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From: Tom Roger Kise <tomk@ifi.uio.no>
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Subject: Crossover-statistics
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For simulation of evolution I need to know how often crossover occures
for both human and other species.

1. how often does deletion, translocation and duplication of genes
during crossover occur?

2. is crossover of the type stated in question 1 restricted to sexual
mating?

-- 
Tom Kise (tomk@ifi.uio.no)
Casparisgt. 11 (http://www.ifi.uio.no/~tomk)
0174 OSLO (22 11 23 65)

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Dec 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: Rifat Hamoudi <rifat@icr.ac.uk>
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Subject: LINKAGE software running on 286
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> Hi,
> 		I would appreciate if anyone know of a site that has
> LINKAGE software than run on 286 PC. I loaded LINKAGE 5.2 on 286
> computer but whenever I load mlink or the other modules I get 
> error message saying that the hardward is not recognised and that
> I would have to load DPMIINST. Does anyone know why that is?
> 
> Has anyone got a copy of mlink, unknown and makeped running 
> fine on 286? If so could I get a copy of them?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Rifat.
> 
> rifat@icr.ac.uk
> 
> 




From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Dec 02 22:00:00 1996
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Subject: [Q] fidning a mutation site on a BAC clone
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Dear Netters:

I am trying to clone a gene for gi gene in Arabidopsis.  We have
isolated a BAC clone (150kb) that are very likely to encompass the
mutation.
We would like to find the mutation site in the BAC clone.  The BAC clone
is form wild type and we have three independent alleles of mutants.

I would appreciate if someone give an inforamtion on how to find a
mutation site on a BAC clone in our situation?

Hong Gil

Hong Gil Nam
Department of Life Science
Pohang University of Science and Technology
Hyoja Dong, Pohang
Kyungbuk, 79-784
South Korea
e-mail:hgn@bric.postech.ac.kr

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From: pd@napc8.path.cam.ac.uk (Phil Davey)
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Subject: Re: Question on X chromosome
Date: 3 Dec 1996 18:20:43 GMT
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In article <581l57$pj9@netty.york.ac.uk>,
	cs132@york.ac.uk (Chris) writes:
>This is a question that no one at York university seems able to
>answer.
>The question is as follows:-
>
>In females one X chromosome stays active and codes for proteins where
>as the other chromosome is (supposedly) inactive and forms the dense
>bar body which can be visibly seen under an optical microscope.
>
>Are the inactive X,s truelly inactive?

AFAIK, only some sections of the X chromosome are inactivated. This means
that some genes on the X escape inactivation. I think it's also possible
for mutations to occur that affect the inactivation of particular genes.

>Or something entirely different.

Quite possibly! :-)

---
Phil Davey                        [E-mail pd@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk]
Just because you're smart, doesn't mean you can't act stupid....


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Dec 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: chi@healthtech.com (Bioinformatics & Genome Research)
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Subject: 6 Int'l Bioinformatics and Genome Research
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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Dec 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: cs132@york.ac.uk (Chris)
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Subject: Question on X chromosome
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 00:40:06 GMT
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This is a question that no one at York university seems able to
answer.
The question is as follows:-

In females one X chromosome stays active and codes for proteins where
as the other chromosome is (supposedly) inactive and forms the dense
bar body which can be visibly seen under an optical microscope.

When females have 3 or more X chromoses 2 or more bar bodies
representing the inactive X's are visible.

Why do these women (especially in the case of 4 X,s) suffer from
physical and mental defects?

Are the inactive X,s truelly inactive?

Is it the fact that each cell of the body will express 1 of 3 or more
X  phenotypes instead of 1 of 2 (as it is random which X stays active
and which X's are domant).

Could it be the physical space the extra X's take up?

Or something entirely different.
				Chris Swainson


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Tue Dec 03 22:00:00 1996
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Subject: Chris's question
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Chris:  Not all of the X chromosome is inactivated.  Those unacctivated 
genes be the cause of abnormalities due to their unbalancing effect.

