From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sat May 01 23:00:00 1999
From: "Dan Mapp" <drm@clear.net.nz>
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Anybody out there with info on 48xxyy or relevant info regarding
testosterone treatments.
Please mail on drm@clear.net.nz

Thanks Dan & Angie.




From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sat May 01 23:00:00 1999
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Is there any one who can help with some info on 48 xxyy.
Please reply on drm@clear.net.nz
Thanks Dan



From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sat May 01 23:00:00 1999
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<< Subject: 48 xxyy
From: "Dan Mapp" <drm@clear.net.nz>
Date: Sun, May 2, 1999 7:46 AM
Message-id: <OnTW2.339$ja5.10610@news.clear.net.nz>

Is there any one who can help with some info on 48 xxyy.
Please reply on drm@clear.net.nz
Thanks Dan >>

Dan;
Go to the Chromosome disorder site at
http://www.familyvillage.wisc.edu/lib_chro.htm    and click on search alta
vista for Chromosome disorders.  Go to the bottom of the page and click on
chromosome disorders with arrows up & down.
One of the choices is kleinfelter and click on that.  XXYY is a kleinfelter
varient.

Hope this helps,
Roger J.


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sat May 01 23:00:00 1999
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From: Dykes breed dykes - Expose child abuse <chldprt777@hotmail.com>
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        * THIS IS NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT OR SPAM MAIL *

Please support our cause to expose child abuse.

CHILD ABUSE, new form exposed and one reason why teenagers commit
suicide.

* Exposed

It seems geneticists have unwittingly uncovered a form of child
abuse that most people would not have been aware of.

Australian geneticists have found evidence that supports the
existence of a  'Gay' gene and the probability that it is
hereditary. Their evidence suggested that it's the brothers of
lesbians and the sisters of gays that spread this deformity to
the next generation. That is, the (apparently) heterosexual
brother of a lesbian will father more lesbians, while the
(apparently) heterosexual sister of a gay will mother more gays.
This seems to make sense if you look around for examples in our
society, attractive super models and their gay brothers or  tough
guys and their rough sisters.

When their findings were released, these geneticists were
threatened with death from the gay community..

The fact that homosexuality is hereditary may look innocent on
the surface but closer examination reveals something far more
sinister. Gay/lesbian families must have always known that their
'family secret' was hereditary but have always tried to keep this
fact a secret. Why? These parents obviously don't care for the
needs of their children and are just trying to protect
themselves, to hide the fact that they have knowingly deformed
and used their own children, to hide the truth from their
children, to hide the truth from friends and neighbours, to
pretend to be normal.

* Who?

Exposing gay parents is difficult as this deformity has very few
external attributes, thin lips, a turned eye are signs but cannot
be relied on. As it has been proven as hereditary then family
lines may expose the truth.  How many parents act "Prim and
Proper"/ straight and respectable in our society but their
children turn out to be gay/lesbian? And even when their kids are
exposed as gay, these same parents act as though it has nothing
to do with them. This current finding just proves that "act" is
the operative word. But to be fair it's not always both parents
who are gay, how many poor bastards have been conned by a lesbian
or a gay's sister pretending to be a normal wife and mother or
visa versa, and in both cases it's always the children who pay
the price.

Parents who knowingly deform their own children just to pretend
they're straight, or because they don't want to face the truth
about themselves or even sicker, to prove a political point are
very sick, callous people. To accidentally deform a child is a
tragedy, to knowingly deform one must be considered child abuse.
Parents with other types of hereditary deformities generally show
a lot of responsibility to protect their children but not gays
and lesbians. To be born deformed is one thing, but to be proud
of it and to encourage it's spread is very sick. It proves the
gay community have destructive objectives.

These people would like to drag society down to a level where
nobody cares if children are born deformed because then everyone
would be at their level. It's up to caring people to recognise
these facts and fight against it.

