From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Apr 02 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!news.pavilion.co.uk!line03.kemp-du.pavilion.co.uk!user
From: jpwscyto@pavilion.co.uk (Jon Waterman-Smith)
Newsgroups: bionet.chlamydomonas,bionet.diagnostics,bionet.drosophila,bionet.general,bionet.genome.arabidopsis,bionet.genome.chrom22,bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: LAUNCH OF FREE MAGS/WWW PAGES FOR BIONET...
Date: 3 Apr 1995 09:48:11 GMT
Organization: Pavilion Internet plc, Brighton, England
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Within the next 6 weeks a new series of magazines will be launched, which
will have a hard copy available to interested parties, as well as a major
publication series available on the web. The magazines will deal with many
subject areas, and will have hypertext points imprinted into features, so
the reader can access the WWW, and simply go to the relevant pages,
following the same hypertext links as shown in the magazines.

The future.......

Our aim is to promote science, and scientific issues mainly in the field
of bioscience. Both the magazines and the WWW pages will eventually have
articles and links to publications, posters, and as many products and
suppliers as we can get interested in publishing with us. So, if you know
of anyone who would be interested in providing articles, publishing
information to assist other scientists, or you work for a company who
wants to advertise , and set up pages on the WWW, we aim to become the one
stop point to leap off into the web, and other internet areas. Send me an
email, and I'll keep you up to date on our progress. Also let me know if
you want to  register for the first issue of the first magazine to be
published early May '95. Diagnostics, Biotechnology and Life-sciences will
be the areas first targeted for publication.

TO ALL INTERESTED ADVERTISERS - the deadline for the first issue will be
in 3-4 weeks time. Please contact me urgently for more information - your
advert will also secure you web space and hypertext links!!!!!

I look forward to hearing from you all...
Best wishes,
Jon Waterman-Smith   E-mail address.....  jpwscyto@pavilion.co.uk

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Apr 02 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!cgwu
From: cgwu@iastate.edu (Chenggang Wu)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Help
Date: 3 Apr 1995 15:31:15 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
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Hi, I need help. I don't have reference in my hand.

	My questions are:

	How many chromosome number is in carrot?
        Is it diploid or triploid in carrot?

	Your early reply will be highly appreciate.

My e-mail address: pli@iastate.edu

        Thanks in advance.
Ping Li
-- 
ChengGang Wu
cgwu@iastate.edu

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!fdn.fr!uunet!newsflash.concordia.ca!CC.UMontreal.CA!bilinskr
From: bilinskr@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Bilinski Robert)
Subject: QC-PCR problem
Message-ID: <D6HrI3.25I@cc.umontreal.ca>
Keywords: quantitative competitive PCR, t(14;18)
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 03:39:37 GMT
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	Hello, i'm using a friend's account to write this, feel free to 
send him any and all replies (as well as posting them on the newsgroup 
for the benefit of others...). Oh... and i must warn you that my english 
is not the best in the world...

	I'm trying to develop a competitive PCR method to quantify cell
characterized by translocation (14;18). I cloned a PCR product of a cell
line harboring this translocation, and now I must purify it and dilute it
to use it like an internal control. And I had some bugs with my plasmid's
purification (I have ribonucleotides and my 260\280 D.O. are 1.7) I think
i know why it's difficult for me to obtain a fonctionnnal dilution. It's
probably due to missquantification of my plasmid DNA stock. 

	Are there any other possible explanations for this phenomena? 
Could someone suggest a possible solution to this problem?

	Other usefull info:
		- I used a QIAGEN kit for maxiprep
		- I isolated the digested plasmid from agarose gel to 
obtain purer DNA but I failed in this attempt. (this was the solution i 
tried when i saw a RNA and ribonucleotide contamination in a DNA stock 
solution)


	I would appreciate any help anyone can offer...


						Thanks in advance
						Brigitte

ps: i"m also looking for any ressources available for people doing PCR in 
the Montreal region (province of Quebec, Canada), or maybe the names of 
other researchers (or groups of) in the same field close by... I'm 
presently the only one in my research center involved in such work (HMR, 
affiliated with The Universite de Montreal)  

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
Newsgroups: bionet.microbiology,bionet.genome.chromosomes,bionet.genome.chrom22,bionet.general,bionet.emf-bio
Path: biosci!ns1.faseb.org!darwin.sura.net!nih-csl!lhc!news
From: recipon@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (Herve Recipon)
Subject: Improvements to BLAST databases
Message-ID: <1995Apr4.160758.3529@nlm.nih.gov>
Sender: news@nlm.nih.gov
Reply-To: recipon@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Center for Biotechnology Information
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:07:58 GMT
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Xref: biosci bionet.microbiology:1910 bionet.genome.chromosomes:532 bionet.general:14484 bionet.emf-bio:230



As part of NCBI's ongoing efforts to provide BLAST users with access to
the most up-to-date, comprehensive and useful databases, the following
changes are planned for BLAST databases:

1)  Closer synchronization between BLAST and other NCBI databases.

2)  Separation of EST data from other non-redundant nucleotide sequences.

3)  A new non-redundant protein sequence database.

4)  Discontinued support for seldom-used or unmaintained databases.

We expect to implement these changes in July 1995.  More details about
each proposed change are provided below.  If you have any questions or
concerns, please direct them to blast-help@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Closer synchronization between BLAST and other databases:

     BLAST databases will be built from the same source data that are
     now used for Entrez, the Retrieve e-mail server and the daily
     updates.  This means that sequences identified in a BLAST search
     will always be accessible from NCBI search services.

     As part of the project to improve synchrony among BLAST and other
     forms of the sequence databases, every sequence will have a
     unique identifier called the "gi" number.  The gi number of an
     entry changes with each update to the sequence data, something not
     necessarily true for the accession number or locus name.  This
     will allow Entrez or Retrieve users to be certain that they are
     retrieving exactly the same revision of the sequence identified
     by BLAST.  Additionally a gi number allows easy automated
     retrieval of sequences from database interfaces.  Retrieval by 
     accession number or locus name will, of course, continue to be 
     supported.

     The non-redundant BLAST nucleotide databases contain all of the
     data submitted to the international sequence database
     collaborators: GenBank, EMBL and DDBJ.  Since data are quickly
     exchanged among the three, there is no need to search them
     individually.  Therefore the option of specifying a specific
     database will be removed.  Users may be assured of searching all
     publically available sequences, regardless of the database of
     origin.