Diane Lavett

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From: alien.on.earth@star-trek.com (Suzy)
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Subject: FragX E/Point Mutation?
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Hi.  What are the specific tests for fragile x E and point mutation of
the X gene?  My son had the fragX  southern blot(apprently the regular
FragX A test).  Since then I've been told even though result were
normal because he behaviourally and physically meets the majority of
criteria that he probably has frag X but FragX E or a point mutation.

Suzy (03/67) HFA/AS.  Just another alien on earth with my own little colony.  Stephen my sunshine (01/92) ADHD/PDD, and Alyssa my aly cat (03/90) ODD.  
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From: moro@cli.di.unipi.it (Lorenzo Moro)
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I'm searching help to find a treatment for Francesco, age 29,
who is affected by a progressive paralyzation of legs and arms, before
upper limbs and now even lower limbs. In evolution since 1984, it may
be a disease of the second neuron of movement or an alteration of
encephalon in the frontal right side. He risks, without appropriate
treatment, an extension of the disease to vital muscles. Till today
nobody stabilized the real origin of the disease. The already made
clinic examinations are in the web address

http://www.cli.ci.unipi.it/~moro/ciccio/ciccio.html

if there is somebody, who is able to give him help, may send a mail to

moro@cli.di.unipi.it
or to
muscato@dipmat.unict.it

thanks,                 Lorenzo

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From: apland@mala.bc.ca (Ron Apland)
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Subject: Re: Question on X chromosome
Date: 4 Dec 96 17:37:38 -0700
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>>This is a question that no one at York university seems able to
>>answer.
>>The question is as follows:-
>>
>>In females one X chromosome stays active and codes for proteins where
>>as the other chromosome is (supposedly) inactive and forms the dense
>>bar body which can be visibly seen under an optical microscope.
>>
>>Are the inactive X,s truelly inactive?
> 
> AFAIK, only some sections of the X chromosome are inactivated. This means
> that some genes on the X escape inactivation. I think it's also possible
> for mutations to occur that affect the inactivation of particular genes.
> 
>>Or something entirely different.

How would you account for sex-linked traits unless regions of both X
chromosomes were active?

Ron

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From: apland@mala.bc.ca (Ron Apland)
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>>> AFAIK, only some sections of the X chromosome are inactivated. This means
>>> that some genes on the X escape inactivation. I think it's also possible
>>> for mutations to occur that affect the inactivation of particular genes.
>>
>>How would you account for sex-linked traits unless regions of both X
>>chromosomes were active?
>
> Why would you _need_ a gene to be active on _both_ chromosomes??
> Wouldn't one or the other be enough?
> 

Yes, of course.  What I was trying to account for was the different
frequencies.  I guess I'm to assume that the difference in frequencies
of traits such as R-G colour blindness is not as large as I thought.

Ron

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Skills in routine computer system maintenance and
biological/microbiological lab technique (including sterile technique
and microscopy). Candidates should possess a degree in one of these
areas (computer science or biology) and two years' experience in the
other area.

Notes:  
This position provides standard university benefits.  More information
about benefits can be obtained by phoning TAMU Benefits Office at
(409) 845-4105.  Texas A&M is located in College Station, TX and is an
Equal Opportunity Employer. 

To apply:
Please send resume, reference list and cover letter to: Dr. Timothy C.
Hall, Director and Distinguished Professor, Institute of Developmental
and Molecular Biology, Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
77843-3155.  Inquiries may be made via e-mail (tim@bio.tamu.edu). 

Please reference job number 970323 in all correspondence.

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Dec 04 22:00:00 1996
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From: pd@napc8.path.cam.ac.uk (Phil Davey)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Question on X chromosome
Date: 5 Dec 1996 16:07:30 GMT
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In article <1996Dec4.173738@malad1.mala.bc.ca>,
	apland@mala.bc.ca (Ron Apland) writes:
>> AFAIK, only some sections of the X chromosome are inactivated. This means
>> that some genes on the X escape inactivation. I think it's also possible
>> for mutations to occur that affect the inactivation of particular genes.
>
>How would you account for sex-linked traits unless regions of both X
>chromosomes were active?
>
>Ron

Why would you _need_ a gene to be active on _both_ chromosomes??
Wouldn't one or the other be enough?