* Where

Where do these gay parents hide?,  in religious communities, in
certain country towns, in gay communities, anywhere where sexual
naivety or child neglect abounds. Christian communities are a
favourite place to hide, priests molesting boys just being the
tip of a very large problem. It's about time christian
communities faced up to this problem and purged their ranks
otherwise christianity will be seen as nothing more than hide-out
for child abusers.

* The Damage

It's generally up to the children themselves to find out about
their parents, usually the hard way. How many teenagers have
committed suicide because their parents wouldn't face the truth?
... once the queer is dead, the problem is gone and the parents
innocent demeanour can remain intact. If you think this is too
far fetched then why do western societies have such high rates of
teenage suicides and child abuse? Nobody wants to be deformed and
teenagers do not commit suicide just because of name calling, the
reasons go far deeper. What can be more demoralising than not
only realising that you're gay or lesbian, but to realise you're
been used by gay parents and that their love is nothing more than
a desperate lie..

* Why isn't anything being done?

You don't have to look far to find reasons why this form of child
abuse isn't being exposed. Gays and lesbians have infiltrated
many positions of power, especially in politics and religion. In
Australia we've recently exposed pedophile Priests and City
Mayors, child molesting Judges and respectable Politicians and
their 'Purple children' ....  'It runs very deep!'

The gay community always try to portray themselves as the
innocent victims of our society. Their influence in the movie
industry , the media and especially in music have been used
slowly but surely to promote this image. 'Homophobic' ..
'Intolerance' and 'Bigot' are their catch cries ... it's a pity
the word 'Responsibility' to children isn't in vogue at the
moment. These new genetic findings tend to contradict their
innocence and shows them more as instigators, with children as
the victims.

* Final Answer

Sooner or later the genes for homosexuality and lesbianism will
be discovered then there will be no hiding for gay parents. Then
it will be easy to discover who the child users are hiding in our
society.

* Fight for child rights

When are honest people going to stand up to these abuses? How
long do teenagers have to commit suicide before someone or some
group has the courage to expose the real truth? ,to take on gay
communities?

Fight for child rights, to give children the POWER to protect
themselves from those adults who would use them.

Simply, you could 'Forward' this message onto 3 other people who
you know care for the
needs of children or you may send a return email pledging your
support, or preferably both! ... The time is now to expose this
TRUTH!

Thank you for your time.




P.S. Expect Gay community lies responding to this post.





From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Sun May 02 23:00:00 1999
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From: art roberts <arthurr@wsunix.wsu.edu>
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Does anyone here know the number of chromosomes that the mosquito and cat
have?

Thanks,
Joseph



From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Mon May 17 19:33:00 1999
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Arthur J. Lustig
Associate Professor
Tulane University Medical Center
1430 Tulane Avenue
New Orleans, LA 70112
phone: 504-584-3688

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 4 Dec 1998 09:51:04 -0800
From: "Lustig, Arthur J." <alustig@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
To: biochrom@net.bio.net
Subject: telomeres at Tulane

POSTDOCTORAL FELLOWS TO STUDY TELOMERE STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION

	A postdoctoral position is available to investigate telomere
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	1) THE MECHANISM OF TELOMERIC SILENCING
	RECENT REFERENCES
	Park et al., Sir3p Domains Involved in the Initiation of Telomeric
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Tulane University Medical Center
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Does any one know where I can find info on chromosome 13 monosomy.

I found a limited amount of info in the web sites of the National
Orginisation for Rare Disorders and also in Gateway.

Advice please as to where else I might look

Thanks.

Brendan Casey.



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Human Genome Variation: Analysis, Management and Application
of SNP Data

A session of the Pacific Symposium on Biocomputing 2000,
Honolulu, Hawaii, January 5-9, 2000


Recently there has been considerable interest in using
single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNP) for the understanding
of complex diseases and for pharamacogenetics. The human
genetics community, both private and academic, is engaged in
large scale SNP discovery efforts and assay development.
With the imminent development of high throughput
methodologies for automating the SNP discovery and screening
process, it is likely that many if not all of the common
polymorphisms will be identified and characterized in the
next several years.

