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From: odonnell@sasa.gov.uk ("Kevin O'Donnell")
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Following the succesful vote on full newsgroup status 
for bionet.diagnostics, I retained an e-mail subscription as well as read=
ing 
it as a newsgroup. Recently I have noticed that some posts which I 
receive by e-mail have not appeared on the version of diagnostics I get =
on 
my newsreader. In particular, someone posted a very interesting abstract =

of a recent publication which I deleted from my e-mail in-tray in the =

expectation that I would have the newsreader version.

In addition, I posted a version of this message via my newsreader some =
days ago. Although it has appeared there, it has not appeared as an e-mai=
l message!

Has anyone else noticed this discrepancy or is it a problem specific to =
my 
end of things?
  

Dr Kevin O'Donnell		     
Diagnostics and Molecular Biology
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh                         		odonnell@sasa.gov.uk          
      















From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Oct 04 23:00:00 1995
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From: vigfrid.ness@veths.no (Vigfrid Ness)
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Subject: Protozoa
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Hi

For bacteria one can order strains from ATCC and NCTC etc.
My question is does there excist similar collections for protozoa????
And if so how do I get in touch with them -address, fax etc.

Vigfrid N=E6ss


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Oct 05 23:00:00 1995
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> Date:          Thu, 05 Oct 95 20:35:23
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> Hi
> 
> For bacteria one can order strains from ATCC and NCTC etc.
> My question is does there excist similar collections for protozoa????
> And if so how do I get in touch with them -address, fax etc.
> 
> Vigfrid N=E6ss
> 
> 
> 
> 

I have no USA address, but for Europe you could try the Information 
Centre for European Culture Collections, Braunschweig, Germany,
tel 0531 61 8715/22

Rob Harling

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Oct 05 23:00:00 1995
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        This is to inform you that October 10th, 1995 my E-mail address will 
        be changed from H.Huttinga@ipo.agro.nl to H.Huttinga@ipo.DLO.nl.
	At the same time almost all telephone numbers in the Netherlands 
	will be changed.  

	Kind regards,

        
	H. Huttinga
	DLO Research Institute for Plant Protection (IPO-DLO)
	Binnenhaven 5, 
	P.O.Box 9060,
	6700 GW  Wageningen, the Netherlands
        After October 10, 1995:
	Tel.: ** 31 317 476249 
	Fax.: ** 31 317 410113
	E-mail: H.Huttinga@IPO.DLO.NL



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Oct 05 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: Development of Hepatitis A Rapid Tests
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Diagnostics Newsgroup Members:

We are working on the development of a Hepatitis A rapid ELISA kit.
 Hepatitis A antigens from two sources have been tested, but results have not
been satisfactory.  We would like to test Hepatitis A antigens from other
sources.  Hepatitis A patient samples are also needed for the study.  Any
information regarding sources of Hepatitis A antigen and patient samples will
be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tsai-Hsia Hong
ediagnos@aol.com

************************************************
Tsai-Hsia Hong, Ph.D.
Assistant Director, Immunology Division
2761 Marine Way
Mountain View, CA  94043 USA
Phone  415-960-0516
Fax 415-691-1578
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Oct 05 23:00:00 1995
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From: grovesa@starbase1.caltech.edu (Andrew K. Groves)
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We have set up a Web Page for our lab's in situ hybridisation protocols.
These protocols describe the use of non-radioactive probes for in situ
hybridisation on tissue sections, cultured cells and whole mounts.

The Web page can be found at:

http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~mercer/htmls/Big_In_Situ.html


which is part of Eric Mercer's comprehensive Mouse and Rat Resource page at:

http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~mercer/htmls/rodent_page.html

-- 
Andy Groves
Division of Biology, 216-76
California Institute of Technology

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sat Oct 07 23:00:00 1995
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Hello Fellow Netters,

                                 Anybody out there who knows of any
commercially available diagnostic test kits for the detection of cholera?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Tom Foley,
tfoley@deltanet.com



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Oct 08 23:00:00 1995
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From: gold@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Bert Gold)
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Hi Netters,

Having just finished reading the new Nature Genetics paper by
Struewing et al. on the high (1%) frequency of the BRCA1 mutation
among Ashkenazi Jews, I would be interested in hearing opinions
about the perceived necessity for population screening at this
threshold.

For those of you that haven't yet seen the paper, it is in:
Nature Genetics, 11: 198-200 (1995).


I am aware of the concensus conferences cited in the paper which
supported screening at this threshold, but that was all theoretical,
before we knew that there was a gene that would create this level
of anxiety.

What are the genetics community's thoughts now?

My new email address is bgold@itsa.ucsf.edu, not what you see above.

Please feel free to write with your thoughts... It is true that
for me this issue strikes home, as indeed, my heritage is that
of an Ashkenazi Jew and breast cancer d ovarian cancer have
been e in bot own and wife's family.

Bert Gold
UCSF
. 



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Oct 08 23:00:00 1995
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From: CIHTFSTR <CIHTFSTR@lshtm.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: How to Get Free Cable Premium TV .. LEGIT
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md@goodnet.com (Mike Denton) wrote:

>
>Send...
>
>    $1.00 U.S MONEY    *** NO COINS *** NO CHECKS ***
> inside a sheet of carbon paper or construction paper, 
> and send a *self-addressed*,*stamped* envelope to the
> address above.
>
>

Would you be equally happy with an international reply coupon, or is the
purpose just to collect US$ 1.00 notes? It sounds too good to be true...


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Oct 09 23:00:00 1995
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I have wondered if I was still on the list - I get so little these days, I've
just been too busy to do something about it. I thought it might be because I use
email via compuserve.

