From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 01 22:00:00 1995
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From: odonnell@sasa.gov.uk ("Kevin O'Donnell")
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Subject: Microtitre plate PCR
Date: 2 Nov 1995 03:12:22 -0800
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We are looking at transferring some of our PCR assays to a microtitre =
plate format. Does anyone have any experience of this that they can share=
?

For example, is this method less robust than using microtubes? What sort =
of throughput gains did you achieve? What sort of microtitre plate/therma=
l cycler would you recommend - or not, as the case may be.  All tips/hint=
s about how to make a succesful tranfer would be appreciated.

Kevin
 

Dr Kevin O'Donnell		     "Work as if you were in the early days
Diagnostics and Molecular Biology         of a better nation"  Alasdair =
Gray
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh                         		odonnell@sasa.gov.uk          
      


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 01 22:00:00 1995
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Subject: Serological Controls in Test Kits
Date: 2 Nov 1995 11:07:35 -0800
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To fellow Diagnostics Newsgroup members:

I am a scientist at a small diagnostics company involved in developing rapid,
easy-to-use tests designed to be used primarily in doctors' clinics or
veterinary practices for diagnosing a wide variety of infectious diseases, as
well as for screening donated blood for infectious agents.  Our kits come
with ready-to-use reagents in dropper bottles and have good stability for
12-18 months at 4 degrees C and 3-6 months at room temperature.  We would
like to be able to offer human serological controls for some of the test
kits, preferably with the same desirable stability characteristics.

Perhaps some of you would have some information or suggestions regarding the
following questions we have:

1. What is the best way to inactivate viruses without appreciably affecting
the antibody and/or antigen activity?

2. How do we stabilize the controls so that we can provide them in the
ready-to-use liquid format?

3. Can the controls be diluted samples?

4. Are there any universal regulations or guidelines regarding serological
controls?

We appreciate any help that is offered.  : )

Mark Hughes
Empyrean Diagnostics Inc.
mhughes77@aol.com


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From: Richard Schifreen <rschifre@access1.digex.net>
Newsgroups: bionet.cellbio,bionet.diagnostics,bionet.immunology
Subject: Risk Factor
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 12:07:43 -0500
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A colleague is trying to follow-up on a report he heard that a lipid 
related risk marker has been documented that correlates closely with 
lifespan. Can anyone suggest a source or reference?  The only thing that 
comes to mind is the relationship of apolipoproteins to artherosclerotic 
disease and now Alzheimers.

Rich Schifreen          phone: 301-840-4163
Life Technologies       fax:   301-670-1493
   E-Mail: rschifre@access.digex.net



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 01 22:00:00 1995
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From: r.epping@qut.edu.au (Ron Epping)
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: A New centre for Diagnostic Technologies
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Forwarded from the biz-biotech list, I thought that this might be of inte=
rest
 to this one. Anyone have any more information about this organisation?

<start of forwarded message>

The newly established Australian National Centre for Diagnostic Technolog=
ies
(CDT) is currently recruiting highly-motivated scientists and students =
to
participate in research and development for the next generation of DNA-ba=
sed
human diagnostics for both inherited and acquired (cancer) genetic diseas=
es
and infectious diseases. Positions (Ref. No. and closing dates for 1995) =
are
available for:

Senior Research Fellows (95525 November 21)
Research Fellows (95526 November 21)
Postdoctoral Fellows (95527 November 21)
Senior Research Assistants (95528 November 6)
Research Assistants (95528 November 6)
PhD Students ( October 31)
Honours Students (31 October)

The CDT is a new Commonwealth funded Cooperative Research Centre bringing
together the diagnostic and molecular biological expertise and innovation=
 of
the Queensland University of Technology (Brisbane), The CSIRO Division =
of
Biomolecular Engineering (Melbourne), LaTrobe University Schools of
Biochemistry and Electrical Engineering (Melbourne), The Kolling Institut=
e
of Medical Research (Sydney) and four of Australia's leading biotechnolog=
y
and diagnostic development companies: Agen Biomedical Ltd (Brisbane),
Bioclone Australia Pty Ltd (Sydney), PanBio (Brisbane) and Silenus
Laboratories Ltd (Melbourne).

The positions described above are available at the Queensland University =
of
Technology in sunny Brisbane, Queensland.  All enquiries for further deta=
ils
on research positions should be directed to the Secretary Ms Patricia =
Dunn
(E-mail t.dunn@qut.edu.au) and prospective Hons and PhD students should
contact Prof. James Dale (E-mail j.dale@qut.edu.au). Prospective PhD
students must contact Ms Michelle Foley (E-mail m.foley@qut.edu.au) to
obtain application forms for APA or QUTPRA scolarships - note the deadlin=
e
is 31 October, 1995.

Research applications should quote the relevant reference number and incl=
ude
evidence of academic qualifications and experience plus the names, postal
and E-mail addresses, telephone and facsimile numbers of three referees.
Applicants applying for more than one position must submit separate
applications. Applications should reach the Human Resources Director, =
QUT,
Locked Bag No 2, Red Hill 4059 Brisbane Australia by the nominated closin=
g date.
*************************************************************************=
******
Ronald J. Epping
BSc(ANU); PhD Biochemistry(ANU)
Lecturer in Biochemistry/Molecular Biology
Education Program Leader, CRC for Diagnostic Technologies

SnailMail:     School of Life Science, Queensland University of Technolog=
y.
                       G.P.O. Box 2434 Brisbane Queensland AUSTRALIA 4001
Telephone:  + 61 7 3864 2576
Facsimile:    + 61 7 3864 1534
E-mail:           r.epping@qut.edu.au
*************************************************************************=
******




*************************************************************************=
***
Ronald J. Epping
BSc(ANU); PhD Biochemistry(ANU)
Lecturer in Biochemistry/Molecular Biology
Education Program Leader, CRC for Diagnostic Technologies (CDT)

SnailMail:     School of Life Science, Queensland University of Technolog=
y.
                       G.P.O. Box 2434 Brisbane Queensland AUSTRALIA 4001
Telephone:  + 61 7 3864 2576
Facsimile:    + 61 7 3864 1534
E-mail:           r.epping@qut.edu.au
*************************************************************************=
***



<end of forwarded message>



Dr Kevin O'Donnell		     "Work as if you were in the early days
Diagnostics and Molecular Biology         of a better nation"  Alasdair =
Gray
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh                         		odonnell@sasa.gov.uk          
      


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 01 22:00:00 1995
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From: mgk2r@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU ("Michael G. Kurilla")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: Serological Controls in Test Kits
Date: 2 Nov 1995 14:27:33 -0800
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On Nov 2,  2:14pm, MHughes77@aol.com wrote:
> Subject: Serological Controls in Test Kits
> To fellow Diagnostics Newsgroup members:
> 
> I am a scientist at a small diagnostics company involved in developing
rapid,
> easy-to-use tests designed to be used primarily in doctors' clinics or
> veterinary practices for diagnosing a wide variety of infectious diseases,
as
> well as for screening donated blood for infectious agents.  Our kits come
> with ready-to-use reagents in dropper bottles and have good stability for
> 12-18 months at 4 degrees C and 3-6 months at room temperature.  We would
> like to be able to offer human serological controls for some of the test
> kits, preferably with the same desirable stability characteristics.
> 
> Perhaps some of you would have some information or suggestions regarding
the
> following questions we have:
> 
> 1. What is the best way to inactivate viruses without appreciably affecting
> the antibody and/or antigen activity?

There are probably many ways to do this. Psoralen is one method that is
fairly specific for nucleic acid and protein sparing. At least tests with
virally infected cells have not shown loss of antibody reactivity or T cell
proliferative changes after treamtent.