---
Phil Davey                        [E-mail pd@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk]
Just because you're smart, doesn't mean you can't act stupid....


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 05 22:00:00 1996
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POSITION AVAILABLE:
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seeks a full time Technician II (Salary $9.18/hr, $1,597.33/mo,
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provide system administration and hardware and software
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image capture and video recording from microscopes and copy stands;
(d) to learn and subsequently provide technical support for in situ
hybridization analysis of biological materials.

Educational qualifications/training required: 
Skills in routine computer system maintenance and
biological/microbiological lab technique (including sterile technique
and microscopy). Candidates should possess a degree in one of these
areas (computer science or biology) and two years' experience in the
other area.

Notes:  
This position provides standard university benefits.  More information
about benefits can be obtained by phoning TAMU Benefits Office at
(409) 845-4105.  Texas A&M is located in College Station, TX and is an
Equal Opportunity Employer. 

To apply:
Please send resume, reference list and cover letter to: Dr. Timothy C.
Hall, Director and Distinguished Professor, Institute of Developmental
and Molecular Biology, Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
77843-3155.  Inquiries may be made via e-mail (tim@bio.tamu.edu). 

Please reference job number 970323 in all correspondence.


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POSITION AVAILABLE:
Texas A&M University's Institute of Developmental & Molecular Biology
seeks a full time Technician II (Salary $9.18/hr, $1,597.33/mo,
$19,168/yr) to start ASAP.  The position is available through August
31, 1997 and is renewable subject to performance and budget
availability. 

Major/essential duties of job: 
(a) enhance and maintain Internet communications and Web pages for the
Gene Technologies and Biological Imaging Labs of the IDMB; (b) to
provide system administration and hardware and software
trouble-shooting for a small network of Macintosh OS and Windows 95/NT
OS computers; (c) to provide end-user assistance in computer-based
image capture and video recording from microscopes and copy stands;
(d) to learn and subsequently provide technical support for in situ
hybridization analysis of biological materials.

Educational qualifications/training required: 
Skills in routine computer system maintenance and
biological/microbiological lab technique (including sterile technique
and microscopy). Candidates should possess a degree in one of these
areas (computer science or biology) and two years' experience in the
other area.

Notes:  
This position provides standard university benefits.  More information
about benefits can be obtained by phoning TAMU Benefits Office at
(409) 845-4105.  Texas A&M is located in College Station, TX and is an
Equal Opportunity Employer. 

To apply:
Please send resumé, reference list and cover letter to: Dr. Timothy C.
Hall, Director and Distinguished Professor, Institute of Developmental
and Molecular Biology, Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
77843-3155.  Inquiries may be made via e-mail (tim@bio.tamu.edu). 

Please reference job number 970323 in all correspondence.


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Dec 06 22:00:00 1996
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From: Douglas Easton <dpeaston@wzrd.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Benetics Position
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 11:26:07 -0500
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GENETICIST
                                    
                    STATE UNIVERSITY COLLEGE AT BUFFALO


Applications are invited for a tenure-track ASSISTANT PROFESSOR
to begin September 1997.  We are seeking a colleague who is
enthusiastic about teaching undergraduates.  Teaching
responsibilities will include Genetics, Introductory Biology for
non-majors, and either Botany or Cell Biology.  The successful
candidate will be expected to develop an active research program
involving undergraduate and master's students.  Applicants must
have a Ph.D., and postdoctoral teaching and research experience
is preferred but not required.


The State University College at Buffalo (Buffalo State College)
is the largest arts and science college in the SUNY system with
an enrollment of 13,000 students (including 2000 in graduate
programs).  The campus is located in a residential district in
the city of Buffalo.  The Department of Biology enrolls about 250
undergraduate and about 30 graduate students in MA and MSEd
programs.  Of our 16 faculty, one-half have received their
doctorates within the last 13 years.  We maintain greenhouse
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provides laboratories and research vessels to faculty and
students.