Separation of EST data:

     In order to give users more control over their BLAST searches, the
     EST division will be split off from the other GenBank divisions.
     This separation is necessitated by the phenomenal growth in the
     EST division, which will increase by about 4000 to 6000
     sequences/week until the summer of 1996.  Partitioning the
     non-redundant database will assure that non-EST matches are not
     masked by the tremendous number of EST sequences.  Conversely it
     will be straightforward to search the EST division and be assured
     of only EST hits.  While this change will require that some users
     modify their search strategy, we believe that the ability to
     better specify the contents of the database will make BLAST
     searches much more productive for most users.  The reconfigured
     databases will retain the names "nr" and "dbest" so as not to
     break existing scripts.  The "new" nr will also differ from the
     current non-redundant nucleotide database in having a common
     origin with Entrez and other NCBI source databases.


New non-redundant protein sequence database:
 
     The protein sequences now available in Entrez will be searchable
     in a non-redundant database called "nr".  This database will be
     comprised of pdb; swiss-prot; pir sequences not found in pdb or
     swiss-prot; prf not covered in pdb, swiss-prot or pir; and all
     conceptual translations from GenBank sequences not in any of the
     other databases.  As with the non-redundant nucleotide database,
     the nr protein database will be derived from the same source as
     Entrez and other NCBI databases.
 
     A second new protein sequence database containing only sequences
     from swiss-prot and pdb will also be available.  This database,
     called "spdb", will allow users to restrict searches to these two
     highly annotated sources.
 
Discontinued support for databases:
 
     The Kabat, EPD, and TFD databases are either infrequently used or
     not regularly updated.  Therefore BLAST access to these databases
     will be discontinued.

--blast-help@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov



From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Tue Apr 04 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!news.ttu.edu!aurora.LaTech.edu!darwin.sura.net!udel!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!nntp.ski.mskcc.org!mac-93.k-g2.ski.mskcc.org!user
From: d-burtrum@ski.mskcc.org,mrtour@stud.med.cornell.edu (michelle or doug......)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: help in looking at gross chromatin structure...
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 14:07:31 -0500
Organization: Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
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Our lab has a set of transgenic mice which overexpress a specific protein
in the lymphoid tissues.  Preliminary data suggests that the chromatin
structure in transgenic tissues has been modified in some way such that
the chromatin is more dense or has interrupted protein interaction...

I need suggestions for many different ways to test this...

microscopy, enzyme digestions or any other suggestions are greatly welcome.


frazelled grad

michelle
mrtour@stud.med.cornell.edu

-- 
db

or Michelle

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Tue Apr 04 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!pipex!uknet!daresbury!not-for-mail
From: "rifat_h@icr.ac.uk" <rifat_h@icr.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Amersham Vistra Sequencing Robot
Date: 5 Apr 1995 13:03:28 +0100
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Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk
Distribution: bionet
Message-ID: <3lu0ug$94e@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>
X-Mts: smtp
X-Authentication-Warning: jupiter: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol
Original-To: biochrom@dl.ac.uk

Hi, 

    Has anyone tried the Amersham Vistra Robot for automated DNA Sequencing, and if so
what kind of success rate was achieved. I have tried the Taq terminator sequencing on
with variable degree of success.

Thanx.

Rifat.


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Apr 05 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: lstein@genome.wi.mit.edu (Lincoln Stein)
Newsgroups: bionet.announce,bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: RELEASE 6 OF WHITEHEAD/MIT HUMAN GENOMIC MAPPING PROJECT
Date: 5 Apr 1995 10:34:29 -0700
Organization: Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research
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                          ANNOUNCING:
      WHITEHEAD INSTITUTE/MIT CENTER FOR GENOME RESEARCH
               HUMAN GENOMIC MAPPING PROJECT 
                 DATA RELEASE 6 (MARCH 1995)
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The sixth release of data from the Human Physical Mapping
Project at the Whitehead Institute/MIT Genome Center, covering data
generated through the end of March, 1995, is now available.

This data release contains YAC screening data for 8868 sequence tagged
sites (STSs) screened on the CEPH mega-YAC library.  For each STS, we
report addresses for the YACs found to contain the STS. From the data
obtained so far, there are over 1100 contigs assembled using double
linkage between STSs.

The data is available electronically in two ways.  

ANONYMOUS FTP: The entire data release is available as a set of
Microsoft Excel files and tab-delimited ascii files on our ftp
server.  Using an ftp client (such as "Fetch" on the Macintosh),
connect to 

	ftp-genome.wi.mit.edu

Use "anonymous" as your user name, and give your e-mail address as your
password.  The data files are present in the directory 
/distribution/human_STS_releases/mar95.

The contents are as follows:

  03-95.INTRO.mswd.hqx - Description of the data release, Macintosh format.
  03-95.INTRO.txt - The same as ascii text
  03-95.STS2YAC.sea.hqx - STS & YAC screening data, in MS-Excel format.
  03-95.STS2YAC.txt - The same as tab-delimited text.
  03-95.YAC2STS.txt - Inverse map of YAC to STS screening data
  03-95.CONTIG2STS.txt - Doubly-linked contig information
  03-95.sequence.txt    - Full sequences of previously unpublished STSs.

THE WORLD-WIDE WEB: You will need a World Wide Web client such as
Mosaic (Unix, MS-Windows and Macintosh) or MacWeb (Macintosh). 
Instruct your client to connect to 

      http://www-genome.wi.mit.edu/

>From there, follow the "Human Physical Mapping Project" link.  You will be
able to browse and download the raw data set as well as to view
doubly-linked contigs.

A subset of the STSs (those for which we have chromosomal assignments)
are also available through the Genome Database (GDB).

QUESTIONS AND PROBLEMS.  If users have any questions or problems,
please contact us at human_STS_help@genome.wi.mit.edu We invite
suggestions about how to make these data release most useful.

DATA RELEASE POLICY AND CITATION.  Data releases are scheduled monthly.
At the end of each month, all genomic mapping
data are reviewed and prepared for distribution via CGR's electronic
databases.  Data releases typically occur within a week of the
close of the month. Releases are announced by electronic messages 
posted to the following two newsgroups: "bionet.genome.chromosomes" and
"bionet.announce". 

CGR's data release policy aims to ensure that scientific colleagues
have immediate access to information that may assist them in the
search for genes. Data releases do not constitute scientific
publication of CGR's work, but rather provide scientists with a
regular look into our lab notebooks.   For projects aimed at the
analysis of particular genes or subchromosomal regions, permission is
hereby granted to use our data without the need for a formal
collaboration, subject only to appropriate acknowledgment.   For
projects aimed at large-scale mapping of entire chromosomes or entire
genomes, use of the data and markers should be on a collaborative
basis.

The information for the human genome mapping project should be cited
as: Whitehead Institute/MIT Center for Genome Research, Human Physical
Mapping Project, Data Release 6 (March 1995).