From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 01 22:00:00 1995
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From: schneip@interactive.net (Paul Schneider)
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics,bionet.diagnostics.prenatal,bit.med.mxdiag-l,sci.engr.biomed,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
Subject: CE Mark for Medical Devices Sold in Europe
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Could one of the UK readers of these newsgroups provide me by e-mail
or posting to these newsgroups a copy of the Guidance Notes For
Manufacturers seking to comply with the EC Directive for Medical
Devices CE Mark Status issued by the Medical Device Agency. One of my
clients has written to the agency at it's Russell Square, London
address requesting the item and has received no reply to date. I
realize that it may yet arrive, but knowing the red tape involved and
the liklihood that it went by surface mail, I decided to try this
newsgroup route. If you send me the document by e-mail please post
that fact to these newsgroups so that my mail box doesn't get
inundated with replys ;-).

Thanks in advance for any help. BTW does the MCA have a presence on
the Intenet? What about the EC divisions or committees involved with
Medical Directives?

Paul Schneider


Paul Schneider, Ph.D., RAC    |Paul Schneider,Ph.D.& Associates
schneip@interactive.net       |     Regulatory Consultants
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548 Stevens Avenue            |      Health Care Industry
Ridgewood, NJ 07450           |Tel:201-652-0706 FAX:201-652-1289





From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 02 22:00:00 1995
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From: mbdj@SCRI.SARI.AC.UK (D Jones)
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Subject: Re: Microtitre plate PCR
Date: 3 Nov 1995 01:43:15 -0800
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> We are looking at transferring some of our PCR assays to a microtitre =
> plate format. Does anyone have any experience of this that they can share=
> ?
> 
> For example, is this method less robust than using microtubes? What sort =
> of throughput gains did you achieve? What sort of microtitre plate/therma=
> l cycler would you recommend - or not, as the case may be.  All tips/hint=
> s about how to make a succesful tranfer would be appreciated.
> 
> Kevin
>  
 
	We've played around with this idea as well. From talking to
various people we decided that the best solution was microtubes in a 96
well format (from Advanced Biotechnologies) that could be sealed with a
rubber mat in the Perkin Elmer 9600. This works very well and there is
no need to change anything. 
By all accounts the problem with microtitre plates is getting a uniform
temperature across the plate. From a discussion I had with an Anachem
rep once he seemed to think that there were people working on better
plastic formulations that would solve this problem. If you are looking
for particularly high through puts Anachems 384 well Q plates would be
ideal, but only if they improve the plastic. If I were to do this sort
of thing alot I would also purchase a 0.5 - 10 ul multichannel pipette,
it would make life just that little more bearable. 

D.A.C. Jones
SCRI
Virology
Dundee
DD2 5DA
Tel 01382 562731
email mbdj@scri.sari.ac.uk

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From: b3748@cts.com (Bryan Kiehl)
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Subject: Re: Risk Factor
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Richard Schifreen <rschifre@access1.digex.net> wrote:

>A colleague is trying to follow-up on a report he heard that a lipid 
>related risk marker has been documented that correlates closely with 
>lifespan. Can anyone suggest a source or reference?  The only thing that 
>comes to mind is the relationship of apolipoproteins to artherosclerotic 
>disease and now Alzheimers.

>Rich Schifreen          phone: 301-840-4163
>Life Technologies       fax:   301-670-1493
>   E-Mail: rschifre@access.digex.net

You've got it. The relationships was recently discussed in the Wall
Street Journal.




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Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics,bionet.diagnostics.prenatal,bit.med.mxdiag-l,sci.engr.biomed,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
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schneip@interactive.net (Paul Schneider) wrote:

>Could one of the UK readers of these newsgroups provide me by e-mail
>or posting to these newsgroups a copy of the Guidance Notes For
>Manufacturers seking to comply with the EC Directive for Medical
>Devices CE Mark Status issued by the Medical Device Agency. One of my
>clients has written to the agency at it's Russell Square, London
>address requesting the item and has received no reply to date. I
>realize that it may yet arrive, but knowing the red tape involved and
>the liklihood that it went by surface mail, I decided to try this
>newsgroup route. If you send me the document by e-mail please post
>that fact to these newsgroups so that my mail box doesn't get
>inundated with replys ;-).

>Thanks in advance for any help. BTW does the MCA have a presence on
>the Intenet? What about the EC divisions or committees involved with
>Medical Directives?

>Paul Schneider


>Paul Schneider, Ph.D., RAC    |Paul Schneider,Ph.D.& Associates
>schneip@interactive.net       |     Regulatory Consultants
>74604.2211@compuserve.com     |    Serving the Needs of the
>548 Stevens Avenue            |      Health Care Industry
>Ridgewood, NJ 07450           |Tel:201-652-0706 FAX:201-652-1289

This is an interesting topic. I work in a company that makes in vitro
diagnostic devices. It is my understanding that we do not need to be
ISO certified to obtain a CE mark, but do need to register. Can anyone
discuss this topic for diagnostic lab tests?


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 02 22:00:00 1995
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From: 100023.3435@COMPUSERVE.COM ("J. H. MACKENZIE")
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Subject: Re: CE Mark for Medical Devices Sold in Europe
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In reply to messages regarding CE Mark for Medical Devices Sold in Europe:

1. Guidance documents on the medical device directive and CE marking are
available but run into 100 + pages and are not suitable for e-mail.

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What about new FDA GMP Regulations?
How will the EU Directives Affect you?
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 02 22:00:00 1995
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From: 100273.165@COMPUSERVE.COM (Philip Shaw)
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Thierry Leclipteux asked:

I ave problem in keeping stable monoclonal antibody-peroxidase conjugate
at 4 0C. Is there any chemicals able to protect their activity.  I do not
want to keep them at -20 0C in glycerol.
Thanks

Try calling Dr Tim Gibson, ULIS Biotechnology, Leeds, UK. telephone
+44-113-233-2599 they specialise in this type of problem.


Philip Shaw
Biodot Ltd


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Subject: Buffer for HRP-Streptavidin
Date: 3 Nov 1995 15:49:32 GMT
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Can anyone recommend a storage and dilution buffer for Horse Radish Peroxiase-Streptavidin conjugate? I would prefer to store 
the product in a liquid form at 4C if possible.

Jim Wick

E-mail:		wick@cris.com		
Phone:		414-871-7199
FAX:		414-871-1273
Snail Mail:	5520 W. Burleigh St.
		Milwaukee, WI 53210

"Don't precipitate more than you can resuspend"




From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 02 22:00:00 1995
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From: odonnell@sasa.gov.uk ("Kevin O'Donnell")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: CE Mark for Medical Devices Sold in Europe
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> 
> Could one of the UK readers of these newsgroups provide me by e-mail
> or posting to these newsgroups a copy of the Guidance Notes For
> Manufacturers seking to comply with the EC Directive for Medical
> Devices CE Mark Status issued by the Medical Device Agency. One of my
> clients has written to the agency at it's Russell Square, London
> address requesting the item and has received no reply to date. 

> Thanks in advance for any help. BTW does the MCA have a presence on
> the Intenet? What about the EC divisions or committees involved with
> Medical Directives?
> 
Paul, 

I can't help with your specific query but I can tell you that there is =
a lot of EC
 information available on the internet. There is a very good clearing =
house at:

http://www.tep.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de/~anzinger/en/euro-govt.html

This site not only has links for the various Euro-bodies but also links =
for 
all of the individual European state's government agencies.

