From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Tue Jun 03 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers.rutgers.edu!gatech!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!news.u.washington.edu!roach From: roach@u.washington.edu (Jared Roach) Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: Re: mapping large segments Date: 4 Jun 1997 23:30:02 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5n4tpq$rf6@nntp3.u.washington.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: saul2.u.washington.edu NNTP-Posting-User: roach In article , Joe Miller wrote: > > I am working on a 100kb BAC fragment and have subcloned several >repetitive and single copy sequences (all less than 3 kb). I would like to >make a restriction map of the entire BAC. Other than subcloning smaller >fragments (e.g. 10-50 kb) which could take a long time to dissect and order >does anyone have any suggestions for making a broad baseline map of the >entire BAC? I assume you mean _larger_ fragments? 10 kb subsequences are one standard for our BAC sequencing group. You should be able to put together a restriction map following multiple complete digest of such plasmids. An alternative is to end-sequence these plasmids, which offers concrete sequence data as well as a map, and may handle repeats better than restriction digests. See for example, my paper: "Pairwise End-sequencing. Roach et al. Genomics. 26:345-353. 1995." I don't know of an "easier" method, barring prior knowledge of sequence features of the target, such as STSs or known coding sequences, which can be used, for example, to design primers for a PCR based approach. Hope this helps. -Jared ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jared C. Roach Department of Molecular Biotechnology Health Sciences Building, Room K354 University of Washington Box 357730 Seattle, WA 98195 phone (206) 616-4536 FAX (206) 685-7301 roach@u.washington.edu http://weber.u.washington.edu/~roach/ From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Jun 08 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!news.Stanford.EDU!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!server1.netnews.ja.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!daresbury!is.bbsrc.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!hgmp.mrc.ac.uk!iron!mrna36 From: Course Account 36 Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: Re: turner syndrome Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 17:14:23 +0100 Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <19970530021900.WAA28999@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: iron.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mrna36@iron To: BEZUHOFII In-Reply-To: <19970530021900.WAA28999@ladder02.news.aol.com> hi.. this is a test message.. thanks.. On 30 May 1997, BEZUHOFII wrote: > I would like to receive any information anyone can provide me about this > condition > > From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Jun 11 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers!uwm.edu!news.he.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!server3.netnews.ja.net!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!news From: Ricky Critcher Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: Wasp Chromosomes Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:12:52 +0100 Organization: Genetics Department, Cambridge Univ., UK Lines: 13 Message-ID: <339FD9B3.7CA4@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> Reply-To: rc@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: png-mac9.gen.cam.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi Does anyone have any experience or information about obtaining chromosomes from wasps. Any info gratefully recieved Thanks in advance Ricky Critcher Dept. of Genetics Cambridge University UK From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Jun 11 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!theplanet.net!news From: "Mike Davey" Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: 18q- syndrome Date: 12 Jun 1997 22:44:57 GMT Organization: [not set] Lines: 5 Message-ID: <01bc7780$c25b16c0$1a4698c2@mikedave> NNTP-Posting-Host: n70i026.c1r2.pol.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 My Daughter Claire has 18q- syndrome. Any parent with a cchild also having 18q- an contact me by e-mail mike@mfdavey.prestel.co.uk From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Jun 12 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!128.228.4.60!news.cuny.edu!doc.mssm.edu!fud01 From: DFU Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: gene hunting Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:57:38 -0400 Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: doc.mssm.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, We have narrowed down a disease gene within a 10 cM region on the human genome. Anybody can tell me what is the best way to trace it further? Thanks, DFU Email: fud01@doc.mssm.edu From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Jun 12 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!news.Stanford.EDU!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!128.228.4.60!news.cuny.edu!doc.mssm.edu!fud01 From: DFU Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: Gene-hunting Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 17:32:58 -0400 Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: doc.mssm.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, We have narrowed down a disease gene within a 10 cM region on the human genome. Can anyone tell me what is the best way to trace it further? Thanks. DFU Email: fud01@doc.mssm.edu From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Fri Jun 13 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!news.he.net!news2.fibr.net!news1.fibr.net!news.fibr.net!news From: Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: http://www.planetfun.com/videosex.htm Date: 14 Jun 1997 05:48:24 GMT Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5ntbb8$eb3@nimitz.fibr.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: port1-6.lconn.com http://www.planetfun.com/videosex.htm Adults Only From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Jun 23 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!CEYLAN.NECKER.FR!aral From: aral@CEYLAN.NECKER.FR (aral) Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: flow-sorted human chromosomes Date: 23 Jun 1997 22:15:29 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 10 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <33AF570A.7609@necker.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Hello netters! Does anyone out there know where I can find flow sorted indivudual human chromosomes either as a commercial supply or a gift? thank you for your interest -- Dr B. Aral Tel: 331 40 61 56 92 Fax: 331 40 61 56 90 URA CNS 1335, Faculte de Medecine Necker Enfants-Malades 156 rue de vaugirard 75730, Paris, France E-Mail:aral@necker.fr From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon Jun 23 23:00:00 1997 Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Path: biosci!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au!marlin.jcu.edu.au!dmill6.jcu.edu.au!user From: modmo@jcu.edu.au (Dimitri Odorico) Subject: HELP ON BLOTTING MEGABASE DNA Message-ID: Sender: news@marlin.jcu.edu.au (USENET News System) Organization: JCU Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 03:57:06 GMT Lines: 15 Does anyone have a proven protocol for blotting large DNA fragments and Chromsomes. I have tried using conventional techniques and the DNA appeared to transfer, however, DNA probes that such as rDNA probes gave no signal. Labelling etc were all fine. Whats going on? Could it be the immobilised DNA was not adequately denatured or did not bind to the charged membrane (Amersham Hybond N and N+)? Please respond to my email address below, any help would be grately appreciated. Thanks Julian Catmull julian.catmull@jcu.edu.au From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Jun 26 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator) Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser Date: 27 Jun 1997 02:00:10 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 233 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199706270900.CAA00879@net.bio.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net (LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95) This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up the *most frequently*. The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/. If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet information searches or answer scientific questions. Please post those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. Contents: -------- 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! ------------------------------ BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our Web site at http://www.bio.net/. We need just a few minutes of your time to help us serve you. You can do two important things which will take very little time for you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you. First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the archives. You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as described in item #1 below. Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term. Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass this message on to your marketing or marketing communications department or other appropriate group. Please ask them to help support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are interested, they can then contact us for further information at our tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net. 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. -------------------------------------------------------- As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net. One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured properly to send e-mail. Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS index. The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address database described in another item further below. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. ------------------------------------------------------- BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups), mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/. The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net). Unfortunately it is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of newsgroups and mailing lists. These attempts to grab free advertising are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net terminology. USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the mailing lists. 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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun Jun 29 23:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!darwin.com!mulligan From: mulligan@darwin.com (John Mulligan) Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes Subject: unsubscribe Date: 30 Jun 1997 13:17:48 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 3 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net unsubscribe