Philip
Biodot Ltd
100273.165@compuserve.com


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Oct 09 23:00:00 1995
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From: Caz Nahman <cjn@land.sun.ac.za>
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Oct 09 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: Small Chromatography Syringes
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Okay all you diagnostics mavens .... it seems to me that in the early to
mid-1980s some company came out with small chromatography columns for doing
drug or isoenzyme separations (I can't remember which, or both) for clinical
use.  The column itself was packed in a syringe and after you placed the
sample on top of the column, buffer was added and you used the syringe to
force the sample through the column ...otherwise, with no hydrostatic head
you could wait until you retired for the sample to move through the column.

Does anybody else remember these toys and perhaps who manufactured/marketed
them?

If you do, I'd like to hear from you.

Thanks.

Ken Krul

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Oct 12 23:00:00 1995
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From: Berit.Gron@veths.no (Berit Gron)
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Subject: Re: Antibodies against Hexamita
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Hello,
 I am loocking for antibodies against the protozoa Hexamita spp/
Spironucleus spp. I have tried Linscott's and some other catalogues, but so
far it has been unsuccessful. Do somebody have a suggestion where I can find
these antibodies???

Thanks in advance.


Berit Gr=F8n
Research Scientist


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Oct 12 23:00:00 1995
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From: cgrove@lia.co.za (Carel Grove)
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Subject: Urgent: Unknown Neurological condition
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:13:59 GMT
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I would not normally post something like this but
I decided to do it because this is extremely urgent.

About an hour ago I was informed about the following
situation regarding a friend's daughter.

I will only summarize:

(She is eight years old and has a family history with
Tourette Syndrome).

She was playing hockey when she developed acute
headache followed by vomiting.

This happened very suddenly.

She did not get injured physically at all. In other 
words the headache was not a result of her getting 
hit on her head or anything like that.

She was at first treated for encephalitis with no
result.

Blood was found in her spinal fluid.

X-Rays pointed to a brain tumour in the cerebellum
but upon operating no tumour was found, a large blood
clot was found instead. (in the cerebellum)

She regained consciousness the following day (Monday).

Tuesday afternoon she had a series of convulsions
(epileptic seizures). After that, a rapid decent
into coma.

She now has respiratory failure as well as liver failure.

Blood platelets so low there is blood seeping out
of her mouth and nose.

She still has a large amount of Phenobarb in her system,
so tests can only be done in 48 hours. 

She is treated in one of the top clinics in South Africa,
but no one seems to know what on earth is happening 
to her. 

If anybody knows or has any experience whatsoever
with a condition like this, will you please get in contact
with me as soon as possible. Any information will be
appreciated very very much

If possible, please forward this to anyone who might know
about this condition.


Carel Grove
--
Tel: +27 12 667-2291
E-Mail: cgrove@lia.co.za
or 100076.1343@compuserve.com


 



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sat Oct 14 23:00:00 1995
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From: pp002271@interramp.com (Michael R. Knapp)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.genome-program,bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: Struewing Article on BRCA1 in Nature Geneticssc
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In article <45aa2c$lf2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>,
gold@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Bert Gold) wrote:

> Having just finished reading the new Nature Genetics paper by
> Struewing et al. on the high (1%) frequency of the BRCA1 mutation
> among Ashkenazi Jews, I would be interested in hearing opinions
> about the perceived necessity for population screening at this
> threshold.

There would surely be a cost-benefit analysis that could, at a given point
in technology time, come up with an answer that takes into account
diagnostic testing costs, therapeutic alternatives, life-style adaptation,
etc.  However, for a while, testing decisions should probably remain
personal ones given the emotional implications, inadequate prognostic
data, and lack of a broad therapeutic arsenal for most genetic variants
that cause disease.  If I was at risk for a particular mutation, I would
want to know and would inform myself systematically of research progress. 
However, for most people, having access to an informed health care
community that can intelligently present options to patients in a rapidly
changing knowledge environment will be the only way to ensure a productive
use of genetic data during the historical period where information about
DNA sequence differences is available but efficacious treatments for the
diseases they cause are not.

Mike Knapp

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Subject: MINOXIDIL
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I am loosing my hair.
COuld somebody help me. Is minoxidil good what is it?


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sat Oct 14 23:00:00 1995
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From: Larry.Winger@ncl.ac.uk (Larry Winger)
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Hi Vigfrid,  haven't seen any collection answer publicly yet, so I'll add
the following 2p below:

 >collections for protozoa????
>And if so how do I get in touch with them -address, fax etc.

There are strange sources of information, but few stranger than this one --
I'm doing secondary teacher training in a remote school up in the North
Pennines, and tucked away in a back shelf in the prep room, I came upon
this booklet:  "Culturing Algae:  a guide for schools and colleges" which
was prepared by the Culture collection of Algae and Protozoa, of the
Natural Environment Research Council, of UK.    I think this council and
the Science and Engineering Research Council were all subsumed under the
British Biotechnology  and Science Research Council about 5 years ago, but
the culture collection might still be extant.  The address (to which they
moved in 1986) is:

Culture Collection of Algae and Protozoa
Freshwater Biological Association
The Ferry House
Ambleside, Cumbria
United Kingdom

The following number was published in the booklet -- I think it's defunct.
Windermere (019662) 2468

The number of the Freshwater Biological Association at Ambleside is:
(01539)442468
Confirmed this afternoon with directory enquiries; maybe they can re-direct.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Larry




        Larry  'wearing three hats in these cold times'  Winger

            Larry.Winger@ncl.ac.uk     http://georgia.ncl.ac.uk
LarryWinger@mkn.co.uk         http://mkn.co.uk/help/extra/craftnet/craft

      Larry A. Winger (First Class) Open University PGCE SecondaryScience



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Oct 15 23:00:00 1995
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Dear net users  
 
I fail to see the relevance of questions about minoxidil and  hair 
loss to the diagnost net so please think before you post.  
Incidentally, I really would not worry about the balding you can't have 
brains and hair.