Hope this is helpful,

Kevin

> 
> 



Dr Kevin O'Donnell		   "Work as if you were in the early days
Diagnostics and Molecular Biology       of a better nation"  Alasdair =
Gray
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh                         		odonnell@sasa.gov.uk          
      



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Subject: Immunoconjugate stabilizer
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I ave problem in keeping stable monoclonal antibody-peroxidase conjugate
at 4 °C. Is there any chemicals able to protect their activity.  I do not
want to keep them at -20 °C in glycerol.
Thanks

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 02 22:00:00 1995
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From: Thierry Leclipteux <thierry@stat.fmv.ulg.ac.be>
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In article <951102140530_96176626@emout04.mail.aol.com> ,
MHughes77@aol.com writes:

I know several way to inactivate viruses.  But probably those giving best
results to protect the antigenicity would be  : ß-propiolactone and UV
radiation.  I have to mention that Aujesky virus is not inactivate by
ß-propioloactone but well by UV.  It seems that there is no fixed recipe.
 So do some trials.

I guess that (for human, field at least) control sera must be proven free
of pathogens.  I have to check in my guidelines to know what about it.

As I am also working (part-time) for a diagnostic company in the vet
field, I would like to know if there is any components to stabilize
peroxidase conjugate in a liquid form in order to keep them either
concentrated or ready-to-use in the kits.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 02 22:00:00 1995
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This is a new "miniFAQ" designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

	Contents:
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	1) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	2) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	3) How to access BIOSCI/bionet newsgroup archives.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


1) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups)
and mailing lists.  The same postings are distributed on both media
(except for a small number of mailing-list-only groups at
net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it is becoming a despicable practice on
the Internet (by a few people out to make a fast buck) to do automated
mass postings to thousands of newsgroups and mailing lists.  These
attempts to grab free advertising are refered to as "spams" in the
usual, somewhat boneheaded, net terminology.  USENET is more
susceptible to this practice, and many spams originate on the USENET
groups and then are passed on to the mailing lists.  However, spammers
also get lists of mailing addresses and hit these too, so neither
medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the newsgroups from about 95% of the spams that
are being sent to date.  This means that someone has to take the time
to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up software
here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an address at
net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.  This
takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass it
on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings.
Unfortunately there are easy ways for determined spammers to override
the moderation mechanism.  We are working on new systems to provide
access to our newsgroups over the WWW.  These should be available
soon, probably November 1995, and will allow you to use your Web
browser to look at the news postings.  While this will not stop
spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you yet
another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of your
personal mail files.


2) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
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Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
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Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
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A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
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   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
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Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
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To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
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Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
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3) How to access BIOSCI/bionet newsgroup archives.
--------------------------------------------------
Back postings of all BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups can be found on the
World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/.  There are several
searchable newsgroup indices at this site.  E-mail users can search
the BIOSCI archives by using our waismail e-mail server.  For
instructions send the message

help

to waismail@net.bio.net.  Leave the Subject: line blank (anything
entered on the Subject: line is ignored).


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
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reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
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Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
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resources to edit old forms.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 02 22:00:00 1995
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From: "David S. Dodd" <ddodd@virtualpres.com>
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Dear Paul,
          Please contact O'Logic,who should be able to help you with 
your enquiries,at:

           http://www.Ologic.com/
                Regards J.Dodd pp.David Dodd[Webmaster,O'Logic}



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Fri Nov 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: tyr-2@bones.biochem.ualberta.ca (Karl Fischer)
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: HSV with RT-PCR
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 00:11:34 +0100
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In article <199511012009.NAA06359@bock.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
Michele.Hales@UAlberta.CA (Michele Hales) wrote:

> When looking for HSV (A DNA virus) she has read published articles saying to
> run RT-PCR.  Once you get the PCR product are there any other
> protocols/procedures that need to be done?

Unless the source of the specimen contained cells which may harbour viral
RNA, it seems to me that the RT phase (and the specimen processing leading
to it) would be unecessary for detection of the virus by PCR.

Karl

-- 
Karl Fischer
tyr-2@bones.biochem.ualberta.ca



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Fri Nov 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: pohyam@TECHNET.SG (Lim Pohyam)
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: precipitation problems
Date: 4 Nov 1995 08:30:10 -0800
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My bacterial recombinant proteins precipitates upon long storage at -20C. 
Upon thawing from freezer, I detected strands of precipitates. There is 
difficulty to re-suspend these strands. As a result, when I set up my 
microtiter plates, the activity is decreased. I sometimes encounter as much 
as 15-20% drop in protein concentration. This is creating havoc in my 
assays. I would like to receive feedback on how to remove this problem. what 
can I do? I keep losing my protein everytime I thawed them from the freezer! 


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Fri Nov 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: mgk2r@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU ("Michael G. Kurilla")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: precipitation problems
Date: 4 Nov 1995 10:13:10 -0800
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On Nov 4, 11:33am, Lim Pohyam wrote:
> Subject: precipitation problems
> My bacterial recombinant proteins precipitates upon long storage at -20C. 
> Upon thawing from freezer, I detected strands of precipitates. There is 
> difficulty to re-suspend these strands. As a result, when I set up my 
> microtiter plates, the activity is decreased. I sometimes encounter as much
> as 15-20% drop in protein concentration. This is creating havoc in my 
> assays. I would like to receive feedback on how to remove this problem.   
> what can I do? I keep losing my protein everytime I thawed them from the  
> freezer! 
> 
> 
> -- End of excerpt from Lim Pohyam <pohyam@technet.sg>

Freezing at -20C does not in reality always freeze. Anything dissolved in
water will depress its freezing point. What can happen with proteins,
particularly concentrated solutions is that as the solution freezes, the
protein will tend to migrate to the remaining fluid regions and gradually
become superconcentrated. Salts and buffers will also concentrate and the
salt conditions or the pH can be drastically altered. 

In fact, at -20C, the proteins are not really frozen, rather there is a thin
shell of fluid with concentrated salts and buffers. This can promote
denturation or degradation of the protein over long term storage.

Several options would include
     1)   freezing and storage at -70C
     2)   quick freezing in LN2 followed by -20C storage
     3)   adding glycerol to prevent freezing completely and storing at -20C

Mike Kurilla

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 05 22:00:00 1995
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From: angus@intergen.demon.co.uk (Angus Cameron)
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Subject: test
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 05 22:00:00 1995
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From: odonnell@sasa.gov.uk ("Kevin O'Donnell")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Advertising on bionet
Date: 6 Nov 1995 03:44:44 -0800
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Can I make the point (again) that direct advertising of services, whether=
 those of MCS, O'Logic or someone supplying 'correction for naughty boys'=
 is not allowed on bionet, because of the nature of it's funding. Consult=
 the FAQ at http://www.bio.net if you are in any doubts.

Kevin

Dr Kevin O'Donnell		   "Work as if you were in the early days
Diagnostics and Molecular Biology       of a better nation"  Alasdair =
Gray
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency    
Edinburgh                         		odonnell@sasa.gov.uk          
      



From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 05 22:00:00 1995
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From: root@mibi03.meb.uni-bonn.de (SuperUser)
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Subject: Q: Antiserum against C. difficile toxin commercially available?
Date: 05 Nov 1995 14:05:07 GMT
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Dear fellow netters,

we have been using an antiserum to C. sordellii which showed
cross-reactivity against the C. difficile toxin in a test procedure
aimed at the detection of the latter organism's toxin. Unluckily,
the product has been canceled by our former supplier, and we
are running out of stock. I'd very much appreciate a hint on 
a possible source of the kind of antiserum needed for the assay...