-- 
========================================================================
Lincoln D. Stein                Whitehead Institute/MIT Genome Center
lstein@genome.wi.mit.edu	Cambridge, MA 02142

             http://www-genome.wi.mit.edu/~lstein
========================================================================

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Apr 09 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBING, BIOSCI ARCHIVES, ADDRESS DATABASE & BIOSCI FAQ
Date: 10 Apr 1995 02:00:27 -0700
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Four important items follow: How to cancel e-mail subscriptions to
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				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

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CARDIOVASCULAR-RESEARCH    bionet.biology.cardiovascular
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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Apr 09 23:00:00 1995
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From: John Leslie <74740.247@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.genome.arabidopsis,bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Need guests for radio program
Date: 9 Apr 1995 14:43:17 GMT
Organization: World Radio Inc.
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I am the host of a syndicated radio program.  We interview 9 
guests each weekend.  Would you make an interesting guest?
Please E-Mail me.

-- 
Jan L Kokochak

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Apr 09 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!sunic!sunic.sunet.se!news.funet.fi!news.csc.fi!cscslip.csc.fi!user
From: engelhar@csc.fi (Peter Engelhardt)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Where to find Abs to topo II?
Followup-To: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 01:03:53 +0200
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I am looking after Abs to nonhistones specially to topoisomerase II. 
Could somebody inform me if they are available and where?
I should also be interested in Abs to histones.

Peter Engelhardt, Ph D
Research Fellow
Department of Virology,
P.O.Box 21 (Haartmaninkatu 3)
SF-00014 University of Helsinki,
Finland

Tel:	EM-laboratory+358-0-4346507  (direct)
CSC computer facilities +358-0-4573229 

Fax:    +358-0-4346491 

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Apr 10 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!rutgers!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!NewsWatcher!user
From: rwf@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Robert Feakes)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes,bionet.molbio.genome-program
Subject: Online Automated DNA Sequencing Troubleshooting Guide
Date: 11 Apr 1995 12:51:54 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Genetics, Univ. of Cambridge. UK.
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Following discussions with people at a number of sites I am trying to
establish an online automated DNA sequencing troubleshooting guide.

This will be done using the WWW and ftp. Users may submit sequencing
sample files showing the problems they are having, which may be in
template preparation, sequence interpretation or washing the glass
plates, for example. Others will then download the sample file and then
offer suggestions as to what may be the problem. Hopefully this will over
time build up into a resource containing details of many of the common and
not so common problems encountered in automated sequencing.

I should say that my experience so far has been with ABI373As and so
anyone using other machines who has any suggestions for how this might be
better handled with respect to those machines should say so.

This initial proposal is to help me get some idea of the level of interest
in the guide and also to gather suggestions as to its structure and
content. For example, one important aspect if an archive is to be
established is a suitable classification system to enable users to find
the files they want quickly. An initial system might be by sequencing
chemistry with sub-categories by type of template, for example.

I am very keen for this to go ahead and would welcome expressions of
interest and any suggestions.

I would also welcome responses from people willing to run "mirror" sites,
particularly in the US and Japan, to reduce traffic and the load on our
server.

Robert Feakes
rwf@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Apr 12 23:00:00 1995
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From: Luc.Simon@rsvs.ulaval.ca (Luc Simon)
Subject: Re: Online Automated DNA Sequencing Troubleshooting Guide
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In article <rwf-1104951349190001@131.111.46.104>, rwf@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk
(Robert Feakes) wrote:

> Following discussions with people at a number of sites I am trying to
> establish an online automated DNA sequencing troubleshooting guide.
> 
...
Great idea!!


> I am very keen for this to go ahead and would welcome expressions of
> interest and any suggestions.
> 
> I would also welcome responses from people willing to run "mirror" sites,
> particularly in the US and Japan, to reduce traffic and the load on our
> server.
> 
I am willing to set up a mirror here as soon as you have something going
on your side of the pool!

-- 
Luc Simon

Universite Laval
Ste-Foy, Quebec

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Apr 12 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: andrewt@r-node.io.org (Andrew Thomas)
Newsgroups: bionet.cellbiol,bionet.general,bionet.genome.chromosomes,bionet.immunology,bionet.microbiology,bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.molbio.proteins,bionet.molec-model,bionet.mycology,bionet.plants,bionet.software,bionet.virology
Subject: SURVEY - Things we'd like to see (commercial)
Date: 13 Apr 1995 14:44:34 -0700
Organization: Sakura Software Inc., Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
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I am posting this for a business consulting company.  It is a
questionnaire on the subject of lab techniques, equipment and software
in the biotechnology field, with an eye toward introducing prducts
into those areas where respondents feel there are weaknesses.  This is
your chance to complain about everything from overpriced equipment to
ergonomic disfunction :-).  Please send responses to one of the two
addresses below:

	couper@magi.com
	andrewt@io.org

Thanks in advance,
	Andrew Thomas

-------------------------------------------------------------

                                                April 5, 1995

ADP & Associates
42 Rideau River Lane
Ottawa, Ontario
K1S 0X1

TEL:   (613)526-5609
email: couper@magi.com



We are a business consulting company conducting a market study
on  behalf  of a research and development group interested  in
expanding into biotechnology. Our client is specialized in the
creation  of  new  and  innovative scientific  equipment.  The
object of this survey is to get the direct input of the actual
users  of  the  intended technology. Our client is  constantly
looking  to  develop  products that will simplify  your  work,
save you time, improve safety and reduce your operating costs.

In the questionnaire we have tried to find a balance where the
questions will simultaneously cover all our respondants  areas
of interest and be specific enough for their particular needs.
We  have  also tried to keep it as short as possible.   Should
you  find  that our questionnaire does not adequately  address
your  interests, please feel free to add your comments at  the
end.  All of your comments are valuable to us and all of  your
ideas  have  potential.  Our client is  capable  of  producing
products  with  a varying range of complexity, from  the  most
rudimentary test-tubes to specialized automation hardware  and
computer software. Should your suggestion be a starting  point
for   an   actual   product,   you   will   qualify   for   an
idea/development bonus of $500.00

We  would like to take this opportunity to thank you for  your
valuable  input. If you have any questions or require  further
information  please  feel  free to contact  us  at  the  above
address or telephone number.

If  you would like to be kept informed of our client's product
development, please print your name, address and FAX number at
the bottom of the questionnaire.


Yours truly,
A. Douglas Palmer.

--------------------------------------------------------------

                        Questionnaire

1.   What   are  the  three  most  time  consuming  tasks   or
     procedures carried out in your laboratory?



2.   Is equipment used in performing these tasks?     [Yes/No]
     If so, what?

     If not, what would you like to see made available?

