From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed Jan 06 22:00:00 1999
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From: Peter Sterk <sterk@ebi.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: Re: human chromosome 11 question
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 09:06:25 +0000
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Dear Thomas,

Do you mean size? It's about 144 Mbases according to (and not 
very recent): 
N.E. Morton. Parameters of the human genome. 
Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 88:7474-7476(1991). 
The true size should be known in 2003 if the genome
project goes according to plan. Follow its progress at:
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~sterk/genome-MOT/

Thomas Radtke wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>     Does anyone have a recent information about what percentage
> chromosome 11 of the human genom is ?
> 
> Thank you very much in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Thomas Radtke

-- 
=====================================================================
Peter Sterk, PhD.
EMBL Nucleotide Sequence Database and Genome Project Curator

EMBL Outstation Hinxton, The European Bioinformatics Institute,
Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge CB10 1SD, U.K.
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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Tue Jan 19 22:00:00 1999
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From: "f.lafitte" <f.lafitte@crbn.unicaen.fr>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: krypton
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:07:41 +0100
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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu Jan 21 22:00:00 1999
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:15:43 +0100
From: Alessandro Somaschini <marco.somaschini@galactica.it>
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Are there european centers able to make the diagnosis of surfactant
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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Tue Jan 26 22:00:00 1999
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From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
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Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
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information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
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	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


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1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
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Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
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really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
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The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
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complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
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newsgroups and recent postings.


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   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

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   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

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Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
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To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
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The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

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    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

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Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
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this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
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Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
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You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
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From: JILKO1@AOL.COM
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Subject: bioinformatics
Date: 30 Jan 1999 13:09:32 -0800
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Hi there

Does anyone know of anything of interest to do with bioinformatics

Thanks

Jilko