Regards,

Ernst
---
ernst.molitor@uni-bonn.de

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 05 22:00:00 1995
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From: angus@intergen.demon.co.uk (Angus Cameron)
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Subject: A key sales/management position exists in Europe
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Main US manufacturer of enabling raw materials for the diagnostic and biopharm 
industries is looking for a senior sales manager to develop their business in 
German speaking Europe.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 05 22:00:00 1995
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 05 22:00:00 1995
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> Date:          Sun, 05 Nov 95 01:47:35
> From:          <pohyam@technet.sg>
> Subject:       precipitation problems
> To:            mx%"diagnost@net.bio.net"
> Cc:            

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> From: Lim Pohyam <pohyam@technet.sg>
> Subject: precipitation problems
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> My bacterial recombinant proteins precipitates upon long storage at -20C. 
> Upon thawing from freezer, I detected strands of precipitates. There is 
> difficulty to re-suspend these strands. As a result, when I set up my 
> microtiter plates, the activity is decreased. I sometimes encounter as much 
> as 15-20% drop in protein concentration. This is creating havoc in my 
> assays. I would like to receive feedback on how to remove this problem. what 
> can I do? I keep losing my protein everytime I thawed them from the freezer! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Have you tried freeze-drying your proteins and redissolving from these?

Dr Rob Harling
SAC (Scottish Agricultural College)/
  University of Edinburgh
West Mains Road
Edinburgh EH9 3JG
Scotland, UK
tel: +44 (0)131 535 4000
fax: +44 (0)131 667 2601
e mail: esa009@ed.sac.ac.uk


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 05 22:00:00 1995
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From: JL@BORG.EVMS.EDU ("Janos Luka, Ph.D.")
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Subject: proficiency testing
Date: 6 Nov 1995 11:49:43 -0800
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We are doing PCR testing for the following viruses: HSV-1, HSV-2, 
VZV, EBV, CMV, HHV-6, HIV (DNA and RNA), HCV. I would be interested 
to get contact with laboratories with similar PCR panels to exchange 
samples for proficiency testing. Anybody interested, please contact 
me by e-mail or phone.

Janos Luka, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Pathology
EVMS, Norfolk, VA USA
e-mail: JL@BORG.EVMS.EDU
phone: (804) 446-7917

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 06 22:00:00 1995
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From: Gabriel Landini <G.Landini@bham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: NEW BOOK: FUTURE HEALTH
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 10:17:39 -0800
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New book!
 
Pickover, C. (1995) FUTURE HEALTH, Computers and Medicine in the
Twenty-First Century.  St. Martin's Press:  New York.
ISBN 0-312-12602-6.
 
This collection considers the tremendous effects that computers will
have on medicine and medical service in the next century.  The book also
gives a sampling of state-of-the-art application of computers in
medicine.  The chapters describe:
 
o futuristic operating rooms
o the challenges of future medical schools in preparing 21st-century
  physicians
o futuristic fractal models in pathology
o the use of new medical imaging technologies
o the use of electronic gophers to obtain medical information
o digital dentistry
o the use of artificial intelligence in medical diagnosis
o computer conferencing for medical consulting
o bloodless robotic surgery
o making solid models from medical images
o futuristic examinations rooms
and much more....

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 06 22:00:00 1995
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From: ransome@sasa.gov.uk (Karl Ransome)
Subject: Re: Problem with news from SASA - please respond
Organization: Scottish Agricultural Science Agency
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:42:38 GMT
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In article <DHo3JD.IDL@sasa.gov.uk>, ransome@sasa.gov.uk (Karl Ransome) says:
>
>Some of my users are reporting that their news articles are not
>being posted to this newsgroup. 

Thank you so much everybody for replying to my message so promptly
which I posted this morning. This will help us to pinpoint our
newsreader problem. We have had six useful replies. Thanks again.

Karl Ian Ransome                                ransome@sasa.gov.uk
              System Administrator / Network Manager: 
  SCO UNIX, OpenVMS, SunOS, Cromix, Novell, PC-NFS, Windows, DOS.
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency, Edinburgh, EH12 8NJ, Scotland.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 06 22:00:00 1995
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From: rscreager@aol.com (RSCreager)
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Subject: Industrial post-docs
Date: 7 Nov 1995 07:30:23 -0500
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We're thinking of establishing an Industrial Post-doctoral program at my
company.  I know this concept has been tried at a number of pharmaceutical
and diagnostic companies.  I would be grateful to hear from anyone who
experienced such a program and their likes, dislikes, and overall
opinions. Thanks.
Richard S. Creager, Ph.D.
Vice President, R&D
Sanofi Diagnostics Pasteur
Chaska, MN.
rscreager@aol.com
Richard S. Creager, Ph.D.

Richard S. Creager, Ph.D.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 06 22:00:00 1995
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From: odonnell@sasa.gov.uk (Kevin O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: Problem with news from SASA - please respond
Organization: Scottish Agricultural Science Agency
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This one was received OK Karl.

Apologies to everyone else for this interruption.

Kevin

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 06 22:00:00 1995
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From: ransome@sasa.gov.uk (Karl Ransome)
Subject: Problem with news from SASA - please respond
Organization: Scottish Agricultural Science Agency
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 09:54:48 GMT
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Some of my users are reporting that their news articles are not
being posted to this newsgroup. My news articles to other 
newsgroups are being posted OK and I get replies to them very
quickly from people in the UK and USA which shows the news is
appearing on news readers outwith our establishment. 

If you are able to read this then I would appreciate a few
people responding so that I can ascertain that the news to this
group is getting through. Then I can try and work out why 
Kevin O'Donnell's articles are not appearing here.

Karl Ian Ransome                                ransome@sasa.gov.uk
              System Administrator / Network Manager: 
  SCO UNIX, OpenVMS, SunOS, Cromix, Novell, PC-NFS, Windows, DOS.
Scottish Agricultural Science Agency, Edinburgh, EH12 8NJ, Scotland.

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From: Mblank@kpl.com (Martin Blankfard)
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Subject: Re: Buffer for HRP-Streptavidin
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>Can anyone recommend a storage and dilution buffer for Horse Radish 
Peroxiase-Streptavidin conjugate? I would prefer to store 
>the product in a liquid form at 4C if possible.
>

>I use 50% glycerol in RO water.
Martin Blankfard
KPL


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From: Mblank@kpl.com (Martin Blankfard)
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Subject: Re: Immunoconjugate stabilizer
Date: 7 Nov 1995 00:53:14 GMT
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In article <47d04j$1ph0@aix1.segi.ulg.ac.be>,
   Thierry Leclipteux <thierry@stat.fmv.ulg.ac.be> wrote:
>I ave problem in keeping stable monoclonal antibody-peroxidase conjugate
>at 4 °C. Is there any chemicals able to protect their activity.  I do not
>want to keep them at -20 °C in glycerol.
>Thanks

If you are going to keep them at -20 you should be able to in PBS. 50% 
glycerol will keep them from going through freeze/thaws and that seems to be 
death for most HRP conjugates in our hands.  I have also found fish Gel. at 1 
mg/ml to work well.  Best of luck

Martin Balnkfard
Senior Scientist
Kirkegaard and Perry Laboratories
2 Cessna Ct. 
Gaithersburg Md , 20879
Phone: (US) 1-800-638-3167 x141
FAX : 301 948 9442

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Nov 07 22:00:00 1995
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From: mdiadio@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Margo Diadio)
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In article <DHo3JD.IDL@sasa.gov.uk>, ransome@sasa.gov.uk (Karl Ransome) wrote:

> Some of my users are reporting that their news articles are not
> being posted to this newsgroup. My news articles to other 
> newsgroups are being posted OK and I get replies to them very
> quickly from people in the UK and USA which shows the news is
> appearing on news readers outwith our establishment. 
> 
> If you are able to read this then I would appreciate a few
> people responding so that I can ascertain that the news to this
> group is getting through. Then I can try and work out why 
> Kevin O'Donnell's articles are not appearing here.
>

Your message has been posted to this newsgroup through the U of A server
in Edmonton.
 
