From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Mar 02 22:00:00 1999
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From: BIOSCI Administrator <biohelp@net.bio.net>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 3 Mar 1999 02:09:20 -0800
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
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	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
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As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
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BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
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PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
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node at computer net.bio.net:
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A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
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computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
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To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.


From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Mar 03 22:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: Peter Ahnert <Ahnert.1@osu.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Detection of Parodontosis and Periodontosis
Date: 4 Mar 1999 01:30:50 -0800
Organization: Ohio State University
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Hi,

I would like to find out how parodontosis or periodontosis are detected
these days. I am especially interested in microbilogical methods.

What do you do if you suspect your patient has parodontosis/periodontosis?
Do you send samples to a laboratory, do you purchase a kit to do it yourself? 

How early can you detect the disease with the test you are using?

Can you monitor the progress of treatment?

Please let me know any relevant information. I also would not mind if you
fax material about your tests to 614-292-6773 :) I also appreciate any
pointers to sources of relevant information.

Thanks a lot,

Peter.
======================================================
Peter Ahnert
Department of Biochemistry - The Ohio State University
484 W. 12th Ave. # 776,  Columbus,  OH 43210,  USA
Tel.: (614) 292-3319   Fax.: (614) 292-6773
E-mail: Ahnert.1@osu.edu
======================================================

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Mar 16 22:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: Beat Ludin <beat.ludin@lis.ch>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Live Microscopy Discussions
Date: 17 Mar 1999 01:54:10 -0800
Organization: Life Imaging Services
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Dear list members

I would like to draw your attention to a newly opened forum at
http://www.lis.ch. The discussion forum features topics pertaining to
the whole area of live microscopy (i.e. microscopy on living specimen)
specifically. 
As this is new, the place may look rather deserted right now. But I hope
we will soon have a lively discussing community there. So if you have a
question or a topic you always wanted to discuss, don't hesitate to post it.

BTW, in order to keep spam out, all of the groups require email-verified
registration (free). There are also some special interest groups that
are only accessible to members.

See you there,

              Beat

If you would like to found (and moderate) a new special interest group,
e.g. to discuss specific software or hardware on neutral ground, send
your application to forums@lis.ch.


LIFE IMAGING SERVICES
              - visit our new web site at www.lis.ch
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| Muehletalweg 22           fax ++41 (0)86 062 296 3160 NEW!
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Tue Mar 16 22:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: BLangrand@aol.com
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Coenzyme A measurement
Date: 17 Mar 1999 01:54:22 -0800
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I am searching for someone who has already measured CoA content in liver
tissue using the method described by Bergmeyer. Thanks in advance. Carole

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Mar 17 22:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: Nomads <thenomads@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Diabetes Diagnostic Systems Required
Date: 18 Mar 1999 06:35:29 -0800
Organization: Superonline
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Glucometers and Elite Test Strips required in bulk.

Nomads

http://members.xoom.com/busicom





From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Mar 18 22:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: Innovatek <spamhater@ibm.net>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Re: Diabetes Diagnostic Systems Required
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:48:53 -0800
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Would you be interested in ONE TOUCH strips in bulk?

Brian
======================

Nomads wrote:

> Glucometers and Elite Test Strips required in bulk.
>
> Nomads
>
> http://members.xoom.com/busicom

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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Thu Mar 18 22:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: kevin gilbride <gilbride@bu.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: South of Boston
Date: 19 Mar 1999 01:02:02 -0800
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Bench scientist with over nine years of protein biochemistry and molecular
biology experience seeks ground floor oportunity with genomics or
diagnostic lab south of Boston.
For more information email gilbride@bu.edu

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Mar 21 22:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: Stuart Harbron <s.harbron@experts.co.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Diagnostic Insight Database
Date: 22 Mar 1999 08:18:39 -0800
Organization: The Enzyme Technology Consultancy
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     To: Dr Kevin O'Donnell

   From: Dr Stuart Harbron (s.harbron@etc.uk.com)

Subject: Diagnostic Insight Database

We have made improvements to the Diagnostic Insight Database.

The Database now links to the IBM Intellectual Property Site and to
PubMed.  This means that you can get full bibliographic information
from your search results from the Diagnostic Insight Database.

This powerful combination puts even more information at your
fingertips.  Take a look at:

http://www.etc.uk.com/cgi-bin/dbman/db.cgi

============================================================

Stuart Harbron, PhD
Principal Consultant
The Enzyme Technology Consultancy
Tel: (+44) 1442 385740    Fax: (+44) 1442 384084
mailto:s.harbron@experts.co.uk
http://www.experts.co.uk

From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Wed Mar 24 22:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: "Patrick C. Brunner" <patrick.brunner@faw.admin.ch>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: glue-traps and PCR
Date: 25 Mar 1999 09:22:25 -0800
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Dear colleagues 

We use PCR-RFLP of mtDNA to successfully distinguish several thrips (=
"tiny insects") species. Our protocols work well with fresh, frozen or dry
specimens. However, some have been caught and stored on commercially
available glue traps (,tanglefoot" ?), and we have a hard time to get a
reasonable PCR product from these DNA extractions. We suspect that the glue
on the traps inhibits the PCR reaction.
We tried to remove the glue mechanically and with benzine, with little
success. Diluting the DNA is problematic too, because exctractions often
yield not more then pico-grams / ul. Has anyone similar experiences and a
solution for this problem? Any input is highly appreciated!

Sincerely,

Patrick Brunner

---------------------Dr. Patrick C. Brunner------------------

Swiss Federal Research Station     
Schloss, Lab. 4           phone:  +41 (1) 783 6331   
CH-8820 Waedenswil        fax:    +41 (1) 783 6434      
Switzerland               e-mail: patrick.brunner@faw.admin.ch

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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Mar 28 23:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: Russell Farris <tryggvi@email.msn.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: False negatives in tests for Chalmydia pneumoniae
Date: 29 Mar 1999 00:46:29 -0800
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        I have found hints that antibiotics, NSAIDS, and perhaps other
things will cause false negatives in the tests for bacterial infections, but
I haven't been able to find very much on this problem. I am particularly
interested in Chlamydia pneumoniae tests, but would be glad to receive
anything on the subject. Thanks for your attention.

Russ Farris




From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Sun Mar 28 23:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohazard1999@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Applications and Methods and http://come.to/biomedpage
Date: 29 Mar 1999 00:57:54 -0800
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From owner-diagnostics@net.bio.net Mon Mar 29 23:00:00 1999
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: Robert DiSilvestro <disilvestroxxx.1@osu.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.diagnostics
Subject: Isoprostane ELISAs
Date: 30 Mar 1999 01:05:21 -0800
Organization: The Ohio State University
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Has anyone used the ELISA kits for isoprostanes?  I have some doubts about 
specificity, but a bigger concern is just performance.  The kit I have used 
from Assay Designs worked well at first, but has been very poor in the last 
year (ie bad spike and recovery, high and variable values for control 
subjects, and poor agreement between duplicates).  Anybody have any comments?

NOTE: my real E-mail address does not contain Xs.