As is often the case, data production may outpace current
data management and analysis capabilities. New, specialized
SNP databases are being designed and implemented to capture
the impending flood of polymorphism data. Comprehensiveness
of the captured data and the exploration of its intellectual
content is essential. Computational methods and tools to
handle and analyze polymorphism data flow will certainly
play an important role in this challenge.

Call for Participation

The PSB 2000 session "Human Genome Variation: Analysis,
Management and Application of SNP Data" aims to provide a
timely forum in this area, bringing together computer
scientists, bioinformatics specialists and biologists, from
academia and industry, to address the forthcoming problems
in the utilization of SNP information.

We encourage academic, industrial and government scientists
to submit manuscripts. In addition to a session for oral
presentation of novel peer-reviewed contributions, there
will be a panel discussion devised to foster exchange
between industry and academic scientists. Participants are
invited to discuss their issues with other peers in this
panel session. Posters and computer demonstrations are also
requested to complement the session.

Topics

The contributions should pose and discuss a specific problem
that the biocomputing community will need to address,
describe models, or propose specific solutions to a problem.
Sequence polymorphisms will be the common theme, but the
computational or theoretical contributions can span areas
ranging from population genetics and evolution to data
visualization and management.

Among the anticipated topics are:

Automation of large scale SNP genotyping.
Data management and integration for SNP genotyping systems.
Evolutionary aspects of genome variability and SNP analysis.
Ontologies for human genome variation.
SNP database mining and knowledge discovery.
Statistical methods for SNP analysis.
Tools for high throughput SNP discovery and screening.
Visualization and analysis of SNP data.

Submissions

PSB will publish accepted full papers in an archival
proceedings indexed in MEDLINE. All contributed papers will
be rigorously peer-reviewed by at least three referees. A
limited number of papers will be selected for a 30-minute
oral presentation to the full assembled conference. Accepted
poster abstracts will be distributed at the conference
separately from the archival Proceedings. Please prepare
your submission according to the instructions found at the
Web page:
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/psb/cfp-snp.html

Dates & Deadlines

Paper submissions due: July 12, 1999
Notification of paper acceptance: August 27, 1999
Camera ready of accepted papers due: September 24, 1999
Abstract deadline: October 1, 1999
Meeting: January 5-9, 2000

Conference Information

The Pacific Symposium on Biocomputing (PSB 2000) is an
international, multidisciplinary conference for the
presentation and discussion of current research in the
theory and application of computational methods in problems
of biological significance. PSB 2000 will be held January 5-
9, 2000, in Honolulu, Hawaii at the Sheraton Waikiki. For
more information see the official PSB 2000 Web page at :
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/psb/

Session Chairs

Francisco M. De La Vega, Synthesis and Arrays R&D,
PE Biosystems, Foster City, CA, USA.
E-mail: DelaveFM@pebio.com

Martin Kreitman, Department of Ecology and Evolution,
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL, USA.
E-mail: mkre@midway.uchicago.edu