3.   What types of equipment or tools for research, production
     or management would you like to see made available to you
     (not currently available on the market)?
     1.
     2.
     3.
     4.
     5.

     What  improvements (not available on the market) to  your
     current equipment would you like to see? Please describe.


4.   What  types  of  equipment or tools, which  you  are  not
     currently  using, would you purchase if  it  were  priced
     lower?  What type of equipment or tools do you  feel  you
     are paying too much for?


5.   What dangerous activities do you regularly perform? Could
     they be made safer with better tools or equipment?


6.   What  are  some of the more "menial" tasks  performed  in
     your  laboratory?  (tasks which use up valuable personnel
     hours, taking away from research).


7.   Could  your  daily operations be improved by the  use  of
     specialized computer software?                   [Yes/No]
 

     What should this software be capable of achieving? Please
     provide as much detail as you feel appropriate.

     Log book
     Data Manipulation
     Data Analysis
     Database
     Graphics
     Product interfaces
     Simulation and Prediction
     Control and Monitoring of Equipment
     Other


8.   What  are  your fields of expertise? Please  indicate  as
     many as appropriate. (Please be as specific as you can).

     Biochemistry
     Microbiology
     Genetic Research
     Virology
     Plant Research
     Animal Research
     Medical Research
     Pharmaceuticals
     Other.


9.   Is   your   research   primarily   market   oriented   or
     investigative?


10.  What   is   the  size  of  your  laboratory  (number   of
     personnel)?

     1 - 5
     6 - 10
     11 - 15
     16 - 20
     > 20


11.  Which trade publications do you read?
     1.
     2.
     3.
     4
     5


12.  If you have any other comments or suggestions please feel
     free to put them here.




         Name: 

 Work Address: 

        FAX #: 

email address: 
--
Andrew Thomas - President, Sakura Software Inc.
Watch for SCADALisp - Real-time control and UI language for QNX/UNIX
For information, email andrewt@io.org

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Apr 13 23:00:00 1995
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.genome.arabidopsis,bionet.genome.chromosomes
Path: biosci!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!news.sprintlink.net!crash!pzcc.bitenet!news
From: Bruno Novi <brunging@cts.com>
Subject: Re: Need guests for radio program
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 05:42:56 GMT
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What kind of guests are you looking for? I word at San Diego State University, and I may be able to help. Please e-mail me more info on your program. Where it is broadcast from, where it goes, who is the audience, what type of guests have you had in the past (like who?), etc. Be happy to help out. Please use my e-mail address at the university: gjulian@mail.sdsu.edu

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Apr 13 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!rutgers!rockyd!cmcl2!usenet
From: Gary Welz <gwelz@panix.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Is the genome like a computer program?
Date: 14 Apr 1995 01:04:34 GMT
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I'm writing a speculative article about the large scale structure of the genome. Does anyone besides me think 
that an organism's genome can be regarded as a computer program?  I mean that its structure can be presented as 
a flowchart with genes as objects connected by logical terms like "and" and "or?"  Of course, conditional 
activity in the genome - the analog of the "while" loop - has been studied for some time. 

One development that might support this point of view is the recent demonstration (reported in last week's 
Science) that the eyeless gene can be inserted into various parts of the chromosome of a fly and cause it to 
have eyes grow on different parts of its body.  Is eyeless a free standing genetic object that can be plugged 
into any syntactically correct sequence and function as though it belonged there naturally?  If so, what is the 
nature of the programming language that makes this possible?

Dr. Gene Stanley and others at Boston U. and Harvard Medical School have done statistical analyses of 
non-coding DNA sequences (published in Physical Review Letters a few months ago) that suggest that there may be 
linguistic structures, i.e. words within them.  Are some of these non-coding sequences the terms of the genetic 
programming language?

If this is interesting to you, or if you think its bogus, let me know.

Mr. Gary Welz
Dept. of Mathematics
John Jay College, CUNY



From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Apr 13 23:00:00 1995
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Path: biosci!lhc!news
From: makalow@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (Wojtek Makalowski)
Subject: mouse chromosomes
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Hi,
I'm looking for physical (Mb) and genetic (cM) parameters of mouse genome.
Any suggestion of reference will be appreciated,

Wojtek Makalowski


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Apr 13 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!GDB.ORG!rrobbins
From: rrobbins@GDB.ORG (Robert Robbins)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Is the genome like a computer program?
Date: 14 Apr 1995 06:41:43 -0700
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Gary,

This is an area to which I have given some thought (and in fact have even
written about it a bit and have added a discussion of the subject to a 
course I teach at Johns Hopkins).

The genome is like a mass storage device (with properties not shared by
current electronic mass-storage devices), but the programs that it encodes
differ significantly from current computer technology.

Each parent contributes one set of mass-storage devices (23 chromosomes)
so that the resulting single cell has two full sets of the programs (that
may, and do, differ from each other).  

Although the genetic code is without doubt a digital code, the level of
parallelism that exists in the expression of these codes is such that many
aspects of the system have more in common with an analog system than with
a digital one.  If we assume that the transcription of a gene, followed
by the synthesis of an enzyme is the spawning of an executing process,
then each single cell has millions of programs executing in a truly
parallel (i.e., independent execution, no time sharing) mode. 

By the time the single cell produced by the union of sperm and egg has
grown into an adult, there are probably well in excess of 10**13 cells,
each with two copies of the mass-storage devices, and each running
somewhere in excess of 10**5 to 10**6 processes in parallel.  Many of the
spawned processes affect the launching of other processes, so the level of
feed-back control is high.  Hormones produced in one cell may affect the
expression of genes (i.e., the launching of processes) in other cells, so
in principle the processes running in any of the 10**13 cells could affect
the launching o processes in any of the other 10**13 cells.  Proteins may
interact with each other, so processes may affect processes, and there is
certainly a lot of inter-process interaction.  

Taken all together then, the expression of the human genome involves the
simultaneous expression and (potential) interaction of something probably
in excess of 10**18 parallel processes.  

Given this, it is not likely that intuitions derived from an understanding
of the operation of programs on present computer architectures will
generalize well to the expression of the genome.