Applicants should send a curriculum vitae with a thoughtful
statement of teaching philosophy, research goals and three
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Dr. Randal Snyder, Chair of Search Committee, Department of
Biology, Buffalo State College, 1300 Elmwood Avenue, Buffalo, NY
14222.  Email: SNYDERRJ@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU  Telephone: 716-
878-4314.   We especially encourage applications from women and
minorities.

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Dec 06 22:00:00 1996
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From: dadler@jane.u.washington.edu (David Adler)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Chris's question
Date: 7 Dec 1996 21:12:32 GMT
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On 12/03/96, Chris wrote:
...
>Why do these women (especially in the case of 4 X,s) suffer from
>physical and mental defects?
>
>Are the inactive X,s truelly inactive?
...
>Is it the fact that each cell of the body will express 1 of 3 or more
>X  phenotypes instead of 1 of 2 (as it is random which X stays active
>and which X's are domant).

On 12/03/96, Diane Lavett wrote:
>Chris:  Not all of the X chromosome is inactivated.  Those
>genes be the cause of abnormalities due to their unbalancing
> effect.
>Diane Lavett

Hi Chris and all,
There are indeed genes that have been shown to "escape" X inactivation in 
normal females. Soon after Mary Lyon proposed the single-active X 
hypothesis in 1961 some (Ferguson-Smith, 1965) predicted that there 
must be genes on the human X that escape inactivation. The double dose 
of at least some genes is necessary for normal female development 
since 45,X individuals have Turner syndrome - short stature, premature 
ovarian failure, webbed neck, lymphodema, etc. For clinical 
description of Turner syndrome see:

 http://www.kumc.edu/instruction/medicine/pathology/ed/ch_6/sl_28.html

 It had also been predicted that the situation is different in mice since 
XO (39,X) female mice are essentially normal. My quick guess of the 
current count is that there are about 10 genes that escape in human 
and only two in mouse. We now know that the genes on the human X that 
escape inactivation are interspersed among genes that are subject to 
inactivation.  A good review of this data and mouse/human comparisons 
is:
	Disteche, C.M., Escape from X inactivation in human and mouse. 	
Trends in Genetics  1995 Jan.  11(1).  P 17-22.

In all situations only a single active X remains active in a cell - so for 
the case of (47,XXX) X-triploidy two X's are inactivated - and in 
general the choice of which X remains active is random. The abnormal 
phenotype of XXX or XXXX or XXXY, individuals is likely the result of 
the extra dosage of at least some of the genes that escape 
inactivation - genes that are subject to inactivation will be of 
normal dosage in such individuals. Another developmental complication 
is that prior to X-inactivation (occurs around day 3-5 after 
fertilization) the double dose of expression from both X chromosomes 
may be important for normal early development of female embryos.

Genes that escape X inactivation will in fact have an unusual sex-linked 
inheritance pattern. This will depend on the particular gene - some 
human X-linked genes have functionally equivalent copies on the Y 
chromosome - ZFX and ZFY are examples, and this will also may alter 
the inheritance. It is the genes that are subject to X inactivation 
that will show the expected, typical sex-linked inheritance - such as 
Duchenne muscular dystrophy or hemophilia.

[BTW: Since the retinal receptor genes on the X chromosome *are* 
subject to inactivation color-blindness act as typical sex-linked 
genes: males are more commonly effected and heterozygous females are 
uneffected or minimally effected carriers. Unexpected frequencies of 
color-blindness alleles in the population likely has nothing to do 
with the phenomenom of escape from X-chromosome inactivation.]

Hope this useful and understandable,
David


-- 
David A. Adler, Ph.D.
Scientist, Zymogenetics Inc.
and 
Pathology, University of Washington
"Science is nothing but trained and organized common sense"
T.H.Huxley

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Dec 08 22:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!segi.ulg.ac.be!s771061
From: s771061@segi.ulg.ac.be ("Lecocq")
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: A.L.F Upgrade (optical/chemical/software)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 08:41:51 -0800
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To A.L.F. User's (but not only...)
We are currently working on both chemistry and optical (detection) systems
of A.L.F. (Pharmacia Biotech) apparatus in order to improve their
sequencing capacities (multidiode detection system with full gel imaging;
increase of sample to 18; increase of length readability up to 1000 bases
as standard,...)We will be very happy if ALF (not ALF Express for rigth
now) users could tell us if they would be interested ? (think : would you
upgrade your system (without any change to the original beam source : argon
laser) and for what price ?). Also upgrade would include a new software
tools based on win95 operating system.