> Karl Ian Ransome                                ransome@sasa.gov.uk
>               System Administrator / Network Manager: 
>   SCO UNIX, OpenVMS, SunOS, Cromix, Novell, PC-NFS, Windows, DOS.
> Scottish Agricultural Science Agency, Edinburgh, EH12 8NJ, Scotland.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Nov 07 22:00:00 1995
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From: G-Shock <glenalan@mars.superlink.net>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: (no subject)
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Anyone know of any Net sources for info regarding Regulatory topics with respect to 
manufacture of medical devices (IVDs specifically).  ie cGMPs, ISO requirements, new CFR 
releases, etc...

Thanks for any info,
Glen

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Nov 07 22:00:00 1995
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Subject: Glycogen
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Dear Diagnostics Members,
                                                        Does anyone have a 
protocol,or a reference, for determination of glycogen in animal tissue 
(muscle)?

On re-reading the diagnostics charter, I note that it is primarily for 
serological or nucleic acid-based techniques. Does anyone know of newsgroups 
for  general biochemical analyses? I'd also be interested in any  for, or 
including, chemical and biosensors.

Thanks,
               Alan Hart.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Nov 07 22:00:00 1995
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From: pcomm@cismibm.univ-lyon1.fr (Pierre Commercon)
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Subject: PAPPA Antibody
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:10:22
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Hello

I need a monoclonal or polyclonal antibody to Pregnancy Associated Plasma 
Protein A. 
I know the Dako one, and I need an other one

Thanks in advance
Congratulations

Pcomm@cismibm.univ-lyon1.fr

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 08 22:00:00 1995
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From: 100416.735@COMPUSERVE.COM (The Diagnostics Club)
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Subject: CE Mark, ISO approvals and info sources
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Regarding 'G-Shocks query, the following message, which  was sent directly to
Paul Schneider in response to his query about CE Mark, is relevant.

	**********************
Re: your note about no feedback from the Medical Devices Agency. 
Possible reason is that they have moved
New address is:
Hannibal House, Elephant & Castle, London SE1 6TQ, UK
tel: +44 171 972 8000
email: mda_mail@mda.win-uk.net

European Directives contact point
tel: +44 171 972 8300, fax: +44 171 972 8112

Best of luck, but get back to us if you still hit problems
	****************

The offer of further help applied to all.
Tony Owen
Diagnostics Club Administrator
tel: +44 1908 647417, fax: +44 1908 271612


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 08 22:00:00 1995
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From: info@biotrin.ie (Conor Byrne)
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Subject: Anti- 'Bovine IgE' Abs wanted
Date: 8 Nov 1995 17:46:26 GMT
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Does anybody know the name of any manufacturers/distributors who produce
anti-'bovine IgE' monoclonal abs. I would appreciate any relevant info.

Thanks in advance,
Conor Byrne,
info@biotrin.ie
http://www.internet-eireann.ie/Biotrin/

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ESA009@ED.SAC.AC.UK ("Dr Rob Harling") wrote:

>We're using RAPD-PCR to study diversity in epiphytic Pseudomonas 
>species.  We prepare the template DNA using Flowgen's Puregene kit, 
>which is basically an SDS cell lysis, ammonium acetate protein 
>precipitation, RNAse, isopropanol DNA precipitation, then dissolve in 
>water.  The resulting DNA is of good spectrophotometric quality. 

>PCR works if we use freshly - prepared DNA, ie extracted from the 
>bacteria then run on the same day.  If we store the DNA at 4C for 
>only one week, then PCR fails, we get zilch in the lanes at any 
>concentration of template.  The DNA still looks the same after one week
>when run on a gel, ie there doesn't seem to be nuclease breakdown
>of the DNA.  Does anyone know what's happening to the DNA in storage?

What is your storage buffer (if any) and why do you store at 4C?

>Thanks
>Rob (still got my hair) Harling

>Dr Rob Harling
>SAC (Scottish Agricultural College)/
>  University of Edinburgh
>West Mains Road
>Edinburgh EH9 3JG
>Scotland, UK
>tel: +44 (0)131 535 4000
>fax: +44 (0)131 667 2601
>e mail: esa009@ed.sac.ac.uk




From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 08 22:00:00 1995
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Subject: Antibodies against Plasmodium falciparum
Date: 9 Nov 1995 14:55:07 -0800
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Diagnostics Newsgroup members:

I am seeking a supplier of polyclonal anti-Plasmodium antibodies.  I also
desire a monoclonal antibody against Plasmodium falciparum conjugated to gold
(approx. 20 nm).  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mark Hughes


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 09 22:00:00 1995
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From: Simon Eaton <S.J.Eaton@ncl.ac.uk>
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Subject: 3rd Shire Workshop
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3rd SHIRE WORKSHOP
Mitochondrial Genetics and Disease

11th December 1995
Lecture Theatre
The Sir James Spence Institute of Child Health
The Royal Victoria Infirmary
Newcastle upon Tyne  NE1 4LP
PROGRAMME

2.00 - 2.10pm Introduction and welcome, Professor A W Craft

2.10 - 2.40pm Basic mitochondrial genetics, Dr RN Lightowlers, Lecturer in
			Neurology, University of Newcastle

2.40 - 3.20pm Clinical features of mitochondrial disease, Dr AAM Morris, 
                    Institute of Child Health, University of London

3.20 - 3.40pm Tea/Coffee

3.40 - 4.10pm Mitochondrial abnormalities: Their relationship to ageing
	Dr E J Brierley, Lecturer in Geriatrics
	University of Newcastle

4.10 - 4.45pm The diagnosis and treatment of patients with mitochondrial DNA 
                   disorders
	DM Turnbull, Professor of Clinical Neuroscience, 
                   University of Newcastle

4.45 - 5.00pm Questions and close
_______________________________________________________________
Interested in coming? E-mail to Anne.Kennedy@ncl.ac.uk
_______________________________________________________________

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 09 22:00:00 1995
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From: info@biotrin.ie (Conor Byrne)
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Subject: Correction re: Anti-'bovine IgE' abs wanted
Date: 10 Nov 1995 14:25:25 GMT
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I wish to post a correction to my last posting inquiring about 
anti-'bovine IgE' monoclonal abs. I would be grateful if anyone could
give me the names/addresses of any reseachers/groups who may be using 
anti-'bovine IgE' monoclonals, not just manufacturers

Once again, thanks in advance

Conor Byrne
email: info@biotrin.ie
http://www.internet.eireann.ie/Biotrin/

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 09 22:00:00 1995
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From: ESA009@ED.SAC.AC.UK ("Dr Rob Harling")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: now you see it now you don't
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> Subject:       Re: now you see it now you don't
> To:            mx%"diagnost@net.bio.net"
           

 
> ESA009@ED.SAC.AC.UK ("Dr Rob Harling") wrote:
> 
> >We're using RAPD-PCR to study diversity in epiphytic Pseudomonas 
> >species.  We prepare the template DNA using Flowgen's Puregene kit, 
> >which is basically an SDS cell lysis, ammonium acetate protein 
> >precipitation, RNAse, isopropanol DNA precipitation, then dissolve in 
> >water.  The resulting DNA is of good spectrophotometric quality. 
> 
> >PCR works if we use freshly - prepared DNA, ie extracted from the 
> >bacteria then run on the same day.  If we store the DNA at 4C for 
> >only one week, then PCR fails, we get zilch in the lanes at any 
> >concentration of template.  The DNA still looks the same after one week
> >when run on a gel, ie there doesn't seem to be nuclease breakdown
> >of the DNA.  Does anyone know what's happening to the DNA in storage?
> 
On Thu, 09 Nov 95 17:47:16
<cubano67.ix.netcom.com@net.bio.net> asked: 

"What is your storage buffer (if any) and why do you store at 4C?"