Differences also exist in the mass-storage devices as well.  The genome
can be thought of as a mass-storage device based on a linked-list
architecture, rather than a physical platter.  All addressing is
associative, with multiple read heads scanning the device in parallel,
looking for specific START LOADING HERE signals.  When such a signal is
encountered, the read head starts transcribing DNA and continues doing so
until a STOP LOADING HERE signal is encountered.  [The resulting transcript
is like a *.EXE file, rather than a *.COM file.  On Intel systems, *.COM
files are perfect memory images that may be loaded verbatim into memory
and then execute when control is passed to the first byte.  *.EXE files,
on the other hand, are a mixture of instructions to the loader and
instructions to be executed.  After the loader instructions are executed,
the program (now different from that stored on the mass-storage device) is
placed in memory and control passed to it.]

Genome programs execute on a virtual machine that is defined by some of
the genomic programs that are executing.  Thus, in trying to understand
the genome, we are trying to reverse engineer binaries for an unknown CPU,
in fact for a virtual CPU whose properties are encoded in the binaries we
are trying to reverse engineer.

We do know that "genomic op codes" are probabilistic, rather than
deterministic.  That is, when control hits a particular op code, there is
a certain probability that a certain action will occur. This applies to
the associative addresses on the mass storage device as well.  Intuitions
from current hardware suggests that this would make for intermittent,
jerky behavior of the system.  However, in such a massively parallel
system, probabilistic op codes actually smooth out the behavior of the
system by providing some buffering capacity (in the chemical, not computer
I/O, sense of buffering). 

I could go on, but I hope my general point is made.  I offer some
additional comments below in response to your specific inquiries.



On 14 Apr 1995, Gary Welz wrote:

> I'm writing a speculative article about the large scale structure of the genome.
Does anyone besides me think 
> that an organism's genome can be regarded as a computer program?  I mean that
its structure can be presented as 
> a flowchart with genes as objects connected by logical terms like "and" and "or?" 
Of course, conditional 
> activity in the genome - the analog of the "while" loop - has been studied for
some time. 

Flow charts describe the behavior of a non-parallel machine.  Although
some aspects of a massively parallel system can be expressed
(metaphorically) as a flow chart of linearly executing steps, care must be
taken in interpreting that flow chart.


> One development that might support this point of view is the recent demonstration
(reported in last week's 
> Science) that the eyeless gene can be inserted into various parts of the
chromosome of a fly and cause it to 
> have eyes grow on different parts of its body.  Is eyeless a free standing
genetic object that can be plugged 
> into any syntactically correct sequence and function as though it belonged there
naturally?  If so, what is the 
> nature of the programming language that makes this possible?

The expression of single processes (like MAKE HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE or MAKE
HUMAN INSULIN) are fairly free-standing and can be inserted into almost
any syntactic interpreter, with the result that the desired protein is in
fact synthesized.  This is the heart of much of the bio-tech industry.

However, the parallel nature of genomic expression is such that major
developmental steps, like making eyes, involve so many processes acting in
concert that individual processes cannot be seen as free standing.  This
may seem to contradict the findings you mention above, but explaining the
subtleties involve would require more time and space than is available
here. 


> Dr. Gene Stanley and others at Boston U. and Harvard Medical School have done
statistical analyses of 
> non-coding DNA sequences (published in Physical Review Letters a few months ago)
that suggest that there may be 
> linguistic structures, i.e. words within them.  Are some of these non-coding
sequences the terms of the genetic 
> programming language?

There is an entire body of literature that treats the linguistic
properties of DNA.  If you are really interested, you should read a lot of
it before jumping to quick interpretations.  However, you should also bear
in mind that DNA involves the coding of a "language" on a mass-storage
device, it is not the direct expression of a language.  As an analogy,
consider the differences that programs designed to detect linguistic
features would exhibit of they were run first against, say, War and Peace
as straight ASCII text and then second, against the byte stream obtained
from a hard disk on which War and Peace was stored as, say, a WordPerfect
file with all of the embedded WordPerfect formatting codes and with lots
of file fragmentation thrown in.  I expect that the program would detect
linguistic features when run against the byte stream from the hard disk,
but they would be neither a clean set of features of English nor a clean
set of features from WordPerfect formatting codes, but rather a mixture of
the two, with some confusion thrown in due to the disk fragmentation.

> 
> If this is interesting to you, or if you think its bogus, let me know.

I think it's really interesting, but I also think that we need to be
careful not to oversimplify the analogies.  When I was the program officer
for Database Activities in Biology at NSF, I had many inquiries from
computer scientists who had acquired a Scientific-American-article level
of appreciation of genetics and who assumed that the well-known table
showing the determination of the sequence of amino-acids in proteins by
the sequence of nucleotides in DNA was more or less equivalent to the
table of op codes for some CPU.  This level of understanding led to some
very simplistic proposals. 

A not-that-bad-reversal of the analogy would have someone thinking that an
understanding of the ASCII code (41h = A, 42h = B, etc) is all that would 
be required to understand the workings of, say, an Intel Paragon or a 
Cray-4.

At the same time, I think that bringing computer-science insights to bear 
on the challenge of understanding genome operation has some potentially 
huge payoffs.  For example, it would be really interesting to think about 
the file-allocation-table system for a mass storage device that behaves 
like a redundant linked list, with only associative addressing (i.e., no 
physical addressing by sector-offset, but instead only addressing by 
offsets from recognizable landmarks).  It would also be interesting to 
think about the computational properties that might emerge in a system with 
probabilistic op codes and with as much parallelism as biological 
computers.

Bob

=================================================================

  Robert J. Robbins
  Bioinformation Infrastructure Program
  Office of Health and Environmental Research
  ER-72 GTN
  United States Department of Energy
  19901 Germantown Road
  Germantown, MD  20874-1290

  robbins@er.doe.gov

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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Apr 14 23:00:00 1995
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From: popa0206@po-box.mcgill.ca (G. Dellaire)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Is the genome like a computer program?
Date: 15 Apr 1995 19:35:42 GMT
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In article <Pine.3.07.9504140953.B28952-e100000@dev.gdb.org>,
   rrobbins@GDB.ORG (Robert Robbins) wrote:

>
>Taken all together then, the expression of the human genome involves the
>simultaneous expression and (potential) interaction of something probably
>in excess of 10**18 parallel processes.  

Just curious, but how do you account then for the fact of imprinting and 
silencing of those parallel sets of instructions (i.e. alleles) such that 
you only actually have one "program" running.  This would bring to light
the idea of gene dosage, and what analog in informatics would pertain to 
such a mechanism?

>There is an entire body of literature that treats the linguistic
>properties of DNA.  If you are really interested, you should read a lot of
>it before jumping to quick interpretations.  However, you should also bear
>in mind that DNA involves the coding of a "language" on a mass-storage
>device, it is not the direct expression of a language.

On this point, it is becoming widely accepted that the actual structure of
genome and not just the linear sequence may "encode" sets of instructions
for the "reading and accessing" of this genetic code. Best illustrated
by large changes in genomic structure that affects the accessiblity of 
of various regions of the genome to be  "read" during development at specific
times and silenced afterwards.