Also did anybody know about "in house" synthesis of dye labelled
dideoxynucleotides ?

Pierre Lecocq
DNA Seq. Unit / Network Resp
Lab. Prof. J.A Martial Univ. of Liège Belgium
bât. B6 CHIMIE Allée du 6 août
Phone 32 4 3663310 Fax 32 4 3662968

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Dec 11 22:00:00 1996
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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 12 22:00:00 1996
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From: goble@kigateway.eastend.com.au (David Goble)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Question on X chromosome
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:01:39 GMT
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>
>How would you account for sex-linked traits unless regions of both X
>chromosomes were active?
>
>Ron
>
Hi Ron,

	Any close search of the genetic literature will establish there is a
in-active transmission from the X gene in women, described as
mutations of the ofspring. To illustrate further there is a number of
genetic linked deformatites in children that are directly from
in-active X chromesomes from both male and females.

	However scientific investigation has only indicated hypothesis at
present.
Thanks from :
                        Dr Brian Goble PhD
                  goble@kigateway.eastend.com.au
                 http://www.eastend.com.au/~goble
           American Beach Kangaroo Island South Australia


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Dec 13 22:00:00 1996
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From: moelee@ix.netcom.com(David Lee)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Karlene's Question
Date: 14 Dec 1996 05:53:23 GMT
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I am seeking information as to the possible cause/condition of my
3-year old niece.  She has vaginal atresia, a protruding urethra and
has experienced constipation since infancy.  It has been suggested that
a chromosome study should be done.  Does anyone have any information
that might be helpful?

Karlene

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sat Dec 14 22:00:00 1996
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From: Chris Fields <cfields@gab.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.arabidopsis,bionet.genome.chromosomes,bionet.glycosci,bionet.immunology,bionet.info-theory
Subject: Re: About Money
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> This is the $1.00 concept explained without the hype and silly numbers!
> Read the following carefully and you could be joining the many thousands
> of Internet users who are currently earning quite large sums of money
> with a few hours work using their computers via the Internet!
> ******************************************************************************

<HUGE SNIP>

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Graduate Student, Dept. of Biological Sciences
The University of North Texas
Denton, TX 

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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Dec 16 22:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!cgi.nsk.su!kuznecov
From: kuznecov@cgi.nsk.su (Kuznecov S.B.)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Where I can get the mapping information?
Date: 16 Dec 1996 22:33:28 -0800
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If somebody knows, please send me the Web addresses of sites where 
I can get the most updated information about the number of  genes 
and genetic markers mapped in the mammalian spicies (the best variant: 
the names of animals and the number of markers mapped in each of them 
by 1996). My e-mail address: kuznecov@cgi.nsk.su 
  
Yours sincerely, 
Denis M. Larkin
Institute of Cytology and Genetics
Novosibirsk 630090
Russia

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Dec 16 22:00:00 1996
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From: clevow@haverford.edu (Carrie Levow)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: genetics and homosexuality
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:23:24 GMT
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Hey all-

I am writing a paper for a class-  Human Genetics, Ethics, and Public
Policy.  I am writing about homosxuality and genetics.  Specifically,
what would happen if a gene or genes, or some other biological reason
were found as a cause of homosexuality.  I am looking for opinions on
the subject- if you have any, email me or post!

A little bio- it is likely that homosexuality is about 50% nature and
50% nurture.  So I am not saying that a gene that absolutley 100%
causes homosexuality is going to be found.  But this issue can be
addressed too.

If you respond, please give me some background info about yourself, if
you are comfortable doing so.  -Age, sexual orientation, gender, name.
And please tell me if you don't wan't me to quote you in my paper-
it's not going to be published or anything.  It's just a little
research paper for school.

Thanks a lot!