I use water for storage (because TE might mess up my carefully 
calibrated PCR reactions) and I store at 4C because I continually 
take out samples for conducting PCR and do not wish to freeze/thaw.
Thanks for your response.

Dr Rob Harling
SAC (Scottish Agricultural College)/
  University of Edinburgh
West Mains Road
Edinburgh EH9 3JG
Scotland, UK
tel: +44 (0)131 535 4000
fax: +44 (0)131 667 2601
e mail: esa009@ed.sac.ac.uk


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 09 22:00:00 1995
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From: leigh@bangslabs.com ("Leigh")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: FWD>RE>Dyed Particles Paten
Date: 10 Nov 1995 06:14:36 -0800
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                      FWD>RE>Dyed Particles Patents                10/30/95

We know that many companies sell immunochromatographic strip tests using gold
and dyed microspheres (latex particles). Does anyone know what patents limit
their widespread use? 

I know of a Unipath patent in Europe (May, K., M.E. Prior, and I. Richards,
Immunoassays and Devices Therefor,  WO 88/08534 International Patent, 1988,
November 3.), but none in the US (apparently).
There is a Becton-Dickinson patent in the US (Campbell, R., D. Wagner, J.
O'Connell, Solid Phase Assay with Visual Readout, US 4,703,017. 1987, Oct. 27.).
These are all I know about.

Please advise any others which are pertinent.

Leigh Bangs, aka "The Particle Doctor";  leigh@bangslabs.com 
Bangs Laboratories, Inc., 979 Keystone Way, Carmel, IN 46032-2823 USA
Tel: 317-844-7176  Fax: 317-575-8801
"The Microsphere Zone"  [Web Home Page: http://www.bangslabs.com/blab] 




From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 09 22:00:00 1995
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From: mgk2r@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU ("Michael G. Kurilla")
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: now you see it now you don't
Date: 10 Nov 1995 07:30:59 -0800
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On Nov 10,  9:30am, "Dr Rob Harling" wrote:
> Subject: Re: now you see it now you don't
>         
> > Subject:       Re: now you see it now you don't
> > To:            mx%"diagnost@net.bio.net"
>            
> 
>  
> > ESA009@ED.SAC.AC.UK ("Dr Rob Harling") wrote:
> > 
> > >We're using RAPD-PCR to study diversity in epiphytic Pseudomonas 
> > >species.  We prepare the template DNA using Flowgen's Puregene kit, 
> > >which is basically an SDS cell lysis, ammonium acetate protein 
> > >precipitation, RNAse, isopropanol DNA precipitation, then dissolve in 
> > >water.  The resulting DNA is of good spectrophotometric quality. 
> > 
> > >PCR works if we use freshly - prepared DNA, ie extracted from the 
> > >bacteria then run on the same day.  If we store the DNA at 4C for 
> > >only one week, then PCR fails, we get zilch in the lanes at any 
> > >concentration of template.  The DNA still looks the same after one week
> > >when run on a gel, ie there doesn't seem to be nuclease breakdown
> > >of the DNA.  Does anyone know what's happening to the DNA in storage?
> > 
> On Thu, 09 Nov 95 17:47:16
> <cubano67.ix.netcom.com@net.bio.net> asked: 
> 
> "What is your storage buffer (if any) and why do you store at 4C?"
> 
> I use water for storage (because TE might mess up my carefully 
> calibrated PCR reactions) and I store at 4C because I continually 
> take out samples for conducting PCR and do not wish to freeze/thaw.
> Thanks for your response.

The rationale for TE as a storage buffer is straightforward. The EDTA
chelates Mg that all nucleases require. That doesn't seem to be your problem
(although it could develop over time if your go in and out of that tube
repeatedly. The Tris (pH8.0) is where DNA is most stable. Basic solution
promote strand breakage (again not your problem). Acid pH can be bad because
of protonation of some of the bases. This can lead to ring cleavage that
would certainly cause PCR headaches. 

Check the pH of your water. Even ultrapure H2O tends to be a little on the
acidic side. Why not prepare a weak storag buffer, like tris-HCl 1.0mM at
pH8.0?

Mike Kurilla


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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 09 22:00:00 1995
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Subject: Re: now you see it now you don't
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> Subject:       Re: now you see it now you don't
> To:            mx%"diagnost@net.bio.net"
           

 
> ESA009@ED.SAC.AC.UK ("Dr Rob Harling") wrote:
> 
> >We're using RAPD-PCR to study diversity in epiphytic Pseudomonas 
> >species.  We prepare the template DNA using Flowgen's Puregene kit, 
> >which is basically an SDS cell lysis, ammonium acetate protein 
> >precipitation, RNAse, isopropanol DNA precipitation, then dissolve in 
> >water.  The resulting DNA is of good spectrophotometric quality. 
> 
> >PCR works if we use freshly - prepared DNA, ie extracted from the 
> >bacteria then run on the same day.  If we store the DNA at 4C for 
> >only one week, then PCR fails, we get zilch in the lanes at any 
> >concentration of template.  The DNA still looks the same after one week
> >when run on a gel, ie there doesn't seem to be nuclease breakdown
> >of the DNA.  Does anyone know what's happening to the DNA in storage?
> 
On Thu, 09 Nov 95 17:47:16
<cubano67.ix.netcom.com@net.bio.net> asked: 

"What is your storage buffer (if any) and why do you store at 4C?"

I use water for storage (because TE might mess up my carefully 
calibrated PCR reactions) and I store at 4C because I continually 
take out samples for conducting PCR and do not wish to freeze/thaw.
Thanks for your response.

Dr Rob Harling
SAC (Scottish Agricultural College)/
  University of Edinburgh
West Mains Road
Edinburgh EH9 3JG
Scotland, UK
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Fri Nov 10 22:00:00 1995
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From: schneip@interactive.net (Paul Schneider)
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G-Shock <glenalan@mars.superlink.net> wrote:

>Anyone know of any Net sources for info regarding Regulatory topics with respect to 
>manufacture of medical devices (IVDs specifically).  ie cGMPs, ISO requirements, new CFR 
>releases, etc...

>Thanks for any info,
>Glen
Try the FDA BBS , which you can access through Fed World. I don't have
the URL handy but you should be able to get what you need through
YAHOO or some other search site.

Paul S.


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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 12 22:00:00 1995
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From: Rob Willis <rwillis@bs.monash.edu.au>
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Subject: Dariers Disease (Keratosis follicularis)
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Any information on the latest treatments for Dariers Disease 
(Keratosis follicularis) in children?

Email: rwillis@bs.monash.edu.au

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 13 22:00:00 1995
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From: angus@intergen.demon.co.uk (Angus Cameron)
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Subject: Repost of Senior Sales vacancy
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Still seeking a senior sales manager to control a business in Europe working 
to supply diagnostic and biopharmaceutical manufacturers, must have German 
speaking skills and an intimate knowledge of the businesses. Can be located in 
Germany or the UK, but preferably UK near Oxford.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 13 22:00:00 1995
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From: filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk (Steve Firth)
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Subject: Re: Candida albicans
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In article <489vh8$65n@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>,
Pete Kwasowski <bss3pk@surrey.ac.uk> wrote:

>I am looking for information on suppliers of ELISA kits for the detection of
>antibodies to Candida albicans.

Try Centocor Diagnostics (formerly Mercia Diagnostics), who have a vey good
test kit for C. albicans.

01483 505255

The company is based in Shalford, just down the road from you.

-- 
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 13 22:00:00 1995
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From: Pete Kwasowski <bss3pk@surrey.ac.uk>
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I am looking for information on suppliers of ELISA kits for the detection of
antibodies to Candida albicans. Failing that, suggestions on a source of
antigen would be useful.