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From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed May 26 02:28:00 1999
Path: biosci!MINDSPRING.COM!grizzlyan
From: grizzlyan@MINDSPRING.COM (Michael Sherrell)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: MS, seqs, synths, NMRs for sale
Date: 25 May 1999 20:28:28 -0700
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Mass spectrometers, sequencers, synthesizers, NMRs for sale:
LC/Mass spectrometers:
     Sciex API III+ LC/MS/MS $ 69,000 ES, APCI, under PE service contract
     HP 1100 benchtop LC/MSD, APCI & API-electrospray, autosampler, DAD detector, < 1 year old, $130,000
     Finnigan Navigator benchtop LC/MS: $ 75,000; 18 mos. old; factory refurb, install & 90-day warr. included
    Finnigan TSQ 7000 LC+GC/MS/MS: $ 97,500; current software; API-1 source; under Finnigan service contract
     Sciex 150 benchtop LC/MS: $ 98,000; 2 yrs old; includes Gilson 215 liquid handler, ELSD detector & HP 1100 HPLC.
      Finnigan SSQ 7000 LC/MS: $130,000; API-2 source, electrospray + APCI, Excaliber software, factory refurb, 90-day warranty, install included
     Micromass II: $50,000; ES, APCI, 3 yrs. old, includes HPLC, NOT Z-spray
     HP 5989B LC+GC/MS: $ 35,000; Extended mass range (2000 amu), hex ion guide; HPLC & warranty avail.
     Finnigan MAT 90: $30,000; Hi-resolution magnetic sector
     Fisons VG 2000: <$100,000
MALDI-TOFs:
     Hewlett-Packard G2025A $ 50,000
Peptide and oligo synthesizers and sequencers:
     ABI 394: $12,500 (Valve blocks rebuilt; warranteed)
     ABI 390Z: $4,000 (50-100uM yields)
     ABI 431: $12,500 (Rebuilt, warranteed)
     ABI 433: $19,000 (ABI upgrade)
     PerSeptive 9050+: $6,000 (As is/was working when decommissioned; add $3,500 for rebuild/warranty)
     ABI 373 stretch: $9,000 (Big dye upgrade; still under warranty)
     ABI 373 stretch: $7,000 (4-filter)
     ABI 377: $97,500 (XL; 96 lanes; transferrable ABI service contract)
     ABI 377: $60,000 (48-lane; under ABI contract)
     ABI Procise 492: $45,000 obo (ABI-certified)
NMRs:
     Bruker DMX 600: $495,000; AVANCE; 3-axis gradients
     Varian Unity 500+: call for price; broadband
     Bruker AM360: $85,000; broadband; widebore; install included
     Varian Gemini 300: call for price; widebore; broadband; remote sampling arm; ~1992
     Varian Gemini 300: $69,000; proton/carbon probe; freight, install, 90-day warr. included
     Varian Unity 500: call for price; broadband
Also available:
      Hitachi 570 scanning electron microscope, Kevex detector, running now, $35,000.
      BD FACSVantage and assorted FACScans
Various other seqencers, synthesizers etc. are available; please inquire or check the website.

Michael Sherrell
Grizzly Analytical
707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com

From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Wed May 26 20:01:00 1999
From: Andrey Shaw <andrey@immunology.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: ABI377 DNA sequencer for sale
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:35:38 -0500
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i trying to sell an ABI 377.  It is two years old and used less than
twice a week.  I looking to get $50,000 for it.  It is still under
service contract and is a 36 lane.  I can have it upgraded to 64 but the
price will have to go to $60,000.  It would come with 3 or 4 sets o
plates and combs.  please contact me if you are interested.


Andrey S. Shaw
Department of Pathology
Washington University School of Medicine
(314) 362-6311




From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu May 27 05:26:00 1999
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Subject: cell death
From: ljsmith@flash.net (LJ Smith)
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I have a question (actually 2) that is probably so elementary it might make 
some of you laugh, but working the premise that there are no stupid 
questions.......
here goes.
Assuming that cells are "programmed" to undergo a certain number of divisions 
and then they die, how is it that we have a continuous amount of cells to 
replace the dead ones, such as with skin cells?  Where do these "fresh" cells 
come from?  
If you start with a single cell that undergoes mitosis and you now have 2 
cells, each with its own genome, did the repicated chromatids assort in such a 
manner that some of the original strands and some of the replicated strands 
end up in both cells?
Does a renewable source of young cells arise from some type of stem cell?

These are a couple of those questions that I have consistently tucked away to 
be contemplated at a later date. 

                        Thanks,
                        L.J. Smith


From owner-chromosomes@net.bio.net Thu May 27 08:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.genome.chromosomes
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
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	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
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BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
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PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
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A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
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To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.