-Carrie 
clevow@haverford.edu

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Tue Dec 17 22:00:00 1996
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From: "David R. Marlborough" <david75@sprynet.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: genetics and homosexuality
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:53:48 -0500
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Carrie Levow wrote:
> 
> 
> A little bio- it is likely that homosexuality is about 50% nature and
> 50% nurture.  So I am not saying that a gene that absolutley 100%
> causes homosexuality is going to be found.  But this issue can be
> addressed too.
> 
>

	I remember hearing about the actual anatomical differences that 
exist in homosexuals compared to heterosexuals (in both sexes).  
Apparently, in both females and males of heterosexuals their exists 
differences in the size of the pituitary and hypothalmus "complex" if 
you will (because they are closely associated anatomically in the brain 
region.  Well it was found that men had a larger complex (larger 
hypothalmus and pituitary) than women, leading into another theory 
involving rate of male hormone production and size of the gland.  What 
is astonishing to me is what was found when similar observations were 
made in homosexual persons of both sexes.
	It seems that the normal size difference in heterosexuals was 
reversed.  In the case of the gay male, it was found that the size of 
the complex was smaller than that for a heterosexual male and, in some 
extreme cases, was very close to the size of the female complex.  This 
was also seen for a homosexual female where larger complexes were found 
when compared to heterosexual females.  Also, in some extreme cases, it 
was found that the size of the complex in lesbian women was nearly 
equivalent to that in heterosexual males.
	Now taking all of these facts in, one could lead to very 
remarkable conclusions.  First, in development all organs and tissues of 
our bodies develope due to controlled gene expression and cell to cell 
inhibition.  Therefore, in a particular situation where development of a 
particular gland should be inhibited due to gender, and indeed it is 
allowed to develope fully (uninhibited), then it can be assumed that the 
cause of this is due in part to a malfunction in the particular gene.  
However, it can also be assumed that in addition to the set of genes 
that are present to control the "complex" development in both sexes 
there exists a gene inherited that can act to either render the 
recipient "blind" (damaging the receptor) to proper signalling 
concerning development of can simply terminate the signal (prevent the 
ligand product from being produced) all together!
	So in order to respond to your statement of "50% nature/50% 
nurture," in light of these findings, I find that that argument doesn't 
seem to tread water very well.

				"Dave"
				Biology Major
				American History Minor
				Attending college in New England
				Male Heterosexual
				21 Years of age.

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Dec 20 22:00:00 1996
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From: John Carroll <pp001356@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Crossing Over Question
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:28:23 -0800
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After checking assorted books on biology and biochemistry about
how crossing over takes place during meiosis, I find myself still
confused on a couple of points that an expert could undoubtedly 
clear up without breaking a sweat.  Here are the points of confusion:

	1. In the diagrams of crossing over that I've seen, one segment
	   of DNA on the paternal chromosome is traded for its 
	   counterpart on the maternal chromosome.  I assume that
	   this actually takes place at many points along the 	   
	   chromosomes, rather than just the one shown in diagrams,
	   but I haven't seen any text to confirm that suspicion or 
	   any diagrams showing multiple crossovers.  Does crossing
	   over actually occur at many separate places on the 
	   chromosome?  If so, roughly how many segments are likely,
	   on average,to be exchanged per chromosome?  And roughly how
           big are such segments, on average? 

	2. When DNA molecules are cut during the crossing over process,
	   are they cut only on linker strands (my guess) or only on
	   DNA attached to nucleosomes, or on both kinds of locations?

The world's fate doesn't hang on answers to these questions, as you
may have guessed, but they're driving me nuts.  All responses
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


John Carroll
pp001356@mindspring.com


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Dec 20 22:00:00 1996
From: goble@kigateway.eastend.com.au (David Goble)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: RE: Karlene's Question
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:47:01 GMT
Organization: Ecology Research Centre
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>I am seeking information as to the possible cause/condition of my
>3-year old niece.  She has vaginal atresia, a protruding urethra and
>has experienced constipation since infancy.  It has been suggested that
>a chromosome study should be done.  Does anyone have any information
>that might be helpful?
>
Hi Karlene;

	A simple gene blot screening test will indicate any gene faults in the
set of any chromosomes.