Thank you
David E. L. Cooke
Mycology and Bacteriology Dept.
Scottish Crop Research Institute
Invergowrie, Dundee, DD1 5DA.
Tel 0382 562731 
FAX 0382 562426

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> Date:          Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:54:11
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> Subject: MINOXIDIL
> Message-ID: <45qkms$8hi@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr>
> From: Erwan Le Roy <Erwan.LeRoy@cipcinsa.insa-lyon.fr>
> Date: 15 Oct 1995 09:36:28 GMT
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> I am loosing my hair.
> COuld somebody help me. Is minoxidil good what is it?
> 
> 
> 
>
Minoxidil is a product from the Upjohn Co.;  it is licensed, at least 
in the UK (where it is called Regaine), for male pattern baldness, 
ie natural baldness.  
Trials have shown some limited success against alopecia areata, the patchy 
kind of hair loss, but not for the totalis/universalis kind where all 
hair drops out.  It is expensive, particularly if you buy supplies 
from a private hair care clinic as opposed to a pharmacy;  it is a 
long term treatment, months or years, and if successful, may need to 
be continued indefinitely or newly - grown hair may drop out again.   

There is no certain cure for alopecia;  some people respond to 
certain treatments better than others, others do not respond at all, 
others get spontaneously better.  Perhaps before rushing out to buy 
minoxidil you should try and get your hands on a drug called 
diphencyprone (DPC).  It is made by the Kodak photographic company - it was 
never intended as a drug, but photographic workers who came into 
contact with it found that they sprouted hair in unwanted places.  
I suggest you try and get an appointment with the Dermatology clinic 
at your local hospital and ask if they can arrange a course of 
treatment with DPC. It is applied topically to the patchy areas.
In the UK it is only available experimentally 
through clinics, as far as I am aware.   DPC is possibly more 
effective than minoxidil, but this is anecdotal.  

If you cannot get hold of DPC, try a herbalist for some Primula 
obconica;  this is supposed to work in the same way as DPC, by 
inducing a localised (maybe even systemic) allergic reaction to 
counteract the auto - immune response which causes alopecia.  

I wish you success with this distressing condition.  I should add 
that I am not a qualified physician, but I have an interest in auto - 
immune disorders;  needless to say any action you take on the above 
is at your own risk.  



 

Dr Rob Harling
SAC (Scottish Agricultural College)/
  University of Edinburgh
West Mains Road
Edinburgh EH9 3JG
Scotland, UK
tel: +44 (0)131 535 4000
fax: +44 (0)131 667 2601
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test of diagnost@net.bio.net; please ignore.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Oct 16 23:00:00 1995
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On 16 Oct David Cooke wrote:

> Date:          Mon, 16 Oct 95 22:59:51
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> To:            mx%"diagnost@net.bio.net"
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> Dear net users  
>  
> I fail to see the relevance of questions about minoxidil and  hair 
> loss to the diagnost net so please think before you post.  
> Incidentally, I really would not worry about the balding you can't have 
> brains and hair.
> 
> Thank you
> David E. L. Cooke
> Mycology and Bacteriology Dept.
> Scottish Crop Research Institute
> Invergowrie, Dundee, DD1 5DA.
> Tel 0382 562731 
> FAX 0382 562426
> 
> 
>
I'm happy to interpret diagnostics in its widest sense so this 
question was fine by me.  And when Einstein died, he had shoulder 
length hair.  
 

Dr Rob Harling
SAC (Scottish Agricultural College)/
  University of Edinburgh
West Mains Road
Edinburgh EH9 3JG
Scotland, UK
tel: +44 (0)131 535 4000
fax: +44 (0)131 667 2601
e mail: esa009@ed.sac.ac.uk


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Subject: UROLITHIASIS................Please help
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Can anyone point me towards the causes and biochemical investigation of 
urolithiasis, perhaps with reference to some recent papers on the 
subject?  Any information would be great.........many thanks in 
advance.-- 


Bryony Heasman

bryony@spectron.demon.co.uk


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From: odonnell@sasa.gov.uk (Kevin O'Donnell)
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In article <199510061020.DAA01770@net.bio.net>, 
ESA009@ED.SAC.AC.UK ("Dr Rob Harling") says:
>
>> Date:          Thu, 05 Oct 95 20:35:23
>> From:          <vigfrid.ness@veths.no>
>> Subject:       Protozoa
>> To:            mx%"diagnost@net.bio.net"

>> Hi
>> 
>> For bacteria one can order strains from ATCC and NCTC etc.
>> My question is does there excist similar collections for protozoa????
>> And if so how do I get in touch with them -address, fax etc.
>> 
>> Vigfrid N=E6ss
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>I have no USA address, but for Europe you could try the Information 
>Centre for European Culture Collections, Braunschweig, Germany,
>tel 0531 61 8715/22
>
>Rob Harling


Or, if you have access to the WWW, check out the Culture Collection of 
Algae and Protozoa page. The URL is:

http://wiua.nwi.ac.uk/ccap/ccaphome.html

There is also a large collection of links to protozoa resources at:

http://megasun.bch.umontreal.ca/protists/otherprodbs.html


Kevin O'Donnell
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh
Scotland                                           

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>> brains and hair.
>>
>> Thank you
>> David E. L. Cooke
>> Mycology and Bacteriology Dept.
>> Scottish Crop Research Institute
>>
>I'm happy to interpret diagnostics in its widest sense so this
>question was fine by me.  And when Einstein died, he had shoulder
>length hair.
>
>
>Dr Rob Harling
>SAC (Scottish Agricultural College)/
>

Just imagine what Einstein might have achieved if only he'd been bald 
like Newton! 

Roger W.
Ag.Canada


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Robert Burns

Monoclonal Antibody Unit
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency
East Craigs
Edinburgh
Scotland

burns@sasa.gov.uk




From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 17 23:00:00 1995
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Dear diagnost net

While I was maybe a little flippant about the request for information 
about about Minoxidil and I do recognise that this type of discussion 
group is supposed to be broad I do think it is worth taking a look at the 
Charter (I think this is the current version Kevin?).  