Many thanks in advance,

Pete Kwasowski


Dr P Kwasowski
School Biological Sciences
University of Surrey
Guildford
Surrey
GU2 5XH
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 16 22:00:00 1995
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From: wilsonpj@eng.derby.ac.uk (Peter Wilson)
Subject: Gene Screening
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I  am looking for any information on the problems with gene screeing as I have
to do a seminare on this in two weeks so any information would be much
appreciated.  Please could you email me as I do not have acess to these
newsgroups all the time.

Thankyou inadvance
Peter Wilson
 
Wilsonpj@eng.derby.ac.uk


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 19 22:00:00 1995
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From: trpede@uta.fi (Pentti Degerstr|m)
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Subject: Loss of hair, sense of smell, and sense of taste
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HELP, PLEASE!

My sister (30 years) is going bald. She has been losing her hair for 
three 
years, and no new hair has grown back to substitute for the loss.
Her thyroid gland hormone secretion is normal.

My mother (60 years) has lost her olfaction and her threshold for 
sense of 
taste has become higher after she had a common cold. Her sense of 
smell has
been non-existent for a year now.
Her brain was scanned but no tumour was found.



What could be behind these syndromes? Is there any treatment? (Could 
laser
therapy help and what kinds of laser therapy exist?)


Any comments would be greatly appreciated.


P.D.

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 20 22:00:00 1995
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From: t-bone13@ix.netcom.com (Dan Tisone )
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Subject: New web site - Equipment for diagnostic test kits
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I would like to announce a new web site for those who are interested:

http://www.lainet.com/~biodot 
(coming soon http://www.biodot.com)

The company at this site specializes in equipment for the manufacture 
and production of rapid diagnostic, ELISA type, and assay type test 
kits.


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From: David and Gail Gall <galldg@ottawa.net>
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Subject: Re: New web site - Equipment for diagnostic test kits
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t-bone13@ix.netcom.com (Dan Tisone ) wrote:
>I would like to announce a new web site for those who are interested:
>
>http://www.lainet.com/~biodot 
>(coming soon http://www.biodot.com)
>
>The company at this site specializes in equipment for the manufacture 
>and production of rapid diagnostic, ELISA type, and assay type test 
>kits.
>


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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 22 22:00:00 1995
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From: David and Gail Gall <galldg@ottawa.net>
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Subject: Re: New web site - Equipment for diagnostic test kits
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t-bone13@ix.netcom.com (Dan Tisone ) wrote:
>I would like to announce a new web site for those who are interested:
>
>http://www.lainet.com/~biodot 
>(coming soon http://www.biodot.com)
>
>The company at this site specializes in equipment for the manufacture 
>and production of rapid diagnostic, ELISA type, and assay type test 
>kits.
>


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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sat Nov 25 22:00:00 1995
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Subject: HELP!!! CROHN'S IN THE STOMACH!!
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I NEED HELP OR ANY ADVICE...... It seems to be a puzzle that my doctors are not 
able to solve at this time.

from Mark

I am computer scientist capable of solving all sorts of problems. However to 
solve my most important problem, I feel completely helpless. Enough said..


My doctors have diagnosed me few years(3 1/2) ago with Crohns disease. For most 
of the time disease stayed in terminal ileum part of small intestine. This has 
been confirmed by bunch of medical tests and endoscopies. The symptoms that I 
used to have was loose bowel movements twice a week. A day before a major flare 
up, I used to feel exhausted,no energy or vigor. I also had difficulty 
breathing at times. I never had a bloody diarrhea.

About 1 year ago, I felt a lot of pain the middle stomach. I also had a lot of 
acidity taste in the mouth and esophagus.  Anyway, my doctors told me that they 
diagnosed crohn's ulcer in the stomach walls. However, they continue to tell me 
that it is very very minor.  They put me on Pentasa (4x 4 times a day) and 
Prilosec(1 day). I don't have that acid taste anymore. It also helped a bit 
with the lower stomach(in the small intestine area). My bowel movements are 
pretty normal.

But, I feel a lot more burning pain and sensation in upper and mid stomach 
area. Sometimes, I feel that my guts are bursting inside. The other times, I 
feel that someone is scratching my guts from inside. Help!!!!!!

Also, about once a week, I don't seem to have any energy. I am completely 
exhausted. I find myself difficulty breathing normal air.I have a lot of pain 
in the eyes as well as toes and nails.


Is there anything I could do? Could I take some other medicine. My doctors keep 
telling me that I don't need anything else. What about herbs? or vitamins(my 
vitamin tests were all normal). What I need to travel abroad to get any further 
medical treatment? Where?

Thank you very much.


 Mark 

New Jersey,USA
Please respond to this newsgroup or my private address 
us011939@interramp.com(stated also above)















mark


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	First, there is a newsgroup: alt.support.crohn's-colitis is a 
group I read regularly and might be of some help. I have CD and am 
actually just recovering from surgery (resection of the terminal ilieum). 
	Second, Crohn's in the stomach is VERY rare. How did your drs 
diagnose this? You never mentioned colonoscopy as a diagnostic tool but I 
don't know how else Crohn's of the terminal ilieum can be diagnosed. It 
needs to be biopsied to be confrimed. And that is how the stomach ulcer 
should be diagnosed. What medications were you on before the stomach pain 
appeared? I had terrible stomach pain this summer and it was a result of 
the meds that I take. I also have "significant" reflux, however, which is 
relatively common with Crohn's. 
	I would strongly recommed a second opinion. Reflux can be treated 
with a variety of meds and if it is Crohn's in the stomach, there are 
other treatments that could be considered if this is interferring with 
you everyday life. 
	Also, drop into alt.support.crohn's-colitis. Lots of information 
and lots of us with CD, UC and IBS. 
	 Good luck and let me know it turns out. Waiting for dx and 
treatment is so frustrating....I know. 

		Brenda Mayer


On Sun, 26 Nov 1995 us011939@interramp.com wrote:

> I NEED HELP OR ANY ADVICE...... It seems to be a puzzle that my doctors are not 
> able to solve at this time.
> 
> from Mark
> 
> I am computer scientist capable of solving all sorts of problems. However to 
> solve my most important problem, I feel completely helpless. Enough said..
> 
> 
> My doctors have diagnosed me few years(3 1/2) ago with Crohns disease. For most 
> of the time disease stayed in terminal ileum part of small intestine. This has 
> been confirmed by bunch of medical tests and endoscopies. The symptoms that I 
> used to have was loose bowel movements twice a week. A day before a major flare 
> up, I used to feel exhausted,no energy or vigor. I also had difficulty 
> breathing at times. I never had a bloody diarrhea.
> 
> About 1 year ago, I felt a lot of pain the middle stomach. I also had a lot of 
> acidity taste in the mouth and esophagus.  Anyway, my doctors told me that they 
> diagnosed crohn's ulcer in the stomach walls. However, they continue to tell me 
> that it is very very minor.  They put me on Pentasa (4x 4 times a day) and 
> Prilosec(1 day). I don't have that acid taste anymore. It also helped a bit 
> with the lower stomach(in the small intestine area). My bowel movements are 
> pretty normal.
> 
> But, I feel a lot more burning pain and sensation in upper and mid stomach 
> area. Sometimes, I feel that my guts are bursting inside. The other times, I 
> feel that someone is scratching my guts from inside. Help!!!!!!
> 
> Also, about once a week, I don't seem to have any energy. I am completely 
> exhausted. I find myself difficulty breathing normal air.I have a lot of pain 
> in the eyes as well as toes and nails.
> 
> 
> Is there anything I could do? Could I take some other medicine. My doctors keep 
> telling me that I don't need anything else. What about herbs? or vitamins(my 
> vitamin tests were all normal). What I need to travel abroad to get any further 
> medical treatment? Where?
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> 
>  Mark 
> 
> New Jersey,USA
> Please respond to this newsgroup or my private address 
> us011939@interramp.com(stated also above)
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 26 22:00:00 1995
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Subject: Re: HELP!!! CROHN'S IN THE STOMACH!!
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Try web server - http://qurlyjoe.bu.edu/  for information sources on
Crohn's.  God luck.
Jim Robertson, Pharm.D.