Therefore, a second level of language is the overall code itself.  Sort of 
like the letters make up words (commands for the program), and different 
gene are like sentences... thus context is important for understanding the
code.  The context is provided by the supporting paragraphs which could represent
genetic domains with in the genome (context can be spatial, what tissue;
or temporal, what time of development).  And the overall story provides an 
impression and message in itself.
 

G. Dellaire
Exp. Medicine Mcgill
Red Cross Montreal
E-mail popa206@po-box.mcgill.ca
  

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Apr 14 23:00:00 1995
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From: popa0206@po-box.mcgill.ca (G. Dellaire)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: How do we explain Gene Families?
Date: 15 Apr 1995 19:11:00 GMT
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	It is a prevalent theory, and one that comparative mapping is based
on, that in the past during the evolution of vertebrates a series of whole
genome duplications had occured.  The best guess would be 2-3 times, for example
explaining the presence of four HOX gene clusters... i.e. one precursor
gene that was duplicated in one tetraploidization and then two upon the 
second tetraploidization to produce 4 genes.

Now it is very attractive to say that this is a valid model as it explains
very easily the many gene families found on different chromosomes.  In plants
there would be no need to question the mechanism as plants (such as wheat) can
survive great changes in there genome without leading to death of the individual
plant.  Unfortunately animals are not so hardy when it comes to polyploidy and
wide spread mutation of the genome.

Remember, we are dealing with a process that would have to be resolved in one
generation.  Tetraploidy occurs... now you have the problem of two identical
sets of chromosomes, to ensure proper disjunction during mitosis and meiosis
diploidization (or differentiation) of the two sets of homologs must occur.
In addition the tetraploidization must occur in the zygote at an early stage
as fertilization requires two compatible gametes, and it is unlikely that two separate
duplications could occur in both gametes (and identically resolved) prior to
fertilization.  Therefore, how could the individual zygote survive such a
process of chromosome differentiation (which would include inversions,
deletions and translocations) without suffering so many lethal mutations
that it would kill the organism.

Although single events of duplication by gene conversion, primed by DSB's
near repeated elements (alus and line-1 sequences for example) could account
for a relatively "safe" mode of gene duplication, the shear number of duplicated
gene families and the fact that they are usually in 2's and 4's makes the whole
genome duplication theory more attractive, even though improbable.

Perhaps there could be some compromise...


any thoughts and comments are welcome

G. Dellaire
Exp. Med. Mcgill 
Red Cross, Montreal 
e-mail popa0206@po-box.mcgill.ca  

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Apr 14 23:00:00 1995
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From: lumz34@aol.com (Lumz34)
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Subject: HIGH SCHOOL HOMEWORK HELP
Date: 15 Apr 1995 12:03:52 -0400
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I need a list of common organisms with their number of chromosomes to
complete a homework assignment. My teacher has asked for 25 different
organisms. Will some kind person please help direct me to a source of
reference as everything I have seen on the net is too technical. Thanks
lumz34@aol.com

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Apr 14 23:00:00 1995
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From: rrobbins@GDB.ORG (Robert Robbins)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Is the genome like a computer program?
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On 15 Apr 1995, G. Dellaire wrote:

> In article <Pine.3.07.9504140953.B28952-e100000@dev.gdb.org>,
>    rrobbins@GDB.ORG (Robert Robbins) wrote:
> 
> >Taken all together then, the expression of the human genome involves the
> >simultaneous expression and (potential) interaction of something probably
> >in excess of 10**18 parallel processes.  
> 
> Just curious, but how do you account then for the fact of imprinting and 
> silencing of those parallel sets of instructions (i.e. alleles) such that 
> you only actually have one "program" running.  This would bring to light
> the idea of gene dosage, and what analog in informatics would pertain to 
> such a mechanism?

Note that I was referring to "processes", not to programs.  One program
on disk can result in many simultaneous processes being launched on a
parallel machine.  Indeed, I would consider each mRNA to be a process, and
each active enzyme also a process.

With regard to the selective silencing of some copies of some programs,
whether because of imprinting, or dosage compensation, or differentiation,
or some other cause, these could be interpreted simply as examples
of the behavior of the 10**13 virtual machines (i.e., cells) in which the
programs on "disk" are being executed.


> On this point, it is becoming widely accepted that the actual structure of
> genome and not just the linear sequence may "encode" sets of instructions
> for the "reading and accessing" of this genetic code. Best illustrated
> by large changes in genomic structure that affects the accessiblity of 
> of various regions of the genome to be  "read" during development at specific
> times and silenced afterwards.
> 
> Therefore, a second level of language is the overall code itself.  Sort of 
> like the letters make up words (commands for the program), and different 
> gene are like sentences... thus context is important for understanding the
> code.  The context is provided by the supporting paragraphs which could represent
> genetic domains with in the genome (context can be spatial, what tissue;
> or temporal, what time of development).  And the overall story provides an 
> impression and message in itself.

This is a good point and demonstrates the multiple levels of subtlety and
conflation that must be taken into acciunt when trying to do linguisitic
analysis of DNA sequences.  The storage medium, DNA, has local chemical
and mechanical properties that are affected by the information encoded in
those local regions (melting points, etc.).  



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From: diaspro@moana.ibf.unige.it (Alberto Diaspro)
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Subject: acondroplasia
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--r colleaugues,
Dear colleagues,
I am searching again in order to find something related with
the localization og the gene of acondroplasia. I am interested
in a research project that utilizes the optical fluorescence
microscope (confocal or wiede-field<) . My twin-interest is due
to the fact that i love microscopy and i have an acondrolasic sister.
Bye
Alby

-------------------------------------
Alberto DIASPRO
Institute of Biophysics
University of Genova
Via Giotto, 2
16153 Genova - Italy
e-mail: diaspro@moana.ibf.unige.it
(home: Via Lomellini 4-6 16124 Genova)
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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Apr 17 23:00:00 1995
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From: agc@GERGA.SUN.AC.ZA (Mnr. A.G. Christoffels, (Mediese Biochemie))
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Subject: HRC intronic sequence
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Hi, 
I am looking for any information on the intronic sequence of Histidine-
rich Calcium protein other than that appearing in Genomics 9: 1991. I would 
appreciate any references etc.