	Any major laboratory or general major hospital can arrange or carry
out this test. Such a test in Austrlia will take a number of weeks to
get the full results, and our cost is between $A100 to $A150 for this
test.

	Regards,

		
Thanks from :
                        Dr Brian Goble PhD
                  goble@kigateway.eastend.com.au
                 http://www.eastend.com.au/~goble
           American Beach Kangaroo Island South Australia


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sat Dec 21 22:00:00 1996
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From: Raquel Fialho <nop43529@mail.telepac.pt>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Crossing Over Question
Date: 22 Dec 1996 21:42:16 GMT
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John Carroll <pp001356@mindspring.com> escreveu:
> After checking assorted books on biology and biochemistry about
> how crossing over takes place during meiosis, I find myself still
> confused on a couple of points that an expert could undoubtedly 
> clear up without breaking a sweat.  Here are the points of confusion:
> 
> 	1. In the diagrams of crossing over that I've seen, one segment
> 	   of DNA on the paternal chromosome is traded for its 
> 	   counterpart on the maternal chromosome.  I assume that
> 	   this actually takes place at many points along the 	   
> 	   chromosomes, rather than just the one shown in diagrams,
> 	   but I haven't seen any text to confirm that suspicion or 
> 	   any diagrams showing multiple crossovers.  Does crossing
> 	   over actually occur at many separate places on the 
> 	   chromosome?  If so, roughly how many segments are likely,
> 	   on average,to be exchanged per chromosome?  And roughly how
>            big are such segments, on average? 
> 
> 	2. When DNA molecules are cut during the crossing over process,
> 	   are they cut only on linker strands (my guess) or only on
> 	   DNA attached to nucleosomes, or on both kinds of locations?
> 
> The world's fate doesn't hang on answers to these questions, as you
> may have guessed, but they're driving me nuts.  All responses
> appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> John Carroll
> pp001356@mindspring.com
> 


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Dec 22 22:00:00 1996
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From: mthompson@asu.edu (MThompson)
Newsgroups: bionet.cellbiol,bionet.general,bionet.microbiology,bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: DNA extinction coefficient
Date: 22 Dec 1996 02:05:16 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University
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What is the extinction coefficient for:
dGdC
dAdT   and polyG-poly C (annealed)
I understand the ext coefficient for GC is roughly 6600. Is this per
10-mer, per base pair or per base? 
Thanks.

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Tue Dec 24 22:00:00 1996
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From: "Dr. Ung-Jin Kim" <ung@caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Caltech Genome Lab hires staffs
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:38:58 -0800
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Job 1: We are looking for a few lab assistants
 
 
Caltech Genome Research Laboratory is looking for qualified
full time technicians with experiences in laboratory works 
involving recombinant DNA procedures. Works will require 
skills in colony hybridization, PCR screening of genomic 
libraries, DNA preparation, restriction fingerprint analysis, 
and more.
 
Positions are open immediately. A college degree in Biological 
sciences or other sciences required. Interested parties should 
send CV and salary requirement to Dr. Ung-Jin Kim
Electronic submissions are welcome.
 
Job 2: We are looking for a bioinformatician
 
Caltech Genome Research Laboratory is looking for a full time
informatician to manage and analyze laboratory data, and help 
operate robotic workstations. Knowledge and experieince in 
handling biological information, especially in the analysis 
and management of physcal mapping and DNA sequence data is 
essential. Familiarity with ACeDB database is critical.
We also expect the person to be familiar with Unix platforms
as well as PC/MacIntosh. 
Interested parties should send CV and salary history to Dr. Kim.
Electronic submissions are welcome.
 
Caltech provides employees with excellent work environment and 
benefit packages.
 
We will notify the applicants if an interview is necessary soon 
after reviewing their applications.
  
Please see our WEB page http://www.tree.caltech.edu for information
on our projects.
 