There has been little discussion of any diagnostic import recently so 
maybe I could repeat a plea I put out about a year ago.  Has anyone 
seen a piece of software for selecting PCR primers other than all the 
current ones select a pair of primers for a single length of 
sequence data.  What I need is someting to analyse ribosomal 
sequences from several species of pathogenic fungi and select the 
best primer for specific amplification of species X and no other 
species.  I am sure there is a great market for such a piece of 
software (if there are any budding programmers out there).

Also is there any more news about the EU patent challenge from 
promega regarding Taq polymerase?

The charter follows.
<<< 
PROPOSAL FOR DIAGNOSTICS NEWSGROUP

The Diagnostics newsgroup is a forum for discussion of problems and techniques 
(primarily serological or nucleic acid-based)  involved in all fields of diagnostics.  
Subjects for discussion and comment include  methodology, automation, quality 
assurance and other subjects of interest and concern to those developing and/or using 
diagnostic tests

JUSTIFICATION

Despite the large number of scientists involved in diagnostics, there is no newsgroup 
devoted to this subject.  The prototype Diagnostics newsgroup was set up to fill this gap 
and has gained enough support to justify a vote for full newsgroup status.  The  
prototype newsgroup has included postings on the detection and identification of 
diseases, pathogens (animal and plant) and also diagnostic functions which do not fit 
into either category.   This composition has helped to establish common ground (and 
therefore intellectual and methodological cross-fertilization) between people and 
laboratories.  For example, The problems facing scientists developing PCR assays for 
Listeria are similar to those facing scientists developing PCR assays for bacterial soft 
rots in plants.

Within the various disciplines there are common problems regarding methods, 
immunogens, cross-reactivity, automation, materials, quality assurance and other issues 
that are not recognized by those using similar techniques for other purposes.

The Diagnostics newsgroup will address and help solve these problems by providing a 
forum for their discussion between individuals of various experience and disciplines.  

Kevin O'Donnell		     
Diagnostics and Molecular Biology
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh                         		odonnell@sasa.gov.uk          
>>>>

Regards 

David Cooke      













David E. L. Cooke
Mycology and Bacteriology Dept.
Scottish Crop Research Institute
Invergowrie, Dundee, DD1 5DA.
Tel 0382 562731 
FAX 0382 562426

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                       Fourth International Conference on

                     VISUALIZATION IN BIOMEDICAL COMPUTING

                           Sept. 22 - Sept. 25, 1996

                                Hamburg, Germany

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CALL FOR PAPERS

Scope                                                        

Following Georgia Tech, the University of North Carolina, and the Mayo
Institutions, the University of Hamburg will host the 4th conference on
Visualization in Biomedical Computing (VBC'96). Its goal is to enhance and
promote the science of computer based visualization of biomedical 
information, especially about the various aspects of the human body. An 
interdisciplinary, international group of scientists, engineers, and 
clinicians will present and discuss the state of the art concerning 
algorithms, the rapidly increasing number of applications, and the 
practical problems of system design.

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Topics

 Theory and Algorithms     Applications             Systems

    * Models of              *  Diagnostics with      *  Hardware/Software
      Visualization             MRI, CT, PET/SPECT,      Tools
    * Rendering Algorithms      MEG Ultrasound etc.   *  Interactive
    * Image Analysis         *  Microscopy Imaging       Workstations and
    * Multi-Modality Image   *  Surgical and             Networks
      Registration and          Stereotactic          *  Virtual Reality User
      Fusion                    Planning                 Interfaces
    * Shape Description      *  Surgery Simulation    *  Novel Image
      and Characterization   *  Image Guided             Acquisition Equipment
    * Spatial Knowledge         Surgery               *  Special Processors
      Modeling               *  Endoscopy
    * Artificial                Simulation
      Intelligence in        *  Radiation
      Visualization             Treatment Planning
    * Visual Perception      *  Biomechanics and
      and Communication         Orthopedics
    * Virtual / Augmented    *  Dentistry and
      Reality Paradigms         Orthodontics
                             *  Prothetics
                                Development
                             *  Modeling the human
                                body (with emphasis
                                on the brain)
                             *  Anatomy Atlases
                                (with emphasis on
                                VISIBLE HUMAN)
                             *  Medical and
                                Biological
                                Education

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Format

According to the interdisciplinary nature of the conference, it has a 
single track of sessions with 25 minute papers. Posters and 
demonstrations will be located next to the auditorium. Tutorials will be 
held the day before the official opening (Sept. 22) as in the previous 
meetings.
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Submission

Papers
     Authors are invited to submit five copies of an extended abstract 
     not shorter than two pages which may include figures. Submission of 
     full papers is encouraged. The submission must begin with a 50 word 
     statement about the major results of the work.
Posters
     Authors are invited to submit posters under the conditions applying
     for papers. They will be included in the proceedings as short papers.
Demonstrations
     There will be the possibility of hands-on demonstrations. Please 
     submit an outline (not exceeding 2000 words), including the hardware 
     requirements. 
Tutorials
     Proposals for half-day (four hour) tutorials are invited to any aspect
     of visualization in biomedical computing as described in the topics
     section. Proposals should include an outline accompanied by a 
     curriculum vitae.

     VBC`94 offered:
     3D Imaging in Biomedical Computing, Volume Visualization, 
     Visualization in the Neurosurgical OR, Modern 3D Microscopy and 
     Visualization, Multiscale Geometric Image Analysis

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       !    DEADLINES                                     !
       !                                                  !
       !    Paper/Poster Submission : February 1, 1996    !
       !                                                  !
       !    Tutorial Submission : February 1, 1996        !
       !                                                  !
       !    Notification of Acceptance : April 1, 1996    !
       !                                                  !
       !    Full papers : June 15, 1996                   !
       !                                                  !
       !    Demonstration Proposals : June 1, 1996        !