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Subject: Re: HELP!!! CROHN'S IN THE STOMACH!!
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found this article surfing a couple of days ago

========================  
      A theory that Crohn's disease may be caused by swallowing toothpa
first proposed about forty years ago, continues to surface from time to tim
 We became aware of this hypothesis when a doctor on a health news se
television mentioned it.  We learned later that he was referring to an
article which had appeared in Lancet.
<p>
        The reasoning behind the thesis is that abrasive substances found in
tooth pastes or powders, particularly silica, have produced enteric lesions
in rats and dogs given these crystalline products in food or by injection.
These experiments had been done because the strikingly increased thickn
the affected bowel wall and adjacent mesentery and lymph nodes sugges
lymphatic blockage. Similar blockage was known to occur in the lymph no
the lungs of silicosis sufferers.  It was known, also, that the lesions or
granulomas in the intestinal tracts of Crohn's patients are the same as tho
in silicosis-afflicted lungs.
<p>
        But--swallowing toothpaste?  Children, especially, do ingest it, and
perhaps everyone does, to a certain extent, in small quantities.  However,
what researchers seem not to know is there's a much larger source of sil
much more widespread.
<p>
        It's in the water.  Some occurs naturally from streams passing over
rock, some is added purposefully to reduce corrosivity.  But the largest
amount comes from fluosilicates used in modern water fluoridation progra
 This is the most dangerous source, for the fluoride part reacts with gastri
secretions to form hydrofluoric acid, the only acid able to dissolve silica.
<p>
        The combination of hydrofluoric acid and silica produces silicic
acid, highly destructive to tissues and known to be the kind which causes 
lesions in the lungs when silicon dust is inhaled. Sixty-two per cent of the
population of the United States drinks fluoridated water, most of it
containing either hydrofluosilicic acid or sodium silicofluoride.  They eat
foods and consume beverages prepared or processed with the water.  Th
would contain more concentrated amounts of the substance.  The rest of 
it from foods and beverages processed in fluoridated regions and exported
other places, even to other countries.  In addition, thirty-five nations in
total have fluoridated their water supplies.  To some extent, at least.
<p>
        Silica has a trait that makes it hazardous if it stays in the system
over time.  Protein binds to it, making abnormal lesions and growths.  This
in turn, can cause the immune system to react.  It was known in 1963 tha
antibodies were being created against unidentified antigens in regional
enteritis. Scientists today have found that antibodies are produced when
silicone breast implants leak. (Silicone, like silica, is a compound of
silicon.)  It has also been found that children with silicone tubes 
implanted
in their ears to drain fluids have developed antibodies against silicone in
some cases.
<p>
        Crohn's disease was relatively obscure--not recognized as a separa
disease entity from other inflammatory bowel problems--before the 1930's
 Water systems weren't being fluoridated then--not officially.  But
hydrofluosilicic acid, a by-product of the phosphate fertilizer industry, 
was
routinely dumped into the water before it became illegal to do so.  Phosph
fertilizer was actually first made in 1868 but it didn't come into wide 
usage
until after World War I.  That could account for the noted rise of this
intestinal disease in the 1930's.  After water fluoridation became an
accepted public health measure, hydrofluosilicic acid was often the fluorid
product of choice because it was already in solution, cheaper and easier t
use than sodium fluoride.  Apparently, no one thought of the possibility tha
the silica content could prove to be a health risk, made so by the fluoride
connection.
<p>
        The pinpointing of the major source of silica should lead to a more
scientific basis for the view that it's implicated in Crohn's disease.
 Knowing that it's not toothpaste could provide a more productive explanat
of the cause, prevention, and possible cure of this distressing condition.
<p>
        So why doesn't everyone have it, with silica being so prevalent?  It
may be genetic.  The National Crohn's and Colitis Foundation has announ
researchers have pinpointed Chromosome 6 as the "home" of gene mark
Crohn's and ulcerative colitis.  Dr. Jerome Rotter, a geneticist at
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, the leader of the team, says that about 3
billion pairs of genes are duplicated in every cell in the human body.  To
find unique genetic variations is "like looking at the Earth from a 
satellite
and trying to zero in on a particular house.  We've found the
neighborhood...Now we're conducting a block-to-block search to find the
specific markers."
<p>
        We suggest that finding them won't lead to anything useful if
scientists continue to ignore the substance to which Crohn's victims may 
genetically indisposed.  A good many genetic diseases need such "trigger
and without them wouldn't be led to serious consequences.  For Wilson's
disease, for example, it's copper; for PKU disease it's inability to handle
certain proteins in the first year of life (but avoiding them prevents
disastrous results); for Alzheimer's--though it hasn't been admitted
yet!--it's likely to be aluminum, particularly in the form of aluminum
fluoride.  The point is, preventing contact with the offending substance is
more important, in terms of a cure, than finding a particular "house" in a
particular "neighborhood" as researchers spend their time doing.
<p>
Sincerely,<br>
Frances Frech<br>
<A HREF="mailto:fransfrech@aol.com">fransfrech@aol.com</A>
<p>
<p>
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>Is there anything I could do? Could I take some other medicine. My doctors 
keep 
>telling me that I don't need anything else. What about herbs? or 
vitamins(my 
>vitamin tests were all normal). What I need to travel abroad to get any 
further 
>medical treatment? Where?
>
>Thank you very much.
>
>
> Mark 
>
>New Jersey,USA
>Please respond to this newsgroup or my private address 
>us011939@interramp.com(stated also above)
>
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Nov 26 22:00:00 1995
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From: Peter Jackman <info@biosys.zynet.co.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: gel fingerprint analysis
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:06:21 -0800
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I am pleased to announce BioSystematica's WWW site URL:

http://www.cis.plym.ac.uk/biosys/biosys.htm

providing information on gel analysis software and systems

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Nov 27 22:00:00 1995
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From: scharfs@rnisd0.dnet.roche.com (Stephen Scharf)
Subject: HLA B27 testing
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Hi Netters,
Does anyone here do any HLA-B27 testing for ankylosing spondylitis? I'm curious 
if anyone that does testing for this marker uses Antibodies and FACS or PCR. How
important is it to test for various other HLA specifities, e.g. the cross- 
reactive group (B0701, 0702, 0703, 4201, 5401, 5501, 5502, 5601, 5602)? Any help
would be most appreciated. 
     
Thanks, 
Stephen Scharf.

-- 
Stephen J. Scharf
email:sjscharf@netcom.com
or: 72070,750@Compuserve.com

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 29 22:00:00 1995
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Subject: Getting Test Results Back to Patients Faster
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Nov 29 22:00:00 1995
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Subject: Re: PCR KIT-> NO GELLS, Quantitative, Double Fidelity
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> Attention PCR USERS
> 
> I just found a great new product from Kalyx Biosciences.  AMPLISCRIPT 
> 
> allows you to detect your PCR products using an ELISA format.  

This sounds interesting.  Can you give a few more details about it? Does it involve specially labelled 
primers for example, or can plain PCR primers be used? Does it work 
on 96-well plates?

Kevin

Kevin O'Donnell
SASA
Edinburgh

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Nov 30 22:00:00 1995
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Subject: PCR lab setup
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I need information on how to setup a PCR lab as a diagnostic tool in the 
medical field. Can anyone direct me to an information site or would share 
experience with me on their own setups?  