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Apr 19 23:00:00 1995
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From: 2b16salzbren@vms.csd.mu.edu
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Subject: research.paper
Date: 20 Apr 1995 03:12:17 GMT
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I.The genetic aspect of weight loss
	A)genetic factors of metabolic rate (ie. hereditary)
	ting
		tissues
	D)sex-linkage or any autosomal linkage of these or any other genes relat		ed to weight loss.
	E)case studies of families and the weight of each family member.  (espec		ially families with genetic disorders) 
	F)do certain genetic disorders contribute to susceptibility to weight lo		ss?
	G)genes responsible for enzymatic levels (enzymes which act on fats, sugars, proteins, and other injested foods.
	H)comparison of genetic vs. environmental factors on weight levels and w		eight loss.

I hope someone out there can help me a little.  I have a feeling this paper will turn out to be pretty interesting.

Thanks.

2b16salzbren@vms.csd.mu.edu


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Apr 19 23:00:00 1995
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From: MBFRWGB@MH1.MCC.AC.UK (MBFRWGB)
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Subject: Robotic Instruments
Date: 20 Apr 1995 03:57:59 -0700
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We are interested in purchasing a robotic colony picker and grider.  
We will be gratefull if we receive comments regarding this 
instruments (specially HYBAID'S) so that we can decide if it is a 
sensible aquisition.

Thanks very much


Dr. Roger Gerke-Bonet

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From: rgerke-b@mh1.mcc.ac.uk (Stopford Building Computer User)
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Subject: Robotic colony pickers or griders
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Does anyone can probide me with comments or information 
regarding the Hybaid robotic colony picker or the grider.  We 
are contemplating buying one and we will apreciate very much any 
comments.


Please respond by e-mail to rgerke-b@mh1.mcc.ac.uk


Thank you very much

Roger Gerke-Bonet


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Apr 19 23:00:00 1995
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From: robison@nucleus.harvard.edu (Keith Robison)
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Look in On-Line Mendelian Inheritance in Man (OMIM)

	E-mail		mailserv@gdb.org
	Gopher		gopher.gdb.org
	WWW		http://gdbwww.gdb.org/

It is a standard textbook on human genetic disease.  You might
also try searching biosequence databases for the gene "obese"
Look in

	http://golgi.harvard.edu/sequences.html


Good luck!

Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

robison@mito.harvard.edu 


2b16salzbren@vms.csd.mu.edu wrote:
: I.The genetic aspect of weight loss
: 	A)genetic factors of metabolic rate (ie. hereditary)
: 	ting
: 		tissues
: 	D)sex-linkage or any autosomal linkage of these or any other genes relat		ed to weight loss.
: 	E)case studies of families and the weight of each family member.  (espec		ially families with genetic disorders) 
: 	F)do certain genetic disorders contribute to susceptibility to weight lo		ss?
: 	G)genes responsible for enzymatic levels (enzymes which act on fats, sugars, proteins, and other injested foods.
: 	H)comparison of genetic vs. environmental factors on weight levels and w		eight loss.

: I hope someone out there can help me a little.  I have a feeling this paper will turn out to be pretty interesting.

: Thanks.

: 2b16salzbren@vms.csd.mu.edu


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                           CALL FOR PAPERS
        Workshop on Gene-Finding and Gene Structure Prediction
                        October 13-14, 1995
                     University of Pennsylvania
                          Philadelphia, PA

SCOPE

The Workshop on Gene-Finding and Gene Structure Prediction will be
concerned with the increasingly important activity in computational
biology of discovering protein-encoding genes in otherwise
uncharacterized primary sequence data.  This has traditionally been
done in genomic sequence by discriminating likely coding regions based
on a variety of statistical analyses and by detection of landmark
sequences such as splice junctions.  Recent approaches have involved
combination of such evidence using rule-based and/or connectionist
architectures, and have dealt in a variety of ways with the
combinatorial problem of exon assembly (dynamic programming,
clustering, etc.)  The recent profusion of expressed-sequence data and
related techniques has also raised new issues and opportunities.  In
this workshop we will explore topics such as compositional measures of
exonic tendency (including approaches founded in statistics,
information theory, and signal processing), the effects of genome
heterogeneity, the role of models of biological signals and processes,
dealing with incomplete and error-prone sequence data, algorithmic and
probabilistic techniques, and similarity-based gene prediction.
Problems of interest include detecting coding sequences and assembling
gene models from large-scale genomic sequence, collections of expressed
sequence fragments, and sets of putative exons from a region.
Practical issues of interest include dataset and performance metric
standardization, annotation of genome databases, and software
interoperability.

SPONSORS

The workshop is part of the DIMACS Special Year on Mathematical Support
for Molecular Biology, and is sponsored by DIMACS, SmithKline Beecham
Pharmaceuticals, and the Penn Computational Biology Research Training
Program (funded by the National Science Foundation).  It will be held
at the Penn Tower Hotel and Conference Center, in close proximity to
the facilities of the Computational Biology and Informatics Laboratory
and the Human Genome Center for Chromosome 22.  

PRESENTATIONS

A number of invited talks are planned, and in addition short papers and
posters are solicited from participants.  Anyone wishing to present
should plan to submit a one-page abstract giving sufficient detail to
allow the work to be evaluated for relevance and originality.  The
Program Committee will make decisions as to which submissions are
appropriate, and whether they should be presented in oral or poster
form.  Authors will be asked to submit papers for an informal workshop
proceedings, and certain of these may then be selected by the Program
Committee to appear in revised form in a volume to appear later.  This
will be published by the American Mathematical Society, which issues
Proceedings from DIMACS workshops, based on refereed, camera-ready
papers submitted within a few months after the conference.  The
schedule is as follows;  NOTE THE REVISED DEADLINES:

          June 1, 1995           One-page abstracts due
          July 1, 1995           Notification to authors
          September 1, 1995      Final short papers due
          October 13-14, 1995    Workshop

Abstracts should be mailed to the address given at the bottom of this
announcement.  Limited travel funds will be available for presenters
who would otherwise be unable to attend.  They should indicate this in
a cover letter, stating also whether they are a student, woman, or
minority.