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Proceedings

Proceedings will be published in Lecture Notes in Computer Science, 
Springer Verlag Heidelberg-New York. They will be available at the time 
of the conference.
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Visits

Visits to laboratories in Hamburg will be arranged for the day after the
conference (IMDM, Philips Research, Dept. of Computer Science)
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Location

University of Hamburg, main building, in walking distance to the city which
surrounds the beautiful Alster lake.
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Previous Conferences

1990
     Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
     Proceedings: First Conference on Visualization in Biomedical Computing,
     IEEE Computer Society Press, 1990
1992
     University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC
     Proceedings: Visualization in Biomedical Computing II,
     Proc. SPIE 1808, 1992

1994
     Mayo Foundation, Rochester, MN
     Proceedings: Visualization in Biomedical Computing 1994,
     Proc. SPIE 2359, 1994

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Conference Committee

Chairman

Karl Heinz Hoehne, University of Hamburg

Program Committee

Ron Kikinis (Chair), Harvard Medical School

Nicholas Ayache, INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis
Jean Louis Coatrieux, University of Rennes
Takeyoshi Dohi, University of Tokyo
James Duncan, Yale University
Alan C. Evans, Montreal Neurological Inst.
Norberto Ezquerra, Georgia Tech, Atlanta
Henry Fuchs, UNC, Chapel Hill
Guido Gerig, ETH Zuerich
Eric Grimson, MIT, Cambridge
David Hawkes, Guy's Hospital London
Arie Kaufman, State University of New York
Andres Kriete, University of Giessen
Hal Kundel, University of Pennsylvania
Heinz Lemke, Free University of Berlin
David Levin, University of Chicago
Heinrich Mueller, University of Dortmund
Chuck Pelizzari, University of Chicago
Stephen Pizer, UNC, Chapel Hill
Richard Robb, Mayo Foundation / Clinic
Siegfried Stiehl, University of Hamburg
Paul Suetens, University of Leuven
Andrew Todd-Pokropek, University College London
Jun-Ichiro Toriwaki, Nagoya University
Michael Vannier, Washington University, St Louis
Max Viergever, Utrecht University

Coordinators

Bernhard Pflesser, Thomas Schiemann, Rainer Schubert, IMDM
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Supporting Organisations

University of Hamburg
The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE)
German Society of Computer Science (GI)
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Submissions and Inquiries to

Institute of Mathematics and Computer Science in Medicine (IMDM)
Department of Computer Science in Medicine
Pav. 70
University Hospital Eppendorf
Martinistrasse 52
D-20246 Hamburg
Germany

Phone : +49-40-4717 3652

Fax   : +49-40-4717 4882

E-mail: vbc96@uke.uni-hamburg.de

For latest news consult the following www page:


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             http://www.uni-hamburg.de/~medizin/vbc96
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We have had problems with our newsfeed here at SASA, which have 
meant that articles posted by me or robert Burns to this group have 
appeared on our newsreader but haven't been propagated outside SASA! 
at the same time, posts submitted my e-mail have not appeared on our 
newsreader.  Apologies for the problems this has caused - it has meant 
that we haven't been able to do our discussion leader jobs effectively.

Hopefully, the problems have now been sorted out and normal service will 
be resumed.
 
Kevin O'Donnell
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh
Scotland                                           

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mailit


Robert Burns

Monoclonal Antibody Unit
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency
East Craigs
Edinburgh
Scotland

burns@sasa.gov.uk




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netscape


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Oct 19 23:00:00 1995
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PLEASE ADD MY DETAILS TO BIONET NEWS GROUP


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Oct 22 22:00:00 1995
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Can you give me some precision about primula obconica and dpc. I am 
19 and i am loosing my hair. Minoxidil does nothing on me.
Can the treatment you tell me help me?
Do you know the new treatment VIVISCAL which comes from finland? It's 
a oral medicament done whith fiches!
Please answer me!
Thanks.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 24 22:00:00 1995
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From: bgold@itsa.ucsf.edu (Bert Gold)
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics,bionet.diagnostics.prenatal
Subject: ICSI and genetic abnormalities
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[ Article crossposted from bionet.general ]
[ Author was Dr Jim Cummins ]
[ Posted on 22 Oct 1995 21:14:42 -0700 ]

At the recent Andrology in the Nineties conference in Belium there was much
debate about the use of intracytoplasmic sperm injection (ICSI) from
oligoasthenozoospermic (OAT) men and genetic risk.  Peter Vogt reported on
the increased incidence of Y-chromosome delections and sex chromosome
anomalies in such men, and there seems to be evidence of a general increase
of paternally inherited anomalies in offspring (see also the somewhat
restricted series for women of advanced maternal age reported by In't Veld
in Lancet 346: 773, 1995).

While the excellent data from the Brussels group reported by Van
Steirteghem does not give rise to urgent concern,   Moosani et al (
Fertility & Sterility 1995 64(4):811-817)  in an analysis of sperm nuclei
by fluorescence in situ hybridization report a significant increase in the
frequency of disomy for chromosome I and XY disomy for infertile men.

The take-home message is that any AOT men and their partners seeking ICSI
for infertility should be given rigorous genetic counselling and advice
about the possible consequences, especially for male offspring.   Screening
for satellite deletions in the AZF region of the Y chromosome should be
mandatory IMHO.

