From owner-embldatabank@net.bio.net Sat Sep 09 23:00:00 1995
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From: Patrick R. Jones <102570.2734@CompuServe.COM>
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I am a undergraduate student in biology.  Some day I hope to go to 
graduate school in biochemistry. My grades are good enough but I 
am afraid that this may not be enough to get in.  I am looking for 
something to set myself apart from the other students.  At this 
point I am at a loss on what to do.  I have no real resources to 
work on projects in the areas that interest me. Does anybody have 
any ideas?  I do have one useful skill.  I am a professional 
computer programmer. I don’t mean someone who has taken a FORTRAN 
class and is working as a work-study student, but a 10 year 
application programming veteran in the computing industry.  If I 
could use this skill great if not, I don’t care.  I need something 
to further my career; something good.  Please help!!!  I know that 
somebody out there knows of something I could do.

	Thank you for your time!!!
	Patrick R. Jones

-- 
<<Evolution isn’t just a good idea. Its the law!>>

From owner-embldatabank@net.bio.net Mon Sep 11 23:00:00 1995
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Patrick R. Jones  writes:
> I am a undergraduate student in biology.  Some day I hope to go to 
> graduate school in biochemistry. My grades are good enough but I 
> am afraid that this may not be enough to get in.  I am looking for 
> something to set myself apart from the other students.  At this 
> point I am at a loss on what to do.  I have no real resources to 
> work on projects in the areas that interest me. Does anybody have 
> any ideas?  I do have one useful skill.  I am a professional 
> computer programmer. I don’t mean someone who has taken a FORTRAN 
> class and is working as a work-study student, but a 10 year 
> application programming veteran in the computing industry.  If I 
> could use this skill great if not, I don’t care.  I need something 
> to further my career; something good.  Please help!!!  I know that 
> somebody out there knows of something I could do.
> 
> 	Thank you for your time!!!
> 	Patrick R. Jones
> 
> -- 
> <<Evolution isn’t just a good idea. Its the law!>>

Certainly there must be some investigator, either in your
university or at a nearby medical center, who would be only too
happy to use your skills in a for-credit research project. That
would certainly look good on your application. Another hint:
try to get to know your faculty members well enough that when
it comes time to get letters of recommendation they can write
something fairly personal, not just a form letter that says
they had you in a class.
-- 
Associate Professor (Emeritus)
University of Virginia
mgk@darwin.clas.virginia.edu

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From: nonn et al <nonn.robert@hines.va.gov>
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Grades are not enough, publish like a fiend and suck up to the big guns!


From owner-embldatabank@net.bio.net Fri Sep 15 23:00:00 1995
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From: cherbert@cco.caltech.edu (Curtis Herbert)
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In article <42vgk8$og2$8@mhafn.production.compuserve.com>, Patrick R.
Jones <102570.2734@CompuServe.COM> wrote:

> I am a undergraduate student in biology.  Some day I hope to go to 
> graduate school in biochemistry. My grades are good enough but I 
> am afraid that this may not be enough to get in.  I am looking for 
> something to set myself apart from the other students.  

snip

> 
> -- 
> <<Evolution isn’t just a good idea. Its the law!>>
Who's law?

I also urge you to try to do some undergraduate research. Make up a little
resume and hand-deliver it to some likely faculty members.  Ask them who
might be interested in you.   Also try to keep an eye open for ways to
apply your background; you have a valuable skill.  You might mention it to
some of the faculty types.  

Also, a better posting for this sort of thing might be: alt.grad-student.tenured

Curtis H.

From owner-embldatabank@net.bio.net Sat Sep 16 23:00:00 1995
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From: mes@zoo.toronto.edu (Mark Siddall)
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In article <4383k4$dcj@apollo.it.luc.edu> nonn et al <nonn.robert@hines.va.gov> writes:
>Grades are not enough, publish like a fiend and suck up to the big guns!
>


Good point, though I would add that any sucking up (or even lack thereof)
is going to make people think "Hmmm. what camp are they in...?"  and 
you will inevitably be taken on those grounds rather than for what you 
might have to say.  It's a shame, but as a young phylogeneticist, I 
assure you it's true.  If there's one thing that the majority does 
NOT respect out there... it's a firm conviction.  So don't have one...
you'll go further.
-- 
Mark E. Siddall                "I don't mind a parasite...
mes@vims.edu                    I object to a cut-rate one" 
Virginia Inst. Marine Sci.                     - Rick
Gloucester Point, VA, 23062

From owner-embldatabank@net.bio.net Thu Sep 28 23:00:00 1995
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From: gmckenzie@ivory.trentu.ca (NAME)
Subject: DNA sequence analysis via the net
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I am a 4th yr undergrad at a small Canadian Univ with a background in Mol. Bio and Genetics. Consequently I am taking a Computer Sci course thats premise is to answer an academic que. via the "net" With my background in the above i want to take a nucleic acid sequence and do: homology, phylogeny, seq. alignment and get some inferences about secondary and tertiary structure which would enable me to have an insight about possible function. I am aware of blast, fasta, Swiss-prot and phylip. I am "green" on th
i
s as is the faculty here. I am having trouble planning a logical plan of attack in regards to which sequences of programs to utilize  i.e. order of events to reach my desired goal. I have use of Unix machines and DEC workstations for molecualr graphics like Rasmol. Any info in regards to this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx G. McKenzie   GMcKenzie@Trentu.ca

