evaluation of their
> mitochondrial activity. J Histochem Cytochem 41:1247-51.
> Cran DG, Johnson LA, Miller NG, Cochrane D, Polge C (1993): Production
> of bovine calves following separation of X- and Y-chromosome    
> bearing sperm and in vitro fertilisation. Vet Rec 132:40-1.
> Dresser DW, Atkins CJ, Pinder A, Morrell JM (1993): Analyses of DNA
> content of living spermatozoa using flow cytometry techniques. J Reprod
> Fertil 98:357-365.
> Johnson LA, Clarke RN (1988): Flow sorting of X and Y
> chromosome-bearing mammalian sperm: activation and pronuclear
> development of sorted bull, boar and ram sperm microinjected into
> hamster oocytes. Gamete Res 21:335-343.
> Johnson LA, Welch GR, Keyvanfar K, Dorfmann A, Fugger EF, Schulman JD
> (1993): Gender preselection in humans? Flow cytometric separation of X
> and Y spermatozoa for the prevention of X-linked diseases. Human Reprod
> 8:1733-1739.
> Morrell JM (1991): Applications of flow cytometry to artificial
> insemination: a review. Vet Rec 129:375-8.
> Pasteur X, Maubon I, Sabido O, Cottier M, Laurent JL (1992): Comparison
> of the chromatin stainability of human spermatozoa separated by
> discontinuous Percoll gradient centrifugation. A flow cytometric
> contribution. Anal Quant Cytol Histol 14:96-104.
> Pasteur X, Sabido O, Maubon I, Perrin CM, Laurent JL (1991):
> Quantitative assessment of chromatin stability alteration in human
> spermatozoa induced by freezing and thawing. A flow cytometric study.
> Anal Quant Cytol Histol 13:383-90.
> Peter AT, Jones PP, Robinson JP (1993): Fractionation of bovine
> spermatozoa for sex selection - a rapid immunomagnetic technique to
> remove spermatozoa that contain the H Y antigen. Theriogenology
> 40:1177-1185.
> Seligman J, Shalgi R, Oschry Y, Kosower NS (1991): Sperm analysis by
> flow cytometry using the fluorescent thiol labeling agent
> monobromobimane. Mol Reprod Devel 29:276-281.
> Spano M, Evenson DP (1993): Flow cytometric analysis for reproductive
> biology. Biology of the Cell 78:53-62.
> Tao J, Du JY, Critser ES, Critser JK (1993): Assessment of the
> acrosomal status and viability of human spermatozoa simultaneously
> using flow cytometry. Human Reprod 8:1879-1885.
> 
> 
> Jim Cummins                   
> School of Veterinary Studies
> Murdoch University
> Western Australia 6150  Tel +61-9-360 2668 Fax +61-9-310 4144
> "An inordinate fondness for Beetles"

####Just to set the record straight, the blunder about flow cytometery and
sperm was mine, and not Patrick Lamastus (sorry Patrick). -Will, U. of
Penn./Neurology