In Belgium now 1% of all births arise from some form of assisted
reproductive technology, and this is likely to rise, according to Frank
Comhaire.   If we assume that the incidence of infertility is 10-15% and
that now nearly all cases can be "treated" by ICSI it is logical to assume
that a similar proportion of all births will result.  Even if only 10% of
OAT men carry a risk of genetic abormality this is still a highly
disturbing scenario for the next generation.  These conditions can *only*
be transmitted iatrogenically - unlike diabetes, for example, where couples
have the choice of reproducing or not reproducing.   With the incredible
acceleration of ICSI into the "run of the mill" IVF clinics without access
to intensive genetic and paediatric services the long-term implications for
health care costs makes the low-birthweight problems of conventional IVF
babies look almost trivial.

Alarm bells are ringing, I'm afraid.


Jim "Spermatology rules o~ o~ o~ o~" Cummins

Associate Professor in Veterinary Anatomy
Murdoch University, Western Australia 6150
Tel +61-9-360 2668, Fax +61-9-310 4144
E mail <cummins@possum.murdoch.edu.au>
URL <http://Numbat.murdoch.edu.au/spermatology/spermhp.html>
The Penultimate Law "All general statements are false."








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From: Erwan.LeRoy@cipcinsa.insa-lyon.fr (Erwan Le Roy)
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: ALOPECY VIVISCAL
Date: 25 Oct 1995 11:55:26 GMT
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Does anybody know this new treatment for alopecy made 
with fishes. It comes from finland.
Tell me what you know about it and where can i find 
it.


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From: mattwoolsey@ti.com (Matthew Woolsey)
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I am looking for sources for EEG sensors and amplifier/filters.
Need company names, phone numbers, and any 
recommendations or preferences.  Since this is experimental,
I need relatively cheap amplifiers/filters that can still be hooked
up to a live subject.

Thanks in advance,
Matthew Woolsey
mattwoolsey@ti.com



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By "live", I take it you mean human?  Go to the Medical Device Register 
and find out who's registered with the FDA.  

Find a device that looks too good to be true!?  Ask them if they've filed 
an intent to market, 510(k).  Better yet, call the FDA (check gov't. 
section of your local telephone book) and ask if the company has a 510(k) 
number for the device.

Then ask if it's been tested to UL544; the 2500 vac isolation barrier and 
4000 vac withstand tests usually weed out the tinkerers.

In spite of what the salesperson tells you, battery operated or optically 
isolated devices are not inherently safe.  They still have to pass the 
same tests for human use.

Make sure you inform your legal counsel in advance if you choose to 
utilize "bargain" devices.

Pete Seaba
U. of Iowa

On Wed, 25 Oct 1995, Matthew Woolsey wrote:

> I am looking for sources for EEG sensors and amplifier/filters.
> Need company names, phone numbers, and any 
> recommendations or preferences.  Since this is experimental,
> I need relatively cheap amplifiers/filters that can still be hooked
> up to a live subject.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Matthew Woolsey
> mattwoolsey@ti.com
> 
> 
> 
> 

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Oct 26 22:00:00 1995
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From: p.french@ARNIE.CFI.UNSW.EDU.AU (Peter French)
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Subject: (none)
Date: 26 Oct 1995 18:47:22 -0700
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unsubscribe - I've had enough bald men and their problems

Peter French, Centre for Immunology, St Vincent's Hospital, Sydney.
President, ANZSCBI

phone 61-2-361-2388
fax 61-2-361-2391
mobile 018-412-961



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From: p.french@ARNIE.CFI.UNSW.EDU.AU (Peter French)
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Subject: Re: ALOPECY VIVISCAL
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Erwan Le Roy wrote:
>Does anybody know this new treatment for alopecy made 
>with fishes. It comes from finland.
>Tell me what you know about it and where can i find 
>it.

Yes - you rub a trout on your head every day.

Peter French, Centre for Immunology, St Vincent's Hospital, Sydney.
President, ANZSCBI

phone 61-2-361-2388
fax 61-2-361-2391
mobile 018-412-961



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Subject: Re: MINOXIDIL
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In article <199510161044.DAA27776@net.bio.net>, ESA009@ED.SAC.AC.UKA says...
[..]
>
>There is no certain cure for alopecia;  some people respond to 
>certain treatments better than others, others do not respond at all, 
>others get spontaneously better.  Perhaps before rushing out to buy 
>minoxidil you should try and get your hands on a drug called 
[..]
There is discussion of all of this on alt.baldspot.

Over and out.


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Oct 29 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!sasa.gov.uk!odonnell
From: odonnell@sasa.gov.uk ("Kevin O'Donnell")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Alopecia, slap-heads and diagnostics
Date: 30 Oct 1995 03:09:17 -0800
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I have every sympathy with people affected by alopecia , a distressing =
medical condition in which all body hair is lost. However, I don't believ=
e that bionet.diagnostics is the fruitful arena in which this subject =
could be raised. More, and perhaps medically qualified, advice may be =
found in the sci.med newsgroups.  

Ordinary male-pattern baldness, while an issue for some of us, is a more =
appropriate topic for bionet.general or sci.bio.misc (though may I just =
recommend to fellow slap-heads that blue, menthol-containing shampoo from=
 the Body Shop:-)).

What would be appropriate here is more on-charter posts.   More and more =
people are subscribing to bionet.diagnostics all the time and it is avail=
able as a usenet group, yet there has been no corresponding increase in =
posts.

May I make a suggestion to go some way towards stimulating discussion? =
If you are publishing a diagnostics-related paper, why not post the abstr=
act here, for others to read and comment on? 

Other suggestions for improving the level of discussion in the group woul=
d be most welcome.





Dr Kevin O'Donnell		     "Work as if you were in the early days
Diagnostics and Molecular Biology         of a better nation"  Alasdair =
Gray
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh                         		odonnell@sasa.gov.uk          
      


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Oct 30 22:00:00 1995
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From: bss3pk@surrey.ac.uk (Peter Kwasowski)
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Subject: Test: please ignore
Date: 31 Oct 1995 17:15:42 -0000
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... but working-up to an actual post real soon.