***************************************************************
*						              *
*  Ung-Jin Kim, Ph.D.					      *
*  Director, Genome Research Laboratory			      *
*  Division of Biology, 147-75,  Caltech, Pasadena, CA 91125  *
*  (818)395-4901 (office) (818)395-4154 (laboratory)          * 
*  (818)796-7066 (fax)    (818)548-7555 (home)                *
*  ung@caltech.edu         http://date.tree.caltech.edu       *
*							      * 	        
***************************************************************

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 26 22:00:00 1996
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From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 27 Dec 1996 02:01:55 -0800
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
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	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
------------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 26 22:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 27 Dec 1996 02:01:55 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
------------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
--------------------------------------------------------------------
computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
-------------------------------------------------

To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 26 22:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 27 Dec 1996 02:01:55 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology
Lines: 239
Sender: daemon@net.bio.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <199612271000.CAA26454@net.bio.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net

(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
------------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
--------------------------------------------------------------------
computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
-------------------------------------------------

To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 26 22:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 27 Dec 1996 02:01:55 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology
Lines: 239
Sender: daemon@net.bio.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <199612271000.CAA26454@net.bio.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net

(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
------------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
--------------------------------------------------------------------
computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
-------------------------------------------------

To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 26 22:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 27 Dec 1996 02:01:55 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology
Lines: 239
Sender: daemon@net.bio.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <199612271000.CAA26454@net.bio.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net

(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
------------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
------------------------------------------------------------------
node at computer net.bio.net:
----------------------------

A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
--------------------------------------------------------------------
computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
-------------------------------------------------

To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 26 22:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!rutgers!netnews.upenn.edu!news.misty.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.dra.com!news.good.net!news.good.net!news.goodnet.com!phx-ts2-13.goodnet.com!user
From: mthompson@asu.edu (MThompson)
Newsgroups: bionet.cellbiol,bionet.general,bionet.microbiology,bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: DNA extinction coefficient
Date: 22 Dec 1996 02:05:16 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University
Lines: 6
Message-ID: <mthompson-2112961917570001@phx-ts2-13.goodnet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: phx-ts2-13.goodnet.com
Xref: biosci bionet.cellbiol:6317 bionet.general:24819 bionet.microbiology:8318 bionet.genome.chromosomes:1480

What is the extinction coefficient for:
dGdC
dAdT   and polyG-poly C (annealed)
I understand the ext coefficient for GC is roughly 6600. Is this per
10-mer, per base pair or per base? 
Thanks.

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 26 22:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!rutgers!netnews.upenn.edu!news.misty.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-penn.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!duke.telepac.pt!news.telepac.pt!usenet
From: Raquel Fialho <nop43529@mail.telepac.pt>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: Crossing Over Question
Date: 22 Dec 1996 21:42:16 GMT
Lines: 31
Message-ID: <59k9vo$6nd@duke.telepac.pt>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ah2_p3.telepac.pt

John Carroll <pp001356@mindspring.com> escreveu:
> After checking assorted books on biology and biochemistry about
> how crossing over takes place during meiosis, I find myself still
> confused on a couple of points that an expert could undoubtedly 
> clear up without breaking a sweat.  Here are the points of confusion:
> 
> 	1. In the diagrams of crossing over that I've seen, one segment
> 	   of DNA on the paternal chromosome is traded for its 
> 	   counterpart on the maternal chromosome.  I assume that
> 	   this actually takes place at many points along the 	   
> 	   chromosomes, rather than just the one shown in diagrams,
> 	   but I haven't seen any text to confirm that suspicion or 
> 	   any diagrams showing multiple crossovers.  Does crossing
> 	   over actually occur at many separate places on the 
> 	   chromosome?  If so, roughly how many segments are likely,
> 	   on average,to be exchanged per chromosome?  And roughly how
>            big are such segments, on average? 
> 
> 	2. When DNA molecules are cut during the crossing over process,
> 	   are they cut only on linker strands (my guess) or only on
> 	   DNA attached to nucleosomes, or on both kinds of locations?
> 
> The world's fate doesn't hang on answers to these questions, as you
> may have guessed, but they're driving me nuts.  All responses
> appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> John Carroll
> pp001356@mindspring.com
> 


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Dec 26 22:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov!biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 27 Dec 1996 02:01:55 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology
Lines: 239
Sender: daemon@net.bio.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <199612271000.CAA26454@net.bio.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net

(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where 