ORGANIZING COMMITTEE

David Searls, University of Pennsylvania, Chair
Jim Fickett, Los Alamos National Laboratory, Co-Chair
Gary Stormo, University of Colorado, Boulder, Co-Chair
Mick Noordewier, Rutgers University, Co-Chair

PROGRAM COMMITTEE

Howard Bilofsky, SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
Jean-Michel Claverie, CNRS-E.P.91 Information Genetique et Structurale
Misha Gelfand, Institute of Protein Research, Russian Academy of Sciences
Roderic Guigo, Institut Municipal d'Investigacio Medica, Barcelona
David Haussler, University of California at Santa Cruz
Stephen Mount, University of Maryland
Pavel Pevzner, Penn State University
Bruce Roe, University of Oklahoma
Victor Solovyev, Baylor College of Medicine
Ed Uberbacher, Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Owen White, Institute for Genome Research

FURTHER INFORMATION

To express interest in the Workshop and to receive further mailings
directly, send e-mail to dsearls@cbil.humgen.upenn.edu, or contact

          David Searls
          Department of Genetics, CRB475
          University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine
          422 Curie Boulevard
          Philadelphia, PA 19104-6145
          Voice: (215)573-3107
          FAX: (215)573-3111

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Apr 20 23:00:00 1995
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From: mikeh@bgnet.bgsu.edu (Michael A. Halbisen)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: looking for grad school in Biotech
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:11:11 -0500
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Hi,
   I'm currently a junior chemistry major who is looking to apply to grad
school this fall.  However, I've been encountering some difficulty finding
information on which schools have good Biotechnology programs. If anyone
has some suggestions on a good grad school (for Ph.D) for Biotechnology,
please let me know.  I am mostly interested in projects that involve using
molecular biology to genetically engeneer microbes to produce ( or do )
new things, such as making oil eating bacteria (as opposed to
pharmacology).  Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.

                       
                                  Michael A. Halbisen
                                  mikeh@bgnet.bgsu.edu

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Apr 24 23:00:00 1995
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From: robison@golgi.harvard.edu (Keith Robison)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Fragile X Syndrome
Date: 25 Apr 1995 12:17:32 GMT
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ARF123 (arf123@aol.com) wrote:
: I am seeking additional information on Fragile X Syndrome. Prefer recent
: as possible. Post here or e-mail at ARF123@AOL.com


Look in On-Line Mendelian Inheritance in Man (OMIM)

	E-mail		mailserv@gdb.org
	Gopher		gopher.gdb.org
	WWW		http://gdbwww.gdb.org/

It is a standard textbook on human genetic disease.

The National Organization for Rare Disorders (NORD)
has patient-oriented information on various diseases.

You can get to both NORD and OMIM via

	http://golgi.harvard.edu/htbin/biopages?nord|omim


Good luck!

Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

robison@mito.harvard.edu 

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Subject: Fragile X Syndrome
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I am seeking additional information on Fragile X Syndrome. Prefer recent
as possible. Post here or e-mail at ARF123@AOL.com

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Apr 24 23:00:00 1995
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From: robison@lipid.harvard.edu (Keith Robison)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Genome Map
Date: 25 Apr 1995 02:41:01 GMT
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Justin2401 (justin2401@aol.com) wrote:
: Any one know where (internet address, etc...) I could get a fairly up to
: date map of the human genome?

You might start with URL's contained at the following two URLs:

http://www-bprc.mps.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/hpp?genetics.html
http://golgi.harvard.edu/htbin/biopages?genome|chromosome|map

will list a lot of genome-related (not all human!) sites, many of
which have maps.  

One "problem" with human genome maps is that there are many different
types of maps, based on different techniques.  For example, 
a physical map shows the location of DNA fragments or DNA landmarks,
whereas a recombinational map shows the observed degree of 
genetic linkage between markers (which also differs somewhat
by which parent the chromosome is inherited from).  And, of course,
these are both broad categories which encompass different techniques.
As you might guess, one challenge of genomics is figuring out ways
to either experimentally or computationally merge maps developed with
different techniques or in different experiments.  There are a number
of sites at the above URL's which present integrated maps or 
give you access to experimental map integrators.

Enjoy!!!

Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

robison@mito.harvard.edu 




From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Apr 24 23:00:00 1995
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From: justin2401@aol.com (Justin2401)
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Subject: Genome Map
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Any one know where (internet address, etc...) I could get a fairly up to
date map of the human genome?

Any help welcome....
Justin Fulmer
justin2401@aol.com

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Tue Apr 25 23:00:00 1995
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From: shane@reservoir.win-uk.net (Shane McKee)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 15:57:48 GMT
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Hi. My query relates to the loss of chromosomes from the first few
divisions of the zygote. In Down syndrome, there are three basic
types (with some modifications). Firstly, you have the standard
trisomy 21 (~95% of cases). Second, you have translocations, in
which an extra 21 is stuck to another chromosome (~3%). Third,
there are mosaics, in which some body cells are normal, and some
have trisomy 21.

Now, concerning mosaics, there are two basic ways I can figure of
them coming into being. The first way is that they start out as a
normal zygote, and in one of the early rounds of mitosis, one of
the cell lines gains a Chr21. The second way is to start with
three 21s, and lose one in one of the cell lines.

Work with Prader-Willi & Angelman, among other syndromes, suggests
that in some cases 'extra' chromosomes may be lost during mitosis,
leading to uniparental disomy for some chromosomes, in which both
copies of a chromosome in a zygote come from the same parent.

My question is, has any work been done on the factors which cause
the loss of extra chromosomes during mitosis? I figure that it may
be possible to mitigate the effects of Down Syndrome if
'treatment' to lose an excess 21 were initiated early in pregnancy.

Has anyone any thoughts on the matter?
Thanks,

Shane


Shane McKee (JHO, RVH, Belfast)  | /      Art becomes science when
Shane@reservoir.win-uk.net     --O--    you start trying to figure
AGACTGCGCTTGCTTTACACATTTCTTCTC / |  out what the heck you're doing

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Apr 27 23:00:00 1995
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Can sombody please tell me where I can find info
on the 18th chromosome on the internet.  Specifically disorders.

  Please E-mail at ray@ix.netcom.com.

   Thanks Ray.

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sat Apr 29 23:00:00 1995
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I am probably not in the best News Group and apologize for the
interruption, but I am looking for a forum where information on
Ericsson's and other human gender selection methods is circulated
and discussed.

Thanks

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Subject: Trisomy 13 or Padua (Patua) Syndrome
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I am seeking info on this very rare genetic anomoly. If anyone has any
information, or knows where I could find info I would greatly
appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

Chris Donahue
chrisdon@ix.netcom.com

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Christopher Donahue (chrisdon@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

: I am seeking info on this very rare genetic anomoly. If anyone has any
: information, or knows where I could find info I would greatly
: appreciate it. Thanks in advance.



Look in On-Line Mendelian Inheritance in Man (OMIM)

	E-mail		mailserv@gdb.org
	Gopher		gopher.gdb.org
	WWW		http://gdbwww.gdb.org/

It is a standard textbook on human genetic disease.

The National Organization for Rare Disorders (NORD)
has patient-oriented information on various diseases.

You can get to both NORD and OMIM via

	http://golgi.harvard.edu/htbin/biopages?nord|omim


Good luck!

Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

robison@mito.harvard.edu 