From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 31 22:00:00 1995
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From: 100416.735@COMPUSERVE.COM (The Diagnostics Club)
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Kevin O'Donnells quest
Date: 1 Nov 1995 01:06:19 -0800
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I agree with Kevin's comments about the lack of postings. From our own viewpoint
there is disappointment in the few notices from those organizations at the sharp
end.  We know of  several 'sharp end' organisations that monitor this newsgroup
(they are also members of The Diagnostics Club), but there must be many more out
there that have something to publically offer, or something they need.  Wearing
our own hat we monitor the newsgroup so as to advise our members of
opportunities for collaboration, and to advise the newsgroup of happenings of
mutual interest to the newsgroup.
To the benefit of the total diagnostics community there must be more interaction
between researchers and those that apply the theories to the needs and
practicalities of the commercial world. This newsgroup would seem to be an ideal
vehicle for that action, and The Diagnostics Club is here to aid the transfer
and collaboration.

Regards
Tony Owen
Diagnostics Club Administrator
tel: +44 1908 647417, fax: +44 1908 271612


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 31 22:00:00 1995
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From: odonnell@sasa.gov.uk ("Kevin O'Donnell")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Commerical posts etc.
Date: 1 Nov 1995 08:12:04 -0800
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Steve Firth wrote:
> 
> Some of my clients in the diagnostics
> industry only have mail access, which could help to explaing why the
> newsgroup is so quiet.
>
Remember that all of the bionet newsgroups are also available as e-mail =
 mailing lists. I agree though, that there's something clubby (for want =
of a better word)
 about a mailing list that seems to be lost with a newsgroup.
 
> I also believe that it is the restriction placed on commercial posts =
that
> keeps bionet.diagnostics so quiet. I don't wish to see advertising, =
but I
> would like to exchange general commercial information (looking for
> materials, requests for researchers to participate in assay development
> projects etc.) which I understand from a conversation with the
> bionet.general moderator is banned from all bionet groups.
>
Hmm. Now this is an interesting point. It remains to be seen if the stric=
t ban on commercial activities will continue once NSF funding for bionet =
stops (quite soon ISTR). In any event, I think we'd all agree that we =
don't want to be innundated with adverts for Dodgy Derek's Dialysis tubin=
g or whatever, but the other things described above look less undesirable=
 to me. 

Requests for people to take part in assay development have certainly appe=
ared here before, and as it can't be described as advertising I haven't =
seen it as a problem.   Exchanging commercial information? - it depends =
what you mean. I think that posts along the lines of 'What does anyone =
think of product X' are quite acceptable - as long as the post doesn't =
come from the makers of product X - though themakers of product X are =
welcome to respond to direct queries about their product.

Likewise (and this is where things do get a bit silly), it is acceptable =
for someone to post saying 'what type of dialysis tubing do people use?' =
and for someone else to reply saying 'Hey, Dodgy Derek's dialysis tubing =
is great - buy it' but not for the aforementioned Dodgy Derek himself =
 to respond saying 'Hey I make dialysis tubing - buy it, it's great'. 

I hope that this is now clear:-).

My own view is that the sort of things Steve mentions are acceptable, =
within the restrictions mentioned above. Further information is available=
 in the bionet/biosci FAQ (posted in bionet.announce or at http://www.bio=
.net).

Apologies to any Dereks who may read this list:-)

Kevin

Dr Kevin O'Donnell		     "Work as if you were in the early days
Diagnostics and Molecular Biology         of a better nation"  Alasdair =
Gray
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh                         		odonnell@sasa.gov.uk          
      


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 31 22:00:00 1995
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From: douglasm@SIAL.COM (Michael Douglas)
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Date: 1 Nov 1995 08:06:57 -0800
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It is crude but you need to know the number and average physical size of the 
chromosomes in question.  The can be related to the average physical size 
of a given yeast chromosome which are all very well defined according to 
size and DNA content.  

___________________________________________________________________________
Michael Douglas					   	  douglasm@sial.com
Sigma Diagnostics    --    545 South Ewing    --    St. Louis, MO 63103 USA
FAX: 314-531-2586 or 800-816-1603  Tele: 800-521-8956 or 314-771-5765 x4435

On 1 Nov 1995, Maria Eugenia Ordonez wrote:

> 
> How can I estimate the size of the genome of a plant having the
> kariotype?
> 
> 
> --
> 	Maria Eugenia Ordonez
> 	Centro Internacional de la Papa
> 	Casilla 17-21-1977-CEQ
> 	Quito, Ecuador
> 	Telf. +593-2-690362, Internet: ORDONEZ@cip.org.ec
> 
> 

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From: filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk (Steve Firth)
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: Kevin O'Donnells quest
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 15:14:03 +0000
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In article <951101085737_100416.735_BHG66-1@CompuServe.COM>,
100416.735@COMPUSERVE.COM (The Diagnostics Club) wrote:

>I agree with Kevin's comments about the lack of postings.

Me too.

I found that the diagnostics mail list was more informative and had a
higher volume of interest than bionet.diagnostics, perhaps the more
intimate nature of mail and the fact that it arrives rather than having to
be searched for makes the difference. Some of my clients in the diagnostics
industry only have mail access, which could help to explaing why the
newsgroup is so quiet.

I also believe that it is the restriction placed on commercial posts that
keeps bionet.diagnostics so quiet. I don't wish to see advertising, but I
would like to exchange general commercial information (looking for
materials, requests for researchers to participate in assay development
projects etc.) which I understand from a conversation with the
bionet.general moderator is banned from all bionet groups.

Perhaps there would be more interest in a diagnostics newsgroup within the
biz hierarchy?

-- 
Stephen Firth, Firth Consulting
Support Services for Biotechnology and Diagnostics
tel: +44 1962 771 313



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 31 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!MERCURY.UARK.EDU!DRHOADS
From: DRHOADS@MERCURY.UARK.EDU ("Douglas Rhoads")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: now you see it now you don't
Date: 1 Nov 1995 07:12:11 -0800
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> We're using RAPD-PCR to study diversity in epiphytic Pseudomonas 
> species.  We prepare the template DNA using Flowgen's Puregene kit, 
> which is basically an SDS cell lysis, ammonium acetate protein 
> precipitation, RNAse, isopropanol DNA precipitation, then dissolve in 
> water.  The resulting DNA is of good spectrophotometric quality. 
> 
> PCR works if we use freshly - prepared DNA, ie extracted from the 
> bacteria then run on the same day.  If we store the DNA at 4C for 
> only one week, then PCR fails, we get zilch in the lanes at any 
> concentration of template.  The DNA still looks the same after one week
> when run on a gel, ie there doesn't seem to be nuclease breakdown
> of the DNA.  Does anyone know what's happening to the DNA in storage?
> 
> Thanks
> Rob (still got my hair) Harling
> 
> Dr Rob Harling
> SAC (Scottish Agricultural College)/
>   University of Edinburgh
> West Mains Road
> Edinburgh EH9 3JG
> Scotland, UK
> tel: +44 (0)131 535 4000
> fax: +44 (0)131 667 2601
> e mail: esa009@ed.sac.ac.uk

This phenomenon has been observed repeatedly in a number of groups 
(consult RAPD@net.bio.net archives).  If I had to make predictions I 
would guess your DNA was fairly dilute (1-25 ng/ul).  Most people 
find DNA to be much more stable at higher concentrations and that 
dilute samples for RAPD should be stored frozen.  We have observed 
the same phenomenon with first strand cDNA preps for RT-PCR or 
ddRT-PCR.  But for these it is even worse.  They don't last more than 
a week even in the -20.  We have tried adding a little DTT to inhibit 
oxidation and that seems to help a little.
//========================================================\\
||Doug Rhoads              || Dept. of Biological Sciences||
||drhoads@mercury.uark.edu || 601 Science Engineering     ||
||drhoads@uafsysb.uark.edu || University of Arkansas      ||
||501-575-3251             || Fayetteville, AR 72701      ||
==========================================================||
||     My Dogma Just Got Run Over by Someone's Karma      ||
\\========================================================//

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 31 22:00:00 1995
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From: ordonez@CIP.ORG.EC (Maria Eugenia Ordonez)
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How can I estimate the size of the genome of a plant having the
kariotype?


--
	Maria Eugenia Ordonez
	Centro Internacional de la Papa
	Casilla 17-21-1977-CEQ
	Quito, Ecuador
	Telf. +593-2-690362, Internet: ORDONEZ@cip.org.ec

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 31 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!sasa.gov.uk!odonnell
From: odonnell@sasa.gov.uk ("Kevin O'Donnell")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: now you see it now you don't
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Rob Harling wrote:
> PCR works if we use freshly - prepared DNA, ie extracted from the 
> bacteria then run on the same day.  If we store the DNA at 4C for 
> only one week, then PCR fails, we get zilch in the lanes at any 
> concentration of template.  The DNA still looks the same after one week
> when run on a gel, ie there doesn't seem to be nuclease breakdown
> of the DNA.  Does anyone know what's happening to the DNA in storage?
> 
Rob,

Do you know if it still cuts with restriction endonucleases?

Kevin


Dr Kevin O'Donnell		     "Work as if you were in the early days
Diagnostics and Molecular Biology         of a better nation"  Alasdair Gray
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh                         		odonnell@sasa.gov.uk          
      


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Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: now you see it now you don't
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We're using RAPD-PCR to study diversity in epiphytic Pseudomonas 
species.  We prepare the template DNA using Flowgen's Puregene kit, 
which is basically an SDS cell lysis, ammonium acetate protein 
precipitation, RNAse, isopropanol DNA precipitation, then dissolve in 
water.  The resulting DNA is of good spectrophotometric quality. 

PCR works if we use freshly - prepared DNA, ie extracted from the 
bacteria then run on the same day.  If we store the DNA at 4C for 
only one week, then PCR fails, we get zilch in the lanes at any 
concentration of template.  The DNA still looks the same after one week
when run on a gel, ie there doesn't seem to be nuclease breakdown
of the DNA.  Does anyone know what's happening to the DNA in storage?

Thanks
Rob (still got my hair) Harling

Dr Rob Harling
SAC (Scottish Agricultural College)/
  University of Edinburgh
West Mains Road
Edinburgh EH9 3JG
Scotland, UK
tel: +44 (0)131 535 4000
fax: +44 (0)131 667 2601
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 31 22:00:00 1995
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From: "Applied Resources, Inc." <ari@winternet.com>
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Subject: Minneapolis, MN- Senior Scientist, assay design
Date: 1 Nov 1995 18:33:11 GMT
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I am a technical recruiter in Minneapolis, MN.  Our client is seeking to 
add a Senior Scientist (R&D) to it's staff.  Must have experience 
developing multiple products from concept to manufacture.  Key skills 
follow.

Ph. D.- minimum 5 years industrial experience in immunoassay design and 
development.
Five commercial products for which candidate has primary development 
responsibility.
Minimum 2 years developing assays on automated instrumentation. 

If your background meets or exceeds these minimum requirements, please 
respond to:

Steve Musch
Applied Resources
ari@winternet.com
Minneapolis, MN USA


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Oct 31 22:00:00 1995
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From: Michele.Hales@UAlberta.CA (Michele Hales)
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Subject: HSV with RT-PCR
Date: 1 Nov 1995 12:11:11 -0800
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I am posting a query for a friend of mine:

When looking for HSV (A DNA virus) she has read published articles saying to
run RT-PCR.  Once you get the PCR product are there any other
protocols/procedures that need to be done?

I appreciate any information you may be able to pass on.

Thanks in advance,
Michele Hales
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